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Gun laws · Chuck Douglas

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Speaker 1: I was.
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Speaker 2: I was.
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Speaker 1: I was frivolous yesterday. I mean just because I didn't
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Speaker 1: want to be serious. But it s bits back to
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Speaker 1: serious time, because that's that's how I roll. Guns on
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Speaker 1: my mind today a couple of things that had popped
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Speaker 1: up here, one of which I'm looking at the wsyxcite
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Speaker 1: here in their headlines bombs demand action to oppose proposed
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Speaker 1: gun bills at the state House, and they had their
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Speaker 1: their rally today, which you know it's it's or just
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Speaker 1: we're not going to agree. Also another gun headline from
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Speaker 1: Senator John Hughestead backing a bill now to let officers
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Speaker 1: carry conceal carry in zones UH and school zones and
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Speaker 1: post offices. I said a note to his his representative,
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Speaker 1: the person that I talked to when I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: get him on the show for something, and I said,
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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you if I were if I
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Speaker 1: had him on the air with me right now talking
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Speaker 1: about this, my first question would be why not me
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Speaker 1: if I if I am a law abiding American citizen.
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Speaker 1: And let's say, in this constitutional carry state of Ohio,
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Speaker 1: by the way, there is an effort to put a
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Speaker 1: constitutional carry bill for the country together right now. But
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Speaker 1: under if constitutional carry is the rule of the land,
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Speaker 1: and and I as a law abiding American citizen and
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Speaker 1: willing to get whatever training you say I need, get
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Speaker 1: the license that I need, past the background check that
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Speaker 1: I need, why then would I not be legally carrying
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Speaker 1: in a in a school zone or a bar, or
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Speaker 1: a public building or whatever. Now, just as I said,
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Speaker 1: as I was talking to Mark in this past half
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Speaker 1: hour about that the bill to make killing of a
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Speaker 1: police officer a no parole, no probation crime, and I
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Speaker 1: was talking about the fact that you know, there, if
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Speaker 1: they're saying police officers' lives are not more important, then
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Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily on board with that line of thinking,
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Speaker 1: because if you kill a police officer, you'll kill anybody.
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Speaker 1: So along that same line, that same line of thought,
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Speaker 1: do I also think that a police officer is superior
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Speaker 1: when it comes to their their ability to carry and
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Speaker 1: logically reasonably lawfully use a firearm if necessary?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 1: I don't, No, I don't, And I don't know that
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Speaker 1: I would necessarily be on board with restricting something like this,
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Speaker 1: especially if they managed to pass a constitutional carry law
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Speaker 1: for the entire country. Restricting something like this to just
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Speaker 1: police officers. If I am a law abiding, trained, licensed,
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Speaker 1: background checked, vetted, hermetically sealed American citizen, why should I
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Speaker 1: not have that same right? Does that make sense? Is
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Speaker 1: that a reason? You can tell me A two one
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Speaker 1: nine and eighty six A two one do WTV because
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking this through right now, But it just seems
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Speaker 1: to me that, you know, creating that elite class in
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Speaker 1: this respect doesn't necessarily make a lot of sense. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know that i'd be I don't
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Speaker 1: know that i'd be in favor of that, while at
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Speaker 1: the same time, the bills that are working their way
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Speaker 1: through the State House right now, which would h I think,
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Speaker 1: free up a lot of the restrictions that we have
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Speaker 1: on firearms right now. I don't know that I can
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Speaker 1: jump on board with the moms. And I'm sure they're
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Speaker 1: they're good intention, they're good, but people see, people are
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Speaker 1: scared of guns. And again they continue to do this,
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Speaker 1: this this one thing. They pass laws, push for laws,
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Speaker 1: support laws, want laws that will affect law abiding citizens.
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Speaker 1: What you folks need to get through your your your hearts,
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Speaker 1: your minds, your souls, everything, is that the people who
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Speaker 1: are shooting up the streets, shooting up the school, shooting
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Speaker 1: at the school. By it's a shooting at the passing
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Speaker 1: cars are not law abiding. Your laws will not affect
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Speaker 1: them because they don't give a rats about what laws
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Speaker 1: you pass. Members of Mom's demand action and students demand action.
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Speaker 1: According to the WSYX story, met at Trinity Episcopal Church
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Speaker 1: and spoke with lawmakers about four pieces of legislation House
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Speaker 1: Bill four to fifty five, known as the Freedom to
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Speaker 1: Carry Act, House Bill one eight, the Self Defense Protection Act,
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Speaker 1: House Bill three eighty two, the Second Amendment Protection Act,
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Speaker 1: and send It Bill two seventy eight, which would allow
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Speaker 1: people to sue cities and towns over local gun control
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Speaker 1: measures brought about largely, I think because of things like Columbus,
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Speaker 1: you know, banning the thirty round magazine, but the twenty
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Speaker 1: nine round is okay, so stupid. Opponents of the proposals
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Speaker 1: the story continue You said the bills would lower the
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Speaker 1: legal carry age, expand self defense claims, and limit gun laws.
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Speaker 1: Buckeye Firearms Association said on its website the bills would
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Speaker 1: reduce firearm regulations and expand Second Amendment rights. Sponsors of
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Speaker 1: the bills for contact of comment from WSYX. No response
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Speaker 1: has been received, and I'm sorry to hear that, because
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Speaker 1: if you know, if you're going to put this out there,
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Speaker 1: if you have the guts the audacity to put this
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Speaker 1: out there, then you know, be ready to answer those questions.
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Speaker 1: Respond immediately, stand by the legislation. If you're going to
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Speaker 1: create it, promote it, try to get it past, stand
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Speaker 1: by it, and be ready to do this. This hits
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Speaker 1: the no you know, you know, as soon as that's
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Speaker 1: hits the news cycle, you're going to get phone calls.
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Speaker 1: Sit by your phone, Beth, cancel all my appointments today.
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Speaker 1: I'll be taking calls. You know it's going to happen,
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Speaker 1: So be there to do it now. I have not
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Speaker 1: read in their entirety of these bills. I can't tell
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Speaker 1: you exactly what's in there. I know I got a
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Speaker 1: lot of Second Amendment advocates and Buckeye firearms people and
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Speaker 1: so forth that listen to the show. If you're more
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Speaker 1: acquainted with them, feel free at a two to one
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Speaker 1: WTV in. But I just you know, when they passed
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Speaker 1: Concealed Carrie way back yonder, we heard, oh, it's gotta
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Speaker 1: be the wild West out there, it's still whitting. It
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Speaker 1: didn't happen, did it didn't happen? You don't hear about
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Speaker 1: people who had concealed Carrie permits mowing down kids at
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Speaker 1: the bus stop. That's some punk kid thirteen fourteen years old,
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Speaker 1: doesn't care about your laws, got himself a glock switch
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Speaker 1: and wanted to play gangster and unloaded in a dry
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Speaker 1: by at the bus stop. That's not the law abiding
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Speaker 1: licensed citizens. But those are the people that you will
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Speaker 1: affect with your laws. If anything, you as organizations, as groups,
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Speaker 1: should be pushing for more harsh, definitive, deliberate, and guaranteed
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Speaker 1: penalties to be inflicted upon people who break the laws
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Speaker 1: using a firearm. You're not going to save the world
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Speaker 1: by passing laws that affect the good guys. It's not
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Speaker 1: going to happen. It's the bad guys that commit the
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Speaker 1: bad acts. And I'm not even trying to be confrontational.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to be logical about this. Bad people do
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Speaker 1: bad things, whether it's with guns or baseball bats or
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Speaker 1: pipe bombs that they learn to build on the internet.
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Speaker 1: We're poison that they found in the garage that's supposed
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Speaker 1: to be used to kill stuff on your rosebush. Instead,
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Speaker 1: they use it to kill somebody. They'll kill anyway they
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Speaker 1: want to kill, if they want to kill. Passing a
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Speaker 1: law that says I can't drive past the school if
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Speaker 1: I have a weapon in my cart. That's just stupid,
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Speaker 1: and I say that would love. Your intentions may be good,
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Speaker 1: but your actions, your actions are just not reasonable. I
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Speaker 1: know I got people standing by. Let's try to get
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Speaker 1: a few calls in a two one nine eight eighty
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Speaker 1: six eight two one WTV and they'll start with Roy
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Speaker 1: Or on the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line.
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Speaker 2: Roy good afternoon, Thank you for taking my call. I
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Speaker 2: am very very much pro Second Amendment, and I agree
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Speaker 2: with you one thousand percent about the stupidity of gun
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Speaker 2: free zones. Somebody with a gun do you think they
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Speaker 2: care whether it's a gun free zone? But what that
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Speaker 2: does do is prevent a responsible citizen from being able
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Speaker 2: to intervene in a hostile situation.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: All that said, I do respectfully disagree about the concealed
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Speaker 2: carry permit for this reason. In the state of Ohio,
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Speaker 2: you have to have a driver's license to drive a car.
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Speaker 2: A driver's license implies that you've had some training that
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Speaker 2: you've had some background check and that you know what
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Speaker 2: you're doing, and driving a car, I think that a
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Speaker 2: gun is the same thing.
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Speaker 1: Well, hang on, right, right, Wait a minute, hang on
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Speaker 1: a second. Let me go off of what you just said. Yes,
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Speaker 1: the driver's license allows you. It shows that you can
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Speaker 1: drive a car. However, if you were to get a CDL,
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Speaker 1: it shows that you've gone above and beyond and should
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Speaker 1: be allowed to drive not only your car, but an
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Speaker 1: eighteen wheeler. And if you get the hazardous placard on
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Speaker 1: that you're able to drive that too, because you've shown
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Speaker 1: you've gone that far, you've passed that test, you've made
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Speaker 1: that that line to show I deserve this. I'm better
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Speaker 1: than just the basic driver's license. I'm saying, why not
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Speaker 1: do the same thing with gun carrying.
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Speaker 2: I hear your point, I do, but you know a
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Speaker 2: gun is a very deadly instrument. And while I am
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Speaker 2: extremely pro Second Amendment, I do believe that there should
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Speaker 2: be some fetting and not everybody should be entitled or
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Speaker 2: should be allowed to have a gun. And what I
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Speaker 2: love about the concealed carry permit, I have one. I
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Speaker 2: went through training, eight hours of training, right, and I
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Speaker 2: learned things that I didn't know which enabled which you
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Speaker 2: have enabled me to be a much more responsible gun own.
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Speaker 1: That's good. And you've kept your permit even with constitutional carry,
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Speaker 1: you have kept your permit.
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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely see, I did not.
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Speaker 1: I did not, and I'm rethinking that now, simply for
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Speaker 1: no other reason than just reciprocity. You know, if I
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Speaker 1: can take the family to Florida this summer or something
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Speaker 1: like that, the reciprocity disappears if I'm not carrying that permit.
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Speaker 1: And I wasn't even thinking about that when I let
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Speaker 1: it expire. Sure, I appreciate you, but love.
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Speaker 2: Your opinion, love your show, love your thoughts.
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for the call. I love you
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Speaker 1: for that. Eight two one nine, eight eighty six mark.
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Speaker 1: You're on six ten WTV in Hey Jack. How's it
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Speaker 1: going fine, sir? How are you?
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Speaker 3: I agree with you on pretty much everything. First Off,
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Speaker 3: on the concealed carry, I think it's a good idea
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Speaker 3: to maintain that if you had it, go back and
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Speaker 3: get it again strictly for the legal ramifications if that
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Speaker 3: event ever happens. Secondly, on the new legislation, the thing
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Speaker 3: that's most frustrating as a citizen and a voter, is
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Speaker 3: the fact that they keep trying to legislate stupidity instead
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Speaker 3: of enforcing and taking care of the crime.
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Speaker 1: Amen.
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Speaker 3: If you're right on the spot. If they would make
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Speaker 3: a gang murder an automatic death penalty violation, guess what
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Speaker 3: it would go down.
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Speaker 1: Dramatically, especially if we actually had a death penalty in
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Speaker 1: this state and not a bunch of people living off
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Speaker 1: the taxpayer dollars for four decades.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's uh. I understand the liberal side of that,
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Speaker 3: but I have to agree that at some point every
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Speaker 3: life is it's just up until it's.
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Speaker 1: Not there you go from there exactly. Mark. I appreciate you, buddy,
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Speaker 1: thank you. You know, you exit the womb and your
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Speaker 1: life is just as precious as anyone Else's what you
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Speaker 1: choose to do with the opportunity to take in air,
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Speaker 1: to grow to become an individual, a human being, what
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Speaker 1: you choose to do with that determines whether or not.
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Speaker 1: That's why I've said that before. We talked last week
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Speaker 1: about the Black Lives Matter and the flack over all
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Speaker 1: lives matter. There comes a point where, you know what,
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Speaker 1: all lives don't necessarily matter if you've chosen to use
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Speaker 1: your life to be detrimental to the people around you,
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Speaker 1: to society at large, to inflict pain and misery upon
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Speaker 1: your fellow man. If you're somebody who's out there selling
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Speaker 1: a heroin fit and al m and ms to the
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Speaker 1: kids at the elementary school, yeah I'm not real crazy
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Speaker 1: about your life. But when you're a precious baby, yeah yeah,
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Speaker 1: your life matters too,