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- 0:00All of this nasty space and the nasty time that we've been going through.
- 0:04In other words, we paid our dues, we have paid our news and
- 0:08now I feel like we are very close in the my space to being rewarded
- 0:13with some substantially iron prices at goal and all of the shares taking out,
- 0:18taking off and go what substantially are You're listening to Carrie Let's's Financial Survival Network
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- 0:42Network now more than ever ed. Welcome. You are listening to the Financial
- 0:51Survival Network of your host Cherry Lutz. As we conclude October twenty three of
- 0:58twenty three, the sector mining stocks junior minders in the face of higher gold
- 1:03prices continue to get decimated by the market. And look, if you're new
- 1:10to the sector, it's got to be one of the worst experiences you've ever
- 1:14seen. Where FORTU shouldn't just disappear literally overnight. If you've been through this,
- 1:19through multiple ups and downs, multiple bulls and bears, as my next
- 1:25guest has, then you have a somewhat different perspective. But no matter what
- 1:29your experience, when you see a market like this and you see your capital
- 1:34dissipate almost overnight, it's very difficult. Dudley, Baker's with us. Dudley,
- 1:40great to have you on your site. Common stock warrants, Well,
- 1:45maybe it's the biggest buy, an even better buy than the underlying warrants here
- 1:49at this point. Hey, if you've got a question for Dudley or myself
- 1:53or anything else, kl at Carie Lutz dot com is the place to send
- 2:00it, and please give me your thoughts. How are you faring in this
- 2:06resource bear market at least precious metals certainly, Dudley, it's great to have
- 2:10you back on so Hey, we're all kind of in the same boat here
- 2:15that sprung multiple leeks. We're all kind of sinking, some faster than others.
- 2:21What can you tell those of you out there who are really feeling kind
- 2:28of down and maybe bordering on despondent. Well, it's always good to be
- 2:34with you, Carrie, but I understand well those of us that have been
- 2:38in the sector for a long time, we get it. We don't like
- 2:43it when we've got these long bear markets and stocks, but we've been around
- 2:50long enough that we know there's another side coming, an upside that will be
- 2:55coming. The question is is it coming you know, soon enough for most
- 3:00people and uh and and a lot of younger people at least, uh you
- 3:06know, don't have the patience to uh to wait and UH for me,
- 3:10I've I've a lot of times hang on longer than than I should. But
- 3:16if we own basically some quality stocks and even even throw in some of the
- 3:23smaller speculative plays, but they're they're smaller speculative plays that are that are still
- 3:29selling for pennies, that that still have you know, assets in the ground
- 3:32and uh and they've got some good Jordan Ventcher partners. Uh and so these
- 3:39will too be be good. But you know, you're in your recent uh
- 3:45interview with the with the Rick rule and uh I think you titled it up
- 3:51Uh I'm in junior mining stocks for one thousand games. Okay, Well that's
- 3:55that's the game. That is the game, so uh and and I fully
- 4:00agree with that, and a lot of times I'll say, okay, if
- 4:03if any of those individual stocks that go up tenfold to give you one thousand
- 4:09percent. If those stocks wants to have also stock warrants that are trading,
- 4:15then you can think you're going to double a triple that one thousand percent,
- 4:18and now you end up with two to three thousand percent gainers. And those
- 4:23individual companies do have some long term launch so it's but no, this has
- 4:29been an incredible period of time. Now, what we're saying right here is
- 4:33it over say, the last two two and a half weeks, since since
- 4:39all the problems over in the Middle East. Your goal has just taken off
- 4:43like a rocket ship, and we're basically up a good uh what one hundred
- 4:47seventy five points or something in gold and just and the question for most of
- 4:53its is, well, what about the mining stocks? What the hell has
- 4:57happened? Well, you know, you look at the GDX and yeah,
- 5:00it's gone from maybe twenty six up to thirty and then it's then it's back
- 5:04down a little bit, but not the significant gains that you bought should have
- 5:11taken place by this big, big move and goal so and and no one
- 5:16here has the holy grail. You know, well, well tomorrow the mining
- 5:21stocks, you know, start going crazy and playing a pitcher and then that
- 5:26that could be. But but we've a lot of times you just don't know
- 5:32until we're further into this game as to what is going to happen. So
- 5:39you might say that this last big uh, you know, pull back and
- 5:43go down basically that eighteen hundred range and now now we're back, you know,
- 5:48bumpet on the on the two thousand again until we take out these uh
- 5:56old highs. So we were sitting here on a chart looking at at a
- 6:00triple tonkly two thousand and seventy five and uh. And so you know,
- 6:06the people that I listened to other services, et cetera, seem to think
- 6:14that the fourth attempt coming up should be easy to take out that triple top
- 6:23that's there, and then we should immediately shoot straight on up to twenty three
- 6:28twenty four hundred there that I've got in my head. Of course, that's
- 6:34that's something really, you know, if three four points up in gold is
- 6:42a monster moved. Sure. Now, you know, we've all got different
- 6:46ways that we play this, and me I've always kind of been the stock
- 6:51guide. But but you know, we know you've got a big audience.
- 6:57Some people may say, you know, I'm I'm playing the goal of futures
- 7:01market. And maybe that's the way that that they want to play it.
- 7:05And maybe there's an argument for diversification here, you know, do do different
- 7:09methodologies, et cetera. But I think you could play the futures market.
- 7:14Uh. For me, that's the higher risk than a lot of people like
- 7:17to take on. It's highly leverage. Obviously, if you're right, there's
- 7:24a lot of money to be made. But if you're wrong, you better
- 7:27you'd better be employing some stop losses or you really trouble. So it's always
- 7:32seemed kind of more conservative to me is is to buy some of the mining
- 7:40stocks and to have the basket of mining stocks. And uh, you know,
- 7:45back in the day, I mort So did a lot more. It's
- 7:48probably where you and I met is one of the mining coppers. That's probably
- 7:51in New Yorker. Yeah, and uh, you know it was so much
- 7:56fun. You would you literally interact with the virtually all newsletter writers. You
- 8:03know, you could tick everybody's brain. You walk the aisles of all the
- 8:07mining stocks that were there at any of the given shows. Uh, get
- 8:11into meet and mix and mingle with the with the management of these companies and
- 8:18uh, it really gave you a certain feel and flavor of about what we're
- 8:24doing. And so I haven't done that in a few years. I don't
- 8:28think they're quite what they used to be. We were at a really unique
- 8:33period in time. Yeah, it's back, uh, you know, bopping
- 8:37around at these different mining shows and uh, and that was really cool.
- 8:41But I think it's all all about a basket for me, a basket of
- 8:46quality mining stocks. Uh. You have to decide how much risk that you
- 8:52want to take gone. But there's a lot of good companies out there.
- 8:56I want to feel like I owner of these. I've probably got a good
- 9:01forty some different positions myself. Obviously the top ten or fifteen that is where
- 9:09more of my capital is at. But I'm looking for all of these in
- 9:15the INTERIPERI bull market to all go up the five to ten to fifteen to
- 9:20twenty times. And this is our quote payback for all of this, all
- 9:30of this nasty space and the nasty time that we've been going through. In
- 9:33other words, we paid our dues. We have paid our dues, and
- 9:37now I feel like we are very close in the my space to being rewarded
- 9:41with some substantially iron prices and goal and all of the shares taking out,
- 9:48taking off and going substantially higher. And I always say, you know,
- 9:50it's every to say you're looking at these shares. Well, that's true.
- 10:00Me. I'm a lot of time known as the warrant guys. So it's
- 10:03like, well, I'm saying you ain't about warrant so well, yeah,
- 10:05but it all starts with a given company. You don't wake up one morning
- 10:09and say, hey, I'm going to buy some stock warrants today. But
- 10:13you don't. You're not going to buy any any stock options today. Maybe
- 10:16I've had a nightmare. Who you would do it? Right? Oh?
- 10:20Yeah, yeah no, But it's it's a it's a warrant want an option
- 10:24on want and uh So I know some of the uh you know, other
- 10:31people that have uh that I've followed, have been uh this this bull market
- 10:37quote and goal has been elusive, so it's always better. One of their
- 10:41positions is continuing to buy a call options on the GVAS. Okay, well
- 10:48that's probably not a bad thing, but but yet as we go from three
- 10:52months, six months, a year, two years, you've got to keep
- 10:56buying these options. So you've just lost a lot of money as these babies
- 11:01expire on you. And so how much capital does anybody have? You know,
- 11:07they don't really address that. And even if you're sitting with a decent
- 11:11amount of capital, how much do you deploy into say options or even warrants
- 11:20for that matter. You know, you got everything in balance, but at
- 11:24least what the warrant, the stock warrants, what we're looking for is those
- 11:28that do have preferably a long life of anywhere from two to five years and
- 11:35so. And as these markets do start picking up, I think as more
- 11:41more the mining companies will start to want to raise capital at little higher prices
- 11:46prices, we will end up with more and more stock warrants that will be
- 11:50listed and available for US investors to buy. So right now there's still a
- 11:56good basket of stock warrants, data miness, so our database, we've we've
- 12:01done this for many many years now and everything's up to speed, sortable,
- 12:07builverable, just about any way you can do it. And there's I always
- 12:13say, there's great opportunities, whether it's a mining space or any other space
- 12:18that you're looking for in the US markets, biotechs or anything. Everything is,
- 12:24everything is there on our database. All right, well, hey,
- 12:28you definitely have a proprietary database. There's nothing else there quite like it.
- 12:35It's kind of a hyper leveraged way to really play this sector. You know.
- 12:43I always subscribe to the theory that every dog has its day, not
- 12:48that the entire sector is a dog, but certainly in terms of the way
- 12:52it's performed relative performance, it's a dog. Okay, let's just be honest
- 13:00with each other. It's a dog. Think even earlier this, earlier,
- 13:03this morning, maybe we got new Mind just about the hit Lows and song
- 13:09Newmont, and they're making boatloads of money. Right, Well, this is
- 13:13this is what gets the average investor. You know. It's like you really
- 13:18have to scratch your head. You say, you know, gold is this
- 13:20rad up, say of two hundred points, you know in the last two
- 13:24weeks, and new guy's going to the opposite direction. Well, we know
- 13:26we've got increased revenue coming in, So what's wrong with this picture. This
- 13:33is a psychological game here that's being played. It's it's almost like the the
- 13:39last attempt to shake everybody out of this mining sector before it really has one
- 13:45hell of a big move. And for what I'm looking for is not enough
- 13:50move that's going to last three to six months, not at all. We're
- 13:54looking we're looking for a couple of years, three years, four years where
- 13:58these little bitty up and he's they've actually got time, you know, just
- 14:03build building. I mean they're building a base now, but to have time
- 14:07to progress and uh and then the final blowoff stage, you know, three
- 14:11to four years from now would just be incredible. But but we've got to
- 14:16have these little ones will not get off the launch bed here. Uh,
- 14:20maybe maybe for the first several months. So now when we see even the
- 14:26new mounts of the world and the barracks of the world can really get off
- 14:30the launch bead. These little companies don't have much of prayer, you know,
- 14:35so it really is a dicey uh in a stretch your head situation.
- 14:41You really have to have a lot of a lot of the faith uh and
- 14:46uh in what you're doing and some of the stocks picking and uh and and
- 14:52yeah. I think those of us that have been around for a while,
- 14:56we've kind of seen this and and and are are prepared for a little more
- 15:01time if that's necessary, because we know the rewards will be there at the
- 15:07end of the day, right. But for for newer people, yeah,
- 15:11it's it's it's they they uh, well, they want to say show show
- 15:16me, you know, and maybe they didn't never stand that's reality. But
- 15:22uh, but no, I always always say, uh, you know,
- 15:24just another quote here when I was listening to your in recent interview with with
- 15:31as you call him, Marty Martin Armstrong. Uh, I forget exactly the
- 15:37context in which y'all were talking, but uh, but he's using the term
- 15:41curiosity and desire. And so you know, everybody has to have the curiosity
- 15:48and the desire. So it's like new people, I'd say in the mining
- 15:52space, you do have to do some research. You can look at some
- 15:54long term charge. You can see the cyclicality that's going on, so you
- 16:00get curious enough, and then the desire is how do you? How do
- 16:03you play this? Yeah? How do you? How do you? And
- 16:07each individual has to answer that question for themselves. Do at at a from
- 16:15a safety standpoint, from uh, the futures, from the stocks, from
- 16:21the options to the stock warrants, uh, and and with it, you
- 16:26just need time. You gotta, you've gotta if you're if you're fortunate enough,
- 16:32And many times i've been fortunate enough that when a company comes out with
- 16:36a new stock warrant that's got a five year life, I'm thinking, Wow,
- 16:40this is the holy grail because I know within this five years, UH,
- 16:45this warrant is going to have a hell of a move. And more
- 16:48often than not that that is your key to the five hundred one thousand percent
- 16:52or better. And normally if the earlier you get in when that warrant starts
- 16:59to trade, the better off. And so a lot of times I always
- 17:02say is that, uh, this is kind of why you need you need
- 17:04to be a subscriber to the service, because yeah, we're going to be
- 17:07there at day one. UH as we see you warrants coming into this space
- 17:14in the in the junior mining space and be all over the top of this.
- 17:18I am personally looking for for these opportunities myself number one to get them
- 17:23added to the database. So I've follow all the all the filings and everything,
- 17:29and because we've better in there for all of our subscribers and and me,
- 17:33I want to see them as well because I'm looking at at the personal
- 17:37opportunity, you know, to be in UH as soon as possible and for
- 17:42to increase our chance of some say there, Yeah, I just love that
- 17:47expression that already had as a curiosity. And so all in all, investors
- 17:53have to you know, come at these markets in different directions. Absolutely.
- 17:59Yeah, So I I think we're on the verge of the precious metal sector
- 18:04coming alive. Uh and uh and and if so, we know we will
- 18:11be well rewarded. I mean, didn't give us you know, if if
- 18:15this sector, if if gold continues to go up here and we do go
- 18:19up to the twenty three hundred or so, and if in pretty short order,
- 18:25yeah, the bricks of the world and the new mods will be participating
- 18:30them. Were preaching money, right, and that this is just it makes
- 18:33no sense, truly makes most Uh agreed. I think it just that they're
- 18:40probably going down a little bit just with the average stock market. And uh.
- 18:44And so I think that's the game that's being played, is they're they're
- 18:48just being sold out with the general market environment. But it's I kind of
- 18:53thought that it would be maybe related to option exploration less Friday, but I
- 18:59don't think that was the case, because they they kept going down a little
- 19:03bit early early this Uh. But no, I do believe that we're very
- 19:07close to a significant turn coming and uh again, we just offer something different
- 19:15here at Common Stock Warrants. You know I started this this oh my god,
- 19:19uh May of two thousand and five, so that's a long time ago
- 19:25and a long time ago. And don't date us please. Yeah no,
- 19:30I lots lots of baby on to one goal. Yeah, and there are
- 19:37and uh way back at that time frame. So it's it's been a fun
- 19:41ride. We for the service, and uh yeah, I'd love to have
- 19:47everybody, you know, I go back so long people going out that old
- 19:52there man, come on, no, get back to this. This this
- 19:56uh curious, curious. If people are curious about stock Warrants, just go
- 20:03to the website Common Stock Warrants. If you signed up for our free email
- 20:07list, you will be able to download a couple of publications that we've got.
- 20:14Number one is mine to start the Stock Warrant Handbook that is substantially up
- 20:19to date. But the other one is the Speculative Merits of Common Stock Warrants.
- 20:26This was a book that goes back to really nineteen forty nine. Really
- 20:33Sidney Freed, who I needed to be the grandfather of stock warrants. He
- 20:41had a publication called the RHM warrant survey way back in the nineteen fifties,
- 20:52sixties. And so what I've got, I've got his original publication, The
- 20:57Speculative merits common Stock Warns, and I've got a PDF file and it's available
- 21:04for everybody for three to down. Please send that to me, Send it
- 21:10to me. Okay, yeah, no, we'll do it. But it
- 21:12is so this is written on an old Royal typewriter. You can just see
- 21:18what, you know, it's just somebody. He just sitting there banging this
- 21:21stuff out. And it's like incredible stories, incredible charge. And here's the
- 21:26thing, nothing has changed. Let me tell you a story about Warrence.
- 21:33My mother she bought shares in Chrysler preferred shares and they came with a warrant
- 21:40back Bold days. And you know, her thing was, what is the
- 21:45government going to let Chrysler go bankrupt? And you know that was then.
- 21:49This is now. So in the meantime, am Chrysler tanked. I think
- 21:55she only had like ten thousand invested in it, not a lot of money.
- 22:00I mean it was like a dollar preferred. It was cumulative preferred.
- 22:03So it's Chrysler cut out their dividend, all right, and the preferred went
- 22:10down to like next to nothing, like a buck and a half from ten.
- 22:15I'm just giving numbers. I don't remember the exact numbers. It might
- 22:17have been a twenty dollars share. And then you know, they got the
- 22:22bail out, and then Chrysler turned around, and at the time, it
- 22:29was like, well, hey, I'm sitting on a huge profit. Now
- 22:33the stock had gone up many times, plus she got paid all of her
- 22:37she was going to be paid all of her cumulative dividends, which was as
- 22:41much as the stock. It was like a five or eight percent cumulative uh
- 22:48preferred. So what do I do? And we figured out back then,
- 22:52if you sell off these the warrants were probably traded, So you sell off
- 22:57the you so have to prefer before they pay the dividends. Then it's a
- 23:03capital gain because back then, dividends were taxed at ordinary income rates, but
- 23:08capital gains were taxed at fifteen or twenty percent. So she sold that off,
- 23:14exercised her warrants. They then went up like two or three more times.
- 23:19Sold off those warrants. It turned into a major windfall. And you
- 23:25know, obviously publicly traded warrants aren't as popular as they once were, because
- 23:30they tend to put a floor or a ceiling on the price of the stock,
- 23:36except when the stock goes parabolic, then they anticipate. So so anyway,
- 23:41that's just one example. But hey, we've got a link to Dudley's
- 23:45site. I strongly urge you to become a subscriber just like me, Dudley,
- 23:49It's always a pleasure. Thanks for coming on you bet no. Always
- 23:53good to be with Kart. Thanks for listening to carry Letz's Financial Survival Network
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