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- 0:00Speaker 1: Up on eighth six here fifty five kroc de Talk Station.
- 0:03Speaker 1: It's Monday. It's time for Money Monday, all or financials.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Brian James kind enough to.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Join the program every Monday to talk about money issues
- 0:09Speaker 1: and of course thinking about retirement. Give yourself a financial planner,
- 0:12Speaker 1: so you got your situation. At least someone beyond you
- 0:16Speaker 1: is looking out for your future and providing some thoughtful
- 0:19Speaker 1: insight into retirement. Right Brian James, Welcome back, my friend,
- 0:22Speaker 1: Happy Monday.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian.
- 0:25Speaker 3: Somebody on arms length away who maybe has seen it
- 0:28Speaker 3: once or twice before as people try to navigate that,
- 0:30Speaker 3: I would agree it's probably a good idea to have
- 0:32Speaker 3: in your corner.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Well, I'm so thankful for having had one for so
- 0:35Speaker 1: many years. Again, it's something that I don't really have
- 0:37Speaker 1: to think about. I don't want to have to focus
- 0:39Speaker 1: on my retirement. I want my investments in good hands
- 0:42Speaker 1: and I want somebody's going to go over with them regularly.
- 0:45Speaker 1: And then there's also that whole idea of someone doing
- 0:47Speaker 1: that having a fiduciary obligation to me to maximize my
- 0:51Speaker 1: return on investment. That's the key right there. That's an
- 0:55Speaker 1: important factor too. I would agree, no doubt. That's why
- 0:57Speaker 1: you've been a fee based financial planner. They owe you.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Now do I read this is inflation dropping? Brian James,
- 1:03Speaker 1: as I paid four dollars and twenty five cents for
- 1:05Speaker 1: regular gasoline yesterday.
- 1:08Speaker 3: Well, when you look at the algorithm and the calculation
- 1:11Speaker 3: that they that they look at for for to calculate
- 1:14Speaker 3: all of the CPI, yes, indeed we've had a slight
- 1:17Speaker 3: step back. So July's CPI rose about three point four
- 1:20Speaker 3: percent from a year earlier. That's down three point from
- 1:23Speaker 3: three point five percent in June. So, in other words,
- 1:26Speaker 3: June twenty five to June twenty six was up three
- 1:28Speaker 3: point five percent. July twenty five to July twenty six
- 1:31Speaker 3: was only up three point four percent. So, yes, inflation
- 1:34Speaker 3: still exists, it's just not moving at the same upward
- 1:36Speaker 3: trajectory that it that it has been. We've taken a
- 1:40Speaker 3: slight step back. Is this cause for celebration? I don't
- 1:42Speaker 3: think so. Not quite enough to say that we're we're
- 1:44Speaker 3: where we want to be. We'd prefer to be somewhere
- 1:47Speaker 3: in the two to three percent range, but that's not
- 1:49Speaker 3: where we are now.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Yeah, a little more does the slight downward tick. Those
- 1:54Speaker 1: suggest we may be on a trend going. I know
- 1:57Speaker 1: it's a big it's a one, Brian, and I know
- 2:00Speaker 1: this requires speculating on so many factors that impact inflation.
- 2:04Speaker 1: But does this suggest we're any downward trek trajectory?
- 2:07Speaker 2: Perhaps, Well, that's why.
- 2:09Speaker 3: We're talking about it, I guess, because it's what we're
- 2:11Speaker 3: all looking for, and it's definitely not. Well, the argument
- 2:14Speaker 3: we make is things definitely didn't get more expensive than
- 2:17Speaker 3: they have lately.
- 2:19Speaker 2: That's really all it is. It's a step in the
- 2:20Speaker 2: right direction.
- 2:21Speaker 3: So a little more encouraging inside this, remember we also
- 2:24Speaker 3: have that thing called core inflation that strips out food
- 2:27Speaker 3: and energy.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Some people love it, some people hate it.
- 2:29Speaker 3: But those are the most volatile things because those two
- 2:32Speaker 3: items are struck by wars and climate issues, weather problems
- 2:39Speaker 3: and all that that aren't controlled by human beings. So therefore,
- 2:42Speaker 3: if we pull those out, the stuff that is controlled
- 2:45Speaker 3: by human decisions human activity, core inflation is down to
- 2:49Speaker 3: about two and a half percent. That's the lowest we've
- 2:50Speaker 3: seen since February, So that might be the bigger headline
- 2:53Speaker 3: inside the headline. So we're still not where we want
- 2:55Speaker 3: to be. But we've at least taken a baby step
- 2:57Speaker 3: for it at both the CPI level the core inflation level.
- 3:01Speaker 1: All right, well, I it seems to me that, you know,
- 3:03Speaker 1: if you want to blame a political party or a
- 3:05Speaker 1: singular person like Donald Trump for inflation, you could probably say, okay,
- 3:09Speaker 1: war with Iran. Straight to horr Move's closure, price of
- 3:12Speaker 1: gas goes up, right because supply has been impacted, not
- 3:16Speaker 1: the quantity of available oil or even refined gasoline, but
- 3:20Speaker 1: it's just that war interrupted the flow of that. So
- 3:22Speaker 1: I get that there's going to be inflationary reality that
- 3:24Speaker 1: because of supply and demand. Supply has been interrupted by war,
- 3:27Speaker 1: as opposed to we ran out of stuff to drill
- 3:30Speaker 1: out of the ground, which would be out of someone's
- 3:33Speaker 1: hands politically. Now, the other component of this is we're
- 3:36Speaker 1: all reeling with inflation. But I have read several times
- 3:39Speaker 1: in Brian's e if you got better information than me,
- 3:41Speaker 1: I'd love to hear it. But the value of the
- 3:43Speaker 1: dollar has dropped by about a third since what twenty
- 3:46Speaker 1: or twenty nineteen or something like that because of the
- 3:48Speaker 1: I guess the printing press. Now, I don't think most
- 3:52Speaker 1: voters can appreciate the watering down of the value of
- 3:54Speaker 1: the daughter alone dollar alone creates this inflationary because your
- 3:58Speaker 1: dollar doesn't buy as much as it.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Used to, and that.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Transcends the current moment in time. I mean, you can't
- 4:06Speaker 1: say inflation is the fault of anybody, because this is
- 4:08Speaker 1: the problem with the printing press has been going on
- 4:10Speaker 1: or multiple administrations, both Republican and Democrat.
- 4:14Speaker 2: That's absolutely true.
- 4:15Speaker 3: And we have not had the will to vote for
- 4:18Speaker 3: anyone who truly will take the steps. And I'm not
- 4:21Speaker 3: taking sides on a party here. Nobody's done it.
- 4:23Speaker 2: You know.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Everybody campaigns on the on deficit reduction and we're spending
- 4:29Speaker 3: too much and all this stuff. Then the minute they
- 4:31Speaker 3: get elected, we don't do it. And the reason for
- 4:33Speaker 3: that is because I think those politicians don't believe that
- 4:36Speaker 3: Americans are willing to make the sacrifices that it would
- 4:39Speaker 3: require to spend less on certain things big. I just
- 4:43Speaker 3: feel like as soon as they get into the position
- 4:45Speaker 3: where they could pull the levers, they instantly shy away
- 4:48Speaker 3: from it because people aren't ready for the bad news
- 4:50Speaker 3: that we're required.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Therefore, it makes a.
- 4:52Speaker 3: Great headline during the campaign, but we can shove it
- 4:55Speaker 3: into the corner after we're actually in charge. And again,
- 4:57Speaker 3: this has happened for the last fifty sixty years on
- 5:00Speaker 3: both sides.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Yes it has.
- 5:01Speaker 1: And that's why I bring it up, because this is
- 5:03Speaker 1: a failure of our elected leadership, and we live in
- 5:06Speaker 1: a representative country here. They're supposed to be watching out
- 5:09Speaker 1: for the good of the order and not getting us
- 5:11Speaker 1: into a situation where, oh, look, on your list of
- 5:13Speaker 1: things to talk about, we racked our national debt up
- 5:15Speaker 1: forty trillion dollars, Because that's forty trillion dollars to spend
- 5:19Speaker 1: more than we actually took in. But we got to
- 5:21Speaker 1: have our stuff in things from federal government. So let's
- 5:23Speaker 1: keep feeding the kitty and keep churning money out and
- 5:26Speaker 1: running the printing press, ignoring the fact that we've got
- 5:29Speaker 1: now an interest to pay on that couple with the
- 5:31Speaker 1: fact that the dollar's not worth as much as it
- 5:33Speaker 1: used to be. I mean, I regularly refer to the
- 5:36Speaker 1: national debt. Brian James, is probably the biggest existential threat
- 5:39Speaker 1: we face. I don't think it's the Iranians with nukes.
- 5:41Speaker 1: I think it's us just perpetually running the printing press
- 5:44Speaker 1: and well running our currency in the ground and of
- 5:47Speaker 1: course leading us down a path where it may no
- 5:49Speaker 1: longer be the default currency for the world. There are
- 5:51Speaker 1: other currencies out there in the world that compete with
- 5:54Speaker 1: the dollar. The more and more we rack up the
- 5:56Speaker 1: debt here and have to pay on that, yeah.
- 5:59Speaker 3: There are, but I just don't see the world ready
- 6:02Speaker 3: to line up behind any of those other countries. I mean,
- 6:04Speaker 3: the next obvious one is China just on the size
- 6:07Speaker 3: of the economy alone, but really nobody trusts them. And
- 6:11Speaker 3: beyond that you've got Japan and Germany and those of
- 6:14Speaker 3: Just this is just based off of size of economy.
- 6:16Speaker 3: Anybody else who is healthier is just way too small
- 6:19Speaker 3: to handle the burden of being the world's reserve currency.
- 6:23Speaker 3: So I don't that one. I don't see changing anytime soon.
- 6:26Speaker 3: I just don't see any other country having the It's
- 6:30Speaker 3: because it goes more to the more than just the.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Strength of the currency.
- 6:34Speaker 3: It's what is the economy capable producing, how can it
- 6:37Speaker 3: handle shocks and those kinds of things. The United States
- 6:39Speaker 3: is still by far the strongest country in the world
- 6:42Speaker 3: in terms of being able to handle that kind of
- 6:44Speaker 3: those kind of ups and downs, and that a lot
- 6:46Speaker 3: of that changed in the last twenty years as we frankly,
- 6:49Speaker 3: as we discovered fracking, when we found enough oil under
- 6:51Speaker 3: our own soil, that made us able to be a
- 6:54Speaker 3: lot more independent now, so that almost brings into the
- 6:57Speaker 3: fact and why are we sticking our nose in some
- 6:58Speaker 3: of these other places because we don't need the oil.
- 7:01Speaker 3: That's not why we're fighting in Iran. That is not
- 7:04Speaker 3: the point that used to be thirty forty years ago. Yes,
- 7:07Speaker 3: we used to want to have better access to the
- 7:09Speaker 3: oil in the Middle East. Now we don't need it
- 7:10Speaker 3: so much because we figured out ways to get out
- 7:12Speaker 3: of our own ground. So you know why are we there. Well,
- 7:15Speaker 3: that's a lot more political than it is economic.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that involves, you know, trying to create better
- 7:20Speaker 1: ties with our Arab friends, but also protecting Israel from
- 7:23Speaker 1: the threats. And you know, then that takes us down
- 7:25Speaker 1: the road whether we achieve me doing that, and it's
- 7:27Speaker 1: the most complicated thing ever, probably politically in my lifetime,
- 7:30Speaker 1: Brian James. But we are I guess I appreciate what
- 7:34Speaker 1: you said. Nobody's ready to jump or throw the US
- 7:38Speaker 1: dollar under the bus because we are as bad as
- 7:40Speaker 1: we might be. Warts and all the best out there
- 7:42Speaker 1: in terms of currency and our productivity and the money
- 7:45Speaker 1: that we rate from this economy. But we're moving in
- 7:48Speaker 1: the wrong direction. And the more we dig ourselves into
- 7:52Speaker 1: this national debt hole and the more the interest paid
- 7:55Speaker 1: on that, and I guess maybe even the less functional
- 7:57Speaker 1: or economy is because they're going to have to start
- 7:59Speaker 1: charging is more income taxes to try to stave off this.
- 8:03Speaker 1: At least that's the Democrats solution to the problem is
- 8:05Speaker 1: charge more for income tax to cover the debt. But
- 8:08Speaker 1: they don't have a curb spending. So every day both parties,
- 8:11Speaker 1: including move further and further toward a less certain dollar,
- 8:15Speaker 1: our FIA currency, and a step further in the direction
- 8:19Speaker 1: where the globe might turn its back. I mean, we
- 8:21Speaker 1: may be decade down the road, but we're not doing
- 8:23Speaker 1: anything to shore it up and make it well more
- 8:26Speaker 1: reliable as the default currency.
- 8:28Speaker 3: That's my concern, and we are not saying that at
- 8:31Speaker 3: the ballot box despite the really will do these things.
- 8:36Speaker 3: We tend to believe what we're told and we don't
- 8:38Speaker 3: hold anybody to account.
- 8:40Speaker 1: All right, Well, rate height in September, we'll ask Brian
- 8:42Speaker 1: James about that and more. Second quarter earnings reports out.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Hopefully there's solid We need some good information from Brian
- 8:49Speaker 1: James this morning.
- 8:50Speaker 2: Don't go away.
- 8:50Speaker 1: We got more to talk about after these brief words.
- 8:52Speaker 4: Fifty five KRC all right.
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- 9:00Speaker 1: Brian James from all with Financia doing the money Monday
- 9:02Speaker 1: thing we do every Monday for a few segments. Brian
- 9:05Speaker 1: James pivoting over maybe a September rake kite. I guess
- 9:09Speaker 1: during the last meeting of the Fed, they kept right
- 9:10Speaker 1: steady and some one of them up, some one of
- 9:12Speaker 1: them down, and inflation obviously a concern with the Fed
- 9:15Speaker 1: giving your inflation reality report just a moment ago, slightly
- 9:20Speaker 1: down but still north to three percent. Are we expecting
- 9:23Speaker 1: a rate height in September from the Fed?
- 9:26Speaker 2: Yeah? It's interesting.
- 9:27Speaker 3: So not that long ago you and I were talking
- 9:30Speaker 3: about when might the federal reserve cutbreak? Exactly as you
- 9:33Speaker 3: were hinting at the conversation shifting to maybe something borrowers
- 9:36Speaker 3: don't want to hear, or if you're about to buy
- 9:38Speaker 3: a house or something like that, could the Fed actually
- 9:40Speaker 3: raise rates in September?
- 9:42Speaker 2: Markets seem to think there's a chance.
- 9:44Speaker 3: So the odds of a quarter point increase are about
- 9:46Speaker 3: thirty percent according to bond market activity. So that's still low, right,
- 9:52Speaker 3: that's a lot of three chance. But on the other hand,
- 9:54Speaker 3: it's not you know, a one out of one hundred
- 9:56Speaker 3: chance either, So not a forecast. Of course, we don't
- 9:59Speaker 3: know what the with the but the markets are at
- 10:01Speaker 3: least somewhat bracing themselves for a potential rate hike, and
- 10:04Speaker 3: we're going to find out. The next scheduled meeting is
- 10:06Speaker 3: September fifteen, sixteenth, and so we're going to have more
- 10:09Speaker 3: data coming out of the policymakers will have little more
- 10:12Speaker 3: information at their hands before they make that decision. But
- 10:15Speaker 3: you know, there is a decent chance of an actual
- 10:17Speaker 3: rate hike if we can't get inflation to come down
- 10:19Speaker 3: at all.
- 10:19Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I may have read this wrong, but
- 10:22Speaker 1: I thought I read just that yesterday. The day before that,
- 10:24Speaker 1: mortgage rates had ticked down a little bit. I wouldn't
- 10:28Speaker 1: expect that to happen if we're anticipating an increase in
- 10:30Speaker 1: the rate.
- 10:32Speaker 2: I think I think that speaks more to the you know,
- 10:34Speaker 2: the anticipation.
- 10:34Speaker 3: Remember it's only thirty percent chance, so there is wonder
- 10:38Speaker 3: in the market, right, some things are going nor, some
- 10:41Speaker 3: things are going south. You know, the mortgages are generally
- 10:44Speaker 3: based off of the ten year treasure, right, nothing is
- 10:46Speaker 3: that mechanical, but you can watch that and see what
- 10:50Speaker 3: you can expect out of mortgage rates. So it's not
- 10:52Speaker 3: to me that makes perfect sense that some things are
- 10:54Speaker 3: going one way some things are going to the other,
- 10:56Speaker 3: because the market simply doesn't know. And that's why we've
- 10:59Speaker 3: had kind of a bump stock market as well, because
- 11:01Speaker 3: the market truly hates not knowing. If we can't see
- 11:04Speaker 3: through the fog, then we can't predict what earnings might
- 11:07Speaker 3: look like.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Therefore the market's going to wander a bit.
- 11:10Speaker 1: I say this only half joking with Brian James. What
- 11:14Speaker 1: does polymarket have to say about interest rates one way
- 11:17Speaker 1: or another?
- 11:18Speaker 2: Well, that's a great question.
- 11:19Speaker 3: And from what I haven't done in depth research with
- 11:22Speaker 3: polymarket calls you or anything like that, but I do
- 11:24Speaker 3: know that there are depending on how you ask the question,
- 11:28Speaker 3: there's a difference between what those responses are. So yeah,
- 11:32Speaker 3: that is an interesting measure that we can all pay
- 11:33Speaker 3: attention to. Now, what does the general public think? It's
- 11:36Speaker 3: almost like, you know what Google used to be where
- 11:38Speaker 3: you could watch the you would watch what people are
- 11:40Speaker 3: searching and get an idea for what people are thinking.
- 11:43Speaker 3: That is a polymarket calls, you know, all those things. Well,
- 11:45Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of them. On the investment side,
- 11:47Speaker 3: I think it's just another form of gambling. However, it
- 11:50Speaker 3: is fascinating to watch what people are actually willing to
- 11:53Speaker 3: put their money on. It's one thing to punch a
- 11:55Speaker 3: question into Google.
- 11:55Speaker 2: It's another thing.
- 11:56Speaker 3: To open your wallet in favor of one answer or
- 11:58Speaker 3: the other that tells us what people really thinking. It
- 12:00Speaker 3: does well, and you just walked yourself into a different
- 12:03Speaker 3: conversation that I really wasn't planned on happening with you.
- 12:06Speaker 3: But since you mentioned the gambling, there was an article
- 12:09Speaker 3: I read yesterday in preparation for the show that young people,
- 12:14Speaker 3: and a pretty decent chunk of them, are now turning
- 12:18Speaker 3: to online gambling as an investment strategy for their future,
- 12:23Speaker 3: which just even saying it out loud makes me kind
- 12:25Speaker 3: of laugh at the notion. It's like betting the lottery
- 12:28Speaker 3: and hope that that's going to help your retirement savings up.
- 12:30Speaker 3: But this is actually really a concept taking money that
- 12:33Speaker 3: the otherwise might have invested in four oh one k's
- 12:36Speaker 3: or you know, Wrath four o one k's or whatever
- 12:38Speaker 3: and going over to one of the betting apps and
- 12:40Speaker 3: betting it. Yeah, And I really thinks that's part of
- 12:46Speaker 3: a generational This is just me talking, but I got
- 12:49Speaker 3: the microphone. So my opinion, and I've talked about this before,
- 12:53Speaker 3: but we made a generational shift in the seventies away
- 12:56Speaker 3: from retiring off of streams of income and instead converting
- 13:00Speaker 3: to piles of money. What I mean by that is
- 13:01Speaker 3: pensions started to go away. Congress and the IRS said,
- 13:06Speaker 3: the companies have said pensions are too expensive, so therefore
- 13:08Speaker 3: here's the four oh one k you get to invest
- 13:10Speaker 3: your own dollars. And people started to has started to
- 13:12Speaker 3: slowly shift to building a giant pile of money rather
- 13:16Speaker 3: than putting their time in and working toward a stream
- 13:18Speaker 3: of income because the government and companies pretty much took
- 13:21Speaker 3: that option away with the reduction and pensions and social
- 13:24Speaker 3: security pretty much being under endless attack. So we have
- 13:27Speaker 3: changed the mindset toward you need a big pile of
- 13:30Speaker 3: money in order to retire successfully. And I think this
- 13:34Speaker 3: the idea of gambling is for some who perceive that
- 13:37Speaker 3: I need a big pile of money. Here's the quickest
- 13:38Speaker 3: way to get there. If I simply take chances gambling
- 13:41Speaker 3: on these various sites. It's no longer about putting your
- 13:44Speaker 3: time in, putting your years in. It's now about just
- 13:46Speaker 3: get the biggest pile of money you possibly can't as
- 13:49Speaker 3: soon as possible and retire early. Obviously this doesn't work
- 13:52Speaker 3: for many people, but there are a lot of people
- 13:54Speaker 3: out there willing to try it, especially those on the
- 13:57Speaker 3: younger end of the spectrum, because they simply seen have
- 14:00Speaker 3: not seen bad stuff happen to bad people as those
- 14:03Speaker 3: of us with a few battle scars and you know,
- 14:05Speaker 3: a few decades of experience with life, I have the
- 14:07Speaker 3: benefit of.
- 14:08Speaker 1: Yeah, well I've I know personally quite a few stories
- 14:11Speaker 1: of how gambling has ruined people's lives. I mean, the
- 14:14Speaker 1: cautionary tales that I paid attention to throughout my life,
- 14:16Speaker 1: and some people just don't learn their lesson. It just
- 14:18Speaker 1: is a sad thing. And I know how easy it
- 14:21Speaker 1: is to gamble these days, and I just think that, well,
- 14:23Speaker 1: there is enough information out there how bad it is
- 14:25Speaker 1: for you, and so don't do it.
- 14:29Speaker 2: Outlawing it.
- 14:29Speaker 1: I don't know this is the answer, but that young
- 14:32Speaker 1: people think that's inappropriate, like mechanism toward retirement comfort. The
- 14:38Speaker 1: analogy could be drawn about that, like you talk about
- 14:40Speaker 1: trying to individually choose a stock or stocks and buying
- 14:45Speaker 1: and selling individual stocks. That literally is gambling too, isn't
- 14:49Speaker 1: Isn't it pretty much?
- 14:51Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 14:51Speaker 3: I mean, and that's why I don't believe in that either.
- 14:53Speaker 3: I said when I was younger, that was my form
- 14:55Speaker 3: of gambling. You know, I threw I think I probably
- 14:57Speaker 3: told you this story before too, but I threw a
- 14:58Speaker 3: thousand dollars into some internet company whose name I've forgotten,
- 15:02Speaker 3: sold it six months later for two thousand dollars, and
- 15:04Speaker 3: thought I was a genius.
- 15:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:05Speaker 3: Had I held that another couple of years, it would
- 15:07Speaker 3: have been worth a quarter million dollars. And I had
- 15:09Speaker 3: I held it a couple of years beyond that, it
- 15:10Speaker 3: would have gone through two thousand and two when it
- 15:12Speaker 3: went bankrupt. So, yes, that was gambling when I was
- 15:15Speaker 3: coming through the system in the in the late nineties.
- 15:17Speaker 3: Now it's literally pull out your phone and bet on
- 15:20Speaker 3: a politician saying this or that, or you know, a
- 15:23Speaker 3: player getting a certain type of foul or something like that.
- 15:26Speaker 3: It's basically you know where we used to say, let's
- 15:28Speaker 3: put a price or let's slap advertising on everything out there,
- 15:32Speaker 3: including the backs of bathroom stall doors. Now it's let's
- 15:34Speaker 3: put a bet on every possible binary income, binary outcome
- 15:38Speaker 3: that can possibly happen. Did this happen or did it
- 15:40Speaker 3: not happen. Let's bet twenty bucks and find out. That's
- 15:43Speaker 3: where we are now, because it's so easy.
- 15:45Speaker 1: Well, and I understand it's an appealing That's why I
- 15:47Speaker 1: asked you about Polly Market where they were on whether
- 15:49Speaker 1: or not that if I was going to jump rates
- 15:50Speaker 1: or not. It's a poll. People are always asking the
- 15:53Speaker 1: general public. Two thousand people surveyed their opinion on you know,
- 15:55Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. This is it's a huge
- 15:58Speaker 1: quantity of people that will bet or guess. So you
- 16:03Speaker 1: do you have, you know, an immediate testing of the water.
- 16:06Speaker 1: What the vests are just infinitely larger than polling sample
- 16:10Speaker 1: numbers of people believe one way or another. So I
- 16:12Speaker 1: think there is some value in getting that public perception.
- 16:15Speaker 2: There absolutely is.
- 16:16Speaker 3: And actually been realizing that you did ask me that,
- 16:18Speaker 3: and I kind of dodged it and went off on
- 16:19Speaker 3: a rant. So where polymarketing calls you both are right now,
- 16:22Speaker 3: they're about fifty to fifty on hike versus no change.
- 16:25Speaker 2: So but that what that tells me.
- 16:27Speaker 3: I think with polymarket, with those types of things you have,
- 16:30Speaker 3: I think you still have an undercurrent of people who
- 16:33Speaker 3: have a gut field that they know something unexpected is
- 16:36Speaker 3: going to happen and they want to bet on it.
- 16:37Speaker 3: So it doesn't surprise me that there's a little more likelihood.
- 16:40Speaker 3: The bond market says there's about a thirty percent chance.
- 16:43Speaker 3: Polymarket says there's about a fifty percent chance. But remember
- 16:46Speaker 3: polymarket is simply taking the poll of if they got
- 16:48Speaker 3: one hundred people betting on stuff, half of them are
- 16:50Speaker 3: betting for a rate hike. The bond market says thirty
- 16:53Speaker 3: percent of them are betting on a rate hike.
- 16:54Speaker 1: All right, that's just one more little at a point
- 16:57Speaker 1: data point you need to factor in your polymarket wage
- 17:00Speaker 1: as well.
- 17:00Speaker 2: Brian James.
- 17:01Speaker 1: Don't go away because I understand you got some second
- 17:03Speaker 1: quarter earnings reports which are coming out. I guess trickling
- 17:05Speaker 1: out perhaps a better word. We're going to go over
- 17:07Speaker 1: some of those. We come back with all our financials.
- 17:09Speaker 1: Brian James be right back after these brief words.
- 17:11Speaker 4: Fifty five the talk station, Talk station, Hey, twenty eight
- 17:17Speaker 4: fifty five KC we talk station, Brian James from all
- 17:20Speaker 4: we're financial on the phone doing our money Monday segment.
- 17:24Speaker 1: We talked about inflation, we talked about rate hike potentials.
- 17:27Speaker 1: We talked about the forty trillion dollars national debt earlier
- 17:29Speaker 1: in the segment. Now let's talk about second quarter earnings reports.
- 17:32Speaker 1: How are the businesses out there doing, Brian James.
- 17:36Speaker 2: Frankly, pretty good.
- 17:37Speaker 3: So we're getting more and more second quard to earnings
- 17:39Speaker 3: reports and exceptionally strong headlines coming out. So most s
- 17:42Speaker 3: and P five hundred companies have reported corporate profits are
- 17:45Speaker 3: on track for about thirty one percent growth year over years. WHOA,
- 17:50Speaker 3: I know, right, and that that's pretty strong. So you know,
- 17:53Speaker 3: the other tallies that show a really high share of
- 17:56Speaker 3: companies that are beating earnings expectations. A lot of this
- 17:59Speaker 3: of horse Go figure. It's coming out of technology and
- 18:02Speaker 3: AI and so forth. You know, that's a big part
- 18:04Speaker 3: of the story. But it has expanded beyond just a
- 18:07Speaker 3: handful of these megacap names. And that's good news because
- 18:10Speaker 3: at the end of the day, we need it not
- 18:12Speaker 3: to be a bubble in one area. We need other companies,
- 18:15Speaker 3: to other industries to be benefiting as well, so that
- 18:17Speaker 3: we can have a more stable market. So so far,
- 18:20Speaker 3: so good on the earnings front. And you know, we'll see,
- 18:23Speaker 3: we'll have to see what the what the remainder shows
- 18:25Speaker 3: us here over the next few a few weeks.
- 18:28Speaker 1: I think history is demonstrated, and I'm a firm believer
- 18:30Speaker 1: like so many other people economists, at least some of
- 18:32Speaker 1: the economists that you know, if you lower taxes, you
- 18:34Speaker 1: end up with more tax revenue flowing into the government.
- 18:36Speaker 1: And could we argue that these successful earning supports significant
- 18:40Speaker 1: increases If you talk about year over as you just mentioned,
- 18:43Speaker 1: that means more tax revenue going into the federal government.
- 18:46Speaker 1: So the maybe one big beautiful bills paying off in
- 18:49Speaker 1: terms of boosting business productivity and resulting in more tax revenue,
- 18:54Speaker 1: well it can be.
- 18:54Speaker 3: Yeah, Well we'll have to have to wait to see,
- 18:56Speaker 3: you know, we get through the full tax here to see,
- 18:57Speaker 3: you know, what has actually occurred there. Remember a lot
- 18:59Speaker 3: of these companies have the best tax attorneys on the
- 19:02Speaker 3: face of the earth. There a lot of the atements
- 19:04Speaker 3: and freedom to do this out there, so they will
- 19:06Speaker 3: get super creative, sometimes a lot more innovative on the
- 19:09Speaker 3: tax side than they are with product research and development.
- 19:13Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I'm sure there will be an impact,
- 19:15Speaker 3: but they're not going to simply allow their income to
- 19:18Speaker 3: hit the margins. Remember, businesses have a lot, a lot,
- 19:21Speaker 3: a lot more flexibility as to how they label their
- 19:24Speaker 3: income than your average W two employee who gets a
- 19:27Speaker 3: who gets a ten ninety nine on a W two
- 19:29Speaker 3: handed to them, with everything already pre categorized to make
- 19:32Speaker 3: any decisions anymore.
- 19:33Speaker 1: Well, and I go back to the days of Nathan
- 19:35Speaker 1: Backrack and Ed Fink and the Greased Palm Index that
- 19:38Speaker 1: they put together, and they track the amount of money
- 19:40Speaker 1: and lobbying dollars that businesses funneled into Washington, DC as
- 19:45Speaker 1: that translated into their businesses doing better financially in one
- 19:49Speaker 1: area where lobbyists pump a lot of money and is
- 19:51Speaker 1: trying to convince politicians to change the tax code to
- 19:54Speaker 1: benefit their particular business. And lord knows, that's one of
- 19:56Speaker 1: the reasons why we have such a complex tax code.
- 19:59Speaker 1: As I pointed up multiple times, Brian, those aren't loopholes,
- 20:03Speaker 1: those are intentional provisions in the tax code. You know,
- 20:06Speaker 1: this isn't an accident that that is written in such
- 20:09Speaker 1: a way some entity might take advantage of it. I'm
- 20:11Speaker 1: thoroughly convinced it's in there to do exactly that.
- 20:13Speaker 3: Brian, Oh, absolutely, as a lobbyist, get loopholes put into
- 20:17Speaker 3: the code. You know, and you were speaking of, you know,
- 20:20Speaker 3: the tax industry there into it.
- 20:22Speaker 2: The creator of Turbo tax. That's one of the biggest
- 20:25Speaker 2: lobbies that there is.
- 20:26Speaker 3: Yeah, the worst thing that can possibly happen to that
- 20:28Speaker 3: company and its ability to exist is for taxes to
- 20:32Speaker 3: get easier. They can't afford that. That's why we don't
- 20:34Speaker 3: have some of the direct file options anymore. And remember
- 20:37Speaker 3: taxes on a postcard from the first Trump campaign. Yeah,
- 20:40Speaker 3: that went away as soon as as soon as the
- 20:42Speaker 3: election happened. That's all because into it has one product,
- 20:45Speaker 3: one major product, that is and it relies on people
- 20:48Speaker 3: being scared to death of their taxes. So as long
- 20:50Speaker 3: as we let lobbying run rampant and you're not going
- 20:52Speaker 3: to get any benefits, the benefits.
- 20:54Speaker 2: All flow upward to the corporations. That's who gets the
- 20:56Speaker 2: tax cuts.
- 20:57Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just also all the independent accountants out there
- 21:00Speaker 1: that do taxes. I guess I'm kind of curious to
- 21:02Speaker 1: know if that standard minimum deduction that went up so
- 21:06Speaker 1: high and just sort of defeated the whole point of
- 21:09Speaker 1: itemizing for individual taxpayers, if that resulted in a lot
- 21:13Speaker 1: fewer jobs out there in the accounting world.
- 21:15Speaker 3: Well, well, I'll say here's my experience with that. I
- 21:19Speaker 3: don't do taxes myself. We refer to clients. We refer
- 21:22Speaker 3: clients to folks who do, and those businesses have gotten really,
- 21:25Speaker 3: really expensive because people don't want to do it anymore.
- 21:28Speaker 3: It's now there's just not a whole lot of creativity
- 21:32Speaker 3: to it's boring job.
- 21:33Speaker 2: Frankly.
- 21:33Speaker 3: People come in where there's stacks of W twos and
- 21:35Speaker 3: there's stacks of ten ninety nine, so there's no decision making.
- 21:38Speaker 3: They're simply spending all day taking this number out of
- 21:40Speaker 3: this box and typing it into that box on the
- 21:42Speaker 3: form taxes, frankly, should be done by the federal government.
- 21:46Speaker 3: They already know what it is. Anyway, rest assured if
- 21:47Speaker 3: you mess it up, they're gonna they're gonna come back
- 21:49Speaker 3: to you. So I think it ought to be prepared
- 21:51Speaker 3: and presented to us as here's what we the irs think.
- 21:54Speaker 3: You o argue with it or pay it and then
- 21:57Speaker 3: be done with it. But rather than putting the burden
- 21:59Speaker 3: on somebody to pay a couple hundred bucks for a
- 22:01Speaker 3: piece of software, or several hundred dollars sneaking toward a
- 22:04Speaker 3: thousand for those accountants who really don't particularly in short
- 22:07Speaker 3: their jobs anymore because it has just gotten so repetitive
- 22:10Speaker 3: and they just can't have much of an impact.
- 22:11Speaker 1: Well, I will address the listeners who are screaming at
- 22:13Speaker 1: the radio about the trust factor we have with the
- 22:15Speaker 1: federal government doing it. I know we're dealing with dollars
- 22:17Speaker 1: in cents reality here, so there's less less ability to
- 22:20Speaker 1: fudge the numbers. But you know, it seems to me,
- 22:22Speaker 1: Brian James, that you know, we do have a world
- 22:24Speaker 1: with into it and the ease with which we can
- 22:28Speaker 1: do our taxes by throwing numbers into that thing. But
- 22:31Speaker 1: we have artificial intelligence. Now, don't you perceive a moment
- 22:34Speaker 1: in time like tomorrow, even in terms of how quick
- 22:36Speaker 1: technology moves, that you could put your taxes into a
- 22:38Speaker 1: chat ept and would automatically do them for you at
- 22:41Speaker 1: no cost.
- 22:42Speaker 2: Brian, you can pretty much already do.
- 22:44Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 22:44Speaker 2: If you try, though, all right, you're still going to
- 22:46Speaker 2: have to have another eyeball on it.
- 22:48Speaker 3: So that's why when I don't want the government to
- 22:49Speaker 3: file my taxes for me, I want it to do
- 22:52Speaker 3: my taxes so that I can argue with the outcome
- 22:54Speaker 3: rather than me spending the time doing it and have
- 22:56Speaker 3: them argue with it.
- 22:57Speaker 1: Well, at what costs you'd shoulder the American taxpayer with
- 23:00Speaker 1: the team of IRS agents that be charged with while
- 23:03Speaker 1: crunching the numbers on our individual taxes, thus growing the
- 23:05Speaker 1: size of government, perhaps our national debt same time, Brian, maybe.
- 23:09Speaker 2: We already do it.
- 23:10Speaker 3: Remember, if you mess up your taxes, they know what
- 23:12Speaker 3: they're expecting you to say because everything is already programmed in.
- 23:15Speaker 3: So if you mess it up, within about three years,
- 23:17Speaker 3: you're gonna hear back from them. There's already computers and
- 23:19Speaker 3: robots working on it.
- 23:20Speaker 1: There you go, the elimination to reverse the order, the
- 23:22Speaker 1: elimination of IRS jobs thanks to artificial intelligence. There's something
- 23:25Speaker 1: you can ponder as you criticize artificial intelligence generally speaking,
- 23:29Speaker 1: Brian James all over the board today, But I thoroughly
- 23:32Speaker 1: enjoyed it, as I always do talking with you thanks
- 23:34Speaker 1: for stopping by as always on a Mond