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DIDDY DEFENSE: BLAME IRAN · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: The Diddy defense to keep Hitler loving Kanye away from
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  Speaker 2: the Diddy jury. This as Diddy doubles down on the
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  Speaker 2: gamble of a lifetime betting against the state and calling
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  Speaker 2: out a single defense witness to defend him in front
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  Speaker 2: of that jury. The new Diddy defense. Wait for it,
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  Speaker 2: Blame Iran. Yes, that's the Diddy defense. Blame Iran. They're
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  Speaker 2: the real threat and stay out of Didty's bedroom. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grece. This is Crime Stories. I want to
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  Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. Objection ew More freak
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  Speaker 2: takes diddyperve did.
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  Speaker 3: He is loving every second of it.
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  Speaker 1: Joining us live at the courthouse.
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  Speaker 2: Tisa Tells and investigation and star off Tasa Tales on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: She's been in the courtroom from the get go, along
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  Speaker 2: with our Sydney Sumner Crime Stories investigative reporter taysa, what
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  Speaker 2: a day.
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  Speaker 1: In the courtroom? Is it true?
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  Speaker 2: Sean Holmes has decided in his wisdom not to call
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  Speaker 2: a single defense witness.
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  Speaker 4: Not only has he decided not to call a single
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  Speaker 4: defense witness, he is now saying that his day of
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  Speaker 4: defense will be him literally reading well his attorneys reading
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  Speaker 4: text messages half heartedly.
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  Speaker 3: This has been the ultimate bait and switch. They promised us.
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  Speaker 4: Four weeks, shows and polonies, probably goats running around the courtroom,
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  Speaker 4: anything to distract, and in less than a couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 4: interestingly enough, at the.
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  Speaker 3: Jurorsic got kicked off.
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  Speaker 4: Now they don't even want to call anybody to the stand,
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  Speaker 4: not one accountant, not one employee.
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  Speaker 3: Not one anything very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Timing straight out to Eric Fattis joining US veteran try
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  Speaker 2: old lawyer, TV illegal analyst founding partner Varner Fattest, Elite Legal,
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  Speaker 2: former felonmy prosecutor Fattest. That is a big gamble now,
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  Speaker 2: I said on day one, I think you fought with
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  Speaker 2: me about this that the defense always claims, Oh, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to have four weeks a testimony, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be grueling.
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  Speaker 1: Then suddenly it's two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's two days, and in the last hours it's nothing.
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  Speaker 2: They're putting up nothing. That is a very big gamble.
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  Speaker 2: It's a gamble of a lifetime for.
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  Speaker 5: Shawn Comes, It's a bullet moove for sir. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I think a lot of people are expecting kind of
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  Speaker 5: a counter narrative from the defense in this case, it
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  Speaker 5: sounds like we're pretty much not going to hear that.
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  Speaker 5: What it looks like is the defense is contenting that, hey,
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  Speaker 5: the prosecution has the burden here. It's their job to
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  Speaker 5: put on the evidence. They have failed woefully according to
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  Speaker 5: the defense, and the defense really doesn't need to do
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  Speaker 5: anything more that they've established what they need to through
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  Speaker 5: cross examination, through high lighting some of these text messages
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  Speaker 5: that they show that they says show consent, and so
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  Speaker 5: they're going to kind of give it over to the
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  Speaker 5: jury in about a day or so.
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  Speaker 2: Eric fattis, of course, there's going to be a huge, long,
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  Speaker 2: extremely painful and boring charge conference. The charge conference occurs
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  Speaker 2: just before closing arguments, and in a charge conference, both sides,
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  Speaker 2: the state and the defense, submit jury charges to the judge.
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  Speaker 2: What are jury charges? Those are the instructions where the
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  Speaker 2: judge literally reads the law verbatim to the jury, the
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  Speaker 2: law by which they are to judge this case.
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  Speaker 1: They'll get a charge on sex trafficking.
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  Speaker 2: They'll get a charge on coercion, They'll get a charge
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  Speaker 2: on everything that Sean Comes is charged with. They'll get
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  Speaker 2: a charge on reasonable doubt, presumption of innocence. Every permutation
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  Speaker 2: of the law that can apply to this case.
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  Speaker 1: On credibility, the burden is on the state.
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  Speaker 2: They'll also get a charge fattest on the defendant's right
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  Speaker 2: to remain silent, and.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to be told if the defendant.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't testify, you cannot hold that against him. Okay, we
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  Speaker 2: all know that's coming. But the reality, Fattest, The reality
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  Speaker 2: is when the defense stands up and says, your honor,
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  Speaker 2: the defense rests in front of the jury, They're going
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  Speaker 2: to be going like, what, he's not going to take
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  Speaker 2: the stand.
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  Speaker 1: He's got nothing to say. You know they're thinking that fattest.
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  Speaker 5: Without question, that's got to be going on in these
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  Speaker 5: jurism minds. Look, they're going to get this instruction that says, hey,
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  Speaker 5: did he has a constitutional right not testify? If he
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  Speaker 5: elects to exercise that right, the jury cannot hold that
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  Speaker 5: against him. Jurors are human beings, though you don't think about.
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  Speaker 5: If a parent has two kids and there's cookies missing
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  Speaker 5: from the cookie jar, you want to hear from both kids.
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  Speaker 5: You want to hear both sides. You want to hear
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  Speaker 5: sorts of reasons and any sort of corroborative of evidence.
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  Speaker 5: That supports either side. But in a court room, it's
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  Speaker 5: just a different scenario. And Diddy is not going to testify.
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  Speaker 5: It would be perless for him to do that. And
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  Speaker 5: so will these jurors be able to follow that instruction
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  Speaker 5: and not somehow will hold that against it. He's saying, Hey,
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  Speaker 5: I want to hear from that guy. I want to
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  Speaker 5: hear his story.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what they're going to think in
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  Speaker 2: their heads. If he's telling the truth, why doesn't he
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  Speaker 2: take the stand?
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  Speaker 1: What does he have to fear? Now?
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the state cannot argue that to the jury.
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  Speaker 2: That would be reversible error. Any comment or allusion to
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  Speaker 2: him invoking his right to remain.
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  Speaker 1: Silent is reversible error. If the state.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't, now, the defense will be able to argue. Now, remember, jury,
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  Speaker 2: you absolutely cannot hold it against him that he didn't testify.
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  Speaker 2: He has no burden and he didn't need to testify.
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  Speaker 2: You know why, because the state didn't prove their case.
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  Speaker 2: That is what they're going to be argue. Put money
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  Speaker 2: on it. Go ahead and make book.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Tisa Tales joining me outside the courthouse. You can find
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  Speaker 2: her at Tasa tails on YouTube. Tisa of course, the
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  Speaker 2: defendant doesn't have to testify, and the jury's going to
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  Speaker 2: hear that injury instructions. But what about all these other people?
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  Speaker 2: What about Christina Korum? Why didn't she come through for
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  Speaker 2: the defense? If Koram has nothing to hide, why didn't
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  Speaker 2: she come on for showing comes? Why didn't Jana She
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't come in for the state. So where are all
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  Speaker 2: of these other witnesses that have been part of this scenario?
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  Speaker 1: Where are they? Exactly? See, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: Did he still act like he's controlling everything and he
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  Speaker 4: can snap his fingers and make us deny reality?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we all know form watching Mattlocke and everything else
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  Speaker 3: that he does not have to testify. But to your point,
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  Speaker 3: where is everyone else?
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  Speaker 4: When you look at as a real life human woman,
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  Speaker 4: it looks weird and it's going to look whird to
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  Speaker 4: the jury that there is not one employee, not one investigator,
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  Speaker 4: not one freak off worker, one entertainer, not anyone for
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  Speaker 4: walking next to is going to come on the stand,
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  Speaker 4: and not one uncharged co conspirator KK that is going
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  Speaker 4: to come on the stand and say, hey, let me
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  Speaker 4: tell you what it is. And you've got to look
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  Speaker 4: at it through the jury's point of view, because we're
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  Speaker 4: getting the same view that the jury is.
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  Speaker 3: They were promised in the opening argument.
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  Speaker 4: That they were going to prove they had a tentative
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  Speaker 4: end date, so they're thinking somewhere between July fourth July eighteenth.
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  Speaker 4: They are waiting for Diddy to put on his defense.
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  Speaker 4: Now imagine this, though. You just see your coworker get dismissed.
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  Speaker 4: They don't know why, they just said we no longer
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  Speaker 4: need you, and they see a shuffling, and then all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden, Diddy's team comes out and stands up
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  Speaker 4: and says.
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  Speaker 1: And we rest our case.
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  Speaker 4: It looks odd, it looks weird, and I think, and
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  Speaker 4: most people in the courtroom think it's not going to
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  Speaker 4: play the way all these legal analysis think it is.
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  Speaker 4: We are real life humans, and you gotta think, where
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  Speaker 4: is your defense?
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  Speaker 3: Keep quiet, but where is your defense?
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  Speaker 4: Just bring us one sex worker, the punisher, the planar,
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  Speaker 4: whatever you want to call them.
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  Speaker 1: Bring us one sex worker that.
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  Speaker 4: Can say it was consensual and they enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: They cannot.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's a big mistake, and a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people in the courtroom think so too.
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  Speaker 2: An Tasa Tailles, what about friends, friends of Cassie Ventura,
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  Speaker 2: friends of Mia not her real name, friends of Jane
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  Speaker 2: not her real name, to say, oh, this is total bs.
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  Speaker 2: She never complained about.
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  Speaker 1: The free costs. In fact, she never even mentioned them.
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  Speaker 2: You know why they're not bringing them because they don't exist.
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  Speaker 2: But if the jury gets back there and thinks this
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  Speaker 2: through the way we're thinking it through, they'll think, well,
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  Speaker 2: wait a minute, don't any of the alleged victims have
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  Speaker 2: friends that the victims confide in.
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  Speaker 1: Why didn't they come on? I don't get it.
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  Speaker 2: Say they're going to go back there, I think, and
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  Speaker 2: they're going to reason through the fact that the defense
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  Speaker 2: did not bring one single person on. Let me go
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  Speaker 2: back to Eric Fattus joining me veteran trial lawyer. While
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  Speaker 2: the state cannot comment on the defendant's right to remain silent,
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  Speaker 2: if the defense has alluded to other witnesses, okay, if
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  Speaker 2: they've said, well, none of her friends state that she
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  Speaker 2: was harmed, or she was coerced, or she was drugged.
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  Speaker 2: If the defense said that at any point in the trial,
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  Speaker 2: or something akin to that, the state can comment on
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  Speaker 2: the defense's failure to produce those witnesses. They can't say
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  Speaker 2: it about the defendant not taking the stand, but they
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  Speaker 2: can comment on any witness the defense has alluded to
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  Speaker 2: that the defense did not bring in front of the jury.
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  Speaker 2: That might happen fattest fancy shockingly.
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  Speaker 5: I think we agree on that. I think generally speaking,
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  Speaker 5: there can't be burden shifting, so they got to be
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  Speaker 5: careful about that. But the defense has the same subpoena
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  Speaker 5: power that the prosecution has. So the defense, like you said,
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  Speaker 5: could have subpoenaed bad entertainment folks who if they had
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  Speaker 5: these witnesses would get up there and say, hey, I
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  Speaker 5: wasn't aware of any freak offs. I didn't pay for this,
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  Speaker 5: The business didn't pay for this. That they could have
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  Speaker 5: gotten attendees of these hotel parties who said, hey, everything
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  Speaker 5: appeared consensual to me, and no one was saying no,
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  Speaker 5: we're not hearing from any of those witnesses. And I
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  Speaker 5: think it's probably fair game for the prosecution to say, hey,
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  Speaker 5: defense told you about witness X, Y and Z, who
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  Speaker 5: was going to come up here? Where are those folks?
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  Speaker 6: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us are now psycho analyst out
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  Speaker 2: of the LA jurisdiction, author of deal Breaker. You can
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  Speaker 2: find her on peacock and online at doctor Bethany Marshall
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  Speaker 2: dot com. I know, I get it that the jury
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  Speaker 2: is going to be told and it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: hammered in in the defense closing argument that Shawn did
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  Speaker 2: not have to take the stand and there was no
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  Speaker 2: need for him to take the stand because the state
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  Speaker 2: failed improving its case. That's going to be the argument.
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  Speaker 2: But you want to tell me, Bethany, you know people
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  Speaker 2: better than anybody.
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  Speaker 1: They're not going to talk about why.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't he take the stand, And then somebody in the
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  Speaker 2: jury deliberation room is going to go, you can't talk
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  Speaker 2: about that, you can't think.
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  Speaker 1: About it, and the other one will say, yeah, okay, you're.
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  Speaker 2: Right, let's not talk about the fact that he didn't
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  Speaker 2: take the stand.
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  Speaker 7: He didn't take the stand. Not only that, Nancy, in
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  Speaker 7: a way he has taken the stand, not personally he
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  Speaker 7: invoked his right to remain silent, but that those jurors
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  Speaker 7: have heard p Diddy's voice, they have heard your my
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  Speaker 7: crack pipe, they have heard where are you? They have
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  Speaker 7: seen the text, they have heard the text written out loud.
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  Speaker 7: So unless he comes in with a better kinder gentler voice.
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  Speaker 7: That is what they were left with. You know, there
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  Speaker 7: was one interaction that just came out where he called
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  Speaker 7: Cowboys for Angel and they said, you know, you owe
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  Speaker 7: us another six hundred dollars and he said, well, the
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  Speaker 7: guy didn't even perform. And then she said, well, they're
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  Speaker 7: not there to perform the worker for a Cowboys for Angels.
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  Speaker 7: They're there too. You're paying for their time, not their erection,
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  Speaker 7: basically is what she was saying. And then he steps
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  Speaker 7: in and says, okay, be nice. I found that interaction
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  Speaker 7: very interesting because it told me how quickly he becomes
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  Speaker 7: aggressive with people when he doesn't get his way. She
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  Speaker 7: was being perfectly nice. She was just explaining that he
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  Speaker 7: was paying for the sex workers time, but he began
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  Speaker 7: to turn on her. I think that's the kind of
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  Speaker 7: voice that's going to be in the jurors head. Resoundingly.
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  Speaker 7: Who talks like that? Nobody really Well, P Diddy, well.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, you're right speaking of that. Take a listen
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  Speaker 1: to this. The court.
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  Speaker 8: Here's texts were Shawn Combs haggles with Bridget from Cowboys
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  Speaker 8: for Angels over escore prices. Bridget informs Combs that he
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  Speaker 8: still has an outstanding six hundred dollars balance, to which
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  Speaker 8: Combs replies, Lol, he couldn't even perform. Bridget reminds Colmbs
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  Speaker 8: he's paying for the man's time, and Colmb's retorts that
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  Speaker 8: she should talk nice to him since he's a longtime customer.
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  Speaker 8: In another exchange, Colmbs tells Bridget to stop raising my
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  Speaker 8: rate because he is a long timer. Bridget says it
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  Speaker 8: isn't up to her, but the escort, adding that the
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  Speaker 8: best guys have high rates.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me, but did I just hear Sean Combs aka
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  Speaker 2: Itty Bitty Diddy whining that the sex worker couldn't perform?
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  Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong, But Tisa tells, I got
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  Speaker 2: to circle back to doctor Bethany's allegation and she's right
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  Speaker 2: that we in a way hear Shawn Combe's voice through
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  Speaker 2: all of his ridiculous texts. This one included what is
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  Speaker 2: wrong with rich people?
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  Speaker 3: Here?
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  Speaker 1: He is committing a crime.
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  Speaker 2: He is ordering up a sex worker like he's ordering
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  Speaker 2: a pepperoni pizza from Papa John's. Okay, he's ordering up
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  Speaker 2: a sex worker.
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  Speaker 1: And he's one about how much they're charging him for
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  Speaker 1: a maal sex worker and.
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  Speaker 2: Cash this He even has an unpaid balance.
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  Speaker 1: What is wrong with rich people?
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  Speaker 2: He's a billionaire and he can't pay his six hundred
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  Speaker 2: dollars ballance to a sex worker, which, hello.
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  Speaker 1: Is illegal.
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  Speaker 2: And here we've got him on text haggling with the
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  Speaker 2: woman about the thief for the sex worker and the irony.
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  Speaker 2: The insult to the irony is he accuses the sex
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  Speaker 2: worker of not being able to perform.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if it has anything to do with him.
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  Speaker 2: Dragging Cassie Ventira out in the middle of the freak
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  Speaker 2: off and beating her and then sending her back in
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  Speaker 2: to perform correctly. But woa whoaoa whoa eddy beady Diddy,
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  Speaker 2: the one sitting over there, button naked, wearing a burka
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  Speaker 2: over his face, talking on the phone and trying to masturbate.
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  Speaker 1: He says the sex worker can't be for him perform.
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  Speaker 1: Did I just hear that?
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  Speaker 3: You just heard that? And that was one of the
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  Speaker 3: most shocking things we heard in court.
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  Speaker 4: When you talk about these billionaires, I literally said, I thought,
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  Speaker 4: being part of a billionars that praved.
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  Speaker 3: Harm had some perps.
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  Speaker 4: He started the conversation off by accusing them of raising rates.
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  Speaker 4: She literally had the screenship a picture of the rates
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  Speaker 4: to let her know I'm trying to be even and
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  Speaker 4: even after that, he then tried to short six hundred.
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  Speaker 3: We heard about these sex workers being flown on Spirit Airlines.
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  Speaker 3: Are you insane? Spirit Airlines paying for their own ubers?
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  Speaker 1: This man was beyond che Ponder up, Tasa Towels.
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  Speaker 2: Why are you acting like Spirit Airlines is because I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I've flown on Spirit Airlines before. They tried to charge
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  Speaker 2: me for a cup, not a bottle, a cup of water.
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  Speaker 1: I swear I wonder if.
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  Speaker 2: I had to pay to go to the bathroom, and
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  Speaker 2: I decided I would just hold it. I can't remember
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  Speaker 2: if you had to pay to go to the bathroom.
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  Speaker 1: So TSA.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned seemingly outraged that he flew these sex workers
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  Speaker 2: on Spirit Airlines, But the irony, the other irony, is
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  Speaker 2: that he has a sixty million dollar private jet that
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  Speaker 2: he is renting out for tens of thousands.
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  Speaker 1: Of dollars per flight, and the.
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  Speaker 2: Guests have no idea they need one of these before
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  Speaker 2: they sit down on Diddie's jet, Because you know, there's
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  Speaker 2: no way he can resist being a member of the.
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  Speaker 1: Mile High Club.
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  Speaker 2: That's not going to happen, and he's bringing in I
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  Speaker 2: think since he was arrested over four million dollars revenue
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  Speaker 2: from renting out. Oh there you go his private jet.
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  Speaker 2: So what were you saying about flying everyone on spirit?
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  Speaker 4: The fact that he flew them on spirit the most
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  Speaker 4: low budget. They were in charge of their own taxis
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  Speaker 4: and charge of their own ubers. They literally were paying
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  Speaker 4: money out.
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  Speaker 3: Of their pockets for the presence of being with them.
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  Speaker 4: And get this, he actually had a running tab that
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  Speaker 4: they would have to He's after him afterwards, begging for
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  Speaker 4: reimbursement of any type even services. Again, it was shocking
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  Speaker 4: that a billionaire, But when it comes down to it,
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  Speaker 4: there is something about a cosmic justice that his own
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  Speaker 4: cheapness of not handling this directly is the reason why
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  Speaker 4: the Feds had this little breadth from trail of who
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  Speaker 4: did what, because the receipts and the reimbursements again did
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  Speaker 4: he was notoriously cheap.
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  Speaker 3: With its time, with its love. And now it seems like.
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  Speaker 4: It is all coming down but a lot of shocking things.
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  Speaker 2: We are alive at the Monahan Federal Courthouse as we
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  Speaker 2: are learning Israel Shawkhin's not taking the stand and ringing
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  Speaker 2: not a single.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Witness and his defense.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: But I think there's one person that's willing to testify
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: for Shawn Comms.
• 17:51
  Speaker 9: Recent reports indicate that Christian Colmbs is working on new
• 17:54
  Speaker 9: music with rapper Kanye West, but for Shawn Combe's sake,
• 17:58
  Speaker 9: hopefully the projects are not for Ye's upcoming album Cook.
• 18:03
  Speaker 9: The rapper released the album's featured single, Hail Hitler, which
• 18:07
  Speaker 9: includes a long sample of a Hitler speech, just for
• 18:10
  Speaker 9: every music platform to immediately take it down. Several other
• 18:14
  Speaker 9: tracks are in the works for Cook, including gas Chambers,
• 18:18
  Speaker 9: World War III, and Hitler.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Yee and Jesus.
• 18:22
  Speaker 9: While Ye is set to perform at a music festival
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: in Slovakia and July, protesters have started a petition to
• 18:28
  Speaker 9: prevent the performance.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Tasa Tales joining me at the Monahan Federal Courthouse. That's
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: one person that would be willing to testify for Shan
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: comes Kanye, and he's got time. He's not going to
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: sang his Hitler song Until July.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Kanye was to testify, but like what everything else did,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: he said, it didn't come to fruition. And let me
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: tell you, they actually put him on the witness list.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: They actually even put him on the family list that
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: come sit in court. Again, this underlies the fact that
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: the defense did not know that they were not going
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: to put any witnesses on till the last minute.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: And Nancy, I hear you. You might be able to
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: explain away the whole fit amendment. But the one thing
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I think that the normal.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Person would say when you are being faced with sex
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: trafficking and going to jail for the rest of your life,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: the fact that you cannot bring one person either Kanye's
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: crazy salt. You cannot bring one friend to Cassie. You
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: cannot even bring one sex worker. How powerful to have
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: the sex worker that was in the room when Cassie
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: was dragged back to get on the stand and say hey, look,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: It only sends one message to the jury. You can't
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: mount a defense because there is nobody that is willing
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: to stand up against penalty of perjury and speak one.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Good word about you. Again, I get what.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: The legal eagles are saying, and Nancy have a good point,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: but I am certain this is not going to play well.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: To the jury.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: And like you said, the jury is going to be
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: shocked when they sit there. Not even Kanye, who.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Said he was ready and willing.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: To testify and do what he could to protect Diddy
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: is willing to get the defense even thinks.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: That's a bad idea. Again, they are running.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Scared crime stories with Nancy Grace.
• 20:22
  Speaker 10: Within an hour of West's Super Bowl ad airing on TV.
• 20:25
  Speaker 10: The only item available in his shop is a twenty
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: dollars short sleeved white T shirt with a swastika on it.
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: The shirt is named HHO one. Many believe the letters
• 20:36
  Speaker 10: stand for Hyle Hitler. Critics and fans alike are absolutely
• 20:40
  Speaker 10: horrified shopify. The site's host suspends Yeezy's account within twenty
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: four hours. The site now reading this shop is not available.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: That's just what you don't want as a Hitler loving
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: wackadoodle like Kanye. Maybe'll even bring his naked wife Biancasen Sorrianan.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Here's his idea of a good idea. Tisa tales.
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: I spent like all the money put a commercial.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: On these new teeth once again. I had to shoot
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: it on the iPhone.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Go to easy dot com.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: So Tisa tales. Uh oh. By the way, that's from
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: the official Yeasy page.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Kanye is still threatening to come into the courtroom like
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: a stink bomb. And sit behind Sean Combs during closing arguments,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: or at some point he was all angry he couldn't
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: be put into the regular courtroom and had to sit
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: an overflow a few days ago. But I imagine he's going
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: to make up for all that with a grand entrance.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Any sign of Kanye there.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Is zero sign, zero security. Listen, with friends like Kanye,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: you don't need enemies.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: And he's welcome to come because.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Unlike unlike weeks before, did He's side is empty. Mama
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Comes hasn't even shown up yet, so there is plenty
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: of space.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Again. I'm not much for conspiracies, but.
• 22:05
  Speaker 11: You have to wonder it is comany even on Didny's side,
• 22:08
  Speaker 11: And if this is the best and the brightest that
• 22:11
  Speaker 11: you can get to stand there and help rebuild your
• 22:14
  Speaker 11: integrity to the jury, Yeah, I see why Diddy is
• 22:17
  Speaker 11: not even having one witness testify if this is the
• 22:21
  Speaker 11: only person he can get Tasa Tales.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: In the last hours, more photographic exhibits by the state
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: have been entered before the jury. Let's take a look
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: at them, and you can tell us exactly the significance
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: of the photos.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Tasa Tales. Here we have Sean combs.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: At the beach. What did that have to do with anything?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Why did the state introduce that.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Because this was supposed to be Hilm at Turps, I
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: believe where he kept tricking Jane to come.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: She begged you to love me, come out.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Companies are the women. He said, you know what, baby,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: don't worry. I'm going to make a special trip for
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: the two of us. We're going to your dream location.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: I'm taking you to Turks and it's just going to
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: be the two of us and we're going to reconnect.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: And our little bunny bunny Rabbis said, you don't meet it.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: He said, baby, yes, I do. Just get on that plane.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: She was so excited that were text messages says finally
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: just me and you.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: It was supposed to be a romantic knight.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: What is the significance of this because they also showed
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: the text messages that in the background, he was coordinating
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: with their favorite little sex worker to actually show up,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: unbeknownst to Jane and Ambusher. Once you had taken all
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: those narcotics and was loosey goosey, and that is how
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: he by fraud got her to do a freak golf
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: and they're showing in the days that yes you were
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: at Turks, Yes you transported those prostitution prostitutes, not over
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: state lines, but even over international And this is another
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: thing of how.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: They have Diddy.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: It seems like dead to rights, so dead to rights again,
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: keep beating a dead horse, but so dead to writs
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: that not one person will come and sit on that
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: stand to defend his.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Antics speaking of that ill fated trip to Turks. And
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember if this is the one Linn
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Shaw joining me, founder executive director Lyn's Warriors, committed to
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: ending sex trafficking and sex.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Exploitation of women and girls.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Do you remember the beach trip where two of the
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: alleged victims paddle board into a storm rather than come
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: back to the shore because they could see Sean comes pacing.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Back and forth on the shore like a tiger.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Right, And now we see those photos Linshaw of him
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: chillaxon on the beach. But we know what happened after that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: The women were so afraid the two of them chost
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: a paddle board into a tropical storm rather than come
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: back with him waiting on the shore.
• 24:57
  Speaker 12: Triple d dirty Diddy, degenerate. Now we learned Nickel and diamond.
• 25:01
  Speaker 12: It we have to add to the list of his names. Listen,
• 25:04
  Speaker 12: this is force fraud, coersion equals sexual servitude. Women that
• 25:10
  Speaker 12: would rather be out in the ocean in a storm
• 25:13
  Speaker 12: than come and save their lives. Women running away. We
• 25:16
  Speaker 12: see Cassie, you know, without her shoes on, running in
• 25:19
  Speaker 12: a hallway. I pray, you know, I have a dream
• 25:21
  Speaker 12: all the time that he does take the stand, because
• 25:24
  Speaker 12: that would be the end of this dirty ditty and
• 25:26
  Speaker 12: the end of talking about him. But you know what,
• 25:29
  Speaker 12: here's what's happening. In my opinion, I think this is
• 25:32
  Speaker 12: the best thing that's happening because, you know what, we
• 25:35
  Speaker 12: don't have to see his face. But let's get back
• 25:37
  Speaker 12: to you know who does want to see his face?
• 25:38
  Speaker 12: Because I get a lot of messages, a lot of victims, survivors,
• 25:42
  Speaker 12: not even of ditties that have been sexually exploited. They
• 25:46
  Speaker 12: want to know why isn't he taking the stand? They
• 25:49
  Speaker 12: want to know where where is anybody to stand up
• 25:51
  Speaker 12: for him? Because there is nobody. They tell me to
• 25:53
  Speaker 12: stand up for him. So, you know what, this guy,
• 25:56
  Speaker 12: if this isn't a case of sex trafficking over state
• 25:59
  Speaker 12: line International, I don't know what is because this is
• 26:03
  Speaker 12: a clear definition. Let me repeat myself of sexual servitude,
• 26:07
  Speaker 12: fraudulent ways to get people to attend parties or to
• 26:11
  Speaker 12: come the little bunny as Tisa calls her. You know,
• 26:13
  Speaker 12: on this romantic trip, he used fraud. So he is
• 26:16
  Speaker 12: going down and you know what he is going down,
• 26:19
  Speaker 12: and we will all be standing there waiting and clapping
• 26:22
  Speaker 12: our hands.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Shawnkhme's caught licking his lips, rubbing his hands together.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: This was the all Star Kobe Bryant, Shaq Shakill O'Neil
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: dream Team Shack Attack playoff.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: This is what he wrote. These are his trial notes.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: We are live at the Monhan Federal Courthouse where the
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: end of the trial seemingly is in sight.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: But first of.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: All, we've got our miss on some of the official
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: documents and photos exhibits internet into evidence by the state.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Let's take a look at what we obtained.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Here.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: You see Shawn cohmb's getting yet another beauty treatment.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Okay eight. The jury is.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Drinking this in and now we've got a video the
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: jury has just gotten.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Let's take a look at.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: That is that Sean comes Sidney Sumner Crime Story's investigative
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: reporter with a rolex on.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I think that's what that is. I don't think it's
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: a fake.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: And he's sitting in the back seat of a luxury
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: suv wearing diamond earrings and a dope rope.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Is that what I just saw?
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: The jury's going to see that, well, Nancy, that sure
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: sounds like Sean Colmes.
• 27:35
  Speaker 13: This man doesn't do anything without style, without being in
• 27:40
  Speaker 13: the most lux clothes that he can be in. This
• 27:44
  Speaker 13: man knows what top shelf's quality is and he flaunts
• 27:47
  Speaker 13: it on a regular basis.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: But yet it's so bizarre Dr Bethany Marshall that he
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: haggles with people over saving money. We've heard about how
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: he wants free tickets to basketball games, front seat on
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: the court, that he wants special perks when he travels not.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: In his private plane. That he wants free.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Clothing, free tickets to Fashion Week, free everything, reduce prices
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: for illegal sex workers. Yet there he is all laid
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: up in a luxury suv wearing two huge diamond earrings.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you that ain't cubit Zirconia. Okay, A
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: big dope rope made of gold around is. And I
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: think that was a Rolex watch. Yet he's haggling with
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: everybody else.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: And you know, Nancy, Also, if you roll that tape again,
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: he looks high to me, he doesn't look like he's sober.
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: And all those complaints about sex workers not being able
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: to perform.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Well, he wants them to perform ya, thank you. Yep.
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: How are the sex workers supposed to keep an direction
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: for three days? I mean really, So back to not
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: wanting to pay for things.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Hold it, wait a minute, doctor Bethany, is he's smoking
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: a blunt? Hold on, let me see. He wastes till
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: the camera pans away before he puts it to his mouth,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: which I'm pretty sure is him avoiding getting caught smoking
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: a joint.
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: He's showing off his orthodontics too. I mean, look, he
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: just opens his mouth ever so slightly so you can
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: see all those beautiful veneers. So, Nancy, in terms of
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: not wanting to pay for anything, that's called entitlement, which
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: is one of the criteria for narcissism and sociopathy. It's
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: the expectation of reward without achievement. Wanted the best table
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: in the restaurant. You've never been to the restaurant before.
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: Or wanting your girlfriend to come to Turks and Caicos,
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: but you're lying to her about the fact there's going
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: to be a vacation. He wanted something for nothing. And
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: these poor girls Mia, Jane Cassie, they were trolled online
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: for only being in it for the money. When you
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: hear this comment about not wanting to pay a six
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: hundred dollars tab for.
• 29:59
  Speaker 12: A sex worker. That's how he treated them. Whatever he
• 30:03
  Speaker 12: gave them was pennies on the dollar.
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: Okay, So they got one piece of jewelry that was
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: nothing compared to all the hardship that they endured.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Joining me.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Brian Fitzgibbons direct Operations USPA Nationwide Security. He leads a
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: team of investigators that work all over the world. You
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: can find him at Uspasecurity dot com. Okay, I want
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: you to brace yourself. Okay, Brian Fitzgibbons. The new defense
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: is blame Iran? Why blame Iran? The defense is going
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: to argue that the prosecutors should be focusing on the
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: real threat, and that is Iran and not sticking their
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: noses into Sean Combs's bedroom.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: That's the defense.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: They are going to argue that and closing statements.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, as soon as Iran and Israel got into
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: a conflict and.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: The US waited in all the defense attorneys are like
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: gnashing their teeth and twitching their tails.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: How can we use the war to Danny's benefit? What
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: about it?
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: Fitzgibbons, I just about fell out of my chair when
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: I read that Nancy about Iran. And we're in the
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: six week of this trial. The defense is opportunistically taking
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: this twelve day conflict between Iran and Israel to hopefully
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: confuse the jury. I guess you know, you've had six
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: weeks of shocking witness testimony, six weeks of lurid video,
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: and they're trying to distract the jury with this Iran thing, bottom.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Line crime stories with Nancy Grace. You know what's interesting?
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: So many things are interesting, Ryan Fitzgibbons. And I'm not
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: blaming the lawyers of the defense lawyers. Although you make
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: a choice of what kind of law you want to practice,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: you don't have to defend guilty people.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Right, There's a million other things.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: You can do, good things you can do with your
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: law degree. These lawyers are good. I know for a
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: fact that Steele is a great lawyer. I know for
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: a fact Tinny Gergos is a great lawyer. She learned
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: at the feet of her father, Mark Geergos in a
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: lot of cases. But this whole Iran suggestion, think about it.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Remember at the get Go mis.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Gibbons that the sex worker came in, he didn't know
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: who he was working for, and he looked over and
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: saw a mail completely naked from here down, but wearing
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: a burka, a burka from here up. I can't wait
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: for the defense to blame Iran and say, hey, prosecutors,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: you need to get out of Diddy's bedroom and focus
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: on a real threat for homeland security, and that would
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: be Iran.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: When there is their client dressed up in a burka.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And that brings me to another.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Point for the prosecution, since they didn't ask me. In Iran,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: women are treated the way Shawn Combs allegedly treated these
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: victims every day, beaten, degraded, humiliated, forced to live by
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: the man's rules, and then the man is shot when
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the woman is a quote grateful and one of seawan
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Combe's missives, he said, every other woman would be so.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Happy to be in your shoes. Who's he talking to?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Oh? The woman with a fat lip and the plastic
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: surgery for the cut over her eye.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, go on.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Bring up Iran year Agos, bring it up steal and
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: just see what the state fires back at you. What
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: about that fitzgibbons Iran my rear end.
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're making no attempt to rehabilitate, you know, witnesses
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: that have been up there rehabilitate Diddy's image, and they're
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: going to distract with Iran. You know, maybe that's a
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: place that Diddy would fit right in at if this
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: trial works out for him, maybe he can move there.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Free coughs King Night, Hotel Night, Wild King Night. She
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: was hot and bothered, licking his lips, gross, rubbing his
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: hands together. Ew And just be clear when we're talking
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: about licking his lips and rubbing his hands together.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: That was watching the free cough video of his the.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Second love of his life, the first love of his
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: life being kim Porter, the second one being Cassie Ventura
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: being forced to have sex with three male sex workers
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: and licking the lips, rubbing the hands together.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: And demanding extra time to watch the video from the judge.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Not a good look, that said.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: That's what we were just talking about and speaking of
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: a good look. Now, while he is haggling over bills
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: that he owes with overde balances and forcing his love
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: objects to fly cut rate airlines, let's take a look
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: at what Diddy's doing in his spare time. Wow, Okay,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: the full on a beauty treatment. That's from Ditty's official instagram.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I take at Sidney Sumner. This is not behind bars
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: at the NDC, is it?
• 35:34
  Speaker 12: Absolutely not?
• 35:36
  Speaker 14: Diddy would not be receiving this kind of treatment at
• 35:39
  Speaker 14: the MDC, which is apparently on his last legs and
• 35:43
  Speaker 14: not a great place to be housed. But Nancy, this
• 35:46
  Speaker 14: was back for a birthday I believe almost ten years ago,
• 35:50
  Speaker 14: and Combs posted a series of photos bringing his followers
• 35:55
  Speaker 14: into everything that he does to prepare for a special
• 35:59
  Speaker 14: event Sidney.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, Obviously I've had no effect on
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Sydney Sumner at all because Lynn Shaw I believe she
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: just referred to a free cough as a special event.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: It's special, all right, special to the prosecutors that have
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: charged in with sex trafficking.
• 36:18
  Speaker 12: Special event? What are we talking about? What have we
• 36:21
  Speaker 12: seen video evidence of? I mean special event?
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 36:26
  Speaker 12: I'm falling out of my chair. I really am, I
• 36:28
  Speaker 12: can't contain myself. This is sex trafficking, this is I'm
• 36:31
  Speaker 12: going to go back. I am a broken record. Nancy
• 36:33
  Speaker 12: force broad coersion upon women, and I'm going to even
• 36:38
  Speaker 12: maintain some men. And I'm going to throw into the
• 36:40
  Speaker 12: mix today that you know, we don't even use the
• 36:42
  Speaker 12: term A lot of us in this, you know, working
• 36:45
  Speaker 12: in the sex trade against it. We don't use sex
• 36:48
  Speaker 12: worker because we don't believe sex is work, work is
• 36:50
  Speaker 12: not sex. Because we have so many studies upwards of
• 36:53
  Speaker 12: ninety seven percent that tell us those people in the
• 36:56
  Speaker 12: sex trade, including strippers, including these sex workers from cowboy angels,
• 37:01
  Speaker 12: angel cowboys, wherever they're coming from, that they were forced
• 37:04
  Speaker 12: into this sex trade. So again I'm going to go
• 37:07
  Speaker 12: back to I don't know, we're watching videos of him.
• 37:09
  Speaker 12: I see three or four women pampering him. You know what,
• 37:12
  Speaker 12: I wish all the women who were abused right we're
• 37:15
  Speaker 12: getting that kind of pampering treatment. I wish everybody would
• 37:18
  Speaker 12: talk more about the victims and survivors of some kind
• 37:21
  Speaker 12: of monster, this triple D monster that we've had to
• 37:23
  Speaker 12: endure for the last now seven weeks and multiple months.
• 37:27
  Speaker 12: And you know what, he's got to go down because
• 37:29
  Speaker 12: I can't field any more phone calls, text messages, emails
• 37:32
  Speaker 12: from women begging me, what's going to happen? Is he
• 37:35
  Speaker 12: going to be held responsible? Because you know what, there's
• 37:37
  Speaker 12: a lot of dirty ditties out there, so we got
• 37:39
  Speaker 12: to see one of them being held accountable, and he's
• 37:43
  Speaker 12: got to go down. And I hope we hear about
• 37:45
  Speaker 12: this by next week.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Eric Fattus joining me, I've a try a lawyer, founding
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: partner of Varner Fattest Elite Legal. Eric, I've been thinking
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: a lot about the defense decision not to put their
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: own client on the stand, that was a given at
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: the get go, but not bringing any defense witnesses at
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: all in the defense of Shawn Combs, that's a big,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: big gamble, Eric Fattus, But I've been thinking about the
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: reasoning Fattest think about who could they bring on? Anyone
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: that was a witness to the so called free coughs
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: would likely have to testify that they were paid sex workers,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: or that the women were beaten at some point or
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: they were drugged.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Who else could.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Come on good character? Once the defense brings on good
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: character of Shawn Combs, the steak can then bring on
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: bad character.
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  Speaker 1: And what I'm talking about fattest.
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  Speaker 2: Is those dozens of women, dozens and dozens, there's a total.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Free number for them, Eric Fattus to call that.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Are filing civil suits claiming they were drugged and raped
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: at free coughs. So who are going to bring in
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: somebody that was at a freak caff that could backfire
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: on cross examination or a good character witness can't do
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: that either, So the defense's hands are really tied.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Who can they bring on, Eric Nancy?
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  Speaker 5: The defense does have several options. I suppose they could
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: bring on other affiliates, a bad boy who would get
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: up there, presumably and say, hey, look, bad boy never
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: paid for any of these freak offs. There was never
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: anything criminal of which I was aware. There was never
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: anything that rose to the level of sex trafficking, and
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: that everything looked consensual. If they had such witnesses, those
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: would be really valuable to bring up and put onto
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: the stand. The fact that they're not calling any such
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: witnesses does kind of raise the specter of, you know,
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: is there anyone from bad boy who could actually get
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: up there and truthfully say that.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: We are headed to a verdict watt here at Crime Stories, fatus.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever did this, but I
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: would always stand by and the courtroom, waiting, waiting to
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: hear the zzz buzzer that would go off in the
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: courtroom when the jury would rely like that they had
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: a verdict. It's going to be excruciating waiting for this
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: jury to come back guilty, not guilty, hung or split.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, give me your best bet.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I just handled a homicide case and the jury
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: was out for about a day. I was biting my
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: fingernails the whole time. Mine was a complete not guilty.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: But in this case, you know, I think there is
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: probably substantial evidence of the interstate transportation for prostitution that
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: might be guilty. That being said, that's the least serious
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: charge here. I think the jury could conclude that Bad
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: Boy was not a criminal enterprise. They could conclude that
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: these freak offs were consensual, and if they do, that
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: is a huge black eye to the government. Even if
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: they are wins on the least serious charge. Who cares
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: Dinny's proba you get time, zert n saw.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Where would that leave the victims of this and every
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: other sex trafficking case?
• 41:08
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Well, here, Nancy, it leaves them with never coming forward.
• 41:11
  Speaker 12: We hear this time and time again. We saw with
• 41:14
  Speaker 12: the Epstein case. Why should I come forward? Why should
• 41:17
  Speaker 12: I upbrout my life? Why should I subject my family
• 41:19
  Speaker 12: to it? Why should I subject myself to embarrassment? This
• 41:23
  Speaker 12: case has to stick in one way, shape or form.
• 41:27
  Speaker 12: We have so much proof here. In my opinion, again,
• 41:30
  Speaker 12: this goes to what we're working with at the Warriors,
• 41:32
  Speaker 12: NonStop educating the justice system about something called forced servitude. Again,
• 41:37
  Speaker 12: it is a description of human trafficking equals sex trafficking.
• 41:41
  Speaker 12: And we see these women beaten, We see Cassie. I
• 41:44
  Speaker 12: am praying that this jury, no matter what goes down
• 41:47
  Speaker 12: when they're in that room, because people are visual, no
• 41:50
  Speaker 12: matter what. They may not even understand legal stuff or whatever,
• 41:53
  Speaker 12: but they're visual. They will remain. They will that video
• 41:57
  Speaker 12: will remain in their brains of her being kicked, dragged
• 42:00
  Speaker 12: running away barefoot down a hallway and he keeps kicking
• 42:03
  Speaker 12: her and she's just on the floor, not even moving,
• 42:06
  Speaker 12: and the women out in the ocean and they didn't
• 42:08
  Speaker 12: come in to say we're afraid of him. He's menacing.
• 42:10
  Speaker 12: He's there on the beach, pacing back and forth. I
• 42:12
  Speaker 12: am praying that that's what sticks in their minds and
• 42:15
  Speaker 12: they do something again. People are visual, and we have
• 42:18
  Speaker 12: to think of all of this case. We're not talking
• 42:20
  Speaker 12: enough about victims and survivors, even overall of sex trafficking,
• 42:25
  Speaker 12: of labor trafficking, of human trafficking. This case is all
• 42:29
  Speaker 12: that put together in one. So I'm just going to
• 42:31
  Speaker 12: pray here because I have to be the strong one,
• 42:34
  Speaker 12: the warrior for all these victims and survivors of sexual
• 42:37
  Speaker 12: exploitation out there.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: As we wait for the verdict watch.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: To commence, we remember an American hero, Deputy share Bradley Reckling,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Oakland County Sheriffs, just thirty years old, shot dead in
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: the line of duty, served nine years and leaves behind
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: his wife Jack, and there are four little children. American
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: hero Deputy Sheriff Bradley Reckling. Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend.