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NFL Week 8 PREDICTIONS: Seahawks-Bears, Lions-Vikings + DeForest Buckner & Quenton Nelson Trades · The Richard Sherman Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the.
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  Speaker 2: I just hope he brings out Soulja Boy, man. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I hope.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 3: If he brings out Soulja Boy, I'm done. If I'm there,
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  Speaker 3: I'm still cutting the TV off. I'm going in the
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  Speaker 3: suites and turning TVs off. Welcome back to the Richard
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  Speaker 3: Sherman podcast, and it's our week eight preview. We got
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  Speaker 3: to start off with our power rankings. Of course, Mitchell,
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  Speaker 3: not a lot has changed for me. I'm going with
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  Speaker 3: the exact same power rankings as I had last week.
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  Speaker 1: What about you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to sit down and think long and
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  Speaker 2: hard about this one, Richard, because there's not a whole
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  Speaker 2: lot of movement here. I'm going to make a couple
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  Speaker 2: different swaps. So at one, I'm going to go with
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  Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, beneficiary of a bye week. No win,
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  Speaker 2: no loss. The two teams in front of them lost,
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  Speaker 2: so give me Josh Allen and the Bills at one.
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  Speaker 2: At two, the 49ers lost on the road in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 2: something that I predicted. I'm not going to give myself
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  Speaker 2: too big of a pat on the back, but that
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  Speaker 2: game had an asterisk on it. They were without their
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  Speaker 2: top four, top five, top six wide receivers. The 49ers
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  Speaker 2: are still cream of the crop in the NFL. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just going to slide them down one slot here to two.
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  Speaker 2: At three, I'm questioning myself, but the Minnesota Vikings, 6-0,
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  Speaker 2: certainly deserve to be in the top five. This offense, though,
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  Speaker 2: is a massive question mark for me. Can Kyler Murray
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  Speaker 2: really be the guy to lead Minnesota to greatness? Huge
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  Speaker 2: question mark there. Give me the Vikings at three, though,
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  Speaker 2: just because of Brian Flores and that defense. At four,
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  Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs. The team got humbled in Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: but they're still a good team. The Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes,
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  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker, can they bounce back this week? We shall see.
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  Speaker 2: With one loss, I got the Chiefs at four. And
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  Speaker 2: then finally, at five, I'm going to join you and
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  Speaker 2: put the Chicago Bears there. A very impressive showing last
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  Speaker 2: week against the New England Patriots on Thursday Night Football.
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  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson and this Bears team, led by Caleb Williams,
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  Speaker 2: are turning in week after week impressive outings, and I
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  Speaker 2: got to put them in my top five. It pains me.
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  Speaker 2: I got two teams in the NFC North in the
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  Speaker 2: top five of my power ranks, and not one of
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  Speaker 2: them is my Detroit Lions. So you guys can't say
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  Speaker 2: I'm a homer anymore, all right, because I'm giving credit
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  Speaker 2: where credit is due. What do you think of those, Rich?
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  Speaker 1: I like them.
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  Speaker 3: I like them, and you got me questioning my power
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  Speaker 3: rankings a little bit. Obviously, I'm not moving the San
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  Speaker 3: Francisco 49ers out, because I still think they're the most
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  Speaker 3: complete team in football. The Kansas City Chiefs took quite
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  Speaker 3: a beating in Seattle, and Seattle did a great job
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  Speaker 3: exposing the weaknesses that Kansas City has, especially along the
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  Speaker 3: offensive line. K-9 had nowhere to go, and they had been,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he had been having a record-breaking season to
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  Speaker 3: that point. It really took everything in me not to
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  Speaker 3: put Seattle in the top five, but now they got
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  Speaker 3: Quentin Nelson now, Mitchell. They got Quentin Nelson. This offensive
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  Speaker 3: line is going to be formidable. But I think I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to move the Kansas City Chiefs down. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I think I am. I think I'm going to move
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  Speaker 3: them down to four. I think I'm going to move
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  Speaker 3: the Vikings up because I have to give Brian Flores
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  Speaker 3: a ton of credit. I know you think they're not
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  Speaker 3: going to play well down the stretch. I think they're
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  Speaker 3: going to play incredibly well down the stretch. The offense
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  Speaker 3: is going to do what all these half-baked offenses need
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  Speaker 3: to do. Don't turn the ball over. Allow your defense
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  Speaker 3: to be great. Allow your defense to force them into
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  Speaker 3: mistakes and give you a short field. Don't put them
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  Speaker 3: in positions where they cannot win. Don't put them in
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  Speaker 3: positions where the other offense is already in field goal
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  Speaker 3: position and is going to score points. Give them the
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  Speaker 3: long field every single time. And if they continue to
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  Speaker 3: play that game, they're going to be a tough team
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  Speaker 3: to beat the way this defense is playing the bills.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sold on. So I'm going to move them
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  Speaker 3: to two, but I just don't know if I'm sold
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  Speaker 3: on them. I'm not sold on the Buffalo bills in
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  Speaker 3: that way because they're half baked. They have no answers
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  Speaker 3: on defense. Uh, They're very similar to your Detroit Lions,
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  Speaker 3: and we don't have them.
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  Speaker 1: In the top five.
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  Speaker 3: They just haven't run into somebody else that's really willing
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  Speaker 3: to expose them in that way. I guess there have
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  Speaker 3: been teams, but they battle. Your Detroit Lions were one
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  Speaker 3: of them. You guys put up a lot of points,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of yards, and the Buffalo Bills put up more.
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  Speaker 3: But it's not always going to be that way. So
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  Speaker 3: I feel like the Bills are one of those teams.
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  Speaker 3: And then, of course, at five, I got the Bears.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Bears... are an up-and-coming team, a team that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, with Caleb Williams at the helm, do a
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  Speaker 3: really great job moving the ball down the field, scoring points.
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  Speaker 3: Him and Ben Johnson are going to find a rhythm
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  Speaker 3: this season and continue to push the ball down the field.
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  Speaker 3: Luther Burton had a really good game last week on
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  Speaker 3: Thursday night. Roma Dunzey is starting to find himself. They've
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  Speaker 3: already had a great running game with DeAndre Swift. They'll
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  Speaker 3: get Kalmanungai back. They're going to be a force to
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  Speaker 3: be reckoned with. But again, people are screaming for Caleb
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  Speaker 3: Williams to be MVP candidate and all that.
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  Speaker 1: Like, okay, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, he's been in the top five for the last
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  Speaker 3: two weeks. You guys have been in the top five.
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  Speaker 3: That's been clear. I got the 49ers. I got the
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  Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. I got the Vikings, the Chiefs, and the Bears.
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  Speaker 3: But MVP candidate, not so fast, my friend. Caleb Williams
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  Speaker 3: has 1,000 yards passing, five touchdowns, one interception. Those are
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  Speaker 3: fine stats, but I think the leader right now in
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  Speaker 3: touchdowns is Brock Purdy at 15 or 16. So, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we understand he's on your team, but let's be careful.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk more about the Chicago Bears. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: be visiting Seattle on Monday night. You know, this is
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  Speaker 2: a game that the world is going to tune into
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  Speaker 2: because it might be one of the top two, three
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  Speaker 2: games of the weekend. Chicago has been red hot. obviously
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  Speaker 2: offensively led by the mastermind Ben Johnson and the aforementioned
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  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, come into Seattle, who is fresh off a
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  Speaker 2: massive win over the Kansas City Chiefs. Richard, what was
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  Speaker 2: different about what Seattle did last week, and how can
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  Speaker 2: they replicate it in this game to get another win
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  Speaker 2: against Chicago?
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  Speaker 3: Well, they did turn the ball over once, but they
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  Speaker 3: didn't turn the ball over and put their defense in
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  Speaker 3: terrible positions. The past few games, it's been tough for
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  Speaker 3: the defense to recover from some of these turnovers. Sam
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  Speaker 3: Darnold did throw the football away in a critical moment
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  Speaker 3: right before the half, threw an interception in the end zone,
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  Speaker 3: a chance to go up 17-0. And then they let
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  Speaker 3: him run it all the way back to field goal range,
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  Speaker 3: which was almost a really devastating play. But they missed
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  Speaker 3: the field goal, and the defense continued to hold, continued
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  Speaker 3: to play well, held K-9 in check. The defense played
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  Speaker 3: as well as they have played all season long. They've
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  Speaker 3: continued to build an incredible resume. And the offense put
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  Speaker 3: them in less terrible positions. When you're a great defense,
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  Speaker 3: you can recover from mishap here and there. But it's
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  Speaker 3: when they continue to stack and they continue to stack
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  Speaker 3: and you don't even give the defense a chance to
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  Speaker 3: get on the field and get a stop. If they
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  Speaker 3: would have let that interception return go all the way
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  Speaker 3: for a touchdown... that would have been a devastating play
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  Speaker 3: because you allowed a touchdown without the defense even getting
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  Speaker 3: out there to defend. And I think that's where they
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  Speaker 3: got to play like this. Sam Darnold has 1,200 yards,
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  Speaker 3: eight touchdowns, and eight interceptions. He's going to have to
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  Speaker 3: change that. He's going to have to get 16, 17
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  Speaker 3: touchdowns and eight interceptions. If that interception number continues to grow,
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  Speaker 3: that's going to be the Achilles heel of this Seattle
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  Speaker 3: Seahawks team. They got the run game going. That was big.
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  Speaker 3: Emmanuel Wilson had a big game, a 100-yard game. For
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  Speaker 3: him to have only 400 yards on the season, he
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  Speaker 3: just had a 100-yard game. It tells you how much
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  Speaker 3: they had been struggling before this 100-yard game that he had.
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  Speaker 3: If they can continue to run the ball like that,
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  Speaker 3: and that's why you trade for a guy like Quentin Nelson,
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  Speaker 3: and you improve this run game substantially, getting a pro-ball,
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  Speaker 3: all-pro-type player like him on this offensive line. My question is,
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  Speaker 3: where is he going to fit? What are you going
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  Speaker 3: to do? This guy has played left guard his whole career.
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  Speaker 3: Are you going to swing him over to right guard?
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  Speaker 3: Are you going to put Gray Zabel at right guard?
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  Speaker 3: Are you going to leave Bradford at right guard and
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  Speaker 3: put Gray Zabel, potentially try him at center? I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if you can do that. I'm not sure if
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  Speaker 3: that's the option, but it's going to be really interesting.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be a talented offensive line for sure.
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  Speaker 2: It certainly looks that way, and this is a big
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  Speaker 2: swing for the Seattle Seahawks. A third and a fifth
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  Speaker 2: round pick for Quentin Nelson, and he certainly has a
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  Speaker 2: proven track record with the Colts. What does this do? Clearly,
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  Speaker 2: John Schneider must be listening to the Richard Sherman podcast.
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  Speaker 2: You spoke time and time again about how the holes
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  Speaker 2: were just not there. The running lanes were just not there.
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  Speaker 2: How big of an impact do you think Quentin Nelson
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  Speaker 2: will have on this offensive line once he does find
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  Speaker 2: his true position on it?
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  Speaker 3: He's going to have a big impact and an immediate impact,
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  Speaker 3: not only just on making, but culturally. I thought Grace
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  Speaker 3: Zabel came in and changed the culture of this offensive line,
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  Speaker 3: both on the field and off the field. I think
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  Speaker 3: a guy like Quentin Nelson, who is a true old-school
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  Speaker 3: offensive lineman, down and dirty, grimy, is going to come
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  Speaker 3: in and add to that culture and is going to
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  Speaker 3: be another guy that he can lean on, that the
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  Speaker 3: rest of this offensive line can lean on, And this
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  Speaker 3: comes at a critical time where Charles Cross is going
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  Speaker 3: to go out with an injury. Charles Cross has a
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  Speaker 3: high ankle sprain. So as they get reinforcements in, they
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  Speaker 3: lose one of their premier offensive linemen, what some consider
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  Speaker 3: their best offensive lineman. And I think he'll be back
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  Speaker 3: this season, obviously. But, you know, it's almost give and
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  Speaker 3: take at this point.
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  Speaker 2: The Chicago Bears were very impressive last week on Thursday
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  Speaker 2: Night Football against the New England Patriots. you were there
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  Speaker 2: witnessed it firsthand this team put up 30 points against
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  Speaker 2: New England and New England had won three in a
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  Speaker 2: row coming into that game what do the Bears have
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  Speaker 2: to do to replicate that performance and attack the Seattle
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks defense.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think the Bears have a much better offensive
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  Speaker 3: line than the Kansas City Chiefs. I think they have
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  Speaker 3: one of the best offensive lines in football. So it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be an incredible challenge on both sides. It's
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  Speaker 3: going to be a great matchup. I look forward to
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  Speaker 3: seeing this Byron Murphy and Jaron Reed and Leonard Williams
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  Speaker 3: and Uchenna Nwosu and all these guys, DeMarcus Lawrence, match
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  Speaker 3: up Derek Hall against the Chicago Bears offensive line. I
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  Speaker 3: know that Mike McDonald is going to scheme this up
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  Speaker 3: incredibly well. There aren't going to be many rush lanes.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to try to contain Caleb Williams. But Caleb,
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  Speaker 3: with this hamstring injury as shown, he can operate from
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  Speaker 3: the pocket if need be. He can be very deadly
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  Speaker 3: and devastating from the pocket. He can find his reads.
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  Speaker 3: But I know that Mike is going to muddy up
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  Speaker 3: the picture. I think the Seattle Seahawks walk away with
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  Speaker 3: this one. We will call it... We're in Seattle. We'll
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  Speaker 3: call it 20... 27-17.
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  Speaker 1: I like that.
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  Speaker 2: I like Seattle as well. They're one of the toughest
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  Speaker 2: teams to play against on the road, and obviously they
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  Speaker 2: found their mojo again last week against the KC Chiefs.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully they can keep this momentum going here. Give me
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  Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks as well. Let's talk about my Detroit Lions.
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  Speaker 2: And this game preview is sponsored by Polymarket. We got
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings at the Detroit Lions. Polymarket has the Lions
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  Speaker 2: upsetting the Vikings with a 62% likelihood to win, while
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings are just at 38%. So this week, Richard,
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  Speaker 2: do you agree with Polymarket's assessment on the Lions being
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  Speaker 2: favored in this one?
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  Speaker 3: Mmm.
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  Speaker 1: Mmm.
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  Speaker 3: This is a tough one. This is tougher than the numbers.
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  Speaker 3: Polymarket has this as an easy call. And I know
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to agree with this, but the Detroit
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  Speaker 3: Lions have not beat the Minnesota Vikings since Ben Johnson
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  Speaker 3: has left. And Brian Flores has this defense playing even
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  Speaker 3: better than they played last year and last season. And
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  Speaker 3: the guys that they had at quarterback last season, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Brosmer and Nine, you know, weren't exactly world beaters to
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  Speaker 3: say the least. And not that Kyler Murray is a
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  Speaker 3: world beater, but If they can play solid and not
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  Speaker 3: turn the football over, I know that this Detroit Lions
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  Speaker 3: offense can get going with the best of them. They're
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  Speaker 3: one of the best in the National Football League. Jared
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  Speaker 3: Goff is having what, if the record was different, would
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  Speaker 3: be an MVP season. He's got 14 touchdown passes. I
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  Speaker 3: think that's tied for third or fourth in the league.
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  Speaker 3: 1,700 yards. Amin Ra is having a fantastic season. Jameer Gibbs,
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  Speaker 3: of course, is having a great season. Ooh, I just,
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe in this defense. I, you know, this
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  Speaker 3: defense is still, even after that great performance last week,
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  Speaker 3: it's 32nd in yards per game, 32nd in passing yards
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  Speaker 3: per game, 12th in rush defense.
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you go first.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know which direction I'm going. And unfortunately, you
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  Speaker 2: picked the Green Bay Packers last week and my Detroit
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  Speaker 2: Lions laid an L on your score column there for you.
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  Speaker 2: So I think we're going to see more of the same.
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  Speaker 2: I have a feeling you're going to go with the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going with the Detroit Lions. This stretch of games
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  Speaker 2: for the Minnesota Vikings, if you look at their schedule,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to prove whether they are legit contenders or not.
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  Speaker 2: They play at Detroit. They're at home against the Bills.
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  Speaker 2: They're at Green Bay. They're at home against the Niners.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, those are four teams that I expect to
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  Speaker 2: see in the playoffs at the end of this year.
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  Speaker 2: Can the Vikings keep this win streak going against premier competition?
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  Speaker 2: It all starts this weekend in Detroit. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that answer is no. I mean, You mentioned the Lions
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  Speaker 2: haven't beat this team without Ben Johnson. I'm sure they
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  Speaker 2: know that, and I'm sure they've notated that. The reality
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  Speaker 2: is this Lions team, they're starting to come along over
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  Speaker 2: these last two weeks, especially defensively. I know it was
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  Speaker 2: against Arizona, but we saw an uptick in the level
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  Speaker 2: of play defensively. We saw them start to answer some
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  Speaker 2: of those questions defensively. Now they get Brian Branch back,
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  Speaker 2: who looked like he just had the perfect amount of
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  Speaker 2: time off. He looked fresh as could be. coming into
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  Speaker 2: this week. And I know they had him on a
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  Speaker 2: snap count, but he was itching to get back out there.
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  Speaker 2: I expect him to get better. I expect this team
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  Speaker 2: to be more cohesive in the back end of that secondary.
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  Speaker 2: And Richard, I got the Detroit Lions winning this game.
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  Speaker 2: I got them covering the spread. I just believe more
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  Speaker 2: in this Detroit Lion team and this defense, shockingly, than
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  Speaker 2: I do the Minnesota Vikings offense. I think that is
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  Speaker 2: a more glaring issue is the Minnesota Vikings offense because
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  Speaker 2: the reality is This is going to be the toughest
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  Speaker 2: offense this Vikings team has seen all year. You're playing
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  Speaker 2: in a very hostile setting in Detroit. I like Detroit
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  Speaker 2: to win by a touchdown in this game. I expect
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  Speaker 2: it to be a little bit low scoring. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: somewhat similar to what we saw last week with 20 points,
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  Speaker 2: maybe 20, give me 23 points on the board for
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  Speaker 2: the Lions, 23 to 16. Richard, I think the Detroit
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  Speaker 2: Lions answer the call and get a win on the
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  Speaker 2: board here and improve to five and two. Did that
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  Speaker 2: convince you enough?
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  Speaker 3: You did a fair job trying to convince me, Mitchell.
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  Speaker 3: I just know that it's tough. It's really, really tough.
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  Speaker 3: It's tough for me to go against defense. It's tough
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  Speaker 3: for me to go against a defensive team like the
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  Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings when they're playing the way they have, even
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  Speaker 3: when their.
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  Speaker 1: Offense is struggling.
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  Speaker 3: And the Detroit defense is playing as terribly as they
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  Speaker 3: have been playing. I know they played really well against
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  Speaker 3: The Green Bay Packers, and sure, maybe that's enough, and
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  Speaker 3: they can play well this week. If I go with
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  Speaker 3: Detroit and they let me down and they get shut
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  Speaker 3: down by Brian Flores and lose again, Mitchell, it's going
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  Speaker 3: to be tough for me to go for him again.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to go with the Honolulu Blue Boys this time,
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  Speaker 3: but begrudgingly, begrudgingly.
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  Speaker 2: Richard Kevin Sherman going against the defense. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: You see what I did there? I see what you
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  Speaker 1: did there, Mitchell.
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  Speaker 2: Going against the defense.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Polly market gives the lines a 26% chance to
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  Speaker 2: score more than three and a half touchdowns. Do you
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  Speaker 2: think there's any way they put four or more touchdowns
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  Speaker 2: on the board this Sunday?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Four more touchdowns?
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't think that the Detroit Lions are going
• 16:40
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• 16:43
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• 16:46
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• 18:00
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• 18:19
  Speaker 3: the final statement of the football week. You've spent all
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: weekend reacting to big plays and big decisions, and now
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: there's one more matchup to break down. It's the kind
• 18:29
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• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Not pull you away from it.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: And DiGiorno pizza lets you enjoy restaurant-quality taste fresh from
• 18:38
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• 18:42
  Speaker 3: the defense disguises coverage, how the offense adjusts, and Who
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: makes the play when everybody knows the pressure is coming?
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Stay locked into the moments everyone will react afterwards to.
• 18:54
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• 18:58
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• 19:10
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• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Let's take it to Denver. Mile high. The Denver Broncos
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: welcome the Kansas City Chiefs division battle here. Kansas City
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: brought back down to earth by your Seattle Seahawks. Now
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: they got a tough road contest against these Broncos. And
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: the Broncos looked better last week. Bo Nix played a
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: bit better last week against Arizona Cardinals. Meanwhile, Kansas City
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: only scored three points. Who is this Kansas City team?
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Because they look so dominant in the first five.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Games of the season.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: And then looked like an absolute shell of themselves last
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: week in Seattle. Who really is this Kansas City Chiefs?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Team? I really don't know.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: They are a team that has run the ball really well.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: K-9 was having a record-setting season before they ran into
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: its old team, the Seattle Seahawks, the reigning Super Bowl champions.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is having a A pretty good season. You know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: his standards are so high that you can't say he's
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: having a great season. But they're a really good team.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: They're a really good team. And with Andy Reid and
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes and Kenneth Walker, I think they're going to
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: be a formidable matchup. Again, Bo Nix has had a
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: solid season, but nothing to write home about. And I
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: think that Kansas City is going to do a great
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: job on him. They've shown that they can have success
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: on this defense. And I think they will. I got
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs winning this game, going away.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: This is going to be a tough one. I like
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Kansas City too. I just think that Seattle is a
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: bad matchup for them, especially in Lumen Field. Denver, I'm
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: still questioning them offensively. Obviously, their defense has held them
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: into games. But, you know, can Bo Nix continue the
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: momentum that he showed in Arizona? Can he press the
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: ball downfield more? Can he get Cortland Sutton and Jalen
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Waddell more involved? And the other thing to keep an
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: eye on with this Denver Broncos team is the emergence
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: of Jonah Coleman, who just came off IR. You know,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: this guy is a spark plug that they can plug in.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Rookie out of Washington. He's had more explosive runs than J.K.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Dobbins.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Well, he's got one less explosive run than J.K.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Dobbins.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: He's only got 19 carries.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: J.K.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: 's got about 80. So that goes to show you
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: how impressive Jonah Coleman is. He might give the Denver
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Broncos a little something extra offensively, But there's something about
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Kansas City this year. I think they've answered who they
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: can be coming off injury with Patrick Mahomes, with Kenneth Walker.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to be angry coming into this game.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Give me Kansas City as well. Before we leave this game.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: And we can't forget that these teams have already played
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: week one. Now, obviously, everything isn't already set in stone
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: week one. But I think Kenneth Walker showed who he
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: was week one. Denver's rush defense hasn't improved a ton
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: since then. They're not great overall. They're 23rd in yards
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: per game, which is crazy for a Denver Broncos. Vance
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Joseph coached defense. They've always been in the top 10
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: in most categories. So I think Kansas City has a
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: great advantage in this game on both sides of football.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Before we leave this game, we saw Kenneth Walker walk
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: off of Lumen Field last weekend without shaking the hands
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: of his former teammates. Is this surprising to you? I mean,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on this?
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Is it surprising? No. He's a competitor.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, everybody competes in their own way
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: and takes losses in their own way. And you get frustrated.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: You know, I think he had expectations. You know, sometimes
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: this is a game you circle on your calendar. And
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: when you circle a game on your calendar and it
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: doesn't turn out the way you want to and you're
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: not able to have the game you want to have,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: you know, sometimes you get frustrated and you say, hey,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not shaking hands.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I'm not being friendly. I'm not hugging everybody after the game.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not happy about it. I'm going to sit here
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: and think about this and deal with my frustrations how
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: I deal with it. Whether people like it or not,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, people don't like a lot of things. I
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: think we're in a world where people are up in
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: arms about every single thing. If he shook hands, they'd
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: be like, he's being too friendly. He wants to be
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: back in Seattle. He doesn't shake hands. He's not a sportsman.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, it is what it is. It's what sports are.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: It's not predictable.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Let's take it to Thursday night football, a game you'll
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: be at in Green Bay. The Green Bay Packers welcome
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers. Both of these teams lost this past weekend,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: so both have got a lot to play for. Which
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: team are we going to see? Because we've seen so
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: much up and down with this Carolina Panthers team throughout
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the year. Green Bay, they're battling so many darn injuries.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: What are your expectations for this Green Bay team going
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: into Thursday night football? Do you think they can come
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: away with a win here against a hungry Panthers team?
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll see.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Um, Tampa Bay ran the ball down Carolina's throat, uh, for,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: to the tune of 258 yards. Carolina is 32nd in
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: the league in rush defense and Josh Jacobs is back.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: And so I know he's seeing this game and licking
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: his chops and seeing what Tampa Bay did last week
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: and Bucky Irving and saying, Hey, I can do that. Um,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: And Carolina has allowed 27.7 points per game. And that's,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: you know, if you're the Green Bay Packers, you have
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: to feel great about that, especially the way Jordan Love
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: has been playing and been pushing the ball down the field.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: He did not play well versus your Detroit Lions, that's
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: for sure. But Christian Watson has had a phenomenal season,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: 34 receptions, 595 yards, six touchdowns amongst the league leaders
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: in that category. And I think that him and Matthew
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Golden are going to have a really, really great game
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: this week. but Carolina's past defense is legitimate and they're,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: they're tough, but I just, I don't, the both teams
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: are inconsistent and you don't know what you're going to get.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: You know, you think green Bay has figured it out
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: and they're pushing the ball down the.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Field all day.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: And then they go and play your Detroit lions who,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: who have had a really rough go at it on
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: defense the past couple of games. And they go out
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: there and, and, and kind of lay an egg. And so,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: This is one of those games that's really, really 50-50.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, Polymarket has Green Bay at 65% and Carolina
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: at 35%, but I don't really know. I guess I'll
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: take Green Bay in this game. Regrettingly, this season, it's
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: just like every time you take games like this, you
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: pick them, the team decides not to show up in
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: any meaningful way.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: And you're like, why did I pick them? Oh, because
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: they used to know how to play football.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: It's crazy because we're in week eight, and we're still
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out who's really good in this league.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: There's so much.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: We keep going back to it, but there's so much
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: parity in this league right now, and this matchup exemplifies that.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I would not be shocked whatsoever if Carolina went on
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: the road and got this win. I also wouldn't be
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: shocked if the Green Bay Packers blew them out. That
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: being said, I just think there's more at stake for
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers right now if they want to
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: keep pace in this NFC North Division race. Give me
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the Packers by a score here, by a touchdown. They're
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: going to cover the 4.5 spread at home. Richard, you're
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: going to be there. Thursday night football, make sure you
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: guys tune in on Amazon Prime to see Richard and
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: the crew. Let's take it to Buffalo. This matchup could
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: be a doozy if Lamar Jackson plays. The Baltimore Ravens
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: are coming into town fresh off a loss last week
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: and frankly got blown out against Cincinnati 35-13. The Buffalo
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Bills are well rested coming off the bye. Lamar Jackson's
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: a coin flip for this game. How much does his
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: presence or absence impact your pick in this game?
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: It's the determining factor. Again, just like last week, and
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I said it on here, if Lamar Jackson plays, I
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: got Baltimore. If he didn't play, and Tyler Huntley played,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Snoop Huntley, who's a solid backup, if he plays, I
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: got Buffalo. Buffalo's defense is one of the worst in football.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: They're right there with your Detroit Lions. They're 31st in
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: yards per game. They're 31st in passing yards per game
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: and 15th against the run. And that's the reason I
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: think this team is not going to go all the way.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: It's not because Josh Allen is an incredible quarterback and
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: puts the team on his back and they got James
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Cook who's having another great season and all these great things.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: It's because at the end of the day, Josh Allen
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: can't do it all by himself and he can't play defense.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: And if he's not If their defense isn't getting stops
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: and they can't stop people from moving the ball down
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: the field, then they're not going to win a Super
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Bowl this season. And it doesn't seem like they've gotten
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: that fixed. But if Lamar Jackson doesn't play in this game,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: they're not beating Buffalo.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: What do you make of this Lamar Jackson situation? Obviously,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: the more weeks go on, the rumors are starting to
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: swirl more and more. And they're swirling around the fact
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: that he doesn't want to play because he wants an extension.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Do you believe that rumor? I thought we just went
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: through this with Lamar Jackson a couple years ago. Do
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: you believe this is more extension related or do you
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: believe he's truly injured?
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: I really don't know. I mean, I would guess he's
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: truly injured. That would be my guess about the whole deal.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: He's a competitor and he's been a competitor his whole
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: career and he's rarely missed games unless he was seriously hurt.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: So I'm not going to put that on him. I'm
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: not going to put a guy with no history of
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: doing things like this is going to do something like this.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: This is a guy that fights every single day for
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: his teammates, fights every single game, fights for every yard
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: that he gets. So I don't think he's going to
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: feign an injury and stop competing in the middle of
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: the season with things still right in front of him.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: This team still has everything right in front of them.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: And This is a big-time game. Last week was a
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: big game that they needed to have. This is an
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: even bigger game. They're still over. 500, and if they
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: can win this game in a very tough AFC North
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: right now with both Pittsburgh and Cleveland being 5-2, this
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: would be a huge boost.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the AFC North is certainly looking like a gauntlet
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: as well. Let's talk more about the AFC North. We
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: got Pittsburgh hosting the Cleveland Browns. Polly Market favors Pittsburgh.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: giving them a 64% likelihood to win this game and
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: a three and a half point line. Cleveland comes into
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: town led by Deshaun Watson. This team might be one
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: of the biggest surprises, if not the biggest surprise in
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: the NFL right now. Who do you like more in
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: this game, Richard? I feel like both teams have a
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: lot of question marks despite being five and two. Do
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: you like Cleveland on the road in Pittsburgh?
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Both teams are the epitome of a question mark coming
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: into this game. And neither one of them are teams
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: I like to watch because it looks like they're accidentally
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: stumbling to wins. Deshaun Watson has a few fourth-quarter comebacks
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: in games and another almost comeback.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: In his game.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: This game could easily be 6-1 if the ball bounced
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: a certain way. Denzel Boston has been a godsend for
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: this team. He's 20 receptions, 372 yards. Quinn Quinn Sean
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Judkins had a really good game last week, but I
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: just don't know who these teams are. And Pittsburgh, you know,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: their defense can at times be really good and at
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: times kind of, you know, non-existent. But I think Pittsburgh's
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: the better team. I would take Pittsburgh in this game,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: but every time I take Pittsburgh, Cleveland upsets them.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: But give me Pittsburgh in this one.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I like Pittsburgh as well.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: They just find a way to win.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: It might not be the prettiest brand of football, but
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: led by Aaron Rodgers, they're getting a little bit more competitive.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Obviously going overseas to France and taking care of the
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Saints last weekend was impressive as well. Give me Pittsburgh
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: in this game. But I am anxious to see if
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns can pull this one off because if
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: they improve to 6-2, that's just a wild story. And
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: it's nice to see Deshaun Watson playing well as well.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: um let's talk it's now it's the fourth quarter on
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the Richard Sherman podcast we're going to talk quickly through
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: some of these games here uh that remain on the
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: slate and the first one starts with the Dallas Cowboys
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: who are welcoming the Arizona Cardinals into town uh Dallas
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Monday Night Football um that second half they blew the
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: doors off they the Philadelphia Eagles and they look like
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: this team I said it last night I just don't
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: get the Dallas Cowboys they've got Some of the biggest
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: names in football, yet they just can't seem to come
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: together and play as a team. They looked apart last
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: night in the second half. Richard, before we get into
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: this game itself, do you think Dallas has what it
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: takes to take down this wide-open NFC East?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: But I thought yesterday there were some impressive things. I
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: thought Caleb Downs played really good. I thought DeMarvion Overshawn.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: was a maniac out there. He was all over the field,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: had that cool interception. They're definitely a different defense. When
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: he was out there, Quentin Williams had some really cool
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: plays where he was hustling around, and they looked the
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: part last night. Obviously, Dak Prescott is going to do
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: what he does. CeeDee Lamb is going to do what
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: he does. Give me Dallas in this game. I think
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: they're going to win this one going away and kind
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: of get themselves back on track. The NFC East is
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: such a toss-up. You just never know. John Harbaugh has
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: the Giants playing well. I think the team that you,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: if you had to bet and you had to put
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: your money on somebody, you'd put it on Dallas just
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: because they're the most talented team, you know, the healthier
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: team out.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Of all the teams left.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: You, you, you know, you know what the Philadelphia Eagles are,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: but their defense didn't play as well as they could.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: They were capable of last night and put a lot
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: of pressure on Tanner McKee to try to win that
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: game for him. And, and, you know, you can't expect
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: the third string, technically second, third string quarterback to.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Get that done. But give me Dallas in this game.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think Arizona's got enough. I agree.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Give me Dallas as well. Let's take it to the
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: NFC South. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers hosting the Atlanta Falcons.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Polymarket gives Tampa Bay a 54% likelihood to win this one.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Atlanta just knocked off the San Francisco 49ers, yet comes
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: into Tampa as underdogs. Atlanta's 3-4. Tampa Bay's 2-5. Another
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: division that's wildly up for grabs. Who do you like
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: in this one?
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go with Atlanta just because they beat
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: the San Francisco 49ers. Tampa Bay has been so inconsistent
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: this season. Baker Mayfield didn't have to do a ton
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: last week. He still got the injury, the injured thumb.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: But Bucky Irving had a fantastic game, but I don't
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: think that's going to be enough this week against Atlanta.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Michael Pennix, nine touchdowns, one interception.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Drake London's a big-time receiver, has 616 yards, only one
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: touchdown on the season. I think he goes out there
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: and has a big game. And Bajon Robinson, who's the
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: best player on this team, continues to put the team
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: on his back, and they come out with a win.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Then take it to Cincinnati. This team's 4-2. I was
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: super high on them coming into the season. They won
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: two in a row. Then they lost two in a row.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Now they're back to winning two in a row. Cincinnati
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: takes on the Tennessee Titans at home. Polly Mark gives
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: them an 83% chance of winning this game. What is
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals team? Let's just start there.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: You know, that's that's the tough part. You know, they
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: play defense well sometimes and then other times they don't.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Right now they're in the bottom half of the league
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: at 21st and yards per game, 22nd and passing yards
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: per game. But they made some plays in this game
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: in this past game to help them get that win.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I think their offense is going to do enough, put
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: enough points on the board with T. Higgins and Jamar
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Chase and all the weapons they have on the offensive
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: side of the ball with Joe Burrow at the helm.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: And their defense just needs to get enough stops to
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: get the win. against a Tennessee team that has not
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: done a ton on offense or defense.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Give me Cincinnati in this game.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Cincinnati, the one glaring hole with Cincy that I
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: see is their running game. Much like the Seattle Seahawks,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: their lead back, Chase Brown, has only got 285 yards
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: on the season, 82 carries, one touchdown. If this team
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: really wants to become a contender, they're going to have
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: to start establishing something on the ground. I, too, like
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Cincy in this game. Improving to 5-2 and keeping pace
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: in that division Let's take it to the Jets, New
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: York Jets against the Las Vegas Raiders. This Raiders team
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: was everyone's darling to start the season. Now they're three
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: and four. The New York Jets have had glimpses of, hey,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: maybe this team's good. Now they're two and five. Is
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn on the hot seat?
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I think Aaron Glenn was on the hot seat to
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: begin the season. I would guess nothing has changed since then.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: They play better defense. They've got an interception this year.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: But I got them losing this game. Kirk Cousins is
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: leading the National Football League in touchdown passes. Even when
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: they aren't playing well and even when things aren't playing well,
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: he has played well. He's got 1,800 yards, 16 touchdowns,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: five interceptions. They don't get a ton on the ground
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: from Ashton Genting and Mike Washington, and that's something that
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: they need to improve on. But I got them in
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: this game, even though Geno Smith has played solid football.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: He has 1,600 yards, 10 touchdowns, only two interceptions. I
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: just don't think New York has enough. They just lost
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: to the Miami Dolphins, who were a winless team and
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: what everybody expects to be one of the worst teams
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: in football. And I just don't see how they can
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: recover from that. But again, Polly Market has this at 51% Jets, 49% Vegas.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: So they got it right at 50-50. So I would
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: imagine that's the way it's going to be. It's going
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: to be a toss-up game, but give me Las Vegas
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: in this one.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: If Aaron Glenn doesn't work out with the Jets, we'd
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: happily welcome him back to Detroit. Bring me back the
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: D coordinator here to Detroit. Everyone loves Aaron Glenn in Detroit.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: But I, too, side with you. The Raiders, they're due
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: for a win. Give me the Raiders on the road.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: And then Indy, so many question marks about this team.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Just traded Quentin Nelson, which we've already discussed earlier in
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: the pod. They're traveling on the road to Jacksonville, or
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: I guess it's Orlando, Jacksonville. now to take on the
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: 4-2 Jacksonville Jaguars. Jacksonville is coming off the bye. Do
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: you expect them to bounce back and get in the
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: winning column again?
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I expect them to dominate this game. Indy is
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: in a fire sale right now. Fired their GM, Chris Ballard. Hey,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: it's Trevor Lawrence and Liam Cohen coming off a bye.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Needing this win. Travis Hunter is playing really great football defensively. Offensively, again,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: they have one of the best receiving cores in the
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: National Football League. A defense that It's fantastic against the run.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Not as great against the pass so far, but they
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: do turn the football over. Daniel Jones hasn't been having
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: the season that I think that he's at least the
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: start of the season that he had last year. He's
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: got 1,300 yards, almost 1,400 yards, four touchdowns, seven interceptions.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor's having a pretty good year. But I think, again,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: this is one of the best run defenses in football
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: in Jacksonville, the best run defensive football statistically right now.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: And I think they're going to do a really good
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: job of containing him And if they do that, they
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: win this game. Going away, give me Jacksonville.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville in convincing fashion. But before we leave this one,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: you mentioned it. The Indianapolis Colts could be moving into
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: fire sale territory. Do you think there's a world that
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: they trade Jonathan Taylor? And which team do you think
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: would be in the market for Jonathan Taylor?
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: I think a team that they just already made a
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: trade with, the Seattle Seahawks, are a team that would
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: be in the mix.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: For Jonathan Taylor as well. And I'm sure.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: that John Snyder and Ed Dodds are having those conversations
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: right now about what it would take. And I'm guessing
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: it would take a day one pick and maybe a
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: little bit more to get Jonathan Taylor out of it.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the guy that could help this team
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: the most. Everybody needs great running backs, but they need
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: it really bad.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the type of trade that would certainly
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: change the landscape of the NFL this season. But again,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: give me Jacksonville in this game.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: DeForest Buckner is home again. San Francisco 49ers are bringing
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: the boys back home. Brought back Debo Samuel, brought back
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Dre Greenlaw, and now bring back DeForest Buckner. Eric Armstead,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: you better be looking at your phone because that's what
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: kind of year it seems like for the San Francisco 49ers.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: I know DeForest Buckner is excited to just be back home,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: be in that building, be around a team that appreciates,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: loves him, and a guy that was drafted there. I
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: know it's probably a surreal moment for him. He was
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: frustrated a couple weeks ago just being in the same old,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: same old, same old, and watching his former team have
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of success. And then you watch that
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: team struggle mightily against the Atlanta Falcons. But John Robinson
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: in that run game, Michael Pennix struggling They did a
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: great job moving the football, and they needed DeForest Buckner
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: in that game, and they needed him going forward, and
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: they have the bye week to get him up to speed.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: I'm sure Chris Kocerec is jumping on top of the
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: tables with excitement and getting this. I know everybody is
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: going to say, oh, man, they're so young right now.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: They don't need this. Just keep developing the young guys.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Veterans develop young guys, and injury rate is 100% in
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: the National Football League.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: There's never too much depth.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: You talked about the arms race between The Seattle Seahawks
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: and the LA Rams, well, the San Francisco 49ers are
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: very much in that arms race, bringing DeForest Buckner back.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I think that's an incredible addition, a big time addition
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: to a guy that's going to make a great difference
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: on this team. And they got him for only a
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: 2027 fourth round pick. That's a steal. That's John Snyder.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, John Lynch has to be feeling incredibly good.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, John Snyder too, because this NFC West, they're just,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: plucking pro bowlers from the Indianapolis Colts. My guy, Ed Dodds,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: is dealing his first two moves as a general manager
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: or controller of this team is to trade away Quentin
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Nelson and DeForest Buckner and get some draft picks.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I respect it. I respect it. Very aggressive move.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: You know, kind of going to this fire sale mode
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: and try to rebuild it from the bottom up. I
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: think that could work out for the Colts, but we
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: will see. But this move definitely helps the San Francisco
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: 49ers in a big way, bringing one of their favorite
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: sons back home.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Love to see it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Let's take it to LA, the battle of the LA teams,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: the chargers on the road, even though they're at home
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: against the Rams, uh, poly market gives the Rams a 75%
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: chance to win this game. Is there, is this the
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: week I'm going to ask you this question every single week.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Is this the week that the chargers finally put a
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: one in the wind column?
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: No, it's not. No, it's not.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: And The only reason they didn't lose last week is
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: because they didn't play. You know, the only weeks they
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: can win is when they don't play. And I told
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Chargers fans this, and usually I'm not this harsh on
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: teams because I'm like, you know, it is what it is.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I thought they checked out for the year already, man.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: They might have. They might have.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: But I get frustrated with these fan bases that act
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: like we're saying something crazy when we're criticizing their team
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: in a fair way. Justin Herbert has not played well
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: enough for you guys to win this game, and now
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: you can blame him. the struggles with the offensive line,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: the two first round picks, they're all pro tackles that
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: you got aren't playing as well as they have. Now
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: one of them's hurt. Uh, the interior offensive line hasn't
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: played as well. The run game, this three headed, four
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: headed monster or three headed, four headed mid, uh, monster
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: or whatever you want to call it at running back.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Isn't working. There is no running back by committee. Nobody's
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: playing well enough. You don't have enough receivers. I don't
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: think lad McConkie was the answer. They, they portrayed him
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: as a number one receiver. He's not, uh, uh, Quinn
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Johnson is inconsistent at best. He'd be great as a
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: two if you guys got a number one receiver. But
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I think Matthew Stafford and this Rams team are playing
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: with a sense of urgency.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: They're desperate right now.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: They beat the Las Vegas Rams, I mean Raiders, and
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: they know they have to have this game. Whether the
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Chargers win this game or lose this game, it doesn't
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: change anything in the minds of anybody outside of L.A.,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: but the Rams have to have this game to stand
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: the playoff hunt. I mean, this NFC is starting to
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: get going, and teams are playing well. Teams are stacking
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: up some wins, and they need to continue to stack
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: up some wins. Their defense is playing really well, you know,
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: fifth in total defense, fourth against the pass. They have
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: to continue that and hold things off until Miles Garrett
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: is able to return. Puna Ford and the rest of
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: these guys, Colby Turner, Trent McDuffie, all these guys that
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: they have out, you know, they, they gotta, they gotta
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: get these guys healthy and back in the fold Devante Adams,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: but I think they'll win this game.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: You know, if you look at the NFC right now,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: the way that the wild card is shaken out, it
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: is going to be highly competitive. I, you know, if
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: a team's 10 and seven, there's no guarantee that they're
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: going to get in. So each one of these games
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: is so crucial for a Rams team that already has
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: four losses on the, on the scorecard right now. So,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: The Rams have got to get hot, and they've got
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: to stay hot quick. I expect them to win this
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: game against the Chargers. That being said, with the Chargers,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: don't look now, but this schedule doesn't get much easier.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: They're at home against the Texans next week, who are
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: in desperate need to get hot, and then they're at Baltimore.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: So I know we called it coming into the season.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: We looked at the schedule after they won 0-2 against
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Arizona and the Raiders. We said, hey, they may be
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: staring in the face of an 0-7 start, I might
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: amend that to 0-9 here, Richard. It is going to
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: be a brutal, long season for this L.A. Chargers team.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Let's take it to steaming hot Miami. I'm talking about
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: the climate, not the team here. New England travels on
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the road for a division matchup against the Dolphins. Polymarket
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: gives the Patriots a 76% likelihood of winning this game.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Miami finally got their first win last week against the Jets. Now,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: What are your expectations of this game? Do you think
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: the Pats have any shot of slipping up in this one?
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: I don't think they have much shot of slipping up.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I know Mike Grable will have this team ready for
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: a potential trap game. It is a division game, so
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be closer than Polly Market
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: maybe thinks. That 7.5 is a little loose. I think
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: it's probably a 6-7 point game. But I think the
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: New England Patriots walk away with this game. I'm not
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: sure the Miami Dolphins want to keep winning. Somebody was
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: talking about this. The other day, you look back at
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: these wins during April, and you're going to be like, wait,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: why did we win that game? The difference between the
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: franchise quarterback you want and the guy you don't want.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: But I think New England Patriots win this game. They're
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: competing for that AFC East crown. They're trying to keep
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: up with the Buffalo Bills, and they're going to need
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: this win to try to do that.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of the easiest ones to pick
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: for me this weekend. Give me the Patriots as well
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: in convincing fashion. And then finally, Philadelphia Eagles, who we
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: just saw on Monday Night Football, they head on the
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: road to the Commanders to face division rival Washington. Apali
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Market likes the Commanders in this game. 64% chance to
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: win the game, three and a half point line. Listen,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: this NFC East. I know the Giants are ahead. They're
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: ahead by a few games, but it's relatively wide open.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think the whole NFL world believes in the
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: New York Giants. They're certainly a fun story to keep
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: an eye on down the stretch here. But the Washington Commanders,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: to me, are a team that should be viewed as
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: a dark horse because they've got a healthy Jaden Daniels
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: under center. I know Terry McLaurin went out with a
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: devastating knee injury the other week, but this team still
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: has talent on the offensive side of the ball. Do
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: you think Washington can possibly get hot and make a
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: run in this division?
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I really don't know
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: because you don't know who they are. I mean, the
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: one win they have this season, Jaden Daniels didn't even play.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Marcus Mariota beat the reigning Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: The defense played well, had a touchdown on defense in
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: that game, forced some turnovers. I mean, one of the
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: best games they played, most complete games they played all season,
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: and Jaden Daniels didn't play. So, I'm not sure I
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: believe this. Now, as terrible as the Philadelphia Eagles defense
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: played last week, again, this is a league where they
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: could wake up next week and play phenomenal and hold
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: this team to under 200 yards. So can Tanner McKee
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: get hot? Can Tanner McKee find a rhythm and get
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: this team going? I'm not sure. Give me Washington in
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: this one begrudgingly just because of how terrible the Philadelphia
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Eagles defense played against Dallas Cowboys. But Dallas Cowboys are
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: a much more talented offense than this Washington Commanders.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: This Philadelphia Eagles season, I'm sure they would want to
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: hit the refresh button on this one. Not a whole
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: lot of folks saw the season going this way. I'll
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: join you with the commanders as well. Richard, that concludes
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: our week eight predictions. It's always a pleasure to sit
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: down with you midweek. I will let you sign us off,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: my friend.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you guys joining me.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: You can be anywhere in the world, but you're here
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: with us and we surely do appreciate it.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I hope you guys have a beautiful, blessed week. We
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: will see you next time.