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- 0:53Speaker 1: Immigration Minister Andrew Giles is out and so is Home
- 0:56Speaker 1: Affairs Minister Claire O'Neill as Anthony Albanesi tries to regain
- 1:00Speaker 1: control of border policy, plus a new Indigenous Affairs minister
- 1:05Speaker 1: rises Today Anthony Albanese's big Cabinet reshuffled and what it
- 1:11Speaker 1: tells us about the looming election.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Anthony Albanesi has put his government on an election footing
- 1:25Speaker 2: by removing two underperforming ministers while putting one of his
- 1:29Speaker 2: most senior lieutenants into the key Home Affairs ministry.
- 1:38Speaker 1: In federal politics, some portfolios are much tougher than others. Immigration,
- 1:43Speaker 1: you need nerves of steel and the ability to sail
- 1:46Speaker 1: past allegations of heartlessness. You're in charge of the overall
- 1:50Speaker 1: migration mix, deportations and offshore detention. What could go wrong?
- 1:56Speaker 1: Right Home Affairs you carry the care for border protection,
- 2:01Speaker 1: counter terrorism and cybersecurity. When a boat full of Shri
- 2:05Speaker 1: Lunkan or Pakistani asylum seekers lands in remote wa you
- 2:09Speaker 1: get the call. When Anthony Albernezi came to government in
- 2:13Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, he chose two newby ministers. Immigration went
- 2:17Speaker 1: to a member of the PM's own left faction, Andrew Giles,
- 2:21Speaker 1: a lawyer, and Home Affairs to a member of Labour's
- 2:25Speaker 1: right former Victorian local mayor and management consultant Claire O'Neill.
- 2:31Speaker 1: They have struggled, not necessarily because of personal failings, but
- 2:35Speaker 1: because these are hugely challenging jobs for first time ministers
- 2:39Speaker 1: or anyone. Now both their jobs have been handed to
- 2:43Speaker 1: one of the most powerful people in government, Tony Burke,
- 2:46Speaker 1: from Labour's famously ruthless New South Wales right faction. Burke
- 2:51Speaker 1: takes pretty much all their responsibilities except AZIO, the nation's
- 2:56Speaker 1: spy agency that's moved out of Home Affairs and to
- 3:00Speaker 1: the Attorney General's Department. Greg Brown is the Australian's Canbrook
- 3:05Speaker 1: Bureau chief.
- 3:06Speaker 2: Tony Burke will be the Minister for both Home Affairs
- 3:09Speaker 2: and Immigrations, so he's doing two former ministers' jobs in one.
- 3:14Speaker 2: He's also looking after multicultural affairs, which I think is
- 3:17Speaker 2: critical given he's a Western Sydney MP with a high
- 3:21Speaker 2: Muslim population. He's also the Minister for the Art. He's
- 3:24Speaker 2: also the Minister for Cybersecurity, which comes under Home Affairs,
- 3:28Speaker 2: and he's also the Leader of the House, which is
- 3:31Speaker 2: kind of like the government's key strategist. Now. I think
- 3:34Speaker 2: a key takeout from this is that this is the
- 3:37Speaker 2: appointment that Anthony Albaneze he made two years too late
- 3:42Speaker 2: upon coming into government. He should have treated Home Affairs
- 3:47Speaker 2: and Immigration seriously. Instead, he knew no one wanted to
- 3:50Speaker 2: do either. It's always poisoned for an ambitious labor politician
- 3:55Speaker 2: to take those portfolios. So he put in Claire O'Neill,
- 3:59Speaker 2: someone who here I don't think as a particularly close
- 4:02Speaker 2: relationship with He put her into Home Affairs, and then
- 4:07Speaker 2: he put his very good mate Andrew Giles into Immigration
- 4:10Speaker 2: because he knew that Jiles, being very loyal to him,
- 4:14Speaker 2: wouldn't say no, and wouldn't be angry with him about it.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Taking Burke's previous job. Is another winner from the reshuffle
- 4:21Speaker 1: the left factions. Murray What. He is the widely respected
- 4:25Speaker 1: Minister for Agriculture who's being promoted to Employment and Workplace Relations,
- 4:31Speaker 1: a big cabinet job.
- 4:33Speaker 2: It's a big promotion for Murray What. He's one of
- 4:35Speaker 2: the key figures of the Queensland Left and he's got
- 4:39Speaker 2: a lot of union backing, factional backing. But he's also
- 4:43Speaker 2: a very good performer. So I think this is alb
- 4:46Speaker 2: and easy shoring up some of his internal support by
- 4:50Speaker 2: people that are close from the United Workers' Union, a
- 4:54Speaker 2: key union, but also rewarding Senator What for his very
- 4:58Speaker 2: good performances. Doing so, though, it does risk putting regional
- 5:03Speaker 2: Australia offside, and that is really something that Labor traditionally
- 5:09Speaker 2: struggles with.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Andrew Giles has been dealing with a nightmarish unintended consequence
- 5:18Speaker 1: of a labor policy Labour inherited from the Coalition a
- 5:22Speaker 1: tough regime of deporting convicted criminals who are non citizens
- 5:26Speaker 1: of Australia, But early in its term, Labour decided to
- 5:30Speaker 1: introduce a new rule called direction ninety nine, which allowed
- 5:35Speaker 1: the tribunal that rules on these cases to consider the
- 5:38Speaker 1: length and depth of a criminal's connection to Australia when
- 5:41Speaker 1: deciding whether to let them stay. Surprise, surprise, this led
- 5:46Speaker 1: to hardcore convicts whom the government wanted to deport being
- 5:49Speaker 1: allowed to remain in Australia. The government had to frantically
- 5:54Speaker 1: dump that policy. Claara O'Neill's tenure and remember she was
- 5:59Speaker 1: in Chine of Borderforce has seen an optic in what
- 6:02Speaker 1: the government calls unauthorized maritime arrivals. Both people, more than
- 6:07Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty potential irregular immigrants that's another government euphemism,
- 6:12Speaker 1: have arrived and all have been either turned back to
- 6:15Speaker 1: their country of departure or taken to the processing center
- 6:18Speaker 1: on Nauru. Last month, twelve people were turned back, thirty
- 6:23Speaker 1: seven went to Nauru, five went home from Nauru to
- 6:26Speaker 1: their own countries, and five voluntarily left Australia. So it's
- 6:32Speaker 1: a trickle, not the kind of flood the opposition predicted
- 6:35Speaker 1: when Labour came to power. Here's O'Neill in April.
- 6:39Speaker 3: Operation Sovereign Borders is a sacrisant part of Australian public
- 6:42Speaker 3: policy it's something that I spend a lot of time on.
- 6:45Speaker 3: It's something that we've devoted additional resources to. I've been
- 6:48Speaker 3: a bit disappointed in recent days to see people that
- 6:50Speaker 3: I actually respect in the opposition coming out and you know,
- 6:54Speaker 3: telling untruths about this and pulling into question aspects of
- 6:58Speaker 3: this policy. The Commander offerin sovereign Borders has been really
- 7:01Speaker 3: opened that provides an alternative narrative for people snugglers, and
- 7:04Speaker 3: I asked them to stop doing it Jesus.
- 7:06Speaker 1: So we're talking about a few one hundred asylum seekers,
- 7:10Speaker 1: not tens of thousands. So why is Clara O'Neil facing
- 7:14Speaker 1: the chop.
- 7:15Speaker 2: I think she's very much seen as part of the
- 7:18Speaker 2: problem with While it may have been delegated to Andrew Giles,
- 7:22Speaker 2: the fact is she was the senior minister in those portfolios.
- 7:26Speaker 2: She should have been ensuring some of those mistakes weren't made.
- 7:30Speaker 2: She should have been asking more questions of her junior
- 7:32Speaker 2: minister about Direction ninety nine. Quite frankly, I think that
- 7:37Speaker 2: she's got off pretty lightly with public criticism because so
- 7:42Speaker 2: much of it was born by Andrew Giles.
- 7:45Speaker 1: O'Neil and Giles were jointly assigned to handle another migration headache,
- 7:49Speaker 1: a High Court decision to release scores of stateless detainees.
- 7:53Speaker 1: The High Court ruled they couldn't be held in custody indefinitely.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Some had been convicted of serious crimes. Since they're elief,
- 8:00Speaker 1: some have allegedly committed more violent offenses. But Greg, to
- 8:07Speaker 1: listen to Anthony Albanezi, you'd think Immigration and Border Protection
- 8:11Speaker 1: was not the dumpster fire it seems to be.
- 8:14Speaker 2: Then why did you move Andrew Giles from the portfolio?
- 8:18Speaker 4: Because there's a reshuffle.
- 8:20Speaker 5: What we had to do, what we had to do,
- 8:24Speaker 5: what we had to do. What you do when there's
- 8:26Speaker 5: a reshuffle is that there is a change that then
- 8:30Speaker 5: has a knock on effect.
- 8:32Speaker 1: In fact, the PM sounded pretty defensive in his Sunday
- 8:36Speaker 1: press conference.
- 8:37Speaker 4: We have been the most experienced incoming labor government in history.
- 8:43Speaker 4: We are considered, things are orderly, policy processes are right.
- 8:51Speaker 2: Well. I think it was a bit of a bizarre explanation.
- 8:55Speaker 2: I agree with you, Claire, because you think if you're
- 8:58Speaker 2: moving on ministers in high profile portfolios where there are
- 9:01Speaker 2: a lot of problems, he's moving them on and then saying, oh,
- 9:05Speaker 2: but they didn't do anything wrong. They did a great job,
- 9:07Speaker 2: so there's actually no explanation to the electorate as to
- 9:11Speaker 2: why it's happening, so it doesn't seem to pass the
- 9:14Speaker 2: pub test. Really, I think nearly all of it as hr.
- 9:17Speaker 2: I think the retirement of a couple of ministers gave
- 9:21Speaker 2: him the opportunity to make a couple of these key changes,
- 9:26Speaker 2: and I think it's more about the sales peach than
- 9:28Speaker 2: the policy.
- 9:29Speaker 1: Both O'Neill and Giles have been reappointed to new jobs.
- 9:33Speaker 1: Giles will take on Skills and Training and that portfolio
- 9:36Speaker 1: has been dumped from cabinet, so he'll be in the
- 9:39Speaker 1: outer ministry ouch. In Clara O'Neil's case, it's Homelessness and Housing.
- 9:46Speaker 1: She remains in cabinet, but it's a much less important role.
- 9:50Speaker 2: They did need more energy in housing. I think they're
- 9:53Speaker 2: facing a lot of pressure from both the Coalition and
- 9:56Speaker 2: the Greens on that portfolio, so I think they're hope
- 10:00Speaker 2: it will be more within like it does suit her more.
- 10:07Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, a new Minister in Indigenous
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- 10:27Speaker 1: after the break. Mullinderry McCarthy is a young ule woman
- 10:41Speaker 1: and former journalist, born in Katherine in the Northern Territory.
- 10:45Speaker 1: She's been a Territory MP and since twenty sixteen a Senator.
- 10:49Speaker 1: She's a passionate advocate and has spoken of how John
- 10:52Speaker 1: Howard's emergency intervention in remote communities, sparked by reports of
- 10:56Speaker 1: rampant child sex, offending and substance abuse, left her deeply saddened.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Now she's Minister for Indigenous Australians, taking the portfolio from
- 11:05Speaker 1: Linda Bernie who's retiring.
- 11:08Speaker 2: It's extremely tough after the mishandling of that Voice referendum.
- 11:14Speaker 1: The twenty twenty three referendum defeat Australians voted no to
- 11:18Speaker 1: enshrining an Aboriginal and Torres Strait island of Voice in
- 11:20Speaker 1: the Constitution left Labor promising to forge a new path
- 11:24Speaker 1: ahead towards reconciliation, but it's been light on detail so far.
- 11:31Speaker 2: Senator McCarthy I think will be in a very tough
- 11:34Speaker 2: spot because she'll have the indigenous leadership pushing for new architecture,
- 11:39Speaker 2: things like a legislated voice, which could have been done
- 11:42Speaker 2: without a referendum already, things like a Macart commission, making
- 11:46Speaker 2: movements on not just truth telling but treaty. However, I
- 11:51Speaker 2: think there's such little appetite to go down this path
- 11:54Speaker 2: within the government at the moment that I don't think
- 11:56Speaker 2: she'll be given a whole lot of lee way from
- 12:00Speaker 2: I'm the Prime Minister to do things other than the
- 12:03Speaker 2: sort of old fashioned things that governments have done with
- 12:06Speaker 2: Indigenous affairs, which is the practical stuff, education, crime and
- 12:12Speaker 2: these sorts of things. I'd be pretty staked if she
- 12:15Speaker 2: oversaw an ambitious new architecture for Indigenous Australians, but that
- 12:21Speaker 2: is going to be I think a key point of
- 12:24Speaker 2: tension between her and the Prime Minister.
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