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S6 E18 _ Captured_ The Chilling 911 Call That Brought Down Shawn Grate Part 1 · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Speaker 1: So with that, let me give you a little sneak
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  Speaker 1: peek of what we're going to be talking about tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight is going to be part one of three Captured,
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  Speaker 1: the Call that brought down Sean Great Now, if you're
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  Speaker 1: not familiar with this story, it's a doozy and of
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  Speaker 1: course it takes place in Ohio. All my friends are like,
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  Speaker 1: oh Hio's always talked about. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: Buffy today was like, I want to listen to a podcast.
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  Speaker 1: It was one of the first ones they listened to,
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  Speaker 1: and the guys were it was true come garage, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and they're from where I'm from. And she was like,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't even know anybody from Ohio. But I
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  Speaker 1: told mister Buffy, I would never go to Ohio because
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  Speaker 1: everybody dies there. And I was like, girl, that happened everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: But you're right, but you're right.
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  Speaker 2: But Ohio does come up in the news one it does.
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  Speaker 1: We have had quite a few serial killers. It's not great.
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  Speaker 1: It's not great. Hello on top X. I hope you're
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  Speaker 1: doing well. Good sir, I hope you're doing well. But
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a crazy, crazy case three parts.
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  Speaker 1: And while I was familiar with the case, I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: familiar with all the details, and the details were quite shocking.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't realize about his victims, particularly, so I am
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  Speaker 1: very excited to talk about it. But before we do,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about what we're drinking. And we'll start with you, Amy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm a why old child tonight because I'm I'm
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  Speaker 2: pulling out the propel water. Oh fancy, my stomach's a
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  Speaker 2: little too nervous about all of this. Tonight's I got
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  Speaker 2: you know. Of course I don't really drink anyway.
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  Speaker 1: That's true, And He's like, I'm usually on the other
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  Speaker 1: side and tonight I have to read words. Well, don't worry,
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  Speaker 1: I'm drinking for both of us. Tonight, I'm drinking. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: let me get my bottle astral tequila, which is one
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite tequilas. It's very good, goes sound smooth.
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  Speaker 1: Love it is. You can't tell by the bottle. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't drink that all today, Okay, it's been like a
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  Speaker 1: week and a half. Okay, before people start judging me.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm drinking that with pineapple juice and it's delicious
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  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of tequila in here. So what
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  Speaker 1: I can say, I'm a strong power. So you might
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  Speaker 1: have to hold up hold up the show tonight, Amy,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that would be interesting if I do.
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  Speaker 1: Do you love it too? Serve on? It's really goo
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  Speaker 1: good tequila, It really really is. It's good stuff. Hello, Pam, Hello, welcome.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well with that, let's get into tonight's case,
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  Speaker 1: shall we. So we're going to start from here, all right,
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  Speaker 1: in the pre dawn gray of September thirteenth, twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: And if you know anything about Ohio, you know our
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  Speaker 1: skies are gray all the time. I don't see the
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  Speaker 1: sun for months. The air in the bedroom of the
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  Speaker 1: house on three six three Covert Court in Ashland, Ohio
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  Speaker 1: is thick, smelling of stale sweat and the metallic tang
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  Speaker 1: of fear. For days, this room has been a king.
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  Speaker 1: The windows are curtains shut, ceiling out the world, leaving
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  Speaker 1: only the sound of heavy, rhythmic breathing.
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  Speaker 2: Jane lies there, her heart a frantic hammer against her ribs.
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  Speaker 2: She's spent hours categorizing every sound of this house, the
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  Speaker 2: way the floorboards near the bed groan like a warning,
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  Speaker 2: the way the air shift when he moves. She managed
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  Speaker 2: to do this the impossible by freeing herself from the
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  Speaker 2: ties that bound her. But being untied isn't the same
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  Speaker 2: as being free.
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  Speaker 1: Now, her eyes track the room in the dim light.
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  Speaker 1: There resting near him is his phone. Now it's a
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  Speaker 1: gambol with her life. To reach for it, she has
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  Speaker 1: to move through a minefield of creaky wood and discarded clutter.
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  Speaker 1: She knows the man has rigged the door to make noise.
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  Speaker 1: He's built a perimeter of sound to keep her trapped,
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  Speaker 1: even while he drifts in and out of sleep.
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  Speaker 2: She shifts agonizingly slow. Every inch feels like a mile.
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  Speaker 2: She waits for the rise and fall of his chest
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  Speaker 2: to steady before she moves again, Her fingers finely brushed
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  Speaker 2: the cold plastic of the phone. She doesn't run. She can't.
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  Speaker 2: The door is a barrier she hasn't figured out yet,
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  Speaker 2: and the floor is a snitch. She stands there, swallowed
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  Speaker 2: by the darkness of an abandoned house that should be empty,
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  Speaker 2: staring at the man who told her she wasn't leaving.
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  Speaker 1: And she presses the screen. The artificial glow hits her
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  Speaker 1: face like a spotlight, Blindingly bright in the gloom, She
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  Speaker 1: squints her thumb hovering over the keypad. She dials nine
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  Speaker 1: one one and presses the phone to her ear, covering
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  Speaker 1: the speaker with her entire hand to muffle the ringing.
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  Speaker 1: She turns her back to the bed, hunching her shoulders
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  Speaker 1: as if she could disappear into the wallpaper.
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  Speaker 3: By one one, would they addrest your emergent Dayton has
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  Speaker 3: it pot that is it? Or adopted like your name?
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  Speaker 3: I plaa you abducted you Sean dream, you get John Green?
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  Speaker 3: Sean Great? There's he at now sweet where he's sleeping
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  Speaker 3: at in the bedroom? So what bedroom? You have two
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  Speaker 3: houses right by the longer street and if the one
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  Speaker 3: of the good houses that you're at the longer beat No,
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm in bedroom with them.
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  Speaker 2: The space between them is nothing, just a few feet
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  Speaker 2: of air and a lifetime of terror. The dispatcher presses
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  Speaker 2: for more details, like what color is the house? She
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  Speaker 2: thinks it might be yellow, but she isn't sure.
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  Speaker 4: You need to get the yellow house than in an apartment?
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  Speaker 4: Get it the own the house? He thenybody actually lived
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  Speaker 4: there in con abandon you think Sean Great?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Beg t r A t E Yeah? Does he
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  Speaker 3: have a weapon?
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  Speaker 1: Got terrifying? It gives me to bumps listening to this.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh too. Jane describes the man who had
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  Speaker 1: spent the last few days dismantled, dismantling her sense of safety.
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  Speaker 1: He's tall, six foot one maybe six foot two, brown hair, white,
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  Speaker 1: and the dispatcher tells her to stay on the line.
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  Speaker 1: While her life hangs on the quality of a cell signal,
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  Speaker 1: waiting for the world to find her before he wakes up.
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  Speaker 1: The silence of the house is heavy, broken only by
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  Speaker 1: the low, steady breathing of the man in the bed.
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  Speaker 3: Tito fleeping. Yes, Where did he take you home? I
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  Speaker 3: mean was walking with You're walking with him? Or are
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  Speaker 3: you walking too? It's quick? I'm fully come up to man?
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  Speaker 3: Is that it?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know?
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  Speaker 3: I think so. Is there any way you can get
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  Speaker 3: out of the building? I don't know? How can?
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  Speaker 1: I think?
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes there's pauses in it so that the dispatcher looks
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  Speaker 2: for The dispatcher looks for an exit strategy. But Jane
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  Speaker 2: knows the geography of her prison and describes to her
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  Speaker 2: the physical and psychological trap Sean has built. The bedroom
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  Speaker 2: door is closed, rigged with a diy alarm system designed
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  Speaker 2: to announce any attempt to flight. At flight, it's a
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  Speaker 2: house of land mines. She mentions the bathroom. But to
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  Speaker 2: ask to use it is what it was it. To
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  Speaker 2: ask to use it invites something bad to happen to her.
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  Speaker 3: We have officers for sending love, not if you're worried.
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  Speaker 4: You don't have to talk and said, oh no, okay,
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  Speaker 4: did she need to hear if he's finding your lune.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Jane say. Jane stays on the line. She needs
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  Speaker 1: the voice on the other end. She needs to know
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  Speaker 1: the moment the world reaches her. She begins to map
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  Speaker 1: the house for the police, whispering the layout like a prayer.
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  Speaker 1: They are downstairs and there is a side door to
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  Speaker 1: the right of the house. On the left you enter
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  Speaker 1: into a kitchen and the bedroom. The room where she
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  Speaker 1: is currently trapped is right off of the kitchen.
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  Speaker 2: It's not plain.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine, We'll just go on to the next one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it didn't.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay, damn it, it's okay, just move on, Just
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  Speaker 1: read the next thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's we'll get you.
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  Speaker 2: The silence of the bedroom is suddenly punctured by a
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  Speaker 2: sound of the laser. I'm sorry the taser. Jane accidentally
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  Speaker 2: set it off, and Jane's blood runs cold. Her capture
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  Speaker 2: sat straight up in a groggy daze, not realizing Jane
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  Speaker 2: was no longer in the bed or on the phone.
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  Speaker 2: He laid back down and went back to sleep. Jane
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  Speaker 2: waited for a change in the rhythm of shan'sbrey breath
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  Speaker 2: before saying anything.
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  Speaker 5: Else, welcome on, I can put the phone up.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine how terrifying this is. I know, like
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  Speaker 1: my heart is beginning of my chest.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I know. I'm like, are you still there?
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  Speaker 2: Here?
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  Speaker 6: In her breathe, mm hmm, what are there any officers outside?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Now, for an agonizing stretch of time, there is nothing
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  Speaker 1: but the muffled sound of the room. Jane is it
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  Speaker 1: is a statue, her lungs burning as she tries not
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  Speaker 1: to breathe. Now, every second feels like a lifetime, as
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  Speaker 1: she waits to see if he's truly awake and if
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  Speaker 1: he's noticed her standing there with his lifeline in her hands.
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  Speaker 2: The officers have arrived in the area, but a neighborhood,
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  Speaker 2: In a neighborhood of abandoned houses. They are moving through
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  Speaker 2: a ghost tone. Jane tries to guide them through the
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  Speaker 2: through the phone, her voice a frantic whisper. She tells
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  Speaker 2: them to come through the side door, but to do
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  Speaker 2: it softly and gently. She knows that any loud noise
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  Speaker 2: will bring the monster in the bed fully to life.
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  Speaker 1: You got a fan in a chat already, amens, Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, isn't she? She is shut up Daniel go
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  Speaker 1: to bed now. The dispatcher tries to push her towards
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  Speaker 1: the door, and Jane is standing right by the bedroom door,
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  Speaker 1: But to reach the handle, she has to navigate a
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  Speaker 1: floor that squeaks right by his head. To move is
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  Speaker 1: basically announcing her escape from him.
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  Speaker 2: She looks at the windows, but they offer no hope.
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  Speaker 2: They are all curtained, shut, sealing her into this dim,
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  Speaker 2: riding box. The dispatcher urges her again to get out
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  Speaker 2: if she can, but Jane knows the physics of this house,
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  Speaker 2: she knows the strength of the man behind her. She
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  Speaker 2: won't move. She can't move until help, she asks for
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  Speaker 2: is standing right on the other side of that door.
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  Speaker 2: She waits, suspended by the dark, in the dark, caught
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  Speaker 2: between the squeaky floorboards of the sleeping predator, listening for
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  Speaker 2: the sound of a savior.
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  Speaker 1: Anw The rescue is feet away, but the house has
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  Speaker 1: one last trick to play. Jane tries to move, tries
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  Speaker 1: to find the exit, but the architecture of her prison
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  Speaker 1: is failing her. She tells the operator she's trying to
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  Speaker 1: get out of the bedroom, but there's a problem. The
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  Speaker 1: door has no knob. It's just a flat wooden barrier
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  Speaker 1: between her and the officer. She can hear moving three outside,
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  Speaker 1: and she hears their voices, but then the silence returns.
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  Speaker 3: I see cowe.
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  Speaker 2: She is so close, but she is still behind a
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  Speaker 2: door that won't give. Finally, the wood yields, and she
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  Speaker 2: slips out of the bedroom, leaving the sleeping monster behind,
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  Speaker 2: and stumbles into the kitchen. She makes it to the
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  Speaker 2: side door on the right hand side of the house,
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  Speaker 2: her hands fumbling for a way out, but the dead
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  Speaker 2: boat holds. It's locked. She's out of the room, but
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  Speaker 2: still in the cage. Through a small window, she sees
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  Speaker 2: the uniforms the cavalry.
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  Speaker 3: Is there a window there? Yeah, come back, she said.
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  Speaker 3: Hurry she said, to hurry up and come back.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me, goodness, the.
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  Speaker 3: Door block so the men will hands blocked? Take it out?
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  Speaker 3: Do you unlock the door at all?
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  Speaker 7: What is it?
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  Speaker 2: That dound?
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  Speaker 3: Sighting? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Now, the terror of the last few days culminates into
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  Speaker 1: a single, quiet moment of humanity. When the officers gain entry,
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  Speaker 1: they find Jane totally nude, trembling her body a map
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  Speaker 1: of the terror she's endured. Officer Cox moves quickly, his
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  Speaker 1: voice a steady anchor in the chaos surrounding her. He
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  Speaker 1: directs her to the bathroom, telling her to stay there
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  Speaker 1: to keep out of the line of fire while they
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  Speaker 1: moved toward the bedroom.
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  Speaker 2: And in the bedroom, Sean Gray is detained a pair
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  Speaker 2: of shorts thrown over him as he's led out into
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  Speaker 2: the cruiser. They sleeve the clothing tied to the mattress handles.
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  Speaker 2: It's the physical proof of the restraints Jane had described,
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  Speaker 2: the kind he used to keep her in place. On
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  Speaker 2: top of the refrigerator, they found the secondary weapon, the
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  Speaker 2: stunt gun.
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  Speaker 1: Now, as the investigators moved through the cramped space, the
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  Speaker 1: pile of evidence grows, each item a piece of a
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  Speaker 1: much larger, much darker puzzle. They find a canister of vasiline,
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  Speaker 1: another cell phone, brass knuckles, and a set of Mitsubishi keys.
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  Speaker 1: But then they find item that changes everything. Tucked away
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  Speaker 1: in that bedroom, they find a debit card, but the
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  Speaker 1: name on that card isn't Jane's doates. It belongs to
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  Speaker 1: Stacy Stanley, a woman who had been reported missing days earlier.
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  Speaker 2: As Jane has escorted to the police vehicle, wrapped in
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  Speaker 2: a blanket, and finally breathing the outside air. The police
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  Speaker 2: are beginning to realize that the house on Covert Court
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  Speaker 2: wasn't just a prison for one woman, it was a
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  Speaker 2: graveyard for others.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the tension in the house didn't break when the
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  Speaker 1: handcuffs clicked on or clicked shut on Sean grat The
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  Speaker 1: officer shifted from a rescue mission to a tactical sweep,
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  Speaker 1: moving through the rotting skeleton of the house. To ensure
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  Speaker 1: they were truly alone. They moved to the second floor,
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  Speaker 1: where the air is thinner, but the atmosphere is just
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  Speaker 1: as heavy. One bedroom door is locked tight, requiring tools
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  Speaker 1: to reach the frame, and when the wood finally gives out,
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  Speaker 1: the officers find another room staged for a nightmare. There's
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  Speaker 1: a sofa bed pulled out its frame, draped in makeshift restraints,
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  Speaker 1: strips of clothing tied to the metal, waiting for a victim.
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  Speaker 2: And in the basement, the door is rigged, requiring the
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  Speaker 2: officers to manipulate the lock with a screwdriver just to
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  Speaker 2: get it open. And as the door swings wide, the
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  Speaker 2: officers were met with a wall of scent. It's the unmistakable, sticky,
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  Speaker 2: sweet stench of decay.
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  Speaker 1: Now clouds of flies erupt from the darkness a black,
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  Speaker 1: buzzing veal bell that fills the stairwell in the beam
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  Speaker 1: of their flashlights. The basement looks like a dumping ground,
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  Speaker 1: a massive, tangled pile of trash and debris, and at
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  Speaker 1: first glance they didn't see a body. They just see
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  Speaker 1: the filth. But the smell tells a different story. The
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  Speaker 1: smell says that something is rotting beneath the surface.
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  Speaker 2: Officer Jim Coxs exits the house, the fresh Ohio air
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  Speaker 2: doing little to wash away a scent of the basement
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  Speaker 2: from his lungs. He pulls out the roll of bright
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  Speaker 2: yellow crime scene tape from his cruiser, wrapping the perimeter
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  Speaker 2: of the house, ceiling the secrets inside.
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  Speaker 1: Now, by the time the search warrant is signed and
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  Speaker 1: the Bureau of Criminal Investigation BCI arrives, the neighborhood is
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  Speaker 1: waking up and they have no idea that the abandoned
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  Speaker 1: house next to the laundry mat was the secret layer
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  Speaker 1: of a monster. Jane Doe was out, but for the
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  Speaker 1: others hidden in that house, the rescue had come far
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  Speaker 1: too late.
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  Speaker 2: An agent, stead Ed Stanley, a veteran crime scene investigator,
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  Speaker 2: began the grim task of documenting the rod. He moves
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  Speaker 2: through the upper floors, first, his camera flash illuminating the
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  Speaker 2: peeling paint and the dust dancing on the stale air.
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  Speaker 2: He works in his way toward a closet in one
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  Speaker 2: of the bedrooms, a space that looks like any other
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  Speaker 2: nook until he begins to clear the debris, and as
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  Speaker 2: he removes the layers of evidence, the first thing he
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  Speaker 2: sees is a foot.
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  Speaker 1: Is a pale, cold, and unmistakably human foot. As the
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  Speaker 1: closet is cleared, the full horror is revealed, a decomposing
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  Speaker 1: naked female body. The extremity is still bound tight by
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the same kind of makeshift restraints Jane Doe had described.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Stanley opens a box and finds a handmade sexual device,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: which we will definitely get into at one point in
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the series, but a very crude, disturbing construction of a
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: wooden pole, a sock, and two condoms.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Under the bed. The mundane sits side by side with
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: the monstrous, a bottle of lotion, a pair of women's underwear.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Every item is a violation. Every item is a piece
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: of evidence, marked, bagged and dropped into a brown paper
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: and below.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Then Stanley heads to the basement. The photos tell the
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: story of the descent. The stairs are narrow and the
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: walls damp, and he captures the pile of trash under
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the stairwell, a mountain of black bags that seem at
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: first like simple hoarding, But as Stanley adjusts his lens,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: he sees it reaching out from the middle of the
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: trash pile, as if in it's final frozen plea for help,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: is a human hand.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: The investigators began the agonizing process of unearthing what the
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: trash has meant to hide. They moved the bags one
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: by one, photographing every layer. They find a blanket, and
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: beneath it, lying directly on the cold concrete of the
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: basement floor, is a second woman's body. The body is
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: undressed from the waist down. Nearby they find a black
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: purse and other handmade sexual devices, identical in its crewe
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: design to the one found upstairs.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Now it became very apparent that the yellow house on
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Cover Court had become a factory of death, where Sean
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Gray lived, slept, and ate, all while the women he
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: had broken were tucked away in the closet and under
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the stairs.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is tough.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is, isn't it.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: When investigators were collecting evidence and loading the bodies of
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: two women into the Medical Examiner's van, Jane Doe sat
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: across from Detective Kim Major in a sterile, cold police
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: interview room. She tells Detective Major that she's twenty eight
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: years old, a woman of deep faith and quiet discipline,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: the kind of person who spends her free time learning
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Hebrew so she can read the Bible in its original
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: form or tongue sorry, or playing guitar during church services.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: And now she speaks to the detective. Jane's voice is soft,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: a jagged contrast to the violence she had just escaped.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: She describes a life built on firm boundaries. She paints,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: she studies, and she often attends lunch at the Ashland
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Salvation Army Ray and Joan Kroc Community Center. It was
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: there that she met Sean great Now, Jane, Sean wasn't
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: a monster. He was a friend. He was like an
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: older brother who told stupid jokes and seemed a bit immature.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: And they were a common sight around town, two friends
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: taking walks, playing back yamen or hitting tennis balls across
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the court.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: But Sean wanted more. He pushed for a relationship that
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: went beyond friendship, but Jane held her ground. Her faith
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: was her compass. She didn't believe in premarital sex, and
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: she didn't like to be alone with the opposite sex.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: She kept her door literally and figuratively closed. While Sean
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: had been to her apartment, he had never been inside.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: For a while, it seemed like he understood, he respected
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the line she drew in the sand.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Jane tells Detective Major about a walk they took into
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the woods where Sean led her to a fort he
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: had built. Because you know, he's a grown ass, forty
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: year old man who built sports in the woods. I
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: don't know, and it felt like a childhood adventure. When
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: they arrived, Sean dug into the earth and pulled out
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a box filled with rocks and geoats. He asked her
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: to keep them for him, a strange but yet heavy
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: token of trust, and so Jane took them home and
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: slid the box next to a couch, where the stones
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: eventually rolled underneath and were forgotten during her weekly vacuuming.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Then, about a week later, Sean showed up at her
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: door with a cut on his leg, claiming he'd been
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: injured while helping someone move, probably another lie. Even then,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Jane maintained her distance. She made sandwiches for both of them,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: but the boundaries remained. She ate his Sean ate his
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: meal outside on the landing while Jane ate hers inside.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Now, in Jane's mind, she was safe because she followed
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: her rules. She was cautious, she was respectful, and she
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: believed Sean was doing the same. She had no way
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: of knowing that the older brother she was sharing sandwiches
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: with was already living in a house of horrors. The
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: boundary Jane had spent the last several weeks building didn't
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: shatter all at once. Instead, it was dismantled piece by
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: piece on a Sunday afternoon in September.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: On September eleventh, twenty twenty six, began with the ordinary.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Jane needing cleaning supplies, so she and Sean walked to
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: the dollar tree at the Walmart Plaza, moving through the
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: world like any other pair of friends. They even ran
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: into a friend of Jane's, Tamara, who gave them a
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: ride back to Jane's apartment. It was a day of
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: errands in small talk, a kind of day that feels
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: safe because it's so unremarkable.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: And when they get back to her place, Sean mentioned
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: his mother had given him some clothes. Then he asked
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: her for something that felt natural in their friendship and
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: extra Bible religion was the glue of their bond. Jane
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: would quote Scripture to him and they would talk for
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: hours about faith and to Jane, Sean was a nice
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: guy who shared her values.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not so nice. When he suggested they walk
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: back to the yellow House on Covert Court, she couldn't
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: so he could drop something off. She didn't hesitate. It
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: was the second time she had ever been to his home.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Inside the house, Sean showed her a large bag of
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: clothes to fill the silence of the drafty, abandoned rooms.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Jane did what she always did. She opened her Bible
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: and began to read the word out loud, her soft
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: voice echoing against the bare, peeling walls.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Then the world shifted. Without a word, Sean reached out
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and snatched the Bible from her hands. Jane was taken
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: aback and asked him what he was doing, And in
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: that single moment, the older brother vanished. The nice guy
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: who told stupid jokes was gone, and in his place
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: was a stranger with eyes that Jeanne no longer recognized,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: and it was a substantial change, a total fracturing of
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: the man she thought she knew. Sean looked at her,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: the Holy Book now a discarded object in his grip,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: and delivered the sentence that would haunt Jane for the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: rest of her life. You're not going anywhere.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: The fort in the woods, the rock under the couch,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the sandwiches on the porch, it all collapsed in this moment.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Sean's mask didn't just slip, it was torn off, and
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: as Jane stood in that abandoned room, Sean told her
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: plainly that he was going to kill her. The man
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: who had listened to her quote scripture for months was
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: not the man holding was not the man holding her
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: life in his hands.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: And as Jane realized the man she trusted had vanished,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: she fought. She tried to push him away, to claw
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: her way back to the door, to the street and
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: to the light. But Sean was a wall of muscle,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five pounds of sudden, focused rage.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: And every time she fought, he hit harder. Eventually, his
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: hands fund her throat and He squeezed until the world
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: began to gray at the edges, until the fight left
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: her body, not because she wanted to give up, but
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: because she simply couldn't breathe. When he finally let go,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: he asked a single, chilling question, have you had enough now?
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: What followed over the next forty eight hours was basically
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: a deconstruction of a human being. Recognizing his strength was unmatchable,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Jane stopped resisting. She watched her closed hair as he
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: pulled at them, eventually stepping out of them herself, just
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: to preserve something, anything to wear, if she ever made
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: it out.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: The assaults were relentless. It was physical, it was sexual,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: and it was constant. Sean used his body to overpower
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: hers in every way imaginable, a cycle of violence that
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: repeated itself at least five times. He wasn't just looking
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: for a victim. He was looking for a doll he
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: could manipulate.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: He began to use the house itself as a weapon.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: He tied Jane's wrist and legs to the bedframe, forced
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: her into agonizing weird positions. At one point, he tied
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: a restraint around her neck, whispering a warning that felt
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: like a destence because if she moved, she would strangle herself.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: He treated her like a project. He gave her muscle relaxers,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: claiming they would ease the pain, but the pills only
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: served to keep her in a state of suffocating exhaustion.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: He would choke her until she went limp, only releasing
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: his grip when he felt her life nearly slip away.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Now, perhaps the most disturbing aspect of those two days
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: was the psychological grooming he did. Because Sean didn't just
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: want to hurt her, no, of course not, and he
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: wanted to care for her in a very twisted, predatory way.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: He applied makeup to her face, and he used vasilene
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: to mitigate the pain of the vario assaults he was inflicte. Okay,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: he just like hate your mind.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: He's getting mad.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I know, it's very infuriating. He's a fuck face in
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: a display of total terrifying ownership. Oh. He used a
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: razor to shape her, carving a heart into her pubic area,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: and it was a brand, a mark of his affection
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: etched into a woman he was simultaneously threatening to kill.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: He's a sick son of a bitch.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, I hate him. So much. I know that's for you, Terry,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: because I know you'd be saying more than that if
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: you were here. Throughout it all, Jane watched and waited.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: She watched him leave for hours while she remained bound.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: She watched him struggle with his own frustration. She watched
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: the man whose finger has used his fingers to pry
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: her mouth open, ignoring her as she vomited from the trauma.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: But in the middle of this living nightmare, Jane was
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: doing something Sean didn't realize she was surviving. She was
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: cataloging his habits, watching where he put his phone in,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: waiting for the one thing a predator like Sean Grat
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: always eventually does, and that's fall asleep.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Sean began a series of cruel hope building exercises, first
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: by telling Jane that he was going to let her go.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Even left the house, using her own keys to go
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: to her apartment, claiming he was getting things ready for
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: her to return, And in the kitchen, right beside the door,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: he moved all of her belongings she had on her.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: It was a calculated performance, a way to keep her
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: compliant by dangling the image of her front of her
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: front door in front of her.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Now Jane had lost all concept of time. The sun
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: rose and set somewhere outside those heavy curtains, but inside
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: the only clock was Sean's breathing. And on that second night,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Jane believes he had gotten high from smoking pot, and
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Sean then initiated another wave of sexual assaults.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: As he hovered over her, Sean began to speak about
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: his mission. He told her that he felt led by
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: God to come to her, to that specific house in Ashland,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: a chilling attempt to justify the graveyard he was building.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Now, the alarm on Sean's phone cut through the silence,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: but he didn't wake up. He just rolled over, drifting
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: back into a heavy drug field sleep. And this was
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the moment Jane began to move. She was still bound,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: her muscle stiff from the weird positions he had forced
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: her into. She began to creep down the mattress, her
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: heart thundering so loudly she was certain it would waken,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: and terror surged, and for a moment she retreated, lying
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: back down in the dark and praying with everything she
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: had left. But Jane managed to find the strength to
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: do the bravest thing she had ever done, and Once
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: she had his phone in her hands, she dialed those
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: three faithful numbers.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: The fluorescent lights of the University Hospital Samaritan Medical Center
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: were quite the contrast to the dim, rotting rooms of
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: the house in Covert Court. At ten twenty am, Jane
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Doe was brought indirectly from the police department, where for
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the next nine hours she would be focused of a meticulous,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: grueling process of documentation. Lisa Riley, a safe nurse It's
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: a sexual assault forensic examiner, met her at the door.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: These are specifically trained nurses who care for survivors while
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: also collecting forensic evidence that can be used in court
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: very important people, and once the evidence kit is opened,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: they can't leave it or the patient until the process
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: is complete, often staying by their side for two to
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: six hours. Jane's exam lasted over nine Wow.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Now she is immediately struck by the powerful scent of
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: lingering body odor clinging to Jane's skin, physical remnant of
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: the House of Horrors on Covert Court. Riley's role is
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: a delicate balance of compassion and forensic precision. She's there
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: to care for Jane, but also to document every detail,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: every injury, every piece of evidence that will help ensure
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Sean Gray never walks free again. Joining them is a
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: representative from Safe Haven, Its quiet presence in the room
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: meant to ensure that Jane never feels alone again.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Jane is trembling, rocking back and forth in a hospital bed,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: her eyes filled with a tear that hasn't yet faded.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Before the physical exam begins, Riley has to take her story,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: and Jane recounts the timeline from Sunday evening to Tuesday morning,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: a forty hour descent into hell.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: She tells Riley about the fists, about being struck in
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: the head until her vision blurred. She describes the sexual
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: assaults I vaginal, anal, and oral, all inflicted with a
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: cruelty that was both physically physical and psychological. She tells
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the nurse how Sean bit her finger and how he
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: gagged her with his own fingers, claiming he was training
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: her to meet his sods. I fucking hate this guy,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: so oh I hate him.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: As Riley begins the head to toe assessment, the tally
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: of Sean's violence is overwhelmingly apparent. Jane has a large
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: hematoma on the left side of her head, bruising on
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: her lips, and a jagged scratch across her neck, deep
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: purple marks on her throat where his hands had choked
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: the life out of her. Abrasions on her arms, legs,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: and ankles, and the burns left behind by the restraints.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Poor Jane just awful. Now. Inside the vaginal walls, Riley
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: finds raw abrasions and fluid evidence of the internal trauma
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Gene has suffered because she reported being drugged. Riley draws
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: blood and collects urine to find out whatever muscle relaxers
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Sean forced in her mouth. A protocol also dictates a
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: pregnancy test. When it comes back negative, they provide her
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: with planted b which is very standard. It is a
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: small mercy for a woman who is terrified that her
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: rapists might have left a permanent mark on her life side.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: It's transmit.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Uh fun fact. If you watched the trial, you can
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: hear a train in the background in Ohio. I thought
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: of you when I heard that.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Of course, we have a lot of right.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: A CT scan of Jane's head comes back negative for
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: intern bleeding, but the emotional damage is unimmeasurable. Riley stays
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: with her, letting her finally wash away the dirt of
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: the Yellow House. In that shower, Jane requests the raiser
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: and shaves away the heart that Sean had carved into
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: her pubic hair, erasing the brand that he had used
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: to claim her.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Now, by the time Jane is this discharged at seven
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: twenty five pm, she has been given medicine for the
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: nausea and her first real meal since Sunday. She is
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: physically broken, her body destined to be sore for weeks,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: but she was no longer a prisoner.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: As Jane is let out of the hospital, the forensic
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: kit containing the swabs, the blood work, and the documentation
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: of every bruise is handed over to law enforcement. The
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: evidence is undeniable, but as one story of survival reaches
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: its conclusion and the investigation at the house on Covert
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Court is just beginning to uncover the stories of those
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: those who didn't make it to a hospital.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Then now back at the medical Examiner's office, the bodies
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: found at the Yellow House were laid out on the
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: exam table. The first body found in the upstairs closet
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: was badly decomposed, but it was able to be determined
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: that she had died from asphyxiation. From the rope that
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: had tied her hands and neck together. A few days later,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: it was confirmed through dental records that the body belonged
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: to Elizabeth Liz Ann Griffith, who had been reported missing
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: on September seventh, twenty sixteen, just a week before. Jane
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Doe called nine one one.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Ah, she's a beautiful person.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is heartbreaking, you guys, This one's gonna be tough.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Just so you know, to understand the horror of what
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: was found in the house on Covert Court, you first
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: have to understand the light that was extinguished there. Among
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: the evidence and the decay, the investigators began to piece
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: together the life of a woman found in the upstairs
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: bedroom closet. Her name was Elizabeth grif Elizabeth Griffith, yes,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: though to anyone who loved her, she was simply Liz Now.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Born in Cleveland, Ohio, in nineteen eighty six, Liz was
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: a daughter, a sister, and a woman who found her
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: joy in the sensory world. She had a passion for
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: cooking that started early, leading her to the Ashland County
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Westolmes Career Center, and while her peers were focused on
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: traditional academics, Liz was immersed in culinary lessons, finding a
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: sense of purpose and the precision of a recipe and
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: the warmth of a shared meal.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Was a fixture in the Ashland community. She was the
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: girl who always had a bright smile ready, a woman
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: described by everyone from her sister Carrie to the fellow
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: to her fellow perishioners as bubbly and energetic. She was
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: the simple girl with the heart of a child, a
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: phrase her church family used not to diminish her, but
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: to describe her rare untainted innocence.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Liz also navigated a world that wasn't always
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: easy for her. She faced medical challenges that made some
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: things harder to grasp than they were for others. She
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: lived on her own, a testament to her determination to
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: be independent, as many people that have her conditions don't
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: always get the chance to do. But she was capable,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: and she did have a case manager to help her
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: navigate the complexity of day to day life. Oh, she
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: was nice, she was innocent. I'm sorry I got lost
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: looking at the pictures.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: I know me too, And she.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Does have a really beautiful smile. She was nice and
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: she was innocent, and she was exactly the kind of
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: person who would never suspect that a nice guy telling
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: stupid jokes at the CROC Center would be a predator.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: While her community saw her bubbly exterior and her bright smile,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Liz was navigating a mind that often felt like a battlefield.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Liz lived in several with several diagnoses, but one of
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: the hardest was paranoid schizophrenia and mania.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: For her, the world wasn't just a place of cooking
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: lessons in church pews. It was a place where voices
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: spoke from the shadows and visions blurred the like between
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: reality and fear. She often felt a profound spiritual weight,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: fearing that Jesus was trying to punish her for things
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: she could not control.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: To keep the darkness at bay, Liz clung to a
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: rigid routine. Consistent consistency was her ancher. She had a
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: case manager who was deeply involved in her life and
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: a paye who managed her monthly SSD checks to ensure
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: she had what she needed to live independently. But even
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: with that support, her journey was marked by moments of
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: extreme crisis.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Now there was a time when the voices became too much.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: In a moment of absolute desperation. Liz was hospitalized after
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: a horrific incident where she poured kerosene on her head
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: and set her hair on fire. It was a cry
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: for help for a woman whose mind was at war
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: with her body. When she was on her medication, the
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: suicidal thoughts receded, but the side effects brought a different
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: kind of struggle. The cocktails of pills interrupted her sleep patterns,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: leaving her awake and vulnerable in the earliest hours of
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: the morning. While the rest of Ashland slept, Liz was
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: often wide awake, grappling issues that normal society might find trivial,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: but to her it felt like insurmountable mountains. It was
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: usually after midnight that she would reach out to the
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: twenty four hour Crisis hotline, just searching for a human
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: voice to ground her when the world felt like it
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: was slipping away.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: This was the Liz Griffith that Sean Gray encountered, a
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: woman who was fiercely loyal and deeply kind, but also
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: someone who was profoundly vulnerable. She was a woman who
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: sought out connection in the middle of the night because
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: she couldn't sleep, A woman whose routine and trust made
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: her the perfect target for a man who knew exactly
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: how to exploit a heart like a child.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Now, the care surrounding Liz was a safety net woven
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: from years of professional support. At the center of that
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: net was Tina Schwartz, a therapist at apple Seed Community
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Mental Health who had become a constant in Liz's life
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: over the course of nearly two years.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Tina wasn't just a counselor, she was a lifeline. Her
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: role covered everything from individual therapy to crisis de escalation,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: a process that could range from helping Liz find a
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: pair of misplaces chose to assessing whether she needed immediate
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: hospitalation hospitalization for thoughts of self harm.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Maltina described Liz as very regimented. Her life was a
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: series of carefully placed stones. Appointments kept, routines, followed, calls made.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: It was this very consistency that made the events of
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: late summer twenty sixteen so definitely loud to those who
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: knew her.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: In mid August, the pattern broke. Liz missed an appointment,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: then another in early September. In the past, she might
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: have missed a session here or there, but never back
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: to back, never without a word, and the most chilling
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: indicator of the silence was the telephone. Liz being a
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: frequent caller to the Appleseed helpline, reaching out every other
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: The last time that line recorded her voice was August fifteenth,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: twenty sixteen.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Now inside the opposes of Apple Seed, Tina Schwartz and
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: the case manager sat across from one another, looking at
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: the calendar. It wasn't just a day or two anymore.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: It had been weeks. No one has semless, no one
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: had heard her voice on the midnight crisis line, and
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: the clinical concern was turning into a deeper, more visceral dread.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: The case manager picked up the phone to call Life Works,
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: another pillar of Liz's support system, hoping and praying she
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: had simply shifted her routine to a different building. That's
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: where they found Cindy Swagger swam sweet, I don't know.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Cindy if I slutted your name. Now.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Cindy was sent just a period a pear counselor at
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: the CROC Center in Life Works. She was Liz's anger
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: for seven years. They had been a steady presence in
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: each other's lives. Their contact varied depending on Lizz's needs.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes they spoke multiple times a day, other
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: times once a day, or even just a few times
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: a week. But when Liz needed support, Cindy showed up
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: and made herself available when she could. To Cindy, Liz
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't just a patient or a client. She was like
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: a younger sister to her.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Cindy recounted the last time she spoke to Liz on
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: August sixteenth, the day after the calls to the Appleseed
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: helpline stopped. Liz had sounded different in the days leading
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: up to the call. She had been giddy, a sharp
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: contrast to the anxiety that now hummed through the receiver.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: She told Cindy she really needed, she really needed to
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: talk about something. She seemed anxious and persistent, and Cindy
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: got the distinct impression that Liz had met someone, a
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: new presence in her life, and she was desperate for
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Cindy's approval, as if she wanted her two words worlds.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: To meet now. That day, Liz was near Cindy's home
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: at Dorl's Pizza when she called. Cindy had previously asked
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Liz to call ahead before coming over, knowing she might
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: not always be available on short notice, and because Liz
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: often struggled to find her house. On this occasion, Liz
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: appeared to be on her way without giving enough notice,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: and Cindy had a prior commitment and told her she
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: couldn't meet right then. And it was a routine moment,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: the kind of I'll call you later that feels insignific
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: at the time, but there was no later. That call,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: on August sixteenth would be the last time Cindy spoke
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: with her.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine, Oh, this makes me so sad. It's
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: for Tina Schwartz and the case manager. The professional concern
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: had shifted into a frantic physical search. Tina stood in
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: the hallway of Liz's apartment building, her hand hovering over
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: the door. No answer. She turned to a neighbor, hoping
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: for a mundane explanation, like a trip or maybe she
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: was staying with a relative, But the neighbor's response sena
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: chill through the hallway. She had been seen Liz in weeks.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: She and the other case manager began a desperate circuit
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: of Liz's life. They went to the laundry mat where
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: she did her washing, the croc center where she ate
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: her lunches, the apartment manager's office, her pastor at the church,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: and the paye who handled their money. But the result
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: was a total blackout. No one, not a single person
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: in her inner or outer circle, had seen the bubbly
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: girl with a bright smile.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: For weeks, Tina couldn't go inside Li's apartments herself, so
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: she asked the apartment manager to perform a welfare chech.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: She didn't just ask them to look for Elizabeth. She
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: asked them to look for the markers of her life,
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: like is their dirty laundry in the basket?
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: And is her little pink purse on the counter right?
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: When somebody is like so into routines. Yeah, it's those
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: things that cops you know, they're not gonna hone in
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: on because it's no no, But those are very big
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: markers that something is off if someone's like that, Like
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: for me, if they're like, oh, is their dirty laundry,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: it'd be like, yeah, it's everywhere, it always is. What
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: do you mean? This could be any day, but for her,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: that was a very big indicator. And the apartment manager
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: went in and the dirty laundry was still there, meaning
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth hadn't planned to be gone. But the little pink purse,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: the one she carried everywhere, the one that held her
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: few essential belongings, was missing. Elizabeth hadn't packed a suitcase,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: and she hadn't moved out. She hadn't stepped She had
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: stepped out for what she thought was a moment, carrying
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: her pink purse, and then the world had somehow swallowed
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: her whole.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: There was no longer any doubt. This wasn't a mental
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: health crisis or a lapse and routine. This was a disappearance.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: And as Tina Swartz picked up the phone to alert
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: the authorities, she had no way of knowing that Elizabeth's
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: pink purse was currently sitting in a house just blocks away,
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: a house for the line wasn't the only thing being
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: left her up now.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: On September seventh, twenty sixteen, the silence from Liz's apartment
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: was no longer just a concern for her therapist. It
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: was now a matter for the Ashland Police Department. Tina
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Schwartz reached out to Officer Cody Hine, a man who
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: knew Elizabeth well. In a small town like Ashland, someone
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: like Liz doesn't go unnoticed.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: I imagine she probably knew many of the officers, you know,
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: they probably just knew you knew of her, you know.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: She was a regular voice on the non emergency lines,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: calling not out of malice, but out of a need
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: for connection or in clarity. She called to report a
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: neighbor or simply to ask I heard it was going
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: to snow today, any chances the roads will be closed.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: But to the officers, she was light, innocent and a
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: fixture of the community.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: You know, usually when there's you know, people that are
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: you know, mentally handicapped as well as having like you know,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: when they're in it. She's not trying to hurt nobody.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: She doesn't understand, you know, and so a lot of
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: people had a lot of compassion, you know, for her
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: in the community. It sounds like which I thought was
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: really really beautiful and also, fuck you, Sean, how dare you?
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Joe?
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Dare you?
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Because of her medical vulnerabilities and her lack of any
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: criminal history, Liz was immediately listed as a missing endangered person.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: This wasn't a case of a woman walking around walking
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: away from her life. This was a crisis.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Now. Captain David Leigh took the lead, mobilizing twenty three
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: officers to scour this. The digital search, however, hit an
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: immediate wall when Captain Lay ordered a ping on Liza's phone.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: The data came back for the incorrect device, and so
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: the digital trail was cold before it even got started,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: and the investigation pivoted to the physical world. Police began
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: retracing her last nine steps. On August sixteenth, they found
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: her on a grainy CCTV footage, a solitary figure shopping
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: at the Aldi near Walmart and then standing at the
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: bus stop waiting for her ride home.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: A search warrant was executed on her apartment. Investigators found
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: the ALDI receipt inside her apartment. It was a haunting
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: piece of evidence because it proved one thing. She'd made
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: it home. She had put her groceries away. She had
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: been safe in her sanctuary before something or someone convinced
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: her to step back through that door with nothing but
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: her little pink purse.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Now, officers pored over her notebooks and list of phone
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: numbers looking for a name that didn't belong. They interviewed everyone, pastors, neighbors,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: and friends, and there were no words or clues as
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: to what could have happened to Liz. But during the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: canvas a name surface that hadn't been on their radar before,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: and that was the real name of Jane do Now.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Captain Lay noted the name and he planned to interview
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: her to see if she knew where their simple girl
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: with the heart of a child had gone. But he
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: never got the chance. Before he could reach out to
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Jane Doe, the nine one one call from the house
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: on Covid Court changed everything. The two investigations, one for
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: a missing woman and one for a kidnapped survivor, were
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: about to collide in the darkest way possible I know.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: The investigation into the house on Covert Court had already
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: uncovered one tragedy in the upstairs closet. The task of
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: identifying the woman under the basement steps fell into the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: corner Doctor Todd Barr sorry. He determined that the cause
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: of death was asphyxia, consistent with a sleeperhold, a manual strangulation,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: or the use of a soft ligature like the one
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: found tied to her neck.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Through fingerprints, the body was identified as Stacy Stanley, sometimes
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: known as Stacy Hicks. It was also confirmed by her
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: son Corey, who was shown photos of her jewelry and tattoo.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: A permanent mark on her skin that she had chosen
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: in life, now serving as her final signature in depth.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: As the identification was finalized, the reality of the yellow
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: House became undeniable. This wasn't a crime of passion or
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: a single moment of madness. This was a hunting ground.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Sean Gray had been operating in plain sight, using the
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: nice guy mask to lower the vulnerable, the kind, and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: the unlucky into his home.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Now. Stacy Stanley was forty three years old, a woman
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: defined not by her ending, but by the vibrant, loud
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: and loving life she led before she crossed paths with
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Sean grat Stacy was a creature of the eighties rock
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: and roll era. She loved big hair, spending hours perfecting
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: it until it matched her energy and her world was
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: painted and she hades a purple, her favorite color, me too, girl,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: and filled with the sounds of her own singing and dancing.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: I think I'd be friends with Stacy. Eighties a great
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: purple like come on.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: Right, There's so many things in common.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: She was a mother of two sons, Curtis and Corey,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: and a grandmother who lived for the joy of the
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: little things. To her son, Corey. She was a fantastic
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: cook and a wonderful person to be around. She loved
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: to entertain, filling her home in Greenwich, Greenwich, Ohio with
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: the smell of good food and the sound of laughter.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: But Stacy's story was also one of prasilience. For years,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: she had struggled with a heroin addiction, a battle that
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: had taken her through the doors of jails and treatment centers.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: But Stacy as a fighter, and by the summer of
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, she had turned her life around. She was
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: in recovery, a devoted mother and grandmother who had reclaimed
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: her future from the shadows of her past. And look
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: at that hair. I'm so sorry, right she did love
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: big hair. Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love every.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing. That's so cool. Sorry, I wasn't taken
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: back by that picture. I hadn't seen all of these before,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: But that's amazing. They weren't kidding. She loves our back air.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: She loved her big hair.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Yet it big hair, big energy, big smile. Now, she
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: worked so hard to become the best version of herself,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: only to be taken by a predator who thrived on
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: the very kindness she had worked so hard to preserve.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: The transition from an ordinary day to a life altering
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: tragedy often hangs on the smallest, most mundane decisions. For
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Stacy Stanley, September eighth, twenty sixteenth was a day of
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: errands and missed connections, a series of what ifs that
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: would haunt her family for years. Stacy had been in
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Ashland all day. She wasn't supposed to. She was supposed
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: to meet her son Cory for dinner at Applebee's in Sandusky,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: but Corey was exhausted after a long shift at work,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: and he canceled, only to change his plans a few
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: hours later and ended up meeting with his aunt, Stacy's sister.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Stacy was finishing her own evening. She stopped at
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: the nail salon near Walmart around six pm, but the technician, Sonny,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: was busy, so he told her to come back in
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: an hour, so Stacy went and did some shopping at Walmart.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: When she returned seven pm, she was the final customer
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: of the night. But as Stacy pulled away from the salon,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: her evening took a very deadly turn. Around eight thirty pm,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: She called Corey, her son. She had a flat tire
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: and had limped her car into the BP gas station
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: at the corner of Main and Union Street. Corey immediately
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: started working the phones to get her help, eventually reaching
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: a friend of a friend named Wayne Bright, who grabbed
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: his tools and headed to the station. When Wayne arrived
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: at the BP, Stacy wasn't alone. A man was already there,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: leaning over the car and talking to her. It was
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Sean Grat He had been walking past the station and
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: offered to help, though he didn't have the tools to
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: do the job.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: I hate him, Yes and Sean worked together on that
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: hot September night. Sean did most of the heavy lifting,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: cranking the jack swapping the tires, while Wayne provided the equipment.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: To anyone watching, it looked like a simple act of kindness.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: When the job was done, Wayne picked up his tools
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: and lift. At ten pm, Stacy called her son one
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: last time. The tire was fixed. She sounded relieved. She
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: told Corey that as a thank you for the help,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: she was going to give the nice guy who helped
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: her a quick ride home.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Now, Stacey pulled out of the BP station with Sean
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Gret in the passenger seat. She thought she was doing
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: a favor for a stranger who had helped her in
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: a pinch. She had no way of knowing she had
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: just invited the most dangerous man in Ashland into the
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: confined space of her car. Now, the ride home was
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: supposed to be just a few minutes. Instead, it was
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: the beginning of a silence that would last until the
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: police moved the trash in the basement of the house
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: on Codor Court.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: The silence of the following forty eight hours was a slow,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: building dread. By September seventeenth, Corey was at work, but
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: his mind was back at that BP station. He and
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Stacy talked multiple times every day. It was the heartbeat
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: of their relationship. When his phone remained dark all morning,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: he reached out to his brother Kurt. The answer was
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: the same nothing. Corey spent his shift texting and calling,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: watching the screen for those three typing dots that never appeared.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: As soon as he clocked out, the brothers headed straight
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: for Stacy's home in Greenwich.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: When they arrived, the house was dark, the car was gone,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: and they knocked, and they shouted, and finally they did
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: what any desperate sun would do, and they broke in.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Stacey was nowhere to be found, but her dogs were
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: still in their crates, hungry, distressed and waiting for their
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: owner who never came home. Oh my gosh, Oh look
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: how cute they are. And the ladders, Oh, they're so cute.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: All Stacy would never have left her dogs like that,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: and so to her sons, this was the ultimate red flag.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Their first thought was a car accident, a ditch somewhere
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: on the dark back roads between Ashland and Greenwich. They
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: weren't thinking about the nice guy at the gas station yet.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: They were just thinking about a hospital bed or a wreck.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: But Corey didn't wait. He went straight to the local
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: police department and filed a missing person report that would
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: eventually link his mother to the yellow house on Covert Court. Now.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: On September tenth, twenty sixteen, the missing report was filed
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: and a formal bolo beyond the lookout had been issued
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: for Stacy's vehicle. Before the Stanley family, the official clock
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: was moving too slowly. Stacy's father, Charles, and her sons
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Curtis and Corey became their own detectives. They retraced every
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: mile of the route between Greenwich and Ashland, they fanned
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: out a cross down town, clutching stacks of missing person flyers.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: Every face they passed was a potential witness, and every
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: alleyway was a polace to check. It was a desperate,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: grassroots effort. Now while they were pounding the pavement, they
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: crossed paths with Detective Brian Evans, who found the family activity,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: who found the family actively canvassing the streets. Charles Stanley
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: was haunted by the final phone call from Stacy to
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: her son Cory, the one where she was just blocks away,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: stranded with a flat tire and seemingly close to safety.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: But as the hours and days ticked by, a somewhat
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: bitter friction was beginning to grow between the family and
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: the authorities. The Stanley family felt a familiar, painful sting
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: that so many other families of missing feel, and that
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: the lifestyle bias because of Stacy's past struggles with heroin
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: and her age. They felt the police weren't treating her
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: disappearance with the urgency it deserved. To them, it felt
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: like the system saw a recovering added instead of a
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: mother and grandmother in peril.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Which happened so much. M HM, you guys talk about
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: it on the day, missing all the time. Now. The
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: police maintained they were following protocol, but for a father
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: like Charles Stanley, protocol doesn't mean much when your daughter
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: has vanished into thin air. The family continued to walk
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: the streets, staring at the Yellow House on Covert Court,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: without knowing the answer to their prayers, and their worst
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: nightmares were already inside. On September eleventh, three days after
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: the flat tire at the BP and the same day
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Sean abducted Jane Doe, Corey, his brother Curtis, and their
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: aunt drove back into Ashland, tracing the veins of the
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: city where their mother was last seen.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: They didn't find Stacy at the gas station, but as
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: they circled the blocks nearby, they saw Stacy's car sitting
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: behind I'm sorry, sitting abandoned on Ninth Street. In the
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: heat of the moment, the brothers reached the vehicle before
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: the police could establish a perimeter through the glass. The
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: red flags were everywhere welcome back.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: The driver's seat was pushed all the way back, positioned
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: for someone much taller than her. In the ash tray
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: sat cigarette butts of a brand she never smoked, and
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: to her family. The evidence was screaming that someone else
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: had been behind the wheel.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: When the trunk was opened, the mundane remnants of her
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: errands were still there, bags of mulch and a few bricks,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: but tucked away her things. But tucked away in her
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: things was a box of love roses. It was a
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: detail that would later link the car directly to the
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: house on Covert Court, where the same items would be
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: found scattered among Shan's belongings.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Then they looked at the floorboards, and there they found
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Stacy's driver's license for a woman who kept her life
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: in her wallet. Seeing that id this garden on the
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: floor was the final blow. Her phone, her life lying
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: to her sons was also left behind in the car.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Stacy hadn't walked away from this vehicle. She had been
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: taken from it, leaving her identity and her voice behind
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: in the shadows of Ninth Street.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: The investigation was now narrowing its focus on a few
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: square blocks of Ashland. Police began standard canvas of the neighborhood,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: moving door to door, asking neighbors if they had seen
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: the woman with the big hair. But, in a twist
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: of faith that would later haunt the department. They stopped
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: just short. They knocked on doors surrounding the vehicle, but
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: they did not knock on the door of the yellow
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: house where Stacy's body was currently hidden.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: However, someone had been watching. Joanna Smith lived on Ninth Street,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: right where the car had been abandoned. Late on the
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: ninth of September tenth, somewhere between ten pm and one am,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: she looked at her bedroom window and saw Stacy's car
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: pull up. And it didn't just stop. It sat there
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: for ten or fifteen minutes, the interior lights glowing in
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: the dark, and then finally a man stepped out.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: Joanna didn't know the man's name that night. She only
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: knew he didn't fit the car. It wasn't until days later,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: when a mugshot of Sean Gray was flashed across the
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: local news that the pieces clicked into place. The man
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: she saw walking away from Stacy's car was the same man,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: now being a cute used of a nightmare.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: The search for Stacy reached its breaking point on September thirteenth.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: The Stanley family was still out on the streets when
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: they noticed a sudden commotion near the local laundromat. Cop
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: cars were screaming towards a house on Covert Court. Were
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: travels fast in a town of twenty thousand people. Oh,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: I bet is that it does. And before the police
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: could even clear the perimeter, the family was there, gathered
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: outside the yellow house, watching as investigators in white suits
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: began to move in and out of the door.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: Corey was pulled aside by the officers. The conversation was
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: brief and devastating. They told him they had found bodies
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: in the house. They didn't use Stacy's name yet, though,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: because they couldn't. Instead, they held up a camera. They
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: showed Corey a single photograph of a tattoo.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: Huh oh makes me so sad. I know at that
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: moment the search ended. The what ifs about car accidents
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: or miss dinners vanished. Corey looked at the ink on
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: the skin in the photo and knew his mother wasn't
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: coming home. The woman who loves rock music and big
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: hair had been found in the one place that police
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: had it knocked. And that is where we are going
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: to leave the story for tonight. Part two will be
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: going into the entire interrogation of Sean grat and it
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: is It's something you guys don't want to miss that.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: It is Holly Wow, his background, the interrogation, and there's
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: other victims. So unfortunately this story doesn't end with those three.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: But before we go for tonight, Amy, you have some
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: thoughts about this. I know you were really passionate about
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: this case before we picked it up. You were like,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: I've read the book and everything, and I'm like, oh,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: my goodness, what Yeah, So what are some of your
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: thoughts about this? And then I'll share mine.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'll start out by saying, I fucking
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: hate Sean Gray. Oh that rhymes. Maybe I could put
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: it on a T shirt or something.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate great, love it.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: Love it. Cases like this are hard to sit with
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: because they force you to look at both the absolute
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: worst and the absolute strongest parts of humanity at the
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: same time. What Jane went through, Jane do my goodness right,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: what she went through is unimaginable. But the courage in
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: that moment reaching for that phone and making that call
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: didn't just save her life. It's stopped a predator. It
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: uncovered the truth, and it gave a voice to those
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: women who didn't get the chance to be heard. Yes,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: Liz and Stacy weren't just names in a case, they
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: were real women. And the truth is there are lizes
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: in stacy in all our lives. People who are vulnerable,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: people who trust, people who show up with kindness. Their
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: lives matter just as much, their stories matter just as much.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: And what makes this even more unsettling is how ordinary
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: it all looked. The nice guy, the everyday interactions that
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: seem harmless. It's a reminder that danger doesn't always come
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: with a warning sign. It often comes disguised as someone
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: you think you know. When we just finished the series
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: on Robert Hanson and we talked a lot about how
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: victims were labeled and how their lives were reduced to
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: high risk or vulnerable, as if somehow that makes them
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: easier to overlook. But the truth is those weren't choices
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: in a way the people like to assume uh they were.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: Those were circumstances. It was survival systems failing people over
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: and over again. And we see we are seeing that
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: same thing here vulnerability. Vulnerability isn't a flaw. It's something
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: that predators look for. Absolutely, it's something they exploit, and
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: too often it's the reason victims don't get the same
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: urgency the same attention and the same justice, and sadly
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: we aren't done hearing this case and knowing what comes
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: really pisses me off.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: It does.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: No one's life day, No one's life is worth less
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: because of their circumstances. No one deserves to be more
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: at risk because of where they are in life, and
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: those stories deserve to be told just as lovely, if
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: not louder. That's my sootbox for the night. And now
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: I'm all tierry.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: Well, this hottie in the chat says, who initially told
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: you about this cicico?
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: You sicko?
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: It was you, guys. No, the vulnerability of all of
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: the victims so far that we learned about. You know,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Jane Do is a very religious woman.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very very.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Religious, and perhaps that came along with some naivete but
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think she's in the wrong. I mean, she
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: put up boundaries, she felt them, and there was literally
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: nothing she could have done to change anything.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: And I hope you fricking liar liar pants, Yeah you
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: would have done anything. Absolutely is obsessed with obsessed with her.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah you're gonna hear some wild shit in art too, Okay, wowsers.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: But then Liz I I mean, it's it's horrible that
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: anything gets done to anyone, but people like her are
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: the most vulnerable people in society. You know, they don't
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: know what we all know. You know, they're so innocent
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: inside always, and then on top of you know, having
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: mental disabilities and then having schizophrenia on top of it.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: I cannot imagine what her life must have been like.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: But I like the fact that everyone talked about how
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: much of a light there was on her and her
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: beautiful smile, because that's what we should remember about Liz yep,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: is that her innocence. I mean, it is when you
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: put her disappearance in juxtaposition with Stacy's, you know, a
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: formal addict. Here's someone with a lot of disability that
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: the community knows. You know. They said she got like
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: twenty eight officers went looking for her. Yeah, we don't
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: know how many officers went looking for Stacy, and I
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: don't know, And I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: think everyone who has somebody missing in their life feels
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: like nobody's looking harder than exactly. And that's true. Yeah,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: you're gonna look the hardest for your loved one, and
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: so I personally don't know what Ashley did or didn't
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: do in this story, so I don't have an opinion
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: on that, but I understand they are feeling that way
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: because it does happen to so many people. But you know,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: she wouldn't have known either that Sean was a monster.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: And her sweet friend Christie. I hope she doesn't. Her
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: and Corey, Stacy's son, really, I just I hope that
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: they you know, they're the last ones to talk. They
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: had plan, you know. I hope they're not feeling any
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: guilt what happened, because you're not your fault.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: Monsters exist, No.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: But all the women in general, you know, some he knew,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: some he didn't. Literally, Stacy didn't even know this man,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: and she just had a flat tire in a small town.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Who would have thought literally nobody would have thought. I mean,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: I was a stranger in your car, trust me, all right,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: It's not that a taboo in circumstances like this here,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: it's just not I mean, Ashton has twenty thousand people,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: but that's that's still a freaking small town. Yeah, you
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: don't think they're serial killers running around?
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: No, she had no idea and she was just being
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: kind and it's just I hate this guy. He gets
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: so much worse, you guys, so much worse. And again
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: there's more victims that we haven't even talked about yet,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: So definitely stay tuned. Yeah for sure.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: I'm here sweating. I'm so pissed off for you.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: I know, I know this one, this one didn't have
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: me as worked up as as Hansen at the State
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: of Alaska, but it was a lot of meat.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's not that much difference between the two
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: as far as their targets.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I mean there is a difference, I know
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 7: what you mean, though, they people predators pick the you know,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 7: it's just like animal predators, what do they do.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: They go for the youngest and weakest in a herd.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: M hm.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: And unfortunately that's what human predators do as well, because
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: they're cowards. But anyway, yeah, well with that, let's wrap
• 1:26:37
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• 1:26:39
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• 1:27:01
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  Speaker 2: hadn't heard today's yet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you hadn't heard and I was like, guess, I'm
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  Speaker 1: like what. Yeah, we have a lot of fun. We
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  Speaker 1: do reenactments, not to tooot our own horns, but we have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun doing it. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: anybody likes us, but whatever, we like us and that's
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  Speaker 1: all that matters. Whatever, So you can join us tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: eleven am Eastern where we're watching what the Hearing the
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  Speaker 1: Clayton Eckers Injunction against Harassment Hearing and but we do
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  Speaker 1: it every Tuesday, Thursday and Friday eleven am Eastern, ten
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  Speaker 1: am Central, Bad Girls, Shianigains. You know it all right?
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything else you would like to say before
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  Speaker 1: we go and sign off? Thanks?
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  Speaker 2: Just thank you for having me on tonight with you.
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  Speaker 2: I surprisingly enjoyed this, but you did great. We'll see,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: This will be after the show for twenty minutes. You
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  Speaker 1: did great, Scot.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoyed being here and I just want to thank
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  Speaker 2: you all for being here with us, and take care
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  Speaker 2: of yourselves, check on your people and look out for
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  Speaker 2: anything amiss.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm. All right you guys, as always say, until next time,
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  Speaker 1: go forth and be amazing, all right, have a good
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  Speaker 1: night friends. Bye,