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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 143 | Answering Fan Questions on Draft Eve · Jags A.M.

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into Jags Am in the PM today. I'm Kindannie Stevens.
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  Speaker 1: We are very excited. It's draft. We are a little
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  Speaker 1: over twenty four hours away from the beginning the twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five NFL Draft. Ran Sexton is in Wisconsin. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get a live report for him a little bit
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  Speaker 1: later on in the show to see what's going on
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  Speaker 1: as the Jags get ready to make that fifth pick
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  Speaker 1: in the draft. Let's start out with our big things though, John,
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  Speaker 1: you're here with me today, run away as at this point,
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  Speaker 1: we've looked at the odds. John, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you're a betting man, but the casinos have Ashton genty
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  Speaker 1: as the most likely pick for the Jaguars. This is
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  Speaker 1: something you and I have been discussing. You've been talking
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  Speaker 1: about for weeks now. So is that confirmed? Are we
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  Speaker 1: sure about that? Or is that just what we think
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  Speaker 1: is gonna happen? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: My sure, I'm not sure on anything point. And anybody
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  Speaker 2: who says they are outside of Liam Cohen and James Glasstone,
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  Speaker 2: Tony Viselli and the cons, they're not. And even they
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  Speaker 2: don't know because they don't know how the draft board
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  Speaker 2: is gonna fall in front of them for weeks. This
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  Speaker 2: has been Mason Graham's spot for about six weeks. I've
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  Speaker 2: been saying, look, there's no you know, leaning toward Graham
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  Speaker 2: et Mason Graham being the defensive tackle from Michigan. This
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  Speaker 2: is pretty wide open. I kind of think if I
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  Speaker 2: was predicting, I would predict genty, but I wouldn't bet
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  Speaker 2: anybody's house on it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, no betting for John Then as for big thing
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  Speaker 1: number two, it's going to be trade off. Part of
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  Speaker 1: why this is so hard to predict is because there
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  Speaker 1: haven't been any trades in the first round leading up
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  Speaker 1: to this. This is the latest we've gotten in the
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  Speaker 1: modern draft era, with every team entering the first round
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  Speaker 1: with their original picked on. What does that say about
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  Speaker 1: this draft class? I know that there's kind of maybe
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  Speaker 1: three to five prospects people are really feel like they're
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  Speaker 1: sure about, and then kind of a middle ground there.
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  Speaker 1: So what is it saying about people not making a
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  Speaker 1: lot of moves at this point?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I wish I had a fear that I've been
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  Speaker 2: thinking about it, and I don't really have one, which
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  Speaker 2: doesn't make great for TV. I do know at the
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  Speaker 2: top teams usually wait if they're gonna deal for the
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  Speaker 2: number one pick, you know, or I should say, if
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna deal for the number one pick, you do
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  Speaker 2: it early. But the Titans clue don't want to trade out.
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  Speaker 2: It sort of tells me more about that there haven't
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  Speaker 2: been a lot of moves in the past leading up
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  Speaker 2: to this, and I think maybe teams might be leaning
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  Speaker 2: a little more toward trying to keep picks. Meaning sometimes
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  Speaker 2: you might have seen a trade last year involving a
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  Speaker 2: number one this year and it lingers into this. So
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  Speaker 2: it may be more philosophical about teams trying to hold
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  Speaker 2: on to their equity and not wanting to tip their
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  Speaker 2: hand too soon. Or maybe they're not sure with the
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  Speaker 2: nil stuff going on in college that they can predict
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  Speaker 2: who's coming out yet. It also may just be a
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  Speaker 2: one year fluke, which sometimes happens.
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  Speaker 1: And of course we can always some action on the
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  Speaker 1: actual day of the draft as well, so we'll keep
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  Speaker 1: an eye on things. Our final big thing today is
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  Speaker 1: going to be setting in the tone.
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  Speaker 2: John.
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  Speaker 1: We talked a lot about this new front office. This
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  Speaker 1: is their first draft class that they're going to be having,
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  Speaker 1: how important it is to the franchise, but also how
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  Speaker 1: much are we going to be able to take out
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  Speaker 1: of the moves here to kind of predict what this
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  Speaker 1: will be like going forward With James Gladstone as GM.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's fascinating. James Gladstone. I think at
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  Speaker 2: the pre draft luncheon a couple of weeks ago, talked
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  Speaker 2: about this and said, you know, yeah, with a number
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  Speaker 2: five pick, there is a thought that that person is
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  Speaker 2: going to be a front of the media guide type
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  Speaker 2: player as you go forward. Some people read a lot
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  Speaker 2: into that and said, well, are they going after a
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  Speaker 2: certain position with that? I don't think it necessarily indicates position.
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  Speaker 2: I think it indicates that this is a new regime
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  Speaker 2: and you want to get started right Beyond the fifth pick, though,
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  Speaker 2: I think this draft is important for this reason. James Gladstone,
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  Speaker 2: coming from the Rams, has a little different view and
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  Speaker 2: a little different philosophy about the entire draft. So I
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  Speaker 2: think once you get through Day three on Saturday and
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  Speaker 2: you look at the whole mosaic of this thing for
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  Speaker 2: the first time in a long time, I'm very interested
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  Speaker 2: to see what that whole class looks like and what
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  Speaker 2: it says about how he but by extension, the staff
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  Speaker 2: is going to pick players moving forward, because it's a
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  Speaker 2: different world than do ball. As they say, or as
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  Speaker 2: I say, as.
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  Speaker 1: John says, it's different world. In Dovall, we're very excited.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to have a live report coming up after
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  Speaker 1: the break from Green Bay as we.
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  Speaker 3: Get ready for the draft that kicks off tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Jag Am in the PM today, brought to you by
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  Speaker 1: Fresh from Florida. It is always in season. John Oder
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  Speaker 1: and I are here in the Miller Electric Center in
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  Speaker 1: Florida holding it down in Douvall. But we have a
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  Speaker 1: crew out in Green Bay, and unfortunately the Florida weather
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  Speaker 1: did not travel with that her. It's kind of rainy.
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  Speaker 1: So Brian Sexton's going to join us and let us
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  Speaker 1: know how things in Wisconsin are going. Brian, you look sad.
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  Speaker 1: You look a little sad that you're not in ployant
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I was just thinking.
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  Speaker 4: I was thinking that instead of Green Bay, we should
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  Speaker 4: have done this in Tampa Bay and I could be
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  Speaker 4: standing with my feet in the surf and the sand
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  Speaker 4: on Saint Pete.
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  Speaker 2: Beach to do this.
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  Speaker 4: In all seriousness, the people in Northern Wisconsin are very
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  Speaker 4: proud to have the NFL Draft here. This is a
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  Speaker 4: very if you've been to Green Bay, you understand a
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  Speaker 4: very small market. There's not a lot of infrastructure, so
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  Speaker 4: there are people spread out between here and Milwaukee. They
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  Speaker 4: have jumped through hoops kind of like some of the
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  Speaker 4: old school Jags fans in Jacksonville. People might remember what
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  Speaker 4: we had to do to have Super Bowl thirty nine
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  Speaker 4: in Jacksonville twenty years ago with the cruise ships and
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  Speaker 4: the tents for restaurants. They're kind of doing the exact
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  Speaker 4: same thing. Of course, they have the Crown Jewel, one
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  Speaker 4: of the most historical sites in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 4: They've got lambeau Field, and we see Title Town everywhere
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  Speaker 4: and interesting side note, we're staying in Title Town, which
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  Speaker 4: is sort of an office park, right. There's restaurants, there's retail,
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  Speaker 4: there's literally office buildings and condos, and you can kind
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  Speaker 4: of see the vision for what the cons want to
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  Speaker 4: do around the stadium in Jacksonville, kind of like they've
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  Speaker 4: done in Foxborough where you hail from, and what the
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  Speaker 4: Craft family did with Patriot Place. So it's kind of
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  Speaker 4: an interesting mix. And of course, when you're in Green Bay,
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  Speaker 4: the history is just in front of you at all times.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely gonna be a cool venue for the draft. Brian,
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  Speaker 1: some prospects. There's some events going on right now. We
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  Speaker 1: know that most of the predicted top five picks are
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  Speaker 1: going to be in Green Bay, so that's exciting. What
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  Speaker 1: have you seen so far and what's going on the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the day and tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we were out on the play sixty field where
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  Speaker 4: they do an event with the prospects and local kids
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  Speaker 4: and special Olympians, and so I had a chance to
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  Speaker 4: run down Travis. Hunter asked him, and you'll see this later,
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  Speaker 4: asked him corner wide receiver. He just smiled and said both.
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  Speaker 4: I said, you're sticking with that one? He goes, why
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't I? Andre Carter smiled when I brought up Breton
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  Speaker 4: Strange and talked a little bit about Penn State and
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  Speaker 4: how it got him ready to be a pro A
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  Speaker 4: great conversation with Ashton Genty said that he was well.
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  Speaker 4: When I said, what have you heard from Jacksonville, he
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  Speaker 4: smiled and said duve all and talked a little bit
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  Speaker 4: about being compared to Maurice Jones Drew and then I
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  Speaker 4: asked Tat McMillan, the wide receiver from Arizona, about Jacksonville
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  Speaker 4: and what he had heard, and well, he had a
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  Speaker 4: great answer. He said, has anybody heard from Jacksonville? Did
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  Speaker 4: anybody talk to Jacksonville? Of course, famously, we know the
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars didn't do those thirty or thirty interviews, and it
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  Speaker 4: made it very interesting. Everyone got a good laugh out
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  Speaker 4: of that. But he did mention that he had talked
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  Speaker 4: to them at the combine. He understood the situation with
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  Speaker 4: Liam Cohen, the comparisons to Mike Evans Brian Thomas Junior
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  Speaker 4: on the other side. So we got a chance to
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  Speaker 4: run some of them down. And of course we also
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  Speaker 4: talked to Mason Graham, who talked a little bit about
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  Speaker 4: those two outside Russ and what it would mean for him.
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  Speaker 4: He's an interesting body style. He's not very tall, but
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  Speaker 4: man is he wide and he's got the biggest forearms
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  Speaker 4: on any player I think I have ever seen, just
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  Speaker 4: massive arms. He was a wrestler in California growing up
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  Speaker 4: in high school and you could definitely see it in
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  Speaker 4: his forearms, in his hands.
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  Speaker 1: Brian, we were just talking, right. I was talking to
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  Speaker 1: John about how there's been no trades thus far. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: has their original first round pick, which is kind of unusual.
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  Speaker 1: Usually somebody's made a move by this point. But have
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  Speaker 1: you heard any has there any rumblings up there? Does
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  Speaker 1: everybody feel like maybe we'll just figure it out on
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  Speaker 1: draft bite?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I talked to Daniel Jeremiah and Charles Davis from
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  Speaker 4: the NFL Network, and they think this is a great
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  Speaker 4: draft to build a roster front. There are lots of
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  Speaker 4: potential starters, there are lots of potential roster fillers, but
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  Speaker 4: there's not a lot of stars. As we know. There
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  Speaker 4: are three elite players everybody's in on Andre Carter, Travis Hunter,
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  Speaker 4: and Ashton Genty, But it's not a roster pardon me.
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  Speaker 4: He's not a draft that is loaded with star players
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  Speaker 4: from the top of the first round on. So I
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  Speaker 4: think that's why you haven't seen that many trades. Teams
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  Speaker 4: are looking at the value of the picks, as John
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  Speaker 4: alluded to in the A block, and they want to
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  Speaker 4: hold onto those picks, and they're from pick nine to
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  Speaker 4: probably pick ninety nine. It's the flavor that you like, right,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, are you're looking for a tall receiver, Are
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  Speaker 4: you're looking for a short, powerful defensive tackle. What fits
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  Speaker 4: your offensive and defensive schemes? What fits the style of
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  Speaker 4: player and the culture that you've got in the building.
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  Speaker 4: And there's just not a lot of differentiation there. Not
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  Speaker 4: to say that it's not a good draft, but it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't have enough star power to draw people into giving
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  Speaker 4: up good quality picks for guys that will be starters
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  Speaker 4: for them over time to move up and grab a
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  Speaker 4: player that doesn't have that.
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  Speaker 1: Brian, what do you know about Draft night? How's it
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  Speaker 1: set up? Is it going to be on the field
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  Speaker 1: at Lamber or what are we going to visually be
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  Speaker 1: seeing tomorrow?
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  Speaker 4: You know, we were headed over to the Atrium to
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  Speaker 4: to go on that tour when the rain broke and
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  Speaker 4: we went running for the car. So I don't know
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna go. You know, listen on Draft night they
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  Speaker 4: keep us in a media room far away. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: this thing is it's an interesting dynamic of the way
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  Speaker 4: they've set it up with sponsors and prospects and fans.
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  Speaker 4: So we haven't had a chance to see it.
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  Speaker 3: I do know this.
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  Speaker 4: There is a stage set up in the parking lot.
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  Speaker 4: On the other side you can see Lambeau Field. On
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  Speaker 4: the other side is where the stage is set up
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  Speaker 4: like it was in Detroit last year in Kansas City
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  Speaker 4: and in Vegas. So that's where the big scene will come.
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  Speaker 4: In the parking lot of lambeau Field, you know where
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  Speaker 4: the rest of the show is. Well, we're gonna have
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  Speaker 4: to go sneak around and find our way in. Every
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  Speaker 4: year we managed to get where we're not supposed to be,
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  Speaker 4: So hopefully by the time I join you tomorrow night,
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  Speaker 4: we'll have seen things and done things that most people
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  Speaker 4: don't get to do.
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  Speaker 1: Sneaky, sneaky. All right, before I let you go, what's
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  Speaker 1: your prediction. Who do you think they're gonna take in
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  Speaker 1: the first round.
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  Speaker 4: I still think it's an offensive player, and I think
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  Speaker 4: if they stay at five genty makes the most sense.
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  Speaker 4: And I think if they back up, if someone's willing
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  Speaker 4: to give them something to come up, I think Ted McMillan.
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  Speaker 2: Makes a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 4: Somewhere nine, ten to eleven.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's definitely a possibility. Thanks, Brian, we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: to you again soon.
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  Speaker 4: You got to have a great show.
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  Speaker 1: That it's our live report from Wisconsin. We are happy
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  Speaker 1: to be in Florida after looking at that weather, but
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good one. We'll do our predictions
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  Speaker 1: a little bit later on, but yeah, we'll check back
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  Speaker 1: in with you. Let's stay with us.
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  Speaker 1: it for today. Ozone is the answer it is. I
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to our first Ozone question for you. This
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  Speaker 1: explains a little bit, helps helps us go into things.
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  Speaker 1: Michael from Michael from Arlington's As I know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: get paid the big money to be a general manager,
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  Speaker 1: but if they pick Ashton genty, I have no more
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  Speaker 1: faith in the leadership. Nothing against Ashton, but there's no
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  Speaker 1: value at number five for him on a team with
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  Speaker 1: as many needs as we have. Try and try and
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  Speaker 1: break it down for.
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  Speaker 2: Me, Well, it might take more time than this show has.
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  Speaker 2: But but I think because so many people watch all
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  Speaker 2: the draft stuff and they hear people talk about positional value, right,
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  Speaker 2: And there's been such a trend and I've leave in
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  Speaker 2: in positional value because you have to and positional value.
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  Speaker 2: At the top of the draft is offensive line, and
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  Speaker 2: it's quarterback. They don't need a quarterback defensive line. So
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  Speaker 2: there's been sort of a thing, Well, if the Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: are building up their line, they have all these needs,
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  Speaker 2: then they should draft a offensive lineman or a defensive
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  Speaker 2: tackle or quation. All the time, why don't they draft
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  Speaker 2: a position. The problem with the draft and thinking of
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  Speaker 2: it that way is you can't think of the draft
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  Speaker 2: as we're going to go draft a offensive lineman. It's
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  Speaker 2: which offensive linemen are you bringing into your building? At
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  Speaker 2: some point, the actual guy walks through the door and
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  Speaker 2: he's the player you got. In this case, I would
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  Speaker 2: love and I think they would too. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: if there was an offensive lineman that they loved or
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  Speaker 2: a defensive lineman that they loved, and by and by loved,
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  Speaker 2: I mean if they thought that it was a guy
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  Speaker 2: who was going to the Hall of fame or had
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  Speaker 2: those traits. If it's Genty, and I don't know who
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be, but if it's Genty, the reason
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  Speaker 2: they would take him is because his value is so
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  Speaker 2: much higher than the offensive line, where the defensive lineman
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. And at some point you want greatness on
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  Speaker 2: your team. So I don't know who they're going to pick,
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  Speaker 2: but if they pick Genty, or if they if they
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  Speaker 2: pick Travis Hunter, whoever they pick, it will be because
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  Speaker 2: they think he has the most great traits and the
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  Speaker 2: ability to impact everything much more. They would like more guys.
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  Speaker 2: What did BTJ feel like last year when he played?
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  Speaker 2: You felt like greatness? They would like that as opposed
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  Speaker 2: to really really good and solid. They feel like they
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  Speaker 2: need greatness on this team.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's hard to turn down because if he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be what people predict him to be, that's
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  Speaker 1: pretty hard to pass along.
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  Speaker 2: And that's gonna be the fundamental reason everybody's going to ask, well,
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  Speaker 2: why did they do this? Cut through everything else? Whoever
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  Speaker 2: they pick at five, it's because they think that he's
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  Speaker 2: that guy more than the others.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's go to a scooter from Saint Augustine. He's
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  Speaker 1: talking a little bit about last year's draft, So he says,
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  Speaker 1: Mason Smith and Jordan Jefferson were drafted in the second
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  Speaker 1: fourth round last year. Seems like the draft and development
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  Speaker 1: should not be looking for another interior defensive lineman.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is sort of a Mason a Mason
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  Speaker 2: Graham oriented question. I think every time you see Mason
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  Speaker 2: Graham projected at the top, which has been a lot,
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  Speaker 2: I get questions, well, why would they take him? If
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  Speaker 2: you've already got Mason Smith, you already got Jordan Jefferson,
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  Speaker 2: you're moving Armstead in again. I think the fundamental thing
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  Speaker 2: that's hard to talk to people about the draft sometimes
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  Speaker 2: is so many analysts and so many fans want to
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  Speaker 2: talk about, well, what do they need? Well, if you
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  Speaker 2: look at the depth chart, they probably don't need a
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  Speaker 2: devensive tackle. The reason you would draft Mason Graham the
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  Speaker 2: same reason you would draft Gente. Do you think this
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  Speaker 2: is greatness you're bringing in? You know, and you're not
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  Speaker 2: drafting on your depth chart for twenty twenty five in
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  Speaker 2: the first round. You want to be drafting does this
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  Speaker 2: guy become a pillar of our franchise for the next
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  Speaker 2: X number of years? So when thinking about the draft
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  Speaker 2: as much as you can take, try to take what
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  Speaker 2: do they need in the short term out of it
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  Speaker 2: and think how can we get our roster to be great.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: The good teams draft in that, you know, the Baltimore's
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: of the world, try to draft more toward that than
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: their short term need.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I feel like we talked a lot about this last year, John,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: where it's like some of the teams we play, they
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: have those great players where if things are going wrong
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: or even if they're going well, it's like they are
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: dependable to a fault and if you need to put
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: it on their back, you can do that. And the
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Jags just haven't had that when they needed it.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: I always kind of go back to the Philly game
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  Speaker 2: last year, right, you know, Yeah, Philly won the Super Bowl.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: The Jargons a four and thirteen. In that game, you
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: didn't feel a huge difference in flow. JAS had a
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: chance to win at the end. To me, when I
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: think about that game, I think about Barkley flying backward
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: over Jarian. There are other plays he made though Jalen
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Hurts and DeVante Smith made a huge play in that
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: play that was above the x's and o's. Right now,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior is there above the x's and o's guy,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: so it felt I don't cover Phillies. I don't know
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: the death of their roster. A lot of special in
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: some spots in that lineup. I feel like the Jaguars
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: want to come out of this draft with more special.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's go to Jay Hooks from Orange Park, says Ozone.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I loved the Tony interview. Great work. Do you expect
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: big Bo to be in the draft room for the
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: entire draft? My understanding is he doesn't deal with personnel decisions.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Will he just be an observer or will he have input?
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Well, he's going to be there, and would I would
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: project Bisselli's influence to be very much along the lines
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: of offering input when appropriate. Is he gonna be in
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: the draft room making the final call, banging on the
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: table telling Gladstone we're picking this guy. I know he's
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: going to be in the world, and as he has
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: said many times since he got the job, he feels
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: like his job is to help everybody else succeed. At
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: some point during these discussions, I can picture us all
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: kind of sitting around Tony and or James and Liam
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: talking talk talk talk Talk talk, bo. What do you
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: think in input when appropriate? And I think that will
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: be different picks, different moments, big picture, but he won't
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: be overbearing and banging the table and saying, James, you
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: can't do this. That's not his role.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: They're gonna be exciting to see this new dynamic. We
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: obviously have some great access now with The Hunt behind
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: the scenes, so we'll have cameras in there and we'll
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: kind of get to see how things are put together
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: in the latest edition of The Hunt in a couple
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: of weeks. All right, One more final question for you,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: O Zones Tim from Jack How many NFL drafts have
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: you covered?
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Too many?
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Many?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: No, this will be thirty one. I guess the first
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: one was ninety five. Well, I covered a couple for
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: the Times Union where I was sort of the auxiliary guy,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: which was going out to a college player's house. I
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: actually went to Edgar Bennett's house he's now wide receiver
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: for the draft on his draft day when he was
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: playing for FSU. So I did a couple of tangently
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: like that. But this will be my thirty first with
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: the NFL in this capacity. I covered Tony's first draft
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: as a player went out to Colorado to do a
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: story in his family after he got drafted. I'm now
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: covering his first as a executive vice president. All of
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: which means I'm old.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: That a little full circle moment.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Well it's regrettably it means I'm old.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I would say wise learned a scholar.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Well, you're a nice person.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I do what I can, all right, say, Well, this
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: will give you our predictions for who the Drags are
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: going to pick in the first round coming about the break.
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  Speaker 1: which I will be hosting. John is very sad he
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: can't be at Lemon Bar. I'll bring you back a
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: my tie or a hurricane, whatever you want. But that's
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: gonna start at seven tomorrow. If you want to go
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: head out to the beach and check that out, that'll
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: be fun. We have some player panels, some prizes, all
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: that stuff, and then we'll stream the draft out there
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: as well, so you can check that out. And John,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be here though, working working.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Hard in the bowels of the NBC.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: You're not You're not gonna break into the draft room
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: with Tony.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: No, we're not breaking in the draft room. I uh.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: The draft is a time to know where you should
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: be and I know where I should be, all right.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna have tons of coverage though, because you'll
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: be here happy hours at four tomorrow with JP and
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: then also some pre show stuff. John, you'll be involved
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: with that at seven point thirty here before the draft
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: kicks off, and then also post pick as well, will
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: have some analysis once we finally know who it's gonna be.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's you know, it's it's a busy time.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: But I will say, in ten or fifteen years of
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: being around this, we're now at the point of at
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Jaguar's meeting Jaguars dot Com where I don't want to
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: say down to a science because I don't want to
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: jinx it. But it's it's really good coverage throughout the
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: weekend for this environment.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Very cool, all right, John, If you had to guess
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: who do you think they're gonna go with? Or what
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna do in the first round.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I would love them to get Abdul Carter the Edge
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: from Penn State. I don't think that. I think they
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: will have to trade up to get him, and I'm
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: not sure that the price to go get him will
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: be worth it for them to try to do it.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: So if they are at five, which I expect him
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: to be, then I'll go with Ashton Genty. It feels
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: like they are a they need high end, talented difference makers.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: How many times last year, Kay, did we say that
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: they just didn't make the big play at the key moment.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: He feels like a big play at a key moment,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: guy out of the box. And not only that, feels
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: like I don't think Travis Hunt will be there at five.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think Abdel Quarterbi there at five. If you're
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: looking for the for the most special, he's going to
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: be the most special guy.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Buy definitely special. I'm not exactly sure. I feel going
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: in just from who we've talked to recently that with
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: James Gladstone, something unexpected is going to happen. I don't
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: know in what regard whether that's a trade. I think
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the offensive offense is the way they're going to go
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: in the in the first round. So whether that's Ashton
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Genty who's available at five, if they trade back and
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: maybe get technic villain to kind of go along with
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior and open things up, that's possibility. But
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: we just predict things. We'll have to wait and see
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: officially until tomorrow.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: And I would implore people, and I know this will
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: be spitting into the wind a little bit. Uh, whatever
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: pick they make a five, if it's not offensive defensive line,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: this is not an indicator that they don't consider those
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: areas important. I've gotten many questions like that, Well, if
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: the line's so darn important, why don't they just take
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: the best lineman and go with it. Try to keep
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: in mind that top five they're going for the most
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: special player in the draft. In theory, you've only got
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: so many shots inside that group, meaning you don't need
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: to pick in the top five again, so you need
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: to go get special if you're in that category.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Best player of Bill. All right, we have tons of
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: coverage for you the rest of the week, so stick
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: with us. Thanks, thank you for joining us on JAGXAM,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: and we'll see you enjoy the draft