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Jeff Legwold joins Moser, Lombardi and Kane 6-5-25 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: by Jeff Legwald.
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  Speaker 5: Hello, Leggy, are the gone fellas.
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  Speaker 3: Before we get into conversation, leg I gotta say something.
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  Speaker 3: During the last time out. You understand Moser had the
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  Speaker 3: goal to ask me if I wanted to play golf
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  Speaker 3: in a tournament in August. After all, we've gone through
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  Speaker 3: this point. Sorry, Leggy, completely off topic. We'll get to
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  Speaker 3: you in a second. You're just gonna have to hold off,
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  Speaker 3: can you. I just want you to consume that information.
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  Speaker 3: He should have given it leg a couple of He
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  Speaker 3: just had the goal that asked me to play in
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  Speaker 3: a golf tournament in August after what he just did
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  Speaker 3: to us. So just eat that for a while. Hi, Leggy,
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  Speaker 3: how you doing, buddy?
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  Speaker 5: I'm good, Leggy.
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  Speaker 1: One thing I wanted to ask you, just kind of
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  Speaker 1: out of the gates.
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  Speaker 4: I know that JK.
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  Speaker 1: Dobbins, he was in for a visit. I don't see
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  Speaker 1: any downside to adding him to the roster. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think the hold up with him though? Is more money?
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  Speaker 1: And teams are pushing back thinking, well, you've had injury trouble, Like,
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  Speaker 1: what's the story of him still being available?
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  Speaker 5: Well, usually it's just what you said.
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  Speaker 2: If a free agent's available at this point, he and
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  Speaker 2: his reps aren't willing to come off their number and
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  Speaker 2: no team has reached their number or they'd be signed.
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  Speaker 2: You know, sometimes a guy figures I want the best
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  Speaker 2: money for the best team I can get, Like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe JK. Dobbins could have got more money from somebody
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  Speaker 2: who isn't considered sort of in the playoff mix, and
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  Speaker 2: you don't want that at this point. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: I you know, I get it in some ways, but
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  Speaker 2: I also I see Javonte Williams and this player. So
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  Speaker 2: you know, to me, it's, uh, you trade it up
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  Speaker 2: to take a back in the draft, and now you're
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  Speaker 2: going to bring in a guy who essentially at this
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  Speaker 2: point in his career, plays the same sort of way
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  Speaker 2: and is almost the exact same size as Javonte Williams.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think Dobbins is, you know, five ten,
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  Speaker 2: two fifteen. I think Javante's five ten, you know, to
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  Speaker 2: eighteen something like that. I mean, this is the same back,
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  Speaker 2: and he's you know, he's had a torn acl a
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  Speaker 2: torn achilles, and he missed four games last year with
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  Speaker 2: an MCL.
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  Speaker 5: So I get it.
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  Speaker 2: He's explosive at his best, and I'm sure that's what
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  Speaker 2: they see. And it tells me after a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of the rookie mini camp and the OTAs, they're still
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  Speaker 2: concerned about third down a little bit, you know, at
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  Speaker 2: running back. You know, they want the young guy to
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  Speaker 2: play there and hope he can. But this this to me,
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  Speaker 2: looks like you're looking for Javonte Williams after you let
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  Speaker 2: Javonte Williams go.
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  Speaker 3: So after Jeff Lewell completely torched Brett Kains theory. So
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  Speaker 3: you wanted an insurance, you just wanted an insurance polish.
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  Speaker 1: I think that having depth in the backfield, especially from
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  Speaker 1: a veteran, which you don't have.
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  Speaker 5: It would be great. Leggy.
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  Speaker 3: What would that price tag be you has to.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I'm not sure. I mean, you could look around.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably a one, one year deal, a two year deal,
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  Speaker 2: something short, you know, and the guy gets back in
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  Speaker 2: the market. I think if you're Dobbins, you know, to
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  Speaker 2: come back from the two injuries. You know, he missed
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  Speaker 2: all but one game in twenty twenty three. He missed
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  Speaker 2: all of the twenty twenty one season. So I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: at this point he he wants as good a situation
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  Speaker 2: as he can get because he knows. I mean again,
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  Speaker 2: he missed four games last year after he had two
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  Speaker 2: really good games to open the year, and then after that,
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  Speaker 2: I think it was a bit of a you know,
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't nearly as good. He had a very good
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  Speaker 2: game against the Broncos, and I'm sure that that had
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  Speaker 2: a little bit to do with the visit. He looked
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  Speaker 2: really good against the Broncos last year. So but I,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think this is an indication the head
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  Speaker 2: coach really likes this team and they want as much
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  Speaker 2: veteran insurance or insurance all over the place as they
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  Speaker 2: can get because he feels really good about this team
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  Speaker 2: and he doesn't want to get caught shorthanded if they
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  Speaker 2: can avoid it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm tired of glazing you, but I can't help it.
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  Speaker 5: Again.
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  Speaker 4: A good article on bo Nicks and what I found
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  Speaker 4: to be interesting, Jeff, We're not talking football, We're talking
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  Speaker 4: about bo Nicks the guy, right, the leader. They off
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  Speaker 4: the field kind of stuff and maybe on the field
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  Speaker 4: a little bit, but it was really good and getting
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  Speaker 4: all those different perspectives. You think that's why again, when
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  Speaker 4: Sean Payton looks at his quarterback that he feels so
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  Speaker 4: secure when you see these former teammates and these other
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  Speaker 4: people really glow about bo Nicks the person, how much
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  Speaker 4: does that help with Sean Payton's confidence in this guy
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  Speaker 4: to be his guy for the next decade.
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  Speaker 2: Wells, I think any coach wants to see it. No
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  Speaker 2: matter what position you coach, you want to see guys
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  Speaker 2: who can handle their business, or you think can handle
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  Speaker 2: their business. And I've believed since bo Nick's walked in
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  Speaker 2: whatever he has to work on as a football player,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, like any player, there's a lot there
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  Speaker 2: he's got to work on and get better at and
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  Speaker 2: all of those things.
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  Speaker 5: But the one thing.
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  Speaker 2: He does as good as any young player I've ever
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  Speaker 2: seen is self awareness. He's got a better self awareness
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  Speaker 2: about where he is as a player, what he needs
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  Speaker 2: to do, what he wants to do. I think he
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  Speaker 2: has a better self awareness than almost everybody else about
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  Speaker 2: him in the building. And I think that's a great
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  Speaker 2: advantage for him because he'll never get caught up in
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  Speaker 2: the rest of it.
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  Speaker 5: So to speak.
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  Speaker 3: Is the word self awareness or humility, because I sense
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  Speaker 3: so much of humility. No matter how good he gets,
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  Speaker 3: he's always going to be sort of down to earth.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think that's that's all in that equation, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's you know, I think he by self awareness, I
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  Speaker 2: think he understands when he's on the field, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's fiery and you know, competitive and and all of
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  Speaker 2: those things. And then when he's off the field, he's
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  Speaker 2: very good about stepping back and sort of peeling the
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  Speaker 2: layers away and say, okay, you know, I get past
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  Speaker 2: fist bumps and and you know, confetti, what what really
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  Speaker 2: happened on this play?
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  Speaker 5: What really happened in this game?
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  Speaker 2: I think he's really good at that and that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think certain is another guy who has that really
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  Speaker 2: good self awareness. And you know it's gonna sound hokey,
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  Speaker 2: but you go back to the you know, to their families,
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  Speaker 2: the people who are around them. Uh, it's what they saw,
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  Speaker 2: what they learned, what they took away from from their
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  Speaker 2: role models and their life, and that's I just think it.
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  Speaker 2: It really bodes well for him because people, I think player,
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  Speaker 2: young players get in a difficult situation when they start
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  Speaker 2: believing all of the criticism and when they start believing
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  Speaker 2: all of the praise.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that's the toughest thing.
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  Speaker 2: Especially now with social media, you can if you're a
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  Speaker 2: young football player in the NFL, you can find commentary
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  Speaker 2: about you everywhere constantly, and to deal with that, I
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  Speaker 2: think is an important part of it.
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  Speaker 1: The leading pass catcher as far as receptions from a
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  Speaker 1: tight end last year on the Broncos was Lucas Kroll,
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  Speaker 1: who had nineteen obviously, go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: No, I think he was like, you know, two hundred
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  Speaker 5: and fiftieth in the league or something like that. Jefly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, when Bret laid out the numbers yesterday, we knew
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  Speaker 4: it was poultry. It was abysmal.
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  Speaker 1: So whatever you're going to get out of Ingram is
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  Speaker 1: going to be a elevation from that. But what would
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  Speaker 1: you say is like sort of bare minimum ideal season
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  Speaker 1: for Ingram from a numbers perspective, assuming he stays healthy
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  Speaker 1: for seventeen games.
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  Speaker 5: But I don't. I don't think i'd look at it
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  Speaker 5: in catches.
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  Speaker 2: I think I would look at it as options for
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  Speaker 2: Knicks in certain situations, like if he has a high
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  Speaker 2: percentage of third down catches, I think that's good. If
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  Speaker 2: he has if he has a high percentage of catches
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  Speaker 2: down the hash marks, vertical catches down the hash marks,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's good. Uh, That's where I would look
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  Speaker 2: because again, uh, last year, you know, only one other
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  Speaker 2: quarterback in the league had more passing yards than bow
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  Speaker 2: Knicks on crossing routes. So that can that tells you
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  Speaker 2: where the Broncos passing offense is. Right now, it's get
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  Speaker 2: the ball out of Nick's hand, and it's always going
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  Speaker 2: to be that with Sean Payton, but I think he
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  Speaker 2: adds diversity that they didn't have, and that that, to me,
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  Speaker 2: success is if if when the season's over and you're
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  Speaker 2: crunching bo Nix's numbers, you have a lot more variety
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  Speaker 2: in where the ball's going, And to me, that would
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  Speaker 2: be successful if they can do that.
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm asking this question, but I've seen
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  Speaker 3: some whispers of this out there, and I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 3: flat out ask a guy who covers a team on
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  Speaker 3: a daily basis, and the Broncos win the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 3: what are all these talks? I mean, people are actually
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  Speaker 3: saying they're a contender, can be a contender. Are we
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  Speaker 3: there yet?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I guess you know. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be the get off my long guy all the time.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, how about they win the division first,
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  Speaker 2: and let's let's talk about that. You know, I think
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  Speaker 2: you have to show if you're the Broncos or the
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  Speaker 2: Raiders or the Chargers, if you're in the AFC West,
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  Speaker 2: you have to show you can finish in front of
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  Speaker 2: the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 5: And then to me, you can talk about the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm not shocked you're seeing this all around in
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  Speaker 2: the national narrative because again, I will tell you, the
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  Speaker 2: head coach likes this team, and I'm sure he's conveyed
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  Speaker 2: that to people when he's spoken to him. Now, has
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  Speaker 2: he used the word super Bowl? I don't know that,
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  Speaker 2: but I know he likes this team. He likes the
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  Speaker 2: way it's constructed. He likes what he and George Peyton
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  Speaker 2: have done in free agency with you know, somewhat limited
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  Speaker 2: capability and all those things. They like their defense, they
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  Speaker 2: like their special teams, and he likes his quarterback. And
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  Speaker 2: in today's NFL, if you have those three things, you're
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  Speaker 2: in the playoff mix.
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  Speaker 5: Frankly good.
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  Speaker 4: Not that they snuck up on anybody last year, but
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  Speaker 4: they ain't sneaking up on anybody this year.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they don't get the NFC South most I
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  Speaker 2: mean people, they got four wins out of the division
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  Speaker 2: Payton has owned, you know, in his career. So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a multiplier last year, you know, in
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  Speaker 2: in the record because you know that was a that
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  Speaker 2: was a stroke of good fortune. Uh, they don't have
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  Speaker 2: and this coming season, you know, the first six weeks
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  Speaker 2: of the year. They cannot afford to sort of stumble
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  Speaker 2: out of the gate. They have to finish August.
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  Speaker 1: Ready to go, Leggy, one last question, and Vic, can
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  Speaker 1: you please give him the list? Vick is going to
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  Speaker 1: be at Coors Field today for the Broncos Home Run
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  Speaker 1: Derby Challenge, and give him the list of Broncos participating.
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  Speaker 1: Leggy will tell us who he believes will win.
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  Speaker 3: All right, these are these are the dudes. Uh, let's
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  Speaker 3: see here. I've got it here because I'm one of
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  Speaker 3: the mcs. Are Here we go the Broncos participating, Alex Singleton,
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  Speaker 3: Themari Matthews, Ja Kwan McMillan, Jonathan Cooper, Marvin Mims, Zach Allen,
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  Speaker 3: Julia McLoughlin, Courtland Sutton, Quinn Miners, Adam Trauman, Garrett Bowles.
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  Speaker 3: And then you've got some influencers social media dude Dad,
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  Speaker 3: Ben Verlander, Ryan Ellington and something called d S A
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  Speaker 3: r M.
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  Speaker 1: You seem like a dude dad viewer.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, my kids. My kids crushed me because
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  Speaker 5: of my of my shutting of the influencers.
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  Speaker 3: If you had to pick one of those names to
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  Speaker 3: win the Home Run Derby, who do you pick among
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  Speaker 3: the Bronco players.
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  Speaker 4: Did we lose him?
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  Speaker 3: Right at the time he was going to give us.
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  Speaker 5: The answer, He's now, okay, yeah, you froze on me.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know what you were doing.
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  Speaker 1: So out of the list of names that you heard
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  Speaker 1: that were Broncos, the winner is going to be who.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Bowles was an elite lacrosse player, so I'm liking
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  Speaker 2: him swinging.
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  Speaker 5: A bat, know, and a different type of swing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but still I like the multi sport guys.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, let him answer the question.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sutton, multi sport guy. I like the multi sport
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  Speaker 2: guys in this activity.
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  Speaker 4: All right, So Sutton or Bulls is what what I
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  Speaker 4: was gonna say, Brett, because I wanted him to address it.
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  Speaker 4: You realize that a baseball swing and a kicking motion
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  Speaker 4: are identical. You realize that, right, That's what.
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  Speaker 1: Vic told me yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to describe.
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  Speaker 4: You realize that he's look you look at his face, Jeff.
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  Speaker 3: They're not sophisticated human beings. I'm talking to peasants here,
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  Speaker 3: and what I'm trying to describe to them is the
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  Speaker 3: kicking motion. The physics of the kicking motion very much
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  Speaker 3: similar to the physics of hitting themself.
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  Speaker 4: Do you want to and they don't choose lots? Do
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  Speaker 4: you want to rethink your lut's Uh, your lut's non pick.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I can see Vic struggle with getting
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  Speaker 2: you guys to have nuanced You know, I guess I
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  Speaker 2: go there, But uh, I'm sticking with my multi sport guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a great answer. It's a great answer
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  Speaker 1: athletes athletes.
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  Speaker 5: Bowles wasn't just a good lacrosse player. Bowles was like
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  Speaker 5: big time.
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  Speaker 4: But how do I know that? I don't know. Some
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  Speaker 4: of these guys didn't rake in high school. Maybe Marvin
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  Speaker 4: Mims was a hell of an outfield. You don't know.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean, in my draft prep for all of
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  Speaker 2: those guys, I don't remember baseball being in the equation
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  Speaker 2: for any of them. That doesn't mean I also can't
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  Speaker 2: remember recycling days. So let's just say I don't remember
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  Speaker 2: everything like.
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  Speaker 4: You're the best.
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  Speaker 3: So I appreciate the time.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, buddyball ESPN dot Com. All Conversations with Leggy
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  Speaker 4: I really liked his article with Nix. Yeah, some good
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  Speaker 4: stuff from Bonnix, but good stuff from from other people
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  Speaker 4: about him, including uh a guy that played with him
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  Speaker 4: at all, A getting Tess Johnson talking about adopted family
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  Speaker 4: and all that. It's it's it's a pretty damn good article.