Latest / Booked On Rock with Eric Senich / The Making Of The Cure's 'Just Like Heaven' [Highlight From Episode 318]
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Here's a highlight from a recent episode of Booked on Rock.
- 0:03Speaker 1: Matthew Davis is the author of The Cure, Every Album,
- 0:05Speaker 1: Every Song, riding high in the success of the Head
- 0:08Speaker 1: on the Door, which reached number seven in the UK
- 0:11Speaker 1: fifty nine in the US, along with the singles collections
- 0:14Speaker 1: Standing on a Beach, which you mentioned the Cure, you write,
- 0:18Speaker 1: were in good spirits when they convened to work on
- 0:20Speaker 1: the next album in nineteen eighty six, and it resulted
- 0:23Speaker 1: in the album kiss Me, Kissed Me, Kissed Me, which
- 0:25Speaker 1: had a working title of one Million Virgins I didn't know.
- 0:28Speaker 1: That has the singles why Can't I Be You, Catch Hot,
- 0:32Speaker 1: Hot Hot, and just Like Heaven, which is, in my opinion,
- 0:36Speaker 1: really a perfect pop rock song. I mean it's absolute perfection.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Share what you write in the book about the writing
- 0:44Speaker 1: of the songs.
- 0:45Speaker 2: The lyrics. Yes, this is about luck A hollow eye
- 0:48Speaker 2: on beachy Head that you had with Mary, his potter
- 0:51Speaker 2: of many years. They got together when they were fifteen
- 0:53Speaker 2: years old.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Still together, yes.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Do together after all these years. It's a real real
- 0:59Speaker 2: romance story, you know, kind of relationship goals in a way.
- 1:03Speaker 2: You know, my partner and I are very affected by that.
- 1:08Speaker 2: I wish that we'd met when when they Zoe could
- 1:10Speaker 2: be together for that amount of time. But yeah, so
- 1:14Speaker 2: she's always been his news, and he's always always been
- 1:16Speaker 2: his rock and held them together when he was in
- 1:18Speaker 2: danger of falling apart. It must be strange to be
- 1:22Speaker 2: a person like that and just know how many love
- 1:23Speaker 2: songs have been written about you were just how many
- 1:25Speaker 2: songs in general. I mean, I can't think of anyone
- 1:27Speaker 2: else that have more songs written about her, apart from
- 1:30Speaker 2: maybe historical figures or someone like Marilyn Monroe where a
- 1:32Speaker 2: lot of people didn't know are probably written songs about her.
- 1:35Speaker 2: But I mean to know that there are like dozens
- 1:37Speaker 2: or if not hundreds of songs inspired by including some
- 1:41Speaker 2: of the best songs of all time, the most romantic
- 1:42Speaker 2: songs of all time. It must be quite an interesting
- 1:45Speaker 2: space to be in. But so lyrics were about that
- 1:47Speaker 2: and experience that that Robert and Mary had when they
- 1:49Speaker 2: were down there at beach. He had when They're Close
- 1:51Speaker 2: to Me video was shot and the music Robert had
- 1:54Speaker 2: written a little instrument with them. It was called Shivers
- 1:56Speaker 2: at the time, and he thought it sounded too much
- 1:59Speaker 2: like another girl and other play by the only ones
- 2:01Speaker 2: the rest of the events at NAT it'll be fine, basically,
- 2:03Speaker 2: so they sped it up a bit and just use
- 2:07Speaker 2: this compositional trick that they had started using probably years before,
- 2:11Speaker 2: in which I still deploy from time to time now,
- 2:13Speaker 2: where basically start with one or two instruments, add another one,
- 2:16Speaker 2: add another one at another one. See that. The way
- 2:19Speaker 2: these two is out in the old days was maybe
- 2:21Speaker 2: start with the drums and then the guitar will come
- 2:24Speaker 2: in and the bass and the vocals and you get
- 2:25Speaker 2: to the end and they drop out one by one. Too.
- 2:27Speaker 2: We had like maybe just the drums going in this case,
- 2:30Speaker 2: obviously start with the bass and the drums and the
- 2:32Speaker 2: acoustic guitar comes in, and then you've got your your
- 2:35Speaker 2: guitars come in and the keyboards before that theme comes in. Also,
- 2:40Speaker 2: the song was used as the theme song for French
- 2:43Speaker 2: TV show at the time, so the instrumental of aught
- 2:45Speaker 2: have been familiar to some viewers in France, at least
- 2:48Speaker 2: at the time before it was released as a single.