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Roster Projections, Season Record Predictions | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, August twenty six This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by.
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  Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans and now a guy who single handedly
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  Speaker 1: pushed for the reboot of Wizards of Waverly Place.
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  Speaker 2: Jay P. Shackvick.
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  Speaker 3: I have no idea what that means. Welcome in its
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday, August twenty sixth and
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  Speaker 3: the first Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.
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  Speaker 4: J P.
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  Speaker 3: Shadwick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli is somewhere in the building. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: he's walking in the studio as we speak. Here's what's
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  Speaker 3: coming up with the program today. Roster cuts are coming
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  Speaker 3: four o'clock tomorrow, the deadline for all teams to be
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  Speaker 3: down to fifty three players.
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  Speaker 5: But we're gonna go ahead and cut the roster tonight.
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  Speaker 3: On this show, Pete and Tony will break it down
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  Speaker 3: for you and the official Jaguars Happy Hour schedule predictions
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  Speaker 3: for this season game by game win lost record. They'll
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  Speaker 3: put it in stone tonight and we'll hold him to it.
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  Speaker 3: We'll keep it real as we always do. And fanatics
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  Speaker 3: fan questions at the second hour.
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  Speaker 6: J P.
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  Speaker 3: Shadwick, Tony BUSSELLI we're at the Hyundai studios at the
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  Speaker 3: Miller of Electric Center. Pete Prisco, go down in South Florida. Tony,
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  Speaker 3: what's up?
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  Speaker 5: Glad you made it?
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  Speaker 2: Bud?
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  Speaker 5: What's up?
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  Speaker 2: I was here. I've been here for an hour and
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  Speaker 2: a half. I was in another room.
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  Speaker 5: You believe that, Pete? What's up?
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  Speaker 6: Man?
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  Speaker 2: I lot you?
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  Speaker 6: No, No, I do not believe that, and never will.
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  Speaker 6: He's I know he staggered in late. He forgets how
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  Speaker 6: Coughlin used to have that clock, doesn't he?
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  Speaker 2: He does?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that clock at Coughlin clock is.
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  Speaker 2: No longer a thing for you. First of all, I
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  Speaker 2: was right on time, right at four. I was here,
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  Speaker 2: and I've just been early because there haven't been used
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  Speaker 2: to be being early lately. So that's all that happened.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you're here, I'm here, you're present. I'm president accounted
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  Speaker 5: for all right.
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  Speaker 3: So Theaguar has gotta win preseason week three starters against
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  Speaker 3: the backups. We'll cut the roster later. We were gonna
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  Speaker 3: kind of get all that out of the way in
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  Speaker 3: just a little bit. They've already kind of cut some
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  Speaker 3: guys already yesterday. But they checked some boxes in the
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  Speaker 3: final preseason what.
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  Speaker 2: Boxes did they check?
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  Speaker 3: They needed to move the ball offensively. They had all
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  Speaker 3: five offensive linemens start. Okay, that was one thing you
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  Speaker 3: wanted to see. Yep, you wanted to see some efficiency
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  Speaker 3: by the offense.
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  Speaker 5: Move the ball.
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  Speaker 2: They did that and two drives score two.
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  Speaker 6: Doesn't count though it doesn't count. They are to be
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  Speaker 6: on their.
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  Speaker 5: Team, Well, who are they supposed to play against? Pete, Well,
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  Speaker 5: I mean.
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  Speaker 6: I get it, you're supposed to be. If you go
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  Speaker 6: out and you play, you play as well as you can.
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  Speaker 6: It looked good. It was nice against guys that aren't
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  Speaker 6: going to be on the on the on the Falcons roster.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unfortated, I mean, peach right, I mean it's
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  Speaker 2: unfortunate that Falcons didn't play forty guys. It wasn't just
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  Speaker 2: the starters. Forty guys did not play, so that means
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  Speaker 2: not just just basic mac twenty two starters, so it's
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  Speaker 2: twenty two. That means eighteen backups did not play.
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  Speaker 6: So that's forty and you're gonna keep fifty three.
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  Speaker 2: So thirteen guys who made the team that are gonna
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  Speaker 2: make the team played well.
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  Speaker 5: You'd rather look good against them though than not.
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  Speaker 2: But let me take. I'm gonna take a different perspective
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  Speaker 2: because Pete is right, but I disagree with Pete at
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  Speaker 2: some level. From the standpoint, I agree with you. They
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  Speaker 2: checked the box. It's all us and because the way
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  Speaker 2: you had to look at that was the only bad
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  Speaker 2: thing that could the only two bad things can come
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  Speaker 2: out of that game. One, any injuries are bad preseason,
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  Speaker 2: that's normal. And then two is if you didn't look
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  Speaker 2: good against that group you were playing against, you might
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  Speaker 2: have some panic in the building. But no one got
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  Speaker 2: hurt and they did their job. And so I think
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  Speaker 2: there is value from the standpoint of getting reps. They're
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  Speaker 2: live reps. Who cares. It was like, we're not. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you win or lose. We're not trying
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  Speaker 2: to keep It's not about keeping score or wins and losses.
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  Speaker 2: It's about getting reps to prepare for what opening day,
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  Speaker 2: because that's all that matters. And so I do think
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  Speaker 2: it was productive. I do think they did a good job.
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  Speaker 2: And I do think you got better because you got
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  Speaker 2: reps with the guys that are the five guys playing together.
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  Speaker 2: It's first time we've seen it. What'd you think of them?
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  Speaker 2: It was fine, It was good. They did their job.
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  Speaker 2: They blocked, they moved the ball, they ran the ball,
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  Speaker 2: They protect Trevor.
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  Speaker 6: Trevor looked good and a nice job against Valdosta State.
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  Speaker 2: But you're missing the point, Pete.
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  Speaker 6: I get it. Tony, I'm with you. They had to
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  Speaker 6: play together. I'm with you. One. They had to play together,
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  Speaker 6: and you're right, there was some good things in that
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  Speaker 6: offensive line. It was great. Yeah, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 6: sheriff had as usual whiff that almost got his quarterback killed.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, there was a lot of good things in
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  Speaker 6: the run game. I thought they got off their double
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  Speaker 6: team and came to the next level. You know, the
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  Speaker 6: run by the run by ETM was nice. They they
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  Speaker 6: were they did a good job. It was a nice performance.
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  Speaker 6: And the right tackle was going to be a brute.
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  Speaker 6: By the way, that kid's going to be a brute.
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  Speaker 6: He looks like he's improved in the run game, which
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  Speaker 6: is really important.
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  Speaker 5: Gotta have that guy certainly this year moving ahead as
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  Speaker 5: well with the situation with the other tackles on this
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  Speaker 5: roster being in a contract year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: By the way, uh, we got to give credit credators
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  Speaker 6: due Bacell. He made the proclamation they would go undefeated
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  Speaker 6: in the preseason and they did.
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  Speaker 5: That was that was quite a limb to go out on, Tony.
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  Speaker 6: Grad and he really went out on a limb. And
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  Speaker 6: then my lock, I'm over one unlocks.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, what was your lock?
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  Speaker 6: I forgot forty yard catch for Brian Thomas, So what
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  Speaker 6: do he get?
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  Speaker 2: No lock? No lock?
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  Speaker 6: I missed it. The boy he looked good on that play.
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  Speaker 6: He almost got it.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 6: Love that Kid's gonna be special, by the way, you think, Yes,
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  Speaker 6: I do. When you you know it's funny Tony. I
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  Speaker 6: went back and watched the tape again today. And when
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  Speaker 6: you watch the tape and you watch him run compared
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  Speaker 6: to the other and the other receivers can run a
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  Speaker 6: little bit, you know, Gabe Davis's not a burner, but
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  Speaker 6: it's like night and day how fast he is compared
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  Speaker 6: to them on the tape. I think he's gonna be special.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's gonna be I said it. I've said
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  Speaker 6: it a couple different ways, but I think he's gonna
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  Speaker 6: be one of those pay him like CD LAMB receivers
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  Speaker 6: in a couple of years. I really do.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's how I hope. So, I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: really hope. So I don't know that yet, but I'll
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  Speaker 2: say this, I'm more bullish on him after camp than
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  Speaker 2: I was before camp. After watching him live and watching
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  Speaker 2: him move and practice and watch him in the game,
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  Speaker 2: I probably lean towards Pete. I mean, my goodness, he
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  Speaker 2: runs differently than anyone else we have, and he's.
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  Speaker 6: A pretty good He's become a decent route He's getting
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  Speaker 6: better as a route runner. You saw that last week
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  Speaker 6: when he did the he caught the ball on the sideline,
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  Speaker 6: and I thought this week he did it, you know,
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  Speaker 6: nice cutting the crisp cutting across the middle on that
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  Speaker 6: on that crossing route. I'd like what I see from him.
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  Speaker 6: Gabe Davis should have caught a touchdown passing the back
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  Speaker 6: of the end zone. That's a drop. He's gotta he
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  Speaker 6: gotta catch that. Don't you agree?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think he probably would tell you the
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  Speaker 2: same thing.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. I like. I like to play the stock block,
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  Speaker 6: fake run block, and then get him into the into
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  Speaker 6: the into the middle of the field. I like the play.
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  Speaker 6: I like the design of the play. I thought the
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  Speaker 6: offense play Colin was better to me. You know, he
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  Speaker 6: was under center more throwing out under center. I think
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  Speaker 6: that's important for him. I thought that was better. And
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  Speaker 6: there were a lot there was a lot to like again,
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  Speaker 6: but you gotta you gotta just realize that the guys
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  Speaker 6: they're playing against aren't going to be a most of
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  Speaker 6: them aren't going to be in the league.
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  Speaker 2: But Pete, here's the way I look at it. You're
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  Speaker 2: right by the way, you're playing against a bunch of accountants,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, and.
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  Speaker 5: No offense to accountants, none bouncers and bartenders.
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  Speaker 2: And we need all of them. And uh and they
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  Speaker 2: probably would have scored fifty in the first half. They
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  Speaker 2: kept on going. They just kept on scoring, score and scoring. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's not the point. The point is are you executing?
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  Speaker 2: Are you moving the ball? Are you playing physical? Are
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  Speaker 2: you we've at last year a complaint was they don't
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  Speaker 2: get in the three point stands, come up with the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Did they do that? Yes? Was the timing good in
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  Speaker 2: the passing game, yes? Did Tank and ETN look well,
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  Speaker 2: I mean play well and hit the holes. Yes, I
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  Speaker 2: mean like so, everything that you could want out of
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  Speaker 2: that game you got. And I'm telling you it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: actually matter if it would have been the first unit
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  Speaker 2: that it's not the point. The point is of getting
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  Speaker 2: reps and preparing and being at your best in Miami
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  Speaker 2: on September ninth or September eighth. That's all that matters.
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  Speaker 5: And I could argue it might be.
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  Speaker 2: Better playing against a bunch of guys who are countants
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  Speaker 2: and bartenders and bouncers, because guess what, I've been a player.
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  Speaker 2: You'll convince yourself like we can do this against anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Confidence begets confidence like seeing it happen, seeing it on
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  Speaker 2: film and feeling good. That's really positive and that can
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  Speaker 2: carry it over today.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. And the flip side of that, Tony is you
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  Speaker 6: know how they always say that, You guys always used
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  Speaker 6: to say the wins don't feel as good as the
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  Speaker 6: losses feel as bad. You know what I mean. When
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  Speaker 6: you lose, it hurts. If they had gone into that
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  Speaker 6: game and done nothing against that group, that would have
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  Speaker 6: been a lot worse than good. In terms of what
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  Speaker 6: they did against that group, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: It would have been much more alarming than this is
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  Speaker 6: to sit there and say, oh, wow, they're going to
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  Speaker 6: be a super Bowl team. If they didn't move the
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  Speaker 6: football on this group at all, then then you would
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  Speaker 6: have gone to the season thinking that was gonna be
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  Speaker 6: a four win team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be more concerned. My point is like haven't
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  Speaker 2: we learned by now in today's NFL, Like don't take
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  Speaker 2: anything possi that are negative from the preseason, Like don't
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  Speaker 2: overreact because you're probably gonna be wrong. Like I'll go
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  Speaker 2: back to twenty seventeen when we were a couple of
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  Speaker 2: plays away from going to the Super Bowl. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you guys remember that preseason, but I do.
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  Speaker 2: I remember watching the preseason. We could not stop the
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  Speaker 2: run at all, that great defense because this was before
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  Speaker 2: Marcel Darius got there.
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  Speaker 5: We got there in October.
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  Speaker 2: We could not stop the run in the preseason and
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  Speaker 2: we could not run the ball to save our lives.
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  Speaker 2: And then and I remember Jeff and I can remember
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  Speaker 2: I guess in Houston Open Day on this show we
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  Speaker 2: were talking about and I remember going to that game,
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  Speaker 2: going we are in trouble. This isn be a long season.
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  Speaker 2: What are we doing? And they came out and ran
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  Speaker 2: the ball right down the Texans throats shut down the
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  Speaker 2: run and had nine sacks, and I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like I did not see any of this coming
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  Speaker 2: based on what I just watched the preseason. You can't tell.
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  Speaker 2: You can't tell anything. So guess what theyccomplished exactly what
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  Speaker 2: they had to on Friday night. Get everyone out there,
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  Speaker 2: get out of their healthy, get positive feelings on tape,
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  Speaker 2: get together, communicating, get in, get out. Let's get ready
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  Speaker 2: for Miami. That's all that matters. You competent in the
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  Speaker 2: short yardage offense after the other night? Is that one
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  Speaker 2: thing that's still out there? Did you see enough of that?
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  Speaker 2: Pete short yardage?
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  Speaker 6: I still think that's going to be a problem. You know, again,
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  Speaker 6: the right guard isn't powerful in the run game, and
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  Speaker 6: you know the left guard isn't an overly strong guy
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  Speaker 6: in the new center. Morses is good at his angles
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  Speaker 6: and stuff like that, but he's not a powerful guy
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  Speaker 6: either terms of that position. So that could still be
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  Speaker 6: a problem. It could still be a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Do you see enough?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean it does.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what I saw. I will tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Let's have that conversation October first, because it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 7: Let's say they would have got every one of them
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  Speaker 7: and just for twenty yards. Oh, we're the greatest short
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  Speaker 7: yardst team ever. Okay, maybe not like what accounts. Can
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  Speaker 7: you do it?
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  Speaker 6: But you gotta admit it's still concerned.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm concerned about Yes, like after I knew I
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  Speaker 2: was gonna be concerned about us up front, regardless of
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  Speaker 2: what happened on Friday night. Why because it's the same.
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  Speaker 2: It's four of the five same guys we had last year,
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  Speaker 2: and we did not have a good We did not
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  Speaker 2: perform like a good unit last year. You made one change,
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  Speaker 2: adding a ten year center who's an upgrade. Love them,
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  Speaker 2: that's the only change you made. And so okay, let's
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  Speaker 2: hope that them being all healthy and getting a three
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  Speaker 2: point stance the point of emphasis that will change things.
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  Speaker 2: I think that can happen. But we still got to
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  Speaker 2: see it, don't we.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and they still like the run the run Etn
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  Speaker 6: had when he hit the crack in the middle there.
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  Speaker 6: That was one of those Tony the runs you love
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  Speaker 6: where they pin pull, yeah, kick out. You know it's
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  Speaker 6: the same. It's not the power drive getting rude a
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  Speaker 6: guy out kind of run, which is why it goes
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  Speaker 6: back to your conversation on third and one. You know,
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  Speaker 6: short yarded situation, JP. We won't know until it's third
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  Speaker 6: and one in a key situation in a regular season
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  Speaker 6: game if they're any better at it. But I'm not
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  Speaker 6: holding my breath that they will be. So I still
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  Speaker 6: think they're gonna have trouble with that because because of
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  Speaker 6: how they're constructed in the middle of that offensive line.
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  Speaker 3: Guys, we're back in a moment, and we will cut
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  Speaker 3: the roster, or you will cut the roster.
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  Speaker 5: I will sit here, you guys.
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  Speaker 6: He's on his phone. He's on his phone a lot today.
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  Speaker 6: He's up to something.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. I'm doing research. Peep, stop,
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking. I'm talking to sources, NFL sources. I got
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  Speaker 2: some stuff. Let me break something I've heard Gibson.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, you're well.
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  Speaker 6: Are you wrote that? All right?
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  Speaker 5: You heard it here first? Nope, like hundreds No, But now.
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  Speaker 6: You can try and figure out why.
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  Speaker 2: The roster will be cut when we come back.
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  Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.
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  Speaker 4: By doing it early, you know, earlier than Tuesday. It
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  Speaker 4: allows these guys opportunities.
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  Speaker 6: You know, to be picked up, you know, and we still.
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  Speaker 4: Have some moves to make you know by tomorrow. But
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  Speaker 4: again it's it's it's never easy. These guys have have
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  Speaker 4: you know, busted their tails and and have have done
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  Speaker 4: some good things and and you know, really put themselves
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  Speaker 4: in a position to hopefully now help help another squad
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  Speaker 4: stuck Peterson.
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  Speaker 3: Earlier today, the full press conference at Jaguars dot Com
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  Speaker 3: and Jags YouTube Welcome Back, Jaguars Happy Hours INTENXL, Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with Tony Vasselli Hall
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  Speaker 3: of Famer and Pete Prisco down in South Florida. The
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars already made some cuts to the roster yesterday. They
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  Speaker 3: waived six players Raymond Johnson defensive end, Jonathan Marshall defensive tackle,
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  Speaker 3: Andrew Parker junior linebacker, Joseph Skate's a wide receiver, Breeland Speaks,
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  Speaker 3: defensive end and wide receiver, Seth Williams, and then released
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  Speaker 3: to Von Campbell a cornerback, Denzel Mims, a wide receiver,
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  Speaker 3: Chris Myrik tight end, and offensive lineman Keaton In Sutherland
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  Speaker 3: that means they are not subject to waivers. So four
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  Speaker 3: players are able to sign with other teams immediately. The
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  Speaker 3: others have to go through the waiver process.
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  Speaker 2: So so does this little thing? Have those guys gone already?
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  Speaker 5: It looks like it does. Yes, these are rosters as
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  Speaker 5: of today.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's great. So how many players do we have?
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  Speaker 3: Travis Gibson has gone, you're you're breaking news taking to
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  Speaker 3: Seattle for a late round pick. I believe it's a sixth.
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  Speaker 2: I can't. I can't confirm or deny what the round is.
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  Speaker 2: I believe my sources are still working on working on
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  Speaker 2: the sources.
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  Speaker 5: So who else to begin? We just go position group
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  Speaker 5: by position?
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  Speaker 2: Group here, what do you think?
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, let's go position by position.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Well, let's let's hold on. Let's start here. How many
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks are they keeping? Pete?
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: Two?
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: Two?
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Quarter How many running backs?
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: No, let's go, let's no.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: I want to go through this because then we can
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: will be much quicker, because then we'll make sure we
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: get to the right number. Two.
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: All right, let's go, Okay, we'll say three at two quarterbacks, running.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Back backs running?
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: How many wide receivers?
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Six? Right?
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: Maybe seven? Probably six? Six. It depends on special teams.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, tight ends, uh three, offensive line, I'm gonna say
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: nine or ten?
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: Ten?
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, d line.
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: Uh one two, three, four, five, six, nine or.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Ten, nine or ten? Okay, linebackers four?
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: How do you count Abdullah?
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: He's a linebacker.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: He's a strong sideline backer.
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: So you'll count one, two, three, four, five, six, special.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Teams five to six? How many dbs.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: One two three for five corners?
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Let's say nine to ten. Let's just get it there, Okay, Yeah,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: three specialists, yes, okay, three, we know the three specialists,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: so we actually have three specialists are on. We're done there,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: So we have fifty guys to go with quarterbacks? Is
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: going to be Trevor and Mack Jones, right, Okay? Running backs?
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I have etn uh the Ernest Johnson and Bigsby, and
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I have Robinson going on ir correct? Okay, And so
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: that gives how many?
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: Does that get us too?
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: That's that's that's we're at eight? Okay.
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: Wide receivers Kirk Davis, Thomas, dub Day, Washington. And then
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: you have to decide Tim Jones and Cooks or did
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: he keep both of them?
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Minds?
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Jones? Tim Jones is on the team, I think.
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: Okay, Tim Jones, so do you keep Cooks?
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: So Cooks is let's just say a question mark because
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: we got to come back and we know uh Cephas
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: and Trammel were gone. Trammel's going to uh practice squad.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you that if he can get through, if
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: he gets through, yep. Okay, uh, tight ends.
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: Angry, strange and feral done.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: That's an easy one, okay. Uh. And then we go
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: offensive line Robinson. Okay, hold on, let's go Robinson. So
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: let's go start. Hold On, let's just start. We got
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Harrison Robinson, Cleveland Sheriff, and and Mitch Morris. Okay, that's fine.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna say Walker little is your swing.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say there, they're not. They're not cutting Fortner. No,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: they're gonna keep Hodges.
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: They're not gonna cut the draft pick tackle either.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: And they're not gonna cut that. So that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: eight nine.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: Then it comes down between Blake Hants and Cole Van Lannon.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I they are making they're not getting rid of rid
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: of Van Lannon. That's tense, right, Okay, that's what do
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: you think about that?
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: As a group. The depth isn't very good.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: That means you're getting rid of Hants, you're getting rid
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: of Shatley, You're getting rid of Stephen Jones and Darryl Williams.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I guess this is worth shadly.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: You can tell you Shortley, you say, hey, say he
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: lives here, doesn't need to stay around and be a
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: practice squader.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: That's right. But the interesting thing on this, if you
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: look at this, you Javon Foster. He's not ready to play.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Hell no, not even he's not ready. Tell us what
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: you think, Pete Robby.
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: You know, like dudes, watch the tape. He's not close
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: to being.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Ready to play. You're not He's not ready, Okay, Doper
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Cooper Hodges. You have to treat him as a rookie.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I think he's a future starter in this league. But
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: he's not ready to roll out there right now. But
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I think he's a future starter. I mean you got
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: to keep him. So that's a development guy. So right
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: now you have two development guys. I mean, who's better
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Fortner or Hands who's at a better camp?
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: Well, who's your backup center? Well?
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: They worked Hodges in there, I mean yeah, I mean
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Fortner is gonna be. That's why he's not getting cut.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I think he's not getting cut because he's a draft pick,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: former third rounder.
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: And does it does rookie tackle automatically on the.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Team based on history? Yes? I don't see them cutting
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: a fourth rounder, fourth round pick. Do I think he's
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: one of the best ten offensive linemen? No? No, no,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: But somebody would claim him if they cut him.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Real life, is a fourth pick?
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: Would they?
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Would they? I don't know. I don't know. Like he's
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: not one of your best ten.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: He might not be one of the best twelve.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, I mean he's a development guy. I'm not saying
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: he can't be.
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: Are we being real here? So far of what you've seen,
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: is he one of the best twelve on that roster?
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Tony.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: Anything you've seen from him as a former All Pro
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: left tackle that would give you an indication that down
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: the road he could. He doesn't even look like a
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: left tackle.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: For one, he has length, his feet has feetter average,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: He has length, big body. I don't know, played football
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: a lot of football.
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: Would you keep him or hands?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I would keep hands. And this is why.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: What have we heard.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Since camp started publicly both times from the owner set
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: it on the first preseason broadcast. What do you say when?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: When does he want to win? Now? Now, what message
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: does that send if you're the head coach or the
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: GM of this team? We gotta win? Now? What did
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: he just do this offseason? He spent about a billion
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: dollars on players. I mean that's a little hyperbole, but
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: you know what, I mean, a lot of money off.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: It's not that far off. I mean, he spent a
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: lot of money. What has he done the last two years?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: He spent all kinds of money on the practice facility,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: He's going to spend all kinds of money on the stadium.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: He's giving them every resource possible to be good. His
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: expectations win now. So if it was.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: Me, it's hard to believe, though, Blake a better chance
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: of winning if you cut the draft pick and keep.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: What'd you say?
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: It's hard to believe all that will go out the
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: window if you got the draft pick.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: No, no, it's not about the draft. I don't care.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I don't actually, I think it's I think one of
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: the problems all teams. So this is a like and
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I'm sure every GM is gonna just hate me for this.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: But I don't really care. But I think across the
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: league is keeping draft picks because you drafted them when
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: you when you don't think they can actually they don't
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: deserve to make the team. Like to keep a guy
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: just because he was a draft pick is a waste
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: of time because at some point, if.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: You mention to the coaches, they'd probably tell you, now,
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: he's never going to be a player.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: And I'm not and I and Javan, if you're listening,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to beat up on you. I'm not
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: saying you can't be a good player. I'm not saying
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: you're not an NFL caliber. I'm not saying that any
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: of that because but you're But he's a development he's
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: not ready today and this is a team that needs
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: to win right now. So based on that, I would
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: keep Blake Hans because I think he gives you better
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: depth in a big body that can play multiple positions
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: on the offensive line.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: This much is a fact. And it's not just here.
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: The backup offensive lineman in the NFL are bad. Okay,
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: it's not. If you have injuries. If you have guys
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: go down for any length of time, you have major
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: problems in this league.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: That's right, and so guess what what else is? What
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: else is this offensive line built with older guys, two
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: ten year guys and tonight year guy who's not played
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: every game in a long time. And so it's it.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: And so like if it was me, I'm going wait
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: a second. My owners spend a lot of money. My
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: owners come out publicly and said I expect to win now.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Offensive line was an issue last year of staying healthy.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I got older guys. Do I have the luxury of
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: keeping a guy that nobody thinks is ready to play
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: this year and help us questionable if he's gonna be
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: ready next I mean he's a project. Or Do I
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: keep a big body guy who started played games last
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: year for us? I know that if he if he
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: comes in, we can function because he's big and physical.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying you starter like to me, I'm going
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: with I'm going with.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: Well, here's yeah, and here's the other part of that
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: equation too. Everybody says, well, maybe you can go get
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: one off somebody else's team.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: By the way, just so you know, Blake Cants will
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: get signed by somebody if you cut him.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Correct.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: That's because there's not a lot of depth, played enough
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: games and a good enough we count this up with
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: six receivers, that's eleven fourteen to three tight ends, twenty
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: four with the offensive line. That leaves twenty six guys
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: on defense left.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: And we will come back and take a look at
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: the defense.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: And we always can take one of those twenty six
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: and give a seventh receiver if we need to.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Yesing the roster tonight. The official cuts are tomorrow four o'clock.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: These are the ones we're not beholding the draft picks.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: So they're listening down the hall right now and just
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: waiting for you guys to figure it out.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: If they're listening, their cursing. They're cursing me right now.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: I've been blamed for getting guys cut in the past,
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: believe it or not.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I'm just this is nothing against Javon Foster at all.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: This is just ready, He's ready.
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• 27:50
  Speaker 4: I saw these guys really kind of roll off the ball,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I know, two really good drives, you know, to end
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: in touchdowns. And and I thought these guys did a
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: did a really good job playing together at communication. There
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: was great communication on the sideline between the you know,
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: between those two series right there. And you know, I
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: saw some physicality, you know in the run game, which
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: is good to see. And again, part of today is
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: to go back and.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: Kind of clean up some things, you.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Know, with those guys.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: But I thought, overall, you know, it was really good
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: to see them get out there and get some meaningful
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: reps in those games.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Head coach Doug Peterson earlier today, the offensive line playing
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: the all five starters playing in the game last week
• 28:32
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• 28:46
  Speaker 3: edition of Jaguars Happy Hour. The official cuts from the
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: team and all NFL teams must to be down to
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: fifty three by tomorrow four o'clock. But as Pete said earlier,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: these are the air quote of initial cuts. Tonight on
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: this show, Tony and Pete, we did the offense.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Last second, we're gonna do defense, and then depending how
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: quick we get through defense, we'll either do this segment
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: or next. I want to see if any possible trades
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: that could be made. Remember we had two we have
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: two weeks before opening day, any trades. We saw Trevis
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Gibson go, which I was a little bit surprised because
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I thought he added depth to that pass rush and
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I thought he was a pretty good pass rusher. And
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure obviously they were gonna cut him. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: mean it was his deal was like one point three
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: or something. I get that, but they were obviously if
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: they only got a six, they're cutting them probably, And
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I thought he was one of their best pass rush
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: options as a backup.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: Hey, before we get into the defense, can I tell
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: this story, Tony, I told you I'm not gonna name
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: the player, but I'll tell you somewhere one time. You
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: know how I used to speculate on who we get cut.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: We do the projected roster cuts or whatever. So one
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: day one of the guys got cut that it was
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: all my projected roster cuts. He blames comes up, what's that?
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: They blamed you?
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: You?
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: One of the players comes up to me the next
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: day he goes, you got him cut? I go what?
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: He goes, Yeah, you had his name in the paper,
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: so they listened to you and they caught him. I go,
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: you can't possibly believe that. I mean, he couldn't. And
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you the player one day, Tony, and you'll
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: know who it is. And I tell you and you'll laugh.
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: But I said, no, that's not true. They don't care
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: what I say.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: No, not there, not on the airth Okay, let's go defense,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: defensive line. We're gonna keep nine or ten. Let's say
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: we know who's staying Hinds Allen yes, Trayvon Walker, yes,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Devon Hampington Hamilton, yes, Eric arms Let's let's.
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: Break it down by edge and inside. That way we
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: could do it. It'll be a little easier.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, So edge Hinds, Alan Walker, DJ Coleman, hold on,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: not yet. I think Eric Armstead is going to be
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: considered an end. An edge. There's a lot of a
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: lot of noise that that's why he came here is
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: because he was going to be allowed to play edge.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: So that's three. Yeah, you need a fourth.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Four.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I think Miles Coal is your fourth, not Gaziano. No,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I think it's Miles Coal.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, there, you go back to your draft picking draft
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: pick seventh rounder, right.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I think it's Miles Coal. He has length.
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: Guziano was a fifth year veteran played in Atlanta last year.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. You asked me, I'm just telling you.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: I'm with you. I'm with Tony. I think they keep.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: I think they keep. What about Coleman?
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's well, let's wait. That's four, because let's go
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: now to the interior. Okay. Uh Devon Hamilton, Yes, Mason Smith,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: we know that, and we know Jordan Jefferson for sure.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: That's that's three. Three has to be on the team,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I think so. Either that or they're going to trade him.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: But he has to be there one way at the
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: fifty three tomorrow unless we hear a trade or something
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: just because of the cap. That's it's four. Interior guys. Now,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: it comes down to this for the interior. Uh oh
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: to maywoe? Uh uh. Lacey former draft pick or led
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Better lays a draft pick. I have heard that there
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: are coaches that really like May had a good had
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: a very good he had a very good preseason. Lacey's
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: a former draft pick. Do they give up on him
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: after one year? And then led Better probably is the
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: has the most production on tape eight year player. I
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: think they. I think I think the GM will be
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: fighting to keep Lacey because he's a draft pick. I agree,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: that's my that's my sense.
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: And they and they also probably can get the other
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: two on the practice squad. So let's say Lacey, Now,
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: if you count Armstead as a as an interior guy,
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: then you're gonna have to find another edge rusher.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Well that's nine right now, and I think you're gonna
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: try to keep ten. So is it Graziano or Coleman
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: that stay as a or do they add a sixth
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: interior guy?
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: No, I think they would. They have to add another
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: reg guy.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say, do they go get one from
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: outside the I'll be honest with you, the.
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: Guy they the guy that's Coleman or whoever that last
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: guy is. I wouldn't get too comfortable with saying you
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: made the team. On Tuesday.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Let's go with.
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: Wednesday, and Wednesday they're gonna go get some somebody.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: All right, let's say let's go with Coleman. Okay, and
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: we're gonna get so latter Guarziano O to Mawe. That's it.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: So we got Hinds Out Walker, Devon Hamilton, DJ Coleman,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Miles Cole Armstead, Lacey Mason Smith and Jordan Jefferson and
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Roy Robinson Harris.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: Let's go to linebackers.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: That's ten linebackers. Foyer is an obvious, Devin, Chad Moon, Miller,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: h Vontaine, Ventrel Miller, Ventrell Miller. That's so, I said
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Ventrel Miller, and I think Abdulla so that's fine.
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: And Abdullah can play with as a rusher too, so
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: you kind of get him in two spots.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: So that's that's fifteen.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Caleb Johnson, he's been a special teams guy last couple
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: of years.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Let's let's hold off maybe he's a maybe and then uh,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: defensive backs, let's go corners first corners.
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: He's a pretty easy he's a pretty easy I think.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Savage is your nickel.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but okay, but he'll also played some safety. No
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: he's not.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: He is your starting nickel, Pete. That is his position.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: He's put him.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you right now, they're not playing him
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: at safety. He's their starting nickel. Like you can keep
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: on saying that over and over again, he's not going
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: to be Yes, he is the starting nickel. So your
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: corners are Tyson Campbell, Darby, Darby Jones, Daron Jones, yep.
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: For sure, Raze.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Or and then one more Prince draft pick a good camp, yeah,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: good camp.
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: Okay, and over over over Brown.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: That's one, two, three, four, five, six corners over Brown, okay,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: and your safeties.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: Are Cisco No, Monteric Brown.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Right, Daniel Thomas, Antonio Johnson, and then until wingards back.
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: You got to keep another one, so you probably keep Edmunds.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: This is I are Gibson is suspended.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: Right, you gotta keep You gotta keep Edmunds in that
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: scenario or go get one.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll say Edmunds, so that means Proctor Trey Flowers.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: How about Adrian Amos tenth year safety? He played well
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: at times? Okay, gone, could you could Adrian Amos be
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: over Edmunds? I don't know. I don't either, I don't either.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Hey, what so go back to the Monteric Brown corner thing?
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: You're leaving them off? Pete?
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, because I think I think Prince is on.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Well, you can't keep braswell, Prince and Montera Brown. One
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: is the odd man out.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: Right, and which one of those of those three, which
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: one would be the odd man out? Would be Brown?
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Okay? So it's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: nine to ten dbs. So now we're at twenty five.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: That leaves one spot on either side of the ball
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: on either side, and it comes down to special teams.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Do you keep Caleb Johnson or Elijah Cooks.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: That's basically what that's That's basically what it come down to.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: I think the special line.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: It's Cable Caleb Johnson. So there's our roster. It's done. Wow,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: that was easy.
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: But like I said, if I were four or five
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: of those guys on Tuesday, I wouldn't go around to
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: my horn that I made the team because I think
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: on Wednesday there's gonna be some changes over there.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: Waiver claims, Well, I mean.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: I think Tony's right. I think they still might make
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: a deal or two.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so what so what make you make trades?
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: If they hadn't given Roy Robertson Harris that trade had money,
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: which god knows why they did it. They didn't have to.
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: If they hadn't given him that money, they could have
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: pedaled him in two minutes.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: So you don't think there's a market for him with
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: his current contract. I mean they don't even know what
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: his current contract is. So look at look at the contract.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: They take a giant hit to trade him. I don't
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: see him doing that.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: And then you're admitt and you gave him money to
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: get rid of him.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: How about any offensive lineman on the trade block?
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: I mean, if you're going to keep faster, then you
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: might put somebody might want to give you something for hands.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Well right now they they I mean listen, and he's
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: had a great camp Cole van landon great camp.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: He's been one of their best best linemen in his camp.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Great camp. So you have Walker Little, Cam's going into
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: his last year, right, both of them are.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Yep?
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Do you try? Would you trade Cam or Walker Little
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: for a draft pick?
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: You could, you'd get you'd get like a four were
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: five for one.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: But it goes back to the commers.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I would not do that. I'm just saying,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: if you think about.
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: Because you can always get guys, get Hurtle.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I agree with you people. I'm just saying, if you
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: think about what crazy things could happen over the next
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: several like day or two, could you could you see
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: a trade on like the only guy I could see
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: them trading on the defense side of the ball is right.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: But to Pete's point, that's going to be a capit.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but I think they
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: have cap room. But you could you get something for him,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: and then I think the only way you would trade
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: excuse me, I couldn't reach the cough button from here.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I think the only way you would trade one of
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: those tackles is if you got better than a third
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: round pick, because you're probably not signing both of them.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: You're gonna lose one of them in free agency, and
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: you'll get a comp insitory pick for them, and probably
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: at the number that a tackle's gonna get starting caliberg
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: tackles gonna get in this league, it will probably be close.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: It could be a third rounder. So you're not gonna
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: trade him either guy for anything less than a third
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: rounder because the competitory pick coming next year.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: You gotta be darn sure the rest of the guys
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: are ready to go.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: No, that's why I don't think it happens, is my point.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: If you just do the math, because like, is anyone
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: gonna give you a second rounder for either of those guys.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: I'll give you an example. I'll give you an example
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: right now. The Browns, Pete, are desperate for offensive tackles
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: with all the injuries they've had.
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because Will's and Conland are both still hurt.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: What if the forty nine ers can't get Trent Williams
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: to come in baby offensive tackle.
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: By the way, that you know who their backup center
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: is in San Francisco, now, don't you?
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: I do, Ben Bart He's there back up all right? Yeah,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, Pete, I don't think
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I would trade either of those guys because I think
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get a compensitory pick next year, because I
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: don't think they signed both of them back. Maybe they do,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: who knows. You never know what happens this year. And
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I and I go back to what we said about
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: the other, about the last segment, Like it's clear as
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: day that the owner said, we got to win now.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: So if I'm the GM and the head coach Michael,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get guys like I'm not thinking about draft
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: picks for the future. I'm putting together a team that
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: can win now and win this year.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Let's come back. The roster has been cut.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: It is set in stone on this show, at least
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: very loosely said Okay.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: We'll change it. We got another hour.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I guess Pete and I could change our minds at
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: any moment.
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• 42:37
  Speaker 3: The roster has been cut on the show. Coming up
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: in the second hour, we're gonna pick the schedule and
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, some losses for the season. So we're getting
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: a lot done in this show today, Tony. You I
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: haven't seen you move that fast since the in a
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: long time.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean because next week we have no show.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: Correct labor, get it in now.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: You gotta do everything now.
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: I've gotta make a week one. We gotta make a
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: week one prediction.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: Two monks, we need a lock or two.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I'll just I'm just gonna come out right now because
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I saw one of the questions about are we going
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: to lock anything tonight. I'm just telling everyone listening, I
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: am uncomfortable locking anything week one. Well that's every year.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: You didn't say that. No, No, I'm extra I'm extra uncomfortable.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: Why the opponent.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: I think if you the opponent on the road and
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: the back to the opponent. If you look at the
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: last two years under Mike McDaniel, they lighted up the
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: first two months of the NFL S. You want to
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: you want to catch score a.
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: Lot of points in that game for both teams.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: You want to catch Miami the second half of the season,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: and especially if you can catch them in December. Because
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I don't because one. You get to kind of read
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: on what they do and they slow down because of
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: just wear and tear. But early when they're fresh, whoa
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: the tractation.
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: For Jacksonville's wattles banged up with a calf injury that
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: takes That changes the dynamic of that offense.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: They have two weeks.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: He has two weeks to get it right.
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: How bad they're hurting. Oh, I'm not saying we're not
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: gonna win.
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not locking that either. That's that's a that's
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: a coin flip game. I think I think Jacksonville wins
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: a game, but I'm not locking.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Like I'll just give a little sneak preview when we
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: picked the wins and losses. I'll pick a win, but
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I think it's a tough game. Miami. Early
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: on the road down there be hot. It's just like
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: they're fast, Like this is hot.
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: It isn't hotter here than it is there. I can
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: tell you that right now.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: No it's not. But Pete, this is where they play
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: their best football. Inner Mike McDaniel. The first two years.
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: They're pretty, they're fun. It's just when they get hit
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: in the mouth that they're not the same team.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Well, like when you got to go grind it out right,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: they can't do it.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: And it'll be interesting to see the new Jazz Worse
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: defense that likes to gonna play a lot more pressman
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: press and Tyreek Hill and Jail and Watters.
• 45:06
  Speaker 8: Get your hands on him, don't miss, don't miss, and
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: don't and don't let that back get to the next
• 45:14
  Speaker 8: level because bye bye, he can fly.
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: He can, but they all can. Moster can fly too.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. They got. But they got a
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: track team. Yeah. Now I don't think they're great up front,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: but if they're getting out so fast, doesn't matter. And
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel will have a great run game plan.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: They do a bunch of like pre snaps.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Ship a bunch of shifts, move motions. They're going to
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: try to get leverage on you this eye candy misdirection.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: You're gonna really need to be specific on your rules
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: and your assignment, like you gotta p's and q's. You
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: gotta be ready and.
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: Tony, you know this. That's what young defensive teams playing
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: their first game are over aggressive. I'm gonna do this,
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna do that, and you get caught, and Mike
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: McDaniel is great at catching you in that.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Now, the one good thing I like about Ryan Nielsen
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: defense is Ryan's gonna keep it simple and let him
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: play fast.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to overcomplicate them. They'll have
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: a very simple, direct game plan so everyone knows what
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: to do on every snap, so you can go play
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: fast because the last thing you want to do, and
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: you know this is against a fast team shifting team,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: is get caught looking at everything and then you're a
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: step slower and you have no chance. Like, keep it simple,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: keep it simple, play fast.
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: If I'm playing Miami, I'm mugging Tyreek Hill, he's not
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: beating me. I'll put I'll put a guy right on him,
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: mug him, put a guy over the top on him.
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: If the other guys beat me, they beat me, but
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: he hadn't.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I would agree with you. I think it's I can't argue.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I would get my I get I probably match Tyson
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Campbell up with them with his length and his speed.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Beat the heck out of him and Tyson you're gonna
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: have help on the back ends.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: All right, guys, we gotta go second hour, we gotta
• 47:08
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• 47:12
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• 47:19
  Speaker 4: Listen, We're still developing, We're still working. There's some things
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: we gotta clean up from the game, you know, the
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: other night, and still working on situational things, you know,
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: as a team. And and then you know, once we
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: do get to you know, down to the.
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: You know, fifty three or so, and we get.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: Our practice squad guys back in here, then we can
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: kind of get into more of an in season routine
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: with them. You know, we'll look, we'll look a little
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: bit at Miami, you know, probably later in the week,
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: but right now it's still let's let's clean up the
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: game and and you know, continue to push.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: That's Doug Peterson and his approach to practice this week
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: before the bye weekend. Welcome Back.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: Before the game, after the game, and during the game.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: JP Shadwick with Tony Bisselli in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco down
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: in South Florida. The preseason's are rap. It's now roster
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: cut time. We did it in the first hour on
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: this show. They'll do it officially by four o'clock tomorrow
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: and it must be down to fifty three players.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: There's a waiver period then you can begin.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Signing practice squad players up to sixteen of those. Trent
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Balke and Doug Peterson are expected to meet the media
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: after the deadline tomorrow at around four forty five or so.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Jaguars executed a trade today Trevis Gibson defensive end sent
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: to the Seahawks for a late round pick. And then
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: the Jags on the practice field this week. They were
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: out there today and they'll be out there every day
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: through Thursday, then off Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Then it's week
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: one next week. That's the latest we have cut the roster.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: And now coming up in just a few minutes, we'll
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: pick the schedule losses.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Are we doing that?
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: We're doing that. Next segment that will be keeping it real,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: keeping it real? Wow?
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Tony, did you I forgot? Did you guys get
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: a three day weekend in the after the final week
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: of camp?
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah? The way it worked was we used to end
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: on Thursday, right, Yeah, we'd be the last game would
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: be Thursday, right, we would come in typically Friday. No,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: we'd have Friday. I'm sorry we would not come in Friday, Friday.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: We'd have Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: Off and come back Monday.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: No, we'd come in. I'm sorry, we come in Friday.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: We'd have Sunday, Saturday, Sunday Monday off, and then we'd
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: have Tuesday would be it. We'd have two Wednesdays. Tuesday
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: and Wednesday were Wednesdays of a game week. Thursday was
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Thursday Friday, and then you play. So we'd have we'd
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: have a three day weekend, come back and then heavy
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: practice Tuesday, heavy practice, Wednesday, heavy practice, Thursday, you know,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: nine on seven, all that, and then a Friday, normal Friday,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: normal Saturday, played the game opening day, so we didn't
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: have any We'd have two weeks like this, sixteen days.
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: It's amazing. It's a long time to go without playing football.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. So I think you got it. I mean,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I think you have to have some really physical practices
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: this week physical I do, keep it going. I do,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: and then you take and then you take the weekend
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: off and you get a game a game week. No,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: I have Actually, I don't know, Pete, I have no idea.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: I've not talked to anybody about what their plan is.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: So that was the answer to the question that I
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: asked about, Hey, do you go hard? Do you lay back?
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: That was what he said at the press conference today.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: But he just the way I heard him answer it was,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: we're not worried about Miami worse cleaning up stuff in
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: the game. Yeah. I don't know if that means they're
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: going hard cleaning it up or they're walking through cleaning
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: it up, or somewhere in between. I have no I
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: don't I I'm not being I have no idea, but
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: I would if it was up to me, I would
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: have a couple physical days this week because it's just
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: a long time, or at least one I would have. Yeah,
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I mean i'd have you know what one like on
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Thursday before they leave? Yeah, would you do it? It would
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: do it after the cuts though, right, Yeah, I do Wednesday.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Thursday would be full speed, like we're getting after it,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Like you show up. We're out there for an hour
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: and fifty whatever the maximum time I can do by
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: the CBA, and we're getting after you.
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: Wouln't want to do that before the cuts in case
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: somebody gets nicked up, Right, you're gonna cut That's why
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: I said Wednesday and thursdays, right, okay, then I take
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: players and then I would have a light then I
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: would have a light practice Friday, I give them Saturday, Friday,
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: I mean okay, then Friday off, Saturday off, Sunday off,
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: come back, Monday, Tuesday off and then normal week.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, so I would do but.
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: Then Monday would be it. Monday's a light day, Tuesday's
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: your whatdy call off dayDay, Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Wednesday's
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: heavy day, Thursday heavy day, and Friday at light day.
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, but they don't really have I don't know
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: if I do two days, I might just do one,
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: but I would do it the last one for sure.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: I would do too, because remember, as soon as you
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: start the regular season, you only have fourteen days of
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: pads you get for the rest of the year, right,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: you might as well get you might as well get
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: get after it because this is weeks there's no week one.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Would you wear pads Wednesday next week? Yes, you would
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: one of those fourteen and save the non pads for
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: later in the year.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, me too.
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: Got a hit.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: You got a hit, and I must and I could
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: just be a dumb a this doesn't know what he
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: was talking about. I mean, and maybe I'm just thinking wrong.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I still, for the life of me, thank you, Joe,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: for the life of me, don't understand how you get
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: better at a skill set without actually practicing it. In football,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, is a physical game,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and I played this position where it was physically demanding
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: and you had to work on getting your pads down.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: You had to work on passblok, you had to work
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: on double teams, you had to work on scoop walks,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: you had to work on re bus like that doesn't
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: happen without past Tony.
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: It's collectively bargained what.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: They I get that that's the fourteen padded practice for
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: the regular season. My understanding that starts week one of
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: the regular season. I don't think that is impacted by
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: this week. So take advantage of what the work you
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: can get in.
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: Or let him do more work. By the way, it
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: won't happen.
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: Is there any chance that we could clip that segment
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: when Tony said I'm a dumba and I don't know
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: nothing or I don't know anything. We could play that.
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: I'll just drop it every time.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Yeah, we'll do that.
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: Go ahead. I don't care.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: No, I really don't. You can run it. I've said,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: I've said dumber things.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: Uh, yeah, it's true.
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we've all said dumber things.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I mean my point is, I don't know how you
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: get better. How do you get better at something without
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: practicing it.
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: I'm with you. I think you got to be physical
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: this week. I don't know two days, but definitely one.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: This is the week. Get after it and then go
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: to Miami.
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: How do you how do you how do you work
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: on that speed you're gonna see?
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: You don't tell you you have nobody on your roster
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: who goes plays at the speed Tyreek Hill plays that.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: You don't somebody in the league that you can't. You
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: can't replicate that. They have speed, They have speed coming
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: out of the backfield. That. Yeah, not very many teams have.
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: Wattle can fly. But there's something different about Tyreek Hill.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill is built different. He is he's made different.
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: He goes non stop, and when he's in motion he's fast.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: And by the way, it's not his straight ahead speed,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: which is elite, it's his start and stop. It's his
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: lateral Like very few people who've ever played this game,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: there's a handful of them, but very few can move
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: at the speed he can straight ahead and the speed
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: he can from zero to one hundred, whether it's laterally
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: or vertically like the guy's amazing.
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: I don't know if there's I don't know if there's
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: anybody that's been able to because you know, he had
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: a lot of straight lines, like Bob Hayes was the
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: world's fastest human, but he was more of a straight
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: line guy when he played. You know the fact that
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: this guy can put his foot in the ground and
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: go across the middle and make you know, to change
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: a direction. I don't I don't know if we've ever
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: seen a speedy guy.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: He changes direction like Barry Sanders, and he runs straight
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: ahead like Bob Hayes.
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: That's incredible. That's bingo spot on.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: How do teams that have success against him do it?
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: You put a guy and get physical with him and
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: put someone over the top. And I agree with Pete,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: take him out, make somebody else beat you.
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: And the Patriots have done that at times against him
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: when Belichick was there. You know Belichick loves to do that.
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: They beat him up. Don't you can't you can't play
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: beat him up without the safety over the top, because
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: if you beat him up and you don't mint your
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: hands on him, one play, he's gone. So beat him
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: up with the safety over the top and let everybody
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: else beat you. If waddle beat you, if the tight
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: end beat you, if the running back speech out of
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: the backfield, so be it. He hadn't beaten me.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll never forget. I'm trying to think who was
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: the Patriots were playing somebody and this is a Loalkinsalez No, no, no,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: it was a long time ago, Pete. It was like
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: a Sunday night or a Monday there was a Monday
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: night game. Maybe it was a playoff game because I
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: was doing it for Westwood Wana And this was a
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: long time ago because I was doing sidelines and it
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: and I remember watching and and it's when they it
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: was the year they had Browner, the who came from
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Brandon Browner from the Seahawks, and they were playing somebody,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: and what they did is they put their number one
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: corner at the time, I can't remember who it was.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: It was a good player. They put him on the
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: number two receiver for whoever they're playing, and then they
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: put Browner in his safety over the top on the
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: number one player, and they basically Bill Belicher says, I'm
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: gonna take two guys to take out your best player,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna put my best corner on your second
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: best receiver and he'll take they'll take him out.
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: You sure it wasn't when they did that to Tony Gunzalez.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Could it possibly could have been beat But I'm saying
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: it was. It was. It was fascinating to watch the
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: strategy because he didn't say I'm gonna take my best
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: player and put him on your best player and see
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: what happens. He says, I'm gonna put my best corner
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: on your second best player and he'll just erase him.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: And then I'll take these two other guys that erase
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: your best player. And now you now you have to
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: go to your third option.
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: Well, now that in that scenario, you would put Campbell
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: on waddle, you would think, and then play Darby and
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: this other guy on.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Over the top. Yeah, I'm just saying that's what Bill.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: I found it fast. I'll never I'll never forget that
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: watching that game, I'm like, this is really interesting because
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: I would have thought if you were asked me, is
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: like go my best guy. I'm their best guy, and
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: maybe help that guy over the top and then put
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: my second. But he's like, no, I'll just all erase both.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I'll race two guys with three players.
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: And then you and then you look at Miami's tight ends.
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: If they beat you on the third receiver, they have
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: third receiver problems too, because Beckham hasn't practiced the entire summer.
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: They have third receiver problems, and they might have a
• 58:45
  Speaker 6: rookie in there as a third receiver. So, yeah, I'm
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: with you, Tony. He isn't beat me. Yeah, I think
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: I didn't arrest me for criminal conduct on the field
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: for what I do to Tyreek Candle if I'm playing
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: against him.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: I actually think that's the way you do it. Like
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: take away. They will take away the thing they want
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: to beat you with and just say you're gonna Mike McDaniel,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: you have to figure out another way to get me. Now,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: by the way, a couple they have a couple of
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: backs who can beat you. But okay, that's what you
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: lose to then, so be it. My hat.
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: Air's the problem with it. The only problem with it.
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: It's not like the old days where a guy would
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: line up over there, and you'd go over there and
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: and double them over that way. Tyreek Hill goes in
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: motion a ton of snap. It's hard to get your
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: hands on him when he's doing that, you know, to
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: mug him.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but just chase the guy with them and put
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: some more on the top.
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, all that pre snap stuff with those guys moving.
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: You're right, Pete, it's.
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: Just or do you not follow him with the guy
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: and let him come to the other side and the
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: other guy does.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: It, well, then you're playing zone. I mean, this team
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: wants to play man.
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: I know, but can you play man against that guy
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: with the guy with the guy?
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: We're gonna find We're about to find out.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Let's see what Ryan Nielson's thinking. I mean. The good
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: news neither of you are neither you or I or
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: JP or defensive coordinators, so we can come up with
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: any crazy ideas we want and nobody cares.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: I will say this this is We're gonna put a
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: ton of pressure on the down guys to stop the run,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: you know, because if you if you can't stop the run, Tony,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: they're just gonna run it and they're gonna have to
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 6: eventually bring the safety down. Then you got all kinds
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: of problems.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what Pete's saying there is can you
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: stop the run with a light box? Meaning if it's
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: a if it's regular personnel, can you stop it with
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: seven in the box? If it's sub can you stop
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: it with six in the box?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: Question? Is Armstead going to be available for week one?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Yes? Everything we I actually heard everything we've heard, Pete. Yes, Okay,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: I know I could see it being limited. Yeah, and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: his reps go up as the year goes on. I
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: agree with that too, But there's no indication that he's
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: not going to play.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: So how does the rotation go inside?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Well, right now, I mean a lot of things. I'm
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: speculating that he'sn't played more outside, So then that means
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: I still think your insights. I think does Eric Armstead
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: start or was he basically a sub player and a
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: backup end because your starting ends are Trayvon and Josh Right.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: Well, you didn't pay him to be a.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Sub end, well, Pete, everything we've heard is that he
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: came here to play in Is that not what you
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: for JP? It's what it feels like to me, and
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: that's what it feels.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: Like, okay, but if he's playing end where a walker?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: And uh, did you watch the game? Have you watched
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: him in the preseason? Peat very much like they changed
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: lines like a hockey team.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: I get it. I get it.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Like Ryan Nielsen's philosophy is like road mass substitutions, keep
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: these guys fresh.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: I get it. But okay, who's the starting interior guys?
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Then? Well, if it's not Eric Armstead, it's Devon Hamilton
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: and Roy Robinson, I guess, or Mason Smith, Roy Robertson, Harris,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Roy Robinson, Harris.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: Sorry, could Mason Smith start?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Huh? I'm like, okay, let's go through the names. If
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: it's not Roy Robertson Harris, it's either Jordan Jefferson, Mason Smith,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Tyler Lacey or the three technique is Eric Armstead Jefferson
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: is I get that. I'm just saying, but thank you.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: That's all that's left. So if I listen when they
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: first signed him, and what did Eric Armstead do last
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: year in San Francisco? He was a three technique, right,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: So I thought they signed him to be the three technique.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 6: And that's what he should be.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: But maybe that's what he'll be like, we have heard
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: nothing official from anybody.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: But I think that's something about this defense. You have
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: some flexibility with a couple of those guys. But who's
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: gonna start it? Speede's question, three techn was gonna start?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: You played one play and then they'll switch it in.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: You're missing the point. Who's going to be your three
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: technique rotation? Is it going to be Robertson, Harris and
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Mason Smith? That are going to be those guys that
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: you rotate because listen, you only can probably keep eight
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: active for game day.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: Okay, let's what if somehow Roy Robertson Harris was traded?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 6: Then what.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Pete. Now we're getting into territory scenarios.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Get that I don't want to play in.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: If they paid that guy to play in that's a mistake.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Well we're I don't know.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: Let's come back. You know, it'll clear all this up
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: when we picked the schedule next.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: We got a lot of questions going on, Pete. And
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: I'll give Pete credit. Usually he asked really dumb questions.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: He's got good ones. Today. He's he's on the point
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: questions always. You're on point today, Pete. JP's dad is
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  Speaker 5: Week one, the Jaguars at the Miami Dolphins. Pete, what
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  Speaker 5: do you like?
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  Speaker 6: Since I already play out the season, I'll go to
• 1:06:01
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  Speaker 5: Jags are two and oh in both schedules right now.
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  Speaker 3: Week three, Monday Night Football in Buffalo loss.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, it beat the Bills last year. I didn't say
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: it couldn't, but Monday night, Buffalo's tough place to play.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 6: Tough, tough place.
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  Speaker 5: Week four at Houston.
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  Speaker 2: Loss Okay Tony.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: When Tony's at three and one, Pete is at two
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  Speaker 3: and two through four weeks for the Jaguars Week we
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  Speaker 3: five against the Indianapolis Colts.
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  Speaker 2: Here win.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, Okay three and two, both both
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: records now three and two at London at Spurs against
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: the Bears.
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  Speaker 6: When I gave an l.
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  Speaker 3: Okay across town in London at Wembley against New England
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  Speaker 3: Week seven?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: When when.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Okay back in the.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: States the next week against the Green Bay Packers at.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Home loss.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: At the Eagles Sunday Night Football Week nine loss.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: Loss home against the Minnesota Vikings. Week ten?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: When when.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: At the Detroit Lions Week eleven loss, tonyoss Week twelve
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: bye week?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: When when that that's great against Houston at home? Week thirteen?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: When when.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: At Tennessee Week fourteen win loss loss for Pete?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: I mean the demons could come out all the time
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: at that place.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they do.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: It's a strange place to play for the Jags home
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: Week fifteen against the Jets win win at the Raiders
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: week sixteen, when win home against the Titans Week seventeen,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: When when at dy Week eighteen loss? When Well, Tony's
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: got a six game win streak to end the season.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: I think they played better at the end this year seven.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: Eight, nine.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: They played better at the end last year.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: To twelve and five for Tony Pete is one two, three, four, five, six, seven,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: eight and nine, nine and eight for Pete twelve six
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: game streak to run into the number one seed.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: I mean based on last year's history of just ripping
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: off those wins at the end of last season, I
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: can see where he's coming from.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Like, if I was gonna say anything, i'd change one thing.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: I go to eleven and six. I think they're gonna
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: be for whatever reason, I got a sense they're gonna
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: be three and two. I guess I got them met there.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: I'd probably flip the Colts, and I think they're gonna
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: be three and two going into London.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 6: The only one on mine that I would think about
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 6: flipping is the Bears in in London.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a rookie quarterback in London.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: Ye, Yeah, that's the one I would think about flipping.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: Because you had in that game, Pete.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean just because anything's po I mean,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: the Bears are gonna be pretty good.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: Now, Tony you got to win, Yeah, they are. Tony
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: got them winning three of the first four, a bunch
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: of road games there. It's a tough start with the schedule.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: Nothing you could be No.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if I if I was gonna flip anything, i'd
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: flip the uh the Colts loss to a win and
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: make either Miami or Houston think they're gonna be thre
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: and two. I don't care how they get there. I
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: think they're gonna be three and two going into London.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: The first five of the first five. That's my point.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: So I was like the ones I don't like, I don't.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: I'm a coin flip for me. I think they win
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: against Miami. I think it's a coin flip. I think
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: it's a coin I think it's.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: A coin flip.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: In Houston. I just think they win. And I think
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Colts are better than anyone thinks they're gonna be this year,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: and I think that's a tough game early.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I flipped the Bears would be the one I
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: would flip. And then I mean I don't think they're
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 6: better than the Packers, but they could win that game
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: at home.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: Oh goshya. Like I said, I'll be honest with you,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: I got a little silly at the end to say,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: because I think they're gonna win eleven games. I have
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: them at twelve here, but I think they're gonna be
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: eleven and six. I think they win the division and
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: they'll either be the two or three seed.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: How many games do the Texans win?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Ten? I think they're a wild card team.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: Wow, So you you have Jacksonville winning that division. I mean,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 6: it wouldn't surprise me if they won a division. But yeah,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: because I think the Texans, I think that the Texans
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: slow the roll a little bit. I mean, seriously, what.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Do you mean they got they have? They got Dan Marino,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: they got they got uh, John Stallworth, Jerry Rice, Walter Payton,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: John Randall, John Defense. I mean college, you're not paying
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: attention to this offseason?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: Starting in this two rookies starting in the secondary.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's Darrelle Revis and uh and Darryl Green?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah? Am I wrong about that? I mean everywhere you
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: look across the league, Texans, Texans.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: I've said it everywhere that. I think the Texans are
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: going to be a good football team, but not great.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: Not a great one. They're good.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna win nine or ten games. I
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: think we're gonna win between ten and twelve. I think
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: we win the division. I think will be anywhere from
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: a two seeds to a four seed.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: But Pete, you got uh Houston winning the division?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 6: He does, but I have him the same record, so
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 6: I gotta figure that.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, so it comes down to that last I
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: just think I just think that.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 6: I mean, look, would I do it? Yeah, yeah, probably
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 6: nine and eight, nine and eight. I mean the division
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 6: is going to be tight. Every game in that division
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: is gonna be hard to win. I mean going to
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 6: Tennessee is never easy. Tennessee coming to Jacksonville has never
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: been easy.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, should we remind everybody about last year?
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: Well, and here's their thing, Pete, No, you don't need
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: to look at the division like it's been a different
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: division winner the last three years, four years or three
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: years for sure. As a Colts That's my point is
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: Titans won, we won, Texans won, and I don't know why.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: I just think the culture going to be better than anyone.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: Thinks can Richardson stay on the field.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: That's the big unknown. I think, you know, if he
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: stays healthy the way Shane Steiken will use him, he's
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: gonna be dangerous to use legs. That hamstring will go
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: any minute. Well, that could be it. But I think
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be pretty good defensively. They pick they got
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: out of U. C.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: L A.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be end up being the best
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: defensive Plato's will be the best defensive player in the draft.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: And they got a bunch of guys that can go
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 6: after the quarterback. Now, the suspension of Stewart won't help
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: him any no, right.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Right, that's for the first four games. He'll be rolling
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: back and legs.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 6: Their secondary has major questions. They got a lot of
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: young guys there.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Young guys, but they got they all played last year. Pete.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and Gus. Gus is a good defensive coordinator, so
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 6: that'll help them. Yeah, I don't know. I I it's
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 6: there's a team that everybody likes to give the GM
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 6: like all his you know, Oh, he's the greatest, He's
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: the great guy. Hadn't won a title since he's been there,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 6: A division title.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: Not one Indy talking about oh not one good point?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: All right, the schedule has picked.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: Pete has him nine and eight, finishing second in the division,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: Tony twelve and five.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: Officially, I will.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Probably let's make an official eleven and six, okay. I
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: don't know where they'll change three seed, two or three seed.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: I think they end up being eleven and six two
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: or three seed.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: And Pete, they're not getting a wildcard at nine and
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: eight missing the division title, are they?
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: They still could? He still could? I mean, look, the
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: AFC North is going to beat the daylights out of
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 6: each other.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: So Pete real quick, because we'll get because we'll come
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: back and do the questions. Tell me your division winners
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: and your two wildcard teams or three wildcard teams.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: I guess three card seat Buffalo okay, Bengals okay, Chiefs.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: And Texans okay, and three wildcards.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 6: Ravens, Jets, Jaguars okay.
• 1:15:11
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• 1:15:14
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• 1:15:19
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• 1:15:21
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• 1:15:29
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  Speaker 4: No, I think Trevor's really really grown under center. You know,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: he's getting more comfortable with it.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 6: I like it.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: It's kind of the traditional, you know, part of the offense,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: but you know it just I think too it kind
• 1:16:05
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• 1:16:07
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  Speaker 2: What do you think of that?
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: By the way, the under center idea for is that
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: much of a difference for you, Pete, Well.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: Like he said, it's it's less of an indicator, I think,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 6: but that the transition has been Trevor didn't do any.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: Of that zero They ran shatgun all the time.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's taken a little time to get that,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: you know, into the offense. But I thought he looked
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: comfortable with it, and I think he has looked comfortable
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 6: with it. So I'm okay with it. As long as
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 6: they limit those stupid bubble screens fourteen times a game,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 6: I'm fine with it. Whatever they do to get the
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 6: ball down the field.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: I actually think it helps you on your run game
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: and your play action pass. Working from the center, I
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: think it gives you more opportunities to move the pocket.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter how many backs, Like if it's like
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: a tight end coming to play full back, no, you.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: Can go single back. We used to do single back
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: out underneath all the time.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And like Ingram had a really nice lead block
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: on one of those runs where he came in, came
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 6: through and led through, and so yeah, you could, you could.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 6: I mean there's ways to do it without having the
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 6: two backs. I mean it's a lot of teams are
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: doing it that way. Yeah.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: But but the question is what do they get out
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: of him being underneath center. I think it gives you
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: more flexibility to disguise things. I think it helps the
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: run game, and I really think it helps the play
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: action pass.
• 1:17:47
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  Speaker 3: one sixth C. I know it was a preseason game.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: Did you think Trevor looked very poised in the pocket
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: and is looking to spread the field more. I feel
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: as the wide receivering corps is perfectly balanced to the
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: point where Trevor will have his best season of his career.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: Did he look poised?
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: I think I wouldn't use this third preseason game to
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: determine whether he's poised or not. Yes, he looked great,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: was not under much pressure.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: No, nobody, nobody crossed the line of scrimmen except at
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 6: one time when they beat Sheriff.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: I think the one thing I would say that I
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: agree with the the X poster here is I do
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: think the receivers are. I think you're gonna see the
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: ball go to the guy who's open. I don't think
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: he's gonna feel like he's forcing things. I think last
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: year at times they tried to get Calvin Ridley going
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: and involved, and it felt it felt forced. I don't
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: think you'll have that this year. I think he's gonna
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: take what the defense gives him. I think that the
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: offense will run through Kirk and Ingram, but I don't
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: think they're going to force it to anyone to get
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: anyone involved, which I think will help Trevor quite a bit.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: You know what. The one time, this is a minor
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: criticism of mine for the other night shock when Trevor,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: when Trevor ran, I thought he left the pocket that
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: was relative step up. That's a step up pocket. If
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: you go look, remember.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: Is that what they call it? A step up pocket.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: That's step up, step up pocket. Yeah.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: But because Damn Robinson's guy kind of came up behind
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 6: it was.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: It was a short corner, Pete, if you go watch
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: it again, go watch the tape again. It was a
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: short corner. I actually don't blame him for doing what
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: he did.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: Short corner. Explain that quickly.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: That short edge. I thought, Cam uh gave a short corner,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: so the guy got a good rush on him. Cam
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: kept his hands on him, trying to run him around.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: But it was right at the top of where Trevor
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: should have been, and he had. It wasn't like a
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: natural step up. He had to kind of rush up,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: I thought, And that I think led to him. Now.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Couldn't have stayed in the pocket, Yeah, probably, but I
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: think the dynamic of how quick it happened forced him
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: on the move quicker than he was ready to be.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but again, he could have stepped off.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: He could have, he could have he could have created
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: a step up pocket. This Pete likes to say that
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: it's a new term. I wonder ifu'l see that I'm
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: gonna step up pocket? According to you.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: Know how they all call plays concepts. Now. Yeah, so
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: that's the cool buzzword. You've heard that all every show now, right.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: The new show here, the show it was a step
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: up pocket. Well that in the broadcast step up pocket?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: What the hell is that? Well, that's Pete, he told
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: me about it.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 6: Step up in the damn pocket. That's what you do.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: All these kids nowadays, they ever want to leave don't.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: Leave safer in the pocket.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 6: Beat. They haven't learned that yet, have they. No, you
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 6: know what, Tony, you know what they'd always do though,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: when you say that they always go to the stat Well,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 6: there's been as many injuries inside the pocket as there
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 6: have been when guys running. That's because there's more plays
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 6: inside the pocket than there are running.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: It should be what how what's the percentage of injuries?
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 6: Right right?
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: Next question that Tartan teal with Gibson traded away, what
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: are your thoughts on the Jags edge jet Do you
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: think Coleman slash cole are going to be enough if
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: Trayvon or heinz Allen can't.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: Play at any point?
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: I was surprised, and I also think it speaks to
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: that they are considering the only read I can get
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: on because I thought Gibson was your best backup outside
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: of unless you're considering Eric Armstead as a defensive end.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: And I wonder if they are basically saying Armstead is
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: a defensive end. So there was they had the ability
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: to go get what they could could get for Gibson,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: but I was a little bit surprised by the move.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 6: Should they have gotten in under Judon.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Thing, No, I agree, No, not for a third rounder
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: and have the redo his contract.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 5: So Reddick putting Reddick out there or kind of the
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: same idea, and.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 6: He wants a new contract. You can pay that guy.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna pay.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 6: You paid your guys, pay you paid one of your
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: beast rushers. You're not gonna do that.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: And guess what what what's gonna happen If Trey Von
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: gets you know, fifteen sacks or twelve sacks this year,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be wanting after his third year. Hey, I
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: want to get paid now. You don't have to. You
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: have two years and they won't pay him. I don't
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: think next year. But you're gonna take care. I mean,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: you got two good ends. You're not gonna go pay
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: Judan and give a third rounder for that.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: Come on, next question at mac Dad, Matt. Should we
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: still be worried about the interior offensive line? How did
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: they look.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: Look fine against the guys that are blocking? They'd it fine?
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: Am I still concerned?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 6: Yes?
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: I'm not panic.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: When will you stop being concerned.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: After we win the Super Bowl?
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 6: No, after after a month. If they're good after a month,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 6: you don't concern you're not concerned anymore.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: And good is keeping the pocket.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 6: You want to run the ball, run the ball and
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 6: protect the quarterback. Run the ball. When you need to
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 6: run the ball and want to run the ball and
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: protect the quarterback, they do that.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: How about this, we know when you see it, be
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: in the top third of the league and third third,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: short percentage conversion fourth and short conversion and yards per carry,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: like be in the top ten.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 6: Talk about the interior pressure and that's okay.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: My point is like, like, control the line of scrimmage.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying you have to be the best. Just
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: control the line scrimmage, all right, simple enough? I mean,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: And when will I not be worried? And this is
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: not a Jaguar issue only Pete brought it up earlier.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: The depth in this league on the offensive line, there's
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: not a lot of it. And you and you just
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: hope you have actually you have depth on this team
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: at tackle. I'm not sure how much depth you have
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: day one on the interior. Now, give Cooper Hodges a
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: few weeks. And because I'm a big believer in him,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be a good player, I just
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: don't think he's ready yet.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 6: And so.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: Getting in we we basically don't think Hans makes the team.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: So who's your backup guard if one of those guys
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: gets hurt. Not a lot of depth. Not a lot
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: of depth. I mean, you're gonna have to go with
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: the Hodges and you're gonna have to put him in there,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: and it's gonna be sink or swim. Buddy, Let's find
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: out what you got. Let's hope we don't find out.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: Let's hope that Sheriff and Ezra Cleveland stay healthful.
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  Speaker 6: It ain't like you got John Hannah and Gene Upshew either,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: you know, as starters.
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  Speaker 2: Well, those would be two all fat, not very Nobody
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: has those two, by the way, just for the record,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: just to say set the record straight. Nobody does.
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  Speaker 6: Okay. But what I'm saying, it's not like, Okay, if
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 6: you had to rank the starting guards in Jacksonville among
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: the league's thirty two pairs of guards, where would they rank?
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 6: Middle of the road.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that probably. I mean we have to
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: go through let's not do that guards in the NFL.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: But I don't. I mean, they're not the bottom beat.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're not the top either.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 6: But bad offensive lines in the NFL, they're right in
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 6: the middle.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: Next question at the Ostromano five, how will USC and
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: Arizona State doing the new conferences?
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 6: If?
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: Well, like fight on for allness? I love them to death.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: I'm concerned. We open up with LSU in Vegas, and
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: then I believe right after that game we cruise out
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: to Ann Arbor and play Michigan in the Big House.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: I think that's our first two games. I'm not mistaken.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: Welcome to and I'll add this to mine.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 6: Arizona State's picked last in the Big twelve, last last possible.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: It's such a physical conference. At least we're going to
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: a real conference.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 6: I mean, I just don't understand it. How can they
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 6: be last? The worst team? That's Arizona State. It's a
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 6: great place to go to school.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: What's the hell I keep saying that?
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: Excuse me? I stand corrected. We open up with LSU.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: I thought that was in Vegas. Maybe it's in LSU.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: I think it's in Vegas. It's in Vegas. Yeah, it's
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: in Vegas. Then we we we do have Utah State
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: and then we have a bye week thankfully you'll need it,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: and then we go to Michigan.
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  Speaker 6: The sad thing about USC going to the Big Ten
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 6: is this is not a good USC team to go
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: to the Big Ten. In years past, it would have
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 6: been like, Wow, yes she's going. This is not a
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: good USB.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: How about how many games does see win? I know
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: no one cares about this except for me, but let's
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: do this real quick.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: I'm going through the schedule.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm just gonna read them out.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 8: You can.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna ask win a lossuits. So we got LSU,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: Utah Michigan, then Wisconsin at home at least, then at Minnesota,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: then Penn State at home, then at Maryland, Rutgers at Washington, Nebraska,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: U C l A, notre Day. Wow, that is a
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: tough schedule.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 6: You'll probably win five games.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: I have this at seven. But I mean, you're not
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: gonna I'm not gonna argue with you.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 6: How about that ASU schedule? Out of the gate, Wyoming,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 6: Mississippi State at home, and Texas State they could be
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 6: three and oh out of the gate?
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: Owens a gonna happen?
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 6: Happen? They're not good. They're not good. It's just mystifying
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 6: to me, how could they not be good.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: I'm going to an Alabama game this weekend as a
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: fan for the first time since college.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: Who do they play? Western Kentucky not intercided one week?
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 6: We can't even talk comparing to like the SEC schools
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 6: because we're on They're on a different plane when it
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 6: comes to everything.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: I actually think it just means more, Pete, it does
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: mean more in the South, it does.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 6: It still slow does and more.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not arguing it's called football is more important in
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: the South than it is in California and in Arizona.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 6: There's a question.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not like, I can't anywhere. I can't argue with that. However,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: I do think within five years, USC will be one
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: of the best teams, if not playing for a national title,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: because what the Big Ten will force them to do
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: to their roster, and they have the brand and the
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: ability to recruit anywhere they want.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 6: They don't have the they don't like that.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: And the Alabama.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 6: Has twenty volunteer assistant coaches. I mean, come.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: One go look at what they're doing at SC. I'm
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: not saying this year, will the coach survive seven and five?
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think so let's get our last question in yep.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 5: Sorry, Johnny Rae college USC football.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: This is the bonus pod later every year. Sorry, I
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: have one game that circled on the schedule. What game
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: is that this year for the Jags. One game to
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: circle on the schedule.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: To me, it's the first Houston game at Houston Week four.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: You go win out there NRG Stadium. He beat them there.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: Everyone's talking out great there, go win that one first
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: division game. I think that's a big one.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 6: I see, I agree with you all on that one.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 6: But I also think if you can like beat the
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 6: Packers at home, I think the Packers going to In fact,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 6: I might pick the Packers go to the super Bowl
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 6: in the NFC.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: I'll give you another one that will change the feeling
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: nationally of this team. Go beat Buffalo on Monday night early. Yeah. Like, like,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: if you're let's say you're one on one, let's say
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: split the first two, then those next two you can
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: circle you go beat Buffalo. Or if you can go
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: up there too and zero and then go beat Josh
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: Allen up there, Everyone's like, oho, oh these guys are good.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: That the Houston big But I mean my point is
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: it just changes the national perception of beating Buffalo up
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: there because they're one of the darlings. They're one of
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: the darling brands. They got one of the best quarterbacks
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: in the league. I mean, but.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 6: Really, when you look at it, on the surface, there's
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 6: not an easy and no game is easy NFL. But
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 6: on the skeed until you get to New England, there's
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 6: not an easy game on that schedule. Because Cleveland I'd
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 6: be pretty good.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: I think the first five are brutal, I mean, tough games.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: To your point, Pete, every you can lose every week
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. There are no easy ones. But those
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: are five demanding, physical games. The first five. I'm not sold,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: like Pete is on the on the Bears. I don't
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: think their offensive line is any good, and they have
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback who I think is gonna be great,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: but he's still a rookie going to London. I don't
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not the Bears. I'm not sold on the Bears.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, but then you go then you go Patriots,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 6: and you go Packers, Eagles.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: My point is, you have five in a row that
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: are tough. I think you have a two week reprieve
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: this and you're in London. I think that's vanage Jaguars
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: and then you come packing up Packers Eagles right like
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: It's like seven of the first nine are brutal.
• 1:31:24
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• 1:32:00
  Speaker 6: You know, you're seeing a guy that.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: Is like a sponge. I mean, he's just he's eating
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: up you know, all the coaching points and it's really
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: has been beneficial to him on the field. You're seeing
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: his length show up, You're seeing his power and explosive
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: this show up and just continues to get better, you know,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: each week, just continues to improve and and you know it.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: You see his speed, that athleticism you know on tape
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: and the physicality part of it I think shows up.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: Doug Peterson on Trayvon Walker earlier today and welcome back
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hours. He Shadwick Tony ROUSSELLI, Pete Prisco, Yes, Tony.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: I was listening to Doug and I wish I would
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: have said this before I heard that, because I'm jumping
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: on the bandwagon. I think Trayvon has the biggest jump
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: of anyone on this team from last year to this year.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: That's a pretty big job. He had a big year.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: I think he is one. I think we have two
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: of the best defensive ends in the league combination. I
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: think we have the best combination of defensive ends in
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: the league. I said twenty five sacks last year. I
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: think they have twenty seven this year combined. And I
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: think it wouldn't surprise me if Trayvon had as many
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: sacks as Josh did. I think Trayvon's gonna have a
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: huge year. I think Josh is gonna have a huge year.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: I think Josh is going to be is going to
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: earn every dime, improved everyone that he is the game.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: Wrecord that Pete Persco said he.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 6: Was not, and you said the same thing.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: I did not that. We can you know I did not, Pete.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: You talked to him about that, right, I did not
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: say that.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: I did talk to about it. You did say I asked.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: I asked the question you said, No, I did not. No,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: I did not.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 6: Well, get tape, play the play the tape.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: Play the tip. I think Trayvon is going to have
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: a huge year.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 6: And you know what, he's the guy's critical of him
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 6: last year, more so maybe than most people, because he
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 6: doesn't he does run right into the center of the tackle.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: He did that last year. I'm in agreement with you one.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 6: I think Walker is going to be outstanding this year.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: All the conversations Pete that we've had the last two years,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: and less about you and I but everyone across the
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: league comparing him to Aiden Hutchinson and how Aiden Hutchins
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: should have been the pick. He's so much better, blah
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. I think it will be so
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: obvious by halfway through this year and by the end
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: of the year that the Jags got it right that
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: Traymon is the better football player, better defensive end, and
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: I think he will be a dominant left end. I
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: think we have two really good players at those positions,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: and I think they're gonna give fits to offenses.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 6: And I think playing the style they'll play now fits them.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: I do too.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with you, one of the most approved players
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 6: in the league.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: He looks so good in camp and they're both to
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: eighty five. Like if you go now, I know it
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: was against backupslot like the two of them were meeting
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: at the quarterback.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 6: Ever rush attack just physically.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: Both those tackles had no chance. They were on skates
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: and Trayvon. What I liked about it because Pete's right.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: Last year my criticism was he went down the middle
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: too much. If you watch the tape and watch him, like,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: he gets on the edge better and he's rushing at
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: half a man. And here's the thing about Trayvon. He
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: still doesn't use his length the way he should. No,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: and if he ever figures had out, my goodness, I
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: don't want to play right tackle against that dude, because
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: that's how talent thirteen.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 6: Each thirteen fourteen for one and thirteen for the others.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: What you're saying, I got twenty seven?
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so fourteen for Walker because you think you have
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 6: more and third, No.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm not saying who's gonna have more
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: or less. I think twenty seven combined. By the way,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: I said, I wasn't locking anything locked that twenty seven.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: Minutes ago, and he's got.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 6: A lock lock, so twenty seven and you gotta figure
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 6: there's a team. Then you're gonna give him how many.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: I haven't thought about that Airic Comstead. I'm gonna say
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: forty five. Yeah good.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 6: You gotta figure he'll get six seven, right, So that.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: Gives you thirty two, thirty three. Like, here's the problem
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: to make. Where else is the pass rush coming from
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: besides those two air coarmstead for sure? And then you'll
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: get some blitzes like I think Antonio Johnson is gonna
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: be a great blitzer.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 6: I like that he go, he'll get He'll get four
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: or four, and then you get a corner blitz here
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 6: there Roberts and Harris, if you still your roster might
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: get you four.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: He'll get a canvall. I think Mason Smith by the
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: end of the year is gonna be a guy who
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: gets you three or four because he has a good.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 6: You're goula have, So you're gonna have to get if
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: twenty seven, you're gonna have to get eighteen from other guys,
• 1:36:47
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  Speaker 5: No show next week. See you boys to leaving early.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 5: He's out of here, Pete. He's walking out of the studio.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: We're still in the air. He's waving over.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 6: I heard the music. He said, we had to shut out.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: You messed up last time. I didn't take us out.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 5: That's Tony BISSELLI, Pete Priscoe. I'm J. P. Shaddick. Thanks
• 1:37:16
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• 1:37:20
  Speaker 5: We'll see in two weeks on Jaguars Happy Hour.