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Nick Underhill on Saints QB1 (Kind Of), Auburn’s Mickey Mouse Titles, and Bad Nicknames · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 3: Back in now number three, O TV one, O four five,
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  Speaker 3: ESPN Baton Rouge. Let's go ahead and go to the
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  Speaker 3: phone lines. Now, all right, guy Nick Underhill, New Orleans
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  Speaker 3: Dot Football joins us to break it all down.
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  Speaker 4: Nick, what's going on?
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  Speaker 5: Man?
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  Speaker 4: How you doing great?
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  Speaker 3: How you guys doing doing fantastic? So go ahead and
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  Speaker 3: tell us who the starting quarterback is.
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  Speaker 5: Man, I don't know. I want to hear you guys.
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  Speaker 5: Who do you guys got?
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  Speaker 6: All right?
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  Speaker 4: All right, so I'll give you my breakdown.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, they both have moments, they both kind of and
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  Speaker 3: Matt and I were just talking about during the break
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  Speaker 3: you kind of flip the preseason games.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of the same thing, right.
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  Speaker 3: Tyler came in the first game look really good in
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  Speaker 3: the second half of a preseason game. Same thing for
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  Speaker 3: Spencer in this last game. Here is why I think
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  Speaker 3: that Spencer Ratler should be the starting quarterback. This is
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  Speaker 3: going to be an off schedule team. When you look
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  Speaker 3: at the troubles they've had on the interior of their
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  Speaker 3: offensive line, it is going to be chaotic. And I think,
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  Speaker 3: now this isn't fair necessarily to Tyler Shuck, but Spencer
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  Speaker 3: Rattler plays better with chaos around him than Tyler Shuck does,
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  Speaker 3: and I just think there's going to be a lot
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  Speaker 3: of chaos, and so I think the race is tight.
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  Speaker 3: I think they both give you something. They offer something
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  Speaker 3: that could help you win games. But I think because
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  Speaker 3: of what I'm expecting to be in front of Spencer
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  Speaker 3: Rattler or whoever the Saints quarterback is, I would go
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  Speaker 3: with Spencer Ratler because I think he can make more
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  Speaker 3: off schedule plays than Tyler Shuck.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I think the best thing that Spencer does, I
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  Speaker 5: think is that fearlessness too. Like he will he would
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  Speaker 5: stand in the middle of a highway and get hit
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  Speaker 5: by a semi to get a pass off, like he'll
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  Speaker 5: just like totally stretch out that that porso just take
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  Speaker 5: a big hit in the ribs and fire the ball
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  Speaker 5: in there. And I think that's the best thing he does.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I think one thing that's gonna help that offense.
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  Speaker 5: But like whenever McCoy's out there, like it's gonna look
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  Speaker 5: way different. And I'm not making a public defense of
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  Speaker 5: scujar Ruizer, but there's a lot of stuff I've seen
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  Speaker 5: on like sociale Lame vot eminem When you go through
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  Speaker 5: the film, it's it's like, actually Simpkins like make it
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  Speaker 5: up a lot of mistakes. So I think when McCoy
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  Speaker 5: gets out there, that was quite a bit too. I
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  Speaker 5: still believe it's the same thing I said last week,
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  Speaker 5: and I thought this game was a was a further
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  Speaker 5: uh further evidence of it. They very very very clearly
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  Speaker 5: want Tyler Shuffel in this battle, Like they give him
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  Speaker 5: the two receivers they they put they let him, you know,
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  Speaker 5: finish the whole half, like they absolutely want him to
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  Speaker 5: be the guy. I don't know which direction it goes.
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  Speaker 5: I think if I were making the decision, I would
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  Speaker 5: probably come up with the plan right now where I
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  Speaker 5: would give Spencer the first four games and let it
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  Speaker 5: go from there. My expectation would be, and I'm speaking
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  Speaker 5: as if I'm their coach, not like myself, like they
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  Speaker 5: dropped to Chuck. They want Chuck to play. They want
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  Speaker 5: him to get most of the games. They want to
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  Speaker 5: evaluate him. They think he has a chance to be
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  Speaker 5: their future. They made that decision with Rattler on their team,
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  Speaker 5: like they want it to go that way. I think
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  Speaker 5: they'd be open minded the new new information. Obviously, my
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  Speaker 5: plan right now, if I were the coach of the team,
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  Speaker 5: I would say, all right, I'm gonna get Spencer Arizona,
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  Speaker 5: Sam fran Seattle and Buffalo, knowing that those games are
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  Speaker 5: probably gonna be really, really hard and at the end
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  Speaker 5: of it, you know that that could be something where
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  Speaker 5: you're owing four and complete and fifty two percent of
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  Speaker 5: your passes have you know, twice as many interceptions as touchdowns,
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  Speaker 5: and you are in a very bad spot. I would
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  Speaker 5: give those the Spencer, knowing that my guy like is
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  Speaker 5: staying clean from that, gets a chance to come in
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  Speaker 5: and maybe not go through that gauntlet and have a
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  Speaker 5: clean start in week five, maybe some of the Lloyd's
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  Speaker 5: to silence. But on the other end of Spencer goes
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  Speaker 5: through that and he excels like there you go like
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  Speaker 5: you got great information, and you keep them in there
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  Speaker 5: and you let them keep rolling. But that would probably
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  Speaker 5: be my plan at the beginning of it. I think
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  Speaker 5: it's I really do think it's a coin flip. I
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  Speaker 5: hate to be a prisoner of the moment. The deciding
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  Speaker 5: factor for me would be, like basically what you were saying,
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  Speaker 5: Spencer is is better in chaos, and in chaos. We've
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  Speaker 5: seen Tyler Shuck like kind of like flit the ball away,
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  Speaker 5: and we've seen him do that in a training camp
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  Speaker 5: practice and I thought that was his worst moment of camp.
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  Speaker 5: And if you go to his college film and there's
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  Speaker 5: one of those where he kind of puts it away
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  Speaker 5: and it turns into a pick six, like it's a
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  Speaker 5: thing he does. I would assume they've reconciled that in
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  Speaker 5: their mind that like, this isn't a huge deal right now.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's one of those things where if you
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  Speaker 5: don't fix it, it ends up defining who you are
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  Speaker 5: as a quarterback. But they must think that they can
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  Speaker 5: fix it. But for me, that would be the deciding
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  Speaker 5: factor right now, Like it just feels like Spencer's more
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  Speaker 5: more in a in a spot where he can kind
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  Speaker 5: of handle some really nasty, top ugly stuff and you know,
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  Speaker 5: Shuck kind of flicked the ball away, and like that's
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  Speaker 5: it's not a it's not a break point for me
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  Speaker 5: right now, Like it's way too early to be talking
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  Speaker 5: like that, but like it's something that's on that list
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  Speaker 5: of things that's like you can't let this keep out,
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  Speaker 5: Like that has to change like immediately, and we've seen
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  Speaker 5: it twice now since he's been there.
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  Speaker 6: Well, Rattler is has shown to be better with chaos
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  Speaker 6: around him, but Shucks certainly hasn't shown that he's better
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  Speaker 6: than Rattler in a pocket. With a clean pocket. I
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  Speaker 6: think they've both been pretty good at going through their reads.
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  Speaker 6: Their completion percentage has been pretty good. They've run the offense,
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  Speaker 6: but things are going to break down. We just don't
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  Speaker 6: have the personnel the roster to have it look clean
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  Speaker 6: every single play. Nobody does. So I guess I want
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  Speaker 6: to kind of go back to, like what is the
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  Speaker 6: what's what's the basis of thinking, like they want Shuck
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  Speaker 6: to be the quarterback? What like why why do you
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  Speaker 6: think that they are want to push that? And I
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  Speaker 6: guess the statement like they desperately want him to be
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  Speaker 6: the starting.
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  Speaker 5: Guy, Well I would have worried desperately, but I mean yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I mean yeah. On April on April twenty fifth, twenty
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  Speaker 5: five at six PM, they had Spencer Ratler on their
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  Speaker 5: roster and they decided at like you know, six forty
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  Speaker 5: five pm to draft Tyler Shuck and said, this is
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  Speaker 5: our guy, and that's the fortieth pick in the draft.
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  Speaker 5: And you could have used that pick to draft a
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  Speaker 5: wide receiver that you need. You could have used that
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  Speaker 5: pick to draft the tight end that you need. They decided, no,
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  Speaker 5: this guy is the guy that's going to give us
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  Speaker 5: a better chance to win. Knowing that Derek Carr was
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  Speaker 5: leaving their building. So basically they were looking at it
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  Speaker 5: right there at that moment, like who's going to give
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  Speaker 5: us the best chance of start in the game. And
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  Speaker 5: I think you know that that's my interpretation of it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think they they decided that they could
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  Speaker 5: get a better player than Rattler. And you know, you
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  Speaker 5: don't draft the left tackle if if you feel good
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  Speaker 5: about your left tackle. And I know it's a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of a different position, but you know, they could
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  Speaker 5: have very easily made a decision, Hey, we're going to
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  Speaker 5: get a wide receiver to to support Spencer. We're gonna
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  Speaker 5: go out, We're gonna get a veteran backup, a non
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  Speaker 5: threatening veteran backup to put behind him that can you know,
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  Speaker 5: maybe help mentor this room or whatever and go that way.
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  Speaker 5: But they made the decision that we're gonna go all
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  Speaker 5: young guys. It's one of these guys is gonna win.
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  Speaker 5: And I think every single every single thing we've seen
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  Speaker 5: is kind of been sacking the back toward giving him
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  Speaker 5: the more advantageous situations to succeed in the preseason. And
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  Speaker 5: if they didn't have a lean towards Tyler's shop, I would,
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  Speaker 5: you know, from my role where I would have to
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  Speaker 5: sit back and say, like, what are you guys doing?
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  Speaker 5: Like why would you draft this guy and not try
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  Speaker 5: to post an environment for him to succeed If you
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  Speaker 5: identified him, well the quarterback that's gonna fit your system.
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  Speaker 6: I think they if they knew Derek Carr is not
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  Speaker 6: going to be here, then that leaves Spencer Rattler and
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  Speaker 6: your roster with j canor you have to pick somebody, right,
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  Speaker 6: you got to pick somebody. You're not gonna You're not
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  Speaker 6: gonna pick somebody in the seventh round. You got to
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  Speaker 6: pick a good quarterback to fill and get more talent
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  Speaker 6: because you don't really know. But I would think if
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  Speaker 6: they want. If they push it, they would have more
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  Speaker 6: of the reps, like skewed toward Shuck, like he would
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  Speaker 6: have gotten the majority of the reps. Right, I think
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  Speaker 6: it's I feel like it's been pretty even. It's been
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  Speaker 6: really even. In the preseason games at least we were
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  Speaker 6: talking about it, like the production from Rattler and Shucks
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  Speaker 6: was like mirror images of each other. I think Game
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  Speaker 6: one and Game two, Uh, you know the I thought
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  Speaker 6: Chuck and Rattler when they started both started the games.
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  Speaker 6: I thought they did some move the off worked the
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  Speaker 6: offense well, good completion percentages made to all the throws
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  Speaker 6: they were supposed to. And then when they also came
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  Speaker 6: in as a second guy in each of the games,
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  Speaker 6: they threw for more yards, they each got two minute situations,
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  Speaker 6: they had more opportunities, they each threw a pick, they
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  Speaker 6: each had an explosive play. Like I think they were
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  Speaker 6: merely mirror images of each other. So I think they've
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  Speaker 6: done a good job, and I think we can all
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  Speaker 6: agree that as to this point, now they're gonna like
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  Speaker 6: whoever the quarterback is going to have time. They got
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  Speaker 6: to go win games. But to this point, like quarterback
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  Speaker 6: is not the issue on this team or for this offense.
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  Speaker 6: So tell me, like, what what is what have you sayen?
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  Speaker 6: Where can they improve?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 6: Is there improvement to be made with this offense from
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  Speaker 6: a protected standpoint, from a running game standpoint, run blocking?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, real quick, I don't disagree, Like I think
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  Speaker 5: that it's been a pretty pretty fair battle. I just
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  Speaker 5: think there's like a couple of little things in there
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  Speaker 5: that that lead board that like getting the two minute
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  Speaker 5: drill against the rams and the draining practice at the end, uh,
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  Speaker 5: spencer ding, get those reps like he you know, he's
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  Speaker 5: on the sideline next to Hayter. Uh, you know, going
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  Speaker 5: through practice. It's about thirty more passes for for thirty
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  Speaker 5: more reps, probably for shock. I could give you the
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  Speaker 5: exact number, but you know later. But he was up
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  Speaker 5: a little bit. But it's a splight. There's just like
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  Speaker 5: a slight little like all right, we're gonna give him
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  Speaker 5: an a lave a lave in Rashid and we're not
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  Speaker 5: going to give those guys the spencer. But we'll see
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  Speaker 5: what happens in game three. I mean, I think they
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  Speaker 5: need to get a dress rehearsal, you know, bigger issues
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  Speaker 5: on offense, Man it's it's I mean it's not inferior line, right,
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  Speaker 5: I mean like that's yeah, that's uh, that's not good,
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  Speaker 5: like kind of going out isn't isn't good. I think
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  Speaker 5: that's that's a huge issue. I mean it's a turf
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  Speaker 5: tole injury. Rookie year he had the same thing. He
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  Speaker 5: misses eleven games with it. I mean, that's a giant
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  Speaker 5: human with like recurring foot problems. Like it's it's at
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  Speaker 5: least something that that's a little bit worried some you know,
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  Speaker 5: I think Caesar needs to play way better. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I think the like I think Banks has been awesome though,
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  Speaker 5: Like he went against you know there Walker and uh
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  Speaker 5: what is it now, hind Island six times in that
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  Speaker 5: game in Passcoral won all six reps. Like, had a
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  Speaker 5: really good game there. You know, I think Suaga was
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  Speaker 5: a little bit messy, but like, yeah, I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: just I just think their offense is underpowered just kind
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  Speaker 5: of kind of overall, and you know, a lot I
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  Speaker 5: dropped in that pass is weird. That's not something I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna like expect going into the season. But you know,
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  Speaker 5: I just think I think there's some little details and
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  Speaker 5: stuff too. That they gotta they gotta kind of work
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  Speaker 5: out and you know, it's just been uh, I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: like it was just a very flat performance, I thought
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  Speaker 5: coming out into that game, and I thought, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a fair criticism that in the post
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  Speaker 5: game speech, like they played the video on Twitter and
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  Speaker 5: Colin Mars like, oh, we gotta be ready to come
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  Speaker 5: out here and play it like practice at six pm
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  Speaker 5: every day every day leading into the game. Like, I
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  Speaker 5: don't know, moved that up a little bit. I think
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  Speaker 5: those are like little things that they got to, you know,
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  Speaker 5: work out, and they'll go through and figure out and
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  Speaker 5: get evidence and you know, learning and adjusting all that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: But I think, just like overall that there is probably
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  Speaker 5: gonna be a little bit of a learning process for
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  Speaker 5: everybody in that building going through year one.
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  Speaker 3: Catching up with a guy Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot
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  Speaker 3: Football here on OTB. All right, let's get away for
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  Speaker 3: a little bit from the quarterback position, and what did
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  Speaker 3: you think about the running back rotation week number one?
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  Speaker 3: In the preseason, they had nowhere to go. There was
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  Speaker 3: a couple of better situations this game. Not certainly not
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  Speaker 3: where you wanted to be, but there were some running
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  Speaker 3: backs out there making plays, and even Clyde there in
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  Speaker 3: the last portion of the game made a couple of
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  Speaker 3: nice catches, made some you know, some runs. He's hitting
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  Speaker 3: people on the sideline, getting upfield and getting you know,
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  Speaker 3: kind of fired up there.
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  Speaker 4: Like where do you have the running back battles right now?
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I comfortably have my four, Like I
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  Speaker 5: think it's Alvin hendre Uh, Clyde, and in Bayless, and
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  Speaker 5: it seems like they want Cam like they're getting Cam Akers,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the higher reps now. But like he had
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  Speaker 5: a bad snap and passport, and I feel like Clyde
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  Speaker 5: just like keeps getting better at that camp goes on
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  Speaker 5: and it's not something that's always done like a strength
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  Speaker 5: of his game, but like you can can tell he's
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  Speaker 5: really working at it, and it seems like he's picking
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  Speaker 5: stuff up really well. Cam Akers has like a real,
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  Speaker 5: real good practice against the Rams, maybe one of the
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  Speaker 5: only guys coming out of there that I felt like
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  Speaker 5: great about how he played that day. But like I
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  Speaker 5: just feel like Clyde's making more plays there and I
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  Speaker 5: think that's where they need like help, Like that hasn't
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  Speaker 5: been a big strength of that Alvin's game. Obviously, it's
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  Speaker 5: not something that that Kendra does well, not yet at
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  Speaker 5: least I haven't seen anything from from Bayless to suggest
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  Speaker 5: that he could do it. But I want him on
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  Speaker 5: the team just like he just looks so explosives every
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  Speaker 5: time he touches the ball. It's like somebody that could
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  Speaker 5: be like a home run hitter. And that's just like
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  Speaker 5: another element of speed you can get on the field
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  Speaker 5: with all these other guys that are just like straight
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  Speaker 5: up burners. Uh, you know, one of those guys gets
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  Speaker 5: a little bit of space, like there's home run potential.
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  Speaker 5: I like him in that role, you know, with Devin
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  Speaker 5: neil Or he's just kind of out of sight, out
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  Speaker 5: of mine right now. Eventually he probably finds his way
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  Speaker 5: on there somewhere. And you know, maybe Clyde's the guy
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  Speaker 5: that you initially cut and put on the practice squad
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  Speaker 5: and use as an elevation early in the season. Events
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  Speaker 5: stn him or something. But there's different ways run it.
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  Speaker 5: But like, yeah, I'm taking Clyde ahead of Camp Bakers say. Now,
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  Speaker 5: I just feel I would just feel more confident with
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  Speaker 5: him standing next to you know, Rattler. Shuck shuck, rattler
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  Speaker 5: on third down than than any of those other guys.
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  Speaker 6: All right, how about our guy Mason Tipton on this roster.
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  Speaker 5: I think you got to keep him. If you caught him,
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  Speaker 5: someone's taking him. I mean that's usually with the math
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  Speaker 5: ends up being and all a lot of times, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I think when you're too close to the team, you
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  Speaker 5: end up over eight and people like you like they
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  Speaker 5: can't cut, like Padilla, someone's going to claim him. And
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  Speaker 5: then like Faddill Diggs gets through to the practice squad
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  Speaker 5: like ninety nine out of one hundred times, like Tipton's
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  Speaker 5: getting claimed like he's he's just made way too many plays.
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  Speaker 5: It's way too loud, you know. I like the way
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  Speaker 5: that he responded to a little bit of you know, adversity,
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  Speaker 5: took the blame for the interception, came back, you know,
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  Speaker 5: makes huge plays down the stretch. I really really like
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  Speaker 5: the way that he's playing. He played like this last
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  Speaker 5: year in training camp too, and then got hurt and
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  Speaker 5: you know, the last staff just didn't really like I
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  Speaker 5: don't know, there was always just like difficulties. I think
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  Speaker 5: for young players to get opportunities to make their mark,
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  Speaker 5: I mean that's that's a stark difference I think between
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  Speaker 5: these guys. And and then like I don't think that
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  Speaker 5: you see Danny Stetsman wearing the green dot in the
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  Speaker 5: first preseason game. You know, with the previous staff and
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  Speaker 5: these guys, do you know it's a college staff kind
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: of especially on defense, a lot of development. You know
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: a lot of guys that have you know, just hot
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: guys and brought them up and they kind of trust
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: what they're seeing. And you know, I think, especially early on,
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: there's there's not a fear of you know, going to
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: younger proving guys because like your job's not on the linee.
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: You don't feel like, you know, well, if I go
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: to this young guy and he makes a mistake, he's
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: gonna get me tired. Like you can absorb some of
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: that early on, I said, have to say that, like
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: I think Tippson's gonna get real opportunities, and I don't
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: know that he got a ton of them last year
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: even with all the injuries. Uh, And it seems like, yeah,
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: I think he's got to be on the team. And
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, I know, you got three other guys that
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: have four four speed, but there's another one you put
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: Bayless shows in there running but like it could be
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: a track meet out there, Like there are probably times,
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: like you know, there's gonna probably be some exciting place.
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: He had one against the Rams, like ran like a
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: little shallow cross cuts it up the field, had a
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: sixty yard touch on it and it was like a
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: real play. Nobody like getting range to hit him. So
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: I like the home run hitting ability. I like the
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: fact that they got two three, four guys that could
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: probably turn a checkdown into a touchdown. Like I like him.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: I think he has to be on the team.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: Nick.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: So much conversation has been about the offense. I mean,
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: it's kind of what we've done the first sixteen minutes here,
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: But the defense, when you look at the two preseason games,
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you put the total yards giving up
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: two forty eight three thirty seven, so only two hundred
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: and ninety two yards per game here in the first
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: two games. I mean, look, I know that Jacksonville and
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: they're you know, opening series. The first two series with
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: their starters went right down the field. But there's been
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: a lot to like, I think about this defense that
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: we're not talking about because we're so worried about the
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: offense of the New Orleans Saints.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they got a chance will probably be
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: better than expected. They got like real depth. I think,
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: you know, the inferior toss of lion spots strading Collin
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: Saunders for a backup center, which I think is you know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: I don't know that I love the center, like he
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: had a tough time in Jacksonville, but I like, you know,
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: they got to have somebody by McCoy's miss like I
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: don't I don't even know what it was like seventeen
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: games over the last four years or something like that,
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: so important. But yeah, I think the defense is a
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: chance to be better than we expected coming into the season.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: You know, I think day after day they've looked good
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: in camp. You know, I think they're probably not as
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: good as they look in this camp because they're gonna
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: you know, I think there's some inflation going against the
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: softfense obviously, but they seem very organized, They seem very energized.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: That feels like, you know, the details are all on point.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: And I think more importantly, man like there's just like
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: a I don't want to like use a corny word here,
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: but like there's like a joy back on that side
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: of the ball with those players that I think was
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: missing the last couple of years. I think there's a
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: lot of frustration, but with how things were going, especially
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: last year, some of the staff changes in that uh
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: Todd Grantham, like the guys on the d line, Like
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: I've never heard people like speak out about a coach
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: the way those guys talk about him, which I mean
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: it's uh that there's like some some intensity to the
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: uh to the hate like on that guy. But yeah,
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: I mean I think this. I think these guys like
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: just feel good about what they're doing and I think
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: that matters. Like I think they're they're happy to play.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: You know, there's a there's like a closeness actually too,
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: like with that that secondary you know, that safety group,
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: like they're they're just always around each other, the courn
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: like all those guys getting along. I don't know, I
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: just it just it just feels like they might get
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: everything out of what they have, like just because of
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: of where they're at, you know. And I think they're
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: gonna stop the run a lot better too. Like Godshaw
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: is like a real player, probably one of the better
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: one of the guys that I that I probably feel
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: best about coming out of this camp. You know, the
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: Alante Taylor being out is the only the only reservation.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: But like, I look at how they're using like Ugo
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: Amadi in these games, and like I just keep like imagine,
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: like if that's a Lante out there, and you got
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: a little bit more speed and a little bit more
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: strength and a little bit more explosiveness like this last game,
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: like Ugo was like all over the place, and you know,
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: you just put Alte in there, and I think there's
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of plays made there too. So yeah,
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: I think that, uh, I think I got of everything.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: Like I feel way more encourage about that side of
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: the ball, and I think I think they're a legitimate
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: spot for optimism. And like on top of all that,
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: it feels like they got a real player off the
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: street the day before camp starts enjoying Blackman like he's
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: just he's made it kind of plays. He seems to
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: fit really really well. So yeah, it feels like there's
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: a little bit of a you know, if you're looking
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: at both sides of the ball, it feels like that
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: there's a little bit more of a foundation on defense
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: right now. And I'm definitely encouraged by them, and uh yeah,
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: I'm optimistic about it. I think, like, you know, within
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: the parameters of you know, their talent level, but I
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: feel good about like what they're building over there.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: And I think when we look at training camp up
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: to this point for the Saints, so you can it's
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: easy to get kind of lost in the quarterback battle,
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: easy to get lost in like talking about different personnel.
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: But I feel like one question we don't hear a
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: lot or hear talked about, is like, what about the
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: job that Kellen Moore is doing as a brand new
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: head coach first time being. I'm sure there's like there's
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: there's learning curves, there's mistakes made, there's things that he
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: is doing for the first time, but like can you
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: great or rank like, but his job, the job that
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: he's done up to this point, as far as like
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: you know, with the battles and the rotations and managing
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: schedules and managing like inner squad practices things like that,
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: what the what would you rank his job up to
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: this point?
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: It's a It's a good question because I think I think,
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: especially like a quarterback and then you know, with the
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: personalities involved and all that and you have to remember
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: like everything Rattler's been through in his journey to get
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: here and how things happen with like Caleb Williams, Like
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: he's someone that could probably very easily and I like,
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: I don't want to be on par projecting like thoughts
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: and emotions on somebody, but he's probably somebody that could
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: very easily feel scorned. You know, there's probably some some
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: PTSD residual stuff, like how different things have played out
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: in his career. And I don't think anybody could look
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: at this again, there's like two or three little more
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: Like we've spent fifteen minutes dissecting it and it comes
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: down to like two or three little things within it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: I don't think that anyone could really say that this
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: battle hasn't been hands with some degree of fairness. And
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: you can't really sit back and be like angry about this,
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: because I think that's a tough situation to manage, and
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: I think he's done a really good job with it.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: It's two young guys at the beginning of their careers
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: who probably feel like the way to the world is
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: on the outcome of this. I mean, I bet you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: if you're a quarterback in that battle and you feel
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: like you lose this battle, there's probably an element of, like,
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: you know, you feel like am I ever going to
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: get a chance again?
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: And all.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: So, like, I think he's done a good job of
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: mitigating a lot of like jealousy and all that stuff
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: like that. You don't see it. You don't hear it either,
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: And you know, I've covered the league long enough that like,
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: you know, you you hear things like you know, when
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: things aren't going well and there's anger and there's there's
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: jealousy and all that stuff like it usually makes its
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: way over there. Like I haven't heard anything yet, So
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: I think that he's managed that well.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: I think the veteran players like he's done a great
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: job of getting them to buy in all I can
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: do compared a few situations. And it's crazy to say
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: this because like DA had been around forever and it
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: seemed like he should have been their guy. The way
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: people talk about Calum Moore is vastly different than how
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: they were talking about DA through the first month of
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: his tenure. And we haven't seen any fireworks at all anywhere,
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: But last time it was I don't know, ten days
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: into it and granted it's a tough personality, but like
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: you have like Chauncey Gardner Johnson starting all kinds of
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: stuff like him not getting along with it. You know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: you go through some of the interviews from those very
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: first oka and you got people asking players, hey, like
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: do you what do you think about DA getting this job?
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: And it's like very luke warm or like even something
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: like like yeah, I'm not going to comment on that,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: and like it's I don't know if that was like
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: a Sean Payton thing, don't want to take sides against somebody,
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: but it was. It was definitely weird, like there is
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: not weirdness right now, which you know havn't gone through
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: this just a couple of years ago. I think that's
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: a very a very good sign on you know, the
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: buy in the culture all that stuff. Now. You know,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: I've only covered parcels type coaches, Bill Belichick, Sean Payton,
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: you know DA's from that that branch. The way they
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: handle practice in the time aspect of it is very
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: very jarring, Like there's a major element of like culture shock,
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Like they've had two practices that went over ninety minutes.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: They take every third day off, like that's definitely different
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: to me. I don't know what the impact of that is.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: I'm guessing, you know, as I asked around, it sounds
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: like that's how the Eagles and the Rams and you
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: know some of these these younger you know, younger organizations
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: with younger coaches that I think they just probably think
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: about time efficiency differently. And you know, we'll see what
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: the outcome of that is and if it adjusted all
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: in your two or whatever. But I mean, the buy
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: in is significantly different, I think, than than what it
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: was when Das was over there.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: He is our guy, Nick Underhill, New Orleans dot Football,
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• 23:54
  Speaker 3: on OTB. Nick, We appreciate the time as always, sir,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: and look forward to our next conversation.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: All right, got thanks Nick, all right, we will take
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  Speaker 4: a break. More OTB coming back your way on one
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  Speaker 3: I do feel like we don't talk enough about and
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  Speaker 3: talking about the station, the state, anybody that talks the
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  Speaker 6: Yes, no doubt, journalistic integrity.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I've always said that about us.
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  Speaker 6: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 4: We're so worried about the offense. And I understand it. Offense.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: We all knows the superior side of the football. Duh
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: that we all get that.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Uh but the defense actually has played well, like no,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I mean to what to what we thought it was
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  Speaker 3: going to be. And they don't even have like their
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  Speaker 3: full starters in there. Yeah, I got that, Sue. I
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: think the starters did go one for one. Yeah, and
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: then starts against backups. Well they want one for two
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: because they fumbled and you could say, well they were driving, Okay, well.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Don't fumble it. It's football.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: But I think the experience too that you're got, I mean, look,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: two hundred and ninety two yards. It's pretty good that
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: it's preseason, but I mean Jacksonville plays their starters for
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: a couple of series, they play their one B starters
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: for a couple series after that, and you only give
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: up three hundred and thirty seven yards, So you give
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: up two ninety two a game, and like the right now,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: the experience that you're getting, like a dandy Stutsman wearing
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: the green dive in the middle of that defense, I
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: do think that it is going to pay off for
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: them now. I would like to see the starters get
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: some action, certainly uh in the last preseason game, because look,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: you don't, you can't.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: You don't want to roll out there cold and I
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: get and you got an older defense.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: I understand all that, but I do think you're getting
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: some good experience for some young players that I'm actually
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: pretty excited about.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: Well, the Jacksonville Jaguars, they I feel like Juguars Jaguars.
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: I feel like they are gonna be pretty Yeah, I
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: feel like they're gonna be pretty dangerous here. But they're
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: kind of like a a souped on like a depth perspective,
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: They're like a souped up version of the Saints. Like
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: they're really good and they got some really good talents
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: and pieces on their one deep, Like you start digging
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: into the backups, there's still a giant like it's they
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: haven't been a perennial like good team. So like they
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: they're dealing with them, they're just dealing with better starters
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: on a roster standpoint. So once you start rotating backups
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: in for the Jaguars, uh yeah, at that point, yeah,
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: they're they're their movement of the ball is not gonna
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: be quite as good. So I mean that helped a lot.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: That helped the Saints a lot.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Look, you're I mean, you're going against first round pick
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: and ETN you're going against the number one overall pick
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: in Trevor Lawrence like two drives, Well, you acting like
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: that one that they turn the ball over doesn't count.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: I don't remember that. It was the first drive that
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: I saw Trevor just dicing them up and scoret Well.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: I mean that actually should happen.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: But the experience that you're getting your guys right now,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: like Christian boys getting some great experience.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: Uh, I can't you know, you gotta gotta chill a
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: little negativity.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, buddy, there's negative.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: Blowing a lot of sunshine.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying the defense doesn't get talked about, and
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I think they are right now getting some really good
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: experience that is going to pay off.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I need to see I need to see the old guys.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: I need to see the vets. They need to get
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: some play in the last preseason game.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, little w d forty on them knees, those ankles,
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: Get the shoulder warmed up a little bit, get a
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: couple series in, get some live hitting. For sure. You
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: have to.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: I mean that traditionally, even especially with a new defense.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: This is a completely new style of defense.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: Yep, yeah, you have to, like this is the game.
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: I mean Traditionally, when it was four preseason games, the
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: third game of preseason was the one where the starters
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: would play. A lot of games, a lot of teams
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  Speaker 3: There is a school in the SEC, and it's not
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  Speaker 4: We'll tell you who that is when we come back
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  Speaker 1: Org from the locker room to the airwaves gets off
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• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Don't care what big news coming from the planes. The
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Auburn Tigers will now officially claim nine football national titles.
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  Speaker 3: Nine so well, I mean, look, they've got a great
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: case study within their own state to claim national titles
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: that didn't really happen.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: And that's exactly what they're going to do.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: And so I'm going to give you the year and
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: who they're going to claim this national championship from, because
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: before they only claim the AP national championships and so
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: nineteen fifty seven one and then two and ten they won. Now,
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: as I said, they're going to claim the nine football
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: National Championships, all right, So their new national titles will
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: be nineteen ten, nineteen fourteen, nineteen fifty eight, in two
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: thousand and four, so nineteen ten is going to be
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: a new one. That was the Maxwell Ratings College Football
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Rankings as well, So those two publications had them as
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: national champions. Now in nineteen thirteen, I think they've already
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: claimed that one. But nineteen fourteen, James Howe's Power Rating
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: system claimed them national champions. Are also going to claim
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: that now. Nineteen fifty seven, as I said, they won
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: the AP National Championship. They've always claimed that one. Now
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: in nineteen fifty eight, the Montgomery Full Season Championship brought
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: to you by David Montgomery, said they were national champions.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: They're going to go ahead and claim that one, I believe.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty three they claimed that one. Nineteen ninety
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: three is the National Championship Foundation and NCAA Football Record Books.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: In two thousand and four, that's also a new one.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: We played them that year, very good team. Jason Campbell,
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Ronnie Brown Cadillac was on that team. Brandon Jacobs I
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: believe was on that team. So two thousand and four
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: and it says several people, including Darryl Perry and GBE
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: College Football Ratings said that they were national champions.
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: What correct me if I'm wrong? Two thousand and four
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: didn't they have an wasn't a national championship game?
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: That was my freshman year.
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: I think they had a game that year, had a
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: year it determined the national cham And there was a
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: Crystal Balls in Alverurn, Alabama. But Darryl Darryl.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Who Darryl Perry and gb E College Football Ratings?
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: What is?
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: What is g b E?
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: Great Britain Education, theyild it, Greater Birmingham, Greater probably Enterprise,
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: Greater Birmingham probably is there it is. I'll give you
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: nineteen thirteen. I'll even give you nineteen seven. I can't
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: give you fifty eight. Was any of these?
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: Nineteen fifty eight was taken already?
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: You said ninety eight four is real? Which one is real?
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Not any?
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: Are any of them?
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: We don't know about nineteen thirteen. They could have made
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: that up.
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: That's why I gave it them. They can have it,
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: But that's just so stupid, like who cares? Nineteen fourteen
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: on the press on the precipice of World War One.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what are we nineteen fifty eight the LSU Tigers.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that is ours.
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah, two thousand and four.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: It didn't even finished number two in the country bout
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: the way I mean two thousand and four.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Alburn didn't.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Alburn did not finished number two in the country in
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: nineteen fifty eight. In nineteen fifty eight, the Iowahaw guys did.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: But Auburn's like, yeah, let's had that one.
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  Speaker 6: Yep, got it.
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: Oh you you see up, You're too big of a
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: program to be doing something like this. This is what
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: Alabama did back in the seventies.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Alabama's they notorious for doing it.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: But your sewing machine company Kentucky tried to do this
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: like five six years ago. They tried to do the
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: same and then like they made trophies from like the
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: ones that they were claiming, and they got roasted so
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: much that they like they were like, now, we're just kidding,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: We're just kidding.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: We're not gonna do that. We're not gonna do that.
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: There's a lot of people that want LSU to claim
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: nineteen oh eight because LSU was number one in nineteen
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: oh eight. Undefeated, but honestly, like credit to LSU, they're
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: not doing it like LSU's like we won our legitimate
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: national championships. Like if you remember in nineteen they added
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: it to a statue and there was like five spaces,
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: and everybody's like, they're gonna claim nineteen oh eight two
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: and they haven't done it yet because you get backlash
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: like this when you do that, like, oh, four, should
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: they have been in the national championship? I think so
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: they were better than Oklahoma, but you know what, you
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: weren't in it.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: They had a game.
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: You gonna be us USC. Do you want to be
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: compared to USC? Try to claim two thousand and three,
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: you want to be UCF like you're Auburn, you're a.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: Little bit better than this or I thought you were
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: so just because old Charlie from down the road, like the.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Only years, so I mean to to just after the fact,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: go say yes, seven, let's add seven national champ that's why.
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: Are they Probably they're gonna them all at once, just
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: drops out.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: So the only ones that they actually they actually have
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: claimed to is nineteen fifty seven. They went ten to zero,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: led the nation in defense, finished number one eight people,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: but they were on NCAA probation and not allowed to
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: play in a ball game. That was in nineteen fifty seven,
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: which they actually they have up in the stadium one
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: of like they actually claimed in twenty ten. We all know,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: like we talked about yesterday, it was cam new un
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: versus everybody, and they went up there.
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: They won that one, give you that one.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: But now we're talking nineteen thirteen, nineteen fourteen, nineteen fifty eight,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: nineteen nine, three, and two thousand and four.
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: Why are they did they say? Why are they trying
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: to close the gap between them in Alabama?
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: I would assume that has something to do with here.
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: What would be more desperate and sad them claiming national
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: championships that happened a century ago based on some random
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: person's like list and what they thought. Or claiming a
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: national championship because you beat the national champ Like what
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: if Kentucky claimed national championship in O seven to beat us?
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: They're both pretty bad.
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: That's worse. Ye, that's worse, Like it's worse for UCF
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: to claim it in twenty and seventeen, like, in my opinion,
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: the worst one Auburn's claiming it's two thousand and four,
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: which is probly their best argument because they were a
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: good team, but they didn't play in that game we
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: watched they played. It wasn't all Auburt.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: Wasn't so for nineteen fifty eight.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Here's what it says, and this is from Auburn in
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: nineteen fifty eight nine oh and one in a perfect
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: six to zero in SEC play. LSU finished number one
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: at eleven and oh and was widely regarded as national champions. Now,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: the two set of Tigers didn't play each other. Iowa
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: was also named a national champion that season by an outlet,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: finishing eight one and one of note. Alburn's defense led
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: the SEC and the nation and yards per game allowed.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: The Tigers offense led the SEC in total yards per game.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: So they're trying to make it sound like, yeah, we
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: had a tie. LSU didn't lose or have a tie.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: They were eleven and and oh, we were nine oh
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: to one. Remember they didn't get to play in a
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: bowl game that year because they were on probation. But like,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: we led the sec U in offense and were like,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: we were really good on defense as far as the
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: cards per game allowed.
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: Look at the stats.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: You're going to stats like you don't have claim to it.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: You tied a game, you were on probation, you didn't
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: even play in a ball game.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: It's just sad.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Auburn LSU please never do this ever, ever, ever, ever,
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: ever ever.
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: So I'm looking it up right now, hydrated.
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: Though the NCAA recognizes l s U is the nineteen
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: oh eight national champs and l s U is still
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: they don't know.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: The NCAA website has we haven't.
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: They probably have had a chance to fix it since
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: Auburn claimed it. They'll fix it. Sure, it's crazy, give
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  Speaker 6: a few days. It didn't do much fast, so.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: But you know what, though, I mean their argument nineteen
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  Speaker 3: ten is pretty solid for Auburn. They finished six and one,
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  Speaker 3: five and zero in the s i AA.
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  Speaker 7: WHOA six and one, that's gonna be their record when
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: they make the twenty eight team playoff. Six and one.
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  Speaker 4: Douche championships just don't mean anything. Come on, man, you're
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• 41:50
  Speaker 6: It's just sad. It is sad.
• 41:51
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