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- 0:00Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, so exciting night.
- 0:04Speaker 2: We were able to land our number one interior offensive
- 0:08Speaker 2: lineman Grey is Abel. I believe it's the highest player
- 0:13Speaker 2: we've picked since uh, interior player we've picked since Hatch,
- 0:17Speaker 2: which was cool. I was able to be part of
- 0:19Speaker 2: that with Coach Holmer and Ted Scott mccuan and that crew.
- 0:23Speaker 2: So it's pretty fun. And Hotch loves him. Everyone loves
- 0:27Speaker 2: this guy. Just he's just buttoned up, tough, smart, reliable,
- 0:32Speaker 2: our kind of guy. And uh, really, you know, our
- 0:36Speaker 2: first exposure was at the Senior Bowl when he had
- 0:38Speaker 2: a great week down there and it was like and
- 0:41Speaker 2: we felt like eighteen to where we were, you know,
- 0:45Speaker 2: it was like a sweet spot for the interior offensive lineman.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Now Booker went Booker went ten or twelve, twelve.
- 0:56Speaker 1: But yeah, so just really excited, So go.
- 1:00Speaker 3: Ahead, yeah, echo everything John said, Uh, kind of been
- 1:06Speaker 3: on my radar since the Senior Bowl and the exposure
- 1:09Speaker 3: that's kind of when we get introduced the whole process,
- 1:11Speaker 3: and uh, just really excited.
- 1:13Speaker 1: To add him to the crew and get to know
- 1:16Speaker 1: him more.
- 1:17Speaker 3: But he's he's smatched the process and uh, everybody was
- 1:21Speaker 3: really excited and um, just really excited for him to
- 1:24Speaker 3: come in tomorrow and and and get wrong. He's gonna
- 1:29Speaker 3: start a guard be in work in tier. But the
- 1:31Speaker 3: cool thing about Gray is he can play all five spots.
- 1:34Speaker 3: Hopefully hopefully we're not moving around much. He's he sticks
- 1:37Speaker 3: a guard for for a long time here, but he
- 1:40Speaker 3: does have that versatility.
- 1:42Speaker 2: What you guys want to do everything?
- 1:45Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I wouldn't put too much, uh, like,
- 1:47Speaker 3: I wouldn't put too much into like, well, he has
- 1:49Speaker 3: to be the you know, the wide zone guy. It's
- 1:52Speaker 3: this guy's a great pass protector. He can hit his
- 1:54Speaker 3: targets on the move. He's really athletic, he's tough. He
- 1:57Speaker 3: finished his blocks, which is one of my favorite things
- 1:59Speaker 3: about him. So that way he's gonna he's gonna fit
- 2:02Speaker 3: in great.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Trent will show me Kersher will show me
- 2:24Speaker 2: a picture of their uh like twenty twenty two, their
- 2:27Speaker 2: national championship team, and all five of those guys are
- 2:31Speaker 2: playing in the National Football League. They're coached really well.
- 2:33Speaker 2: It's a great program. Uh you know, pretty offensive line coach.
- 2:39Speaker 2: You could tell them guys are just telling them. Guys
- 2:41Speaker 2: are coached up taught well. And that's that's one regardless
- 2:44Speaker 2: of of the level. But yeah, offensive lineman, for sure.
- 2:48Speaker 2: I mean you're like going all over the like they
- 2:51Speaker 2: they're coming home shapes and sizes, and you gotta find
- 2:54Speaker 2: the competitors regardless of the level of competition.
- 2:58Speaker 3: That we were just kind of going away the.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Guy. Yeah, thats what kind of has hutches personality a
- 3:06Speaker 2: little bit David was talking about before. It's fun dude, Like.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Yeah, we totally knew he was gonna have a settlers
- 3:13Speaker 3: up with ten game box right there at his draft party,
- 3:18Speaker 3: which won a lot of points with me too, So
- 3:20Speaker 3: we got that going for us.
- 3:22Speaker 2: A process just you know, just the person, what he's
- 3:30Speaker 2: gonna bring to the competitor, he's gonna bring to the room.
- 3:34Speaker 1: He's a little throwback.
- 3:35Speaker 2: You know, he gets rocking the stash and you know,
- 3:38Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he's still rocking it, but uh, ever,
- 3:41Speaker 2: just did a great job with with the interviews in
- 3:43Speaker 2: the Zoom process with him too, Like all the interviews,
- 3:47Speaker 2: he just he just exudes this really cool like confidence toughness.
- 3:52Speaker 2: I guess that's like a smart, tough, reliable guy. You know.
- 3:54Speaker 2: Thirty five starts and you know, yeah, they they play
- 3:58Speaker 2: good ball.
- 3:59Speaker 3: Man.
- 3:59Speaker 2: It's really great.
- 4:00Speaker 1: That's a really good program.
- 4:03Speaker 4: What kind of resources.
- 4:04Speaker 5: Having a Hall of Fame guard.
- 4:06Speaker 4: On a staff.
- 4:09Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the way when you see him right now,
- 4:11Speaker 2: you wouldn't think he's like a right, he's so skinny
- 4:13Speaker 2: the two twenty five right now. But uh no, it's
- 4:18Speaker 2: it's been awesome with Utch. You know. It's, uh he's
- 4:22Speaker 2: his own pilot now, right, so he flies himself around
- 4:24Speaker 2: and checks out the guys. So it's pretty it's pretty
- 4:27Speaker 2: cool having him with us. I mean, he's just a
- 4:38Speaker 2: loyal dude. I mean he's really close with this family. Uh,
- 4:43Speaker 2: it's a good just good person. I mean, you know
- 4:45Speaker 2: there's these guys he gets recruited there. You know, he's
- 4:47Speaker 2: just he's he's confident, loyal, tough dude.
- 4:52Speaker 5: John, you talked about being in need.
- 4:54Speaker 4: And now you got your top.
- 4:57Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:59Speaker 4: For the rest of the draft, yeah, I think it's is.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Now nine right now. So yeah, it's it's gonna be.
- 5:09Speaker 2: It's exciting. I mean it's there's still guys, but we
- 5:14Speaker 2: I had to stop myself there there's still some good
- 5:17Speaker 2: you know, damn good players up there, right, So uh yeah, no,
- 5:20Speaker 2: we're we're excited to keep rocking. I mean, this is
- 5:22Speaker 2: like we've talked about this before the first the first night,
- 5:25Speaker 2: it's like this, you know, like entertainment World, and you know,
- 5:29Speaker 2: Tomorrow we wait forever to pick and then Saturdays like
- 5:32Speaker 2: roll up sleeves and Saturday is the most fun day.
- 5:35Speaker 2: But yeah, tomorrow, Tomorrow's gonna be t Tomorrows gonna be
- 5:38Speaker 2: fun as well because there's a lot of really good
- 5:39Speaker 2: players up there. Those are not accurate. We were we
- 5:47Speaker 2: were discussing it, and things did not come to fruition,
- 5:56Speaker 2: right roommates. Yeah, yeah, I stayed away from him personally,
- 6:02Speaker 2: but the guys all have, like, you know, all the
- 6:04Speaker 2: guys have talked jamming about him, and yeah, he's great guy.
- 6:09Speaker 2: But he just checks. Like I said, he just checks
- 6:11Speaker 2: every box. There's nothing you can really except would you
- 6:14Speaker 2: say he was like what do you say he was
- 6:16Speaker 2: drinking bush light or something? Yeah, that's not You're not
- 6:19Speaker 2: checking a box there. He needs to switch it up
- 6:23Speaker 2: a little bit. Yeah, he's in Good Poison College.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm I'm sure.
- 6:31Speaker 5: That you have six or eight boxes when you're scouting
- 6:34Speaker 5: guards that that you you would like to have checked,
- 6:37Speaker 5: just like all teams. But is there one or two
- 6:40Speaker 5: boxes that you say, hey, look, this is like the
- 6:43Speaker 5: most we got. There are a couple of trades or
- 6:47Speaker 5: attributes that you're at guard.
- 6:52Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say the physicality. I would say toughness, physicality,
- 6:56Speaker 2: you know, the the the the finish, the will to finish.
- 7:00Speaker 2: It just stands out when you see guys. You know,
- 7:03Speaker 2: I'm sure you've noticed this over the years. Now, you
- 7:05Speaker 2: like when you see guys finishing downfield, I mean it
- 7:07Speaker 2: looks rare, which you know, guy's cleaning up and uh,
- 7:11Speaker 2: he's one of those guys.
- 7:13Speaker 4: What about the.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Outside Yes, from the question a little bit earlier, but.
- 7:22Speaker 3: I like how he finishes the blocks and then finding
- 7:25Speaker 3: his targets down the field in space. Obviously he's a
- 7:28Speaker 3: really great athlete, how he moves. And then you know
- 7:31Speaker 3: it's easy to overlook past protection. You talk wide zone
- 7:34Speaker 3: all the time, but you could argue that's kind of
- 7:36Speaker 3: where it starts in the evaluation process. And yeah, hard
- 7:41Speaker 3: to find a rep that he he had a hard
- 7:43Speaker 3: that he had a hard.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Time winning and down in mobile so and he took
- 7:46Speaker 1: a lot of.
- 7:47Speaker 5: Them and.
- 7:56Speaker 1: No, he was stealing reps. It's pretty cool.
- 7:59Speaker 2: He stood out out. I mean he did he could
- 8:01Speaker 2: have Well, he could have left. You know, he was
- 8:03Speaker 2: voted like the practice player of the week, and a
- 8:06Speaker 2: lot of those guys leave, they don't, you know, stay
- 8:08Speaker 2: for the game and then they've improved their you know,
- 8:10Speaker 2: draft value or whatever. And he stayed and competed and
- 8:14Speaker 2: played garden center in the game, and he stood out
- 8:18Speaker 2: down there for sure. I'm sorry.
- 8:24Speaker 5: What does his versatility say about his fall?
- 8:30Speaker 3: Yeah, talking about how smart he is, I mean again,
- 8:33Speaker 3: hopefully you know, we find a home for him at
- 8:34Speaker 3: one position and he and he lives there for a
- 8:36Speaker 3: really long time for us. But I think it just
- 8:39Speaker 3: just speaks with savvy. It's not easy to move and
- 8:41Speaker 3: it's not easy to find those guys I could play
- 8:44Speaker 3: into your end and of tackle. So he's one of
- 8:47Speaker 3: them and he's ours.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Now.
- 8:57Speaker 1: I wish there was more to that. I mean, I
- 9:00Speaker 1: love that. I love that they work out together and
- 9:01Speaker 1: they have a prior relationship. But I hate to say,
- 9:05Speaker 1: probably more of a coincidence than anything else.
- 9:08Speaker 2: We totally talked to about it.
- 9:15Speaker 5: About different attributes left. In your way of thinking, is
- 9:20Speaker 5: there any difference in attributes for a left guard or
- 9:23Speaker 5: ran guard and then the follo that is you said
- 9:25Speaker 5: you just starting the guard start left.
- 9:29Speaker 1: I wouldn't.
- 9:29Speaker 3: I wouldn't say there's a huge difference between either one.
- 9:31Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see how it shakes out on what
- 9:34Speaker 3: side he's gonna start, and you know, if there's one
- 9:37Speaker 3: one place that he plays particularly better than the other,
- 9:39Speaker 3: or you know, the rest of the guys on the
- 9:41Speaker 3: roster on how well they play.
- 9:43Speaker 1: We're trying to find the best cohesive unit right now.
- 9:45Speaker 3: There's a lot of competition along our line, and to
- 9:48Speaker 3: say he's going to be slotted at this spot probably
- 9:50Speaker 3: too premature to give you that.
- 9:52Speaker 4: There was a number of the first round tonight, we're
- 9:57Speaker 4: kind of expecting to see that kind of run on
- 9:58Speaker 4: the monment and any other big kind of.
- 10:03Speaker 2: Yeah, we had our we had our like our strategy meeting.
- 10:08Speaker 2: I don't know I went. I'm losing track, but a
- 10:10Speaker 2: couple of nights ago, pro scouts go through every team
- 10:13Speaker 2: and rank like the top five needs to talk about
- 10:16Speaker 2: upcoming contracts, you know, basically like if they're running the team,
- 10:20Speaker 2: this is what they would do, right And uh, I
- 10:23Speaker 2: want to say, like eighty percent of the top three
- 10:28Speaker 2: needs by team where there was offensive linemen involved there,
- 10:32Speaker 2: So it was a little it was. I mean it
- 10:35Speaker 2: was even more eye opening than I had thought, you know,
- 10:37Speaker 2: throughout the the process, like you know, it's a every
- 10:43Speaker 2: looking for him, right, And so I don't know how
- 10:47Speaker 2: many went. I I lost track there for a minute
- 10:49Speaker 2: at the end, but I know Josh, Josh got taken
- 10:52Speaker 2: right at the end. Eight Yeah, John, Yeah, Kirk, Parrish
- 11:00Speaker 2: and Trent both went in there. Kirk was fired up,
- 11:03Speaker 2: you had to call him. Kirk was here in two
- 11:06Speaker 2: thousand when we drafted Hutch too, So that was pretty
- 11:09Speaker 2: fun that you know, hav him the cus like he's
- 11:12Speaker 2: super passionate scout, like you know, like if if people
- 11:16Speaker 2: disagree on a player, you still got that old school
- 11:18Speaker 2: kind of like he bows up a little bit and stuff.
- 11:20Speaker 4: You know.
- 11:20Speaker 2: So it was just it was pretty cool to be
- 11:23Speaker 2: able to take one of his guys.
- 11:35Speaker 3: Uh.
- 11:36Speaker 2: We felt pretty good about being able to if we
- 11:37Speaker 2: did trade back that there was gonna be a couple
- 11:39Speaker 2: of guys there that we'd be able to go to.
- 11:42Speaker 2: But he he was he was number one, so it
- 11:46Speaker 2: was gonna have to be a cool deal for us,
- 11:48Speaker 2: and uh yeah, it ended up just he ended up
- 11:52Speaker 2: just being the guy.
- 11:59Speaker 4: You know what.
- 12:02Speaker 1: I'd say, like eighty.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Everybody was talking like they didn't know when the guards
- 12:06Speaker 2: were gonna start going. We got a little jiggy when
- 12:10Speaker 2: when book got taken with Dallas, but.
- 12:17Speaker 1: There was a.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of guys there but that we liked.
- 12:21Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, he's a really good athlete. I mean,
- 12:28Speaker 2: I mean you could tell just by looking at him
- 12:30Speaker 2: right with a mustache and the body type. Yeah, yeah,
- 12:33Speaker 2: I know. The guys the guy's a good athletes, really quick.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Have Yeah, they have the whole offensive staff.
- 12:43Speaker 3: I mean, he's as much as JB can jump right now,
- 12:47Speaker 3: you know where he's at.
- 12:48Speaker 1: He was doing it.
- 12:49Speaker 3: He was really excited, and Clint's really excited. The rest
- 12:51Speaker 3: of the guys, you know, Jo justin alten Rico, those
- 12:55Speaker 3: guys had a really high.
- 12:58Speaker 1: High opinion of him throughout the process too, So everybody
- 13:01Speaker 1: was really fired.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Up coach with him. The personality comes across not only
- 13:09Speaker 2: but he's a competitor, right, What does it mean to
- 13:11Speaker 2: bring somebody like that?
- 13:14Speaker 1: Well, I had to. I had to get some believe
- 13:16Speaker 1: it or not. I had to get emotion out of
- 13:17Speaker 1: him on the on the phone.
- 13:18Speaker 3: So I think I succeeded a little bit but yeah,
- 13:21Speaker 3: I mean it's you know, obviously family and friends were there,
- 13:24Speaker 3: and you know it's cool when you're on the phone
- 13:25Speaker 3: with them and then you go back and then you know,
- 13:27Speaker 3: they show up the TV clip of you know, the
- 13:29Speaker 3: party going on, and you just understand how big of
- 13:31Speaker 3: a moment it is for him and his family, and
- 13:34Speaker 3: IM just really proud of like all the stuff that
- 13:36Speaker 3: you got to do to get to that moment. But
- 13:38Speaker 3: those are the guys we want in our locker room
- 13:39Speaker 3: that are going to come in and compete. And we've
- 13:41Speaker 3: talked about this at length, I feel like, but just
- 13:43Speaker 3: the guys that love the process of doing football every.
- 13:46Speaker 1: Day and that shows up and how much.
- 13:49Speaker 3: You can improve from a you know, day to day
- 13:50Speaker 3: basis and then how long you you know, how much
- 13:52Speaker 3: you love your teammates up, how you're able to connect
- 13:54Speaker 3: with all the guys around you on a day and
- 13:55Speaker 3: day out basis and just operate that the way that
- 13:58Speaker 3: we want to operate here. And so that's one of
- 14:01Speaker 3: the reasons we're so excited competition.
- 14:04Speaker 5: Came to the quarterback position. Yeah, now adding grade to Anthony.
- 14:09Speaker 4: And Christian and you guys are opinions of what do
- 14:15Speaker 4: you think that's gonna do to your group now to
- 14:17Speaker 4: kind of try to push them forward.
- 14:18Speaker 3: Oh yeah, huge lay up question, but uh it's I mean,
- 14:24Speaker 3: you're a I mean, look the guys laugh, like, we're
- 14:26Speaker 3: gonna get reps here. We're gonna maximize the amount of
- 14:28Speaker 3: time that we're given. These guys are gonna have ample
- 14:30Speaker 3: opportunity to show what they can do. And you know,
- 14:33Speaker 3: you want to make decisions in a timely manner, so
- 14:35Speaker 3: you can you know, you can gel the group together.
- 14:37Speaker 3: But you know, we said this like we're really excited
- 14:40Speaker 3: about the guys we have as well, and uh, we're
- 14:42Speaker 3: gonna have ample opportunity to show what they can do,
- 14:44Speaker 3: and and uh really confident that you know, it's gonna
- 14:47Speaker 3: be able to gel and and uh really surprised at
- 14:49Speaker 3: people this year.
- 14:51Speaker 5: There still book and if so what stood.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Ratter not talk about Booker, okay, but he was their
- 15:04Speaker 2: number one interior offensive lineman. So Gray it was just
- 15:10Speaker 2: he's just he's an athlete. He just again he just
- 15:13Speaker 2: checked all the boxes. Books can be a great player too.
- 15:17Speaker 4: Players in this draft still having opportunities that either guys.
- 15:22Speaker 2: Or yeah, if we can you know, if we can
- 15:26Speaker 2: find people that want to move around like pretty quiet tonight. No, Uh,
- 15:30Speaker 2: it's gonna be great. I mean we're excited, you know,
- 15:33Speaker 2: to be able to we feel like we're really gonna
- 15:35Speaker 2: be able to impact our team with our kind of
- 15:37Speaker 2: guys and uh, you.
- 15:39Speaker 1: Know, like with respect all the guys that are here.
- 15:41Speaker 2: Right now, bringing the people that like will be able
- 15:44Speaker 2: to work with them, compete with them, and uh yeah,
- 15:49Speaker 2: just continue down that that that path of competing every
- 15:53Speaker 2: day and adding as much depth as he possibly can
- 15:59Speaker 2: and defense.
- 16:01Speaker 4: The last few years offensive line. Now you got to
- 16:05Speaker 4: first round picks, third round picks. How you feel about
- 16:10Speaker 4: the capital you're putting.
- 16:16Speaker 2: It, Well, I mean we're it's not necessarily I know, yeah,
- 16:21Speaker 2: it's not something you go into saying we're gonna we're
- 16:23Speaker 2: always just trying to like add the best players who
- 16:26Speaker 2: possibly can, regardless of position and not obviously there's like
- 16:30Speaker 2: you know, the there's positional importance, but you know, we're
- 16:34Speaker 2: not we don't go into this thing saying, you know,
- 16:36Speaker 2: we're not gonna spend money here, We're not gonna draft
- 16:38Speaker 2: here where we're just it's like we're just constantly taking
- 16:40Speaker 2: the best players at at the best best spots and
- 16:45Speaker 2: making the right decisions for the organization, whether you're spending
- 16:48Speaker 2: money or spending capital.
- 16:50Speaker 1: I would say with with Christian.
- 16:54Speaker 2: You know, Bradford Tala adding j U grade that group
- 17:00Speaker 2: I mean Jaalen Jalen Oulu like pretty cool group. And
- 17:04Speaker 2: like I said before, you know JB and and uh
- 17:07Speaker 2: Rico and and and Coobs and those guys are they're
- 17:09Speaker 2: excited about the guys and so you know when they
- 17:13Speaker 2: got here, they really liked them. They liked the evaluation,
- 17:17Speaker 2: you know, going uh through the beginning of the of
- 17:19Speaker 2: the draft process, through the combine, when free agency started,
- 17:23Speaker 2: you know, there's a couple of guys were you know,
- 17:26Speaker 2: interested in you know, but we also knew like okay,
- 17:30Speaker 2: how we weigh in this in terms of what we
- 17:34Speaker 2: can what we can do in the draft and or
- 17:36Speaker 2: you know, players that are going to be capped casualties there.
- 17:41Speaker 5: But when you're evaluating the.
- 17:43Speaker 2: Players rocking, the nice coaching.
- 17:48Speaker 5: Have come from growing up on a farm and understanding.
- 17:53Speaker 1: You've been talking at Trent Curshoner.
- 17:54Speaker 6: Yeah, from that from that perspective, how much does that
- 17:59Speaker 6: go into play the mindset of the type of players
- 18:03Speaker 6: you wanted to bring in and.
- 18:04Speaker 5: Does his does stand more of an individualized that.
- 18:12Speaker 2: I mean, I'm biasing from Wisconsin, so farms, tough guys.
- 18:16Speaker 2: You know, we like those guys.
- 18:17Speaker 3: You know, the farm is like one of those prerequisite
- 18:20Speaker 3: boxes that.
- 18:20Speaker 2: You have to check, especially on the Trent Kershner Report.
- 18:24Speaker 6: Yeah, so much tackle the last couple of years.
- 18:29Speaker 5: How much was the Senior Bowl cunched it where you needed.
- 18:32Speaker 2: To see that project? Yeah? They just seeing them compete
- 18:38Speaker 2: against all the guys we're down there.
- 18:40Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's there's guys that were playing tackle
- 18:42Speaker 3: this year that you project. I mean, you know, to
- 18:44Speaker 3: guard Tower is one of those guys last year. But
- 18:47Speaker 3: anytime you see it, I mean, it's only gonna help.
- 18:50Speaker 4: You you were there any other.
- 18:59Speaker 2: Year. I Mean, our grading skills is b based off
- 19:05Speaker 2: of our team, not the National Football League, so based
- 19:08Speaker 2: on like those greats hook up, need and value, and
- 19:12Speaker 2: that's where he stood out. But yeah, there's there's there's
- 19:15Speaker 2: some good players up there that that happens every year,
- 19:18Speaker 2: right y y. You know, you you pick somebody and
- 19:20Speaker 2: you're kind of like, okay, now, then you watch especially
- 19:23Speaker 2: you know, you watch these guys go. You're kind of
- 19:25Speaker 2: like it's like, you know, watching people take food off
- 19:30Speaker 2: the table. You know, you're just like watching it go away.
- 19:32Speaker 2: It's like okay, right, and feel bad for the scouts
- 19:34Speaker 2: cause there's you know, so much time put into it
- 19:37Speaker 2: on every player and these guys just especially like uh Saturday,
- 19:44Speaker 2: the names just kind of like rip off, you know,
- 19:46Speaker 2: and these guys spend so much time getting to know
- 19:49Speaker 2: the player or the person, the families, the you know,
- 19:52Speaker 2: the coaches like all that. So yeah, what win the decision.
- 20:02Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'll keep that in house, but uh, how
- 20:11Speaker 2: do we feel about the position? Ye?
- 20:12Speaker 1: We like the position. We were, we're we're.
- 20:14Speaker 2: We'll be looking to add there as we go this
- 20:18Speaker 2: weekend or further into the spring. And we usually don't
- 20:21Speaker 2: comment on why we let guys go. The cam's a
- 20:25Speaker 2: great guy, really good person. Anything else.
- 20:30Speaker 4: Thank you, thanks, thank you,