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Texas appeals as its redistricting map is temporarily blocked · Austin Signal

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A federal court ruled this week that
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a map passed by Texas Republicans
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cannot be used in next year's
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midterm elections.
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That map was set to eliminate one
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of Travis County's two
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Democratic-held seats.
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We're going to hear more from the
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Texas newsroom's capital reporter
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about the fallout following
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yesterday's ruling, and we'll hear
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from Congressman Lloyd Doggett, who
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plans to run for re-election
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following that ruling from the
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federal court. Plus, some folks
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out there may be feeling property
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tax fatigue.
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Austin voters overwhelmingly
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rejected Proposition Q.
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Now, Travis County Commissioners are
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being sued for a tax increase.
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We've got that story.
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Stay tuned.
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The Austin Signal is a production
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of KUT News, hosted by
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Jerry Quijano.
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the Austin area, pack your umbrella,
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Howdy out there, thank you for
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Wednesday, November 19th, thank
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you making us a part of your day.
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A quick couple of headlines before
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today's show.
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Austin City Council members are
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working to finalize a city budget
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and they have to find ways to
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cut. After voters resoundingly
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rejected a proposed tax rate
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increase that would have generated
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more than $100 million.
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At a meeting yesterday, city council
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members shared some of their funding
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priorities.
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Those include emergency medical
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services, shelter for people
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experiencing homelessness, and
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wildfire mitigation.
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The city council is set to adopt a
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new budget by the end of this
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week.
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And much of central Texas will be
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under a flood watch from late
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tonight through early Friday morning
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that includes Burnett, Comal,
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Hayes, Kerr, Travis, and Williamson
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counties.
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The National Weather Service says
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locally heavy rainfall could lead to
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some flash flooding.
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We could see one to three inches of
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rain with some isolated spots
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getting up to six inches.
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We're gonna have more about the
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forecast coming up in the show.
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And as always, you can keep up with
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the latest news over at KUT.org
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and on the KUT
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app.
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A three-judge panel placed a
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temporary block Tuesday on the
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congressional map that Texas
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Republican lawmakers passed over the
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summer. That map passed at
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the behest of President Trump was
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ruled by the panel to
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be racially
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gerrymandering, excuse me.
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The Texas newsroom's capital
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reporter Blaise Ganey is joining us
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on the phone now to tell us more.
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Howdy, Blaise.
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Hey, how's it going?
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It's going okay.
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Glad you're here with us.
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So, this ruling came down yesterday
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right about now.
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First, can you give us a little
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bit more about the reasoning?
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What reasoning did the three-judge
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panel give for blocking the map?
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Yeah, I mean, they essentially just
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adopted what the plaintiffs were
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saying in this case, which was that
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these this map was drawn with
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racial bias and it was racially
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discriminatory.
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They pointed out actual
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portions of the map where they
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noticed, you know, democratic
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areas were targeted, specifically
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dominated by African Americans
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and Latinos,
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Hispanics, In that
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they did not Republicans did
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not target the Democratic areas
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that were dominated by white
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individuals.
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So like I said, this ruling has been
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about 24 hours since this ruling was
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issued. What has been the general
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reaction to the news?
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Were people here in Texas expecting
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this decision?
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No, I think this actually shocked a
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lot of people. I think most people,
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and I say that because most people
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told the state that they did not
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want them to redraw the
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congressional districts.
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So, you know, about 98% I
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believe told of
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those who did said they didn't want
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them to redrew all the districts.
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So I think a lot Texas are happy,
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a little surprised, but also now
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that it has been appealed, I think
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people are sort of holding their
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breath with what may be
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next to come.
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Yeah, you mentioned that appeal that
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came from Texas Republicans.
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How did they respond?
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Can you tell us more about that
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appeal?
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Yeah, I mean, they essentially just
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said that, you know, the ruling is
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wrong and that they want the Supreme
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Court to reverse the ruling and
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allow them to use the
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new map, the 2025
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map instead of the old
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2021 map that
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we've used in the past two
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elections.
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And this is a temporary
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block that was issued by this
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three judge panel.
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And as you mentioned, there has
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already been an appeal.
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How soon might we expect some
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movements on that appeal?
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Well, you know, that's, I think,
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what a lot of people are wondering.
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Um, December 8th is the deadline to
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file. The court obviously
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has enough power to move that
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deadline back, but the hope is
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that they can get something out as
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quick as possible.
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Um, so that, you,
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know, candidates can make their
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filings and whatnot, and choose
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which district they will run in, uh,
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as you know Al
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Green was, you know going
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to run into the 18th district on the
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new map hill.
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Go back to running in the ninth.
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But if a Supreme Court decision
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comes down allowing the
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2025 map, he'll be returning and
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running back in the 18th district.
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So a lot of things are up in the
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air right now.
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Yeah, you mentioned Al Green.
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Here in Austin, here in the Austin
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area, the new map was set to
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have an impact.
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We're gonna lose one, or two
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congressional Democratic-held
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seats right now. That was gonna be
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going back to one, correct?
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That's correct, yeah.
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So you had Greg Kazar,
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a congressman, and also Lloyd
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Doggett, and Kazar
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was actually gonna, and I
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may be pronouncing that wrong, but
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Kazar is gonna continue to
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take over the
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district, the one district, and
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Lloyd Doggott was gonna retire
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yesterday after the ruling.
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He announced that he will actually,
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he's been revived essentially,
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and will come back and
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run in his district Um,
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since you know, the district remains
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for now.
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Yeah, for now.
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You mentioned that December 8th
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deadline. Is that kind of the next
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step? What are we expecting next
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in this continuing battle?
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Yeah, we're sort of just waiting
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once again for a
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ruling now from the United States
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Supreme Court, Supreme Court of the
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United states to either
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say yes, the court can go
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ahead and stay the map and we
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move forward with the old map or
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to say no, the courts got it
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all wrong and this is
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partisan gerrymandering, which is
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legal and they can
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go ahead and use the 2025
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map.
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That'll be the next ruling.
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Alright, that is Blaise Ganey, he is
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the Capital Reporter for the Texas
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Newsroom.
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You can find his reporting at
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KUT.org.
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Blaise, thank you.
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Thanks for having me.
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And Blaise mentioned longtime
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Democratic Congressman Lloyd
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Doggett.
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We reached out to the Austin
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representative yesterday after he'd
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had some time to process the ruling.
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Here's some of his reaction to the
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news.
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Well, I'm really encouraged by it.
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This is really good news for Austin
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and especially the university
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community.
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Uh, what a incredible
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map, uh, the Trump
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Abbott combinations that connected
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the downtown area
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of Austin, uh city
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hall and the courthouse, not
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with the university of Texas campus
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a few blocks away, but with Texas
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A&M that denied, uh
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probably to half of our delegation
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of African American members.
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Representation here in Congress
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and would
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have people in Travis County,
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some of them represented from San
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Angelo, from Victoria and
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Waco, but without
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two representatives,
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myself and Congressman Casar, that
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we have today.
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Now I'll be able to run in
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my district, he and his.
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We hope this decision holds and
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that we have that opportunity.
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Austin will certainly be the better
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if both of us are able to serve and
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work together here.
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In your announcement on
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Tuesday, you invoked Mark Twain
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saying reports of your death
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have been greatly exaggerated.
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It made me think a little bit about
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George Bailey as well and It's a
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Wonderful Life. He gets this
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chance to see what life would have
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been like without him and how things
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would change.
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How excited are you at the
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prospect of getting back to work for
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the people of and for the people who
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you represent.
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Well, I really never stopped
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working. I was at four or five
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events this past weekend in
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Austin. I like being out
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and visiting with people in
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different neighborhoods and
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learning about the latest
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developments in my hometown
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and finding ways that I can be
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helpful.
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But yes, I'm excited about the
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prospect of applying
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for a job to represent Central
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Texas for one more term.
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And that's really what this
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is all about. It's a job application
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where. The voters get to evaluate
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my performance and decide
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whether they want to keep me for
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another two years doing the kind of
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work I've done in the past.
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This redistricting battle obviously
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started here in Texas, but it's lit
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a fire that has spread across the
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country, both in state legislatures
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and in city streets across the
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county. What have you seen from
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Texans and Americans responding to
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this attempt to redistrict a
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lot of their congressional districts
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without their voice or approval?
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Well, you know, I've been involved
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in just about every major rally
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and protest we've had in
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Austin since the beginning
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of the year, and I'm really
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encouraged that our events have
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grown. When people ask me about
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hope, the hope is shown in
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the number of people that are
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standing up and saying that they're
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going to push back against
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Trump's attempts to become really
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a total dictator with no restraint.
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And so I
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remain hopeful that we will continue
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to progress in that direction.
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And I think none of us,
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certainly not me, thought that
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at the beginning of this year, or
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even as late as early July,
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that Trump would use this tactic of
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trying to redraw the lines in
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order to control the House in
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the midterm elections.
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But that's exactly what he's done.
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And now it's backfiring on him
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with a decision that a
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Trump appointee as a federal judge
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in a 160 page opinion
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condemned the effort.
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Not as a partisan effort,
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but as a racial effort to
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discriminate against people
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of color and reduce
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their representation in Congress.
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I'm concerned about how this has
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spread to other states.
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My good friend, Emanuel Cleaver,
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an African American who is the mayor
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of Kansas City, a very successful
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one, he's had this happen to him
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where they've come in and split
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Kansas City in three ways in
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order to try to eliminate
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him from Congress.
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Much the same thing has happened in
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North Carolina, and in Ohio,
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there's also been gerrymandering.
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So I think it's important that
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California tried to balance this
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out. But the real balance that would
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benefit every state and
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every voter is if we had nonpartisan
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redistricting.
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It just can't be in a few states
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that are democratic controlled.
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It needs to be nationwide.
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We had a proposal to do that
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when Speaker Pelosi was our speaker.
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We couldn't get it passed in
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the Senate, but I hope that
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this experience will
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lead more people of all political
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persuasions to realize
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that the best representation
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is that which is organized around
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communities of interest so
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that people don't have to go to San
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Angelo if they live in
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Austin in order to get help.
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We need our representatives to be
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accessible and thereby to be
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accountable.
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We've been hearing a lot about the
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federal government shutdown over the
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last two months now that has ended
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and we saw some election results
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from other states around
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the country.
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What is your message to voters in
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Texas and across the U.S.
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Generally as we start
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to ramp up ahead of next year's
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midterm elections.
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We need to be sure that
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everyone is involved, taking a
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part, doing more than just voting,
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but getting others to vote.
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That's the way to respond to
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the tyrannical policies
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of the Trump administration.
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The result of this is
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sometimes viewed as just an inside
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game with politicians
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fighting over what turf they might
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be representing, but what's
12:50
really at stake in redistricting
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and what's really at stake as we
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go forward.
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Is healthcare, which we fought this
12:57
battle unsuccessfully during
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the shutdown to try to assure that
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premiums did not soar and
13:03
people did not access to physicians.
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It's women's healthcare and the
13:07
terrible decision to limit the
13:09
reproductive choice available
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to women.
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It's about the climate crisis and
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how we will respond to
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an ever-growing crisis.
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It's about where we stand in
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terms of a wide range of pocketbook
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issues that affect
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the opportunity for
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students to get all the education
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they want and then to have good job
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opportunities.
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And it's certainly about where we
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stand in the world and whether we
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will foolishly
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engage in a conflict in
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Venezuela and fail at
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the same time to provide protection
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for Ukraine against a war
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criminal.
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And so there's so much on this valid
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redistricting is just the way that
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Trump can block and achieve his
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objectives and engagement.
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Now in preparation for
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next year is how we should be
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responding.
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Okay, we have been speaking with
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long-time Austin Democratic
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Congressman Lloyd Doggett.
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He intends to run for re-election
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after a federal court blocked
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Texas from using its newly drawn
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congressional map in next year's
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midterm elections.
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Congressman, thank you for your time.
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Jerry, thanks a lot.
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See you at home.
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And yesterday was a busy news day,
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you can catch up on anything you
14:18
might have missed over at KUT.org.
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This is Austin Signal,
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we'll be back in just a moment.
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Welcome back, this is Austin
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signal on KUT
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News.
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Some folks in the Austin area may
14:33
be feeling some property tax
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fatigue, perhaps you are one
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of them.
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Earlier this month, voters
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overwhelmingly rejected Proposition
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Q, a City of Austin tax
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rate increase.
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And now, Travis County commissioners
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are being sued over a 9%
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property tax rate hike that they
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approved back in September.
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KUT's Katy McAfee has the details
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on why Travis County raised taxes
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and what the lawsuit asks
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for.
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For this story, we need to go back
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in time to July.
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It was going to take weeks to repair
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all of the damage from this
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weekend's deadly flooding.
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A powerful storm swept through
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central Texas and flooded the Sandy
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Creek neighborhood in northwest
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Travis County.
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Nearly 200 homes were damaged.
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Multiple bridges were knocked off
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their foundation and piles and
15:18
piles of debris amassed in the
15:20
area.
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The storm was expensive for the
15:23
county. So far, officials have
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spent over $21 million on
15:27
cleanup and emergency assistance.
15:29
And officials say more costs could
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still be accrued.
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But lucky for Travis County, both
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the governor and the president
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issued emergency declarations for
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the area after the flood.
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That allowed the county to take
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advantage of a section of Texas
15:42
tax code.
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It lets local governments raise
15:45
property taxes by higher than normal
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without voter approval.
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Typically, they can't raise taxes
15:50
more than 3.5% without
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going to voters.
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Travis County commissioners approved
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the 9% property tax increase in
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September. It will cost the average
15:59
homeowner, someone with the home
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valued around $500,000,
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an additional $200 on their
16:05
property tax bill compared to last
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year.
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Commissioners estimate it will
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generate $42 million,
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enough to pay for flood repairs and
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prepare the county for future
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disasters.
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The county never laid out exactly
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how this extra money would be spent,
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but commissioners have thrown out
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some ideas.
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Speaking ahead of the vote in
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September, Commissioner Margaret
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Gomez said the county should use the
16:27
money for flood mitigation in Onion
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Creek, which did not flood in July,
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but has several times in recent
16:33
years.
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And that way people can rest
16:36
easy, that they won't
16:38
be flooded in the middle of the
16:39
night and put their families
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in danger.
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Commissioner Anne Howard brought up
16:44
the idea of fixing low water
16:45
crossings throughout the county.
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There are still about a hundred
16:48
miles of substandard
16:50
roads and so that is another place
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that we need to examine.
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But not so fast.
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Earlier this month a lawsuit was
16:58
filed against the Travis County
16:59
Commissioner's Court over how this
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extra money would be spent.
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The plaintiffs are newly elected
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mayor of Lagovista Shane
17:06
Saum and former Austin mayoral
17:08
candidate Jeff Bowen.
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They are being represented by Bill
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Elshire, an attorney and former
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Travis County judge.
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I call it the fake disaster tax.
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That's Elshire.
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He says the county shouldn't use the
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disaster tax exception for anything
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other than projects directly related
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to the July Flood.
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If they wanted to do that, they
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should have asked the voters for
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agreement and not tried to misuse
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this exception for the
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disaster tax.
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It is not a
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provision that they can use to set
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up a slush fund to
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use for road improvement.
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Som, the new mayor of Lagovista,
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says recent changes to state law
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will limit how counties can use
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disaster-related tax revenue.
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He points to House Bill 30, which
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goes into effect in January.
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And the legislature is closing what
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this, what Travis County views as a
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loophole. On January 1, they
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wouldn't have been able to do this.
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It kind of has the appearance that
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you are sneaking it in at the
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midnight hour before this goes away.
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Travis County leaders did not agree
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to an interview for this story.
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In a statement, County spokesperson
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Hector Nieto said the Commissioner's
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Court carefully considered and
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followed state law when adopting the
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tax rate.
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The statement says, quote, We
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disagree with the allegations made
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in the lawsuit and look forward to
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defending our case in a court of
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law, end quote.
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The lawsuit asks the court to
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restrict the county from spending
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disaster related tax dollars on
18:29
projects unrelated to the July 5th
18:31
flood. But it's unclear how
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people's property taxes would be
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affected if a judge rules in the
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plaintiff's favor.
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Folks at the Travis County Tax
18:38
Office said they aren't aware of
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another case like this one that
18:41
could provide some clarity.
18:43
And property tax bills have already
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been sent out to Travis County
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residents with the tax increase.
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Those bills are due January 31st.
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I'm Katy McAfee in Austin.
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Thank you for spending part of your
19:02
Wednesday here with us.
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This is Austin Signal.
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We've got a chance for some
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inclement weather headed our way
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here in Austin and Central Texas
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over the next few days.
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Here to tell us more about what
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we're expecting is Trey Schaar.
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He is on editor here at
19:17
KUT News.
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Trey, welcome to Austin Signal!
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Thanks, Jerry. It's great to be
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here.
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I'm glad you're here.
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You know, it really often feels like
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we need a bunch of rain,
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we never get it, and then boom, this
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huge deluge of rain is coming our
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way.
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That seems to be the case this week.
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What are the forecasts showing so
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far?
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Well, we're under a flood watch
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starting at midnight tonight until
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all the way until six o'clock Friday
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morning.
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And well, you know
19:43
how sometimes we'll get a cold front
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moving through and there'll be a
19:46
line of storms that moves
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in ahead of the front, along the
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front a squall line.
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It looks like what they're worried
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about in this case is that a
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front will stall out and we
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could get training rain
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that just like just keeps coming
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usually from south to north.
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Falling over the same areas.
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And the weather service is saying
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most spots are looking at one to
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three inches, but with isolated
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totals of six to eight.
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So that definitely would cause some
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runoff into creeks, streams,
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rivers.
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Even in those smaller rainfall
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amounts, you could see some low
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lying areas, low water crossings
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fill up, minor street
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flooding.
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Probably not gonna be catastrophic,
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but the possibility is
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there. That's why they call it a
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watch.
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And that watch is affecting
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the five counties in our listening
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area here at KUT News, but
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it also extends to some parts of the
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Hill Country, right, that were
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affected by the earlier flooding
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this year.
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Yeah, that's true.
20:43
The eastern counties are kind of not
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in the area of concern, but
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the hill country is basically
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the I-35 corridors to the
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west.
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And in July, that was
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a situation not all that similar
20:57
to this. That was a tropical
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remnant low that
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just was a rain bomb
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and this
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is almost certainly not
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going to be that.
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But there could be some flooding and
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that's why they've got us under a
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flood watch.
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Speaking of flooding, it always
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seems to be feast or famine,
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and we could use that range surely
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because the drought situation has
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been worsening. I know we're
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expecting an update tomorrow from
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the drought monitor map, but what
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has it been? What have you been
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seeing? I know you follow that every
21:26
week for KUT News.
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What have been seeing, and has it
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been growing worse?
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It has been getting worse.
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We got some rain a few weeks ago,
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but nothing since then.
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And the map that comes out tomorrow,
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it's probably going to show even
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worse conditions because it will not
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reflect the rain we're expecting in
21:42
the coming days because they collect
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the data for that map on Tuesday
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of every week.
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Alright, we have been speaking with
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Trey Schaar.
21:49
He is an editor here at
21:51
KUT News.
21:52
And Trey makes me sound great
21:54
every single day on All Things
21:56
Considered.
21:57
And just in my daily life, so Trey,
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thank you for that, and thank you
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appearing on Austin Signal.
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We appreciate you.
22:02
It's an honor. Thanks.
22:04
And thank you out there
22:06
to you for listening to Austin
22:08
Signal.
22:09
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22:15
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22:17
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Signal. Thanks to my buddy Trey
22:23
Schaar here.
22:24
Thanks to the Texas Newsroom's
22:26
Capital Reporter, Blaise Ganey.
22:27
Thank you to KUT's Travis County
22:29
Reporter, Katy McAfee.
22:31
And to Austin Congressman Lloyd
22:33
Doggett for talking to us here on
22:34
Austin Signal.
22:35
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22:37
good.
22:38
Jimmy Maas has been driving me
22:39
crazy, but I love him.
22:41
He's filling in for managing
22:42
producer Kristen Cabrera,
22:44
who should be back with us tomorrow.
22:45
We're looking forward to that.
22:47
I'm your host, Jerry Quijano, and
22:49
I will talk to you tomorrow same
22:51
time.
22:52
Thank you for tuning in.