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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk (On a Tuesday)- Recap of Wodapalooza SoCal! · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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We were abruptly interrupted by Waza SoCal
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on Sunday night.
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So you get Sunday night CrossFit talk on
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a Tuesday.
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Welcome to the show, it's time to ignite.
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Scott's silky smooth voice keeps the vibes
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just right.
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Caroline on the mic,
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wants a star on the ice.
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Game's athlete so strong,
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keeps the balance precise.
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And Jamie's in the house,
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the engine full of grit.
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Never backing down,
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down doesn't know the words.
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When together they bring the fire,
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never say never.
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So buckle up friends,
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it's burpees forever.
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Welcome to Sunday night.
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we are live on sunday sunday sunday night
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crossfit talk on a tuesday i love that
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you always add that
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Well, it's stolen from Rich Eisen.
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Rich Eisen does Overreaction Monday,
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and sometimes they kick it up on a
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Tuesday.
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And so they have like an intro just
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like we do.
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And when they do Overreaction Monday,
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and then he comes on and goes,
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on a Tuesday.
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Okay.
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I switched my computer.
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Is the fan good now?
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Yep.
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Way better.
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Don't even hear a phone.
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After the last time I went to the
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tech guy at my school and I'm like,
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fix my computer.
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I was like,
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it's just the fan was just way too
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loud.
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He's like,
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let me know the next time you do
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your podcast if it works.
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So good.
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Perfect.
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The chat will let us know, I'm sure.
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Yes.
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John George, member.
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I was giving him crap because I thought
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he'd always been a member.
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And apparently he had let it lapse and
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then rejoined because he didn't know it
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had lapsed.
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So there it is.
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He's back.
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Tessa, my Tuesday just got better.
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My Tuesday just got better.
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I just found a bunch of gift cards
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under this desk.
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And they're from like end of the year.
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You know how students sometimes give you
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like
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little presents.
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I must have stacked them here before the
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summer, like at the bottom of my desk.
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So I just like, grabbed it.
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I just like four gift cards.
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Yes.
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Like coffee and dollar am I going to
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go get some Kleenex and stuff for my
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students and pencils.
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So I'm gonna put the Fergie with the
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question of the week,
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would you rather do three podcasts a day?
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Or shoot behind the scenes at a comp
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for three days straight?
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They're both tough.
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Yeah.
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I will say that.
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The three podcasts a day is all wrapped
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around my work day too.
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So you add the three on top of
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the eight.
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And today I had a cardiology appointment
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first thing in the morning.
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So it's been a long, long day.
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Long day.
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But great news at the cardiologist.
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Everything is looking good.
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Everything is still in rhythm.
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He's happy with my weight loss.
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He's happy with the way everything's
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going.
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Don't have to see him for six months.
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You're still,
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you're everything's in rhythm,
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like fully green light to go back to
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like full activity.
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I've been green light for a while.
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I've been doing full activity.
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which honestly made the trip to Montana so
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much more pleasant,
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like going through glacier and the
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mountains and the thin air and, uh,
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what's that?
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The pictures look great.
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Yeah.
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We had a, we had a blast.
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Um, so yeah.
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Awesome.
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My claim to fame is I beat Jamie
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in fantasy football.
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My fantasy team sucks.
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I've got, like, three players who are out.
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I've got to figure out.
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I've got to drop some people and figure
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out.
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Everyone's hurt.
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My roster's done, though.
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I think the leading person for the MVP
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this year in the NFL is the ambulance
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driver.
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Everybody's getting hurt in the NFL.
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Yeah.
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It is.
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Like,
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over half of the quarterbacks in the NFC
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are hurt.
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Why do you think so?
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The game just faster.
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I don't.
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Cause I mean,
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it's not as physical as it used to
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be.
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Well, I think, I think it is.
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It's just a quarterbacks are protected in
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the pocket,
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but we've switched to a more mobile
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quarterback league.
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So they're leaving the pocket where they
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had the protection.
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Plus the,
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like the big guys are faster and,
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It used to be like the big guys
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were kind of slow.
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Yeah.
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And now to compete with this more mobile
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quarterback moving game, the linebackers,
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the safeties,
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the corners are so much faster.
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They aren't showing up hungover anymore.
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True.
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Yeah.
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Neither of my quarterbacks are hurt.
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That's not the issue.
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I have two quarterbacks.
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Who are your quarterbacks in fantasy?
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I don't freaking know.
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You don't even know who your quarterbacks
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are.
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Lamar Jackson is who I play each week,
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and then Trevor Lawrence is my other guy.
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Gosh, I might switch that.
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Trevor Lawrence is a dude this year.
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Well, I had Trevor Lawrence last year,
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and I played him half-time last year,
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and he would get, like,
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forty-four points from me, like,
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quite often.
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He killed it.
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But my – two of my running backs
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are out.
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I have Jamison Williams.
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He's not running.
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I don't know.
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Your mic keeps cutting out for some
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reason.
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I don't know if it's just not pointed
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at you enough.
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It seems like it's on.
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Point it.
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Point it at you.
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There you go.
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Um, yeah,
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like two of my running backs are hurt.
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I have Jamison Williams and he just
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hasn't,
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he hasn't put up points like I would
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expect.
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So it's basically my,
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my running backs suck or are hurt.
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And my wide receivers have not put up
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like,
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normally you can expect someone to get
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like thirty points and I get like six.
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Yeah, the week I played Meg,
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I lost three players in the first couple
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minutes of their games.
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So now I'm going to have to wear
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a Packers shirt on some show at some
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point.
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So you guys know I'm going to the
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Lambeau in two weeks to the Bears-Packers
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game.
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They just moved it.
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They moved it from a four-thirty start to
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a one o'clock start.
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Is that better or no?
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Well,
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all the plans we made were for a
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four-thirty start.
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It's not going to affect us moving home
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or whatever or getting there and all of
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that.
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It just is like we have to adjust
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the plans a little bit.
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But they're making the San
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Francisco-Seattle game the game of the
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week and moving the Bears-Packers out of
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the game of the week.
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Got it.
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Because no Caleb Williams probably and the
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Packers suck.
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Yeah, that's an understandable swap.
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Oh, I got a good one picked out.
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Great.
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So great.
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So hockey season starts today.
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Carolyn's got to be psyched.
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I actually really haven't been watching as
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much NHL in the last few years as
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I normally do.
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I watch the PWHL when the girls are
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on.
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is not yet and then right now i'm
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watching the wnba playoffs yeah um but i
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don't know nhl i haven't watched as much
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wnba are you like a valkyries fan because
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of lex or um yes so i like
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them i obviously like the tempo because
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that's right in toronto they're a new team
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this year um i like dallas i really
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like paige so that match up between both
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of them
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has me torn a little bit,
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but Lex would get mad at me if
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I didn't cheer for the Valks there.
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So I will cheer for the Valks.
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I'll play a flop.
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I love the purple floor.
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They're fun to watch,
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and their fans are awesome.
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I love the purple floor.
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They have great jerseys.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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When I used to do contracts for the
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state,
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I always signed in purple pen because you
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had to show it was an original signature,
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and so you couldn't use black or anything
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like that.
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So I just bought a bowl, like,
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gross of purple pens.
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So, yeah,
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don't play Baker Mayfield out three weeks.
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Throw his picks when he's in.
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Yes.
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But now he has a dislocated thumb,
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so who knows what he's going to throw.
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Who's got Jake Allen?
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Josh Allen?
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Why do I say Jake Allen?
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I know Jake Allen.
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That's why.
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You guys are so tight,
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you just call him Jake?
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No, no, no.
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I have a student named Jake Allen.
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I don't know who picked him up.
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Who got Josh?
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I don't know.
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He's on a tear.
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Uh-huh.
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Brock Purdy is the one that's lightened it
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up.
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He has almost a perfect QBR rating.
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They have a lot of injuries, too,
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but they still have their core still so
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strong.
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They just don't have depth right now.
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Yeah,
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the Niners just lost their left tackle,
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though.
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That's the one you're going to see.
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Are they going to make it through that
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one?
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That's the one that protects the
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quarterback.
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Yeah.
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So what the heck with this Case Keenum
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guy?
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Is he going to play again next week?
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Who?
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Case Keenum.
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Who's that?
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So he is the third string quarterback for
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the Bears because Caleb Williams is out.
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Tyson Bajent suffered a concussion.
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Like in practice, he suffered concussion?
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No.
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When Caleb got hurt a week ago,
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Tyson came in for the end of the
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game and suffered a concussion.
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I missed that.
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Didn't feel the symptoms until two days
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later.
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Oh, no.
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That happens quite often where symptoms
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come up later.
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So he cleared protocol on Sunday.
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They played last night.
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But because he didn't practice all week,
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they played the third string.
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I think Ben's going to play Tyson next
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week.
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I mean, he did really good.
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Really good.
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Like almost perfect.
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Before he got injured?
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No, this is Case Keenum.
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The third string.
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They beat the Eagles twenty seven to seven
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last night.
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Yeah.
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He threw two touchdowns, ran for another.
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He's thirty eight years old.
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Didn't think he was ever going to play
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again.
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He was really brought in to be like
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a coach player.
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To mentor Caleb and Tyson.
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Throw it into action and threw for two
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hundred fifty yards.
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Wow.
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Yeah, it's almost like a Disney story.
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It was crazy.
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Had his kids there,
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got they got to see him play for
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the first time.
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It was it was really it was really
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an emotional thing,
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but my my thing is nobody had film
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on him for like the last four years.
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Yeah.
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So now there's a film on him on
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how he plays.
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Can he pull that off again?
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Or do you bring in Tyson,
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who is completely new and fresh and
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actually has more talent than Case?
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What makes Tyson a very good backup
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quarterback, I guess, in the league?
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Because you say that he's basically one of
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the best backup quarterbacks.
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What makes him good?
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What's his strength?
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Intelligence.
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Yeah.
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And he's pretty mobile.
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And he is very accurate.
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He doesn't have the strongest arm,
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which is probably why he's not on that
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upper tier of quarterbacks.
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But all the intangibles he has.
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And Ben Johnson loves him.
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Right.
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Is that the head coach?
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Yeah.
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They always said he picked up the offense
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faster than anybody else he's ever had.
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What happens when a teammate gets traded
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and all of the signs and all of
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the plays, they would know?
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Do they have to continuously change their
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whole plays?
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That's not something in hockey you really
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have to think.
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If there's a trade, there's not as much.
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Because it's so much you just kind of
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get creative with the flow.
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In football, there's just specific plays,
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specific names to things.
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That's got to be hard.
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When you get players get traded midway
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through, they could be like,
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they're running this play.
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If you hear that word, this.
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How often do you – I don't have
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experience with football.
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So all the plays are now on like
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an iPad or something similar to that.
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They have to turn it in before they
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leave.
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And then I'm guessing they're locked out
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of all of that stuff.
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And that's why coaches have to show
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different looks before the play goes so
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that you can't... It's really complicated.
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But yeah, it is factored in, I'm sure.
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And it all depends on who's traded.
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Is it somebody that makes a big difference
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or not?
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I don't know if you saw last night,
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but TJ Edwards snuck over to the Eagles
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huddle when they were...
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trying to do a play,
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listened in for the play,
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and he used to play for the Eagles.
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He intercepted Jalen Hurts on that play.
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It was awesome.
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That should be illegal.
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That's ridiculous.
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He was on his own side.
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They just huddled really close to the ball
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because they were trying to hurry.
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He didn't get pushed away like Jack?
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No.
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Okay.
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Okay, well,
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let's get into the Wadapalooza stuff.
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That's what I thought of right away.
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That's pretty much what we're going to
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talk about tonight.
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We'll go through that and then we'll call
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it a night because it is a school
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night for all of us.
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Wadapalooza went on this weekend.
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It was Battle of the Camps.
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I gave my first impressions yesterday and
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I reserved everything else for tonight.
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I wanted to get your guys' just first
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overall impressions,
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and then we'll go down through different
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topics of the weekend.
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Do you want to go first, Jamie?
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Sure.
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I really like the format of more like
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a, I don't know,
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back-to-back-to-back event.
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You know, you get three events out there.
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I think that's great.
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I mean, we've talked about that, right?
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It's digestible when it happens like that.
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Yeah.
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Like, and we've said like,
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we think even for the sport,
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like that could be how it grows is
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like these gauntlet comps, like, you know,
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like a hierarchy,
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go do something for an hour and you're
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done.
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I think it's fan friendly.
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It's, it's viewer friendly.
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Even if you're at home and you're just
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like, all right,
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I just got to turn this on for
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three hours.
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I don't have to fast forward through a
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bunch of shit.
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Yeah.
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I like that.
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I like,
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I like the four.
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I think JR did a good job with
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the programming.
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There were a couple events where I was
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like, yeah,
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this could have been a little more
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interesting.
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Um,
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and I do think there's definitely
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something to the talk of having a minus
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one point or not,
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not getting the work done.
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Cause there was a little bit too much
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game gaming in this.
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Um, but I liked the four camps.
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I think TTT surprised a bunch of people.
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I was not surprised with how they did.
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Um,
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but I thought they looked great.
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I think Drew came in extremely
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overconfident, not,
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and Scott and I didn't pick through.
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We both, I mean,
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I picked out cast and Scott picked,
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we had picked last week.
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So I had picked out cast and Scott
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picked proven.
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Um, and so we were right there, right?
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Like could have gone, I guess we,
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we both won.
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Depends on what you used to think of
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the video footage at the end.
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Yeah.
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Um,
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but I think,
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I think it was a great event.
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I enjoyed it.
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I enjoyed watching it.
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I wish it would have ended a little
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differently.
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It's my final takeaways.
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Yeah.
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I'm basically the same.
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I enjoyed watching.
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Anytime I get to watch, you know,
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high level athletes in our sport,
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I get entertained.
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I'm a big CrossFit fan.
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So I was excited to watch all weekend
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long.
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I watched almost all the events closely.
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I thought there was good battles and
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on the female side of things,
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I thought the training think tank girls
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did amazing on the male side of things.
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I thought that the outcasts boy
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specifically like, um,
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tutor and bill had some more shining
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moments.
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Then Jack,
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Jack was just kind of steady overall.
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Like didn't really have any,
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I felt high or lows.
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Like he was just rock solid for them.
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Um,
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Very impressed with Annika.
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I thought that her or Bill were probably
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the two main players on, like,
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all the teams, I guess.
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That maybe contributed to the most points.
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Programming-wise,
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I thought the events were fine.
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Fun to watch for most of them.
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Some, like, the sandbag ones or, like,
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the warm ones, they're okay.
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The event that I enjoyed the most was
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the Rain Muscle Up sandbag one.
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personally which it wasn't really in a
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team one maybe that's why i liked it
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because it was like an individual event um
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which kind of goes back to like our
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teams as fun to watch yeah because the
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one that i like the most is like
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it was just an individual one and i
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was like oh this would be a really
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cool one at rogue like you know um
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like you know how they do the the
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duels yeah it was well like that was
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a nice kind of like
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type thing because it was like elimination
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style but it didn't go to like a
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two at the end but pretty close to
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like the same elimination stuff so I was
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like oh this is a nice event yeah
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nice to watch there what else judging
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seemed to be a big factor all weekend
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long like OutKast lost points over the
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weekend I think more than any other team
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so to me they were the best team
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and they were deserving to win and like
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people were picking at them all weekend
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long showing videos so
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I think I'm like,
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I'm okay with them winning with whatever
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happened on that last event,
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just because of some of the things that
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I probably I'm like disagreeing with if
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other teams are bringing forward appeals.
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But I mean,
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if that was the name of the game,
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then it is what it is.
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Um,
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but it seemed like everything was kind of
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towards them for a lot of it,
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but yeah, I enjoyed it.
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Um, yeah, it's good.
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So.
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We're going to do a whole judging section,
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but maybe they should limit the number of
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appeals like Major League Baseball to only
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two challenges, too many appeals.
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I think that's – maybe we'll just hit
20:53
judging now since we're on it.
20:56
I was – as a former judge,
20:59
I was highly,
21:00
highly disappointed in the judging.
21:03
You have four lanes on your featured
21:07
showcase event.
21:09
Four lanes.
21:11
You find the four or eight best judges
21:15
in the land who are there and you
21:19
make sure they are calling those events.
21:23
We're not talking like four heats of ten.
21:26
We're talking one heat of four.
21:32
Find the best you got.
21:34
It's like the NFL and the Super Bowl.
21:37
The referees that grade out the highest
21:40
throughout the season are picked to do the
21:42
Super Bowl.
21:44
We are late in the season.
21:46
Those head judges know who the best judges
21:49
are at that point.
21:51
I would assume that they pick them.
21:54
Well,
21:55
it's all of – so it's a community
21:56
event.
21:56
So I'm sure they needed hundreds of
21:59
judges.
22:00
Right.
22:01
But you make sure that of that pool,
22:04
you're getting the eight best for that
22:07
event.
22:08
But I'm going to assume that they probably
22:10
thought it was the eight best judges and
22:13
maybe they just made some mistakes when
22:16
judging.
22:17
It sounds like the judge for that last
22:21
event didn't know he was judging until
22:23
that one hit the floor.
22:25
Okay.
22:26
Yeah.
22:28
And the reason I say that Carolyn is
22:31
a lot of the judges that were like
22:33
the best judges in my time have moved
22:36
up to like head judges or event judging
22:40
coordinators.
22:42
It's four lanes.
22:44
You don't need a bunch of extra layers
22:47
of judging on the floor.
22:49
If your best judge is a head judge,
22:52
put them in a lane for that event.
22:56
there's,
22:56
there's something about like team judges
22:58
versus individual judges too.
23:00
So like,
23:01
I find that sometimes if you're an
23:03
individual judge,
23:05
it doesn't mean that you're a good judge
23:06
when it's partner stuff or big team
23:09
things.
23:09
Like there's multiple things you have to
23:11
look at once.
23:12
And sometimes you can get lost in your
23:13
account because you're so focused on two
23:15
people moving.
23:16
So like,
23:17
if you almost need to know who has
23:19
experience with team versus who has
23:21
experienced individually,
23:22
because there are two different styles of
23:24
judges.
23:24
So
23:26
have an answer for that the volunteer base
23:29
don't get to judge the individual athletes
23:31
at the games those are all red shirts
23:35
right so the volunteer base that work the
23:38
whole year judging everywhere else they
23:41
judge the teams at the games so you
23:45
can take that pool of people who work
23:49
the teams at the games and grab your
23:51
four best
23:55
Grab your eight,
23:55
grab twelve so you have subs.
24:01
It's too easy of a problem to solve
24:04
for it to have affected the weekend the
24:05
way it did.
24:06
Certainly affected the weekend because
24:11
like the points, but.
24:12
Well, that final event,
24:15
regardless of how many reps were done and
24:18
where they were done,
24:19
the judge shouldn't have allowed it.
24:21
That's on the judge.
24:24
If they moved one box ahead prematurely,
24:27
everything should have stopped and they
24:29
should have been pushed back.
24:31
The fact that the judge didn't understand
24:34
that synchro was only at the top.
24:37
Right.
24:38
That was an issue.
24:39
And was no repping at the bottom,
24:41
if they weren't synchroed at the bottom,
24:42
is a problem.
24:45
Yes.
24:45
And these workouts have been out for quite
24:46
some time, right?
24:47
At least three weeks,
24:48
I feel like we've been talking about them.
24:50
But were the standards all written
24:52
correctly?
24:53
i think so and i think they were
24:55
pretty clear like when you get some like
25:00
behind the scene footage and you hear adam
25:03
knifer or somebody saying well we were
25:05
briefed it was synchro at the top only
25:09
and ariel's saying that like and there's
25:12
some footage of like kevin even the head
25:15
judge doing like some of the briefing like
25:19
I think the standards were clear.
25:20
That last one isn't normally a movement
25:25
that you would synchro at the bottom.
25:27
That's the type of movement that's always
25:28
at the top.
25:29
A wall ball is always a certain way.
25:33
Snatches are always a certain way.
25:36
Burpees, that one,
25:37
it's like chest on the ground together.
25:39
When I judged...
25:41
Before we hit the floor,
25:42
there was a whiteboard and you would go
25:45
over all the standards right before you
25:47
hit the floor.
25:48
I can't say they did that at this
25:51
because I wasn't there.
25:52
But when I was a judge, and again,
25:56
it was when like Boz and Chuck Carswell
26:00
were the head judges.
26:02
And like they made sure your shit was
26:05
lined up and buttoned up before you hit
26:07
the floor.
26:08
They do that for the athletes.
26:10
I know that like at legends,
26:11
we were getting briefed on like all the
26:13
standards at the games.
26:14
They do it at WFP.
26:15
They do it when we're in the corral.
26:18
Do they redo it for the judges?
26:19
That's the thing, right?
26:21
Yeah.
26:21
That's what I'm telling you.
26:22
They did that.
26:23
They, when I was a judge,
26:24
we had that done before we hit the
26:26
floor.
26:27
Okay.
26:28
Right before,
26:28
like you would huddle up around the
26:32
whiteboard.
26:32
You would go over the standards and then
26:34
you would corral just like an athlete.
26:40
and so that's why it's unacceptable
26:42
because there is a standard of how to
26:45
judge or how to run the judging that
26:48
something was missed that is a basic
26:51
standard that was missed and no way does
26:54
an experienced judge allow someone to
26:58
advance a square without completing the
27:00
reps yeah you always push them back and
27:04
you just as an observer you can see
27:07
year after year after year,
27:09
competition after competition.
27:11
If you try to advance and you're not
27:13
ready to, you get pushed back.
27:19
This event was so freaking awesome.
27:23
To it end this way and this be
27:25
the conversation.
27:28
Especially with so much on the line,
27:29
like you're talking about a person.
27:31
You're talking about a fifth place at the
27:32
games.
27:36
Yeah.
27:37
Like that's
27:39
A lot of money.
27:41
And you could tell with those teams,
27:42
if you watch the behind the scenes,
27:44
it meant a lot.
27:51
Yeah.
27:51
Tessa said, did you ever F up judging?
27:54
I'm sure I did, but never that colossally.
28:00
And total transparency.
28:02
By the time I made it up to
28:04
the bigger levels,
28:06
I hadn't earned my way to the final
28:09
event on the floor.
28:10
So much on the line.
28:12
Right.
28:12
So I never I never I was working
28:15
my way up.
28:17
But by the time I was really close,
28:20
I retired from judging.
28:27
Yeah,
28:28
that's probably the only other time the
28:30
Kara Saunders event with the... Overhead?
28:35
Yeah.
28:37
Was that the two, two, two,
28:38
three overhead squat?
28:39
And then they gave her an extra,
28:41
or they calculated how long each rep took
28:43
and did like a retroactive type of what
28:46
her score would be.
28:49
So that's the only other time on a
28:50
big stage where I can remember it, but...
28:53
Like you guys said in your overarching
28:56
thing is it was so digestible.
28:59
It was so fun to watch.
29:05
I was really,
29:06
really enjoying the comp immensely.
29:10
And for it to end that way in
29:11
a big dud was just a huge lost
29:15
opportunity and why I'm upset with it.
29:19
Tessa, it was Cara.
29:20
Cara didn't do the last square.
29:23
But I think someone said like a Tia
29:25
versus Cara, but it was just Cara's,
29:29
I think.
29:29
Well,
29:30
Tia didn't hold the overhead position,
29:32
got pushed back,
29:34
had to redo the last rep.
29:35
Well, that's a different workout, too.
29:45
So, anyway.
29:46
Okay.
29:48
That's my feelings on the judge.
29:50
I was very happy that training think tank
29:53
were like in the lead and stuff like
29:55
for like a big part of the weekend
29:56
too.
29:56
And really battling with the top two
29:59
spots.
29:59
Cause like, no,
30:00
like a lot of people didn't have them.
30:03
No.
30:04
And like, you look at brew,
30:05
they have four people that have like
30:08
basically been a second place or a first
30:10
place out of six.
30:12
Like that's a great, great, great,
30:15
great team.
30:16
And for the last, right?
30:18
Like you're like,
30:20
what happened because even on some of the
30:21
ones that were just the three boys they
30:23
were getting outshined on on some of those
30:26
workouts right oh yeah the boys definitely
30:30
so it was uh i think uh i
30:34
don't know maybe a reality check that like
30:37
individuals maybe not the same thing as
30:38
team right because they came in very
30:42
confident like almost every interview like
30:44
dylan was like i feel like we should
30:45
get this we should win this i'll go
30:48
get this and i was like
30:51
Seems different.
30:52
Let me, let me ask you this.
30:55
Jason and Dallin were putting out YouTube
30:57
videos like crazy.
31:00
Was there a focus?
31:01
No, it's not them.
31:03
It's, it's their significant other.
31:06
That's doing all that.
31:08
Jason was doing the interviewing of the
31:10
questions.
31:12
Yeah, that's true.
31:12
But he's not,
31:13
I don't think he's editing any of it
31:15
and you can still be light and have
31:17
fun during competition.
31:18
I don't think that that takes away
31:19
anything from Jason.
31:21
I think that's part of his personality.
31:23
Do you think they knew they were going
31:28
to be hampered by the ladies so they
31:30
came in just to have fun?
31:33
I mean, I think they took it serious.
31:35
Don't get me wrong.
31:36
I think Dallin and Jason put it, like,
31:38
every time they stepped foot on the floor,
31:40
they tried their hardest.
31:41
But in one hand,
31:45
I think maybe they knew that the girls
31:47
weren't going to be able to hold up.
31:51
to the other girls.
31:51
They're not bad.
31:52
That's the thing.
31:53
They're not.
31:53
They're just not as long.
31:55
From this year.
31:56
Yeah.
31:57
You know?
32:00
Like, that's still a very, very good team.
32:02
They just, I don't think,
32:03
meshed very well.
32:05
Because individually, they're very good.
32:10
I believe that... Way too cocky.
32:13
I believe that the opposite for Eileen
32:16
and...
32:18
janie were that they don't they're not
32:20
confident enough yet yeah they're put on a
32:22
team with these studs and they're probably
32:26
questioning whether they belong or not
32:28
yeah all weekend like you could see them
32:31
like apologizing and what do i do here
32:35
and asking for guidance and it must feel
32:38
so shitty for them because they're
32:40
probably hearing every interview say that
32:43
they're the two weak links of the like
32:45
the whole comp basically but they weren't
32:48
very good.
32:50
When you said it on here,
32:52
there was a lot of just men events
32:54
and they didn't win those either.
32:55
Right.
32:57
Like they didn't make it to, you know,
32:59
Dallin got ripped off on just like,
33:02
like with the Colton picture or whatever,
33:04
like that one touch.
33:05
But even then, like they weren't,
33:10
they weren't dominating anything.
33:11
Even individually.
33:13
You look at Rob O and they almost
33:15
finished last.
33:16
Yep.
33:17
And that's three strong.
33:18
I mean, James is not as strong,
33:20
but he's strong now.
33:25
Jason Hopper, Dallin,
33:26
and James going through thirty.
33:30
And they barely beat the training think
33:34
tank boys for third place by like a
33:36
second.
33:39
Because I mean,
33:40
Tudor and Jack are going to be amazing
33:42
at that, but.
33:45
Do you think that Justin would have...
33:49
So that's the only event where I think
33:52
Jack was a good replacement.
33:54
I think Jack being hurt in that final
33:56
and all that situation sucked for them.
33:59
I think Justin would have been a great
34:02
teammate.
34:04
I just don't know.
34:06
Would he have been another Dalen or Jason
34:08
and they wouldn't have won that event by
34:11
how much they did?
34:13
I'm trying to think of the events that
34:15
Justin could have shined out.
34:17
Like maybe the, um,
34:20
legless rope climb on with the handstand.
34:23
He would have done great at that.
34:25
Then the, the outcast one, right?
34:29
Yes.
34:30
They won that anyway.
34:31
I think they wouldn't have won with like,
34:33
I think they would have still won.
34:34
I think they would have won with Justin
34:35
as well.
34:37
I'm trying to think of displacement of
34:41
gear.
34:43
I would think the big, like.
34:46
Jack did do well in the sandbag workout.
34:48
I think it would have been pretty close,
34:51
though.
34:52
Yeah.
34:53
Yeah.
34:57
And Ellie,
34:57
it just depends on how her back is
34:59
for the weekend.
35:00
Because, like, she has some home runs,
35:02
too.
35:04
Yeah.
35:05
But I think Abby was awesome.
35:07
Oh, yeah.
35:08
Great.
35:10
I mean, Abby's won events at the games,
35:11
right?
35:12
Yeah.
35:13
She has that home run ability.
35:14
Same with Hannah.
35:18
But for four days notice to come in
35:22
and knock it out the park was pretty
35:24
cool.
35:24
Four days notice and just making twenty
35:26
grand like that must be real nice.
35:30
Yeah,
35:30
her and Jack are thanks for inviting us.
35:34
Yeah,
35:34
Jack was already heading there for a trip
35:36
just supporting Emma and he's like, oh,
35:39
I guess I'll get twenty K this weekend.
35:44
the uh press conference they did where
35:45
they were talking smack might have been my
35:48
favorite thing from the weekend there was
35:52
no i i love good smack talking you
35:56
got plenty of it who was the biggest
35:59
smack talker oh colton mate yeah there i
36:08
mean they were all i feel like jay
36:10
and ricky were definitely throwing in some
36:12
digs and
36:14
didn't again i don't know what was totally
36:17
going through like jason and dalen's head
36:19
but they were clearly like jason was
36:24
willing to chat with everybody at all
36:26
times i just james's digs about jack was
36:35
heard that he was just here to to
36:36
follow em around like james was hitting
36:39
some home runs too
36:41
Jack is great, though.
36:42
I like Jack's wittiness and comments.
36:47
Jack's are definitely more cerebral.
36:49
Colton's are more cutthroat.
36:52
I didn't even know half their names when
36:53
I got here.
36:54
I know.
36:55
Like... Avera said,
37:01
imagine if TTT had Gabby,
37:02
who am I still waiting for a Clash
37:04
Zone interview?
37:06
What's that?
37:07
Is she still TTT?
37:09
She just went back home to...
37:11
Trent the Rogan.
37:13
Honestly, I don't know that.
37:15
Yeah.
37:15
I don't know that you would want to
37:17
replace Hannah.
37:19
Cause that's probably who you would
37:20
replace with Gabby because here's the
37:23
problem.
37:23
Like, yes,
37:24
the handstand pushup event was hard to
37:26
watch for those ladies, but those ladies.
37:30
together work incredibly well and hannah
37:33
is a home run hitter and that's what
37:34
you need in team and she did her
37:36
job on pretty much every event except for
37:40
that handstand push-up event if the men
37:42
had just gotten another point somewhere
37:43
and i felt really bad for i don't
37:46
i don't know if scott you haven't finished
37:48
watching it i don't know if you watched
37:49
it carolyn um savann's last uh behind the
37:53
scene
37:55
And Annika is just like so hard on
38:00
herself after that captain's event.
38:02
Cause she just, she feels,
38:04
she feels like they had it and she,
38:06
she let the team down,
38:07
but she did so good.
38:08
What did she do wrong in that one?
38:10
Captain's workout.
38:11
She just, she just,
38:12
I think she was slow at the snatches
38:15
and had to like break and just felt,
38:19
she felt,
38:19
she felt like Hannah should have done that
38:21
last workout.
38:23
but she was the captain.
38:25
What was the weight for the dumbbell?
38:27
I think it was only,
38:27
I think it was fifty-five.
38:29
I think it was seventy-five, fifty-five.
38:34
That should have been easy weight for
38:35
Annika,
38:36
and her range of motion is so smaller,
38:39
so much smaller.
38:39
I know.
38:41
Annika's always been harder on herself.
38:43
She's probably the athlete I've known the
38:45
longest.
38:46
Like,
38:47
I interviewed her back when she was a
38:49
teen athlete,
38:51
and we have been friends ever since.
38:55
it filled my heart this weekend to see
38:58
how well she was doing.
38:59
Because she has had some really bad luck
39:04
through the years.
39:06
With the late submission,
39:08
with missing out on the games by one
39:11
point two years in a row.
39:16
To see her shine this weekend,
39:18
I thought was awesome.
39:18
I agree.
39:21
And the camaraderie between her, Lydia,
39:23
and Hannah was a joy to watch.
39:28
Yeah, I like that.
39:29
And I like the Training Think Tank
39:31
Instagram stuff.
39:33
They poke fun at their own athletes.
39:36
I love their stuff.
39:37
If you know CPT, CTP, that's his humor.
39:45
That is who he is.
39:45
I think it's great.
39:48
And he's awesome too.
39:49
And he's one of my friends that I
39:51
hang out with in the media area every
39:53
event I go to.
39:54
So I love that TTT team.
39:57
If they just,
39:58
and I said this on our group chat,
40:00
like Travis is another one that's been on
40:02
the podcast a ton and has always done
40:06
an interview whenever I've asked.
40:09
he just looked old.
40:12
I agree.
40:12
No one still has it.
40:14
They needed, they needed someone,
40:17
another guy to, I mean, it sucks.
40:21
Cause like they,
40:22
they have shining moments,
40:23
but they're his level of fitness.
40:26
I do think has subsided just enough that
40:28
like, you just can't keep up with ability.
40:30
Right.
40:31
I think his priorities have just shifted.
40:34
Yeah.
40:36
You know, he's a business owner.
40:37
He has five kids.
40:41
That takes a lot.
40:46
I do think between the MVP award,
40:49
it should have been between Annika or
40:51
Bill.
40:53
They both did a lot for their team.
40:57
Noah's so popular.
40:59
He's such a good person.
41:00
I know.
41:02
It's almost like the spirit of the games
41:04
that he won.
41:04
He always wins it, though.
41:07
And it's a fan vote.
41:08
He's so popular.
41:10
He gets a lot of hate, though.
41:13
Sometimes I'm like, is he that popular?
41:17
Here's the thing.
41:19
If you're going to call it an MVP,
41:22
it shouldn't have been Noah.
41:24
Right.
41:26
If you're going to call it an MVP,
41:28
it shouldn't have been Noah.
41:30
I thought Noah was fun to watch all
41:32
weekend.
41:34
His excitement was fun to watch.
41:41
Third show is getting to me.
41:42
Get that water in you.
41:44
Or that service.
41:45
I don't know what you're drinking right
41:46
now.
41:48
If it is a Lazar Jukic Memorial Award
41:53
for sportsmanship and blah, blah, blah,
41:55
Noah should win it.
41:57
I get that.
41:59
But MVP should be a valuable player to
42:01
your team.
42:04
And third place team shouldn't have the
42:06
MVP.
42:06
MVP.
42:08
I know Asia Wilson wins it in the
42:11
WNBA and their team is third.
42:13
She's the best player.
42:14
It should have been someone from outcasts.
42:17
The logical choice was Bill.
42:19
Yeah.
42:19
I think the vote was done though.
42:21
What early, early Sunday or late?
42:24
You can start to vote early.
42:25
And at that point,
42:26
training think tank was leading.
42:28
So it's tough.
42:30
If people voted early,
42:34
then that might be what happened.
42:38
But the fan vote was only fifty percent,
42:40
right?
42:40
I think so.
42:43
So the experts who are the other fifty
42:47
percent could have swayed it one way or
42:50
another.
42:53
Again,
42:55
define for me what MVP means for this
42:58
competition,
42:59
and I and I can then argue it
43:01
one way or another.
43:03
And there's money for that.
43:04
It's not just a trophy, wasn't it?
43:05
Ten grand.
43:06
Yeah, damn.
43:12
I'm not accusing anybody of anything,
43:15
but Noah has been so aligned with
43:17
Wadapalooza for so long,
43:19
him winning it just feels a tiny bit
43:25
icky.
43:31
Or it feels kind of right that it's
43:33
him because he's been there.
43:35
You can look at it two ways, too.
43:38
I get the way that you're looking at
43:39
it, though.
43:39
You're giving him ten grand for it.
43:41
I know.
43:45
And you're putting up this show like the
43:46
fans get to vote,
43:48
and it just didn't feel right.
43:53
Yeah.
43:54
I would have loved to seen it go
43:55
towards either Bill or Anika.
43:57
Either one in my eyes.
43:58
I was just surprised.
44:00
I'm trying to think of a moment that
44:01
he had this weekend that I remembered him
44:05
just dominating.
44:05
I'm trying to think.
44:07
he did great on the handstand hold yes
44:11
um i mean well like i don't remember
44:16
a moment from him right like kind of
44:18
just was steady all weekend like he wasn't
44:19
bad at anything i felt kind of you
44:21
know yeah he was the team captain i
44:28
don't know if that had an impact on
44:29
it because that's the thing neither well
44:31
annika was that's the thing annika was
44:33
team captain
44:35
So if you wanted also somebody who led
44:38
their team, then I would go with Anika.
44:40
If I was looking at it that way
44:42
more than Bill,
44:43
because Bill wasn't the captain.
44:46
But, man.
44:47
I thought Ariel was a great captain.
44:50
And I thought she's like, if T-Bird,
44:53
if you pulled this off of something they
44:55
said is a so-called tradition,
44:57
SoCal tradition that goes to an athlete
45:00
who carries the same joy, passion, drive,
45:01
leadership,
45:02
and fun that Lazar carried on and off
45:05
the competition floor.
45:06
Ariel did exactly that.
45:09
Everything was about how amazing her team
45:11
was, how awesome they did,
45:13
how much everybody tried.
45:16
And everything she did was with a smile.
45:20
And she also won Spirit of the Games
45:22
this year because of how good she is
45:24
with that kind of stuff as well, right?
45:26
And her team won.
45:27
Yep.
45:28
Right?
45:28
She led them to a win.
45:33
The other thing is the MVP award has
45:37
gone to a male every time.
45:42
Who was year one?
45:43
Pat Vellner.
45:47
Pat, Justin, now Noah.
45:52
And the ladies are what make a team
45:55
win as we see.
45:57
Except for TTT.
46:02
No, I would say, I mean,
46:04
other than Hannah's performance in the
46:06
handstand pushup,
46:07
I would say if the men had just
46:09
gotten like.
46:10
No, that's what I'm saying.
46:12
Like normally the women make them win and
46:15
the women tried as much as they could,
46:17
but they didn't carry them.
46:20
Usually the men are all fairly even,
46:23
and it's how the women compete.
46:26
This time it was, for TTT,
46:29
it was the women were as good as
46:31
the men on every other team,
46:33
and their men couldn't hang on.
46:36
Chandler's coming back from a pulled
46:38
hamstring, too.
46:40
Yeah.
46:41
That was less than a month ago.
46:43
And Travis had a calf issue from the
46:46
games.
46:46
I know.
46:48
I did hear him talking about that.
46:51
Yeah, whatever.
46:54
Annika and Bill probably needed that money
46:56
more.
46:57
That should not be the voting criteria,
46:59
though, either.
47:01
But that's a valid argument.
47:03
True.
47:09
What did you think with broadcasting?
47:16
there was a lot of times that once
47:18
again,
47:19
I'm seeing the finisher or somebody
47:22
standing outside and I'm like,
47:23
why are we still not watching the race
47:25
on the floor?
47:26
I just don't know why we can't get
47:27
that right.
47:32
I I'm because it was free.
47:35
I try,
47:36
I'm trying not to be as critical about
47:37
the broadcast.
47:41
It has, it gets a different grade.
47:42
If you're going to charge me for it,
47:44
then I'll be harsher on the grading.
47:47
My biggest beef was they locked in on
47:50
one team a lot of times,
47:52
and you didn't see any of the other
47:54
three teams.
47:55
You could hear the commendators talk about
47:58
them, but we never saw them.
48:01
That was a little frustrating for me.
48:03
It's only four lanes.
48:05
Right.
48:06
Take a step back.
48:08
You can actually see all four lanes and
48:11
the people in them fairly easily.
48:15
It's not like a typical water Palooza with
48:18
twenty, thirty lanes.
48:20
Right.
48:21
Right.
48:21
It's only four lanes during Rob.
48:25
Oh, they're so close to each other.
48:28
Their barbells were basically hitting.
48:29
I saw Barbara's hitting each other.
48:31
I was wondering why they put them so
48:33
close together.
48:36
Did you see that the bars were literally
48:38
bouncing and like someone was cleaning and
48:41
like you're hitting the barbell of the
48:42
person beside you.
48:44
That's how close they were.
48:45
And there was like the whole other side
48:46
was fully empty.
48:48
I was wondering that one.
48:52
Yeah, they were close.
48:54
Yeah.
48:54
Broadcast.
48:55
Good video.
49:01
Especially watching the team that was done
49:02
rather than watching the last team still
49:04
working all the time.
49:06
I don't need to see people on the
49:07
ground when they finish.
49:10
I will say Peter and Chase did a
49:11
decent job about what was going on off
49:13
screen for the audience, which was nice.
49:17
My God,
49:17
Chase the one time was like ripping at
49:20
Aline for having knee sleeves.
49:21
Oh, I know.
49:24
I was like,
49:25
and they were in the lead.
49:27
And he was like,
49:28
what are you doing having your knee
49:29
sleeves on?
49:30
Look, you're wasting time.
49:33
Well, she would stop and pull them up.
49:35
Yeah, but a lot of people do that.
49:37
Like, you don't know if she has knees.
49:38
Like, she wants that rebound.
49:39
Like, those are high block jumps.
49:40
She's not very tall.
49:42
Not block jumps, the wobbles.
49:44
If I'm a fan of a team,
49:45
those are the things I yell at the
49:46
TV about.
49:48
Just go.
49:49
That's what I yell about Jamie all the
49:50
time.
49:50
You don't need to chalk.
49:52
Well,
49:52
I think from a broadcast that you might
49:55
think you want to say those things,
49:57
but I think in that case,
49:59
I probably wouldn't say that.
50:05
I think if you're in the way it
50:07
said,
50:08
I would be more like we're seeing an
50:11
athlete here, you know, taking a,
50:12
she's losing a little bit of time.
50:13
We'll have to see how she does in
50:15
the next few rounds.
50:16
If this is going to affect maybe another
50:18
team catching up.
50:20
But the way it was said,
50:21
I was like, he was really dogging.
50:22
He was really kind of going after her.
50:24
And I was like, damn, like,
50:27
I think that's a little bit like,
50:29
I don't know.
50:30
I don't think you need to do that,
50:32
but they were great.
50:33
I'll be dead.
50:34
Um,
50:35
Peter's done a good job so far in
50:37
the last year.
50:38
He's been adding to his resume of podcast,
50:42
and now he's doing this.
50:43
I think he's done a good job.
50:46
I mean, Chase has been doing it forever,
50:50
so he's got the experience.
50:54
Yeah, I enjoyed Peter.
50:56
And again, it was free,
51:00
and I need to remember that.
51:03
We're in a place with this sport where
51:07
They have to do it economically.
51:10
And if that means that we lose a
51:12
little bit of the coverage because they
51:14
need to do it in a cheaper way,
51:16
I have to start understanding that because
51:19
I don't want it to go away completely.
51:23
We were spoiled with the Reebok money era
51:28
when they could afford a lot of things.
51:31
have your flow membership did you watch
51:33
the first the two events that were flow
51:36
exclusive i haven't i haven't either i
51:40
haven't i have i have i kept my
51:42
flow isn't uh crash on flow as well
51:46
coming out yeah i'm not sure if any
51:51
or all of that is behind the paywall
51:54
or mostly free like this was i have
51:56
no clue
51:57
This is not confirmed,
51:59
but I've heard that the entire thing is
52:01
behind the paywall.
52:02
Okay.
52:05
I could see that for that event.
52:09
Yeah.
52:09
I mean, it's a small comp.
52:12
They're trying to put on it like it's
52:14
a big event.
52:15
And if they can get funding from Flow
52:17
to do that, that's cool.
52:21
Peter's new hair, pencil, pen, or Sharpie?
52:25
Pencil.
52:26
What was it?
52:28
The dyed blonde.
52:29
Oh, I don't like that.
52:32
He's done that before.
52:33
I don't like that.
52:38
Pencil.
52:38
Yeah, Janice's pencil too.
52:45
I wish you would take her over for
52:47
Derek.
52:48
I don't want to trash anybody tonight.
52:50
I'm trying not to.
52:52
I'm trying to be good about my analysis.
52:54
Grant,
52:55
I also would have paid if it would
52:57
have been three or four events behind the
52:59
paint wall.
53:01
I had family in town this weekend.
53:02
I was having a hard time keeping up
53:04
with everything.
53:05
And so at that point, I was like,
53:07
it's two events.
53:08
I'm having a hard time keeping up.
53:10
I'm not going to turn on my flow
53:12
elite for two events.
53:14
Right.
53:15
If I would have had nothing to do
53:17
this weekend, I would have done it.
53:21
But
53:22
Yeah, my grandniece turned one.
53:25
My mom came into town for it,
53:27
trying to get all that coordinated.
53:32
So, Jamie says eraser.
53:38
Shave it off, Peter.
53:45
Yeah, he's a lot of weight.
53:47
He's doing excellent.
53:49
He is.
53:51
Trying to stay ahead of him for a
53:52
little while.
53:53
But I got more to go.
53:57
T-Bird, I wasn't saying you were trashing.
53:58
I just...
54:02
I'm sure Derek is a good guy and
54:05
a nice guy.
54:06
I've never enjoyed him on the broadcast of
54:09
anything.
54:12
I don't know how he got the job.
54:15
But I've said that so many times.
54:19
At this point, I'm just like,
54:22
I love listening to Seth on the WFP
54:25
broadcast.
54:26
I love listening to Katrin.
54:28
So I will tune in for them because
54:30
I think they're great.
54:34
So I have to put up with Derek
54:36
to get Seth and Katrin.
54:39
If I'm watching the NFL on Sunday,
54:41
there are announcers I hate.
54:42
There are announcers that I like.
54:44
But my team is playing,
54:46
so I got to deal with whatever I
54:48
get.
54:59
So anything else?
55:01
Oh,
55:01
what about the Masters being tested at
55:03
Guadalupalooza SoCal?
55:04
Good.
55:04
I think that's great.
55:09
I think the best part of that is
55:11
that they probably weren't told.
55:12
Agreed.
55:12
That's great.
55:16
I think if we took advantage of...
55:17
How many got tested?
55:19
What's that?
55:20
How many got tested?
55:23
Just the first one.
55:26
I think I don't know if it was
55:28
every division.
55:29
I don't know if it was just like
55:30
below and below.
55:34
I don't even know how deep they went
55:35
there.
55:36
I don't even care about the number.
55:39
We need to have the threat.
55:41
Correct.
55:42
Like you go to MFC and you pick
55:45
six people to test.
55:48
I don't care what age group they're in.
55:50
I don't care what place they take.
55:52
Just go to some of these Masters comps
55:54
and grab five or six people and test
55:56
them.
55:58
Because then it puts a fear into people
56:00
that it can happen.
56:02
And it can happen outside of the games.
56:08
Go to a semifinal and instead of trying
56:11
to be...
56:12
have equality and not test anybody say
56:16
it's part of the random drug testing you
56:18
agreed to when you signed up for the
56:20
open we're picking six of you because
56:27
that's because i swear to god when we
56:29
had so many tests positive in birmingham
56:32
it's because they thought when it went to
56:33
legends they weren't going to test anymore
56:39
And we had pop, pop, pop, pop.
56:40
It was like a... What year?
56:41
Twenty-four.
56:42
Yes, twenty-four.
56:43
There was a lot that year?
56:46
Yeah.
56:47
Yeah.
56:48
Because I was doing the behind-the-scenes
56:50
documentary that year,
56:51
and then I had to do a whole
56:52
episode on all the people that popped and
56:55
had interviews with all of them.
56:58
Where were they getting popped at?
57:02
At Birmingham, you said?
57:02
Yeah, the...
57:03
Like at the Manchester Cross games?
57:04
Yep.
57:04
Yep.
57:05
And they only tested the top five.
57:08
And there was plenty.
57:09
This year they what?
57:10
They tested top three at the games, right?
57:13
Last year was top five or three?
57:17
I think five.
57:18
Yeah.
57:21
It should be top three and then three
57:24
at random within the division.
57:26
Totally agree.
57:27
It doesn't need to be top five.
57:29
It should be at random.
57:33
Shanna, yep.
57:33
So many that year.
57:38
It was crazy.
57:40
Cause I, and I, you,
57:42
you could look at some of the athletes
57:44
that year and you just.
57:44
I don't remember there being like so many,
57:48
I remember them being like us having a
57:52
few people that has positive that year,
57:53
but that many, like how many do you,
57:55
I don't know.
57:56
I mean a lot more than this year
57:59
or last year, like one, two,
58:02
like this year,
58:03
just one last year was two.
58:08
And even in like,
58:10
it was only a couple.
58:13
So when I say a lot more,
58:14
all it was like eight,
58:16
I think something like that.
58:20
I'm having like, I was thinking like,
58:24
because we were hoping that one,
58:27
was going to pop really bad.
58:32
So someone could podium that's on this
58:34
show.
58:39
Because a lot of people did,
58:40
but that person must be really smart about
58:43
the testing cycles.
58:50
But we were trying, we were hoping.
58:56
A couple other things that happened since
58:57
we,
58:58
this is one thing I wanted to bring
58:59
up to you.
59:01
So it was really fun watching this
59:03
weekend.
59:04
And if it wouldn't have ended with all
59:06
the drama,
59:06
I think it would have been great.
59:09
know this is a radical thought wouldn't it
59:14
be cool if crossfit off season of the
59:18
games made a team series where like and
59:23
this is stealing some of raf's um theories
59:27
on how to improve teams
59:29
but you had like the RX Mark your
59:31
team,
59:31
you have the victory grips team and you
59:34
assemble a team for the off season.
59:37
And you have a series of these events
59:39
like we had this weekend.
59:43
Where you could tell they really didn't
59:45
want to let their teammates down.
59:47
They gave everything they had.
59:51
And it's a way for the elite athletes
59:53
not to have to put their bodies through
59:55
an individual competition in the
59:58
offseason,
1:00:00
but to do a series of team events.
1:00:01
I don't think that they would do it.
1:00:02
I don't think they would care to.
1:00:07
I don't know that they would.
1:00:08
You'd have to put money up.
1:00:10
For a bunch of comps,
1:00:11
I think those individual athletes would be
1:00:14
like, no, I'm good.
1:00:15
I'll take my off-season.
1:00:16
I'll pick my robe,
1:00:18
whatever I want to do, and then travel.
1:00:23
Unless they all paid a bunch,
1:00:25
I just don't see them doing it.
1:00:27
You'd start getting way down the list of
1:00:30
those sponsored teams.
1:00:33
If I was president for a day,
1:00:37
I would turn Rogue into a team
1:00:39
competition.
1:00:42
I would have Waterpalooza's already there,
1:00:44
Waterpalooza Miami a team competition,
1:00:47
and make this series of events and put
1:00:50
big money behind it because it is way
1:00:53
more digestible.
1:00:55
It's a way to show off the sport
1:00:57
in a way that the individual comps with
1:01:01
all the heats and all the lanes don't
1:01:03
do.
1:01:07
That's if I was president for a day.
1:01:10
So we need to take the individual athletes
1:01:14
to make team events interesting.
1:01:17
That's a problem.
1:01:19
I don't care if all of them do
1:01:20
it or not.
1:01:21
Cause not all of them did this one
1:01:22
and it was still interesting.
1:01:29
Like we didn't have Amy Kringle.
1:01:31
We, we didn't have Justin Madaris.
1:01:33
We didn't.
1:01:34
And it was still a very interesting
1:01:36
competition.
1:01:38
But instead of like camps you,
1:01:44
because like TTT,
1:01:45
if they could have just had like one
1:01:47
other dude.
1:01:48
Right.
1:01:49
Right.
1:01:50
But if they were to team gym Reapers
1:01:53
and had the gym Reaper people do it
1:01:56
and gym Reapers gets to advertise and they
1:01:58
get their athletes out there with gym
1:02:00
Reapers.
1:02:02
And then you have team rad do something
1:02:04
over here with their athletes.
1:02:08
I don't think they want to compete this
1:02:12
much.
1:02:12
But they are.
1:02:12
They already are.
1:02:13
Individually.
1:02:16
But the individual event is like Rogue
1:02:19
beats your body to hell.
1:02:20
Yeah, but there's money there.
1:02:25
I'm saying we put the money here.
1:02:27
There's no money to put.
1:02:31
if you tell Jim Reapers,
1:02:33
you're going to have your own sponsored
1:02:35
team,
1:02:36
your own sponsored athletes that you get
1:02:39
to,
1:02:39
and then you bring your own video footage
1:02:41
or videographers and all of that stuff.
1:02:49
I think some of the, the,
1:02:52
the corporate sponsors would jump at that
1:02:54
chance.
1:02:59
They're already,
1:03:00
but like Jim Reapers is like,
1:03:02
I already paid.
1:03:04
It's not even that.
1:03:06
A hundred thousand a year.
1:03:07
Now you want me to put up another
1:03:08
three hundred thousand dollars just to get
1:03:11
my six good athletes that I already paid.
1:03:15
I didn't say three hundred thousand.
1:03:16
Keep programming this just comes to life.
1:03:18
Amongst people, I mean,
1:03:19
you're saying you're trying to make it as
1:03:23
money worthwhile as Rogue is.
1:03:26
Split amongst six people,
1:03:27
they're going to have to put up.
1:03:29
Three hundred grand,
1:03:30
that's fifty grand a person.
1:03:32
Yeah,
1:03:33
they're not going to waste their time for
1:03:34
four grand.
1:03:37
didn't say four grand either well i mean
1:03:40
i would so you say team again i
1:03:43
said team competition i don't want it to
1:03:45
be the traditional games team programming
1:03:49
that sucks it's way too much worm nobody
1:03:52
likes to watch the worm it's boring as
1:03:54
hell but you can have an event where
1:03:56
like your best female goes against their
1:03:59
best female and their best female in one
1:04:02
event
1:04:03
And then in the next event,
1:04:04
the best male, best male, best male.
1:04:07
This event,
1:04:08
we have two and two out of the
1:04:11
six.
1:04:11
This event we have.
1:04:13
So you're not like beating your body to
1:04:15
hell,
1:04:16
but you kind of stay in shape in
1:04:18
the offseason.
1:04:19
It's a way to make extra money without
1:04:21
the beatdown.
1:04:27
It's okay.
1:04:28
You all can hate my idea.
1:04:31
My genius will not be understood until
1:04:33
long after my time.
1:04:37
It's not grid-leg Phil.
1:04:40
I don't want to do stupid backflips after
1:04:42
a burpee or I don't want to lose
1:04:46
the standards of CrossFit.
1:04:47
I just want it to be something consumable
1:04:51
and watchable.
1:04:52
I get what you're saying a little bit.
1:04:54
That's kind of what JR did with this.
1:04:55
There was the two-person attempt,
1:04:59
the head-to-head attempt,
1:05:00
the teams of four, teams of six.
1:05:03
It's taking the format we just saw and
1:05:07
applying it
1:05:09
And maybe you start out as one event,
1:05:12
one event where Jim Reapers gets to make
1:05:15
a team, Rad gets to make a team,
1:05:17
but you can't go beyond more than five
1:05:19
teams.
1:05:20
It's got to be done on a floor
1:05:22
that everybody can be seen.
1:05:25
Yeah, I think it's one time a year.
1:05:29
One time.
1:05:30
I don't think this is a series.
1:05:33
See,
1:05:33
I think it's way more watchable than...
1:05:39
All the events are the same.
1:05:43
It's getting to be redundant when you have
1:05:46
three WFPs, the games, the semifinals,
1:05:50
Rogue, Waterpalooza, Miami.
1:05:53
It's just redundancy.
1:05:55
It's the same stuff over and over again.
1:05:59
I'd much rather watch something like this
1:06:01
to refresh my brain a little bit.
1:06:05
Because like...
1:06:07
I loved what JR said about the opening
1:06:11
event.
1:06:12
Every event, because of redundancy,
1:06:15
starts with a long run or a long
1:06:18
row so everybody can get the jitters out.
1:06:21
Why not start with something that's
1:06:22
nerve-wracking?
1:06:23
You've got five seconds to get into a
1:06:25
handstand, and you've got to hold it.
1:06:29
You've got to do unbroken triple-unders,
1:06:31
and the minute you break, you're done.
1:06:34
Like,
1:06:34
I love that aspect that it's new and
1:06:37
refreshing and not the same thing we see
1:06:40
at every comp through the year.
1:06:42
Yeah, I get that.
1:06:47
And maybe Waterpalooza is on to something
1:06:49
and they're moving in that direction where
1:06:52
it could make more sense economically.
1:06:59
Here's the biggest problem.
1:07:01
If you sponsor each team,
1:07:02
you'll never get a lead sponsor because
1:07:06
they don't want to be on the same
1:07:07
billboard with these five.
1:07:14
But like you look at F one or
1:07:16
you look at NASCAR and the sponsors of
1:07:20
that car, like it just makes, it's,
1:07:28
it's been done before in other sports.
1:07:30
That's all.
1:07:32
i'm not saying get rid of the game
1:07:33
season the game season stays pristine it
1:07:36
is what it is that's the big individual
1:07:38
comp of the year but i think the
1:07:42
biggest thing is i think the game season
1:07:45
needs to get condensed into like four
1:07:48
months or five months open quarters semis
1:07:52
whatever done then you can do whatever you
1:07:55
have a bigger off season and then other
1:07:57
opportunities
1:08:02
It won't be refreshing if you see it
1:08:04
three or four times a year though,
1:08:06
but you can change the format of like
1:08:09
who takes the floor for each event.
1:08:12
It can be a single person.
1:08:14
It can be three people.
1:08:16
It can be two people.
1:08:17
It can be all six people.
1:08:20
Like you,
1:08:21
there's so much more variety you can come
1:08:23
up with in that format than just an
1:08:26
individual competition.
1:08:27
There's only so many movements.
1:08:36
But again,
1:08:37
it was just a thought I had.
1:08:40
I know I'm not going to convince you.
1:08:41
It's fine.
1:08:44
I think that's not for a series.
1:08:45
I think like Waterpalooza is on to
1:08:47
something in terms of whether it's camps,
1:08:49
whether it's sponsored teams that are
1:08:51
there.
1:08:52
I'm good.
1:08:53
I just don't see it being a series.
1:08:55
I think people want to like take time
1:08:57
off.
1:08:57
I think that there's other big comps kind
1:09:01
of interfering within that.
1:09:03
But the Waterpalooza has something right
1:09:05
now,
1:09:05
and it's a good time of the year.
1:09:06
It's early September, mid-September even.
1:09:11
That has something.
1:09:12
It's got some potential,
1:09:13
and it's been good the last few years.
1:09:17
Serious thing?
1:09:18
I don't know.
1:09:25
Okay.
1:09:25
We'll address this again next time.
1:09:26
I'll bring back the golden barbell.
1:09:34
We didn't really talk about Justin's
1:09:35
accident.
1:09:36
It prevented him from being there.
1:09:40
As a former motorcycle rider,
1:09:44
so many times people have pulled out in
1:09:47
front of me when I was on my
1:09:49
bike.
1:09:50
So many times.
1:09:51
I mean,
1:09:51
I was this close to having an accident.
1:09:58
I bet you he never rides again.
1:10:08
I hope he gets better.
1:10:09
It sucks.
1:10:12
I liked what Ariel said.
1:10:13
I'm sure you're really going to get sick
1:10:14
of smoothies.
1:10:15
I had a hockey teammate that had a
1:10:19
wired shot for like a while.
1:10:24
I remember a time when people did that
1:10:26
on purpose to lose weight.
1:10:29
Really?
1:10:30
Wow.
1:10:32
And had to like syringe in their food.
1:10:37
crazy they did a good um tribute to
1:10:40
him that video on youtube that i was
1:10:43
watching tonight yeah i got through seven
1:10:46
of the ten minutes right before we started
1:10:49
it's really good really fun some of the
1:10:51
people really gave him some jabs that a
1:10:55
good thing you had a big head because
1:10:56
the swelling isn't his that was uh adam
1:11:05
uh from rad
1:11:07
Oh, gosh.
1:11:08
He did the four-minute mile,
1:11:10
five hundred pound.
1:11:12
Clink, yeah.
1:11:13
Adam Clink.
1:11:19
I hope he doesn't have chronic TMJ pain.
1:11:23
My wife has TMJ.
1:11:25
It's awful.
1:11:33
Yeah, it was a nice video.
1:11:36
I enjoyed it.
1:11:42
I'm not going to say it.
1:11:44
I'm going to keep it internally.
1:11:47
CrossFit partnered with Athex.
1:11:49
I think that's good.
1:11:52
Today I got an email from CrossFit.
1:11:56
They updated their website too and they
1:11:59
put all the champions of the year on
1:12:01
there too.
1:12:02
Did you get that email?
1:12:04
If you look at the game site, they
1:12:09
um what time was it that i got
1:12:11
it says the hopper welcome back i saw
1:12:13
the hopper welcome back email but like the
1:12:16
news and updates if you go to it
1:12:19
let me go to my phone like the
1:12:21
way that they have their thing like they
1:12:26
have like you can now click hold on
1:12:27
let's see on different stuff but then they
1:12:30
went put like information on ethics
1:12:34
You can click on the games.
1:12:36
You can probably just visit the CrossFit
1:12:39
Games website, maybe share it right now.
1:12:41
They have information about the national
1:12:42
champion.
1:12:47
All of the champions from the year,
1:12:50
if you go to read more,
1:12:51
the fittest of the games.
1:12:52
You have all the champions there.
1:12:57
It looks like they're going to start
1:12:58
adding maybe some more stuff,
1:13:00
but
1:13:01
So they have on their app,
1:13:05
I think it was their app or something.
1:13:07
But if you go to off season and
1:13:10
their thing, on the latest news,
1:13:14
they have a list of all licensed CrossFit
1:13:16
events.
1:13:17
Yeah.
1:13:17
That's what I was looking at.
1:13:18
The twenty twenty six national champions.
1:13:21
But in the off season,
1:13:22
like it's starting to promote the ethics,
1:13:25
the xenon.
1:13:28
So I just thought that was interesting.
1:13:35
That's good.
1:13:39
There we go.
1:13:39
So on news, they're there.
1:13:44
I forget where I was watching,
1:13:46
where I was reading it today,
1:13:47
but they were showing all the upcoming big
1:13:50
competitions coming up,
1:13:52
including ethics and Xenon.
1:13:54
And it was like CrossFit partnered events,
1:13:56
CrossFit license events.
1:13:58
And they're promoting different types of,
1:13:59
I don't know if it was on the
1:14:00
app or not,
1:14:02
No, that's not a calendar.
1:14:05
I was looking at it today.
1:14:07
But maybe I just haven't been watching or
1:14:12
haven't been on the site to see it.
1:14:17
I'll find it.
1:14:20
Speaking of which,
1:14:21
there was an announcement that they're
1:14:22
going to offer a partner version of the
1:14:25
open.
1:14:26
Yeah, like that.
1:14:29
I think newbies,
1:14:29
I think that's a great idea.
1:14:30
Just partner up, get the workout done.
1:14:32
I don't know if it's like synchro how
1:14:35
they're going to do that.
1:14:36
But I think it's a way to do
1:14:38
the open with training wheels to bring
1:14:40
people in who would be intimidated.
1:14:43
Yeah, like,
1:14:43
I don't have the chest of our but
1:14:45
I still want you to work out our
1:14:46
x, you have chest of ours,
1:14:47
you do all the chest of ours,
1:14:48
I do this.
1:14:49
And who knows?
1:14:52
Now, if you do a partner, how many?
1:14:54
How will the leaderboard get
1:14:58
It's got to be its own leaderboard.
1:15:00
Yeah,
1:15:00
but how much will it get messed up?
1:15:01
It already gets messed up quite a bit
1:15:04
where people write Rx instead of scaled.
1:15:06
Now if they go and submit their scores,
1:15:09
but it was a partner work, you know.
1:15:10
Well, I think if you're doing it partner,
1:15:13
you're not there to compete and be on
1:15:15
the leaderboard.
1:15:17
You're there because there's the way it
1:15:20
was explained,
1:15:21
there is no standard as to who does
1:15:23
what work.
1:15:26
And so...
1:15:29
one one pair may split it.
1:15:32
One may this person does all the chest
1:15:34
to bar and this person does all the
1:15:37
deadlifts and like,
1:15:39
so it'd be impossible to compare.
1:15:43
But I do think it's a way to
1:15:45
be a part of the community for these
1:15:47
gyms that have big community events every
1:15:50
weekend without the intimidation of having
1:15:53
to do the workout themselves.
1:15:58
Yeah, I don't know.
1:16:00
I don't know how I feel about it.
1:16:00
Because I feel like the whole point of
1:16:02
the Open and the reason you get hundreds
1:16:04
of thousands of people that sign up is
1:16:06
to do a standard workout and see where
1:16:12
you compare.
1:16:13
And if we lose those standards...
1:16:17
Who says you're losing the standards?
1:16:19
Because you just said it.
1:16:20
There's literally... What gets Joe...
1:16:25
after this year when he does partner and
1:16:27
does twelve percent of the work what gets
1:16:30
him to realize that he improved next year
1:16:33
maybe joe doesn't care then i mean then
1:16:38
why like just do
1:16:41
class community workout uber scaled like
1:16:46
that like what does he even need to
1:16:47
sign up like he doesn't even need to
1:16:50
sign up he would just be part of
1:16:52
his community at his gym you either care
1:16:54
or you don't like you either are signing
1:16:56
up as a team to be on a
1:16:58
leaderboard you're an open snob if you're
1:17:01
paying to do a team workout with somebody
1:17:04
at your gym you you care enough to
1:17:06
be on a leaderboard maybe you just want
1:17:08
to be part of the group
1:17:10
Then just show up at your affiliate and
1:17:12
do the damn workout and be a part
1:17:13
of the group.
1:17:15
You are such an open snob.
1:17:17
You want your pristine open to be your
1:17:19
open, just like it's always been.
1:17:22
Screw the rest of you that may want
1:17:24
to come in.
1:17:26
What I would like for CrossFit to do
1:17:30
is write standards for each level.
1:17:36
Kind of like, you know, level one,
1:17:38
this is what you're able to do to
1:17:40
get to level two.
1:17:41
You have to be able to do this
1:17:42
workout or these movements at these
1:17:45
weights to get to a level ten.
1:17:47
You're able to do these like and there's
1:17:49
like a bunch of benchmark results of like
1:17:51
that is a level ten.
1:17:53
So then people can be like,
1:17:54
I'm a level three CrossFitter.
1:17:55
I'm a level.
1:17:57
And then like over the years,
1:17:59
you can kind of like play around with
1:18:01
those like every few years as the
1:18:05
know fitness level kind of changes i think
1:18:07
that was called levels back in and then
1:18:12
crossfit like that could be cool though
1:18:14
for members to kind of see progressions
1:18:17
and just be like it sounds like and
1:18:20
make the levels kind of matter which is
1:18:23
what we do at our gym when when
1:18:25
they did levels i thought it was a
1:18:27
cool idea but crossfit didn't stick with
1:18:29
it they didn't promote it and i just
1:18:31
think
1:18:33
because the workouts change every year for
1:18:35
the open, you're like,
1:18:36
did I get fitter or we just didn't
1:18:37
test it, right?
1:18:39
But it's like this,
1:18:40
in order to actually move up levels,
1:18:42
like you just, you perform these, right?
1:18:45
Like these- Vicki,
1:18:46
it's now called Community Cup and the
1:18:49
levels are completely different.
1:18:54
And they don't even promote that.
1:18:57
Here's my wish for the new season.
1:19:00
If you're going to implement something,
1:19:03
promote it and get behind it.
1:19:07
Don't just,
1:19:09
it just reminds me of the Seinfeld episode
1:19:11
about the,
1:19:12
they made a reservation and they get there
1:19:14
and their table's taken.
1:19:17
And Jerry says, well,
1:19:18
anybody can just hand out reservations.
1:19:20
You get one, you get one.
1:19:22
What's important is the holding of the
1:19:24
reservation, the holding.
1:19:28
Like,
1:19:28
CrossFit's good at throwing out all the
1:19:30
ideas,
1:19:31
but then they don't do anything to back
1:19:33
any of them.
1:19:37
That's my worry with this partner thing.
1:19:40
Like,
1:19:41
I don't know that it's going to get
1:19:42
any traction.
1:19:43
I don't think it's going to get promoted.
1:19:46
I don't think it's going to be clear
1:19:47
to anybody exactly what they need to do.
1:19:51
I think this is going to go...
1:19:53
There are people at gyms that I've been
1:19:55
a member of who could care less about
1:19:58
the competition and just want to have fun
1:20:00
with their friends.
1:20:01
Give them a separate leaderboard.
1:20:03
Do it as a partner.
1:20:05
Go have fun.
1:20:05
They used to do the team.
1:20:09
They did that.
1:20:10
Why does it have to be separate?
1:20:12
Why does it have to be segregated?
1:20:14
Why can't we come together?
1:20:17
Because it's different.
1:20:19
Partner and team stuff is just different.
1:20:22
See, I like the team series,
1:20:23
but I think there should be a finals
1:20:24
for team series.
1:20:27
That's another one of those reservations
1:20:30
that CrossFit just threw out there and
1:20:32
didn't back.
1:20:34
I did that one of the years.
1:20:37
I did it every year.
1:20:41
I like that more than the Open.
1:20:42
Yeah, that was fun.
1:20:45
And I threw up way more in that
1:20:46
one because I didn't want to let my
1:20:47
teammates down.
1:20:53
I threw up every team series,
1:20:56
every single one.
1:20:57
And I never throw up any other time
1:20:58
of the year.
1:20:59
Hopefully not on the floor with your
1:21:02
partner.
1:21:02
No,
1:21:02
I always made it out the back door.
1:21:04
It wasn't a high rock situation.
1:21:10
But if I knew it was going to
1:21:11
happen,
1:21:11
I made sure we were set up by
1:21:13
the back door.
1:21:16
And I always waited until the – I
1:21:18
was always able to make it to the
1:21:19
end.
1:21:26
We can't get anybody to even like the
1:21:28
individual programming.
1:21:29
Now you want to throw a double at
1:21:32
them?
1:21:33
You want to throw a series for the
1:21:35
teams that – Not by CrossFit.
1:21:38
I want someone else to do it.
1:21:40
I want it to be different.
1:21:50
Here's the problem.
1:21:54
We have all these people who don't want
1:21:56
CrossFit to change at all.
1:21:58
It's their CrossFit.
1:21:59
It's the way it's always been,
1:22:01
and it's the way I want it to
1:22:02
be.
1:22:03
That's Jamie.
1:22:04
But in the same breath,
1:22:05
then you can't bitch that it's not growing
1:22:10
and not bringing other people in.
1:22:14
Because the definition of insanity is
1:22:16
doing the same thing over and over and
1:22:18
over again, expecting different results.
1:22:20
Oh, but we haven't done that.
1:22:22
It's changed every year.
1:22:25
So just give me five years of twenty
1:22:28
seventeen and then I won't complain.
1:22:32
It's changed every year,
1:22:34
but but nothing to reach out to anybody
1:22:37
different.
1:22:41
Just the elite athlete season structure.
1:22:47
For Joe showing up at the gym,
1:22:50
it's the same thing every year.
1:22:52
Other than the Open went from five to
1:22:54
three weeks.
1:22:56
for Joe showing up for the last five
1:22:58
years it's changed into the point that he
1:23:00
no longer knows anybody that goes to the
1:23:03
games or regionals and there's nobody from
1:23:05
his gym to cheer for there's nothing local
1:23:07
for him to go that's the problem we've
1:23:10
made it it's very clear what the problem
1:23:12
is that there isn't regions that people
1:23:14
can quickly get to to cheer on and
1:23:17
it isn't it's become a whole separate
1:23:21
level that in one hand it's
1:23:24
It's almost like it seems easier to be
1:23:26
a semifinal athlete,
1:23:28
but that's because it's online.
1:23:29
So you can call yourself a semifinal
1:23:31
athlete,
1:23:32
but there's no prestige behind it.
1:23:34
And that was what was cool is Joe
1:23:37
worked out next to Sally who made it
1:23:39
to regionals and he got to go cheer
1:23:42
her on.
1:23:42
Can I say that my first gym,
1:23:45
not one single athlete from my gym made
1:23:47
it to regionals or anything above from the
1:23:51
whole time I was there.
1:23:52
Nobody in Masters, nobody in Elite,
1:23:55
and we still paid attention to everything,
1:23:57
and we still had fun at CrossFit,
1:23:59
and we all did the Open.
1:24:03
That's a rare gem.
1:24:07
It's making it fun for people and not
1:24:09
a job.
1:24:11
Like this whole era where we went from
1:24:13
–
1:24:15
Coaches programming for their own gym to
1:24:18
when we all went to the Bergeron comp
1:24:21
train bullshit where he trained you like
1:24:24
you're getting ready for the games and
1:24:27
let's forget about the fun.
1:24:29
And now we've got like eighteen people
1:24:31
programming for all the gyms and they're
1:24:33
all doing the same shit.
1:24:35
And it's not catered to the people in
1:24:37
your gym because a lot of the people
1:24:41
doing it don't have the...
1:24:44
chutzpah to look at what the template
1:24:48
that's given to them and change it for
1:24:51
their gym like i talked to you jamie
1:24:56
and you're like yeah we get programming
1:24:58
from here but i have to change it
1:24:59
up for my people that is rare these
1:25:02
days that's the personal part of going to
1:25:09
a gym that we've lost
1:25:14
So I guess I'm just looking for places
1:25:15
where we can have some fun again.
1:25:22
Yeah, that's fair.
1:25:25
When we switched from our owner doing the
1:25:27
programming to, to comp train,
1:25:30
I wanted to quit.
1:25:36
I didn't want to do dumbbell snatches
1:25:37
every other day.
1:25:42
Dumbbell snatches are fine movement.
1:25:44
I like doing them occasionally.
1:25:45
I don't need to do them every other
1:25:47
day.
1:25:48
I'm not competing.
1:25:50
I'm just trying to get fit.
1:25:52
But when he was programming,
1:25:54
it was a mix of CrossFit and like
1:25:56
plyo by Prevo.
1:25:59
Like we did hurdle hops.
1:26:01
We did stuff like that that got all
1:26:03
eliminated when we went to this
1:26:05
standardized programming.
1:26:08
We did hurdle hop last week.
1:26:09
I switched a day to that.
1:26:13
Go to another CrossFit gym and ask them
1:26:15
the last time they did a hurdle hop.
1:26:18
I just put them in.
1:26:20
I hear you, though.
1:26:20
No, I hear you.
1:26:22
Yeah, I know.
1:26:22
I have to specifically put that stuff in.
1:26:25
Like,
1:26:25
if you took the plyo stuff away from
1:26:28
Carolyn,
1:26:28
she wouldn't have the fun she's having
1:26:30
today.
1:26:32
Nope.
1:26:38
Yes,
1:26:38
our programming is usually way too
1:26:39
advanced for our gym members.
1:26:43
And the excuse behind it is you program
1:26:46
for the best and scale for the rest.
1:26:49
That's what I was just going to say.
1:26:50
Because Aaron and I just had this
1:26:51
conversation last weekend.
1:26:55
Because I feel like that's technically the
1:26:59
is.
1:27:00
I was like, well,
1:27:01
it needs to be written for me.
1:27:02
And he's like, no, it doesn't.
1:27:04
You need to stop with that.
1:27:05
And I was like,
1:27:06
that's what they say to do.
1:27:08
He's like,
1:27:08
you need to just program for the masses.
1:27:14
So the goals have to be attainable.
1:27:21
If the goals are not attainable for people
1:27:23
to ever reach a level that they are
1:27:27
proud of themselves for,
1:27:29
now you have a level method.
1:27:30
So you have multiple levels, right?
1:27:33
Most gyms don't have that.
1:27:34
You have RX and scaled.
1:27:39
And if you make RX so hard every
1:27:41
stinking day.
1:27:44
Yeah.
1:27:45
And your gym members start going, well,
1:27:48
I'm never, I'm never getting there.
1:27:54
I have a coworker that just began CrossFit
1:27:57
maybe a month and a half ago.
1:28:00
And like, it's disappointing for her.
1:28:01
Cause she was just like,
1:28:03
like she looks at like what the RX
1:28:05
is.
1:28:05
And I'm like, try to tell her, like,
1:28:07
don't worry, just do the scale.
1:28:08
She's like,
1:28:08
Okay,
1:28:09
but I want to be able to feel
1:28:11
like I'm doing a prescribed workout
1:28:14
sometimes.
1:28:16
Right?
1:28:17
So I get that.
1:28:19
And it doesn't have to be every day.
1:28:21
Just occasionally put a carrot out there
1:28:24
that they get to mark the RX box.
1:28:28
She's like,
1:28:28
I just always have to modify everything.
1:28:30
This, this, this.
1:28:31
She's like, it just doesn't feel good.
1:28:34
So she's on the fence of continuing.
1:28:36
Because it just is like...
1:28:38
scale scale skills good but like also like
1:28:42
it's in there she's new to this so
1:28:43
it's in her head that like just modifying
1:28:45
everything she's not doing the same thing
1:28:47
and yeah that is a reality check it's
1:28:50
hard for people and i think we've lost
1:28:53
so many people because of that i agree
1:29:06
Phil,
1:29:06
I'm not saying you scale it for the
1:29:08
pair.
1:29:08
I'm saying that I'm trying to look for
1:29:10
avenues to insert fun back into this.
1:29:14
For a lot of us,
1:29:16
unlike the two people on my show with
1:29:17
me, this is not my job.
1:29:20
This is not my life's goal to make
1:29:23
it to the games.
1:29:25
And I applaud them and I'm so proud
1:29:27
of them and I want them to do
1:29:29
that.
1:29:30
But for me, that's not a reality.
1:29:32
I'm just trying to be healthy.
1:29:34
And to be healthy,
1:29:35
I want to have fun.
1:29:38
Don't make it another job.
1:29:39
I have one already.
1:29:41
You got to get back to your affiliate.
1:29:45
I will.
1:29:45
I'm calling you out.
1:29:55
I'm good with the old and scaled.
1:29:58
No one wants to feel scaled.
1:30:01
It's like some people understand it and
1:30:03
thrive with it and other people,
1:30:04
it's a really big thing.
1:30:07
we're really struggling with that at the
1:30:09
gym.
1:30:09
It is finding a, a balance.
1:30:12
Like you said,
1:30:12
it's called like being able to RX here
1:30:14
and there.
1:30:16
We're just like,
1:30:17
it just is a feel good.
1:30:19
You did it, you know,
1:30:20
you completed whatever movement.
1:30:23
Well,
1:30:23
I think even like the old girl workouts,
1:30:26
um,
1:30:27
Some of them are attainable for people.
1:30:30
But we have said, well,
1:30:31
that's that's two thousand eleven.
1:30:33
We need to up Fran to one fifteen
1:30:37
or we like.
1:30:38
And that's what's happening in the
1:30:39
programming.
1:30:39
Oh, yeah.
1:30:41
Fran is still effective at ninety five
1:30:42
pounds.
1:30:43
Oh, yeah.
1:30:46
Like you can still do it at those
1:30:48
lower weights or what's the the overhead
1:30:52
squat run one, Nancy?
1:30:55
Yeah.
1:30:56
Yeah, five rounds.
1:30:57
That was one of the first workouts I
1:30:58
ever RXed.
1:31:00
That's hard as hell.
1:31:03
Ninety-five pound overhead squat was rough
1:31:06
for me at the time.
1:31:11
And four hundred meter runs aren't a joke.
1:31:16
What is it, five rounds, right?
1:31:18
Yeah.
1:31:19
I mean,
1:31:19
you're running a mile and a quarter and
1:31:24
squatting a lot.
1:31:33
I'm a competitive person,
1:31:34
so I want to do the best,
1:31:35
what the best are doing.
1:31:37
We all want to feel,
1:31:39
we all want to feel accomplished.
1:31:45
I just,
1:31:46
I hate that part of where CrossFit has
1:31:48
gone.
1:31:50
We think that because the elite athletes
1:31:52
have improved so much since twenty eleven,
1:31:55
but the average Joe CrossFitters haven't.
1:31:59
So making Diane, damn Diane,
1:32:03
at the affiliate doesn't always make
1:32:05
sense.
1:32:07
Or making Nancy nasty or naughty Nancy or
1:32:11
whatever you're doing doesn't always make
1:32:14
sense.
1:32:19
Jamie's battery died on her ring light.
1:32:22
I have to go.
1:32:23
Okay.
1:32:25
All right.
1:32:26
I said we were going to go short
1:32:27
tonight and we went long.
1:32:28
So there it is.
1:32:31
It happens every stinking time.
1:32:33
Jamie pisses me off and then I've got
1:32:35
to fight.
1:32:38
All right, guys,
1:32:39
I'll be back tomorrow for another one
1:32:41
show.
1:32:42
Hopefully today we won't talk about,
1:32:44
or tomorrow we won't talk about poop
1:32:45
again.
1:32:45
Oh my gosh.
1:32:47
With that, I'll talk to you later.
1:32:50
Bye.