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Property tax elimination proposed · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: Greeting salitations, Welcome my friends to another edition of The
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  Speaker 1: Power Hour on six tenu WTV, and I'm Chuck Douglas.
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  Speaker 1: You know who you are, and we take it from there.
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  Speaker 1: We get one hour together, which means I talk really
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  Speaker 1: fast and you must listen even faster. My number eight
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  Speaker 1: to nine eight eight six eight two one WTV in
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  Speaker 1: or eight hundred six y ten WTV. And earlier I
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  Speaker 1: was talking to Mark and I kind of said, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, half heartedly, almost in a way serious, but
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  Speaker 1: not really. And the more I'm thinking about it, the
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  Speaker 1: more the more I'm thinking, maybe I kind of like
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  Speaker 1: the idea. And I'm talking about the children I'm staining
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  Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio from social media. In exchange
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  Speaker 1: for them not having social media accounts until they are
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  Speaker 1: no younger than eighteen years of age, the state would
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  Speaker 1: pick up their college tuition to a state university. We
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  Speaker 1: might get into that. Think of just mull it over.
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  Speaker 1: Mull it over. You don't get on the TikTok, the Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: the Facebook, the snapchat, any that stuff. Your whole teen years,
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  Speaker 1: you don't do it, and then you graduate from high
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  Speaker 1: school and you get the free ride of the state
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  Speaker 1: college because we're already acknowledging dangers. There's already been legislation
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  Speaker 1: here and around the country attempting to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: you cannot get onto a social media you have to
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  Speaker 1: have a kid's accounty, you have to parental permission or what.
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  Speaker 1: So we're acknowledging the negative impact of social media on
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  Speaker 1: our kids already. I don't think this is something that
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  Speaker 1: we should automatically dismiss. Now. The more I think about it,
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  Speaker 1: the more I think maybe it's worth a discussion. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to continue to mull it over, and I
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  Speaker 1: just want to put it in front of you as well.
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  Speaker 1: This story is all over the place today Attorney Donald
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  Speaker 1: Davios announcing a petition to abolish property taxes has been
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  Speaker 1: approved in the state of Ohio. No, I mean it's not.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a done deal yet, but the Attorney General's
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  Speaker 1: office has approved the petition title and for a proposed
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  Speaker 1: constitutional amendment titled Abolish Abolishment of Taxes on Real Property.
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  Speaker 1: The amendment seeks to add section fourteen to Article seven
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Article twelve of the Ohio Constitution received by
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  Speaker 1: the Attorney Geral's office made first a group from Kuyahogan
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  Speaker 1: County called the Ohio Citizens for Property Tax Reform and
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  Speaker 1: the Committee to Eliminate Property Taxes in Ohio. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to try to get them on the show because I
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  Speaker 1: want to talk to him because the first question, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why why they're attributing this to Dave
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  Speaker 1: Yost because I mean, honestly, all he's doing is his function.
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  Speaker 1: But the stories, the reporting on this all have his
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  Speaker 1: name as if he's got something to do with it,
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  Speaker 1: or he's behind it, or he's backing it or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: This is just his function in his capacity as Ohio
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  Speaker 1: Attorney General. Okay, and the Vivek Ramaswami endorsement from the
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  Speaker 1: Ohio GOP last week, I guess has them reaching for
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  Speaker 1: any story that they can. My first question, I think
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  Speaker 1: a relevant question, I think a necessary question and a
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  Speaker 1: question that must be answered before this goes before the
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  Speaker 1: voters of the state of Ohio. Do you know what
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  Speaker 1: it is? Act? Do you know where I'm going?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Where are you gonna make up the money?
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  Speaker 1: Where is the money going to come from? If you
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  Speaker 1: abolish real estate taxes, real property taxes in the state
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  Speaker 1: of Ohio, Where is that money going to come from.
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  Speaker 1: And if that question cannot be answered succinctly completely into
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  Speaker 1: the satisfaction of the voters, I hope personal greed does
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  Speaker 1: not have you making a stupid decision.
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  Speaker 3: They don't say what's gonna fund schools and fire police?
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  Speaker 1: They have there's no and we got it. We've got
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  Speaker 1: to have a game plan for that. Right. Just saying
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna abolish real estate taxes? No, And I'm completely
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  Speaker 1: against property taxes. I am. I think it's stupid that
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  Speaker 1: you work your tail off to be able to buy
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  Speaker 1: something a home, a business, building, whatever, and then you
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  Speaker 1: have to continue to pay the government each year simply
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  Speaker 1: for the right to own it. It's like buying a
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  Speaker 1: seat license before you can buy your season tickets. It's stupid.
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  Speaker 1: You should not have to do this. That being said,
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  Speaker 1: we also cannot pull the rug out from under all
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  Speaker 1: of the things that are funded through property taxes in
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  Speaker 1: the state of Ohio without a plan on replacing those funds.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want your license plates to cost seven hundred
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  Speaker 1: dollars a year? Do you want another twenty five cents
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  Speaker 1: a gallon state tax on gasoline? Do you want your
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  Speaker 1: professional license whether you're a you know, I pay a
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  Speaker 1: realtor license fee every year. Up, people who are paying
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  Speaker 1: you know, lawyers or doctors or whatever, professional licenses in
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  Speaker 1: the state of Do you want those feeds to triple, quadruple?
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  Speaker 1: What are you willing to pay? And see? Once again,
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  Speaker 1: here's the situation. This is gonna sound so snobbish. Whenever
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  Speaker 1: government starts screwing with money, the people who openly, willingly,
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  Speaker 1: faithfully support those attempts are usually those that have no
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  Speaker 1: skin in the game. If you don't have a car,
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  Speaker 1: you don't pay for license plates, if you don't buy gasoline,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't have a professional license, if you're living
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  Speaker 1: off of you know, a disability check or something like that,
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  Speaker 1: that's not affected by any of this. Sure, if you're
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  Speaker 1: old or broke, sure I'll say I'll vote yes on that.
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  Speaker 1: But for those people that are out here making a
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  Speaker 1: living trying to be barbers or doctors or nurses or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: having them pay more for their state licenses every year,
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  Speaker 1: while it may not affect you directly, it affects your
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  Speaker 1: your Ohio family, if you will, I.
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  Speaker 3: Just to emphasize why if Florida the property tax is done,
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  Speaker 3: but they're to register a car the first time is
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  Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty five dollars. Yeah, if you want
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  Speaker 3: to reregister, it's almost four hundred. Your plates cost one hundred.
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  Speaker 3: So they make up that money somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: It has to It has to be made up. There's
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  Speaker 1: no way you can say, all right, we're just not
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  Speaker 1: going to text that anymore and not make it up
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  Speaker 1: some way. Government cannot come to a stop. And I absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: again I want to be clear about this. I absolutely
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  Speaker 1: believe that property taxes are punitive and just and unnecessary.
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely believe that property taxes shouldn't not be the
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  Speaker 1: primary source of funding for our school systems. But it
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  Speaker 1: is what it is at this moment. And you cannot
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  Speaker 1: pull that car, that blanket out, that that rugout from
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  Speaker 1: under everybody without some way of replacing those funds. And
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  Speaker 1: I hope I'm making sense. I'd love to hear your thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, A two one nine eight eight six
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  Speaker 1: A two one WTV, And you're welcome to tell me
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  Speaker 1: if you think I'm wrong, that's fine. I don't I
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  Speaker 1: don't mind that debate, discussion, disagreement with respect, that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: But somebody is going to have to lay out for
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  Speaker 1: me to my satisfaction as a voter. How this money
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  Speaker 1: is going to be replaced? This story on the the
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  Speaker 1: it was a WSYX. I can I can't even remember
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  Speaker 1: where I got this story, wherever I got it? If certified,
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  Speaker 1: petitioners must gather signatures from registered voters equal to at
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  Speaker 1: least ten percent of the votes that were cast in
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  Speaker 1: the most recent gubernatorial election, which shouldn't be hard because
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  Speaker 1: we didn't have a massive turnout. Signatures must be collected
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  Speaker 1: from at least forty four of Ohio's eighty eight counties,
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  Speaker 1: with each county contributing signatures equal to at least five
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  Speaker 1: percent of the votes that were cast in the last
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  Speaker 1: gubernatorial election. Should the Ohio Secretary of State's office verify
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  Speaker 1: sufficient signatures at least sixty five days before the election,
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  Speaker 1: the full text of the proposed amendment will appear on
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  Speaker 1: the ballot in the next regular or general election occurring
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  Speaker 1: more than one hundred and twenty five days after the petition. Finally, again,
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  Speaker 1: the full text will appear on the ballot before people
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  Speaker 1: are asked to sign a petition like this. I think
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  Speaker 1: the full text ought to be worked out. We ought
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  Speaker 1: to know exactly what we're getting ourselves into or maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's just me A two one nine eight eight six
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  Speaker 1: phone lines are open to you and mark you're on
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  Speaker 1: substendable ETV at Hi.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, thank you well. The key issue for me is, well,
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  Speaker 4: my parents are both older and they own their house.
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  Speaker 4: I don't feel that if you own your home when
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  Speaker 4: you're retired, you have a sixth income, that you should
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  Speaker 4: well you could potentially lose your home because you can't
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  Speaker 4: cover the cost of the property taxes. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: that's right that someone can own a home outright and
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  Speaker 4: pay on the mortgage for decades and then like all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden, their property taxes just skyrocket. And I
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  Speaker 4: got friends even whose parents might lose their house is
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  Speaker 4: because of property taxes. I mean, like, there's gotta be
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  Speaker 4: like a happy median here, because I just feel like
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  Speaker 4: it's just such a I don't know, it seems criminal
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  Speaker 4: that like people who paid off their home or retired
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  Speaker 4: and a sixth income and they're losing their homes because
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  Speaker 4: of property taxes. To me, that's not right and something's
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  Speaker 4: got to be done about that, at least, I mean
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  Speaker 4: when or not have abolish and property taxes altogether. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not sure, but like, you shouldn't lose your home if
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  Speaker 4: it's paid off and you're retired on a fixed income
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  Speaker 4: because of property taxes. I mean, that's the moral to me.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's another that's another catch twenty two situation
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  Speaker 1: mark because parents, you know, older folks generally have nicer,
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  Speaker 1: more expensive homes. The taxes on those nicer and more
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  Speaker 1: expensive homes are going to be higher. If you start
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  Speaker 1: eliminating those from the mix, just taking them out of
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  Speaker 1: the mix completely, then the taxes on the cheaper homes,
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  Speaker 1: less expensive homes, lower end homes, whatever you want to
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  Speaker 1: call it, those are going to have to go up
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  Speaker 1: in order to relieve. And it's not that I disagree
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  Speaker 1: with you. I'm just saying again, we need to know
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  Speaker 1: the path that's ahead of us. If you're living in
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  Speaker 1: a four hundred and fifty thousand to six hundred thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars home, you're retired, you've paid it off, that's great.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're not going to be paying taxes on
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  Speaker 1: that property because you're over sixty five and retired, and
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  Speaker 1: the guy in the one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: House is going to have to be paying more. That's
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  Speaker 1: the only way it works.
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  Speaker 4: Well, put the feorary out a solution here, because this
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  Speaker 4: is just a big issue for me and I hope
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  Speaker 4: that this passes. I mean, there's gotta be other ways
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  Speaker 4: that education can be funded. To mean, I don't think
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  Speaker 4: it's constitutional how we fund education in Ohio anyway.
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  Speaker 1: It is not. It does the Ohio Supreme Court. It's
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  Speaker 1: been twenty years since the Ohio Supreme Court that told
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  Speaker 1: the legislature you need to find a new way, and
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  Speaker 1: it has yet to be done.
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  Speaker 4: That's that. Well, thank you for your talking.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Mark, thanks for the call. Eight two
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  Speaker 1: one nine eight eighty six. John, you're on sixten Doable ETVN.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Chuck, would you quit making so much sense?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's it's just it's an old family tradition, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to make sure because you're absolutely right
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  Speaker 2: on everything you've said today, and people need to listen
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  Speaker 2: very closely to what you're saying. Uh, captes are dumb.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I agree with you one hundred percent. Keep
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  Speaker 2: the kids until they're eighteen, away from all the social media,
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  Speaker 2: I chuck, you're making too much sense.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, John, I appreciate it. The support is
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  Speaker 1: always welcome. Man. I try to make sense, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's outrageous. People who listen to that think
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  Speaker 1: about social media and think I'm crazy, I'm tyrannical. Whatever. Look,
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  Speaker 1: you can't tell me, Oh well you can't. We can't
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  Speaker 1: be given away touch free tuition to the state universities.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, the universities. Even the state universities have hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of millions, if not billions of dollars in endowments already
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  Speaker 1: there they're taking money left and right. You come here
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  Speaker 1: from Somalia, We'll throw everything at you for free. You
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  Speaker 1: come here from South to the board, We'll throw everything
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  Speaker 1: at you for free. Why the hell shitn't American citizens,
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  Speaker 1: American students get scholarships to state universities for staying away
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  Speaker 1: from something that we are generally coming to recognize is
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  Speaker 1: poise into their minds. I seriously, I've got to keep
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  Speaker 1: thinking about this, because I don't think I'm off target.