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- 0:10Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to the show, friends and neighbors, thanks for
- 0:26Speaker 1: dropping by. Join us on a journey. We are based
- 0:30Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia, here in the United States, but today
- 0:34Speaker 1: our adventures take us to the northwestern Pacific Ocean, to
- 0:39Speaker 1: a place that was formerly known as the territory of Guam. Hi.
- 0:44Speaker 1: I'm Ben, Hi, my name is not. So we're going
- 0:46Speaker 1: on a bit of a tropical vacae today. We are.
- 0:49Speaker 1: We are and I have wanted to travel to this
- 0:53Speaker 1: area of the Pacific Ocean for such a very very
- 0:56Speaker 1: long time. Our longtime friend of the show and co worker,
- 1:02Speaker 1: Scott Benjamin is actually a very well traveled man. He's
- 1:06Speaker 1: get this noal. He's been to Bora, Bora, I know, man,
- 1:09Speaker 1: I I didn't even think. I thought that was like
- 1:11Speaker 1: an imaginary land. And and and then then you can come
- 1:14Speaker 1: to find out. Scott Benjamin or is I like to
- 1:15Speaker 1: call him f Scott Benjamin has been there. Yes, yes,
- 1:19Speaker 1: Scott Benjamin. So today we're going a true tale that
- 1:24Speaker 1: still feels as surreal as a story by Kurt Vonnegut
- 1:28Speaker 1: or something he does. That's a really good connection, Ben,
- 1:31Speaker 1: because it's got all of the pathos and set up
- 1:34Speaker 1: for a grand you know, battle of epic proportions, a
- 1:39Speaker 1: naval battle, you know, at sea with cannons and all
- 1:42Speaker 1: that good stuff that goes along with it. But there's
- 1:44Speaker 1: a twist and and and then the twist is sort
- 1:47Speaker 1: of a very Vonneguchian Vonna Good esque. Yeah, and that
- 1:53Speaker 1: you know, not much happens. I don't think that's fair.
- 1:56Speaker 1: And I don't mean to pin like to say nothing
- 1:58Speaker 1: happens in Vonnegut books. I justan it subverts your expectations
- 2:03Speaker 1: a little bit. Let's say that. Yeah, it feels in
- 2:05Speaker 1: a very relieving way, somewhat anti climactic. And we're of
- 2:10Speaker 1: course not going on this journey alone, folks. We're bringing along,
- 2:14Speaker 1: in our opinion, one of the best parts of this show,
- 2:17Speaker 1: Super producer Casey Pegram. May he be our spirit guide
- 2:22Speaker 1: on this journey today, Yes, and hopefully our navigator as well,
- 2:26Speaker 1: because I don't remember if we packed the GPS, I
- 2:28Speaker 1: am garbage with directions. As you know, well, we we
- 2:33Speaker 1: already know where we're going and let's travel there through
- 2:35Speaker 1: the magic of podcasting. But first we have to get
- 2:40Speaker 1: to Guam by way of Cuba, because to paint the scene,
- 2:44Speaker 1: we need to talk about something called the Spanish American War.
- 2:48Speaker 1: The Spanish American War declared on April twenty five of eighteen.
- 2:54Speaker 1: You see, the US was doing a lot of business
- 2:58Speaker 1: with Cuba, and Cuba wanted to become independent from Spain,
- 3:04Speaker 1: which was controlling it at the time. It's very true,
- 3:07Speaker 1: and there were rebels, there was an uprising in Cuba
- 3:11Speaker 1: um and they wanted to separate themselves from Spanish rule.
- 3:16Speaker 1: And the US had some pretty significant interests in helping
- 3:20Speaker 1: them accomplish this because they were doing trade upwards of
- 3:25Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars a year with Cuba. One of
- 3:28Speaker 1: those goods, the primary good in this equation being sugar,
- 3:32Speaker 1: and that's in terms, so it's a huge amount of money.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Shall we inflation calculator and my friend, yes, this is
- 3:42Speaker 1: an appropriate enough amount of money that we may want
- 3:45Speaker 1: a drum roll casey one million dollars in eighteen nine
- 3:49Speaker 1: five is equivalent to two point seven five billion dollars
- 3:58Speaker 1: in as it's like an economy of scale, it's massive.
- 4:04Speaker 1: There's really no there's really no way someone in the
- 4:08Speaker 1: US could argue against protecting this valuable trade. And the
- 4:14Speaker 1: US public was behind this as well. They were supporting
- 4:17Speaker 1: American intervention because people were checking out the newspapers of
- 4:23Speaker 1: note at the time, the yellow papers, right of the
- 4:27Speaker 1: like the William Randolph Hurst era of the Yellow journalism,
- 4:30Speaker 1: where it was kind of this, uh alarmist or let
- 4:33Speaker 1: maybe not alarmist, but more um sensationalized coverage, right, yeah,
- 4:37Speaker 1: absolutely sensationalized by muck rakers, by people with a strategic
- 4:42Speaker 1: acts to grind. Spain was taking incredibly brutal measures to
- 4:47Speaker 1: repress the rebellion, and the U. S public learned about
- 4:52Speaker 1: this through graphic depictions in these newspapers, and this caused
- 4:56Speaker 1: American sympathy for the Cuban rebels to rise. As we know,
- 5:00Speaker 1: the best way to get a war going is not
- 5:02Speaker 1: to say it's in our economic interest. It's to say
- 5:05Speaker 1: we are doing a noble thing, humanitarian reasons. Have you
- 5:09Speaker 1: heard of this guy, General Wiler the butcher. Lay it
- 5:12Speaker 1: on me, this is nuts. I did not know this
- 5:14Speaker 1: was a thing. But this gentleman was sent to deal
- 5:17Speaker 1: with by by Spain, to deal with the Cuban rebels,
- 5:20Speaker 1: and he actually rounded them up and put them in
- 5:23Speaker 1: concentration camps. Um. They weren't, you know, gassed like the
- 5:27Speaker 1: Jews were during the Nazi regime, but they were left
- 5:31Speaker 1: in horribly unsanitary conditions to starve and just wither away.
- 5:36Speaker 1: And so you know that was happening, and this was
- 5:38Speaker 1: being reported, and so there was strong sentiment for the
- 5:42Speaker 1: humanitarian aid angle there. And tensions are rising, intentions are escalating.
- 5:48Speaker 1: At this point, let's say around the early part of
- 5:52Speaker 1: the year. Right, the American public is largely behind or
- 5:57Speaker 1: supportive of an intervention, but there are people still on
- 6:01Speaker 1: the fence, and that all changes in less than a
- 6:05Speaker 1: few days. Yeah. In fact, with the permission of the
- 6:09Speaker 1: Spanish government, UM President McKinley ordered a battleship, the U. S.
- 6:14Speaker 1: S Main, to hang out in the Havana Harbor to
- 6:18Speaker 1: kind of safeguard American interest during this time of upheaval
- 6:22Speaker 1: in Cuba. And on February in the evening, an explosion
- 6:28Speaker 1: sank that ship, killing two sailors and two officers. And
- 6:34Speaker 1: this was a problem. This was bad what they call
- 6:37Speaker 1: bad optics, ben right, So the means destruction did not
- 6:42Speaker 1: immediately launch a war with Spain, but it uh pretty
- 6:48Speaker 1: much guaranteed that there would not be an easy, peaceful
- 6:52Speaker 1: resolution to this conflict. It's like a Pearl Harbor kind
- 6:55Speaker 1: of moment, you know. I mean, it's not it's not
- 6:57Speaker 1: quite as extreme, obviously because there was no direct proof,
- 7:00Speaker 1: but it is that powder keg moment where the public
- 7:03Speaker 1: really sees, oh, there's a threat here. They got our
- 7:05Speaker 1: guys right, and that those yellow journalists we talked about
- 7:09Speaker 1: really pushed that line, didn't They like saying, oh, they
- 7:12Speaker 1: blamed Spain, even though there wasn't any proof that was
- 7:14Speaker 1: actually what happened. But it seems likely that that's what happened.
- 7:18Speaker 1: It was one of the biggest political, if not the
- 7:20Speaker 1: biggest political issues of that year. Let's fast forward a
- 7:24Speaker 1: couple of months. Spain realizes that the water is slowly boiling,
- 7:29Speaker 1: the flames arising, and they attempt to quell things. They
- 7:33Speaker 1: announced an armistice on April nine of that year, and
- 7:36Speaker 1: they speed up a program to grant Cuba limited autonomy,
- 7:40Speaker 1: limited powers of government. So this would mean that Cuba
- 7:43Speaker 1: is still a part of the larger Spanish Empire, but
- 7:46Speaker 1: they have some latitude agency with local decisions. And I'd
- 7:50Speaker 1: read in a few places that there was a sentiment
- 7:53Speaker 1: that they weren't really that serious about doing those things
- 7:56Speaker 1: that they said. It was all sort of for show.
- 7:59Speaker 1: It's either dis genuine or it's too little, too late,
- 8:02Speaker 1: because very shortly afterwards, the US Congress issued resolutions declaring
- 8:10Speaker 1: Cuba's right to full independence, demanding the withdrawal of all
- 8:13Speaker 1: of Spain's armed forces, and authorizing then President William McKinley
- 8:18Speaker 1: to use force to secure the withdrawal of the Spanish
- 8:22Speaker 1: forces and at the same time to make sure that
- 8:25Speaker 1: everyone knows they're the good guys. I guess in this situation,
- 8:30Speaker 1: the US also says, we're not going to an x Cuba.
- 8:34Speaker 1: We want it to be its own thing. We're sticking
- 8:36Speaker 1: up for you. And you know they gave the British
- 8:39Speaker 1: two finger salute to Spain. This is Congress doing this right, Yeah,
- 8:43Speaker 1: and I think the President had requested sort of a
- 8:45Speaker 1: lighter version of that, and then Congress sort of doubled
- 8:48Speaker 1: down and said, nah, we're gonna really go you know,
- 8:51Speaker 1: ham on this. Yeah, they went hard on the paint
- 8:53Speaker 1: for sure, and Spain, in a game of geopolitical double dare,
- 8:59Speaker 1: said oh, you know what, you're gonna dare us to
- 9:01Speaker 1: get out? Well, double dare, We're declaring war on the
- 9:04Speaker 1: US on April and on the next day the US said,
- 9:09Speaker 1: oh yeah, well you too, buddy. You can't declare war
- 9:12Speaker 1: on us. We're declaring war on you. It's super confusing
- 9:15Speaker 1: because the way it's written, um, the way I've seen
- 9:18Speaker 1: the chronology of this is that they had to retroactively
- 9:22Speaker 1: backdated to April one, which I believe was when the
- 9:26Speaker 1: US established a military blockade of Cuba to protect their
- 9:32Speaker 1: interests more or less again, and that's not like the
- 9:34Speaker 1: official reason. Again, They're going with this humanitarian thing. Oh
- 9:38Speaker 1: the poor Cuban people, you know, the Spanish or just
- 9:41Speaker 1: mistreating them so badly, you know, because America, you know,
- 9:44Speaker 1: we're all about taking care of people, right, and that's
- 9:46Speaker 1: what we do. And maybe we, uh, maybe we, or
- 9:50Speaker 1: at least the the American leaders at the time, maybe
- 9:53Speaker 1: they really did believe that they were doing a noble,
- 9:56Speaker 1: altruistic thing. I know, I'm I'm being flipped, but it's
- 9:59Speaker 1: just it's hard to it's hard, man, it's hard to
- 10:02Speaker 1: have that kind of faith in the goodness of our leaders.
- 10:05Speaker 1: It would be somewhat anomalous and it was not going
- 10:10Speaker 1: to be a fair fight because Spain was not prepared
- 10:14Speaker 1: in naval or military terms to have a war in
- 10:18Speaker 1: a foreign part of the planet with the US who
- 10:21Speaker 1: is not you know, uh, nothing to sneeze at militarily,
- 10:25Speaker 1: even back then. And I mean we're talking Spain in general,
- 10:28Speaker 1: not to mention our little whipper snapper buddies they're in Guam. Yes,
- 10:34Speaker 1: So we've set this stage and the Spanish American War
- 10:37Speaker 1: quickly expands beyond the bounds of Cuba and the surrounding waters.
- 10:41Speaker 1: One of the huge theaters for the Spanish American War
- 10:45Speaker 1: was going to be the Pacific Ocean, specifically the Philippines.
- 10:50Speaker 1: The Philippines at the time were under Spanish control and
- 10:53Speaker 1: habit for hundreds of years. The US again was going
- 10:58Speaker 1: to clean up this this massive injustice for everyone who
- 11:02Speaker 1: can't see you can't see us in the studios. I
- 11:05Speaker 1: just did a heart arm shake kind of awe shucks,
- 11:09Speaker 1: you know, hey, like you might have done an opery
- 11:12Speaker 1: land when you were a boy. Oh man, you're never
- 11:14Speaker 1: gonna let me live that. But uh, speaking of delights,
- 11:22Speaker 1: when we consider the Pacific theater at the time, or
- 11:26Speaker 1: just when considered the geography of the Pacific, we have
- 11:29Speaker 1: to realize these folks did not have very fast means
- 11:33Speaker 1: of communication and a lot of these islands and archipelagos
- 11:36Speaker 1: were so isolated that they could learn about events in
- 11:41Speaker 1: the rest of the world months after, maybe even more
- 11:45Speaker 1: than a year. And so this is when, uh, we
- 11:50Speaker 1: this is when we come to a captain, captain named Glass,
- 11:55Speaker 1: Captain Glass, which is a cool name, very cool name.
- 11:58Speaker 1: And uh and no, what is what is Captain Glass
- 12:01Speaker 1: doing on his way to the Philippines. Well, Captain Glass
- 12:05Speaker 1: actually received sealed orders, um and and they went a
- 12:10Speaker 1: little bit like this, in fact, exactly like this, dear sir.
- 12:14Speaker 1: Actually they didn't say dear. They wouldn't have been that
- 12:16Speaker 1: polite in the military, just says sir, changes the whole tone. Didn't.
- 12:20Speaker 1: Upon receipt of this order, which is forwarded by the
- 12:22Speaker 1: steamship City of Peking, which was the name of the ship,
- 12:26Speaker 1: to you at Honolulu a place, you will proceed with
- 12:29Speaker 1: the Charleston and the City of Peking in company to Manila,
- 12:33Speaker 1: Philippine Islands on your way. And here's the important part.
- 12:37Speaker 1: You are hereby directed to stop at the Spanish island
- 12:40Speaker 1: of Guam. You will use such force as may be
- 12:43Speaker 1: necessary to capture the port of Guam, making prisoners of
- 12:46Speaker 1: the governor and other officials and any armed force that
- 12:49Speaker 1: maybe there. You will destroy any fortification onset island and
- 12:53Speaker 1: any Spanish naval vessels that may be there or in
- 12:56Speaker 1: the immediate vicinity um And then it goes on to say,
- 12:59Speaker 1: this will probably only take you two days because they
- 13:01Speaker 1: definitely didn't know where we're coming. Yes, yeah, that's we
- 13:05Speaker 1: cannot emphasize that enough, but we will attempt to through repetition.
- 13:10Speaker 1: They were definitely not prepared on the island i Guam
- 13:13Speaker 1: the Spanish governing structure. So Guam had their first contact
- 13:16Speaker 1: with the Spanish Empire when a fellow named Ferdinand Magellan,
- 13:20Speaker 1: the famous Portuguese explorer, landed uh there on March sixth
- 13:25Speaker 1: fifty one. And in the intervening centuries, Spain also controlled
- 13:32Speaker 1: Guam as well as you know, as well as the Philippines.
- 13:35Speaker 1: But Guam was on the edge of the Empire. For
- 13:40Speaker 1: lack of a better phrase, it wasn't and it still
- 13:42Speaker 1: is not a very large place geographically speaking, and it
- 13:47Speaker 1: also wasn't at the heart of a lot of conflict
- 13:51Speaker 1: or a ton of trade exactly. In fact of the time,
- 13:55Speaker 1: the Guam infantry consisted of only fifty five soldiers and
- 14:00Speaker 1: two that's two lieutenants. So Glass has these orders to
- 14:05Speaker 1: capture Guam. He is assured that it is going to
- 14:08Speaker 1: be super easy because they're so unprepared. Oh yeah, I
- 14:12Speaker 1: mean they the way, the matter of fact nature of
- 14:15Speaker 1: that order, the way it's written, it's just like this
- 14:18Speaker 1: is gonna be cake. It's it's on the same level
- 14:22Speaker 1: totally as hey, will you pick up some milk on
- 14:25Speaker 1: your way? And so the Charleston enters a Gana Bay
- 14:31Speaker 1: on the twentie of June, and they were prepared for
- 14:38Speaker 1: a cannonade from Fort Santiago, the Spanish fourth there. And
- 14:42Speaker 1: so Captain Glass got further into the harbor and he
- 14:46Speaker 1: began bombarding Fort Santa Cruz, but received no response because
- 14:52Speaker 1: you see, folks, the fort had long been abandoned. No
- 14:57Speaker 1: one cared, no one, no one knew, no one was
- 15:00Speaker 1: looking except people were looking. And this is where I
- 15:03Speaker 1: kind of want to shift the perspective here too. I
- 15:05Speaker 1: think our mutual favorite character in this story a guy
- 15:08Speaker 1: by the name of Francisco Porta sash or you could,
- 15:13Speaker 1: you could call him Frank if you want to be
- 15:14Speaker 1: familiar exactly. He has uh we have an original source
- 15:20Speaker 1: from a letter that he writes, recounting his experience. He
- 15:26Speaker 1: was a naturalist citizen in the US and on the
- 15:29Speaker 1: morning of the twenty two of June in his brother
- 15:32Speaker 1: Don Jose woke him up and said, you gotta come
- 15:36Speaker 1: see this. You gotta come check this out. And just
- 15:38Speaker 1: a little backstory, I'm like, why was this guy on Guam?
- 15:41Speaker 1: What was he doing? It looks like he had had
- 15:43Speaker 1: a career as kind of like as a whaler. He
- 15:46Speaker 1: seemed like a real man about town, had done some
- 15:48Speaker 1: interesting stuff and like I just wanted to see the world.
- 15:51Speaker 1: But he was from Chicago. Yeah, he uh, he was
- 15:55Speaker 1: a US citizen. He did have whaling background and Guam
- 16:00Speaker 1: he was pretty influential because he ran a general store,
- 16:04Speaker 1: a general store, and he was apparently the only American
- 16:09Speaker 1: on the island, which probably earned him some some street cred.
- 16:12Speaker 1: I guess. He seems like he was beloved and had
- 16:15Speaker 1: support from the community. He wasn't like some kind of outcasts.
- 16:24Speaker 1: So in his letter, the way he recounts it, he
- 16:30Speaker 1: had maybe heard of something about a conflict between Spain
- 16:36Speaker 1: and the US. In fact is his brother is the
- 16:38Speaker 1: one who hipped him to it. But his brother was
- 16:40Speaker 1: a little wishy washy about it too. His brother also,
- 16:43Speaker 1: by the way, it was just visiting from Europe. He
- 16:45Speaker 1: had come there by way of the Philippines and was
- 16:47Speaker 1: just hanging out. So I think it's probably pretty accurate
- 16:50Speaker 1: when you see um, this guy Francisco being described as
- 16:53Speaker 1: the only American naturalized American citizen on the island who
- 16:56Speaker 1: lived there. So his brother says, come to the beach
- 16:59Speaker 1: and see the ships there and where they come from.
- 17:02Speaker 1: And Frank, as I'm gonna call him, started with him.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Around daylight. They went to uh they went to the
- 17:09Speaker 1: shore close enough to look through a pair of glasses
- 17:12Speaker 1: which probably binoculars, and he recognized two of the steamships,
- 17:17Speaker 1: China and Australia, and he wasn't sure what the other
- 17:22Speaker 1: one was. But at this point his brother said, he said,
- 17:25Speaker 1: do not say anything, as I think war is declared
- 17:28Speaker 1: between the United States and Spain. If so, I will
- 17:30Speaker 1: go on board and take with me the Spanish officers
- 17:33Speaker 1: and one of your boats, and you can go on
- 17:35Speaker 1: your whale boat afterwards. That's another thing that's important about
- 17:38Speaker 1: the story. Frank. You see had like a like a
- 17:40Speaker 1: many fleet of ships, and they call them lighters, which
- 17:43Speaker 1: were these specialized boats that you would use to transport
- 17:46Speaker 1: goods um to bigger ships, right that couldn't get close
- 17:50Speaker 1: enough to shore, maybe didn't have a port they could
- 17:52Speaker 1: pull in. Yes, So how do you think the brother
- 17:54Speaker 1: knew the war? Thing? Though? It seems like they were
- 17:56Speaker 1: not hip to this on that was he just kind
- 17:58Speaker 1: of conjecturing because he had traveled from he didn't think
- 18:01Speaker 1: to mention this earlier. You know, it's a laid back,
- 18:06Speaker 1: laid back guy they're painting here. But as they arrive,
- 18:10Speaker 1: they see the Charleston begin to shell this fort, as
- 18:13Speaker 1: we had mentioned, and there's no response because as Frank
- 18:18Speaker 1: and everybody else on the island knows, that Ford has
- 18:20Speaker 1: been abandoned for years, and they believe the ship the
- 18:26Speaker 1: Man of War is saluting the fort of Santa Cruz,
- 18:31Speaker 1: and so on the island side they say, okay, well,
- 18:35Speaker 1: let's get somebody together, let's get the artillery together, and
- 18:38Speaker 1: we'll send a salute too. And this this sounds weird
- 18:41Speaker 1: for a lot of people. The idea of a salute,
- 18:43Speaker 1: What is that? Why are you are you just firing
- 18:46Speaker 1: a gun to say hello to people? I mean, there's
- 18:49Speaker 1: the whole twenty one gun so it always strikes me
- 18:51Speaker 1: as queer. I mean, anytime people shoot guns in a
- 18:54Speaker 1: celebratory manner, that always is a little strange to me. Right,
- 18:58Speaker 1: So we can give you a little bit of background
- 19:01Speaker 1: on what a salute actually is and why it exists.
- 19:06Speaker 1: This comes to us through the official blog of the U. S.
- 19:09Speaker 1: Navy named Navy Live, and Tim Comerford is writing about
- 19:15Speaker 1: the history of the salute in salutations with a Bang,
- 19:19Speaker 1: the military Salute. The idea here, according to him, is
- 19:24Speaker 1: that the the origins of this practice run clear, but
- 19:28Speaker 1: we have some good estimates about this, and they date
- 19:31Speaker 1: back to some ancient warfare. It's intended to show deference
- 19:35Speaker 1: on the part of the person saluting to the person
- 19:38Speaker 1: being saluted. And it's also supposed to indicate that the
- 19:43Speaker 1: person or the people who are saluting are unarmed or
- 19:48Speaker 1: somehow defenseless, because in the old days of raising your
- 19:51Speaker 1: hands to salute, you were showing that you didn't have
- 19:54Speaker 1: a sword, didn't have like a they're saluting with live ammunition,
- 19:59Speaker 1: they hand. Yeah, how does this? How does this work?
- 20:01Speaker 1: Great question? The cannons, once you fire them in a salute,
- 20:05Speaker 1: they take a while to reload, and so the idea
- 20:08Speaker 1: is in a salute, the idea is they're shooting not
- 20:11Speaker 1: to not to hit anyone, but to say like okay, boom,
- 20:15Speaker 1: there you go. Now you know we're not carrying loaded cannons.
- 20:18Speaker 1: But this was clearly a mistake on the Islanders side
- 20:23Speaker 1: because they were trying to shell the fort I mean
- 20:26Speaker 1: that would have interpreted it as a piss poor salute.
- 20:29Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, you're supposed to like aim away
- 20:32Speaker 1: from us or up in the air something, But no,
- 20:34Speaker 1: they were definitely trying to shell that fort Um. But
- 20:38Speaker 1: that misunderstanding did happen, and so uh, a sort of
- 20:42Speaker 1: onovoy was gathered to row out to the ship the
- 20:48Speaker 1: man O War yeah, this floating murder machine and say hello. Yeah,
- 20:57Speaker 1: I almost I kept picturing, you know, the scenes where
- 20:59Speaker 1: they send a landing party and star Trek or something.
- 21:02Speaker 1: So Frank arrives, he gets on the ship, and uh
- 21:07Speaker 1: they find out that he is an American citizen and
- 21:12Speaker 1: how's he ended up going along? Like he he's already
- 21:14Speaker 1: there watching and he has like because I know there
- 21:16Speaker 1: was some actual officials that went as well, because there
- 21:19Speaker 1: was the commander of the Guam Navy, who is a
- 21:23Speaker 1: guy named Don Pedro Duerte, and he is the one
- 21:26Speaker 1: who said, oh, they're saluting us, we should go to
- 21:30Speaker 1: dang it, we don't have we're all we're fresh out
- 21:32Speaker 1: of gunpowder, so we better go. You know, be polite. Everybody,
- 21:36Speaker 1: get your own guns if you have them, and we'll
- 21:38Speaker 1: try to organize this. Yeah, they were. They were trying
- 21:42Speaker 1: to be cool. They thought they were showing customary um
- 21:46Speaker 1: deference or the rules of engagement. And to paint the
- 21:50Speaker 1: picture here, imagine a really small town where not a
- 21:54Speaker 1: lot of big stuff happens. Everybody in town is who
- 21:59Speaker 1: has heard about this is coming out to check out
- 22:01Speaker 1: the scene. They want to see what happens. So this
- 22:03Speaker 1: is not like a situation where there would be a
- 22:06Speaker 1: group of battle hardened veterans preparing to die. This is
- 22:11Speaker 1: someone saying like, ah, hey, Tim, did you hear there's
- 22:15Speaker 1: a big ships out there, and the other guy going
- 22:17Speaker 1: oh no way, Like yeah, they said we gotta um
- 22:20Speaker 1: bring our guns to salute him, and he's like, oh yeah, alright.
- 22:23Speaker 1: I gotta say, though, this brother, this Don Jose, seems
- 22:27Speaker 1: like a real piece of work. I mean, he is,
- 22:30Speaker 1: you know, hasn't included anyone into the fact that there
- 22:33Speaker 1: maybe war going on. I think he's trying to play
- 22:36Speaker 1: it like he's trying to, you know, save his own butt,
- 22:40Speaker 1: because he is the one who assembles this group of officials,
- 22:43Speaker 1: military officials, which so the party that went out there
- 22:46Speaker 1: to meet the boat were Frank, his brother, Lieutenant commander
- 22:51Speaker 1: of the Navy and captain of the port, Don Francisco Guccierrez,
- 22:55Speaker 1: a naval surgeon, Don Jose Romero, Captain Pedro du To
- 23:00Speaker 1: day uh and Ukar who was part of the Marine Corps,
- 23:03Speaker 1: and also Don Jose six To, who was the civil paymaster. Um.
- 23:08Speaker 1: And they all are kind of roped into doing this
- 23:10Speaker 1: by the brother who still doesn't clue them into the
- 23:14Speaker 1: fact that this could be a problem. Well, he told
- 23:17Speaker 1: his brother. He was like, Frank, be cool, but I
- 23:20Speaker 1: think there's a war going on. So what does strike
- 23:23Speaker 1: me as he's looking out for him and his brother's
- 23:25Speaker 1: best interests and not the native people, true of the land,
- 23:28Speaker 1: true important point. Here's where it becomes, for a moment
- 23:31Speaker 1: as casual as a sitcom. So Frank and the rest
- 23:35Speaker 1: of the party are there and then they get on
- 23:38Speaker 1: board to Charleston and he's sell you know, across the
- 23:41Speaker 1: bow in his own boat, and then he hears someone
- 23:44Speaker 1: yell at him, Frank, come on board, hey buddy. Yeah,
- 23:50Speaker 1: And he looks up and it's a guy named Captain
- 23:53Speaker 1: Hellett who he knew a number of years before as
- 23:56Speaker 1: a whaling captain whaling days. And he's actually on whaling
- 24:00Speaker 1: ship that was the one that he was flying the
- 24:01Speaker 1: flag with. Yeah, and so he gets on board and
- 24:07Speaker 1: he recognizes somebody else. He sees a guy who used
- 24:10Speaker 1: to be a reporter for the Chronicle in San Francisco.
- 24:13Speaker 1: And the guy walks up and he shakes his hands
- 24:15Speaker 1: and he's like, man, I'm glad to see you here
- 24:17Speaker 1: in Guam. And then someone comes up and says, why
- 24:20Speaker 1: are you flying that American flag? Dude? Frank clearly got around. Man,
- 24:24Speaker 1: what are the chances? This is very strange? Yeah, this
- 24:27Speaker 1: is really weird. Yeah. So this this tough customer walks
- 24:31Speaker 1: up in his officer's dress, military dress and says, what
- 24:35Speaker 1: right have you to fly this American flag from thou ship?
- 24:42Speaker 1: Thy ship? So that's how they spoke. Any like grins
- 24:45Speaker 1: Frank grins and you know, shrugs a little and yeah,
- 24:49Speaker 1: and says, well, I guess I have the right to
- 24:51Speaker 1: have that flag up for if I did not have
- 24:53Speaker 1: the right, I would not have it there. Oh snack, whoa, Okay,
- 24:59Speaker 1: you be in smart with me boy, right, it's pretty
- 25:01Speaker 1: much he say, I do what I want. And the
- 25:03Speaker 1: guy says, can you prove your right? Yeah, he sounds
- 25:06Speaker 1: like a character from like Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, right,
- 25:09Speaker 1: And he says, yes, sir, and he pulls out his
- 25:11Speaker 1: naturalization papers as a citizen of the US, and the
- 25:16Speaker 1: guy looks him over and his tone completely changes. Yeah.
- 25:19Speaker 1: At that point, they're they're just buzzom buddies. He says, Okay, Chicago,
- 25:23Speaker 1: you're from Chicago, Illinois. Um, United States, twenty two of October.
- 25:30Speaker 1: This is birthday, Cook County, State of Illinois, is what
- 25:32Speaker 1: he says. Um. And at that point he says, follow me, chum. Yeah,
- 25:36Speaker 1: let's go meet the captain. And so they go to
- 25:40Speaker 1: meet the captain, who is thrilled to meet Franks Captain
- 25:43Speaker 1: Glass and the officer hands Glass Frank's papers and then
- 25:48Speaker 1: Glass looks him over and says, I'm glad to meet you.
- 25:51Speaker 1: And then he says, look, your brother Joe told me
- 25:55Speaker 1: that you had some lighters and some boats and could
- 25:59Speaker 1: you let me have some of those just to get
- 26:02Speaker 1: some coal on the steamer. I'll pay you, and I'll
- 26:05Speaker 1: pay you. I'll pay you. And this guy Frank says,
- 26:09Speaker 1: you know what, you don't have to pay me. I'm
- 26:13Speaker 1: the only US citizen on the island and it's my
- 26:16Speaker 1: duty to give all aid i can, because apparently we're
- 26:21Speaker 1: at a war. It's true, it's true, and you know,
- 26:25Speaker 1: so that happens. He gives him. He says he can
- 26:27Speaker 1: use his boats. Frank goes back to his family. They
- 26:30Speaker 1: have a nice meal. Um and at that point the
- 26:33Speaker 1: letter is delivered to Frank's home from the governor, a
- 26:36Speaker 1: man by the name of Juan marina Um signed L
- 26:41Speaker 1: Gobnador this letter and it says, translation is, if you
- 26:45Speaker 1: offer any assistance to the American men of war, you
- 26:48Speaker 1: will be executed tomorrow morning at the beach. And you know,
- 26:53Speaker 1: Frank's like, yeah, right, big words. So he reads the
- 26:59Speaker 1: note and he's pretty much giggling at it. It's like,
- 27:03Speaker 1: but his wife, you know, she she she thinks it's
- 27:05Speaker 1: a serious business. But Frank knows something that she does
- 27:08Speaker 1: not know. Right, So he he said to his wife,
- 27:12Speaker 1: who is beside herself with fear and sorrow. He says,
- 27:17Speaker 1: don't worry, cheer up. If anything comes the worst, I'll
- 27:21Speaker 1: have ships to take care of you and the kids.
- 27:24Speaker 1: And he shows the note to his brother and he said, look,
- 27:26Speaker 1: I already promised Captain Glass the lighters. I'm gonna send
- 27:29Speaker 1: him anyway, and uh Jose said, hey, watch out man.
- 27:35Speaker 1: Uh So, then he went to the Charleston again after lunch,
- 27:40Speaker 1: he showed the letter to Captain Glass, and Captain Glass said,
- 27:44Speaker 1: I got you, I got you. Yeah, he said, look,
- 27:46Speaker 1: I'm going to have the island delivered before daylight. What
- 27:49Speaker 1: they mean when they say island delivered is it's going
- 27:51Speaker 1: to officially become something under the control of the United States.
- 27:57Speaker 1: And the way that all went down, um, let's give
- 27:59Speaker 1: you the quick and dirty. Um. He sent an envoy
- 28:03Speaker 1: up to meet with the governor, the man who very
- 28:06Speaker 1: sinisterly threatened the life of our of our buddy Frank.
- 28:10Speaker 1: So as promised, Glass decides that he's he's ready to
- 28:13Speaker 1: set this in motion. Um. So the next day, June one,
- 28:16Speaker 1: he sends an envoy a guy by the name of
- 28:18Speaker 1: Lieutenant William brown Strewn Brown Browner, Browner's writer. He also
- 28:24Speaker 1: says that he's not sure if he's spelling the name
- 28:26Speaker 1: in the letter. That's right, Yeah, very true, And I'm
- 28:28Speaker 1: not sure I'm I'm saying it right. But that's I'm gonna.
- 28:30Speaker 1: I'm gonna commit to that. And they send a letter
- 28:33Speaker 1: by way of the Governor's people to deliver to him saying,
- 28:36Speaker 1: come come on the ship, Come hang with us, let's
- 28:39Speaker 1: chat on our turf on the ship, to which the
- 28:41Speaker 1: governor very civilly, at least the language in his response
- 28:44Speaker 1: declines because he says it is against Spanish law to
- 28:48Speaker 1: board a foreign vessel. And at the at the same time, uh,
- 28:53Speaker 1: this is still the twenty three of June. At the
- 28:55Speaker 1: same time, Uh, Frank has probably my favorite conversation in
- 28:59Speaker 1: this store. He goes back on board the Charleston and
- 29:02Speaker 1: he's talking to Captain Glass, and Glass says, hey, Frank,
- 29:08Speaker 1: you're the only US citizen on the island. We gotta go,
- 29:12Speaker 1: so could you take care of the island. Yeah, because
- 29:14Speaker 1: we're gonna have this stitched up real quick like, because
- 29:18Speaker 1: after the governor refused, he said, come hang with me
- 29:21Speaker 1: on the shore. Right. That's that's that's that's the best
- 29:23Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. So, um, Brown's right there. No, it's Browner.
- 29:29Speaker 1: Browner's right there. I'm gonna say it like that. He
- 29:31Speaker 1: goes with it with a few buddies, and he meets
- 29:34Speaker 1: up with the governor and he lets him know that, hey,
- 29:37Speaker 1: we've got a pretty formidable gun ship, you know, trained
- 29:40Speaker 1: on your island, and we're gonna give you thirty minutes
- 29:43Speaker 1: to deliberate with your people, and if you, uh, you know,
- 29:47Speaker 1: do not surrender, we're going to shell you and take
- 29:50Speaker 1: all you prisoner anyway, to which the governor replies, all right,
- 29:57Speaker 1: give me a minute, Give me a minute. He goes
- 29:59Speaker 1: and confers, returns with a sealed envelope. And what's in
- 30:03Speaker 1: the sealed envelope. Well, the thing that's funny is he
- 30:05Speaker 1: hands it to Brown's right. Browner's right. I'm never gonna
- 30:09Speaker 1: get it right. It's fine, um, and it's addressed to glass.
- 30:14Speaker 1: But our boy Mr B opens it himself, to which
- 30:18Speaker 1: the Governor responds, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not for you, man,
- 30:21Speaker 1: that's not diplomacy. Slow your role, to which Mr B responds,
- 30:25Speaker 1: I represent him here. Back off. Yeah, And so long
- 30:35Speaker 1: story short, maybe a little too late, but this far
- 30:38Speaker 1: story short the Spanish officials are taken into custody and
- 30:45Speaker 1: they go aboard the boat and they're bound for the Philippines. Yeah,
- 30:49Speaker 1: it's all very civil too, because they're like, whoa man,
- 30:52Speaker 1: I don't have him a toothbrush. I all got out
- 30:54Speaker 1: of the clothes on my back. And the Americans are like, yo,
- 30:57Speaker 1: it's cool. We'll let you write to your family, will
- 30:59Speaker 1: let them bring you a knapsack, you know, an overnight bag,
- 31:03Speaker 1: and you'll you'll be comfortable, You'll be taken care of
- 31:05Speaker 1: and uh, and all we need you to do is
- 31:08Speaker 1: get all of your troops to line up and come
- 31:11Speaker 1: aboard our ship to be our prisoners. And you know what,
- 31:14Speaker 1: That's exactly how it went down. Yeah. Not a not
- 31:17Speaker 1: a violent death at all, nary a drop of blood
- 31:20Speaker 1: was spilt, right, just an awkward uh salute that left
- 31:25Speaker 1: both both sides of the conflict feeling as lame as
- 31:30Speaker 1: you know, someone who had a high five that wasn't returned,
- 31:34Speaker 1: if that's ever happened to you, and you just hold
- 31:35Speaker 1: your hand up. But the story isn't over. It does
- 31:38Speaker 1: get a little bit fuzzy here because the Charleston and
- 31:42Speaker 1: cost set off for the Philippines, and General Glass says, hey, Frank,
- 31:47Speaker 1: you're in charge because you're literally the only U. S.
- 31:50Speaker 1: Citizen here, to which Frank says, tight, yeah, I'll make
- 31:55Speaker 1: it happen. And the problem is that he has not
- 31:58Speaker 1: given any written appointment from Commander Glass, and they're just
- 32:03Speaker 1: meant to be temporary, right, Like it's just sort of
- 32:05Speaker 1: like in the interim, it's like hold the spot. So
- 32:08Speaker 1: this makes him the first American governor of the island.
- 32:12Speaker 1: But there's another character here, and it's not a it's
- 32:16Speaker 1: not in a cut and dried story. The man we
- 32:18Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, Jose six Though, the paymaster, the paymaster, it's
- 32:23Speaker 1: always I knew there was a twist. Yeah, the Paymaster
- 32:26Speaker 1: still has a lot of control, and he is with
- 32:29Speaker 1: the former Spanish government. And now these two men are
- 32:35Speaker 1: in kind of an informal fight for power, and I
- 32:39Speaker 1: missed this part entirely. Go on. Well, So after Glass
- 32:43Speaker 1: leaves and after Frank becomes the governor, six Though refuses
- 32:49Speaker 1: to surrender the island's treasury to Frank, and there are
- 32:52Speaker 1: no American sailors or marines. There's nothing supporting his claim
- 32:56Speaker 1: to power. Why wasn't he arrested along with all the
- 32:58Speaker 1: other officials. I guess he's just a just a nimble
- 33:03Speaker 1: guy easily. But he he just said, I'm going to
- 33:07Speaker 1: keep paying any Spanish bureaucrats, I'm gonna pay members of
- 33:10Speaker 1: the militia. And this consolidates his influence over the island.
- 33:13Speaker 1: Sounds sticky, and he was bad with money. Because he
- 33:16Speaker 1: bankrupts the treasury, law and order starts to break down.
- 33:20Speaker 1: The native residents of Guam and Filipinos that are living
- 33:26Speaker 1: on the island begin fighting their riots. And for his part,
- 33:30Speaker 1: Frank is doing his best because he says, look, we
- 33:33Speaker 1: need to make some improvements on the island, specifically this
- 33:36Speaker 1: road that was just in piss poor shape. And six
- 33:41Speaker 1: though was like, wait, I control the money and do
- 33:44Speaker 1: shan't have a penny? Was he like the troll and
- 33:46Speaker 1: guarded the bridge a little less? Yeah? Yeah, um, yes,
- 33:51Speaker 1: this does. This sounds like a real a real ship show.
- 33:54Speaker 1: There we go. Hey, that's that's son of a Fish
- 33:57Speaker 1: and the ship show. We are building this vocabulary pretty
- 34:00Speaker 1: well and the mythology. Um, but so like you know,
- 34:03Speaker 1: things happen, it gets it's it's obviously any time you
- 34:07Speaker 1: occupy a territory, it's gonna be a little rough for
- 34:09Speaker 1: a little while. But ultimately after UM the war ended
- 34:14Speaker 1: with the Treaty of Paris that was signed UM. Guam
- 34:19Speaker 1: and the Philippines were purchased from Spain for a relatively
- 34:26Speaker 1: paltry twenty million dollars UM, and these lands were finalized
- 34:30Speaker 1: as US territories when the U. S. Senate ratified the
- 34:34Speaker 1: treaty in UM eighteen ninety nine February six to be precise.
- 34:39Speaker 1: So this goes, This goes pretty quickly, right. It seems
- 34:43Speaker 1: like from eighteen the Guam landing to the Treaty of Paris,
- 34:50Speaker 1: we're only looking at a few years. But this had
- 34:54Speaker 1: a massive effect on the US is Geoe political position
- 34:59Speaker 1: and a pretty nasty effect on Spain because Spain began
- 35:03Speaker 1: to focus inward and the US emerged from this war
- 35:07Speaker 1: as a maybe not a superpower, but a legitimate world
- 35:11Speaker 1: power with possessions half a world away and a new
- 35:16Speaker 1: steak in international politics, like kind of like an empire
- 35:21Speaker 1: or something, yes, exactly, kind of like an empire. But
- 35:27Speaker 1: luckily no one in Guam was injured in that takeover.
- 35:31Speaker 1: That is cool because there is actually a conspiracy theory.
- 35:33Speaker 1: Let's just drop this here at the end, that in fact,
- 35:36Speaker 1: the US did not get involved in the Spanish American
- 35:39Speaker 1: War for these humanitarian reasons we discussed earlier. Um, yeah,
- 35:43Speaker 1: it was reasons of pure greed and to extend their
- 35:47Speaker 1: world domination outward. And you know they ultimately succeeded in that,
- 35:52Speaker 1: at least in in a couple of small ways. Say
- 35:55Speaker 1: it ain't so you know it's a theory. Yes, that
- 35:58Speaker 1: is one of several ariies. But you know what's not
- 36:01Speaker 1: a theory, the idea that we hope you enjoyed this show.
- 36:05Speaker 1: That's a that's a clunky segue. No, no, man, you
- 36:08Speaker 1: got from A to B and then's all a segue
- 36:10Speaker 1: needs to accomplish. And here we are at B being
- 36:13Speaker 1: the end of the show. Yeah, but I feel like
- 36:15Speaker 1: we would circuitously through G for guam. You are that's fire,
- 36:21Speaker 1: my friend. So thank you, as always so much for
- 36:26Speaker 1: checking out today's episode. We want to think, of course,
- 36:29Speaker 1: super producer Casey Pegram, who is not to our knowledge,
- 36:32Speaker 1: ever invaded a Pacific nation. It's true now Casey is
- 36:37Speaker 1: is a is a peaceful man and uh he's got
- 36:40Speaker 1: a peaceful plan. Yes, uh. And we'd also like to think,
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