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- 0:09Speaker 1: Hey, welcome in. It is showtime. This is three Guys
- 0:15Speaker 1: before the Game, episode number five hundred and ninety four.
- 0:21Speaker 1: So I guess we're moving to six hundred, like pretty quick.
- 0:24Speaker 2: He's coming up.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Before Santa gets here, we'll have six hundred. It's incredible,
- 0:29Speaker 1: that is it's crazy incredible. Yeah, this is our preview
- 0:33Speaker 1: of West Virginia and the Nights of UCF with a
- 0:37Speaker 1: little post basketball. After West Virginia gobbled the Gales of Iona.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Hoppies here, that's always good. The Senator is here, that's
- 0:49Speaker 1: always nice. And we go away with three Guys before
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- 1:31Speaker 1: the boats are probably there now all right, the slips.
- 1:34Speaker 3: Probably I'll filled up yere, they're probably out.
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- 2:16Speaker 3: Really good.
- 2:17Speaker 1: What's that gingerbread putzels?
- 2:20Speaker 2: Ooh nice.
- 2:21Speaker 1: We'll give you some because Brad's been eating them all
- 2:23Speaker 1: week and I've had one, so we'll give you the rest.
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- 2:27Speaker 2: I just want one.
- 2:28Speaker 1: It's extra tremendous effort by Angie who brought those to
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- 2:33Speaker 1: Food court wasn't going to happen last weekend, so she
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- 2:46Speaker 3: It up on my shift earlier this week.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, coming up tomorrow. We record Thursday, coming
- 2:51Speaker 1: up tomorrow. Our first ever could be our last if
- 2:54Speaker 1: the police come. Our last, first and last speakeasy event.
- 2:59Speaker 1: It is sold out. We're thrilled with that. And I'll
- 3:03Speaker 1: read you people are literally coming from all over the country.
- 3:06Speaker 1: I mean not just to the speaking they're coming to
- 3:08Speaker 1: the game, but they're from all over the country. So
- 3:11Speaker 1: we're looking forward to that. Still don't know where it
- 3:13Speaker 1: is and waiting for that to be uhrow.
- 3:18Speaker 2: I saw a cryptic picture.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Pretty neat, isn't that? That's the actual picture where it
- 3:23Speaker 1: is down that side alley?
- 3:25Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 3:25Speaker 3: Still parts unknown though for most Yeah, including.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Need some security.
- 3:32Speaker 1: I like parts parts unknown is a great term, isn't
- 3:36Speaker 1: parts unknown a great term? Pro wrestling? The guy that
- 3:39Speaker 1: had the mask on and in the blow corner from
- 3:42Speaker 1: Parts Unknown, it was a great intrigue. I'm gonna use
- 3:45Speaker 1: that one of these days during the game when I
- 3:47Speaker 1: don't know where a kid's from hometown, I was a
- 3:49Speaker 1: tackle made by Slovenski from parts.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Unknown underused term nowadays you need more.
- 3:56Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's jump in time for Hoppies obvious
- 4:00Speaker 1: observations as West Virginia prepares to play its final home
- 4:04Speaker 1: game of twenty twenty four.
- 4:07Speaker 4: Hash We'll start with this hashtag WWTBT. Hashtag WWTBT.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Who wants to be there?
- 4:17Speaker 1: Oh?
- 4:18Speaker 2: Who wants to be there? Start with Mountaineer Nation.
- 4:21Speaker 4: Been a disappointing home schedule, Weather's going to be crappy?
- 4:25Speaker 2: Who wants to be there? Fan wise? Second of all,
- 4:29Speaker 2: which team wants to be there? Now?
- 4:32Speaker 4: West Virginia your home, you got Senior Day, you got
- 4:34Speaker 4: some things going in your favor. You still have bold possibilities.
- 4:38Speaker 4: So they have not given any indication so far this
- 4:42Speaker 4: season despite disappointments that they're not going to show up.
- 4:45Speaker 4: But still you're in some new territory here with that
- 4:47Speaker 4: last week loss and coming down to the end of
- 4:50Speaker 4: the season, and then for UCF coming from Florida to
- 4:56Speaker 4: a Chili the Chili Mountains of West Virginia. They only
- 4:59Speaker 4: got four wins. They're trying to get to six wins.
- 5:02Speaker 4: Do they want to be here? So I would start
- 5:06Speaker 4: there with the macro number one. Second of all, and
- 5:09Speaker 4: I know that Brad will get deeper into the stats.
- 5:11Speaker 4: But they're coming off of bye week, so they should
- 5:14Speaker 4: be rested.
- 5:15Speaker 2: They should be repaired.
- 5:16Speaker 4: We know what happened last week when you had to
- 5:18Speaker 4: play a team that came off of bye week. They
- 5:20Speaker 4: were better. I know, Brad. We have a lot of
- 5:22Speaker 4: stats on RJ. Harvey, but Brad. One of the stats
- 5:24Speaker 4: that stands out to me most forty four rushers of
- 5:27Speaker 4: ten yards or more, explosive, explosive. West Virginia was good
- 5:33Speaker 4: against this team last year. They rushed for two hundred
- 5:36Speaker 4: and eighty six yards and three touchdown. Garret Green had
- 5:37Speaker 4: three touchdowns rushing against them last year. So you ran
- 5:40Speaker 4: against them last year, can you run against them this year?
- 5:44Speaker 4: They got an interesting thing going with the quarterback. I
- 5:47Speaker 4: mean they've played every I think Brad might have done one.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Game at quarterback there.
- 5:50Speaker 3: They've been rotating.
- 5:52Speaker 4: They've been rotating four different people at least have played quarterback.
- 5:55Speaker 4: Jer Corey Brown, kJ Jefferson. Now they're with the red
- 5:58Speaker 4: shirt freshman Dylan Rich who played well the last two games.
- 6:02Speaker 4: Risk came in in against Arizona he was twenty of
- 6:06Speaker 4: twenty five for two ninety four and three touchdowns against
- 6:08Speaker 4: Arizona State twenty four of thirty four two twenty nine.
- 6:10Speaker 4: Who's playing well. So he's playing well, and you got
- 6:13Speaker 4: Harvey you gotta worry about. So those are my obvious
- 6:17Speaker 4: observations to start the discussion.
- 6:20Speaker 1: I think those are exceptional.
- 6:21Speaker 2: Well, thank you.
- 6:22Speaker 1: I think your first one, the whole TBT thing. At first,
- 6:25Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about the basketball tournament in
- 6:27Speaker 1: the summer. Threw us for a loop there, but exactly right.
- 6:30Speaker 1: At this point in the season, it's as much about
- 6:33Speaker 1: who wants to get after it because you can't fake
- 6:35Speaker 1: this game, right, You can't. You can't half play this game.
- 6:38Speaker 1: If you have play it, you get rolled. So you're
- 6:41Speaker 1: right for all of those reasons. Does Senior Day serve
- 6:45Speaker 1: as a catalyst to the Mountaineers.
- 6:48Speaker 2: I hope it does.
- 6:49Speaker 1: I certainly hope.
- 6:49Speaker 2: So. I hope it does.
- 6:50Speaker 4: I mean those are your those are you know, coaches, whatever, fans,
- 6:55Speaker 4: your teammates, your teammate, that's your brother. Never leave your wingman,
- 6:59Speaker 4: right said? So Hopefully the hopefully the brotherhood pulls together
- 7:03Speaker 4: for this game.
- 7:05Speaker 3: So there's a lot of stuff and I do think
- 7:07Speaker 3: that's a huge part of this game. But I'll say this,
- 7:10Speaker 3: I'm not going to make it a huge part of
- 7:12Speaker 3: the show. Because we do this every year. The three
- 7:15Speaker 3: of us have been doing this a long time. We
- 7:17Speaker 3: have this similar discussion all the time going into these
- 7:20Speaker 3: last couple of games, and you know what, we don't
- 7:22Speaker 3: know what, we.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Don't know what.
- 7:24Speaker 3: We don't know right because sometimes senior day rises guys up.
- 7:28Speaker 3: Other times it's like, I just get me the hell
- 7:30Speaker 3: out of here. I want to be done. And I'm
- 7:32Speaker 3: talking about both teams, and there's going to be a
- 7:34Speaker 3: little of both of that. It's just who is in
- 7:36Speaker 3: what mindset there. There's so much noise around this West
- 7:39Speaker 3: Virginia program right now. It's difficult. And I've given credit
- 7:42Speaker 3: all year to players that have been able to fight
- 7:44Speaker 3: through all that and step out and for the most part,
- 7:46Speaker 3: even when there hasn't been wins, have given good effort.
- 7:49Speaker 3: Right they've gone after it. But what's going on this week?
- 7:51Speaker 3: You just don't know. West Virginia wise. You hope these
- 7:54Speaker 3: guys that are that know they're going to be done
- 7:56Speaker 3: go out and play really well in their final game.
- 7:58Speaker 3: But there's other guys that aren't seniors that it may
- 8:00Speaker 3: be senior day for them as well. So what do
- 8:02Speaker 3: they give you? On the UCF side, that's a weird
- 8:05Speaker 3: situation for them too. They obviously haven't quit, they're playing
- 8:08Speaker 3: writing games, but they've lost six to seven. Some of
- 8:10Speaker 3: their folks are talking about Gus Malzan's future too. They
- 8:13Speaker 3: come up here. They're off a bye week, which should
- 8:15Speaker 3: mean rested in more preparation. It could also mean their
- 8:17Speaker 3: guys went, you know, it's kind of nice that we
- 8:20Speaker 3: didn't have to play this, So there's going to be
- 8:22Speaker 3: some of that, right, That's just that's part of the deal.
- 8:24Speaker 3: With one hundred some guys, you get a little of
- 8:26Speaker 3: both of that. So I think for us to sit
- 8:28Speaker 3: here and try and handicap what those things mean. Guys
- 8:31Speaker 3: from Florida come in any some of them aren't going
- 8:33Speaker 3: to like the cold. Others are going to say, you
- 8:34Speaker 3: know what, I got an opportunity today, I'm going to
- 8:35Speaker 3: go play, So how do you know that stuff? So
- 8:37Speaker 3: we'll get into some numbers here on the field, and
- 8:40Speaker 3: I think that's the only way you can look at
- 8:42Speaker 3: this game, because trying to handicap all that other stuff
- 8:44Speaker 3: best alone.
- 8:44Speaker 4: You can't you know, I agree, you can't handicap it,
- 8:47Speaker 4: except you have to say it may well be a factor.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Oh, I think. I think it is a factor. There's
- 8:53Speaker 3: just no way to predict what the factor is going
- 8:55Speaker 3: to be for which of these teams that are both
- 8:57Speaker 3: dealing with some uncertain It does.
- 8:59Speaker 4: Speak to that how you perform maybe in early on
- 9:03Speaker 4: or the first half. I mean, if it's halftime and
- 9:06Speaker 4: one team is up twenty one to seven, yes, and
- 9:09Speaker 4: they go in the locker room and say, boy, it's
- 9:11Speaker 4: nice and warming here for you toasting.
- 9:13Speaker 3: We think. But to give a counterpoint, that happened at
- 9:16Speaker 3: Baylor last year for West Virginia in the final game.
- 9:18Speaker 3: Baylor was in the midst of a historically bad season
- 9:20Speaker 3: for them, and you had him down right and you're like,
- 9:23Speaker 3: about right to lay down here. Here we go and
- 9:25Speaker 3: all of a sudden, a couple kickoffs later, and you're
- 9:27Speaker 3: fighting for your life and need the miraculous play by
- 9:30Speaker 3: Zach and then the Jehem White wheel to get out
- 9:32Speaker 3: of there with a win. So that's the luck. Trying
- 9:34Speaker 3: to handicap human behavior with this age group in this
- 9:37Speaker 3: situation late the season really hard to do.
- 9:38Speaker 1: I don't know which of the stats that we discuss
- 9:41Speaker 1: on this program will ultimately be the one that decides
- 9:44Speaker 1: the game, but I have a strong feeling that we
- 9:47Speaker 1: will overhype the weather. Like I was trying to think, Oh,
- 9:52Speaker 1: people have been saying this, we owh they don't want
- 9:54Speaker 1: to come playing the colds might be rainy and cold, right,
- 9:58Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, Okay, look back in your mind,
- 10:01Speaker 1: can you specifically tell me one game, one game late
- 10:06Speaker 1: in the season where you go like, well, that team
- 10:08Speaker 1: was totally impacted by the weather, that team thing. I can't.
- 10:12Speaker 1: I can't, I just I can't. I have it.
- 10:15Speaker 4: There's all these games in my head and they all
- 10:17Speaker 4: run together a tell bread or bread, and I talk
- 10:19Speaker 4: about every game between nineteen eighty and.
- 10:22Speaker 2: Two thousand is the same year. Well, let me ask
- 10:26Speaker 2: you this. Remember the year we were at Rutgers and.
- 10:28Speaker 1: It's oh my gosh, oh yeah. And they kept bringing
- 10:33Speaker 1: the They helped West for they helped West Virginia tremendously
- 10:35Speaker 1: because they kept bringing the plow it out of the field.
- 10:38Speaker 1: Remember they should they should have never done that. But
- 10:40Speaker 1: I like a car plows out of gas. Can't can't
- 10:43Speaker 1: figure they helped us. But on the Rutgers was just man,
- 10:49Speaker 1: I'll tell you you want to know another bad weather
- 10:51Speaker 1: game that just absolutely suculated. Pinstripe Bowl. Oh yeah, miserable, terrible,
- 10:58Speaker 1: And I'm trying to bras some bad weather off the
- 11:02Speaker 1: top of your head.
- 11:02Speaker 3: And their tight ends are running nuts, yes, off the
- 11:04Speaker 3: top of the western. You practice at all before the
- 11:07Speaker 3: last game to the bowl game?
- 11:08Speaker 1: Right?
- 11:08Speaker 3: Did they have one practice or none?
- 11:10Speaker 1: They never practiced after arriving in New York.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Jeez, and the pit the pit game here where it
- 11:16Speaker 2: was like minus ten.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Yeah, what about the UCF whiteouts USF whiteout? Do you
- 11:23Speaker 1: think the weather impacted those guys? I'm trying to remember,
- 11:26Speaker 1: like if that could have been one of those games
- 11:27Speaker 1: where they went like we don't want to be.
- 11:29Speaker 4: Here, I think, But you're right, you don't know, and
- 11:32Speaker 4: maybe it won't be as bad here as it is
- 11:34Speaker 4: in Tucker County, you know, in Randolph County.
- 11:37Speaker 2: But also it's gonna affect Look, it's gonna affect.
- 11:39Speaker 4: Attendance and if you're not, if you're down, it's going
- 11:42Speaker 4: to affect how long people stay around it's going to
- 11:44Speaker 4: be like six o'clock I need to get home or
- 11:46Speaker 4: whether so there it'll have I think it will have
- 11:49Speaker 4: an impact.
- 11:49Speaker 2: Now to what degree I don't know, but it will
- 11:51Speaker 2: have an impact, can have.
- 11:52Speaker 1: A massive impact. Right, dorms close on Friday? Will your
- 11:54Speaker 1: windows be open to close? Hell? No, I mean I
- 11:58Speaker 1: can pretend, I can retend. No. No, Now, well we'll
- 12:01Speaker 1: keep the windows shut. Get that crowd mic out there. Fine, Okay,
- 12:04Speaker 1: I'm good, I got it. I'm good. Three guys before
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- 13:10Speaker 2: Tony one other just one other thing and Brad touched
- 13:13Speaker 2: on it.
- 13:14Speaker 1: But this is it.
- 13:15Speaker 4: This is a This game doesn't determine who wins the
- 13:18Speaker 4: conference or gets to the playoffs anything like that huge
- 13:21Speaker 4: game for each of the two coaches. Gusmelson's fourth year
- 13:25Speaker 4: and he's above five hundred. But there's grumbling there. There's
- 13:28Speaker 4: grumbling over Neil Brown. Somebody needs a win here.
- 13:31Speaker 3: Both each of these each of these guys need a win,
- 13:34Speaker 3: not somebody both do yes?
- 13:35Speaker 1: Yes, question, no question?
- 13:38Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's part of the story, right, And that's
- 13:39Speaker 3: why we say that on the West Virginia side, in particular.
- 13:42Speaker 3: I don't quite care much about UCF and Gus Malls
- 13:44Speaker 3: on a due respect to whatever they do well, but
- 13:46Speaker 3: for this particular part, Yeah, this is this is starting
- 13:50Speaker 3: to tell you what the future is going to be
- 13:51Speaker 3: for West Virginia football, right and these next two weeks
- 13:55Speaker 3: matter to what that answer is going to be for
- 13:58Speaker 3: a lot of people that are involved. So how does
- 14:00Speaker 3: that play into what happens on the field in particular
- 14:03Speaker 3: this Saturday. That's a that's a huge question, also impossible
- 14:06Speaker 3: to handicap, but a key factor in this game. There's
- 14:08Speaker 3: no doubt about that.
- 14:09Speaker 1: I mean, just do the math. You could be seven
- 14:10Speaker 1: and five, you could be five and seven. Big difference,
- 14:15Speaker 1: big difference, six and six, middle of the teeter totter,
- 14:20Speaker 1: kind of teeter totters like this, No Falkrum hobby, you
- 14:22Speaker 1: know Falkrum, Yes, falkm makes some one of the end
- 14:25Speaker 1: that So six and six you're like this, what's that mean.
- 14:29Speaker 2: Means you're It means you're teetering at six and six.
- 14:31Speaker 1: Seven and five, more like this, five, five and seven.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Five and seven.
- 14:37Speaker 4: It would be it's going to be difficult for Neil
- 14:40Speaker 4: Brown to keep his job at five and seven.
- 14:44Speaker 2: Fact.
- 14:45Speaker 1: Yeah, ready to do some numbers. You got basketball in
- 14:49Speaker 1: this too, or you were at the game last night.
- 14:52Speaker 1: I was okay, I went over.
- 14:53Speaker 2: I had a good performance though by the Mountaineers.
- 14:56Speaker 4: Good bounce back just came out.
- 14:59Speaker 3: Brad made shop made shots and they didn't. You absolutely
- 15:02Speaker 3: locked them up defensive.
- 15:03Speaker 1: As Don Nielan was prone to say, just what we want,
- 15:07Speaker 1: just what we needed. Spreads on stats is brought to
- 15:12Speaker 1: us by the commonly CPA Group, the Premiere, an approved
- 15:20Speaker 1: accountancy firm of three guys before the game. What's this
- 15:23Speaker 1: value beyond numbers means, well, it's a lot more than numbers.
- 15:26Speaker 1: When you're in the accounting business. They can consult and
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- 15:34Speaker 1: CFO services, they've been doing it coming up forty years,
- 15:38Speaker 1: and they are experienced. They're local. You know a lot
- 15:41Speaker 1: of these accounting firms they get bought up by bigger
- 15:43Speaker 1: companies and they may still be in the state, but
- 15:46Speaker 1: they're owned by non bigger outside firm. Now big accounting,
- 15:52Speaker 1: big accounting, Yeah, big accounting, big Candy. Any big accounting,
- 15:55Speaker 1: big accounting, Yeah, exactly well. Connley CPA locally owned and
- 16:00Speaker 1: have been for over forty years. They get West Virginia
- 16:03Speaker 1: visit them Conley's CPA group. So what are you doing
- 16:05Speaker 1: in first football?
- 16:05Speaker 3: They're not going to be told to sell kitcats when
- 16:07Speaker 3: they really don't want to sell kitcats like Big Candy
- 16:09Speaker 3: sometimes does.
- 16:10Speaker 1: Run exactly correct? Correct?
- 16:13Speaker 3: Okay, would you ask me?
- 16:13Speaker 1: I'm sorry you're doing football first.
- 16:15Speaker 3: Let's do football first.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Let's go to the numbers.
- 16:17Speaker 3: Hey hop, Yes, I probably should have just given this
- 16:19Speaker 3: to you for your obvious observations, because first and foremost
- 16:23Speaker 3: keys to these games. This game. Can West Virginia slow
- 16:26Speaker 3: the run game of UCS. We're gonna spend some hours
- 16:30Speaker 3: talking about that.
- 16:31Speaker 2: Yeah, it starts there, obvious observation.
- 16:34Speaker 3: They run the ball well, lead the Big Twelve in
- 16:36Speaker 3: rush attempts, lead the Big twelve in rush yards, second
- 16:38Speaker 3: nationally in rush yards per games, by the way, lead
- 16:40Speaker 3: the Big Twelve, and rushing touchdowns lead the Big Twelve
- 16:42Speaker 3: and rushing first downs. They are going to run it,
- 16:45Speaker 3: and they're going to use R. J. Harvey to do so.
- 16:47Speaker 3: Thirteen hundred and twenty nine yards rushing had fourteen hundred
- 16:51Speaker 3: last year he's going to approve upon that, most likely
- 16:54Speaker 3: with two games remaining in their schedule. He's a dude, man.
- 16:56Speaker 3: He's been really, really good.
- 16:58Speaker 1: He got thirteen hunter ten games correct buck thirty a game.
- 17:04Speaker 3: Third nationally and rush yards per game and total rushing yards.
- 17:07Speaker 3: He's averaged almost seven yards of carry this deep in
- 17:10Speaker 3: the season for a team that you know is going
- 17:11Speaker 3: to run it like that's what they do. They're going
- 17:13Speaker 3: to run the football seven yards per carry, nineteen rushing touchdowns,
- 17:18Speaker 3: only two fumbles, ten rushing touchdowns in the last four games,
- 17:22Speaker 3: averaging four to ten yard runs per game, and only
- 17:25Speaker 3: has three non to one hundred rushing games. Can West
- 17:29Speaker 3: Virginia slow the running attack? Now, if there's one thing
- 17:32Speaker 3: this defense has been decent at this season, it's slowing
- 17:36Speaker 3: running the football. I know the second half got away
- 17:39Speaker 3: for Westervirginia last week in that regard, but they were
- 17:41Speaker 3: pretty good with that early. Baylor just went and tacked
- 17:44Speaker 3: them through the air like a lot of teams have done.
- 17:46Speaker 3: West Virginia has the fifth best run defense grade per
- 17:49Speaker 3: Pro Football Focus, So that's something to watch. Can you
- 17:52Speaker 3: slow down the running attack of UCF, which one of
- 17:57Speaker 3: you said, get off to a good start, and maybe
- 17:59Speaker 3: the other one says, no, thank you, you say that, Tony.
- 18:01Speaker 1: I like to get off to a really strong start.
- 18:03Speaker 3: Yes, so does R. J. Harvey. Sixty two percent of
- 18:06Speaker 3: his rushing yards have come in the first half. He
- 18:09Speaker 3: also leads the nation in second quarter rushing yards, so
- 18:14Speaker 3: he's been very good early. Really another one, hop yeah,
- 18:19Speaker 3: watch out for early downs with these guys. Sixty two
- 18:23Speaker 3: percent of RJ. Harvey's rushing yards have come on first down,
- 18:27Speaker 3: and he leads the nation in first down rushing touchdowns.
- 18:31Speaker 4: Because on first down, what are they gonna do? Give
- 18:35Speaker 4: it to their best player. There's a good point.
- 18:38Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it on second down too, most likely.
- 18:40Speaker 3: So here's the part of that. Can you slow the run?
- 18:43Speaker 3: And then you mentioned their quarterback situation. I think maybe
- 18:46Speaker 3: unfortunately for West Virginia, they like Dylan Risk here, the
- 18:49Speaker 3: red shirt freshmen they've brought in for this reason. Hop
- 18:52Speaker 3: he's been able to throw it a little bit. Their
- 18:54Speaker 3: other quarterbacks have not been able to. Jack Curry Brown
- 18:56Speaker 3: really good on the on the ground, he had one
- 18:58Speaker 3: hundred and fifty four yards rushing against Iowa State, but
- 19:02Speaker 3: the passing complimentary piece has been the challenge. Risk looks
- 19:06Speaker 3: like he's better in that area. Throwing it the one
- 19:09Speaker 3: thing and this goes back to kind of a combo
- 19:11Speaker 3: key here, so you slow the run. And I think
- 19:14Speaker 3: this is one of those guys. If Dylan Risk goes
- 19:16Speaker 3: out and beat you through the air, okay, so be it.
- 19:18Speaker 3: If you can try and hold RJ. Harvey to a
- 19:21Speaker 3: reasonable number under one hundred, maybe tough. He's only had
- 19:23Speaker 3: three of those, as I mentioned. And Dylan Risk beats
- 19:26Speaker 3: you in the air with West Virginia struggles in the
- 19:28Speaker 3: air all year, so be it. But does West Virginia
- 19:30Speaker 3: get back to what looked like a better game plan
- 19:33Speaker 3: against Cincinnati than it did Baylor? Right where you get
- 19:36Speaker 3: and namely, what am I talking about? Get some pressure?
- 19:39Speaker 1: Yes?
- 19:39Speaker 3: Can you get after do two things a young quarterback
- 19:42Speaker 3: that's inexperienced, Well, can you confuse and can you pressure?
- 19:46Speaker 3: Those are the two obvious things you want to do
- 19:49Speaker 3: any week, but especially against a young one.
- 19:50Speaker 2: What it was Virginia not do last week?
- 19:52Speaker 3: Didn't confuse and didn't get pressure neither one of those things. So,
- 19:56Speaker 3: like most quarterbacks, Risk drops down to a fifty two
- 19:59Speaker 3: percent complet guy. When you get pressure on him. So
- 20:01Speaker 3: can you give some different looks like you did against
- 20:03Speaker 3: Cincinnati where Sowresby just didn't have any idea what you
- 20:06Speaker 3: were doing led to some turnovers. That's the obvious. Another
- 20:10Speaker 3: obvious play for you. That's what the defense has to
- 20:12Speaker 3: do this week. Can it get back to some confusion
- 20:15Speaker 3: and bring pressure and then if they beat you through
- 20:17Speaker 3: that okay, But you can't just do what you did.
- 20:19Speaker 3: Let them stand back, throw it to the short side,
- 20:22Speaker 3: to the slot, and let them just matriculate down the field.
- 20:25Speaker 3: Then hand it to Harvey or you're in a world
- 20:27Speaker 3: a hurt.
- 20:28Speaker 1: Right.
- 20:28Speaker 3: They're able to do some more rpo stuff with risk
- 20:30Speaker 3: because he throws it better. So that's a concern. So
- 20:33Speaker 3: that's why slow the run first, make it some obvious
- 20:36Speaker 3: passing downs, and then come get in with some pressure.
- 20:40Speaker 1: Coach Charles got the game plan.
- 20:41Speaker 2: He does have a game plan.
- 20:43Speaker 4: He can you can you Mexican you guys starts question. Oh,
- 20:46Speaker 4: by the way, stop Harvey and then do these things.
- 20:50Speaker 2: I just did.
- 20:50Speaker 3: But first give you a lot of obvious you stop
- 20:52Speaker 3: here all right, now, let's flip over to the other
- 20:54Speaker 3: side here, because I'm I'm intrigued to watch this you
- 20:57Speaker 3: look at UCF's run defense numb and hop you mentioned
- 21:00Speaker 3: last year, what Western did you do on the ground
- 21:02Speaker 3: against him?
- 21:02Speaker 2: Ran like two fifty to eighty something, so.
- 21:05Speaker 3: Big played them through the air, right in addition to
- 21:07Speaker 3: some turnovers that the defense got. But you look at
- 21:09Speaker 3: this UCF run defense number wise and you go, well,
- 21:12Speaker 3: they're they're better. They've improved that pretty significantly. In fact,
- 21:16Speaker 3: they have the best run defense grade in the Big twelve.
- 21:19Speaker 3: Excuse me, best run defense grade in the Big twelve
- 21:22Speaker 3: today today, per PFF, why aren't they in the championship
- 21:26Speaker 3: of the league. The rush explosiveness, they're line yards. This
- 21:30Speaker 3: is defensive numbers, rush explosiveness for the opponent. Opponent line yards,
- 21:34Speaker 3: stuff rate, rush EPA per play defensively all in the
- 21:37Speaker 3: seventy fifth percentile or above. So this is one of
- 21:41Speaker 3: those you know, a big number guy. Yeah, how some
- 21:43Speaker 3: people that don't like to do the numbers always tell
- 21:45Speaker 3: you numbers lie or can lie, right? Is this one
- 21:48Speaker 3: of those where they lie? Give you an example. Arizona
- 21:51Speaker 3: State ran for only ninety nine yards against them, not
- 21:54Speaker 3: very good. Good for the defense, not very good for
- 21:56Speaker 3: air zone. State didn't have their running back. Yes, Yeah,
- 22:00Speaker 3: he was out.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Scatt was out. Scott's skate he was out.
- 22:02Speaker 3: Arizona had just five yards rushing against them, but Arizona
- 22:06Speaker 3: doesn't run it well and UCF was drilling them so
- 22:09Speaker 3: they had to throw. So that's kind of maybe a
- 22:11Speaker 3: fake number there, Right, that's two. Go to the flip
- 22:14Speaker 3: side BYU went for two sixty eight on the ground
- 22:17Speaker 3: and nearly six yards per carry. And I'm gonna come
- 22:20Speaker 3: back to this. Jake Rhetz Laugh had fifty one yards,
- 22:23Speaker 3: including eleven yards per scramble. Carrie Retzlaf averaged eleven yards
- 22:27Speaker 3: of tote on scrambles. We make a little note, let's
- 22:30Speaker 3: come back to that. Even in the Arizona State game,
- 22:33Speaker 3: quarterback Sam Levitt average six point three yards per scramble.
- 22:36Speaker 3: We'll come back to that. I was stayed on the ground,
- 22:38Speaker 3: went for nearly three hundred yards on him in six
- 22:40Speaker 3: yards per carry. Rocko went for a buck eleven on
- 22:43Speaker 3: the ground.
- 22:46Speaker 1: How can you say?
- 22:48Speaker 3: Okay? So that's what I'm saying. Is this a West
- 22:50Speaker 3: Virginia's rush offense? That listen, We know it hasn't been
- 22:53Speaker 3: as dominant as last year, but what has been as
- 22:55Speaker 3: dominant is Garrett just making places. Now, this would be
- 22:58Speaker 3: a good time to have the unning backs burst. It'd
- 23:01Speaker 3: have a good time to be for the offensive line
- 23:03Speaker 3: to move some people up front, then get that offense
- 23:06Speaker 3: clicking a little bit on the ground. It can't just
- 23:07Speaker 3: be Garrett in the backyard saying, hey, can you go
- 23:10Speaker 3: make us a play here? We need you to just
- 23:11Speaker 3: scramble like you did last week. Someone's got to help out.
- 23:14Speaker 3: But your passing offense is going to be what's already
- 23:17Speaker 3: been a limited pass offense may be a little more
- 23:19Speaker 3: limited with no trailing ray, right, So that becomes a
- 23:22Speaker 3: little bit of a challenge. So is this one of
- 23:25Speaker 3: those games, Hopware In the postgame we sit there and go, yeah,
- 23:28Speaker 3: those UCF run numbers are pretty good. Western ear ran
- 23:30Speaker 3: for eighty three on the ground, and they kept Garrett
- 23:32Speaker 3: in check. If you do that, you're probably in some
- 23:34Speaker 3: real trouble.
- 23:34Speaker 1: Not probably, you are if this is.
- 23:36Speaker 3: A mirage based on some of the situations this UCF
- 23:39Speaker 3: defense was in and it's not too dissimilar to what
- 23:42Speaker 3: they were last year, and you can move it on them,
- 23:45Speaker 3: which will then open the pass and you protect the ball. Because,
- 23:48Speaker 3: by the way, that's a major part of this West
- 23:50Speaker 3: Virginia minus five turnover margin on the air, UCF minus four.
- 23:54Speaker 3: So these teams turn it over, which is why the
- 23:56Speaker 3: records for both teams are what they are. So can
- 23:59Speaker 3: you protect it, run it which then throws it and
- 24:01Speaker 3: have success scoring against UCF?
- 24:04Speaker 4: And but as you mentioned, can you get some things
- 24:07Speaker 4: that like Arizona State up because they had a block
- 24:09Speaker 4: pun for a touchdown and they had to pick six.
- 24:12Speaker 4: So that you say, you look at Arizona State the
- 24:14Speaker 4: Arizona State games, Boy, the stats look good for for
- 24:18Speaker 4: ucfgo well, okay, but they gave up fourteen points that way.
- 24:22Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I mean, there's more, but that kind of
- 24:28Speaker 3: encapsulates all the stories.
- 24:29Speaker 1: That's great stuff. Stop the run and run it, which
- 24:34Speaker 1: which is basically turnover bet. West Virginia hasnt won a
- 24:36Speaker 1: game this year where they've lost the turnover battle. They've
- 24:38Speaker 1: won the games they've won the turnover battle.
- 24:39Speaker 3: Yeah, all that other stuff is window dressing to win
- 24:42Speaker 3: the turnover battle and you probably win right at the
- 24:45Speaker 3: end of the day. That's what a lot of this
- 24:46Speaker 3: season is long down to that.
- 24:48Speaker 1: You needed a longer segment than just saying that. For
- 24:50Speaker 1: Conley CPA, you could have said that and said, okay,
- 24:52Speaker 1: we're out.
- 24:52Speaker 3: Oh we try and just give some other points, because
- 24:54Speaker 3: really the one key is don't turn it over, and
- 24:56Speaker 3: you get some turnovers.
- 24:57Speaker 1: That's pretty amazing.
- 24:58Speaker 2: Though.
- 24:58Speaker 1: Harvey's numbers so like it's just playing odds, Like why
- 25:03Speaker 1: wouldn't you just Okay, his big half is his first half,
- 25:06Speaker 1: his big quarter is his second quarter. Like literally, you
- 25:09Speaker 1: have to outnumber them. Now they'll try to run it.
- 25:11Speaker 1: I would think right back in the day when rich
- 25:14Speaker 1: was here, you know what he was going to do
- 25:16Speaker 1: teams without number you in the box, it's we're still
- 25:18Speaker 1: going to run. They'll probably try to do that because
- 25:21Speaker 1: they feel that's what they do, right, So pretty simple
- 25:25Speaker 1: to figure it out.
- 25:25Speaker 3: And guys, they're scoring points. So that's the thing here,
- 25:28Speaker 3: you're not with this defense, you're likely not going to
- 25:32Speaker 3: shut them completely down. Here's the points that they have scored,
- 25:35Speaker 3: going in reverse order from last week at Arizona State
- 25:38Speaker 3: thirty one. They put fifty six on Arizona twenty four
- 25:41Speaker 3: against that good BYU defense thirty five. They struggled against
- 25:45Speaker 3: Cincinnata and Florida thirteen thirteen, twenty one against Colorado with
- 25:49Speaker 3: a good defense there's TCU struggle in defense thirty five.
- 25:53Speaker 1: Where was Cincinnati at Cincy no home? Yeah, it was
- 25:56Speaker 1: all you see if and they only got thirteen.
- 26:00Speaker 3: So there you go. There's your keys. You saying to
- 26:04Speaker 3: the run and get after the quarterback and.
- 26:06Speaker 2: Confuse sounds very similar to we do in other games.
- 26:11Speaker 2: That was Virginia play stop.
- 26:12Speaker 3: The run, get more turnovers and just you know again
- 26:17Speaker 3: you're looking for some consistency.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Consistency, complimentary football.
- 26:20Speaker 3: It's the biggest thing. When the defense has had its
- 26:23Speaker 3: moments when it's good, the offense has disappeared. When the
- 26:25Speaker 3: offense has been rolling, the defense has disappeared. Outside of
- 26:28Speaker 3: that Oklahoma State game right now, again, you kind of
- 26:31Speaker 3: are what you are by game ten. So I think
- 26:33Speaker 3: to sit here and say, hey, you got to be
- 26:35Speaker 3: consistent all the way through. That's probably asking too much,
- 26:37Speaker 3: But can you do enough on each of those areas
- 26:40Speaker 3: to play more consistent than you've been and get out
- 26:43Speaker 3: of here and finish the home season.
- 26:44Speaker 1: With a win.
- 26:45Speaker 2: Yeah.
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- 27:39Speaker 4: Can I make a couple obser obvious observations about the
- 27:42Speaker 4: basketball game last night?
- 27:43Speaker 1: The place we'd love to thank you?
- 27:45Speaker 2: Number one?
- 27:46Speaker 4: We already talked about good bounce back, you know, not lethargic,
- 27:50Speaker 4: serious bounce back, played well made shots, didn't let your
- 27:53Speaker 4: foot off the gas. And you know what you see
- 27:55Speaker 4: with this team a lot, Brad. You see the extra
- 27:57Speaker 4: pass right.
- 27:58Speaker 3: That's been a hallmark so far? Are yes?
- 28:00Speaker 2: See the extra pass to get a shot.
- 28:02Speaker 4: I really like Jonathan Powell coming in making shots. Cooled
- 28:06Speaker 4: off but came in, made some shots right, Yes, helped
- 28:08Speaker 4: extend that lead. Javon Small five assists, one turnover, that's
- 28:13Speaker 4: a good ratio.
- 28:13Speaker 3: Right, five rebounds, four steals too. Yeah, pretty go out
- 28:17Speaker 3: to go at twenty three points.
- 28:18Speaker 4: So I just thought, I mean, yeah, you're gonna beat Iona,
- 28:21Speaker 4: you should beat them. But it seemed like a fundamentally
- 28:25Speaker 4: solid performance fair, yes, and fair.
- 28:29Speaker 3: And better I'm sorry, Tony, better than fundamentally sound. I
- 28:31Speaker 3: mean that was an A plus performance.
- 28:32Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exactly. So there's at this point in the
- 28:36Speaker 1: year what you look for, I think in these non
- 28:39Speaker 1: conference games is, you know, the significant outcome is you're
- 28:44Speaker 1: going to win the game. How you win the game
- 28:48Speaker 1: tells you, I think a good bit about what you
- 28:50Speaker 1: will do when your conference starts. So if you squeak
- 28:54Speaker 1: in these games in November and December by teams that
- 28:57Speaker 1: you know, okay, you win by eighty nine, that normally
- 29:02Speaker 1: means ass kickings. When you get into your conference, when
- 29:05Speaker 1: you when you when you put forty plus on somebody else,
- 29:09Speaker 1: that's that's a good that's a good vibe, good indication. Okay, yes,
- 29:14Speaker 1: they corrected a lot of things. So one thing, again,
- 29:16Speaker 1: we're just learning and starting to figure out this staff.
- 29:21Speaker 1: The one thing I took away from the pit game
- 29:25Speaker 1: is obviously they're not used to losing. The staff is
- 29:29Speaker 1: not used to losing. It is extremely upsetting to them collectively.
- 29:35Speaker 1: And they immediately dive into okay, we're fixing something like
- 29:41Speaker 1: right now, not like an let's see how things go.
- 29:44Speaker 1: It's like, this is exactly what we're changing. This is
- 29:46Speaker 1: exactly what we're doing. And then they go out there
- 29:48Speaker 1: and they brought it to the court last night and
- 29:51Speaker 1: it works. Now. I like all of those things. I
- 29:52Speaker 1: love people that don't you know, that hate to lose.
- 29:55Speaker 1: That's really good. And then immediately go why did we lose?
- 29:58Speaker 1: And now we're going to fix it now. Now with
- 30:01Speaker 1: all that said, keep in mind next week in the Bahamas,
- 30:08Speaker 1: who you're going to play, You're going to get a
- 30:13Speaker 1: feel of what your league schedule is going to be like.
- 30:16Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily know if this team should be
- 30:19Speaker 1: putting itself to figure out where it is in the
- 30:21Speaker 1: league schedule yet, maybe like three weeks from now, like
- 30:25Speaker 1: third week of December, you can kind of start to
- 30:27Speaker 1: get a feel. In a perfect world, I would have
- 30:29Speaker 1: liked to see them play some more of these games,
- 30:32Speaker 1: like mid major games, just to kind of get a
- 30:34Speaker 1: feel in a bounce. So you just hope as they
- 30:37Speaker 1: go to play these big boys next week that they're
- 30:41Speaker 1: able to obviously compete and learn and get themselves right,
- 30:47Speaker 1: because they will be able to come home play some
- 30:49Speaker 1: games that they're expected to win before they go back
- 30:52Speaker 1: out and start playing them for real.
- 30:53Speaker 3: Basketball does allow you to do that, right. They allow
- 30:56Speaker 3: you and they reward you for playing these difficult games
- 30:59Speaker 3: even when they're not wins. That's what I do like
- 31:01Speaker 3: about college basketball has got a lot wrong with it,
- 31:03Speaker 3: but it has figured out that model where it's not
- 31:06Speaker 3: just win and beat anybody that's on your schedule, and
- 31:08Speaker 3: we're not going to talk about schedule strength until it
- 31:10Speaker 3: affects the sec Then sudden we're gonna worry about schedule strength.
- 31:13Speaker 3: Basketball rewards you for some of these but you're right,
- 31:15Speaker 3: this is still a group that's still learning how to play.
- 31:17Speaker 3: To to give you a add on to a couple
- 31:19Speaker 3: of things you said there in what you're looking for
- 31:22Speaker 3: program wise down the road and what you have in
- 31:25Speaker 3: Darren de freeze. You're right on what you just said.
- 31:27Speaker 3: There a couple real world examples of that practice last week.
- 31:32Speaker 3: When I say he cranked up the intensity, it's not
- 31:35Speaker 3: a fake artificial cranked the intensity. He could have got
- 31:39Speaker 3: out in some drills and I'm surprised he didn't pull
- 31:43Speaker 3: a hamstring at times moving around on the court like that.
- 31:45Speaker 3: When he cranks the intensity with himself, that instantly the
- 31:49Speaker 3: temperature in the room goes up and you get guys
- 31:51Speaker 3: going at it. I mean they went hard last week.
- 31:54Speaker 3: So he's interactive coaching, is what he's interactive coaching, and
- 31:57Speaker 3: guys know like, Okay, he's not screwing around here like this.
- 32:00Speaker 3: Either we get going or we're in some trouble here
- 32:02Speaker 3: and they get after it. It's some really hard practices
- 32:05Speaker 3: to build that get used to hard competitive practices. Then
- 32:09Speaker 3: you come over to the game. That's one number two,
- 32:11Speaker 3: and I'm gonna get into this in a minute. He
- 32:13Speaker 3: reacted offensively, and the staff did from okay, Pitt did
- 32:16Speaker 3: a couple of things to us with Tucker in particular,
- 32:20Speaker 3: and we better figure out a way to make sure
- 32:22Speaker 3: that doesn't happen again. And they immediately Hoppy reacted with
- 32:25Speaker 3: some new offensive sets last night that completely flip like okay,
- 32:28Speaker 3: now teams looking on film go, okay, now we got
- 32:31Speaker 3: a choice. Now we got a choice, and that's what
- 32:33Speaker 3: you're looking for. The shots don't always go in, but
- 32:35Speaker 3: if you're putting stress on the defense in terms of
- 32:38Speaker 3: they've got to make a choice. Because what do we
- 32:40Speaker 3: say about West Virginia Pitt. They made a choice to say,
- 32:43Speaker 3: we're not gonna let you drive the ball to the basket,
- 32:44Speaker 3: which is what you want to do. You don't want
- 32:46Speaker 3: to shoot a lot of threes. If you make threes, Okay,
- 32:48Speaker 3: we got to live with that. And Pitt made those
- 32:50Speaker 3: shots and you had to live with it. West Virginia's
- 32:52Speaker 3: looking to do that and came right back with some
- 32:54Speaker 3: sets last night that I'll outline here in just a minute.
- 32:58Speaker 4: Also, it was good to see I own a press
- 33:01Speaker 4: because that's like practice, like you know, work against the press. Now,
- 33:04Speaker 4: you had sixteen turnovers, I think, but also you forced
- 33:06Speaker 4: twenty one turnovers. It was it was a good job
- 33:09Speaker 4: in forcing those turnovers. That was that defensive aggression you're
- 33:11Speaker 4: talking about, Brad.
- 33:13Speaker 1: And eight pretty well. Off of the turnovers that you force.
- 33:16Speaker 3: I'll give you some numbers there on that it was
- 33:17Speaker 3: it's pretty well, that's what this team does.
- 33:19Speaker 1: Yeah, so is this going to continue Conley CPA or
- 33:22Speaker 1: do you need to.
- 33:23Speaker 3: Is it a restart? I don't think you need the
- 33:25Speaker 3: music again. I think people know what's going to do
- 33:27Speaker 3: that Conley CPA spreads on sets. Okay, I don't think
- 33:29Speaker 3: you need anything. I know you like the music.
- 33:30Speaker 1: I'll segue time now for spreads on stats. Basketball version
- 33:35Speaker 1: brought to us by Conley CPA group. Brad take it away.
- 33:40Speaker 3: Let's start. Let's start on that defensive effort because that's
- 33:43Speaker 3: you know, that's what's kind of fun about this program now,
- 33:46Speaker 3: is you're trying to identify is this a defensive minded
- 33:49Speaker 3: program or an offensive minded because it starts with their
- 33:52Speaker 3: defense and the way they get after it. But it's
- 33:54Speaker 3: a it's an offense that as as it goes along,
- 33:57Speaker 3: I think you're going to be really impressed with the
- 33:59Speaker 3: stuff they run. But let's defensive side of the ball. First,
- 34:03Speaker 3: held Iona. We probably glossed over this a little bit
- 34:06Speaker 3: right there in our discussion. Held him to forty three
- 34:08Speaker 3: points on twenty three percent.
- 34:10Speaker 1: Shooting, twenty four percent shooting.
- 34:11Speaker 3: I mean outrageous. I don't know where he got go ahead.
- 34:15Speaker 3: I don't know where he got about.
- 34:16Speaker 1: He said after the game. Coach Devrees said after the game,
- 34:20Speaker 1: and I'm sure it came from an sid person. I
- 34:22Speaker 1: would the twenty three percent shot by Iona was the
- 34:25Speaker 1: worst they've shot in twenty years. Really, yeah, we could
- 34:29Speaker 1: research that absolutely got after him defensively, and that was
- 34:34Speaker 1: both and we'll talk about some individual performances that was
- 34:37Speaker 1: both from an individual guarding perspective and a team perspective.
- 34:42Speaker 3: The number that jumped out to me, though, how about
- 34:46Speaker 3: how about blocked shots? You realize have blocked eleven shots last.
- 34:50Speaker 1: Night, very very under the cover. You wouldn't notice that.
- 34:53Speaker 1: You really wouldn't wouldn't think, but you would think if
- 34:55Speaker 1: you were there or watch it that there were one
- 34:57Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two travels.
- 34:58Speaker 3: Lot of travels called. Yeah, but one of the best
- 35:01Speaker 3: block performances by a team in West Virginia history.
- 35:04Speaker 2: I had a number here.
- 35:05Speaker 3: I'll find it coming up in just a little bit.
- 35:07Speaker 3: Tells you how historic that was. But really really well done.
- 35:10Speaker 3: The turnovers were the big thing. Hope you mentioned those earlier.
- 35:13Speaker 3: H The turnovers were massive. Iona came into this one
- 35:17Speaker 3: as a team that turns it over, so this was
- 35:19Speaker 3: to be expected that they would have trouble with West
- 35:21Speaker 3: Virginia's defense. They were a bottom twenty team in terms
- 35:24Speaker 3: of turnover rate. When you talk about national rankings, West
- 35:27Speaker 3: Virginia came into the game as one of the best
- 35:29Speaker 3: in the country converting live ball turnovers while action is
- 35:33Speaker 3: happening into points. So West Virginia wasn't quite as efficient
- 35:37Speaker 3: as it had been in that area, but still very good.
- 35:40Speaker 3: One point three points per possession off live ball turnovers.
- 35:45Speaker 3: So that's really good. I've told you before one point
- 35:47Speaker 3: one points per possession usually leads the NCAA in efficient offense.
- 35:52Speaker 3: You were above that on this particular niche coming into
- 35:55Speaker 3: this game. Hop how about this for a number on
- 35:58Speaker 3: live ball turnover situations. When West Virginia got the ball,
- 36:01Speaker 3: it was eight of eleven from three on a live
- 36:04Speaker 3: ball turnover. So when Darren talks about the turnovers lead
- 36:08Speaker 3: to the offense and it gets you some easier shots,
- 36:09Speaker 3: that's what he's talking about. And you were blistering hot,
- 36:11Speaker 3: so you hit a couple of those last night. Westerning
- 36:15Speaker 3: was also really good off missed field goals from iona
- 36:18Speaker 3: one point four to two points per.
- 36:21Speaker 1: Possession, certainly a plenty of opportunity.
- 36:23Speaker 3: Yep, Westerda had five of its fifteen threes off a
- 36:27Speaker 3: missed Iona shot. And then the final number in that category,
- 36:30Speaker 3: the one that matters the most, West Virginia, with they
- 36:32Speaker 3: a plus nineteen in points off turnovers.
- 36:36Speaker 1: They were plus nineteen is correct twenty six to seven.
- 36:39Speaker 3: So basically thirty percent a third of West Virginia's points
- 36:42Speaker 3: came off of turnovers. So that was really the big
- 36:45Speaker 3: part of the game. Right there on the offensive side
- 36:47Speaker 3: of the ball. Don't need to tell you this, happy's
- 36:49Speaker 3: obvious observation here. Made fifteen threes, shot forty eight percent
- 36:53Speaker 3: from three point land. You do that, regardless of anything
- 36:56Speaker 3: else you do, you're probably gonna win a lot of games.
- 36:58Speaker 3: They did that. Entering the game, Iona's opponents had shot
- 37:01Speaker 3: fifty percent from the right wing three right wing three hoppy, Okay,
- 37:06Speaker 3: that'd be in an area you could exploit. Oh, West
- 37:09Speaker 3: Virginia exploited. It got fourteen threes from that area, made
- 37:13Speaker 3: eight of them fifty seven percent from the right wing three.
- 37:17Speaker 3: So really well done. Let's talk about moving the ball. Well,
- 37:19Speaker 3: hop that you mentioned had fifteen assists basically a fifty
- 37:22Speaker 3: percent assist straight, so you assists on one of every
- 37:24Speaker 3: two baskets. That's good. Nine of those assists came on
- 37:28Speaker 3: above the break threes, which are shots that are not
- 37:30Speaker 3: in the corner, a three from the wings or the
- 37:33Speaker 3: top of the key. So nine threes up there. That
- 37:37Speaker 3: was what West Virginia hit. A total of thirteen from
- 37:40Speaker 3: that area. Thirteen of the fifteen were from above the break.
- 37:43Speaker 3: Nine of the thirteen came with assists. Most of those
- 37:46Speaker 3: were off that extra pass, passing up a good shot
- 37:49Speaker 3: for a great shot and you knock that down. West
- 37:53Speaker 3: Virginia because of that ball movement, had twenty four points
- 37:57Speaker 3: on unguarded catch and shoots. That was a season high.
- 38:01Speaker 3: Had twenty catch and shoot jumpers for the game. Sixteen
- 38:04Speaker 3: of them were unguarded. That's a massive number. You probably
- 38:08Speaker 3: won't see that the rest of the season, but that
- 38:10Speaker 3: was really good. Led to points. Guys are making open shots, hop,
- 38:13Speaker 3: so that was really good. Let's talk for a second
- 38:16Speaker 3: about the added wrinkle that came in last night from
- 38:19Speaker 3: coach Devrees and staff trying to react to what are
- 38:22Speaker 3: teams doing to Tucker and Javon And those are two
- 38:25Speaker 3: guys that you want to do well with Tony, what
- 38:27Speaker 3: do you need with Tucker and Javon?
- 38:29Speaker 1: You need to have him score a lot of points
- 38:30Speaker 1: and get a lot of shots.
- 38:31Speaker 3: There you go, And that was evident right from the
- 38:33Speaker 3: beginning with Javon. He was as aggressive as he's been
- 38:36Speaker 3: offensively for his looking for his shots and they had
- 38:39Speaker 3: no answer for him. And a lot of that was
- 38:41Speaker 3: due to what Tucker was helping him with him and
- 38:43Speaker 3: a couple of the sets hops. They would come down
- 38:46Speaker 3: and kind of clear everybody out and play a two
- 38:48Speaker 3: man game with Tucker and Javon. So you've got your
- 38:50Speaker 3: two best offensive players putting some stress on the defense
- 38:53Speaker 3: on like, Okay, what do you boys want to do,
- 38:55Speaker 3: because we're going to react to you and Tucker. By
- 38:58Speaker 3: the way, we'll talk more about Tucker. He is sneaky
- 39:01Speaker 3: good in a lot of areas. His ability to set
- 39:03Speaker 3: a good, solid screen, like some guys go over and
- 39:05Speaker 3: they kind of just I'm gonna I'm supposed to have screen,
- 39:07Speaker 3: but I'm not really gonna hit you. I mean, he
- 39:08Speaker 3: has a base and he's like gonna deliver a hit.
- 39:11Speaker 3: He sets some of.
- 39:12Speaker 1: The great chounce to the family jeans his uncle played
- 39:14Speaker 1: in the NFL. Long time, long time NFL guy. Yeah,
- 39:17Speaker 1: I'll Tucker, I hit you right in the mouth. Yeah.
- 39:19Speaker 3: So he gets some good screens. So now all of
- 39:20Speaker 3: a sudden, you got Tucker setting a screen and Javon
- 39:22Speaker 3: coming off. So if it's available, you just step around
- 39:25Speaker 3: it and you hit the three. If if they kind
- 39:27Speaker 3: of jump out, then Small goes right by him. If
- 39:29Speaker 3: you want to jump on Small after he's burned you
- 39:32Speaker 3: a couple of times, Tucker is right there for the
- 39:34Speaker 3: open shots. So the direct result was, let's put our
- 39:37Speaker 3: two best offensive players in a two man game. Everybody
- 39:40Speaker 3: else clear out and let them trying to decide how
- 39:42Speaker 3: you're going to guard these two really subtle, nice little
- 39:45Speaker 3: wrinkle there to get you a few shots when he
- 39:47Speaker 3: needed some baskets. I like that a lot. West Virginia
- 39:51Speaker 3: turnover wise too many, Hoppy, You mentioned the number too many.
- 39:55Speaker 3: Some of that came on a press. Some of that
- 39:56Speaker 3: came on guys just getting sped up when they didn't
- 39:58Speaker 3: need to. They'll learn from that. But iona couldn't convert
- 40:02Speaker 3: many of those live ball turnovers. That's the biggest part
- 40:04Speaker 3: of this. Nine of the fifteen turnovers for West Virginia
- 40:07Speaker 3: were live ball turnovers, but I own a averaged just
- 40:11Speaker 3: zero point five to six points per possession on those,
- 40:15Speaker 3: so they got seven over.
- 40:16Speaker 1: They got seven points the whole game off turn on
- 40:18Speaker 1: sixteen turn it was only scored seven points.
- 40:19Speaker 3: Very good, So that was a big area.
- 40:21Speaker 1: I know.
- 40:22Speaker 3: Rebounding is a concern, we talk about it every week.
- 40:24Speaker 3: West Virginia was even for the first half in rebounding,
- 40:27Speaker 3: so they held right in there. But some interesting numbers.
- 40:29Speaker 3: Iona out rebounds West Virginia on the offensive glass, but
- 40:33Speaker 3: West Virginia finishes with more second chance points. So yes,
- 40:37Speaker 3: you gave up more offensive rebounds than you wanted, but
- 40:39Speaker 3: those turned intwo points from West Virginia. All right, you
- 40:43Speaker 3: want to talk some individual performances.
- 40:44Speaker 1: Well, I want to get back to the blocks. Oh
- 40:46Speaker 1: go ahead, you got my No, you wetted my appetite.
- 40:49Speaker 1: So eleven uh huh. That kind of ranks up there
- 40:52Speaker 1: high for West Virginia all time in a game. And
- 40:55Speaker 1: it does and you didn't walk away thinking that they
- 40:58Speaker 1: had blocked it. Why was that? Because a lot of
- 41:00Speaker 1: stuff and just kind of flurries around the rim.
- 41:03Speaker 3: It flurries around the rim a lot of the balls
- 41:04Speaker 3: stayed in play. I mean Tucker got three blocks for you. Yeah,
- 41:09Speaker 3: did you go back and do the last time? Since
- 41:10Speaker 3: I will go ahead to do it because I did
- 41:12Speaker 3: it and I can't find it in my notes, that's fine.
- 41:14Speaker 3: I got It's pretty amazing. Okay, you want to do
- 41:17Speaker 3: some individual performances while you're looking for that hope you
- 41:20Speaker 3: mentioned Javon, Yeah, just really good again, aggressive early, couldn't
- 41:25Speaker 3: guard him. Twenty three five rebounds, five as says, four steals.
- 41:28Speaker 3: He was excellent. Tucker well rounded.
- 41:30Speaker 2: Again.
- 41:30Speaker 3: I mentioned what he did away from the ball. He
- 41:32Speaker 3: does a great job to defensively, great positioning and gets
- 41:37Speaker 3: his hands in there and pokes a lot of balls away.
- 41:39Speaker 3: So sometimes he doesn't end up with the steel numbers,
- 41:42Speaker 3: but steals happened for the team. Wegina had ton of those.
- 41:45Speaker 4: There was one instance where it was in the first
- 41:47Speaker 4: half and I owned to come down to court and
- 41:50Speaker 4: the player with the ball turned his back on the
- 41:54Speaker 4: defense and here comes Tucker comes off, quick, takes the ball,
- 41:59Speaker 4: goes down to the court super high.
- 42:00Speaker 3: IQ both ends with four eleven steals for West Virginia
- 42:03Speaker 3: last night too, So he was really good. You mentioned
- 42:06Speaker 3: Jonathan Powell. He really came in and West Virginia started
- 42:09Speaker 3: a little cold the first four minutes and the first
- 42:11Speaker 3: media time outcomes. Here comes JP in there and was
- 42:14Speaker 3: just Tony said it right, shot out of a cannon. Yeah,
- 42:17Speaker 3: I mean he was rolling, popped a couple of threes,
- 42:19Speaker 3: had a dunk in there, and really ignited the offense
- 42:22Speaker 3: at that point, and then it took off and ran
- 42:25Speaker 3: and again he was very good in the first half.
- 42:27Speaker 3: He's starting to do what you need him to do.
- 42:30Speaker 3: He's hit six of thirteen on guarded jumpers in the
- 42:34Speaker 3: last two games. So his challenge will be moving forward.
- 42:37Speaker 3: I mean, he can really shoot it. You know who
- 42:39Speaker 3: else knows now he can really shoot it. Yes, everybody
- 42:42Speaker 3: at the way, So they're going to have to Now.
- 42:44Speaker 3: The next evolution of the offense is find ways when
- 42:47Speaker 3: teams run him off the three point line that he
- 42:49Speaker 3: can step inside and hit some of those or set
- 42:52Speaker 3: up somebody else because he's drawing attention out now when
- 42:55Speaker 3: he gets the ball. Thought Amani Hansbury gave you some
- 42:58Speaker 3: good minutes last one point from a double double, nine points,
- 43:01Speaker 3: ten rebounds, biggest thing for him. Two of four from
- 43:04Speaker 3: three point last Land last night. That's critical for this
- 43:07Speaker 3: offense hot because you want the other teams to know
- 43:09Speaker 3: he can do that. That changes their defensive approach when
- 43:13Speaker 3: they have to come out on him. How about Sincere Harris,
- 43:16Speaker 3: We're gonna do this every week, guys. He just lined
- 43:19Speaker 3: up again against their point guard, a nice New York
- 43:21Speaker 3: City point guard. He comes in, says, you know what,
- 43:23Speaker 3: watch this, watch me go. Sincere says, that's that right?
- 43:25Speaker 2: Is that right?
- 43:26Speaker 1: Is that right?
- 43:27Speaker 3: Held him two to twelve shooting and just effectively shut
- 43:30Speaker 3: down their offense again because it's so hard to initiate
- 43:33Speaker 3: your stuff when he's guarding you.
- 43:35Speaker 1: No.
- 43:35Speaker 4: I think one of the stories of this team, what
- 43:38Speaker 4: you've seen so far, is you will play teams in
- 43:41Speaker 4: this league obviously that are better than you, but you
- 43:44Speaker 4: want going into the game where the other team's thinking.
- 43:47Speaker 2: Oh, we got to play these guys. Oh man, yeah,
- 43:50Speaker 2: just keep coming.
- 43:51Speaker 4: They're gonna be the well coached they're gonna make you
- 43:55Speaker 4: know you want. You want them to be aggravated by
- 43:57Speaker 4: having to play you.
- 43:58Speaker 3: Right, Yes, that's right, And I do think that's going
- 44:00Speaker 3: to catch some teams at certain points when the you
- 44:04Speaker 3: know you're in that travel grind. It's col you're coming out. Okay,
- 44:06Speaker 3: here we go. We're gonna beat them there if they're strong,
- 44:08Speaker 3: and then you just come out and jump them. I
- 44:10Speaker 3: do think that's in play this year. A couple other performances,
- 44:13Speaker 3: then we'll move on to the next part here. I
- 44:15Speaker 3: thought Tobyocanne did a nice job last night of you're
- 44:18Speaker 3: looking for guys to contribute in different ways. You had
- 44:21Speaker 3: the scoring covered last night, you had that on ball
- 44:23Speaker 3: defense covered one of the big areas. Iona with that
- 44:26Speaker 3: number three offensive rebounding rate coming in, you needed to
- 44:29Speaker 3: counteract that and hang into that part of the game.
- 44:32Speaker 3: Tobyo Kanne gave you five offensive rebounds last night, and
- 44:35Speaker 3: you saw more than once an offensive rebounding by somebody
- 44:38Speaker 3: from West Virginia be at Eduardo Andre or Toby that
- 44:41Speaker 3: then kicked it out for an open three. Those are
- 44:44Speaker 3: huge hop If you can get offensive rebound, kick it
- 44:46Speaker 3: out and get three, that's a big time. So that
- 44:48Speaker 3: was good. And then finally, certainly last but not least,
- 44:51Speaker 3: the second best shooter in Western Mooin Valley High school history,
- 44:55Speaker 3: Jake Auer comes off the bench bangs home two three.
- 44:58Speaker 3: So that was kind of a fun moment there at
- 44:59Speaker 3: the end.
- 44:59Speaker 1: Of second only to you, right, he gets he gets
- 45:02Speaker 1: awfully nervous when he actually he gets very excited when
- 45:05Speaker 1: his high school, when his high school boy goes out there,
- 45:07Speaker 1: he gets giddy when he sees him five.
- 45:09Speaker 3: You know how cool that is for him. Yeah, to
- 45:12Speaker 3: come up play four years and had a really good
- 45:13Speaker 3: college career, then come get to be a part of
- 45:15Speaker 3: this program at this level and then get in games
- 45:17Speaker 3: and make a couple of shots in the coliseum.
- 45:19Speaker 2: So that's neat.
- 45:20Speaker 1: After the game was over, I saw you walk down
- 45:23Speaker 1: and talk with the IONA coach. You guys. He was
- 45:26Speaker 1: from Iowa year from you guys, did some kind of
- 45:29Speaker 1: an Iowa handshake. What was that all about him?
- 45:31Speaker 3: Well said, just said hello, he was disappointed his team
- 45:34Speaker 3: didn't play better, thinks they're going to get better throughout
- 45:36Speaker 3: the year, and just reminisce a little bit about high school.
- 45:38Speaker 3: He's writing my age brackets. So do you remembered a
- 45:39Speaker 3: couple of guys I played with?
- 45:40Speaker 1: Did you id where he lived? Because we couldn't find it,
- 45:43Speaker 1: like on a map where it was.
- 45:44Speaker 3: We could not, But I have heard of the high school.
- 45:46Speaker 3: What was Interstate thirty five High school.
- 45:48Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that hoppey for a high school name?
- 45:50Speaker 1: Interstate thirty five High School.
- 45:51Speaker 2: Well, they run out of names, run out of present.
- 45:54Speaker 3: I think it's pretty well done. Like where's the location
- 45:55Speaker 3: we got to go to a road game played Interstate
- 45:57Speaker 3: thirty five High School?
- 45:58Speaker 2: Whereas say, thirty five is a long road into any place.
- 46:00Speaker 3: Go south of Des Moines is off thirty five.
- 46:02Speaker 1: Apparently apparently PS one twenty two was gone.
- 46:06Speaker 4: It's becoming evident that Iowa is sort of the midwest
- 46:10Speaker 4: West Virginia.
- 46:12Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Well he got excited because I was watching.
- 46:15Speaker 2: Now if you went up and like, oh, you're from Michigan,
- 46:18Speaker 2: I'm from Michigan. Yeah, so what you know? I mean
- 46:21Speaker 2: like Iowa?
- 46:21Speaker 3: Do you know? So many times there's a lot of similarities.
- 46:24Speaker 3: We do talk about this a lot, and we say
- 46:25Speaker 3: Iowa state fans Westernian fans very similar.
- 46:27Speaker 1: There is.
- 46:28Speaker 3: It's it's not like what there's no place like West
- 46:30Speaker 3: Virginia always a western there is, but there is some
- 46:33Speaker 3: of that yeaheah, there are some of that.
- 46:34Speaker 2: Did you get into I'm sorry to get into like
- 46:36Speaker 2: do you know so?
- 46:37Speaker 3: And so he did? I mean one of the guys
- 46:39Speaker 3: that was our our star player one of my younger
- 46:41Speaker 3: high school years that ended up being a Division one
- 46:43Speaker 3: player Vanderbilt and Iowa State. He said, oh, I remember
- 46:46Speaker 3: I remember Morgan Wheat he goes you probably played, and
- 46:48Speaker 3: I said I did.
- 46:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a West Virginia thing yesterday. Chris Wallace
- 46:52Speaker 2: came by.
- 46:53Speaker 1: Yeah, I looked in your office and I saw by
- 46:55Speaker 1: the back of a head Chris it was Chris. I
- 46:58Speaker 1: didn't realize because wall so uh, we started to come
- 47:01Speaker 1: down and see us. He scouted the game for the
- 47:03Speaker 1: Rockets last night. He doesn't come down and see us.
- 47:05Speaker 2: Yeah, why didn't he come down? Pace Resplint didn't.
- 47:06Speaker 3: Get that was yesterday? Yeah, yeah, totally missed that.
- 47:10Speaker 1: Well, when he missed us, he could come down. He
- 47:12Speaker 1: sees where we are. What's up with him? Haughty Buckchannon?
- 47:16Speaker 3: Guy, he's what he is and text him say his
- 47:18Speaker 3: show's over.
- 47:19Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we did a Buck Cannon thing. Or do
- 47:21Speaker 2: you know? I guess you know who he knows my
- 47:24Speaker 2: neighbor Chuck.
- 47:26Speaker 3: Has he borrowed anything from Chock?
- 47:27Speaker 4: He hasn't, but he knows him, Like, do you know
- 47:29Speaker 4: Chuck here? Oh yeah, I played basketball. I was a
- 47:31Speaker 4: couple of years young about play basketball. Yeah, whole buck
- 47:33Speaker 4: Cannon thing.
- 47:34Speaker 1: He was fascinated by you, like he was so excited
- 47:37Speaker 1: to meet you. He did.
- 47:39Speaker 3: That's why he didn't talk to us.
- 47:40Speaker 1: Yeah, he got literally he used me to set the meeting.
- 47:43Speaker 2: Up and then I hung for We hung for like
- 47:45Speaker 2: an hour.
- 47:46Speaker 1: He just wanted to talk straight politics, didn't he y,
- 47:48Speaker 1: But it was it was fast. When we give you
- 47:50Speaker 1: give you a lot of John Kennedy in West Virginia,
- 47:52Speaker 1: and he gave us.
- 47:53Speaker 4: He gave me some great stories about because he was
- 47:55Speaker 4: involved in politics growing up, his dad was involved in politics.
- 47:58Speaker 4: He wanted to talk politics. I want a NBA stories.
- 48:01Speaker 4: So we were going back and forth. Yeah, it was
- 48:02Speaker 4: a good exchange. He doesn't share much on the NBA.
- 48:04Speaker 3: That's those guys can't push and poll with Chris all
- 48:07Speaker 3: the time.
- 48:07Speaker 1: They can't say much.
- 48:08Speaker 2: Oh we got a little bit, yeah, a little bit.
- 48:10Speaker 2: He's now with the you've done lost leading scout for Rockets.
- 48:15Speaker 1: Rockets. Yeah, well we'll have you know what we'll eat
- 48:18Speaker 1: with him. He got a great seafood place. When we
- 48:20Speaker 1: go down there and play.
- 48:21Speaker 3: He can talk to us. If Hoppy's not with us.
- 48:23Speaker 1: Well maybe we have to call in and get an.
- 48:25Speaker 2: Appointment, or well I'm going to try to come.
- 48:27Speaker 1: Yeah, we're busy that night.
- 48:32Speaker 2: Oh well already.
- 48:33Speaker 1: Seriously, seriously, there's a great seafood restaurant that he's brought
- 48:37Speaker 1: me to.
- 48:38Speaker 4: We got we'll go there. It's really well, it's it's
- 48:40Speaker 4: in February, right, Yeah. I asked him yesterday.
- 48:43Speaker 2: If I kind of you know, I said, hey, I
- 48:46Speaker 2: might like to come up.
- 48:47Speaker 1: He'll take care of you. He'll take care of you. Uh.
- 48:50Speaker 1: The fact there is an NBA game the night before
- 48:51Speaker 1: the game in Houston.
- 48:53Speaker 2: Really yeah.
- 48:53Speaker 1: We got a chance to see three games this year.
- 48:55Speaker 1: See two.
- 48:56Speaker 2: What's the date on that?
- 48:57Speaker 1: I don't know. I just played one game at a time. Hot.
- 49:01Speaker 1: Seven times in West Virginia basketball history have the Mountaineers
- 49:04Speaker 1: blocked more than eleven shots elevens a lot, so the
- 49:08Speaker 1: all time record in case you're wondering. Nineteen eighty two,
- 49:11Speaker 1: West Virginia played Ohio Wesleyan and blocked fourteen. They blocked
- 49:16Speaker 1: thirteen and twenty eighteen, with the Sagabaw Cante leading the parade.
- 49:21Speaker 1: They blocked twelve against pitt in eighteen, with SAgs getting
- 49:25Speaker 1: seven blocks in that game, and then twelve against Bowling Green,
- 49:28Speaker 1: Saint Bonnie and Drexel back in nineteen eighty. So eleven
- 49:32Speaker 1: is a big, big number number. It is all right,
- 49:35Speaker 1: very good, You guys are ready to do some healing.
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- 50:46Speaker 4: rod slim gym a couple of weeks ago.
- 50:47Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
- 50:49Speaker 1: Yes, yes they do.
- 50:53Speaker 2: No, it ended up in my salad.
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- 51:00Speaker 3: You cut it up in your salad?
- 51:01Speaker 2: No?
- 51:02Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's not right, not salad in My
- 51:04Speaker 4: wife made a homemade pizza. Myfe made a homemad pizza.
- 51:08Speaker 4: Life is a good cook and she made homey pizza.
- 51:10Speaker 4: I'm about halfway through the pizza and she said, I
- 51:12Speaker 4: like the pepperoni. I said, it's the wishous why? She said,
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- 51:18Speaker 1: Very resourceful, very resourceful. Well done, Karen.
- 51:22Speaker 4: That's very very The pieces were smaller, I wasn't, but
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- 51:27Speaker 3: The wild thing is you got nine pizzas out of it.
- 51:30Speaker 3: Because it's so long.
- 51:33Speaker 1: Time for textual healing on three guys before the game.
- 51:36Speaker 1: Brought to us by episode eight hundred dot com. No,
- 51:41Speaker 1: there will not be a food court before the UCF game,
- 51:45Speaker 1: but we will have our first ever ever ever ever
- 51:53Speaker 1: speak Easy. It's don't take place tomorrow night in Morgantown.
- 51:57Speaker 1: Every ticket that was available so over one hundred. So yeah,
- 52:00Speaker 1: let's just say one hundred for fairmath was presented and
- 52:06Speaker 1: it will be given away. Here's some of the notes
- 52:09Speaker 1: that we have. People are going to be attending from Charleston,
- 52:13Speaker 1: South Carolina, Atlanta, Dallas, Chicago, New Orleans, Denver, Cincinnati, Columbus, Cleveland, Charlotte, Pittsburgh, Washington,
- 52:20Speaker 1: d C. And of course the immediate area. And also
- 52:24Speaker 1: very likely we'll have foreign foreign friends with us from
- 52:28Speaker 1: the continent of Australia. Yes, So what we're doing is
- 52:33Speaker 1: we're raising money for Ava May and the Lillard family
- 52:38Speaker 1: and continuing to contribute to Hudson Clement's fundraising efforts for
- 52:42Speaker 1: Ava who is battling cancer. And the money that we
- 52:46Speaker 1: raise will be made in this donation and we'll have
- 52:51Speaker 1: food there. Hudson's dad, Mike, will perform. And didn't realize this.
- 52:57Speaker 1: Dave told me this this week. Hudson's dad's also a
- 52:59Speaker 1: camp it's our survivor.
- 53:00Speaker 2: I did not know that.
- 53:01Speaker 1: Yeah, right when Hudson was transitioning to from high school
- 53:05Speaker 1: to college. So we will match dollars and we will
- 53:10Speaker 1: have a special night. Beer will be available from our
- 53:13Speaker 1: connection three h four beer from Parkersburg Brewing Company, and
- 53:17Speaker 1: we really look forward to it. So thanks to everyone
- 53:20Speaker 1: for helping out. We're going to do this thing tomorrow night.
- 53:22Speaker 1: Hop he'll have the first shift, and then we're going
- 53:25Speaker 1: to be there after sportslight. We might even try to
- 53:27Speaker 1: run in there at like from a five to like
- 53:29Speaker 1: five forty oh good, then run back over here to
- 53:33Speaker 1: the show, then run back over there.
- 53:35Speaker 2: We'd love to have you. Yeah, we can find it.
- 53:38Speaker 1: Double secret knock to get in all right, textual healing.
- 53:44Speaker 1: First off, special thank you to Angie.
- 53:46Speaker 2: Is that one of those things where you knock on
- 53:47Speaker 2: the door, like, yes, who wants to know?
- 53:49Speaker 1: They slide open the door? We do? What's the password? Gentlemen?
- 53:54Speaker 1: As the holiday season comes upon us, just wanted to
- 53:58Speaker 1: say thanks for all you do from out to nation.
- 54:00Speaker 1: You send joy to us fans all through the year.
- 54:03Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy my gingerbread pittzels. They were always
- 54:06Speaker 1: my Popa's favorite. I think they pair well with a
- 54:09Speaker 1: fresh cup of daily grind coffee. Yeah, I agree with that.
- 54:13Speaker 1: By the way, we got a situation, what situation? Need
- 54:18Speaker 1: to head it off at the pass? What well, our
- 54:21Speaker 1: great listeners who are in love with this Mountaineer Munch
- 54:25Speaker 1: popcorn made by Mountaineer Popcorn. Yeah, in the in Shepherdstown.
- 54:30Speaker 1: Apparently the folks at the business there in Shepherdstown have
- 54:35Speaker 1: been inundated by people going there asking to buy the
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- 55:05Speaker 1: strongly suggest pair the two together for a great Christmas gift.
- 55:10Speaker 3: All right, let's go episode eight hundred dot com. Is
- 55:12Speaker 3: what you're saying, Head there to get the pops.
- 55:13Speaker 1: Only place, Okay, Texter, My brother and I grew up
- 55:17Speaker 1: in Fairmount have lived in Florida for many years. We
- 55:19Speaker 1: try to attend at least one game per year at
- 55:22Speaker 1: our pre tailgate warm up at the Beanery before the
- 55:25Speaker 1: Iowa State game us aging au WV grads in our
- 55:28Speaker 1: seventies applaud the placing of the University of Texas auto
- 55:33Speaker 1: floor mats in the restroom with horns down in the
- 55:36Speaker 1: dribble zone. They do do that? See what they did there? Hot?
- 55:39Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 55:40Speaker 1: Wow, So that's uh. I think it says it all.
- 55:43Speaker 2: That's that's serious.
- 55:46Speaker 1: Zach and Timonium, Maryland.
- 55:48Speaker 2: First time we got in a picture with a journal
- 55:50Speaker 2: on the program.
- 55:51Speaker 1: Probably won't be the last.
- 55:52Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:53Speaker 1: I liked how you all broke down the dou WVU
- 55:55Speaker 1: and Baylor nil got me thinking, what is Indiana spending
- 55:59Speaker 1: on nil income? Harrison a program that struggled historically, now
- 56:03Speaker 1: top ten nationally and in the top two conference with
- 56:06Speaker 1: a new coach. He did bring a ton of players
- 56:09Speaker 1: with him, but he developed them. I think if you
- 56:11Speaker 1: have an nil problem, you better have a guy who
- 56:12Speaker 1: can develop players for cheap and keep them. Indiana's luck
- 56:16Speaker 1: will run out this weekend and we will have to
- 56:18Speaker 1: see if it's sustainable, but it feels like a blueprint
- 56:21Speaker 1: for West Virginia moving forward. Tony brad Hoppey incoming Steam release,
- 56:30Speaker 1: I have spent too much time on Twitter lately. I'm
- 56:33Speaker 1: absolutely disgusted by the things people say about you all
- 56:37Speaker 1: in the podcast because you are actually reasonable and won't
- 56:41Speaker 1: grab the pitchforks. As someone who works in higher education,
- 56:44Speaker 1: I also understand the position you're in because you work
- 56:47Speaker 1: for the university. I just had to take a moment
- 56:50Speaker 1: to say that I appreciate you all everything you do.
- 56:52Speaker 1: It's been hard to be a Mountaineer fan this season,
- 56:53Speaker 1: but the show's the only thing getting me through. I
- 56:55Speaker 1: know the noise doesn't bother you, as it's in the job,
- 56:58Speaker 1: but please remember you have lifelong supporters out there. PS.
- 57:04Speaker 1: I was invited as a guest at the Shaw House
- 57:06Speaker 1: the night of the gubernatorial debate at Fairmont State. I
- 57:10Speaker 1: was told Hoppy was going to be there. I was
- 57:12Speaker 1: really excited to meet him. It was my lifeline, lifetime
- 57:16Speaker 1: goal to meet Hoppy and I waited and waited and
- 57:19Speaker 1: waited waited, waited, waited, waited, waited, only to find out
- 57:22Speaker 1: that he would never show. I guess it's just not
- 57:25Speaker 1: three guys events that he doesn't always make it out to. Oh, well,
- 57:28Speaker 1: hopefully I'll get to meet him sometimes soon. Thanks for
- 57:32Speaker 1: having me, Spencer and Morgantown.
- 57:34Speaker 2: Well, the.
- 57:39Speaker 1: What it's just funny when you have to when you
- 57:42Speaker 1: get these, when you get these, it's beautiful.
- 57:45Speaker 4: Well, they had we we had the debate, sure, the
- 57:47Speaker 4: good Patrol debate at Fairmont State, and beforehand I was
- 57:51Speaker 4: around some but I'm kind.
- 57:52Speaker 1: Of you're locked.
- 57:54Speaker 2: In tight, right, And then.
- 58:00Speaker 4: Afterward there was a reception at the President's House that
- 58:03Speaker 4: was just like.
- 58:04Speaker 1: You gotta go. Yeah, you know, yeah, your head your
- 58:09Speaker 1: head tingles after you do a debate, right, it's like
- 58:11Speaker 1: taking a final exam. Oh yeah, because you're you're absolutely
- 58:14Speaker 1: all neur neurons are firing forever, however long it is.
- 58:17Speaker 3: Yeah, And Spencer was joking here but that it's an
- 58:21Speaker 3: unfair attack on the not at the Three Guys events anymore.
- 58:23Speaker 3: You've been attendant of those have been wonderful.
- 58:26Speaker 1: You're you attend more than anybody, so delightful day.
- 58:30Speaker 2: I've enjoyed it. And well, I look true.
- 58:32Speaker 3: I mean I show up every Saturday. He said he
- 58:33Speaker 3: has to work on Saturdays, but he's never there on Saturday.
- 58:36Speaker 2: That's true.
- 58:37Speaker 1: It is true, Three Guys. I never rooted for a
- 58:39Speaker 1: team that could look so good one minute or series
- 58:42Speaker 1: and so bad the next. Baylor was a microcosm of
- 58:44Speaker 1: that when the offense was good, you expected them to
- 58:47Speaker 1: never be stopped. Then for no reason at all, you
- 58:49Speaker 1: couldn't get out of their way on third down in
- 58:51Speaker 1: the third quarter. The d looked like they were playing
- 58:54Speaker 1: with six guys in the first half, and then in
- 58:55Speaker 1: the third their world beaters. It frustrates me imagine how
- 58:59Speaker 1: the staff and players feel so in regard to the
- 59:01Speaker 1: mattingly inconsistent Mountaineers versus UCF. Here's a couple of what's
- 59:06Speaker 1: more likely now that we've got ten games, should be
- 59:09Speaker 1: able to draw conclusions. Interesting fact, we've only won once
- 59:13Speaker 1: when we had a completion percentage less than sixty that
- 59:17Speaker 1: was against Kansas. We've never lost when our completion percentage
- 59:22Speaker 1: was better than sixty. So there's a there's a stat
- 59:25Speaker 1: you can follow in game on seven, Garrett completes fifty five,
- 59:29Speaker 1: Nico complete sixty seven. Should Nico start? No, Is it
- 59:33Speaker 1: more likely that our quarterbacks.
- 59:35Speaker 3: Was that eighty two percent in Arizona really helped there?
- 59:38Speaker 1: Is it more likely that our quarterbacks complete sixty percent
- 59:43Speaker 1: of their passes? UCF allows teams to complete sixty five,
- 59:47Speaker 1: or that UCF gets two fifty passing They only average
- 59:50Speaker 1: two to oh two, but we give up to seventy.
- 59:52Speaker 1: That's a good as a really thick one to wrap
- 59:56Speaker 1: your arms around. It's not difficult to find out. Something
- 59:59Speaker 1: that our he does well is clearly stopping run. Our
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: opponents average only one thirty one a game. UCF goes
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: for two six three strength on strength, is it more
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: likely we hold them under one seven five or that
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: we were that we rush for over two hundy Our
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: average is one ninety seven. They only give up one sixteen.
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: So you do these on Friday when I'm not here.
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: Thursday, sometimes Friday when you're not here, but Thursdays. This
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: is a sports line thing we started a few years ago.
- 1:00:28Speaker 3: Do the more likely? And we ask Doug and bridgeport
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: Is has been really good providing some of these, saving
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: some research wor.
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: Yeah, really just good last time.
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to blow your your Thursday show.
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: I'll let you go, Doug. You get a few more
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: of those.
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: Is.
- 1:00:41Speaker 4: One of the maddening things about this team has been
- 1:00:44Speaker 4: the inconsistency, right. I mean that's where there are times
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: you go, oh, okay, look and then the next quarter,
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: the next half is completely reversed, and that that's really maddening.
- 1:00:53Speaker 4: I mean, and now you're in game eleven, Brad, and
- 1:00:57Speaker 4: I don't think you cannot reasonably expect that you put
- 1:00:59Speaker 4: it on atogether for a game. You'dn't like that, but
- 1:01:02Speaker 4: you can't reasonably expect it because of what the history
- 1:01:05Speaker 4: of this team has been.
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: Correct. H Three guys, what's the actual role and responsibility
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: of the football general manager? I know him from the
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: interview you did with him that he evaluates players and recruits,
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: but does he also have a role in evaluating the
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: coaching staff? Ps? Here's your ad read for Hoppy's obvious observations.
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: It should be obvious. I'd like to submit the following
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: exact ad red wording. Hoppy's obvious observations are sponsored by
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: a company that has paid for a mention of their
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: company name, product or service. The end, it's good love
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: the show Pete and Pennsborough.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: It beats brought to you by Oxygen. It's everywhere good
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: idea by pet Yeah.
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: Jack from Charleston. As far as our nil being somewhere
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: in the three to seven range, would that make pass
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: McAfee one of our absolute largest donors? After all, didn't
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: he give a million just trying to figure out these calculations.
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: Pat pledged a million, So yeah, for a year, but
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: it's like it repeats itself, right, and again.
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: Was that a was that a one time, one year
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: donation or was that spread over time?
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: Do we know?
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: I don't know zero idea how the whole thing played.
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: I just know the answer would be yes to that.
- 1:02:26Speaker 3: Whether it's spread or a one year hit, yeah would
- 1:02:29Speaker 3: be the answer.
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: So so just keep also this in mind as we
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: move into this next chapter of Revshare, and that is
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: that the universities are going to be bringing in these
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: matt the management of this the nil or the revshare payouts. Right,
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: And so as we sit here today, we say, hey,
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: this team makes three, seven, this team does five, this
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: team does six, this team said all those numbers kind
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: of like recalculate starting in July.
- 1:03:00Speaker 4: By the way, I don't think I know this, and
- 1:03:04Speaker 4: I think others are know this. I don't think it's
- 1:03:06Speaker 4: not a secret. But there was no formal announcement that
- 1:03:08Speaker 4: Rob Alsop has been brought into the athletic department. Former
- 1:03:11Speaker 4: vice president of WVU, he left about a year ago
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: and now he's been brought in just recently and is
- 1:03:17Speaker 4: working directly with Wren on these very kinds of issues
- 1:03:20Speaker 4: as these as these this money situation gets more complicated.
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: And also I guess we'll be coming internally, right.
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: Yeah, yea, yeah, it will be.
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: The governance of how you're going to start to do
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: all this stuff is he was in politics there before right.
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: Now he worked, he was in Charleston, he was like
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: legislative stuff. Well, he was the chief of staff for
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: for Tomlin.
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: So you need somebody that knows the inner workings of
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: this because that's what this thing is going to be.
- 1:03:52Speaker 4: Those I mean, he's a loyal university guy, and he
- 1:03:55Speaker 4: knows politics.
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: He's he's plugged in, he's plugged in, he knows.
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he fits a lot of the characteristics
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: that you need to have in this new space.
- 1:04:04Speaker 3: Right, You're good because as you're seeing, that becomes a
- 1:04:09Speaker 3: job in itself, the management of it. Never found mind
- 1:04:12Speaker 3: trying to find the money and raising it, just the
- 1:04:14Speaker 3: management and the rules and regulations and how we do it.
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: And wow, it's sure there's a lot. There's a lot
- 1:04:19Speaker 3: there obviously.
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: Hello, it's been a disappointing season. We all agree. I
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: wanted to get your thoughts on these factors and what
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: concern level is for each one, Money and il revshare,
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: player talent, player development, coaching schedule. Here's how I would
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: rank the factors from one being the most concerning to
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: five the least one money and il revshare, two coaching, three,
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: player talent, four schedule, five player development development Kyle and Martinsburg.
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: He says, I'm an aspiring landowner. I mean, if you
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: want to quantify those as two, which is the most important.
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: That's hard to separate out. That's a lot of things
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: that go hand in hand right there. Because I still
- 1:05:11Speaker 3: think he's got player development down there. I still think
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: that's going to matter at a place like West Virginia.
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: So the player development, but slide money with it, because
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: when you develop, you're going to have to retain. We
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: just talked about that with this basketball program. That's going
- 1:05:26Speaker 3: to be the next thing its attention goes to is
- 1:05:29Speaker 3: not only who you bring in, but can you retain
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: the guys that you just played through while they were
- 1:05:33Speaker 3: young and lived with mistakes. You want to be able
- 1:05:36Speaker 3: to benefit from them as they grow up. On both sides.
- 1:05:39Speaker 3: So player developments still I think important, but money is
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: tied into that one as well. Coaching obviously matters, but
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: if you don't have any talent as number three, then
- 1:05:48Speaker 3: that matters less. Right, So talent is always a major
- 1:05:52Speaker 3: part of this. You have got to have, guys, you
- 1:05:54Speaker 3: got it.
- 1:05:54Speaker 4: And also, by the way, if you're opening your season
- 1:05:56Speaker 4: with Penn State or Alabama, then scheduling the most important
- 1:05:59Speaker 4: is the most portant schedule.
- 1:06:00Speaker 3: I still continue to say it until the SEC succeeds
- 1:06:03Speaker 3: in its current pitch to make everybody pay attention to
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: strength to schedule and the committee reacts to that, which
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: eventually they'll do when the TV networks in the SEC
- 1:06:11Speaker 3: are talking about it so much and all the people
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: on national platforms talk about so much, eventually strength of
- 1:06:15Speaker 3: schedule is going to come in. It's not there yet.
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: It's just not there yet. So right now it doesn't
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: It matters a lot for keeping your job. It doesn't
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: matter when it comes to playffs, So don't play anybody.
- 1:06:26Speaker 3: Why would you play anybody? Start rewarding teams that play.
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: People getting into the weeds here. But one of the
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: things that's supposed to happen with there's rev share is
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: that an independent body will oversee nil payments, so that
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: a school can't go out and give someone in an
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: ordinate amount of money for a project. In other words, Hoppy,
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: I'm going to put you on billboards. I'm going to
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: pay you a ghastly amount of money, five million dollars.
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: There's going to be an independent counset that says, no,
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: that's not market value.
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: Well, that's going to be hard to you.
- 1:07:01Speaker 3: I need to see the operation determining that.
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: That is.
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: You know who they're hiring. They're hiring Deloitte to do it,
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: so I mean respected, I know.
- 1:07:12Speaker 3: How just it because market value is different. A house
- 1:07:15Speaker 3: isn't a house in each different market, right, they cost
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: different market. That's that's a that's a good thing to say.
- 1:07:21Speaker 3: That's fine. Let me see when it happens. Because there
- 1:07:24Speaker 3: hasn't been enforcement in college athletics around much for the
- 1:07:26Speaker 3: last few years.
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: That's what they're going to try to do.
- 1:07:30Speaker 4: Good luck if you okay, if you wanted to more
- 1:07:33Speaker 4: equalize it, you would have a salary cap.
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: Then you're gonna get sued. Then you're gonna get sued
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: for with withholding money. That's going to be another suit.
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: Three guys before the game. Hoppy's drinking out of it
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: right now, he's drinking out of it right now. That
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- 1:07:54Speaker 1: It is available to you at Tutors Biscuit World of
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: Camo mugs. I mean, you gotta have cam getting ready
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: for hunting season. Don't be going up in your tree
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- 1:08:06Speaker 1: ounds travel mug and there it is for fifteen nine.
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: That is a great deal. Fifteen ninety nine. And then
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- 1:08:18Speaker 1: Camo travel Mug available at Tutor's Biscuit World. While you're there,
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: got yourself a big bag of biscuits, including the Mountaineer.
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: If I take mine in, will they know I didn't
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: pay for it?
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: Nope, they'll never know. No, you're gonna have a gifted
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: which you did Garden and Gun Magazine from them. Last
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- 1:08:46Speaker 2: Shouldn't enter again. They should just say no.
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: They should probably put a different one in there and
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: see I they can win with another one. They'll win
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: with another one. Then they'll really be high.
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: The biscuit that we came up with, the one that
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: might have might have a Swiss cheese.
- 1:08:59Speaker 3: A great text. That's a genius idea.
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: Hey, three guys, quick one. When was the last time
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: we were at home? When was the last time we
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: were a home underdog to a team coming in with
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: a record below five hundred.
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: That is a.
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: Great question question. I have no idea, Ralph and Charleston.
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time thinking about Tony and
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: Brad's comments about the nil in our ranking in the
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: Big Twelve. I am retired, I'm on fixed income. I
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: send my Measley eighteen dollars and sixty seven cents to
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: Country Roads Trust every month. I know that's laughable, but
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: I'm just trying to do my part.
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: Good for you.
- 1:09:35Speaker 3: Yeah, return of fixing.
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: There's a story about that in the Bible.
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: Good job he said I did? He said, I did
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: a Google search. There's no stories about nil in the Bible.
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: There is about the woman who gave the Yeah, I.
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: Did a Google search, he writes.
- 1:09:51Speaker 4: You.
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: Sure it's not somewhere in the old testaments.
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: I did a Google search concerning Marshall and West Virginia
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: as to how much funding they received from the state
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: and their institutions. Forty percent of Marshal's athletic department budget
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: comes from the institution and taxpayers. West Virginia is self sustaining.
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: How can it be possible? How's that fair? Why are
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: WVU fans and taxpayers supporting Marshall athletics. The only interest
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: that universities would have in athletics is if they can
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: present a positive, winning image that young prospective students would
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: like to be associated. Something has to change at West
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: Virginia will continue to be in the bottom half of
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: the league. Thank you, keep up the good work. I'm
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: not going to validate or I don't know any of
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: those numbers if you did the research. I mean, I
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: don't know any that true. I would just say this
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: that I continue to tell you all this. Things are
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: in change mode literally as we speak, and decisions going
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: forward as to how West Virginia specifically will fund its
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: athletic department through the university are being debated right now.
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: How do we live in this new world? So I
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: would say to you it's in process. We'll get it
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: figured out. Exactly how it's all gonna end up. Have
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: no idea, but at least the conversations are happening. Happening
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: to try to help E one Jennings. He may have
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: he may be calling himself E one, or he may
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: have had a typo. Maybe he might be saying one
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: he's in rona status. That's E one. Two TV questions. First,
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: is there a cap on how many times the six
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: day window can be used for selecting game times? Yes,
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: and in fact they used them all up already this year.
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: But they came out on Monday and said, we need
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: a constile to the Farber College Constitution. We need you
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: guys to give us another six day window because we
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen in the Big twelve race,
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: and they gave it to them. That's why we don't
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: know what time Texas Tech West Virginia is yet. So, yes,
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: that happened. Second, how will the new Big twelve deal
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: with the TNT impact West Virginia football and basketball? I'll
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: hang up and listen. It's huge in the sense that
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: TNT was the Big Twelve is the recipient of that
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: ugly battle between the NBA and Warner TNT that they
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: didn't give them the games. And this week we saw
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: part of the settlement was that inside the NBA with
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: Ernie Johnson and Shaq and Kenny and Charles is going
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: to be aired on ESPN going forward. But as part,
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: as Ren Baker calls it the horse trading, they also
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: had to give some inventory up. ESPN did that was
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: supposed to be on ESPN Plus and they gave it
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: to TNT. So TNT is going to get a dozen
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: or so games going forward. So what that does is
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: for our fans when and if West Virginia is involved
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: in those games, you don't have to worry about getting
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: it on ESPN Plus streaming more linear coverage. And it
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: also going forward to the next television negotiation, at least
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: you will have someone else as a potential bidder which
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: could generate you more dollars and Brad, wouldn't you think
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: that since Shack in the last two years has been
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: the special DJ at the Big Twelve Basketball tournament in
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: Kansas City, that there could very well be some more
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: Big Twelve involvement with.
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: Shack, you would hope, because that's we don't have time
- 1:13:23Speaker 3: to get into this, but this is something interesting to
- 1:13:25Speaker 3: watch because I do think you can make the case
- 1:13:27Speaker 3: there's some benefit for moving off some of the streaming
- 1:13:31Speaker 3: or a streaming platform on ESPN plus and getting into
- 1:13:35Speaker 3: more homes that TNT or TBS give you, right. I
- 1:13:38Speaker 3: think that's a reasonable assumption. I think the question starts
- 1:13:42Speaker 3: to become as you move away from that ESPN model
- 1:13:45Speaker 3: that dominates so much of the conversation around games. Does
- 1:13:50Speaker 3: that eventually hurt you? Does it hurt you to go
- 1:13:52Speaker 3: to a network where you have to specifically go find it?
- 1:13:55Speaker 3: And I think that's the debate moving forward, is which
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: of those ways out the ad exposure you get from
- 1:14:01Speaker 3: being over there and those networks paying more attention and
- 1:14:05Speaker 3: talking more about you, versus getting further away from that.
- 1:14:09Speaker 3: We know the ESPN driven agenda and what they talk about,
- 1:14:12Speaker 3: and does it just become more sec discussion from the
- 1:14:16Speaker 3: ESPN side of things. So I'm probably on the side
- 1:14:20Speaker 3: of more networks involved to help eliminate some of that.
- 1:14:25Speaker 3: But I think that is something to watch and pay
- 1:14:27Speaker 3: attention to. It was certainly an interesting development in the space.
- 1:14:30Speaker 3: You don't surprising this move very often.
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: Last one A gentleman uncle Chuck, he identifies as Uncle
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: Chuck in South Carolina, wants to know if it wouldn't
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: make more sense, I'll just read it more discussion of
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: moving the pit game to the end of the season.
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: I'd like building up for a big rivalry in the
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: final game. If you have a good season, the final
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: rivalry game is huge. If you have a poor season,
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: you still have a chance of beating your rival. It
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: holds your interest. If you're six and five heading into Lubbock,
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: does anyone care? Winning the rivalry game doesn't seem to
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: hold moment them, while losing the rivalry seems to deflate
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: the rest of the season. I would say this, Chuck,
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: that that what you're saying does make sense. That's the
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: embodiment of what college sports used to be all about.
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: But now it's the television networks, and so if it
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: were to make sense to them, then yes, But chances
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: are especially now with conference races, unfortunately no, and.
- 1:15:27Speaker 3: This league has decided to try and highlight some of
- 1:15:29Speaker 3: the big conference games at the end of the season
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: leading into conference championship and playoff.
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: You remember, I mean Nebraska and Oklahoma at the end
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: of the season.
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: I mean, just like great Is that easily like Thanksgiving?
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, right on a Friday. Yes, great games.
- 1:15:43Speaker 3: Pitt West Virginia games when they've been at the end
- 1:15:44Speaker 3: of fantastic. Hey, listen, those these beginning of the year
- 1:15:47Speaker 3: games have been fantastic too. That's starting the season a
- 1:15:49Speaker 3: couple of years ago, the game down here, so that
- 1:15:52Speaker 3: that they've been drawing as well. It's not like there's
- 1:15:54Speaker 3: no interest in that either.
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: So no, it gets it, It gets it done. All right,
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: we're out. Next week's gonna be weird. We are going
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: to do Sunday to recap the UCF game, but then
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: we got we're gone for basketball after that.
- 1:16:09Speaker 4: You're want to be one guy before the game, can
- 1:16:11Speaker 4: you just sit in here? I'll just sit here one
- 1:16:14Speaker 4: got it?
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: Yeah, I Why don't you get your new friend Chris Wallace,
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: have him sitting here and host a show with you,
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: right right? Huh? Maybe good? Bring Coach Hunter in. What
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: do you think, Brad?
- 1:16:25Speaker 3: Sure?
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, pretty good.
- 1:16:28Speaker 2: Not how coach Hunter sounds. Cadence though, is perfect. Everybody
- 1:16:31Speaker 2: knows it's Coach Hunter.
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Anyway, we got we'll figure out. We just
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: know this. We'll we'll give you, we'll give you even Monday. Really, Yeah,
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- 1:18:43Speaker 2: We're done.
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: Three guys before the game. Episode five nine four completed