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IFH 793: Comedy, Confidence, and the Art of Reinvention with Rhonda Shear · Indie Film Hustle® - A Filmmaking Podcast

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  Speaker 3: And I don't want to play favorites, but this is
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  Speaker 3: actually one of my favorite episodes because I grew up
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  Speaker 3: watching Usays Up All Night all the time. I remember
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  Speaker 3: when this was on. I found so many movies because
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  Speaker 3: of Usays Up All Night. And my guest this week
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  Speaker 3: was the host of Usays Up All Night from nineteen
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  Speaker 3: ninety one to nineteen ninety eight. She's acting in TV
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  Speaker 3: shows like Happy Days, mattered with children, Duckman, just to
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  Speaker 3: name a few. In two thousand and one, she launched
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  Speaker 3: her own Woman's Intimate line, and she has the number
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  Speaker 3: one selling Braught in the world. And her new book
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  Speaker 3: Up All Night from Hollywood Bombshell to Landre and Mogul
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  Speaker 3: Life Lessons from an Accident Dental Feminist is out on
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  Speaker 3: October third, twenty seventeen, so that'd be next month. In
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  Speaker 3: this episode, we chat a lot about movies. Find the
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  Speaker 3: courage of all your dreams for rereventing yourself at any age.
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  Speaker 3: It's just tons more again one of my favorite episodes
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  Speaker 3: with guests Ronda Shear copy.
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  Speaker 4: To thak to you heard nothing but amazing things about me.
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  Speaker 4: So thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 3: Oh thank you, Ron, I really appreciate that. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: I really wanted to have you on too, because I
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  Speaker 3: grew up up watching Up all night or USA is
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  Speaker 3: up all night, and I remember.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, wait, let me do it day of day, wait
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  Speaker 4: wait us say all night. I have to do it
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  Speaker 4: all to be sad, so I have to get it out.
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  Speaker 3: I remember that all the time. I mean sometimes I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't even remember the movies, but I remember. I remember
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  Speaker 3: that because you know, I remember too finding a lot
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  Speaker 3: of movies i'd never heard of before from from that intro,
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  Speaker 3: and I remember, I just remember that intro. The first
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  Speaker 3: time I ever saw it was you you doing that,
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  Speaker 3: and I remember, like it was so great because it's
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  Speaker 3: so it's so catchy, you know what I meant, Somber remember.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, And it's so funny that you say that, because
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  Speaker 4: you know, when I first you know, there was another
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  Speaker 4: gal before me that hosted up All Night with Gilbert
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  Speaker 4: on I was always on Friday and Jilt on Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm banking on a name right now, but anyway,
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  Speaker 4: you might be able to see Carolyn Caroline, Carolyn Schlit,
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  Speaker 4: Caroline Schlit and so she was there about a year
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  Speaker 4: and a half before I got there, and I know
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  Speaker 4: people really loved her, and I thought she was actually
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  Speaker 4: very good. But you know, it was your thing network
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  Speaker 4: that wanted to and placed her for whatever. And I
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  Speaker 4: think they were going a little bit. They thought it
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  Speaker 4: being a little bit sexier, they wanted to kind of
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  Speaker 4: go for it. So I did. But I always thought
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  Speaker 4: when I got it, I always thought, you know, you
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  Speaker 4: have to come up with kind of a catchphrase. And
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  Speaker 4: because years ago I'm from New Orleans, and when I
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  Speaker 4: was in New Orleans, I used to do just come
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  Speaker 4: for It was an all female you know, like class
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  Speaker 4: like pre you know, all the gyms that were mixed.
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  Speaker 4: They used to have like men gym, female gyms anybody.
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  Speaker 4: It was called the Shapespot for all women. And I
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  Speaker 4: used to and the catchphrase was let's get in shape.
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  Speaker 4: So that was kind of like my thing imagining all
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  Speaker 4: of my teens and my twenties, and so it always
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  Speaker 4: caught and where wherever I would go in New Orleans
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  Speaker 4: and everybody go, oh, it's a Shapespot girl. So anyway,
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  Speaker 4: that kind of brought me back to that, and so
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  Speaker 4: I said, I have to come up with some way
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  Speaker 4: of saying show that kind of catches, and so hence
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  Speaker 4: that that's how that was born. And of course it
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  Speaker 4: was a little bit of a good fier character. But
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  Speaker 4: if you really listened to the character, you know, it
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  Speaker 4: was fun and smart comedy. But if you were just
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  Speaker 4: I guess, uh, channel surfing, you would just see a
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  Speaker 4: lot of blonde hair, a lot of cleaclish and all night.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway, it was good. It was a good run,
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  Speaker 4: almost almost eight years, so kind of cool. To have
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  Speaker 4: that long run on a show, on any show on TV.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's absolutely amazing because I actually looked
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  Speaker 3: it up because I didn't even know the total number
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  Speaker 3: of episodes off the top of my head. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there's like nine hundred episodes of Up All Night, and
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  Speaker 3: I mean, right, and you did it for like eight years.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's an insane number of episodes.
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  Speaker 4: It really is. Well, you know what it is because
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  Speaker 4: we taped every week, as opposed to like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: most episode of shows are like twenty two a season,
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  Speaker 4: but we were on every week, so it would either
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  Speaker 4: tape every week and then the show for a while,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't move to New York, but we would go
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  Speaker 4: to New York and tape four or five you know,
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  Speaker 4: bank them, and then we knew an air. So it
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  Speaker 4: was really cool to have that Machy and I had. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 4: or fortunately, I guess, they kept changing producers and direct
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  Speaker 4: was on me. I don't know what they wanted. But actually,
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  Speaker 4: and looking back, I'm still friendly with all these people,
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  Speaker 4: and each month brought something else to the table. Well.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, in the very early years it was really
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  Speaker 4: sexy and sassy and a lot of lingerie and for
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  Speaker 4: a couple of years, and then it kind of changed
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  Speaker 4: and it became more interview style, and then when we
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  Speaker 4: got to New York, it really changed. But I think
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  Speaker 4: people remember the earlier years, but for me as a performer,
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  Speaker 4: they were all cool because I really got to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: have a lot of saying what I wanted to do.
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  Speaker 4: So she watched a late like even the last year,
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  Speaker 4: we did a lot of I did a lot of
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  Speaker 4: impressions of like Lucille Ball and Share and like some
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  Speaker 4: of might I powered you a lot of my favorite
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  Speaker 4: ladies of television, So that was really cool. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that I did four hundred and fifty episodes myself, and
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm the only one that has most. I
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  Speaker 4: mean I have probably at least four hundred, might be
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  Speaker 4: missing a few, but I actually had them, you know.
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  Speaker 4: That was part of my contract that they had given
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  Speaker 4: me a video tape of everything. So most of those
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  Speaker 4: have been down or uploaded, i should say, and then
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  Speaker 4: a lot of them are still on DVD, so eventually
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  Speaker 4: we'll get to them and put them all on YouTube.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm the only one. They literally USA Network disposed
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  Speaker 4: of them back then because of the tape, just saving tape.
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  Speaker 4: Can you imagine how what a shame? So I think
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  Speaker 4: I even the producer, some of the producers have a
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  Speaker 4: few shows, but I have most of them. Of course
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  Speaker 4: I don't have the movies. I used to have all
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  Speaker 4: the movies. What they would do, the USA Network would
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  Speaker 4: send me the movies to watch, and you know, of course,
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  Speaker 4: then you know which you know do the wrap arounds
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  Speaker 4: later on. I should have saved all those movies, although
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't have had the rights to them myself. But
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  Speaker 4: people always say, do you have this film? You have that,
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  Speaker 4: and back in the day, I did, but for my
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  Speaker 4: own storage, I couldn't meet you know, we actually did
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  Speaker 4: two movies, or I hosted three movies every Friday night,
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  Speaker 4: so we we hosted and wrapped around two and then
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  Speaker 4: the storg one was just voiceover. But they would send
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  Speaker 4: me all the movies ahead of time, so I would
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  Speaker 4: have had a really great collection of the films if
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  Speaker 4: I would have kept them all. But it's funny, it's
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  Speaker 4: a genre that is kind of coming back. Even a
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  Speaker 4: few years ago. I was asked to do a film,
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  Speaker 4: and everyone really misses that genre and the fact that
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  Speaker 4: it was kind of innocent, like everybody thought you would
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  Speaker 4: see more, see more skin, or hear more language than
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  Speaker 4: you really got. So it was kind of titillating without
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  Speaker 4: being nasty what have you. So anyway, interesting time. I'm
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  Speaker 4: glad I was part of it, and even being part
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  Speaker 4: of early Basic cable, which was you I say, Network
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  Speaker 4: was the first full out basic cable, So very cool time.
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad I was part of it, of course, and
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  Speaker 4: it led to obviously many other opportunities and wonderful things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say that there really is
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  Speaker 3: nothing like this on TV anymore, because this, you know,
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  Speaker 3: as I was saying earlier, introduced me to a lot
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  Speaker 3: of films that I wouldn't have seen otherwise, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because again, you know, your character was great, it was
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  Speaker 3: it was engaging. You actually enjoyed, you know, doing what
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  Speaker 3: you were doing.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: You know again, I imagine watching all these movies. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you're probably you know, you're getting a fuel for these movies.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this was a comedy, your nightmare on Elm Street.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously that's you know, more of a horror. But you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, it really is nothing like this now.
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  Speaker 4: And believe me, I still do. I still have fans
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  Speaker 4: reach out to me and say I really miss this.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I grew up with this. Of course I
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  Speaker 4: always couldn't say I got a lot of boys. I
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  Speaker 4: think I did, but I have a lot of female
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  Speaker 4: fans in the show as well. But it isn't anything
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  Speaker 4: I mean, of course, Alvira was, you know, she was syndicated.
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  Speaker 4: I know, Cassandra Peterson, and then they had to Bob
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  Speaker 4: Briggs and then they have uh, they had I guess
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  Speaker 4: the later one in the movie, which you know, a
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  Speaker 4: knockoff of us in a way.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
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  Speaker 4: They're all good in their own way. And then I
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  Speaker 4: don't know that it might be some local people that
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  Speaker 4: do it. I mean all of this spurned from local
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  Speaker 4: people that did it back in the day. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: even Alviras started off the local show on Channel five
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  Speaker 4: in LA and then that became syndicated. But now it's
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  Speaker 4: a shame. It's really it's a sweet way it looks.
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  Speaker 4: It's really all about I mean, what it was about
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  Speaker 4: then was making people tune in to the commercials and
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  Speaker 4: keeping them entertained with these films so that you know,
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  Speaker 4: USA would make money off the ads. Well, I don't
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  Speaker 4: think anybody realizes it, but that little show made its
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  Speaker 4: fortune for USA Network off the ads, and that finded
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  Speaker 4: a lot of their early original programming, like was Sam
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  Speaker 4: Nikita and other shows like that. So we were like
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  Speaker 4: this little cable show that costs very little too, but
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  Speaker 4: use that was making some big dollars, some big bucks
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  Speaker 4: for the network. So good time, good time to be
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  Speaker 4: in TV. The experiment a little bit fun. I hosted
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  Speaker 4: the show from ninety one to ninety eight. Everybody thinks
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  Speaker 4: it was in the eighties because I kept my hair big,
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  Speaker 4: but I didn't start till January of ninety one and
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  Speaker 4: just had a great time with it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I remember those other USA shows too. By
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  Speaker 3: the way you met, you mentioned Nikita, and I remember,
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  Speaker 3: like you remember Duckman, that show duck Man.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I actually did a couple of episodes of it
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  Speaker 4: as Ronda. I wasn't at Dog Coming, it was Rhonda.
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  Speaker 4: And then I did Didn't Have All All Science. I
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  Speaker 4: was on an episode of that. I was on almost
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  Speaker 4: that the other show I wasn't almost having Nikita Daring,
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  Speaker 4: I'm blanket on the other name of the show. I
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  Speaker 4: can't believe. I can't think of it. But then they
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  Speaker 4: started off. It was really made them put before Up
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  Speaker 4: All Night was Night's Light, which just a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people still remember. I vaguely remember, but because it was
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  Speaker 4: before me. But that was their first kind of out
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  Speaker 4: there programming of you know, interstitial late night television. So
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  Speaker 4: it was a really cool network to be part of
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  Speaker 4: in the early days. And then they got into I
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  Speaker 4: wish I mean from I mean, I don't watch things much.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't want to do much a lot of television.
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  Speaker 4: But I always am told that it was better back
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  Speaker 4: in the day. I think it was just it was
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  Speaker 4: a little more raw and a little bit more experimental,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, everything is so uh and everything is
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  Speaker 4: so much more reality today than scripted, because we were
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of both. We had a little we
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  Speaker 4: had a little script and then a lot of like
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  Speaker 4: flying by the seat of our pants. But it would
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  Speaker 4: take about twelve hours to film those up I mean,
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  Speaker 4: because I would fill anywhere between thirty minutes of time
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  Speaker 4: till to an hour, depending on how much was cut
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  Speaker 4: out of the film. It's how much was you know,
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  Speaker 4: how how short the films are, So it just depended
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  Speaker 4: on the film. Sometimes I would have to fill a
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  Speaker 4: longer period so people think that people thought that we
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  Speaker 4: were live. We were never alive and would take in
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  Speaker 4: the day unless we were doing a night event or
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  Speaker 4: something and we saw it for hours. It was a
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it was definitely a lot more hard work
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  Speaker 4: than I think people thought. But I had a blast,
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  Speaker 4: and I had great people in my life and that
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  Speaker 4: produced it and directed it, and a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: that were young people that started off and went on
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  Speaker 4: to do amazing things, like one of the young producers
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  Speaker 4: I think he produces Bill Maar now. So I mean
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  Speaker 4: they went on to do some pretty amazing things and
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  Speaker 4: coils after that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And you mentioned one thing too, Ronda, which is
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  Speaker 3: about how TV is nowadays, and you know, I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to get your take on this. You know, I think
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  Speaker 3: back in the in the nineties and the and even
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  Speaker 3: the eighties were you know a lot of these new
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  Speaker 3: TV shows, you know, were breaking ground and they were
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  Speaker 3: something new when they were fresh. My whole take on this,
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  Speaker 3: and something that I've noticed is that they let the
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  Speaker 3: hosts like yourself, be themselves and they really didn't say, say, hey, Ronda,
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  Speaker 3: here's a ninety page script you have to memorize. They then,
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  Speaker 3: you know, would let you be yourselves. And I think
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  Speaker 3: as we get along to TV nowadays, it's more of
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  Speaker 3: here's the script, read it, and don't don't venture off
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  Speaker 3: this script. And I think it really makes a lot
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  Speaker 3: of shows to cookie cutter because all the characters are
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  Speaker 3: talking the same, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, and even in reality which everybody thinks of reality,
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  Speaker 4: I can tell this. I mean some of my friends
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  Speaker 4: who I did a lot of talk shows and hosts
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  Speaker 4: justice and hosted our talk shows back in our era,
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  Speaker 4: and a lot of those young producers are now people
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  Speaker 4: who are kicking button reality TV. So I was kind
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  Speaker 4: of I did a lot of basically reality king but
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  Speaker 4: they were just segments that reality TV is not the
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  Speaker 4: real real. I mean, yes, they don't necessarily have scripts
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  Speaker 4: what that they memorize, but the producers really push you
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  Speaker 4: into situations and I'll say, oh, I'd like to see
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  Speaker 4: you and that guy and that girl, and I'd like
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  Speaker 4: to see this happening, So you're kind of push those
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  Speaker 4: those reality shows aren't necessarily as real, so I mean
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  Speaker 4: they and they kind of stole the pot to make
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  Speaker 4: you know, tension happen, and I just because of that,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's kind of manufacturing and it's all well, and
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  Speaker 4: that's why a lot of reality so all field the
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  Speaker 4: same because it's the same thing. They're pushing for fighting
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  Speaker 4: or they're pushing for, you know, for stuff to happen,
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  Speaker 4: so it's not organic. And yeah, we had a really
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  Speaker 4: good time. I mean, even if we were scripted and
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  Speaker 4: we had certain jokes that were scripted, I mean, Gilbert
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  Speaker 4: and I were really able to be ourselves and it
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  Speaker 4: was really fun to experiment with that. And by the way,
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  Speaker 4: we had so many guests on both of us. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Gilbert had all these great comedians in New York, and
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  Speaker 4: I had great comics, and I also had cheerleaders and
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  Speaker 4: you know, I had actors and actors, stand up comics
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  Speaker 4: and just all kinds of people, singers and what you know,
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  Speaker 4: from all walks of leans and that was fun. That
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  Speaker 4: kind of came into a Bondo wall back then. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, and then we would shamelessly promote whatever, you know,
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  Speaker 4: if they had a movie out or a book out,
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: we would promote them. And we had fun with it,
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: and we were we were kid about how shameless we
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: are and we would do spoof off of let them
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: and was big at the time, and his list of
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: ten and so we would do our own list of craziness.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: And I had all kinds of fans. I had foot
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: seat of fans that love my feet and my shoes
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: and all that. We would cater to. You know, whoever
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: would really white us and really pay attention, we would
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: give them a shout out. And no, you don't see
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: that happening anymore when you really cater to your fans. Yeah,
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: we did. We took. We took the fan mail. Really,
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: we'd have fan mail nights. I'll just web fan mail.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: And that was fun.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: And you would you would also just because you were
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: being yourself, and you know it was also you were
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: having fun and you were having fun with it, you know,
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: because you could just go and you know, be yourself,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: and like you said, you'd have some scripted jokes, but
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: they allowed you. You know, you were a character and
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: then and you know that's why I think a lot
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: of today it's just it's harder and harder. It's almost
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: like they want to homogenize things. And in terms of
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: like you know, I mean, you know how it is
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: so somebody probably looked at, you know, a sheet or
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: something and said, well, hey, people really are responding to
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: this on that show, So what if we you know,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: what if we did this? And that's why I think
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: happens happens today is you have people who've been looking
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: at like so many numbers and stuff like that that
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: they just think that, right, you know, hey, look we
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: have a formula we've made, and if we plug this
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: for you in, we're going to make hit after hit
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: after hit. And I think that's what.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Hundred percent it's more scientific today than it is organic.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: And that's that's kind of sad. I've like, I've pitched
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: TV shows and in the beginning, I really in the beginning,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: I mean years ago, I wanted to do real of
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: the show because there was so much craziness in my life.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: You know, I manufacture and produced undergarments, which of course
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: was a you know, came out of wearing so many
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: intimate apparel on up all night. But I you know,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: I want I thought it was such such a funny
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: business to be in. I mean, you're actually talking pannies
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: and oz I pitched it and you know, they liked it,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: but they wanted it. They wanted. They wanted to see
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: my husband's my business part of and they wanted to
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: see us fighting and have him, you know, me being
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: jealous of the models and that I said, that isn't happening.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not going to make up something that's
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: not real. And I mean these producers I had so successful,
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: but he actually he kept pushing. You know what your
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: husband's thinking, you're trying to make something happen that doesn't happen.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we can look at beautiful girls
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: and think they're beautiful, but that doesn't mean he Lester wants.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: You know that you're trying to make something happen. It's
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: completely untrue. So that's what happens on those reality shows.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: I think it's kind of yuckie. Yeah, you know, so
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: we didn't agree to go down that road at all.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know that's a bad road to go down.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean that would cause you problems off
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: camera as well, because you know.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Right, yeah, I mean, that's just bad. It's just bad.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: And besides that, it's not who I am. I'm not negative.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: That's not who I am as a person, and that's
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: not how I talk to my customers. You know, you know,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: I'm more of a positive, flirty fun you know, I
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: can't about my husband, but I don't believe in negative
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: and nastiest. I mean a lot of these people end
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: up getting divorces and some bad stuff happening on these
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: reality shows. But and I do think it's the fault
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: of the producers for pushing them down certain bad roads.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: So oh yeah, I don't need to do that. Yeah,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: I don't need any of that in my life. I
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: love the positive. There's enough negative that happens, you know
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: that you don't want to happen, and there's all these
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: things in the business or life, but you don't need
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: to push that into your lize. And that's what they want.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: They always want to have that kind of ying and
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: ying and the fight and people fighting and arguing and
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: pulling hand and I'm like, not me.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like Jersey Shore. I think that
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: that reality show. I think ruined a lot of producers
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: because we need more of that.
• 20:00
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• 20:07
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• 20:09
  Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, that was so manufacturing and
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: you know now it's it's like, oh, you know, and
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: or the Kardashians. That was another show. I think that
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: just you know, it was a I think again, like
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: we were talking about formulas, and I think that that
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: was too much of a lot of where producers could
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: look at that and say, hey see we could be
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: that that show. You know, look at what Kim can
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: do from that show. It's like, well, yeah, that's not
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: something most.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: People really All the Housewives shows, you know, that's the
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: fact that they keep me. I've never watched any of them,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: you know, and people say I ever seen any of
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: They just don't intreat me or interest me at all.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: I know what it means. I totally get it. I mean, hey,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: this is not what's that makes me happy. But you know,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: I like the old sessions of people becoming celebrities because
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: they actually had talent, you know. I mean. I was
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: a stand up comic for many years and the jury
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: fils around and those people, and that's that's that's where
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: I came from. People had to really be funny and
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: write a good joke. And my days a stand up
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: and a new one was kind of doing the sexiest
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: stand up comedy, female comic comedy at all. When I
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: started in nineteen eighty four eighty five, and so it
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: was kind of a category. They even know what to
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: do with me. But I mean I ended up getting
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: booked and headlining all over. But I mean, nowadays I
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: would have been right in there with the Amy Schumers,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: but back then they didn't want that. Of course I'm not.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I'm a feminist in my own way, but but not
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: the way these women are, like they Schumer movies. You know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: she's attacking the guy. I'm still that old fashioned at all.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: That's like I want the guy, you know, coming on
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: to the girl and being flurty. But I don't. I
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: don't like it. It's just so I like just a
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: little bit more old fashion in my life. I think
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: it's SEXI you, yeah, but whatever you want to call
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: it on a gold fashion. But that's just the way
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: I was brought up. And I still think, you know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: that's just I still think guys like that at the
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: end of the day, I don't think they wrestle and
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: love aggressive women and that are that aggressive. You can
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: still be a feminist. That's what my book's about. By
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: the way, I do have a book you know that
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: will be actually hitting. It's it's an important prefail right
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: now on Amazon called called Up All Night, and it's
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: the life and journey of an accidental feminist, which I
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: really think my life was because I did so many pageants.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I was in this Louisiana and then I was a
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Saints cheerleader back to New Orleans, and then I went
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: on to Los Angeles and did Happy Days and you
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: know it, co starred on a lot of television, and
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: then eventually Up All Night, and then I reunited with
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: my high school sweetheart sixteen years ago and we started
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: to current don this I Am the wand this year
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: brand of intimate apparel, and so it was about, you know,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: my book covers, you know, my early life. I ran
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: to public office when I was young, and talks about
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: that how is except to law school. But then I
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: went to Hollywood and I was very I was tight
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: cast immediately as a sexy girl, and I thought it,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: but it just it didn't work. So eventually I just
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: went with it. And so the book has all these
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: life lessons on how to use what's God given. And
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: I mean basically, I was a feminist in my own
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: way and stood up and stood my ground and always
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: did and always got things my way, but I also
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: used the things that were given to me in life,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: so I didn't you know, I wasn't this aggressive or
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: outwardly aggressive woman, but yet I did fight for my
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: own rights, just I did it my way. So the
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: book has a lot of life lessons and tips along
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: with comedy and a lot of pictures from Up All
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Night and my younger life. And I'm really excited it. Actually,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: like I said, it's on presail right now on Amazon
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: called Ronde is Up. Actually it's it's called Up All
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Night by Ronda Share, but it literally will be out
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: October third, is when everything you know, HiT's a Sin
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: and all the other places. So we're in bookstores. So
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: we're very excited about it.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to link to that in the show
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: notes everybody, because I actually saw Rona was writing the book,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: and I thought this would be a great time to
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: to approach you, Ronda about you know, coming on this podcast,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: because you know, I oh my pleasure get thanks for
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: you know, for coming on. And I will link to
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: that in the show notes because uh, again I love
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: the title obviously, and again, you know, some of the
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: things you were just talking about about using your strengths
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: and you know and using you know, not trying to
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: fight resistance, you know what I mean, Like people were
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: saying to you, you know, hey, you know, hey, Randa
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: this or that the other thing. And you know you
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: just mentioned about you know, finding your your talents and
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: finding what you do, what you really like to do
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: and are very good at, and you know you use
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: that and you you were able to, you know, build
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: this whole empire you have. Now you have a clothing
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: line which is doing very well. By the way, I actually,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: you know, to prep for this interview, I actually looked
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: it up and I didn't know you have like the
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: number one selling bra in the world. I think.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's called the Opra Opera, which I always believed
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: in taglines and it's just that it's a very comfortable,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: wireless no hooks and eyes bra. And it took off
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: and we started doing it at two thousand and three.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: That really took off, like in two thousand and nine ten,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: and then we did an infomercial and lo and behold,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: it became a best selling bra in the world with
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: over thirty five million sold in thirty four countries. And
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: we continue to do the bra along with other bras
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: so we basically came up with a category of bras
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: so and we also started you know after odd bra
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: and we have the lifestyle of clothing and now I'm
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: starting to get another loungeeer line called Odd Dreams by
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Ronda Share. So it's really exciting. And this is something
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: that came out of my husband and not getting married
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: and reunited. And we started this business just to work
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: together because we hadn't seen each other really since we
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: were kids, and he was living in Louisiana and I
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: was living in Hollywood, and we put this together, never
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: thinking that it would have the success that it did.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: But you know, we both complimented each other as business people.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: As a spokesperson he you know, behind the scenes and
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: the financial end of it. So very cool. So the
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: book talks about love later in life and finding your soulmate.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: It talks about you know, becoming an entrepreneur later in
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: life and that you can reinvent at any age. And
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: so I have a lot of tips along with being
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: really funny. I mean it's a really funny story now
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: in my Hollywood stories and some fun pictures. So I
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: think it's a book for everyone to read, both men
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: and we I mean, I think we'll really enjoy it.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: So I mean, and I have to say, accomplishing and
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: writing a book is something I always wanted to do,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: and I actually am getting ready to start my second
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: one because it kind of gets into your blood. But
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: I have to say, it's like one of the prouder
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: things that I've done is like, you know, actually writing
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: down because I thought, I really feel I have a
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: lot to share with a lot of people, and you
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: also want to remember some of those amazing moments in
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: your life. And because if you know, I get up
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: and I do a lot of speak to and people
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: love to hear my story and my story with my husband,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: and you know, it's a very loving tale of two
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: people who were first first loved when we were twelve
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: and thirteen, and then getting back together and then starting
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: a business. I mean, gosh, and as you never even
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: dream of that. That's why you kind of have to
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: go sometimes where life lead to. And again that's like
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: not manufacturing. So people want you to manufactor of stuff,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: and I just feel like you have to be really
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: real in life and very authentic and stick with whatever
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: you're doing, and you know, all dreams can come true.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned about reinventing yourself. You know, if there's
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: one thing I've learned about this podcast is I've taught
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: interviewed people from all walks of life, and one thing
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: that they've all sort of mentioned and mentioned is one
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: way or another is reinventing themselves. You know, some people
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: they didn't, they didn't pick up a camera until they
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: you know, they were forty fifty years old and they
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: were able to go out make films. And you know,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: some people they ended up you know, winning Sun Dance
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: and they ended up just sort of you know, doing
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: something completely differ now, and you know, it's just it's amazing.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: It's taking chances, days and a lot of so, you know,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: and my husband and I got together. He was living
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: in the Louisiana. I was living again in la We
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: took a chance and we moved to Florida after a
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: couple of years to start our business. Because Home Shopping Network,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: which is known as h M now it's branded as HCN,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: is located in Florida. So we see, you if we
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: moved here that it would really help our business move
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: it along, would be in front of the right people,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: and it did. But so many people are so complacent
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: where they live and what they do that they won't
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: take that chance. So it's one of the things I
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: always told long entrepreneurs and all people is that sometimes
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: you have what's the worst thing that will happen. You
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: can always go back home or back but it's where
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: you began. But if you don't take a chance at something,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: and people get struck in ruts and won't do it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: So when you talk about these people, I am sure,
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: and we interview with people, I am sure that they
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: all took chances, and there's some others that will do
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: that and some that won't. So I always like to
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: encourage people that it's cool, it's okay to go for it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Nothing bad will happen. You'll always wonder in your life
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: if you don't. Just like you doing the podcast, I mean,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: I'm sure it's amazing that you keep learning things, and
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: you know, it's amazing to interview people in here how
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: they've made it or how they've changed. And you know,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: I use the word reinvent. It's not even that I
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: started out to the event and he hasn't going to
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: get married. We both had to change, you know, directions
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: career for different reasons. You know I wasn't you know,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: I wasn't twenty one the sexy girl stuff anymore. Not
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: that I couldn't be the sexy older girl, but you know,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: you have to be real in where you are in
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: your life. And yet I didn't want to stop working.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: So it's just like, Okay, let me continue doing something
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: that is I love, near and dear to me. I
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: can still be myself, but it's just another extension of
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: myself and my husband as well. He's a businessman. He
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: had never done anything in the obviously apparel world, but
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: he just applied everything that he knew about business.
• 30:00
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• 30:06
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• 30:09
  Speaker 4: To what we're doing, same thing. So a lot of
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: people are just afraid to do that and no reason
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: to be. So, you know, living in my dream house
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: in Florida, I've got the five dogs very happy, and
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: we don't know where real life will take us next.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: The book is exciting because that's kind of taking me
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: on another journey. I'm getting offers to mix speeches and
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: appearances and some TV talk shows, and just hired a
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: publicist and he's got some really exciting plans and we're
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: to do a book signing in New Orleans the weekend
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: of October the twenty seventh. And then we're which is
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: a fun weekend because it goes almost right into Halloween.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: And then we're going to do a book signing here
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: in Florida Saint Petersburg, Tampa area the weekend of October fourteen. So,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: you know, just those two things I am so excited
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: about because I'm sure I'll get a lot of my
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: up on my fans. I'm sure i'll have some fans
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: from who watched me on Hcent and are big, you know,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: customers of my brand. So it's meat. You know, it's
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: just you just living life. I don't I don't look
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: back and go, gee, I wish I was still the
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: sage or I still wish I was. I just looked
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: forward and think, wow, I still got time to do
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: accomplish a lot more. Yeah, it's fun.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And you probably took a chance for writing
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: that book because you know, I have a friend of
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: mine who's a professional author, and he said, if you
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: actually think about writing a book and what it really is,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: he goes, you know, it's only been around for this
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: little sliver in human history and being able to, you know, write,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: write an actual book, put it together. And then he said,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: if you look at it again, in the world that
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: we live in now, Rhonda, you know, you can put
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: you make a kindle version, you can do self polishing,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: you can go to a publisher. You have a lot
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: of options. Yeah, that's even a smaller sliver. And he said,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: if you think about how it app actually what it
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: means to write a book, he goes, if you, as
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: a human being are sitting down and writing you know,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: five digits, you know, in words, So it's a couple
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: of thousands upon thousands of words and compliantly put together
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: all these thoughts. And I mean it's time consuming. And
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: I mean you you probably thought to yourself, you know, hey,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: I could write this book or I could go do
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: another thing. I mean, and so you really have to
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: make a choice.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: Thank you. I love that your son put it that way.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: I've never thought about it, but it's true, and I did.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: I did put it off for years and then I
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: because I've been wanting to do it, but I just
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: felt like it was the right time with everything that
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: was going on in my life. So finally I just
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: sat down I did have a ghost writer that kind
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: of put my thoughts into the right order, and then
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: I completely rewrote what he did and then he loved
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: what I did. I mean, I literally took it and
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: started not over, but just you know, it had to
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: have my voice completely. And then after that he then
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: took that and really pulled it together. So it was
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: a really you know, because I had never structured a book,
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: and as a new author, you really have to have
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: that right structure so you know, it holds people's attention.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: And it's my life because even when Tim Tim is
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: my Tim Vanda Hay is my ghostwriter's name, he's fabulous.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: I don't mind admitting it at all, but he he
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: just you know, really made me understand, you know, that
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: the process and again holding attention. And we went back
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: and forth of how because a lot of my seeing
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: start in one one part of my life, so it
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: kind of like goes back and it keeps going back
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: to certain stories. So I think that's where I needed help,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: because I would started saying if I start from the
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: very beginning, and it's going to get boring if I
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: just go through my life. So we did start, you know,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: we started, like you know, a certain birthday, and then
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: we told some stories there. So it's it's very compelling.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: I'm very excited about it. And again we put the
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: life lessons in and we also put is like basically
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: like a bubble over my head, so I express to
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: the reader what is going on in my head, like
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: even what I was thinking when I was in a
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: beauty pageant, you know, So how did I feel when
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: I was on stage and in front of an audience
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: with just a swimsuit on. Even although I was young,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: I never really you know, what was going on in
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: your mind. And I think that really gives an insight
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: to the people who read it of what was really
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: happening in my head and what motivated me to continue
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: to do what I did through life, and just really
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: excited about it. So the second book that I'm already
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: contocting in my brain is perfect because it has to
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: do with self, body image and how we look in
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: the mirror as women. So that covers my brand, but
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: it also covers you know, who I am, and then
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: how you know through life? You know, you gain weight,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: you lose weight, you know, you get women become self conscious,
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: but then you know, so it deals with them. I'm
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: going to do it with a lot of levity and
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: a lot of comedy. So I'm already putting thoughts down
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: about that. And then I could put a lot of
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: the story that I couldn't fit into the book. I
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: can add those stories back into because it was hard
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: when we edited it that I you know, a lot
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: of the stories I would have loved in were taken out,
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: but you can't put everything in. This way, I get
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: to put back a few of the stories and add
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: to it until some more tales because I do GISs
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: and tell a little bit in the book about some
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: of my Hollywood stories and people I dated, and that's
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: kind of fun. And it's not done viciously. It's just,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: you know, it's just just just real. There's nothing in
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: it that isn't one hundred percent authentic and real. So
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: but that's cool. What your friend said was the author
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I could see becoming very addicted to that now. When
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: I wrote my book, though, here was the only obstacle
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: I had. So I've got these four little schwallas in
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: New York. So I'm sitting there writing and they wouldn't
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: let me write at my desk, so I had to
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: write downstairs on the couch on the computer, and basically
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: they were climbing over me. So months and months of
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: dogs climbing. Now, I think that takes a special talent
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: to be able to have dogs on your computer and
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: write more so than anything. But it's a great seat
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: when you finish it and you find then the only
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: thing is this is when you need Sometimes I think
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: you definitely need an editor, but because you just like
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: don't know when you think it's over and then you
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: think of, oh, I have this one more thing, and
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: then you need you need that other eye, even outside
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: of my husband whoever read it, to look at it
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: and go, Okay, you're done, you don't need You'll write
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: again and you'll put it in there. So it is
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: an interesting process, especially your first book.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's funny because the friend of mine,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: who's an author, who actually said that to me, he
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: said the first because you know, he and I would
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: would talk back and forth and I've actually had him
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: on this podcast before and he said to me that
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: the hardest part about anything is actually starting it. And
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: I said, well, what's the second hardest part? And he
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: goes finishing it? And I said yes, because because you,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Like you said, you get stuck in the endless loop
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: of rewrites, like oh should I keep this now? Should
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: not get right? And then you just have to get
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: out your own head.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: I mean that's what I did. I completely rewrote, you know,
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: I completely rewrote it from scratch and and and then
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: it took a different turn. But you know, at the
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: end of the day, it's exactly where I want it
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: to be, because I think what it was desperately. It
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: was more autobiographical in the beginning. And I do have
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: a book agent, and even though self published it, we
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: may still bring it to, you know, major publishing house,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: which you can do now. And I do have a
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: book agent in Los Angeles. And when he first started,
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: it's great, it's autobiographical. I can't believe all the things
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: you've done in your life. It's amazing. But the big
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: publishing houses don't necessarily buy complete autobiographical books now. And
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: he's a really big book agent who deals with just
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: the big houses, you know. So he said, I think
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: it needs to have more insight, and I didn't know
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: how to do that at first. I didn't. I couldn't
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: figure it out. I couldn't figure out how to take
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: what I had already and then you know, make it insightful.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: So that's when we when I started thinking of the bubble,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: you know, like people always don't know what is that
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: person really thinking, you know, and so it became like
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: the bubble over my head. And then also each chapter
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: will have life lessons that I learned at that part
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: of my life. So it really give back to my
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: up I mean, it has my up all night ears,
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: it has my you know years as a miss Louisiana
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: and my New Orleans upbringing. I mean it's and that
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: in itself is interesting to grow up in New Orleans
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: and then finding love. So each each each chapter really
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: has something for everybody. Entrepreneur, I think will give a
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: lot of people insight to how to start a business
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: and how to keep going with it and not give up.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: So you know, I think, you know, it tells the
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: story of my life, but it also has lessons. I
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: think it's important to to, you know, even if someone
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: has no idea who I am, and they will pick
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: it up and just read, Okay, this is a woman
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: who you know. When I started if like I cann't
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: call it kind of the Bill Cosby years because when
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: I was in Hollywood. You know, we don't know what
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: who knows what happened and what didn't happen then, But
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: I can tell you I was in Hollywood in the
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: eighties and in that era, and guys would push themselves
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: on you, and they would say, if you don't sleep
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: with me, you are I will get you black ball
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: from the business. Now, I never went down that route.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: Maybe if I would have, I would have been a
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: bigger star. But it wasn't who I am. I always
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: kid about that if I was swept around, maybe you know,
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: it would have worked if it wasn't me. I was.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: I came from this nice, southern strict family and it
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: wasn't who I was. I mean, it just wasn't. You know.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: I had I had boyfriends, but they weren't you know.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: I never chose the big producer types that came after me.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: But we need some big, big ones came through my life.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: But no one was going to push that down my
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: throat and pardon upon.
• 40:02
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• 40:11
  Speaker 4: But you know it was I was not going down
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: that road of I had to live with myself, so
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: you know, everything I got I got on my own.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: I didn't have family in the business. I knew know
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: when when I first got to Hollywood, and literally I
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: just did it the old fashioned way of auditioning. Well, yeah,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: when you look at Hollywood today, this connection and it
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: is who your father and mother is. But I moved
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: here I didn't know it's all. So I'm proud of that.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: I'm proud that I got where I got on my own,
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: and you know, did get a name for myself and
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: did end up the headlining at a stand up comic
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: when I was told you're too pretty or you're too
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: sexy to be a comedian, and I was like, the
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: hell with that, I will do it. I stood in
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: line at the comedy store until I got on stage
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: in the amprov until finally I got all the way
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: up to headlining and bank. So I mean, I feel
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: like I really acomplished things that I wanted to and
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: pretty much the book talks about, you know, whenever anybody
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: would tell me I couldn't do something, it would make
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: me try harder. I mean, I've been told about my
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: whole life. I was I was either too or too
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: sexy to do this, or I was you know, ahead
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: of my time, do I stand up before dresses when
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: these firs know I was doing it? You had to
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: like be a flumpy mother or or you know, even
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: in even in my lingerie business, you can't do that.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: There's too many other brands out there. You can't start
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: who's going to buy your brand? So pretty much my
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: whole life has been you can't and and I have.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: So that just shows you that anybody can do it
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: if you if you just can't listen to negativity. And
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: I am a glass half full person, not a half
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: empty person. And I think that makes a difference just
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: who you are, you know. And so when I started
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: the book, I'm like, well, well, anybody read it? I
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: really feel like, you know, after having a few people
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: I have that have read it, they have, and people
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: that are like major people like you know, Son who's
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: one of the presidents at MGM, and he loves the book.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: And that really made me so good because these people
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: had a lot of a lot of manuscripts go past
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: their death. So who knows, maybe one day it'll be
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: a book, I mean, not a book, a movie, yes,
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: you know, not hopefully not a B movie. But I'll
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: take a B movie too. I'm falling with that.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: It would be really a meta if you actually introduced
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: it on like a special edition of USA Up All
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Night and you introduced your Moon movie.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Well, you know what's really funny, Dave, was the very
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: first thing I did on Up All Night was the
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: very first movie I ever introduced was, or rather on
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: USA all right, was Basic Training, which is a movie
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: I started which had like three seconds of toplessness, which
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: I was mortified to do at the time. It was
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: in my contract that it didn't have to be more
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: than three seconds. And of course I went on to
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: do play Light in ninety one called Girls of the
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: of Comedy, which I actually brought that idea to them,
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: and then that next year Up All Night had like
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: taken office, so they came back and offered me a
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: celebrity pictorial and so that was really cool. So you know,
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: I have you know, the book also talks about my
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: playboy years and going to the mansions. A lot of
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: people like that in itself, you know, because I did
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: go to the mansion for many many years. Actually I
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: had a line with Crystal Hefner a couple of years back.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: You know, Uh, I should say the last missus Hefno,
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: I believe the last Missus Hefstan who is still Missus Heffner.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: But you know, so you know, just just thwumps through
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: all those kind of interesting things.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: And along with you know, I do a lot of
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: charity work, and it talks about that giving back once
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: you've kind of hit a certain spot in life. You
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: we enjoyed my husband and I, you know, getting back
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: to the community and kind of hits all that.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: But you mentioned them. I'm sorry, have you mentioned the
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: comedy store. I just want to ask this for I
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: forget you mentioned the comedy store. Did you ever meet
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: a comedian there named Don Barrissy.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Doesn't name from what what how old or what era?
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: What era of he.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: He started in the nineties, like the early nineties. He
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: was there and now he's like the he does the
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: the he's the headliner on the Ding Dong Show on
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: the Monday nights.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Oh maybe that's why I may know the saying that
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: kind of and the probable I mean that would have
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: I still would have been out there, of course in
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: ninety one, because I mean I was still on the
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: still on the road, gosh, I mean I was on
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: the road until I mean I still actually occasionally do stuff,
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: but definitely up into like two thousand and six or seven,
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: I was still you know, out there. I guess I
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: know was name from that, but I can't say I remember,
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: like medium, I just don't. Why would Maybe I'm like,
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking like maybe I dated them, and I don't remember.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: He's been out there for years and he actually does
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: like a lot of work with the Comedies store every
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: night he's there, and.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, his name was really familiar to me absolutely.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Because he was like him and Mark Maren are really
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: good friends.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Okay, well, I am sure that we came across each other,
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: but that would have been during my up all night years.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: He's really funny, you know, and and I've met so
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: many people to my life, like the New Orleans and
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: then my comedy years and then of mine. Now a
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: power of years, I'll go, I know that name. There's
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: a there's a comedy comic out that's doing really well,
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: man nate out there now named Sebastian. Do you know
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: who he is? No? I haven't heard. Okay, if you,
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: if you, if you just google, Sebastian will come up comic.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: I can never pronounce his last name, right, but anyway,
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: he's major. He has like major like major shows, major showtime,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: all that stuff. And Sebastian he used to wait on
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: me as a waiter at the Fourth Seasons bar Woln't
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: go There was around the corner from my house in
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Beverley Health and it goes there. And he was funny
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: and he would say to me, I was thought up
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: all night at the time, and he would say, I
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: want to be you. You know, LA has a lot
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: of way those little actors, you know. I mean, it's
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: like the only one thing I didn't do, but you
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: know people that legitimately that's that's their job, that's their
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: day job, at their night job. And he would say,
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: I really admired. It's really sweet because he because I
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: would I admire. He was a female comic and he
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: when he took off, he took off. I mean he
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: really took off. And I didn't even realize it because
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: I've been so out of the loop myself just during
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: my own thing in the last few years. And then
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: I came across from like on social media, and I
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: was like, man, I'm proud of you. I mean, he
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: you know, because he said he was doing going to
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: do it, and he did it, and he's got a
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: whole different take. So yeah, I you know, stand up
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: comedy is a really rough road. Most of my friends
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: that even started, like I started in maybe four, but
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: most of my friends started in eighty four are still
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: doing stand up. People usually don't leave that world. And
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: the cool thing is you can get older and still
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: do comedy, but you just have to find kind of
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: different venues because you know, it is a younger world
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: at the comedy club. So then people move two ships,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: they do boats, they do you know, comedy cruises, they
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: do theater, you know, so you can keep at it.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: But I have to say I'm not I'm happy, David.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: I'm not out there on the road doing that for
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: a living. Although every now and then there's a piece
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: of me that, you know, my friend will come to town,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: Carol Montgomery, she's hysterical out of the walk and she
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: gets up at the club and I'll and I'll have
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: a couple of glass of wine and I'll be like,
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: I want to do what would you do? She's like, no,
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: you don't want to give up your life. Your life
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: is good, I said, But well it's still it's still
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: in my blood, you know, to make people laugh, and
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: it's still like game. Once it's in your blood, it's
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: your blood. But every now and then I do Rhonda's
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Pajama Party and then I'll host it and I'll do
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: some stand up and then I have like four other
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: females and sometimes I put a male comic in it.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: So maybe with the book coming out, we'll do that again,
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: which would be really cool.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say when the book comes
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: when the book comes out, if you do like a tour,
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: like you know, there are a to you get like
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: another taste of it. So then at the end round
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: he cried like, well, you know what, I got it
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: out of my system again. But now I'm gonna I'm glad,
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: I'm glad. I'm I'm not doing this again for intil
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: the next book right.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, but I do. But you know what I
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: love doing is just speaking tours. So I'm excited about
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: that because I did a lot of it during you know,
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: we want Arnston Young and all these major entrepreneurial awards
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: to the SPRA and I mean I didn't even think
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: about myself as an entrepreneur, you know, but all of
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: a sudden, We're winning all these awards and it was amazing.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: So I found myself being asked to speak locally and regionally,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, I'm getting up making these
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: speeches about being an entrepreneur, but I'm finny, and then
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: they're asking questions about my Hollywood background. So I really
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: enjoyed it. I mean, I had never done just speaking
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: without doing stand up obviously, so I'm really excited that
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: now I'm being submitted and being asked to speak, because
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: you know, there's there's there's a few comedic speakers, but
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: not many that can you know, just tell talk about
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: their life and how they did it. So I'm looking
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: forward to doing that. It's a little bit of stand
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: up and it's a little bit of you know, information giving.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: So I look forward to that too. That maybe who
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: knows that that may be the next the next sort
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: of stand up comedy. It'll just be you know, entrepreneurs
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: speak seeches and.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: You have to do like a different podcasts too, like
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: John Ley Dumas podcast Entrepreneur on Fire. I'm sure you've
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: heard of his podcast. Yeah, so it's like the one
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: podcast in the world right up there, Like Mark Maren's
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: and like, this is your American life. And but but
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: you know that's.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: Good, so you don't have to help me get This
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: is kind of all there to me too, you know,
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: when you have your head to you know, I have
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: been a very focused person in my world. So you know,
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: my life has been Women's Where Daily and the fashion
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: and so I'm pretty excited about opening this new chapter
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: of Like you said during podcasts, we'll.
• 49:59
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• 50:06
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• 50:08
  Speaker 4: I mean I did, Gilbert Godfreed. If you talk about dirty,
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: you're telling that can be uncensored if you ever go Google.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: I'm sure hopefully I'll do it again talk about my book.
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: But if you if you Google and find the Roches
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Share podcast with Gilbert Godfreed, you might it is beyond dirty.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: It is like I mean, he and I when we
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: get together, I don't know what it is, but he
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: brings out the naughty, and man, he's naughty, but he
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: think it's naughtier. It's pretty funny. I mean, you know,
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: I've had people say they were walking down the street
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: and listening to it and laughing out loud, and people
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: like staring at them. So yeah, I was pretty funny
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: because he could do impression. So I would name different guys,
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: you know, from my pastor in Hollywood, and then he
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: would go off and just do an impression of them,
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: and then you're just laughing, you know. So he's he's
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: one of the quotes on the back of my book
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: that you know, says to buy the book. And then
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: I have Mindy Grossman on the back, who's the CEO
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: of Weight Watchers and was the CEO of HSN, major
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: business person. And then I have Joymangano, who the movie
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: Joy was was written about, so pretty pretty exciting, and
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: plus a lot of other friends on the inside and celebrities,
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: but it kind of hit show business and entrepreneurs and
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: the CEOs. So I'm really excited. I know I'm talking
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: more about the book, but I guess it's just that
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: I'm really excited about it a lot with my line. Listen,
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: you know, please go to rondashare dot com, go to
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: HSN dot com check out. I have this full, amazing
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: line of everything from the most amazing undergarments to lounge wear.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: And I was really enjoyed. We literally designed everything in
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: house here in Florida. And then we manufacture all over
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: the world and a lot of a lot of my
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: most of my apparel, like my clothing is made in
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: the USA, and then a lot of my other pieces
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: are made in Turkey and we make it shine. But
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: we used beautiful factories with real high quality everything. So
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: that's very exciting too. And when you get into that world,
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: and that was listen to my husband and I taught ourselves.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: We didn't come from that world at all. I came
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: from a background show business. Next thing, you know, you know,
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: we're reaching out to factories, and you know, that was
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: quite an interesting time in our lives too. But again,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: you're never too old to read, to recreate it, to
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: reinvent and find another career and find love, find all
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: those wonderful things.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that that is such a wonderful signment, Ronda.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean I would definitely send you the
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: links to to the podcast I just mentioned.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Just check them out because please.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: I want I want to put it up for sure.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: There goes my dog. See they knew, they knew the
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: end of the podcast.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Feel we haven't talked.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: You're like, Mommy, I'm hungry. Yeah, I must, I must
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: acknowledge their names. We have Chicky, Tiki, Sweetie, Lexi, and
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: Brandy like two and a half are rescues. When I
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: got at a at a notion, she's kind of a
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: rest And.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: Now you mentioned your names are probably like now even
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: more eager because they're not the Probably they're probably like, what, yeah,
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: is it? Do we do something that you know what's
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: going on? But I will link to everything Randa that
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: you mentioned you you know your positive and everyone listening.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: I will link to everything that Randa mentioned the show
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: notes at Dave Bullis dot com. Yes, just quickly before
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: we before we sign off on this episode of the podcast,
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: I just have one final question, and I just want
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: to ask, is there anything that you might want to
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: just you know, talk about or discuss or is there
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: anything you wanted just to say to sort of sum
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: up this whole podcast interview.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, just coming up is like I am
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: a positive person. Everybody out there is to think positive
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: and try to run from negativity. I mean, just don't
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: surround yourself with negativity and don't listen. I mean always
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: I always like to say, put a stake in it
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: and go for it, and you're lying, enjoy your life,
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: Savor your life. I love food, I love everything. You know,
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: I in moderation obviously, you know, with my love fine wine.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: But I say, enjoy life, enjoy the journey of your
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: life and of your business, and then it's fun and
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: just don't be negative. So that kind of sums up
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: my life. And I've had a had a wonderful life
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: so far, and I hopefully it will continue to be amazing.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: Who knows where all ed up next? Maybe doing a podcast,
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: who knows, But but I thank you Dave. It's been wonderful.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: And I just I know you're gonna link, but I
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: do have a website too, or a web page of
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: rondashare speaks dot com. So that's for anybody who is
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: interested in having me as a speaker, along with rondashare
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: dot com and of course Amazon with the book, and
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: I know that you'll promote the rest. And I thank
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: you so much.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: My my pleasure, Ronda, Ronda, it has been so great
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: talking to you. Thank you, Dave, it really has.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: I used to watch us ample night all the time.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: I you know, I know I've already mentioned that, but
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: I thought I mentioned it again. I mean, because of you,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: I found the Toxic Avenger. And I've had Lloyd on
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: the Actually I had Lloyd on the show.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: I Love Lloyd. The last big film I did. He
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: was in it. We had a scene together. Oh and
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: I was like, I was like a like a bad
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: prisoner of course, because that's what it was. It was
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: what's the name of that film, I can't remember, but anyway,
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: but we actually won Best Film of the Best bet
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: Film of the Year. But anyway, I Love Lloyd. Lloyd
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: used to come on up all night, all the time,
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: and Toxi came on. I mean literally, he was one
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: of my regular guests. So he's he's a great guy,
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: isn't he brilliant? Brilliant man, great guy.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: It was funny really really really quick because I know
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: you have to run really quickly. When he came on
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: the podcast, he'd said that he started trauma in prison
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: with him and Michael Hurts because and he was like, well,
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: I was Michael's prison bitch, and he's like, you know,
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: we got married. Well, people who listened that podcast actually
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: wrote into me and they were like, Dave, is that true?
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: Did he really form this in prison? And I said no,
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: I said it would have been funny if he did.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: But I was like, you know, we should have put
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: a disclaimer before Lloyd's interview, being like, don't pay attention
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: to I think. Lloyd says, I.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: Know, I know, and he is so funny and so brilliant,
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: such a family man. I'm a great guy and and
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: really helped up on up all night because he supplied
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: this great films and you know he we had TOXI.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: What can I say. I'm not going to tell you
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: what a good lover he was. People don't believe that.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: To Randa, It's been an absolute pleasure talking.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: Thank you, and I'm sure we'll do it again anytime.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: Please thank you. Yeah.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: I was going to say when the second book comes out,
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: you have to come back.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: On You've got it, You've got it, or the next
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: time I'm hosting, or whatever we wint another reason I'll
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: look back on your show somehow.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Please, Rona, the door is always open. I thank you
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: so much, Thank.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: You, Dave, and please send me the link and I'll
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: talk to you soon.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: I want to thank Dave so much for doing such
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: a great job on this episode. If you want to
• 56:58
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• 57:00
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• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Thank you again so much for listening to guys.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: As always, keep that hustle going, keep that dream alive,
• 57:19
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