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"Dr Jekyll and The Hyde Amendment" (Monday, January 12, 2026, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: We need to work with the people that have the
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  Speaker 1: guns today to ultimately move the country to.
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  Speaker 2: A representative government at a better station.
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  Speaker 3: First thing today by Joe Thomas on the Chunk Media Network.
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  Speaker 6: gmail dot com. I want to get into this idea
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  Speaker 6: of a cap on interest credit card interests. The President,
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  Speaker 6: again doubling down on Sunday, saying credit card companies would
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  Speaker 6: be in violation of the law if they failed to
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  Speaker 6: comply with his demand by January twentieth for ten percent
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  Speaker 6: cap on interest rates. See, you know, here's the kind
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  Speaker 6: of thing. So what you don't understand is going to
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  Speaker 6: happen with this is that your credit card is going
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  Speaker 6: to be canceled. And we hear the part that we
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  Speaker 6: want to hear, but what's going to happen And this
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  Speaker 6: is very similar to Obamacare in the fact that you
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  Speaker 6: say we're going to cap interest rates, and the only
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  Speaker 6: way that the credit card companies are going to go
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  Speaker 6: along with this is if they get to increase the
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  Speaker 6: credit score requirements to get a credit card. And I'm
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  Speaker 6: not saying it's a bad thing, but much like drain
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  Speaker 6: the doge, we were getting rid of bureaucrats without getting
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  Speaker 6: rid of the laws that required the bureaucrats approval, which
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  Speaker 6: was causing problems, which was leading to what the Democrats
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  Speaker 6: were pointing to the chaos. So the Democrats, despite not
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  Speaker 6: having a majority in the House, blocked all meaningful reforms
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  Speaker 6: on legisla requiring bureaucratic oversight. And then when Dose started
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  Speaker 6: to cut back on the number of bureaucrats. The Democrats
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  Speaker 6: like Hakeem Jefferies could sit there and go, ah, look
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  Speaker 6: at the chaos. It's Trump just screwing everything up again
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  Speaker 6: because Mike Johnson couldn't carry the water he needed to carry.
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  Speaker 6: So what's going to happen with these interest rate caps
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  Speaker 6: on credit cards? Is a part that you don't realize,
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  Speaker 6: which is you're probably not going to qualify for that
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  Speaker 6: credit card. The thing about these high interest rate credit cards,
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  Speaker 6: and a lot of the folks on the left will
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  Speaker 6: call them predatory, is that they are offering high interest
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  Speaker 6: rates in exchange for low credit score requirements. More people
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  Speaker 6: qualify for the credit cards, and they pay higher rates
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  Speaker 6: because of the higher risk. It's not hard to point
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  Speaker 6: to the realities in all these things, and President Trump
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  Speaker 6: isn't wrong, but it's just it's one of those moments
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  Speaker 6: where it feels like something the American left would do.
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  Speaker 6: And it's not like it's in bad faith either. You
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  Speaker 6: just need to know what's coming with it. Meanwhile, Iran
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  Speaker 6: is on fire as more of the mostly peaceful protests
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  Speaker 6: take part in Tehran over the collapsed economy in the
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  Speaker 6: Islamic state. However, leaders of the Iranian government have reached
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  Speaker 6: out to the White House to have meetings regarding stabilizing
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  Speaker 6: their government. President Trump also said he's going to try
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  Speaker 6: to get the internet service back for the activists in
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  Speaker 6: The Eagle Forum on why there's such a backlash on
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  Speaker 6: the idea of being flexible quote unquote on the high Amendment. Chris,
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  Speaker 6: thank you for joining us this morning. How are you
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  Speaker 17: I'm doing wonderful, and as a former hockey or graduate
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  Speaker 17: of Virginia Tech, I am delighted to be on your show.
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  Speaker 11: Okay, let's go.
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  Speaker 6: I won't even begin to tell you. I have a
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  Speaker 6: by coach Bud Foster. So there you go. My gravitas
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  Speaker 6: goes deep in Blacksburg, though right now outside of people
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  Speaker 6: listening online, you know, we don't have an affiliate there,
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  Speaker 6: but we're working on it there. Chris, talk about this
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  Speaker 6: issue because it's like bad policy following worst policy in
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  Speaker 6: an effort to extend Obamacare, which is bad enough. Now
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  Speaker 6: we have to be flexible on a high amendment, which
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  Speaker 6: seems pretty clear. Just don't give my tax dollars to
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  Speaker 6: an abortionist. You know, I get the president's point about
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  Speaker 6: making a deal, but we shouldn't be making a deal
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  Speaker 6: on Obamacare subsidies in the first place.
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  Speaker 11: I couldn't agree with you more.
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  Speaker 17: I mean, the High Amendment, which is the ban on
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  Speaker 17: federal funding of abortion, has done around in play since
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  Speaker 17: nineteen eighty. It's not a question of being flexible on this.
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  Speaker 17: This is the bare minimum that pro life Americans and
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  Speaker 17: really all Americans should support.
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  Speaker 11: All it says is like, you can.
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  Speaker 17: Have your opinion on abortion, but you're not taking my
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  Speaker 17: tax dollars and using them to fund abortions. And under
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  Speaker 17: the Obamacare Act, there was a loophole that allows insurance
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  Speaker 17: companies to underwrite abortion. They're supposed to keep the money separate,
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  Speaker 17: but we know that never happens. It doesn't happen if
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  Speaker 17: you have two part time jobs, you're going to keep
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  Speaker 17: the money from one part time job separate from the other. No,
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  Speaker 17: it's all going into the same pot. It's all buying
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  Speaker 17: the same stuff. And so pro life Americans just said
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  Speaker 17: to the president is this is not something we're going
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  Speaker 17: to be flexible on.
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  Speaker 11: And you are so right. We shouldn't be funding these
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  Speaker 11: subsidies anyway, right, I mean, this.
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  Speaker 6: Is the thing that happens in Washington, as Ronald Reagan said,
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  Speaker 6: the closest thing to immortality as a government program. And
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  Speaker 6: as soon as we allowed Obamacare to sneak under the
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  Speaker 6: crack under the door. You know, it's become just accepted.
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  Speaker 6: We watched for four years President Trump waiting for a
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  Speaker 6: repeal and replace bill, which they passed thirteen of the
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  Speaker 6: year before he got into office, and it never materialized.
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  Speaker 6: They don't want to do it, and I don't know
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  Speaker 6: why they love campaigning on it. Chris, at what point
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  Speaker 6: does this start to cost Republicans politically because the Democrats
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  Speaker 6: certainly aren't going to campaign against it. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: do we need a third party that's actually going to
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  Speaker 6: stand up for the rights of the unborn.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, we need to do something, and I'm very pleased
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  Speaker 17: with the Republican leadership in Washington, DC, both in the
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  Speaker 17: House and Senate. They both said to the President. Look,
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  Speaker 17: this is a non starter. We are not going to
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  Speaker 17: give up. We are not going to start funding abortion
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  Speaker 17: the Democrat. Democrats claim that these subsidies don't fund abortion,
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  Speaker 17: but yet they won't allow a line in a law
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  Speaker 17: that clarifies it, that tells you everything you need to
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  Speaker 17: know right there. If they're fine with it not funding abortion,
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  Speaker 17: then let's make it perfectly clear that this is the case.
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  Speaker 17: And you know, people talk about this as if it's
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  Speaker 17: some great number of Americans, and you know, I'm on
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  Speaker 17: an Obamacare exchange, so this increases are going to hit
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  Speaker 17: me personally. But it's about four point five percent of
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  Speaker 17: Virginia and people who have health insurance that this will
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  Speaker 17: affect the majority of people get it from their employer
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  Speaker 17: or get it from medicaid or Medicare. But I'll tell
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  Speaker 17: you what, These subsidies increase the costs on everybody, because
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  Speaker 17: anytime the government subsidizes something, the costs go up.
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  Speaker 11: And so.
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  Speaker 17: We don't want the bottom line is no abortion funding
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  Speaker 17: number one.
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  Speaker 11: But don't even extend these things. It The proof is
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  Speaker 11: in the pudding.
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  Speaker 17: This is an unaffordable care Act and it's not going
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  Speaker 17: to make it more affordable by funding abortion or by
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  Speaker 17: pouring another eighty, you know, billion dollars into the program.
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  Speaker 6: Chris Olman is on with this from the Eagle Forum,
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  Speaker 6: and it's quick reminder the High Amendment got three I
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  Speaker 6: think it was like three hundred votes in a Democrat
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  Speaker 6: controlled Congress when it first passed. So this isn't even
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  Speaker 6: like arts conservatives on the March pro you know, this
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  Speaker 6: is a bill that passed a Democrat controlled House of representatives.
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  Speaker 6: I think Tip O'Neil was Speaker of the House when
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  Speaker 6: it passed.
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  Speaker 17: Absolutely and the Supreme Court in nineteen eighty said it
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  Speaker 17: was legal to ban federal funding of abortion, and President
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  Speaker 17: Trump campaigned on supporting the Heidamendment, supporting the ban on
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  Speaker 17: federal funding right now.
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  Speaker 11: Unfortunately, what we know.
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  Speaker 17: Is that this language has to be passed every single
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  Speaker 17: year by every Congress, and it has been for the
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  Speaker 17: last forty five years. President Trump committed to making it
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  Speaker 17: permanent laws, so we don't have to have written into
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  Speaker 17: every single spending bill.
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  Speaker 11: So he's been a long time supporter.
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  Speaker 17: He's on the record his comments that we need to
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  Speaker 17: be flexible on this are very disappointing. But yet the
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  Speaker 17: White House came out over the weekend and said no, no, no,
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  Speaker 17: he's opposed to federal funding of abortion. So what we
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  Speaker 17: really need to do is contact House and Senate members
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  Speaker 17: and tell them, under no circumstances are you to vote
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  Speaker 17: for a bill that will fund abortion with these subsidies. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 17: one Republican did last week, Wetman. I think he's out
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  Speaker 17: of the Yorktown area first Congressional District. Seventeen Republicans voted
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  Speaker 17: to extend the subsidies without the ban on federal funding.
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  Speaker 11: It's going to the Senate.
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  Speaker 17: I know I don't have any hope in Cain and Warner,
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  Speaker 17: but you know, we just need to make our voices heard.
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  Speaker 17: Those of us who care about fiscal responsibility and care
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  Speaker 17: about not funding.
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  Speaker 6: Abortion well, and this becomes the thing. Chris Holman. Best
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  Speaker 6: place for people to visit Eagle Forum online before we
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  Speaker 6: go too much.
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  Speaker 11: Further, eagleforum dot org.
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  Speaker 6: So you know, the point is if you believe in something,
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  Speaker 6: whatever it may be, and I always ask my friends
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  Speaker 6: on the left to imagine, you know, being forced with
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  Speaker 6: your tax dollars to fund a municipal firing range, and
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  Speaker 6: that always kind of it's like a smack in the head.
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  Speaker 6: us again. It's Egleforum dot org. Chris, what role? And
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  Speaker 6: Well, and that becomes another one of these moments where
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  Speaker 17: I don't think so. It's the same every day. It's
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  Speaker 17: about seven percent of the people of healthcare and enrollees,
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  Speaker 23: By these subsidies, but they've got they can't give up
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  Speaker 17: Republicans are at a point where the Democrats are admitting
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  Speaker 23: No?
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  Speaker 6: Literally ad nauseum. Sometimes when you read them and you
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  Speaker 8: The wind and the wires made of tattletale selling in
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  Speaker 8: the wave them.
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  Speaker 6: Every man, you have the Captain Bis the witch love stealing.
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  Speaker 6: Oh it's a great idea, right, So we'll put some
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  Speaker 6: big turbines out in the ocean and all those winds
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  Speaker 6: that blow, except for when they don't blow, we'll generate
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  Speaker 6: all the energy we will ever need. Their Craig Rucker
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  Speaker 6: on with us from sea fact as we watch truly
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  Speaker 6: under the banner, Baptists and bootleggers Craig as the electric
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  Speaker 6: utilities they get money to. Both Republicans and Democrats are
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: now complaining, saying the President has pulled funding for something
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  Speaker 6: that isn't going to work, but we've already spent a
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  Speaker 6: lot of money for it and now we're halfway through
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  Speaker 6: building it. How are you doing this morning, first off, sir,
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  Speaker 6: and how's everything going at sea? Fact, it's going peachy.
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  Speaker 22: Thank you for having me on the program. Joe, I
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  Speaker 22: will say that, you know, I think these big utilities
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  Speaker 22: kind of knew what the what was in store for
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  Speaker 22: them when Trump got elected. They what he issued an
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  Speaker 22: executive order stopping offshore when some of them decided they
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  Speaker 22: would proceed with continuing to do it, even if they
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  Speaker 22: had shaky permits that they knew that Biden rushed through,
• 45:42
  Speaker 22: and they had lawsuits that were pending that could have
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  Speaker 22: gone against them and still can because you know, the
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  Speaker 22: judges gave standing, for example, to our suited dominion's case,
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  Speaker 22: and the dominion just said, you know, we'll roll the
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  Speaker 22: dice and see what happens. Well, they rolled the dice
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  Speaker 22: and it, you know, and do so well. So they're
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  Speaker 22: kind of reaping the rewards of what they sew did,
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  Speaker 22: so I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for them.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it is truly a case of yeah, I hate
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  Speaker 6: to point this out, but I do anyway, that they're
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  Speaker 6: out there gas lighting the residents of all these states,
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  Speaker 6: Virginia included that. You know, they're telling these rate payers
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  Speaker 6: you're going to have to pay more because Trump's going
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  Speaker 6: to make us stop building these wind turbines, even though
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  Speaker 6: a previous law said we had to. But now Trump's
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  Speaker 6: just don't build the damn things and don't tell us
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  Speaker 6: that we have to pay more because you're not building something.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, how do they get away with this kind
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  Speaker 6: of gas lighting?
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  Speaker 22: Well, you know, their argument is kind of I see
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  Speaker 22: where they're coming from. What they're saying is we squandered
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  Speaker 22: a lot of money on this your money, great payer money, right,
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  Speaker 22: and we may well see it through the completion, even
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  Speaker 22: though it's going to continue costing you exorbitant amounts of
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  Speaker 22: money to keep it in operation. And therefore, you know, okay,
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  Speaker 22: admittedly it's bad, it's going to be expensive, but you know,
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  Speaker 22: we already cast the die. So let's just keep paying
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  Speaker 22: absorbit in costs for electricity. Let's go ahead and decimate
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  Speaker 22: our coastlines. Let's kill the fishing industry because we've already
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  Speaker 22: invested in it. But now that's a ridiculous idea.
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  Speaker 3: The time.
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  Speaker 22: What they ought to do is, yes, they should admit
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  Speaker 22: and take responsibility for having made very bad decision, cut
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  Speaker 22: their losses, and move to energy sources. I mean, we have,
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  Speaker 22: you know, a tremendous need for electricity, especially in Virginia
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  Speaker 22: with all the different data centers that they're talking about
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  Speaker 22: putting in in the Tyson's Corner area and you know,
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  Speaker 22: toward Loudon County. You know they're going to need real energy,
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  Speaker 22: not this offshore when intermittent, highly expensive, unreliable electricity. You know,
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  Speaker 22: investing in natural plants, nuclear plants, things that you know,
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  Speaker 22: basically Russia and China and every civilized country that's actually
• 48:06
  Speaker 22: has a booming economy invest in as opposed to the
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  Speaker 22: opposite way.
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  Speaker 6: Sh don't mention all the places that have good economies
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  Speaker 6: because that just hurts our feelings. It's see fact dot org.
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  Speaker 6: You know, Craig Rucker is on with us, and Craig,
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  Speaker 6: let's let's begin with you know that at the core
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  Speaker 6: of this, which is this is scientism run amok. This
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: is just like COVID and the COVID shots and and
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: all of that. When the government gets in bed with
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: science to uh, you know, as as our friend doctor
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  Speaker 6: Malone has said, when government gets in the business of science,
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  Speaker 6: they come in and say, here's the answer. We want
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  Speaker 6: you to get. Go get some equations that will get
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  Speaker 6: us there. Whether they work out or not, we just
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  Speaker 6: need to get to the answer. That's what you know.
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  Speaker 6: All this offshore wind and solar fixation is it's governments science.
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  Speaker 22: Exactly. And if you want to pinpoint it even more, Joe,
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  Speaker 22: what you've got to look at is the climate science.
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  Speaker 22: And basically it's a belief that we're gonna face imminent
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  Speaker 22: catastrophe for climate change. And of course they.
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  Speaker 16: Keep changing the date.
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  Speaker 22: Initially it was around twenty then twenty ten, then twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 22: and now AOC says it's twenty thirty and then there
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  Speaker 22: will be the end. But it's you know, we see
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  Speaker 22: that everything they predicted did not come true. So I
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  Speaker 22: would be of the opinion that if somebody continued to
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  Speaker 22: make very bad prognostications of what the future is and
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  Speaker 22: they're wrong every time, I would stop listening to them.
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  Speaker 22: But that's not the way the government has now. Fortunately,
• 49:44
  Speaker 22: Trump just last Wednesday pulled us out from a lot
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  Speaker 22: of these scientism type organizations you mentioned in fact sixty
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  Speaker 22: six un entities right, and organizations and treaties or agreements.
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  Speaker 22: I guess you could say he pulled out of and
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  Speaker 22: including one of them called the Inner Governmental Panel on
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  Speaker 22: Climate Change. And for those who have not heard that,
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  Speaker 22: it's called the IPCC for short. It's kind of God
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  Speaker 22: when it comes to climate side. Basically, if God speaks,
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  Speaker 22: everybody has to listen. Well, Trump pulled us out of that.
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  Speaker 22: We're not going to be funding it, and praise the
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  Speaker 22: Lord because that is a terrible organization that we should
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  Speaker 22: never have been listening to. Totally got the science wrong
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  Speaker 22: time and time again. And of course the al Gore
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  Speaker 22: and them are having condictions over this, but I think
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  Speaker 22: it's going to help our economy and help our country
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  Speaker 22: go down the right path as opposed to this climate alarm,
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  Speaker 22: big wind. You know, electric vehicle everybody has to get into,
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  Speaker 22: get rid of our hair dryers, gas stoves, all that
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  Speaker 22: sort of thing.
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  Speaker 6: Well, but it goes back and my wife was asking
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  Speaker 6: me about or coming back from lost wages for the
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: Consumer Electronics Show, and we were talking about all these
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: fixations and they said it all comes down to rationing. Rationing.
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  Speaker 6: They want to ration everything. They want you to fill
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  Speaker 6: out a form and then they will determine whether you
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  Speaker 6: can have electricity for whatever it is you're asking for. Craig,
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  Speaker 6: am I wrong.
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  Speaker 22: Now you're right. And as a matter of fact, a
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  Speaker 22: number of the things that Trump signed to get us
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  Speaker 22: out to aren't just rationing electricity like you mentioned, and
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  Speaker 22: rationing everything else. They have two organizations that he got
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  Speaker 22: us out of. One's called the International Council and Population
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  Speaker 22: and Development. They actually want to limit the numbers of
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  Speaker 22: people on the planet. They actually have an ideal. And
• 51:40
  Speaker 22: then you have this other one that he got us
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  Speaker 22: out of called the Habitat Conference. Now habitat is un
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  Speaker 22: speak for cities. People may have heard of these fifteen
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  Speaker 22: minute cities, and they want to get you in tiny
• 51:51
  Speaker 22: houses and things like that. Right, the you end is
• 51:53
  Speaker 22: actually wanting you to ration the size of your family,
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  Speaker 22: ration the size of your house where you can live.
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  Speaker 22: Really kind of top down management of the entire you know, civilization,
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  Speaker 22: and you know these are the things they are tinkering with.
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  Speaker 22: And yeah, it's all about right, just as you said.
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  Speaker 6: See fact dot org. The Committee for Common Sense Tomorrow
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  Speaker 6: or a not common sense Committee for a constructive Tomorrow.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Craig, I always managed to trip up on
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  Speaker 6: that second scene there. Find out about their rodeo coming
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  Speaker 6: up in February. Craig, I always appreciate your visits, my friend.
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  Speaker 6: You have a great morning.
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