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Broken schools, broken minds: Arkhub can restore sovereignty, curiosity, and real learning · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  My friend, because this is whole.
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  It's time and since all right.
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  Welcome back to another great show of the Nurses Report with your host.
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  I'm back again, Nurse Gail McCrae.
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  I'm pleased to have you joining me today.
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  And as per the usual, I am continuing to gravitate towards these conversations of mindset and aligning our mindsets and developing the foundational education to help align our mindsets.
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  And as many of you know, with a background of being homeschooled, I have kind of an unusual background with uh my views on mindset and how developing mindsets in children and in humanity uh really play such a huge and pivotal role in uh the way that our societies function, and that in itself is one of the primary reasons why I have chosen to uh do this show in the first place because my lifetime experiences have led me to understand the extraordinary importance and value of facilitating healthy mindsets and how we do that and how the educational processes of developing our mindsets can create or break not just the relationships that we have with our peers and our professions, but even the relationships that we have with our families, and as we have watched over my lifetime, uh a significant decline in the United States uh and probably around the world in the value that we put on collaboration and the development of healthy relationships and healthy boundaries and communication of our needs and the quality of education that we receive in order to make all of those decisions about our relationships.
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  And so that is again stemming me forward into this conversation that I uh am so excited to have today with a colleague and really quite incredible human being, uh Joanna Mughal, who is one of the founders of uh Arc Hub, which is a up-and-coming platform for accessing educational resources and developing educational resources.
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  Uh, she helps educate authors and organizations to turn their deep knowledge into strong and lasting digital products, like books, classes, and online portals.
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  Uh, with over 30 years of experience in technology systems and digital platforms, she focuses on making knowledge easy to deliver, maintain, and grow.
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  She aligns content, technology, and strategy in education, media, and professional training.
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  Uh, some of her other roles that facilitate how she thrives in this expertise that she's creating, is that she was the founder of uh Clear Lantern Media, which is a boutique agency that provides strategic support for authors, creators, and intellectual property uh for publishing films and media, as well as a former senior literacy agent at uh Waterside Productions, uh specializing in technology, health, and wellness.
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  So her unique strengths really bring such a powerful um foundation to the development of this uh entity called Arch Hub, which from my professional opinion is such an important thing for us to be working with in this time in this period we find ourselves in where we're seeing so much not only polarization in the world, but the failures of our educational institutions, and even if they're not failures per se, even if they were designed to create the outcomes in education that we currently have.
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  Whatever your views are on how it came to be, we know that the failures are propagating uh a real decline, not just in wellness, as we've all noted, we have the most chronically ill population in the world uh in the developed world here in the United States, while we simultaneously spend more on healthcare than any other country in the world.
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  Uh, and really this comes back to failed educational systems.
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  So thank you so much for coming on today, Joanna.
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  And uh, if you could just add to the introduction or tell us a little bit more about why it is, what drove you to start this uh company and um and where you're going with it.
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  Oh, thanks, Gail, and thank you for the introduction, and also thank you for all of the work you're doing.
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  I just want to see I really admire you stepping out in all the ways you have, and you're an excellent communicator, and I think you're the perfect voice to be doing what you're doing.
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  So thank you for that.
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  Um, how did I get here?
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  How did we get here?
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  Well, uh education, believe it or not, let me just back up for a second.
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  Uh, technology and books are sort of my wheelhouses where I where I've spent a lot of my time, and one uh preceded the other.
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  I started in technology.
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  I morphed into doing books after I went through a health about myself and started questioning, you know, what makes people heal.
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  And started questioning, you know, what makes people heal.
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  And that's kind of what got me into books because there's so much, there's so many miraculous stories of people healing, and it's sometimes hard to understand what that's all about.
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  And that's kind of what got me into books because there's so much, there's so many miraculous stories of people healing, and it's sometimes hard to understand what that's all about.
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  So I became really fascinated just with the whole topic.
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  So I became really fascinated just with the whole topic.
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  So I started uh agenting books in the space, uh, helping people get those books out, and also um realize, you know, over.
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  So I started uh agenting books in the space, uh, helping people get those books out, and also um realize, you know, over the in particular over these last five years where health has kind of come to the forefront how challenging it is to articulate those things, you know.
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  So it's not, as you said, it's not always about like you know, how did we get here?
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  But but here we are, and how do we get out of it?
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  Or how do we kind of find new tools to combat this uh an onslaught of overload, digital overload, you know, um, everything's coming at us so fast, and we're supposed to be able to make decisions and choices, and we are uh under uh um underwhelmed, I think, in the ways that we have that the tools that are given to us to do that.
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  So I and I think in the last year or two in particular, we've hit a place where um people are getting fatigued from the divisiveness and the and the negative sort of like rhetoric of all the things that are wrong.
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  And I think people are starting to look now more for solutions.
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  I mean, that's just been my my impression.
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  So that's a long answer to your question, but um so I Rich and I started uh working in this space almost a decade ago.
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  He my husband and he he is the co-founder along with me of Arch Hub, and he also spent a lot of time in overseas education, um, bringing people to the United States from other countries because the United States has a very privileged uh position with its education, but unfortunately the dichotomy is that you have this amazing um institutionalized education and that we're famous for, but then you have people who are marginalized from that system and have no way of accessing it or making use of it.
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  And so what we wanted to do was to create a decentralized model of education that allowed participation at a I don't know if democratized is the right word here, but at a level where everyone could could participate, where the the where you didn't have to have privileged access in order to access education or to be part of the delivery of education.
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  So that's kind of the the premise that we can start with.
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  That's a great uh model and foundational uh point to work from because I think that everyone can agree all politics aside, everyone should have access to education, and I can clearly see how the centralization of primarily our grade school educations, um they're really geared towards rules and um targeting the lowest level of learners, uh, and just offering um a base of education that doesn't really stimulate the senses, you know.
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  And that's what I think of when I think of the work that you're doing with the decentralization of this platform is you're offering opportunities to stimulate the senses and to really um grab onto the learners that have grown up seeing these systems that are very structured and square and directed towards a very specific type of learning style that doesn't actually meet a majority of the students' um ideas, and that and again, that's one of the reasons why I feel so drawn towards alternative education modalities because we don't we don't um identify the fact that a majority of the students and learners, whether they're children or adults, don't fit into the model of learning that our traditional systems have created, and so your platform is kind of like uh a broader scope to entice learning from a more truer sense of the meaning of the word in addressing the real um interests and capturing the spirit of learning that I think people so many people have lost.
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  There are so many people who think I just am not good enough to learn.
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  I going to college is not I I would never be good at it.
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  It's not in and that's and and those are mindsets I think that have been developed specifically because of the learning platforms that we have systemically and traditionally applied, which is what really draws me to your platform because you're looking to break that mold and offer learners the diversity and the um the support to identify their own learning capacity, you know, like let's break down some of these models of I can't and I'm not and replace them with support, supportive um diversity in the learning potentials, and that's what I have experienced with Archiv is that it's so welcoming to every learning style and to every um type of personality, regardless of um of your of your strengths and weaknesses, and uh, and that's something I want I want us to really start to analyze is when we're looking to educate and break down these models that are broken that are not working for us.
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  Of your of your strengths and weaknesses.
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  And uh, and that's something I want I want us to really start to analyze is when we're looking to educate and break down these models that are broken that are not working for us.
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  This is how we erupt into a better functioning system.
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  This is how we erupt into a better functioning system.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So this is like cutting edge.
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  So this is like cutting edge.
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  Well, thank you.
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  Well, thank you.
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  That yeah, that's a that's a great um.
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  That yeah, that's a that's a great um positioning of this because two things.
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  One there, I think of them, these boxes you're talking about.
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  I also think of it in terms of a ceiling or a wall.
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  You're gonna hit us as a child, you you very quickly hit that ceiling or wall, probably at a moment when you've discovered something that you are good at, right?
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  I mean, you have kids, you know, it's like you watch them get on fire with something and you just want to let them go.
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  But the system, you know, right now, our system doesn't really support that.
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  So, um, so that's the one thing we really want to make a runway for for kids so they can come on and and they can go and explore, and then when they find something they hook into, then they can just keep going and keep going, which is the beautiful thing about homeschooling, because you know, you hear stories of kids who are 14, 15 years old who've eaten up all the material and something that would normally be done at a college level, right?
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  Yeah.
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  So that's that's happening, number one.
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  Number two, we want to also create a structure for the parents, which is something that the homeschooling community struggles with.
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  And I mean, I I belong to several Facebook groups, for example, of parents who are homeschooling, and they're all scrambling to find to find content, you know, to find curriculum.
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  And that's just one piece of it.
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  And I'm sure you can speak to this even more.
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  The second piece is well, how do I organize all that curriculum into one place?
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  And then how do I put it together?
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  So I if my if my child is going to college, I can present it to the college and say, well, here's the kind of resume of all the things that my child has done homeschooling-wise.
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  And then finally, how do you fund this?
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  I mean, we've we've become a culture of crowdfunding a lot of different things, but we've yet to crowdfund homeschooling resources.
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  And I think that's where we're going next is allowing cohorts of families to build a portal, let's say for themselves, um, for you know, five families, ten families, and say, hey, we want to hire a geometry teacher or a history teacher.
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  And here on our cub, we can see there's open you, we call it open use curriculum, which we've gone out and found and curated and brought in and delivered to people, but but to bring it to life, you need an educator.
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  I mean, you still need the old school model of like, I think anyway, someone to teach it to answer questions to bring some vitality to the experience, not just everything is a self-paced online thing.
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  You know what I'm saying?
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  Yeah.
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  So yeah, that's a great point.
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  And before we really get into the nuts and bolts, because I think a lot of the listeners would be like, Well, what is Arch Hub?
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  I wanted to just touch on the struggle of finding content for homeschooling families that you mentioned, because having experienced that as a child and now having to manage it as an adult for my children, it really is a thing.
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  You know, we're constantly that's one of the primary reasons that I, as a homeschooling parent, go on to these Facebook groups is to try and reach out and find other parents and say, hey, what what curriculum do you like?
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  What is it that can inspire my kids?
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  And I'll tell you, more times than not, uh, I end up, you know, getting something that I'm not really that happy with.
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  And it's interesting, you know.
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  Part of it I think has to do with the fact that as this is also new to us, um, we're still kind of stuck with one foot in this system of shoving, you know, like math curriculum and old fashioned textbooks down our kids' throats in a way that just doesn't inspire them.
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  And that's a big part of it for me as a mother of children that I'm educating.
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  I want to inspire my kids.
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  I want them to feel inspired when they pick up a book.
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  I want them to look at a subject and think, oh my goodness, I can't wait to get into that.
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  And um, and and with that is a real concern, uh, that's really uh a lot of the the reason why I am so excited to talk with you more about Arch Hub because I think that this really could be a revolutionary tool for families.
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  So let's get into it a little bit about um, you know, what is Arch Hub and how does it work?
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  Okay, sure.
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  So our Arch Hub is a uh, as I mentioned in the beginning, it's a decentralized education platform, which is a which is really just a term for not centralized, meaning that the users not only can consume from the site, but can contribute to the site.
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  So as an as an independent educator, you can do three things.
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  You can come and create a course, you can create a course and resell it.
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  So, like if it's a self-paced course or even a live one, and you think it's of good value, and you want to say, I'm gonna let other people also either market my course or use it on their portal, um, all of that is possible.
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  And then the third thing is we're like I'd mentioned creating a library of open use uh material so that you as an educator can come and teach that because maybe you're a great teacher, but you're not a good um instructional designer.
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  And what that means is like you don't have the bandwidth or the skills to like design a class, like and everything.
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  So we want to have that as a tool ready for you.
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  So um what's new and what I think is it is the thing that you're talking about that will be innovative in the sense of how we how do we get families to come and participate?
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  Well, um a family or like a set of families, or I I mean, you can talk more to this than me about how you work in your community homeschooling-wise, but you can literally set up a school and it can be a collaborative effort with other families and you guys can together like fund a class.
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  Uh all of the financial stuff is very flexible in terms of um, you know, kind of preloading so that if you have 20 kids coming to a class, one person can pay the whole thing, or parents can come and each pay, or we so we're we're really like I don't want to whitewash or talk over the fact that that resources are an issue here because you know, when you send your kids to public school, that that everything is covered, and a lot of people I know from you know, from working in this space struggle with that.
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  or we so we're we're really like I don't want to whitewash or talk over the fact that that resources are an issue here because you know when you send your kids to public school that that everything is covered and a lot of people I know from you know from working in this space struggle with that that's a reality not just the financial cost but the time you know of that it takes for a family to say well we're gonna homeschool how am I gonna fit that into my you know earning money and having a job and doing the other things I'm doing if that's also what you know so it's a double hit in a way yeah so that's you can probably so anyway that's kind of the platform model um anyone can come to the site register as a user register as what we call just an org and an org can be any type of organization it can you can just be a group of people who want to build a school so that's how you start and then um if anybody needs help where we're there there is always a little chat bot and we can we can help anybody with onboarding I mean we really want to support the homeschooling community and and are open to ways that we're not aware of that people can use it as well.
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  That's a reality, not just the financial cost, but the time, you know, of that it takes for a family to say, well, we're gonna homeschool.
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  How am I gonna?
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  Wow that's so exciting uh I definitely can attest to that in that the in the expenses and the cost uh it's it's interesting people tell me a lot a lot of times they say oh you know that's good for you I'm glad you're homeschooling I could never do that and um it's hard for me to hear that because I understand the sacrifice that my family has made to do it um it is a huge sacrifice and uh although certainly some people have more privilege than others in terms of you know being wrapped being able to wrap your head around how a family could make that work um I have a couple of ideas for families I'll just throw it out there if you're a family and you have that mindset of oh I couldn't do it um if it's a possibility for you to move there are many states in this country that offer uh when you mentioned the um public school costs right we pay our tax dollars to go to to send our kids to public schools and in most states if you don't send your kid to a public school you don't get that benefit but there are many states in the country where you actually can apply to receive the uh monies that would be going towards your child were they in a public school uh if you choose to homeschool uh I know off the top of my head uh two of those states that that occurs in our New Hampshire and Florida I know there are many more um and that will bring some relief to those families who uh so here in Florida um you know we get a large stipend of money per child per year and it would be very easy for us to access uh something like our hub uh in terms of using it as an educational platform not just uh in groups but individually and especially as the children get older um like you had mentioned earlier uh you know the the the families who do homeschool their kids tend to really delve deeply into certain topics and max out the high school level by often by the age of about 13 or 14 at whatever topic it is they're interested in and then start uh working towards more higher higher levels of education and that's something too that I think our hub really would blossom in is the high school age range because you're you're able to uh really um flourish the development of these kids who have really uh intense interests into areas that uh that they've completed high school curriculums on and they're ready for advanced knowledge and that's something I really uh appreciate about Arc Hub is that you have a full range of education although possibly the lower grades might not be quite as active there's the still the option of offering pod learning and getting teachers in and kind of like almost like starting it sounds like you could almost like start um like a small portion of their overall education through the archive platform which is really exciting because I think a lot of families want that collaboration and um having a platform that offers uh the support to um to facilitate that work just sounds so revolutionary and uh that's what I love about this work is it's you're offering the potential to revolutionize education in a time when it's so badly needed yeah it it is and it's um uh gosh so many things um if if uh if if this pod idea is is very powerful and and it would be great as you're talking I'm thinking about you know um it would be really great if on our cub we we could feature the states and those policies um that are you know that are available to you like what resources do you have if you I think Arizona has it as well I and and so and more states are getting on board with this as those numbers literally millions of people in the last five years have left the the the you know public school system right it's it's a high number skyrocketing yeah yeah so I think I think that um providing those services on our cub can be useful I mean anything that we can do to you know um encourage people to come here and and and I think like you said in the very beginning here uh Gail collaboration is is kind of a it it seems to work well in the institutional models but for individuals who are who are living a more freedom centered life if lack of a better expression tend to have trouble collaborating.
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  I mean it's just a thing like so if we can if we can create a structure for that um that's online you know that the the c the learning doesn't have to be online but if you can if you can uh put the stuff in a place that's organized and you can share it and you can display what you've completed and that you know that's all stuff that takes a I think takes a burden away from the family so they can focus on the education and not scrambling to find the tools you know to to to organize it.
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  A structure for that's online, you know, that the the c the learning doesn't have to be online.
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  But if you can, if you can uh put the stuff in a place that's organized and you can share it and you can display what you've completed and that you know that's all stuff that takes uh I think takes the burden away from the family so they can focus on the education and not scrambling to find the tools uh you know to to organize it.
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  So
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  So definitely it's uh it's so wonderful to um find access to these materials, and that's that's uh part of you know what I love about this is like let's just continue to search and discover for new tools that offer people revolutionary ideas to reconsider what they thought they knew to be true and uh offer some alternatives and um find a way to rediscover what we think is possible, uh, especially around the educational system, because uh again as we have are becoming more and more aware of the failures in these traditional systems and people more and more reach towards alternative education, like for instance myself.
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  I was homeschooled, but it was not my intention to homeschool my children.
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  Uh, I had planned to send them to uh the first few years of their lives, they were in um a Waldorf school.
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  And you know, it was a private um school that we had access to in our community, and um I was working my butt off because I was just a professional.
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  Uh I was I was working as a nurse.
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  I was in graduate school to become a nurse practitioner.
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  Um, my husband and I owned um a couple of investment properties that were multiplexes that we managed.
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  Uh, my husband worked full time as an engineer.
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  Like we were so busy, like I had never even thought twice about whether like what kind of education I was gonna have to offer my kids.
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  So when the time came and and I and I realized, oh my goodness, I can't have them in these systems anymore.
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  And I I started to really understand from my experiences how much our traditional educational systems really diminish the capacity of our abilities to learn and not just our our abilities, but our beliefs in ourselves in our abilities to learn.
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  So that's where really where it starts.
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  It's like when you are taught that your ability to learn is you know this big and you spend a whole lifetime believing that it totally destroys uh the creative capacity of expansion.
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  And I'm just made of that capacity because I was homeschooled, and and when you start to realize the difference and the value that that adds, it just brings me so in honor of the work that you're doing at Art Arch Hub because specifically you are addressing these deficiencies that I believe have the potential to change the course of humanity.
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  So we're gonna take a quick break and then we're gonna come back and discover more about the um offerings that your um platform is working with.
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  So we'll be right back.
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  All right, welcome back to this wonderful afternoon, morning, evening, wherever you are with the Nurses Report.
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  And today I am here with one of the founders of Arch Hub, uh having a great discussion about the evolution of education and how exciting that is for me as uh somebody who's so passionate about expanding our access and resources to quality education, because it's my personal opinion that the failures of our educational system are what led to the mass formation that enveloped.
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  A great discussion about the evolution of education and how exciting that is for me as somebody who's so passionate about expanding our access and resources to quality education because it's my personal opinion that the failures of our educational system are what led to the mass formation that enveloped and engulfed the human population during COVID.
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  And because of my background as an alternatively educated human being, as well as the pronounced moral foundations that were instilled in me growing up, my experience during COVID in having the ability to stand up and speak the truth and apply my education despite going up against my peers, it was much easier for me, easier for me than it was for my colleagues.
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  And I talk about this, and I I want to continue to talk about this because I don't think that parents understand the value and the extent of the impact of the education that your children receive is going to have on their future.
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  And I certainly didn't understand, which is why I originally started out with sending my children to a regular school, because I didn't realize that I was so different until I found myself in the throes of COVID, facing uh moral and ethical challenges that I was all I believe I was only able to effectively manage because of that alternative education.
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  And when I say effectively manage, I want to be clear, it was extremely hard for me to speak openly about the things that we knew to be true in the hospital.
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  And when I say that, what I mean is that at least roughly 30% of my colleagues knew that we were violating human ethics with COVID protocols.
• 37:33
  We uh were able to critically analyze what was happening, and we would have conversations about it at the nurses' station, in the break rooms, and when the rubber hit the road, we didn't have the uh foundational principles, we as in my colleagues to uh apply our education in real time, and uh that is what brings us to this conversation that I wanted to have with Joanna about Arch Hub because now that I understand the value of alternative educational platforms and how it gives us the tools to really what it is is have confidence and security in ourselves individually outside of the acceptance of our peers, and that's not something that you can get from a classroom structured system.
• 38:41
  That's something that you get from accessing all different styles of education, and that's what our family did.
• 38:50
  We were part of a program.
• 38:51
  I was attending classes all over the city, all over the county.
• 38:55
  I started taking uh college courses at 15, and it was those kinds of experiences that taught me that my value and self-worth is not based on the acceptance of my peers.
• 39:10
  And that was hard, and I I recognized that during COVID.
• 39:15
  I learned how to do that as a high schooler, so that I didn't have to try and learn how to do it as an adult in a profession when I'd already had 20 plus years of patterning that taught me that my value and self-worth was based on my peers, which is what my peers were going through.
• 39:38
  So when I look at the outcomes, I understand that these people weren't just responding to the lies and the truth.
• 39:48
  They were responding to patterns of educational failures that have to do with a system that's set up to reward our systems with dopamine, right?
• 40:02
  Kids, adults in a classroom, when they get cheered on by their classmates and they get congratulated, right?
• 40:10
  Those are dopamine hits that are hitting our system, rewarding us for the acceptance of our peers, teaching us that that is what gives us value, okay.
• 40:22
  And when you go through an alternative educational background, like receiving education through Arch Hub or through homeschooling programs, and you don't get those dopamine hits because you don't have peers accepting you or rejecting you because of what you say or do or how smart or funny you are, right?
• 40:44
  You learn to develop that strength of character within yourself.
• 40:49
  And as a young adult, I didn't really understand the value in that.
• 40:53
  Now I do.
• 40:54
  And that is really what draws me to having this conversation with you, Joanna, and just having so much respect and excitement for the products that you're offering, because we're giving humanity tools to really learn how to understand how to build education that supports our individual interests, our individual passions, and our own purpose to deliver value to the world that we live in.
• 41:41
  Um extensively, and I think that's how it is with a lot of people who are doing extraordinary things.
• 41:48
  They don't necessarily understand the impact of their work, but I understand the impact of your work because of my experiences.
• 41:56
  And um I'm just so grateful for it.
• 41:59
  And so, in this next um portion of the conversation, now that my audience understands why this is so important to me, um, I wanted to talk a little bit more about uh the class marketplace, like for these families who are you know trying to enter into a new expertise or trying to educate their children.
• 42:00
  And so in this next um portion of the conversation, now that my audience understands why this is so important to me.
• 42:10
  Um, I wanted to talk a little bit more about uh the class marketplace, like for these families who are you know trying to enter into a new expertise or trying to educate their children um in through a platform that supports uh individual uh value self-worth and growth.
• 42:38
  Um there are these classrooms that we can create through our cub.
• 42:44
  Um tell me a little bit more about the marketplace that you provide for these classrooms for these courses, for the teachers, for the students, and for the materials.
• 42:58
  Because I really like that idea, like this is a marketplace.
• 43:01
  Like it's like I'm like imagining when when I think about this this marketplace idea.
• 43:07
  Powerful, yeah.
• 43:08
  This whole concept of of um peer group versus self um kind of awareness or not even aware, act self-actualization, I'll call it, because I also think about learning um if you if most people will look back on their life and they'll still have a handful of moments where they connected the with something inside themselves and something else in the outside world where there was this connection and curiosity, and I think that curiosity plus patience plus learning is equals talent.
• 43:50
  Like I don't, I don't I think talent it's built on those three things.
• 43:55
  And I and I think having if if your talent happens to be something that is con contrary to what you're taught in that environment or being part of that collective, it goes against it, and you're not trained or you've you're not supported in being able to continue on, like you're saying, like when you got into the hospital and you were faced with making decisions that were not that might have gone against the grain or even challenge the system, you had you had a self-actualization that you could draw from being homeschooled that allowed you to you know to keep going and and a lot of people don't have that.
• 44:46
  And so you want your kids to have that experience and have it be their primary experience.
• 44:54
  I mean, the collective is good, it's good to know how to have relationships, it's good to know how to interact with people, have social skills, but it can't be the thing that drives your development of self, because then that gets really messed up.
• 45:08
  So all of that said, um what we wanted to try to do when we set out to build this platform was to break down those walls, like you're saying, and your community on Arcub becomes the people who are working in the same mindset as you, who have who have the same goals and curiosities as you do in terms of trying to move forward and learn that next level of that next thing.
• 45:39
  Um, and what that I the way I think about what we're trying to do is create a combination of the structured tried and true things like math.
• 45:49
  I mean, math is what it is, and maybe that's like it's one of the places we could talk a little bit about AI too, because AI is a as another colleague said it's a tireless intern.
• 46:02
  It it could also be a tireless tutor.
• 46:05
  And so if you're learning something and it's a repetitive task to learn it, which is there are those things, you you know, the assistance of AI can can be really helpful.
• 46:16
  Um so we wanted to combine the traditional education, you know, the com some of the foundational stuff with the the newer or innovative things that people are, you know.
• 46:30
  Um, I think that right now in this country, and and Rich and I have spent a lot of time sitting and talking with university presidents, and one of the it early iterations of our work was trying to get this product and this platform into institutions.
• 46:46
  And it was very interesting because a lot of the leaders in that space wanted to do it, but they didn't have the institutional backing to make it happen.
• 46:58
  And and the the interesting thing that I think is coming is that they are going to be leaning into the other types of education.
• 47:08
  So I'll give you an example, Remnant Nursing, who you know, and um they work with another organization called functional nurse um practitioners, right?
• 47:20
  So for the functional nursing academy, or I think it's just called functional nurse academy that we're also working on partnering with on at our cub is a whole program for nurses to understand nursing from a functional medicine perspective.
• 47:34
  It's very specific and it's very needed.
• 47:37
  And and then you have remnant nursing, which is sort of an outgrowth or like an iteration beyond.
• 47:44
  So you if you have this foundation, then you can join Remnant Nursing.
• 47:47
  And what does Remnant Nursing do?
• 47:49
  Well, an example that I always like is they will train nurses to treat people at home rather than in the hospital.
• 47:58
  Okay, so there's some fundamental things you probably need to learn as a nurse to treat someone at home that might be different than how you would administer an IV or you know, whatever other things you guys do at the hospital.
• 48:10
  So I love that as an example because I predict not too long from now, those community colleges, those those trade schools that teach nursing are gonna want to lean into those kind of educational programs because they don't have the space or the time to build themselves because that would require a very big ship turning, which turns very slowly, and they're not nimble enough to to kind of create that from within.
• 48:41
  So what a lot of colleges are doing is they're bolting on other education where they see fit.
• 48:48
  So as technology changes, as is as AI iterates and technology iterates, and those colleges are not going to be able to keep up.
• 48:59
  So we are kind of like the the pioneers of education, the people who come out of homeschooling, the people who are the innovators and the entrepreneurs, they're the ones who are going to be able to hopefully backfill that educational need and and then provide that back to the institutions.
• 49:00
  Are kind of like the the pioneers of education, the people who come out of homeschooling, the people who are the innovators and the entrepreneurs, they're the ones who are going to be able to hopefully backfill that educational need and and then provide that back to the institutions.
• 49:16
  That's kind of the prediction that we've been working under.
• 49:16
  That's kind of the prediction that we've been working under.
• 49:19
  And we're just a little bit like the gap is closing.
• 49:19
  And we're just a little bit like the gap is closing.
• 49:23
  So we were maybe a decade ahead when we started.
• 49:23
  So we were maybe a decade ahead when we started, and I think that we're getting closer to so now.
• 49:26
  And I think that we're getting closer to, so now we're just going right to the public.
• 49:31
  We're going right to the people.
• 49:33
  We're saying, what do you guys want?
• 49:34
  Would build us the education that you think people need in healthcare.
• 49:39
  It's a huge space right now.
• 49:40
  You know, I mean, alternative health care.
• 49:42
  I don't even like that word.
• 49:44
  But um, but things that people want to understand about uh how some of these models work in in healthcare that are outside of the traditional allopathic systems.
• 49:58
  Um I think that we will go back to the institutions eventually and have this conversation with them again, not too far from now.
• 50:11
  So um so that kind of is the part of the answer to your question.
• 50:18
  Yeah, the trajectory.
• 50:19
  Yeah, the trajectory.
• 50:20
  It's really exciting.
• 50:21
  And I love just the visualization of an educational marketplace.
• 50:29
  Like I want to put that into people's heads.
• 50:32
  Like if you think about you like grabbing your, you know, your basket, your like woven basket and going down to the farmer's market and like seeing like, oh, there's my bread maker, and there's my lettuce guy, and there's my milk person or whatever.
• 50:49
  Here's my you know, friend that makes the earrings.
• 50:52
  Like this, that's really kind of the the visualization of what you're bringing to education is that you're offering a platform where everyone can come in with their little perfect gifts packaged up in a program uh of educational delivery and have it on this platform for people to peruse.
• 51:20
  And uh I think especially for again homeschooling families, uh, that's what we want.
• 51:28
  We want a marketplace to be able to shop for the content that uh we want our kids to receive.
• 51:37
  And uh so it's it's really exciting to think of it in terms of a little um educational marketplace and uh and what value that adds.
• 51:49
  I love that you're at the cutting edge.
• 51:52
  Uh, and that's always the kinds of people I end up connecting with is like all these people with all these crazy ideas that don't quite fit into the mold.
• 52:02
  Yeah, but they're exciting, and the ones that work out are transformative.
• 52:08
  And so um it's uh really it's really fascinating.
• 52:14
  It's really incredible.
• 52:16
  Um, and then I wanted to um find out about uh maybe uh if you can show us the um the way that it works.
• 52:29
  I know you mentioned in the first half that people can post jobs and uh request um teachers or request content.
• 52:41
  Um and that's again like part of the marketplace platform.
• 52:45
  I don't know if I you can pull up um any part of the way that the system works and give us a quick little tour and show me how as a parent I could maybe find a way to access these incredible uh courses.
• 53:07
  Let me do that.
• 53:08
  Yeah, let me open my share my screen here.
• 53:12
  Okay.
• 53:13
  So I'm just gonna start at the homepage here and give you kind of a quick uh purview of this.
• 53:19
  And you're you're seeing now we we we've rebuilt our search engine quite extensively, as I was telling you on the break.
• 53:27
  And we have a few featured classes on here, and you can see they really kind of run the gamut of topics.
• 53:33
  So we have some books on some.
• 53:35
  I actually am teaching a couple classes on on publishing this month.
• 53:40
  Um we have a class on uh like we were talking about Carrie Made teaching a class on how to your body heals with light and energy.
• 53:49
  Um, and we have some courses on crypto if you want to understand how crypto works.
• 53:55
  Um, and so this is just our kind of like featured classes of the week right now.
• 54:01
  Um, we did a training on our club last night that's on here.
• 54:05
  So what you can do is besides education, as you were mentioning, we also have the ability for somebody.
• 54:11
  So when you come to the site, um you can actually, and if I just log out for a second here, I'll just show you when I come in here without being logged in, and I come to the site like so.
• 54:24
  I can um, you know, I can come in here and what I can do is I can search for education that has a particular like age group level, or does it have CE credits?
• 54:37
  Is it I want to maybe just look for upcoming events, I can do that.
• 54:41
  And then I can filter on things like I want to look um for homeschooling, I want to find things that are in um career development or civics and law.
• 54:54
  So all those things are kind of searchable on on the platform too.
• 54:58
  So um we're really uh we've just kind of launched the the services and um and the other thing that you can do is you can have products on the platform, but we're not uh how do I see this?
• 55:12
  We are always education first.
• 55:14
  So if there are products on the platform, those products are there to support the education, like books.
• 55:20
  Um, it can also be products that support a particular modality uh of healing.
• 55:26
  So those those things will be here too.
• 55:29
  Um, and if there are services that come along with your educational offering, if you're an attorney and you're teaching about the constitution or your rights as a citizen, but you also have services on helping people with issues related to that, you can feature those on the platform too.
• 55:46
  So um, so it's really like you know, beyond the homeschooling community, it's really here for adults who want to learn things that they're not gonna find on Coursera or Udemy, but maybe you've outgrown looking, you know, learning from a podcast or an interview.
• 56:00
  own looking you know learning from a podcast or an interview you really want to go deep you want to work with it with somebody directly so we can you know we kind of offer that too so with that in mind I want to thank you for being here and uh sharing this incredible opportunity with uh me helping us expand our knowing our learning and uh bringing innovation into the next generation so for everyone else thank you for being here and we'll see y'all next time it's time and this seems it's time and this seems why
• 56:04
  You really want to go deep, you want to work with it with somebody directly.
• 56:07
  So we can, you know, we kind of offer that too.
• 56:10
  So with that in mind, I want to thank you for being here and uh sharing this incredible opportunity with uh me, helping us expand our knowing, our learning, and uh bringing innovation into the next generation.
• 56:25
  So for everyone else, thank you for being here, and we'll see y'all next time.