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THROWBACK THURSDAY! Satanic Cults, Ed Gein, & Ritual Killings (Feat. JJ Vance) · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Throwback Thursday. So these are some of the oldies,
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  Speaker 1: but goodies, the classics, and they are some of the
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  Speaker 1: any less interesting. So as an evolving human being, I
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  Speaker 1: may say something in these episodes that I don't necessary
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  Speaker 1: fairly agree with today, but these episodes are the classics,
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  Speaker 2: Howdy folks, your host double jvack here coming at Live
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  Speaker 2: slash Live from my studio slash RV dining room located
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  Speaker 2: directly inside America. Once again, that's your host of Operation
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  Speaker 2: GCD JJ vanc here and more notably not the Vice President.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks again for joining me here tonight, folks of the interwebs,
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  Speaker 2: evening and uh we've had a few technical delays, so
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  Speaker 2: appreciate you all burning with us. UH got a not
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  Speaker 2: a lot of you folks at interwebs, got a real
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  Speaker 2: barn burner here on deck for you all to night.
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  Speaker 2: I got uh guest uh Julie the cosmic Peach back
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  Speaker 2: from maternity leaves, so to speak. Welcome back to Operations GCD.
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  Speaker 2: Man for the very first.
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  Speaker 1: Time, Yes, very first time.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa speaking of technical difficulty? Sorry about that, ma'am.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Not only is it my first time, I'm
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  Speaker 1: already getting kicked off.
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  Speaker 2: You're at it, yeah, you're at it here. You're out
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  Speaker 2: of control, you're not.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me though, Glad to be here.
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  Speaker 2: As known as Yes, I agree with Benjamin Selina's here
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  Speaker 2: as known. You're well known for your bee hole references,
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  Speaker 2: and there'll be plenty of those.
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  Speaker 1: I have no doubt there will be plenty of beehole
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  Speaker 1: discussion tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Also joined me here, fellow Scotsman here, B. C. Wallace
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  Speaker 2: and fellow Oregonians. Is that what the saying? Organs? Oregonians there,
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Operation GCD, sir, Thank you, thank you?
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  Speaker 2: What's new? Oh? I apologize my pardon me, sir? I apologize, man.
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  Speaker 2: I was making a smart ass remark about being back
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  Speaker 2: from attorney leave. What's new with the Cosmic Peach Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I got some shows already posted
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  Speaker 1: that people can go check out. I've been, you know,
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  Speaker 1: trying to get back into saddle after taking some time off.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's still up and get out on. That's take
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  Speaker 2: some time off.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's hard to podcast when you're chains busted
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  Speaker 1: wide open.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, I'm back here the whole reference of
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  Speaker 2: the evening Post. Yes, nice and last one second, and
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  Speaker 2: I thank you, mam, and I apologize bt Wall. It's
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  Speaker 2: Truth and the Shadow Podcast. There. I gotta get hey, I
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  Speaker 2: gotta get my ship together here, Bud, what's there?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 4: Nothing really new. I mean, I'm just doing some dives
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  Speaker 4: on the algorith of them, predictive programming things like that.
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  Speaker 4: So you can find my shadow shorts about the algorithm
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  Speaker 4: on my podcaster with the Shadow Podcast, where I else
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  Speaker 4: do interviews different people.
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  Speaker 2: You were describing a show I do frequently tune into
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  Speaker 2: your show, sir, And you were describing a show I
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  Speaker 2: apparently have missed. Perhaps it's a newer one than I
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  Speaker 2: am not here too familiar with. Can you remind me
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  Speaker 2: a game? We were talking offline about a show?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we were talking about I had to interviewed
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  Speaker 4: a guy named Jeffrey Smalden. He had spent quite a
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  Speaker 4: bit of time going to prisons and talking to serial killers,
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  Speaker 4: and we did one on John Wayne Gacy. So it
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  Speaker 4: was a pretty pretty interesting dive in a really interesting
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  Speaker 4: pan of character.
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  Speaker 2: That is very interesting and relative tonight's discussion, Julie and
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  Speaker 2: I were gonna do an that guy in discussion, then
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  Speaker 2: she went ahead and had a baby that day and
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  Speaker 2: canceled on me. How dare she? We're we doing a
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  Speaker 2: lot of that tonight, and I'm not gonna lie to
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  Speaker 2: you when I was, you know, in one of my
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  Speaker 2: takes on that gone. He seems like a kind of
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  Speaker 2: a gayzy character amongst his community as far as being well.
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  Speaker 2: I and he's always doing like magic shows and stuff
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  Speaker 2: for the kids, you know, kind of clown not a clown,
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  Speaker 2: but kind of clown like Jester, like if you will.
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  Speaker 2: And Uh, that's gonna be some of our topic here tonight.
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  Speaker 2: And last but not least, uh the other JJ. This
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  Speaker 2: dude's out there trying now. JJ. Mean, while I respect it, Sarah,
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  Speaker 2: I will have none of it. Back to Operation GCD there,
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  Speaker 2: Jacob J host of Rise to Liberties.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, sir, Yes, sir, thank you so much for having
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  Speaker 5: me back. And hey, like I said, with the JJ thing,
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  Speaker 5: I gotta try. Man, you're out there suck.
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  Speaker 2: I respect that, I respect, I respect the attempts. But
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  Speaker 2: how dare you, sir?
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  Speaker 5: That's all?
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  Speaker 2: What's with the Rise of Liberty podcast? Sir?
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  Speaker 5: Well, right now, I'm actually in the middle of a
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  Speaker 5: deep dive of the West Memphis three. You know, that's
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  Speaker 5: that's a big thing. I've got a couple of shows
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  Speaker 5: coming up with William Ramsey, uh with you know, the
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  Speaker 5: West Memphis three.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: This is a case that I kind of feel some
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  Speaker 5: personal attachment to because you know, the lie that these
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  Speaker 5: boys were just picked on because they listened to heavy
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  Speaker 5: metal and wore black T shirts and stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and there are people like that out there, you know,
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  Speaker 5: but they don't commit ritualistic murder.
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  Speaker 2: So I kind you mean to tell me that this
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  Speaker 2: was not part of the Satanic panic?
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  Speaker 5: Well, it definitely was the Satanic panic. That was definitely
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  Speaker 5: planned and uh.
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  Speaker 2: That panic, sre. I hope you realize this right right?
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  Speaker 5: Still going?
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  Speaker 1: I agree though, It's like, not everybody who shops that
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  Speaker 1: hot topic cuts little boys penises off. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, It's like this is not those two things
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  Speaker 1: don't always go together.
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  Speaker 5: Right right, So yeah, that's uh, that's what I'm going with.
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  Speaker 5: And also, of course, you know, I'm looking at doing
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  Speaker 5: a review of the most recent John Wayne Gacy, uh
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  Speaker 5: draw drama you series that came out on Peacock the
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  Speaker 5: Devil in Disguise, because of course not a single point
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  Speaker 5: in that did they mention Philip Pascy and I have
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  Speaker 5: a I have a more.
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  Speaker 1: The like the clown and the candy man stuff, right,
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  Speaker 1: Coral and all the fucking Head Network stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's weird, sir. We were just talking about
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  Speaker 2: John Gasey. So that's There'll be some good discussions we
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  Speaker 2: can get into tonight as well. And I'd like to
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  Speaker 2: hear your thoughts on West Memphis three. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: for a moment see what you're what you're pointing on
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  Speaker 2: is what I think is part of the larger operations
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  Speaker 2: of this panic. We're in this propaganda machine. It's not
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  Speaker 2: just the actual convincing of the panic gets the spin
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  Speaker 2: around matters such as high profile crimes. We see it
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  Speaker 2: there with the West Memphis three. Them boys did something
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying they were solely responsible on In fact,
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot more to it. In fact
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  Speaker 2: they did, however, get Damien Echols was interrogated and it's
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  Speaker 2: videotaped and unvailable on YouTube. He does know, in fact,
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  Speaker 2: detail of the crime that only the killers and police
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  Speaker 2: should know, right, do that with butch will as far
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  Speaker 2: as calling them innocent, right.
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  Speaker 5: Right, right exactly? And you know, I kind of have
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  Speaker 5: a hard time with somebody who is innocent and also
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  Speaker 5: happens to be best friends with Johnny Depp, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and somebody that also totalcidence recreates right right, total coincidence, Uh,
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  Speaker 5: somebody that also recreates Alistair Crowley pictures. You know that
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  Speaker 5: that person clearly does not have any knowledge of the occult.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely not, all right? And Damien eckles Aim his real name, dude,
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  Speaker 2: who is his daddy? And what does he do? We're
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  Speaker 2: not playing that game? Well, we're playing that game tonight,
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  Speaker 2: just not with him, but perhaps in the future. But
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  Speaker 2: I thank y'all, all three of you all for joining
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  Speaker 2: me here tonight to gil GCD and you folks of
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  Speaker 2: the interwebs here as well, joining us. I have one
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  Speaker 2: quick plug for myself speaking of Satan Satan shit uh
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow and I got a Saturday Night Satan double feature
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  Speaker 2: of Well Operation GCD Thursdays on Saturday at nine thirty
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  Speaker 2: p and Easter Saint Times the Anatomy of the Satanic
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  Speaker 2: Panic and again West Memphis three comes at a very
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  Speaker 2: interesting time in that panic. In fact, we are still
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  Speaker 2: panic folks, so you know, beware, but that is the
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  Speaker 2: life and crimes of Muppet Mikey. Can you know the
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  Speaker 2: man behind the sye op in his pal ted Gunderson.
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  Speaker 3: There's thousands of Americans out there, by the way. I've
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  Speaker 3: been shot with a laser beam twice.
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  Speaker 2: Careful folks, they got ted twice. Stay vigilant, so.
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  Speaker 1: They got him right in his bee hole too.
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  Speaker 2: It was awful, tragic bee hole shot, I understand. So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: where would you folks like to kick this conversation off tonight?
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  Speaker 2: Would be ed guyin. We'll do it chronologically speaking as
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  Speaker 2: far as Satan murder goes, that's before the term Satanism,
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  Speaker 2: but it has all the hallmarks of anything we would
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  Speaker 2: call ritual Satanic murder Post nineteen sixty six.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I could open us up with a
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  Speaker 1: couple of points here if if that's.
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  Speaker 2: Cool with you guys, of course, yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 1: So it's kind of like a pop culture thing within
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of years. The guy Ryan Murphy who
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  Speaker 1: did American Horror Story. Also before that, he did Glee,
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  Speaker 1: and you know with.
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  Speaker 2: Glee even yeah, right, I apologize, I'm not familiar with
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  Speaker 2: this Ryan Murphy character. Perse did you just tell me
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  Speaker 2: he did American Horror Story and then Glee?
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  Speaker 1: No, he did Glee first and then he did American
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  Speaker 1: Horror Story.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, So that Glee might be more of a
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  Speaker 2: scary show he did than I'm not sure. But what
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  Speaker 2: this is a weird dynamics weird.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, So listen, I got a whole fucking theory
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  Speaker 1: going on here about this guy. So he does Glee
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of the people involved with Glee end
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: up dying in mysterious ways. It's like final destination Glee.
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  Speaker 2: You found that, Yeah, it is like that. I'm familiar
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  Speaker 2: what you're talking about, right.
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  Speaker 1: And so then he goes on to make American Horror
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  Speaker 1: Story a lot of conspiracy candy within almost every season
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  Speaker 1: of American Horror Story. Thank you, Brint, I see your
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  Speaker 1: comment there. And then he goes on now to make
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  Speaker 1: serial killer shows on Netflix. So first it's Glee, then
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  Speaker 1: it's American Story. Now he's doing these series called Monster.
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  Speaker 1: The first one he did was about Jeffrey Dahmer, The
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  Speaker 1: second one he did was about the Menindaz brothers. Now
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  Speaker 1: the third one has come out and it's about ed
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  Speaker 1: Gian And I find it very interesting that he is
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  Speaker 1: choosing these specific killers to do these series on, because
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  Speaker 1: they're all mentioned in Program to Kill, even the Menindaz brothers.
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  Speaker 1: It's like their dad was raping on them. They went
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  Speaker 1: crazy and killed.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So it's like he chooses Jeffrey oddly enough,
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  Speaker 1: the Menindez brothers, and now at Gean, who he calls
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  Speaker 1: like the godfather of all serial killers.
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  Speaker 2: And so you know, if I may add some of that,
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  Speaker 2: some of to that, well, hold on a sec I'm
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  Speaker 2: men rewind there. First of all, excellent comment there's there
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  Speaker 2: about the satanic cold activity and around the Bridgewater Triangle
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  Speaker 2: if you will, Uh, not only is the sp we're
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  Speaker 2: speaking of cannibals tonight, kid deedling cannibals allegedly with that
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  Speaker 2: guy in right, amongst other things. Serial serial psychopathic serial killers.
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  Speaker 2: Believe it or not, I knew a kid, did it?
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  Speaker 2: I know I met him, a kid deedling, cannibalistic, psychopathic
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  Speaker 2: serial killer who was once imprisoned within the same area
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  Speaker 2: there in the Bridgewater Statemental Hospital. And then he was
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  Speaker 2: I think he was. But I have a theory that
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  Speaker 2: he's being used as a recruiter of sorts for a
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  Speaker 2: could activity with all these kids. He was in a
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  Speaker 2: lot of kids stuff and they just kept letting them out,
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  Speaker 2: you know, amongst other things. This is usually before I
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  Speaker 2: met him, came face to face with him right right
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  Speaker 2: there in Cascade count Jail, pure evil. He may or
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  Speaker 2: may not have served me human meat burger. Also the
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  Speaker 2: year prior at the hearty is that probably did happen.
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  Speaker 2: But today in that same Bridgewater Statemental Hospital allegedly and
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  Speaker 2: I do stress the term allegedly since my old stalker
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  Speaker 2: and want to be pr rep Buffalo Jared Revisa if
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  Speaker 2: you I'm familiar with them, miss him in the introduction
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  Speaker 2: here he goes, that's buffalo Jared in the in the
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  Speaker 2: concept of this whole buffalo bill from Silence of the
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  Speaker 2: Lambs and whatnot, or as I call him Buffalo Jared
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  Speaker 2: that actually originates with ed Gene Right, Yes, so.
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  Speaker 1: Ed Gian was the inspiration for Silence of the Lambs,
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  Speaker 1: Psycho and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre supposedly, right, so he
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  Speaker 1: How bad do you have to be to inspire not one,
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  Speaker 1: but three horror movies about you? You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: So, but is he a fall guy? He is?
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  Speaker 1: So that this is the thing and we can get
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  Speaker 1: right into it if you want. Uh?
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  Speaker 2: What do you if? I mean? Man, what do you
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  Speaker 2: gents know?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Are you familiar with the tales of ed Gean, this
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  Speaker 2: new Netflix documentary or this Ryan Murphy character? It seems
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  Speaker 2: like a dark son of a bitch. She knows what
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely familiar with Ryan Murphy and definitely
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  Speaker 5: familiar with ed Gean.
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  Speaker 2: You knew him? Did he serve your human meat burger? Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, very very much. Might not have been born yeah, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 5: he he actually died before I was even born.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe his son served human human met burgers. He
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  Speaker 2: did live though, in the eighties though. Check this out
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  Speaker 2: Human interviewed the guy, right and I Maser another character
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  Speaker 2: amongst all these kind of true crime serial killers. As
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  Speaker 2: you were saying, you know, telling these tales of like
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Murphy's doing the you know, specific tales dom or
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  Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. We got that character, damn it.
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  Speaker 2: I've done lost. Is okay, it'll get back to me
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  Speaker 2: here in a second. Go ahead, sir, I've done lost.
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  Speaker 2: I'm stucking him up at World. He's involved in all
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  Speaker 2: that new the new Netflix stuff that as well, around
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  Speaker 2: to Tom O'Neill and ship, Danny Castelliro's project. It'll come
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  Speaker 2: back to us the octopus, yeap. So it's interesting always
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  Speaker 2: who tells us these tales there right now? Is the
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  Speaker 2: guy who was, uh, do you know what I'm talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Julie who who interviewed ed Gaen in prison there and
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  Speaker 2: them tapes like you know, late seventies. Maybe it's the filmmaker.
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  Speaker 1: Psychology actually, but they got it. They they put something
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  Speaker 1: kind of like that in the Netflix show, but it
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  Speaker 1: was actually not true at all, which I'll.
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  Speaker 2: Get into later. But jumping the jumping the gun here.
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  Speaker 1: Then it's just yeah, they didn't put it in right
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  Speaker 1: in the show. They made conflated some ship.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah it right right, Yeah, that is that a
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  Speaker 2: subtle b whole reference.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding, right, Well, you know so they say
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  Speaker 1: edgie and uh, you know he was he collected body parts.
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  Speaker 1: He had like a nipple belt and like a human
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  Speaker 1: face mask, and he had human hand gloves.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: He ate out of skulls, like he ate his fucking
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  Speaker 1: cereal out of fucking skulls and ships. Right, he had bodysuits,
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  Speaker 1: he had like dehydrated vulvas in like a keepsake box.
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  Speaker 1: And you know he would just dress up in his
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  Speaker 1: mom's fucking underwear and put dried out volva on his
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  Speaker 1: penis and wear it around. And he was a sixth
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  Speaker 1: son of a bitch allegedly, right, but it doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: you can be a six son of a bitch and
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  Speaker 1: still not actually have murdered anybody.
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  Speaker 2: There. You give me a sex on a bench for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Until it right there with you, ma'am. And he could
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  Speaker 2: be part of a larger network and fall guy, which
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  Speaker 2: is often when I the pattern of behavior I see
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  Speaker 2: around all these high profile quote unquote satannic murders, homicides,
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  Speaker 2: ritual sacrifices, serial killers, is there's a larger network in
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  Speaker 2: folks arounding a quote unquote fall guy that seems to
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  Speaker 2: take the rap for everything.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he seems to be simple minded a lot like
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  Speaker 1: Henry Lee Lucas. And so I have seen with Henry
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  Speaker 1: Lee Lucas, like how they do this playbook of Sure,
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  Speaker 1: let Henry take the fall for all this shit. Doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean he did it though, And well, he might have
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  Speaker 1: killed his mom or whatever they say he killed like
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  Speaker 1: his mom and his girlfriend, but he didn't fucking kill
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  Speaker 1: thousands like they sat.
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  Speaker 2: Like, right, That's what I'm saying, Yeah, exactly. Well, again
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  Speaker 2: it goes back to the evidence. You can dance Henry
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  Speaker 2: Lucas around America and had him claimed six hundred some
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  Speaker 2: odd murders, or you could provide some evidence he's connected
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  Speaker 2: to any of it, right shom he was even in
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  Speaker 2: the town when it had courage. Somehow he's in proximity
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  Speaker 2: to such a situation.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, though, is like with ed Gee
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  Speaker 1: and sure he's a sick, depraved individual. Yes he was
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  Speaker 1: grave robbing, Yeah he had a weird crush on his mom.
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  Speaker 1: But did he murder anybody?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: You knows, he probably he probably fucked a lot of corpses.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he murdered anybody. Right, right.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, is like, Okay, yeah, he's into
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: some sick, fucking, weird, fucking necro shit, but I don't
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: know if that means he actually like they say he
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: killed his brother, even in my own Yeah, okay, you're
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: speaking not you know, the rest of the panel. But
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, his mom was involved in
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: this satanic cult, right, generational Satanism, and uh, you know
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: they say his brother, he killed his brother. His brother
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: could have died, you know, as a result of some
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: oldest bullshit, but uh, you know, there's no evidence of
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: him actually murdering anybody. I think he was like the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Finisher guy, a lot like being.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: That's interesting, Okay, I considered that he's WinCE in the Wolf.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: So so what's really interesting, Uh if you go back
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: and read through some of the newspapers at the time,
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: or you go back and read through you know, the
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Central State Hospital documents or anything like this. Anytime Ed
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: is actually asked about the murders, he says that he
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: can't remember any of them.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, allegedly he only killed two people and so, but
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: he was caught with all these body parts. So I mean,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: at the very least he was at least guilty of
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: gray browbing. At least in my opinion, he definitely was. However,
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: the murder thing, I agree with Julia. I mean, there's
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: there is no evidence directly, uh and this is long
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: before uh, you know, DNA evidence. Obviously, they just assume
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: you have a woman strung up like a deer gutted
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: in your garage and you're the one guilty of it.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: It does look bad, It does look really bad.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it makes you look like ship actually when
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you have somebody.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: You know, But who's to say someone didn't plant that
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: he say something but the dead lady's body. I'm not
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: saying her body wasn't there. I'm just saying to say
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: that Ed.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Was there. I guess.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: You don't have a fancy nickname for him, Wisconsin cheese.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, they called him like the ghoul of playing
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: field and stuff like this. You know, I'm notorious for
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: coming up with my own monikers, which give me a minute.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really enjoy your nicknames for these characters.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Could be the dehydrated volva killer, you know.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: But so the thing about him like an acronym in there, Maybe.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: He will I'll you know, give me a minute, it'll
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: come to me. It's like, you know, when I'm not
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: thinking of it, it'll happen, right, It's like magic.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: But you I think you hit on a good point
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: if we can start whoa calm down chronologically speaking regarding
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: his mother being involved in some sort of generational activities.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, yeah, he those bodies were actually
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: at the house, right that. I think that they were
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: actually there. But the thing is is he could be
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: like the weird finisher guy like Gacy or something. They
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: drop bodies off at his heath. They only got a
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: confession out of him after they like knocked his fucking
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: block off. The sheriff like beat him invesligator.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the lead investigator beat the hell out of him,
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: which was really interesting personally. I believe he's a he's
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: a victim of d I D. You know, he was
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: programmed basically under like MK ultra mind control programming, which
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: is why he can't remember doing it because he actually
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: wasn't the trigger man, although they weren't. Actually I believe
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: the one hardware store owner was shot. I believe, so yeah,
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: he wasn't the trigger man, is what I'm trying to say.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: And that's, in my opinion, why he can't remember the
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: murders and he's got these chunks of time missing, because
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: that's that's a very standard side effect of programming, is
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: not being able to remember these things.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: One hundred I completely agree with that. And it's like
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: he is simple minded JJ. It's like he's the Forrest
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Gump of fucking serial killers.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: And he is because look how look at the impression
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: he's left on our society at large, in our media. Everyone.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So you know what's weird is everyone loved him too,
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: like he was he was like all the rage in
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: the town. Like I actually haven't seen the newest Ed
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Gain thing on Netflix, but you know, they they kind
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: of portray him as like one where girls didn't like him,
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: and the townspeople kind of thought he was like this
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: recluse and an idiot. They might have, but I mean,
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: from all accounts, everyone said that they loved him. I
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: mean he even babysat for people in the town.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: You know, the same as John Wayne Gacy.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I get the Gaysey impression all day. He's known as
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: a jester. He would entertain the children with magic shows.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's very much the same kind of community
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: like character that Gaysey had or repub which makes.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: Him perfect for a fall guy.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, he And you know what else makes
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: him a perfect fall guy is like he's he lives
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: with his mom. You know, it's like he's a gentle
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: gumpy kind of like town folk.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: The super dumpy, simple guy. He's connected here right as
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: far as again and like he like what what was
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: known about serial killings or you know, just you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: a very aggressive homicide prior to I mean I know
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: there was some I'm just saying this really redefined Like
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: there was the axe men of New Orleans, there was
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: the texar Canus situations there in the late forties. I'm
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: just saying there's there was incidents of a massacres previous
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: to this, but this redefined massacres.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: This guy, well yeah, and you know his depravity, uh
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: kind of redefined depravity. You know, when they bust into
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: this guy's house, it's on a whole nother level. I mean,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: he chainsaws some bitches whole like from tit's to you know.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Crop you know, I saw someone someone died just like
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: that in Studios six six there Dale was watching.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are pictures of this stuff.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: You should.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: You should the crime you should pull those up.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: We don't.
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: We do it?
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Do it the crime, the real the real crime scene.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Because I'm telling you you guys like the the human
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: face masks and the hand gloves and the skull bowls
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: and all this stuff, right, it's it's it's unprecedented.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it was incredibly odd for the time, although
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: I mean there were there were many today, right, yeah, yeah,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: I mean maybe not for Portland, that's true. I mean,
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: there there were many serial killers before then. You know.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: The one that always comes to mind late eighteen hundreds
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: is bel Gunnis. You know, she was a woman, which
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: is odd enough for a serial killer of any time. Wow,
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: But she yeah, allegedly, but she would lure traveling men
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: into her, uh, into her farmhouse, you know, offer them
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: room and board, you know, a hot bill or whatever,
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: and she would do away with them HH Holmes style
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: and they were just never seen from again.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about a JH. Holmes was a fucking
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: psychopath too, right, I mean did don't all of these
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: like reek of occultism to you?
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Though?
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Like think about this Jack the Ripper, Right, there's a
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: lot of occult ship going on with Jack the Ripper.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: There's even stories that somehow, like Helena Blovotsky and like
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Alistair Crowley were somehow involved with Jack the Ripper. And
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: then you have like the Torso murderer, the whoever hacked
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: the fucking tits off the Black Dahlia. Uh, you know
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: this is all you know, this is all before ed
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Gean though, so I agree with Jacob. It's not like
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: serial killer was new, but he did some depraved ass
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: ship that made a name for himself.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, It's it's kind of like Columbine to school shootings.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: You know, there were school shootings before Columbine, but Columbine
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: was the thing that put it on the map for
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: everyone and.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Game because there was Mississippi Due, there was Jones. I
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: can refuse school shootings, but.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Like with Edgie and uh, you know, like let's just
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: take for example, Jack the Ripper. Okay, what do he do.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: He stabbed a couple of bitches, you know, molested them
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: Did.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Whatever he was.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I just you know, the depravity comes in where it's like, yeah,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Jack the Ripper, he was slicing in dice and some hoes,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: but he wasn't wearing their faces around Okay, this is
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: like some new ship.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: What's interesting though, the reason I think that is is
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: actually because of the aftermath, because at the time when
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: they were pulling all the stuff out of his house,
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: there was like a literal circus outside, like people were
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: scooping up dirt and selling it. Like there there was
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: a whole like economy built around the house, which is
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: why the house actually ended up mysteriously burning down because
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: the townfolk didn't want the house to be you know,
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: some murder tour or whatever. And I kind of agree
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: with him, like if it wouldn't have burned down, it
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: would have like it would have turned into a horror
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: a museum, right, yeah, a museum.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But here's the deal. Once the house is gone
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: in nineteen fifty eight, the law enforcement destroyed all the
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: other evidence as well, So therefore, you know, he's not
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: going to hes right.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Some of it actually is still in museums all over
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: the country. You can find pieces, although any of the
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: body parts and you know, the nipple belt or stuff
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: like that is long gone for sure.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm tracking, sir, I was I apologize me.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Let me readdress my statement and actually be a segue
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: in our next next portion of this conversation. So I
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: appreciate that the evidence they had, the physical evidence against guy,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: and which were basically consisted of like a receipt from
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: the hardware store right right? They said, poof that went
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: the way of Houdini in nineteen fifty eight, No more?
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: What was it? So what was the story on that?
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: So I guess we can do his backstory here? You
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: all tell me you want to do backstory? Do you
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: want to do evidence? Which one?
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: You go?
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Which one? Which one? First?
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: You can look at his mother real quick.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say which we should probably start
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: with his mom.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: You gave it up to you, ma'am. You're the guy
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: ina cologist, you're the expert on.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: You might as well start with his mom.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's a great one.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: See that one. See that one coming.
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: Got me?
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe that should be his moniker edgin.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: You know, I'll let bet go if he's got some
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: stuff on the mom, because I don't want.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: To I've never heard of this guy until JJ said
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: something pre show with me.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Well maybe Jacob can jump in. Uh. But yeah, he
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: had a weird crush on his mom. You know, he
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: would wear her fucking bras and stuff around. She was, uh,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: she was like the mom from Carrie, Okay, but like
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: the real life version of that person.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: It was a straight up Oedipus complex, like through and through.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's like, you know, he want
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: he loved her as uh, you know you would love
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: your mother, but it was it went beyond that, because
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: it was like she didn't want him to get married,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: she didn't want him to have sex, she didn't want
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: him to have children. It was kind of just like
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: stay with me forever kind of change.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: She literally was the the mother from Psycho. Yeah she was.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: She was incredibly domineering and you know, she was an
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: incredibly religious woman that came from an abusive home. Her
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: father was incredibly abusive. I actually don't know too much
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: about like her upbringing, but basically she parlayed that into
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: abuse on the family, you know, because hurt people hurt people.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: And Ed's father was not not so much abusive necessarily,
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: although there are accounts of him abusing mainly like emotional
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: and verbally, but he was a drinker. He was a
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: hardcore drinker, and his mom resented his dad because of that. Eventually,
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: Ed's dad left and then so she went full like
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: feminist man hating, right right right, And then she also
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: was was all about woman hating as well, every single
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: woman is a tool of the devil, and you know
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: all women are harlots and everything, and just basically created
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: a recluse that lived at home and there was no
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: other woman that was good for Ed other than his mother.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: And I have one question for y'all, one question on
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: this lady. She sounds a real treat. Oh wait, she
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: ain't a great, big fat person. Oh wait, well, I mean,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: what's she agrabig fapper? She sounds like Arabic rap.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: She was a skinny, little spinster lady. She looked like
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: a fucking brown recluse, if a brown recluse could be
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: a person like. She was just like so venomous, looking
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: like a crushed out camel cigarette, but like as a
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah that's.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: What I'm talking about, weather weathered face, look like an
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: old catch.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you get it, you get exactly real, right, yeah,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: But I mean think of it in this in this way,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: is like whatever they had going on caused him to
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: have this weird thing where he liked to choke his
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: chicken while wearing her undergarments and like, uh, that's gotta
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: be some sick ship, right, you know it's like your
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: mom's bra and panties, and like, I don't. That's why
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I say it has to be some kind of generational
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: satanism going on here, because obviously the mom was abused,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: right then she abuses her kids then she you know,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: ed Gian does his thing. I don't think he murdered anybody,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: but I do think he was into some weird sexual
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: degravity ship. I do think he was like a weird
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: fall guy, maybe a finisher guy, if you know.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: Bring up that tab I pulled up JJ. It's actually
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: a picture of her. Her name is Augusta Ging Augusta,
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: like just the name, right, this woman, this woman. This
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: was allegedly taken around nineteen forty, so this would have
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: been not too long before she died. And you can
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: just look in her eyes. I mean she's got those
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: psycho eyes.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Literally.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but which one am I supposed to be looking at?
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: She looks handsome, that's all I can say.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: A very handsome woman and great.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Broad faced, broad shoulder looking broad he sure she was
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: a great, big fat woman.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: With a linebacker. And this is a picture of what
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: it was like around his house. You know, they had
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: booth set up, you know there it was a literal
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: circus around his house. After the crimes hit the media.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: And so I think the media aspect of this is
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: also another reason why we're still talking about them today
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty five. You know, I was gonna say
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: that media sensation.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I'm glad you said that's a I appreciate
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: you using your brain. Hold sir, there for God's intended
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: purposes and not for what many many folks do in
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: this world is an oversized paperweight, because that is That's
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Not only does this change the game
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: as far as the massacre of the scene goes, it's
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: the media circus. It's we can see it if you
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: look at all the events proceeding in after. This is
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: the point in time where this media circus really the
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: inception point of this murder media circus goes.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and this was the first you know, serial killer
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: or like mass murderer or whatever that really was covered
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: like this. Of course Jack the Ripper was, but that
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: wasn't international news. Ed Gaan actually made international news.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Later with a lot of publicity too.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, they mentioned they mentioned Ed Kemper in this
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: new Netflix show as being inspired by Ed.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Then I'll go ahead, sir.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: Just they they mentioned everybody. They have a weird like
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: scene that's been kind of floating around the social media
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: that kind of shows Ed having like this delusion or
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: something where you know, all of these serial killers Charles
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: Manson and Ted Bundy and Ed Kemper and like all
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: of these guys come out to thank Ed because he's
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: like the Godfather, and it's supposed to be like a
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: delusion that Ed is in or like a dream or
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: something like that. And it's really really strange.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Because you know, when you have somebody who is capable
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: quote unquote capable of doing these kind of things, they
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: have to give them like some kind of weird psychological disorder.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: So they were like, oh, well, you know he was schizophrenic.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: It's like, dude, there are a lot of schizophrenic people
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: out there that don't cut dead people's nipples off in
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: stream and a belt.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Let's hope. There's been all sorts of on that, right,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So it is interesting how we
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: get the even as you're all point out the constant
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: references in comparisons to these other serial killers, you know,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: because as Juliet mentioned earlier, I think maybe perhaps before
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: the show that uh Ed Gainey is even referenced in
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Program to Kill and this whole matters of the Satanic
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: serial Killers come Home a Phoenix program and up at
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: mikey Akino and Gang, and we see them every almost
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: every time you see any of these characters, references almost
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: like they're referenced in like a Marvel Universe capacity to
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: like the fucking Avengers of fucking Suicide Squad or whatever
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: you want to call it, of super team of fucking killers, right,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: and even in films like American Psycho, which there's a
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: lot to be said about old Brett Easton Ellis, I think,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: but the uh and Ryan Murphy, I believe he incorporated
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: smiley face killer stuff. In American Horror Story, Brett Easton
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Ellison is my face killer film. So that's fucking creepy.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: But yeah, go ahead, sir, I was just gonna say
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: real quick. In the first season of American horse Story,
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: which is aptly dubbed murder House, I mean, he references
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: all sorts of things, the Black Dahlia Columbine, Like he
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: just goes on and on and mentions all sorts of yep,
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: sure does. That's one of the main characters in the
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: first season. He's a school shooter that doesn't remember that
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: he was a school shooter until later one.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: The first season of American Horror Story is chocked full
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: of conspiracy.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and a cult.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's another season called Cult and it's got
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: all this like Trump stuff and Hillary Clinton stuff and it's.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: Just it's wild. It's wild. Ryan Murphy, I had a.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Question for you, ma'am. Hillary Clinton successfully traded, she profited
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of dollars in trading cattle futures, well
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: in labor birth to Chelsea Clinton, were you successful in
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: doing anything about nature?
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: All I can remember is my tank getting busted wide open.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: So it's just not a preposterous that that Hillary Clinton
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: claims have been, like, you know, laying in her bed
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: giving labor, trading cattle features on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, unless she got some kind of epidural that
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: just like totally cut off all the field from the
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: waist down. I mean, I just don't if you're in
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: active labor. The last thing you're thinking of is is
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: literally anything other than when does this stop?
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Like what you ever sold? These very preposterous and narratives
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: of this nature. And again I look at all media
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: and the way we're in the media circuses, especially as
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: the other JJ was pointing out, watch out Stair, I
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: see what you're doing there, trying to out Jjmie here.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I'm won't having you, but you know, I take all
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: these things, you know, very circumspective about these narratives because
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: once again, the well, I'm sure we'll get into it
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: eventually here, but generally speaking, the evidence around this whole
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Ganin affair seems very very suspect. But when we keep
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: seeing the media and how they portray him and connect
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: them over and over again, even in our fictional medias.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: When this quote from American Psycho he's talking about it's
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: an ed Kemper quote, but he references as ed guin make.
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: Up for how fucking unattractive they are.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: Do you know what ed Geane said about women?
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: Ed Gan Maitre diacon olbarn No, serial killer Wisconsin in
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: the fifties and said, I said, when I see a
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: pretty girl walking down the street, I think two things.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: One part of me wants to take.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: Her out and talk to her, be real nice and
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: sweet and treat her right.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: And what the other part of them think what her
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: head would look like on a stick, which is an
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: actual quote you folks can see from Ed Kemper. Dude.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: That's the thing though, is like they say, like Ed Kimper,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: who's also mentioned in Program to Kill, I talked about
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: actually in an episode recently, But it's like they they
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: apparently drew inspiration from Ed Gian. Now here's my thing.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: He's technically not even a serial killer, right because he
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: only allegedly killed two people.
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: Right, you have to kill threetween both right in between
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: all of them. You have to have a cooling off period.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: So Dave McGowan and I'm sure people are sick to
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: death of me bringing this up, but in Program to Kill, yeah,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: he was right. And so he mentions how there have
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: been satanic cults ripping and running through Wisconsin in.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: This area and I forgot about that.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he talks about this, you know in
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Program to Kill, how this area of Wisconsin is silly
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: with cult activity. Uh you know, is it a wit?
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, look in that proximity. Right Milwaukee, you know,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: near Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Chicago, right, God name cities, Lacrosse, let's
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: reached from. That's a hotbed of smiley faced killer activity.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Same same with Ohio. Ohio. Yeah, Ohio has some
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: of the UH. Actually, last time I looked, has the
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: highest UH population of Satanists per capita out of any
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: state in the in the Union.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: So isn't that wild?
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: That's Wisconsin. But some say it's witches covens. I I
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: do agree both or high high volumes per capiti sir.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: So that's a great point. And you know, my my
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: assertion is because of the mounds. So the highest concentration
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: of medena mounds are in Ohio, and the highest concentration
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: of the effigy mounds, the animal effigy mounds are in Wisconsin.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: Fuck, it's gotta be just a coincidence.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: This is the world, These mounds in the entire world,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: and this isn't just America, this is in the world.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: And now the largest effigy mound in the world is
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: they call it, well, the dumb dumbs called serpent mound.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I assert it's sperm and egg mound. But it's a
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: bit of A. It's all sex ship, and we don't
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: see a lot of sex ship with A specifically right
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: in his crimes. But you know, outside of this auto
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: ginophilia business, did they name that that that sendrume after him?
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Auto gonophilia? They said that he has happened up like
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: a lady right now, that is yeah.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: They said that he had well he would for all.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Of these names after him. Is this what's happening right now?
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Am I just learning all this is named after ed Guin?
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: They said that he had that ship because he would
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: like wear their titties around and stuff like that.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: I mean he had a full woman suit though too.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: I mean it was right, yeah, I mean that it was.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: That was really weird because I mean he's dressing up
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: as a woman after his mom's gone and you know where.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: To be his mom?
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: His mom to that Jane Wayne Gacy had the same
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: kind of he would replace his mother in the and
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: be the wife of his father.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: It was really right, Nick, fucking ship is what I'm here.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: If you want to bring up was he wearing I'm
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: gonna need a name, folks, whose skin was he wearing
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: this lady's skin?
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: So the skin came from some of the grapes, some
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: some of the graves that he robbed.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: It was a hodgepodge of sor.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just one person. I thought, maybe it's like
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: one great big fat lady. Oh wait machine, a great
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: big fat person. Oh lotion on their skin though, and
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: he was ship yeah, yeah, gotta put the lotions on
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: the skin.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: But so like it was, it was a hodgepodge. He
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: would take and be like, I like this one's tits,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: I like this one's hands. I like this one's puss,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: and then he would sew them all together and make
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: like a human suit out of it.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Right creative at least, right?
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: So this this is actually this is.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: This is an excerpt from some of the initial medical
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: documents from doctor Sherbert. I believe it is how you
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: pronounce that, uh so. This is December twelfth, nineteen fifty seven.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: It says the patient was interviewed on this date underlined.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: It says he again denied any knowledge about the death
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: of miss or Missus Hogan and stated that he had
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: admitted this crime because this is what the investigators wished
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: him to.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Do, which really that's what I'm talking about, right.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: So it was impossible to obtain a chronological sea of
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: events with regard to the death of Missus Warden, that
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: the first person he allegedly killed, he specifically denied remembering
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: the evisceration of the body. He stated that he had
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: violated nine graves, and when questioned as to his reasons
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: for doing this, he stated that he thought it was
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: because he wanted a remembrance of his mother, and then
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: highlighted it says he denied any sexual relations with any
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: of these bodies and gave and gave as his reason
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: for this that they smelled too bad. He again admitted
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: that for a period of time after his mother's death,
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: he felt that he could arouse the dead by an
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: act of will power. He claimed to have tied or
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: tried to arouse his dead mother by an act of
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: willpower and was disappointed when he was unsuccessful. He also
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: admitted that he had attempted this this sort of thing
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: with and it just goes on right right right, which.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: As a former guys about that's the satanic cult ship
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: that I think his mother was a part of that.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Where was a part of Where did he learn this
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: ship from?
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: If it wasn't where he learned from give me a name. Right, Well,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: that's a great point. Now again there's a it seems
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: to be a larger situation going on here with his
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: background his mother.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Then, right, yes, So in the Netflix show there's a
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: character her name is Adeline. They kind of conflated who
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: this woman is in his life. They said, you know
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: that they were in a romantic relationship, that they were
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: engaged at some school.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Right, what was that for twenty like they were saying,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: like for decades, I went twenty.
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: Years Initially, Initially.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: What a media circus, right, Like, what a media circuits?
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: You send this time girl out? She because she did
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: a report in the Minneapolis paper, like a contemporary to
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: of the events. So that's a that's a distraction of anything,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: like does she even know this guy? Like do they
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: even know each other?
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: So it's it's interesting. And the very first interview she did,
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: she said, you know, years and years and years, right,
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: I can't remember the exact amount of years. But and
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: then ever since the very first interview she did, every
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: interview after that she said six months, that was it.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: So one interview she said years and years, right, And
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: then she's part of the.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Cult, dude, she is definitely part of the fucking cult.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I like your brain holds that, man, I like, we're
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: going with this.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Why would she tell the truth in the first interview?
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, thank you Ryan, Why you know,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: go from twenty years to six months. That's quite a
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: fucking link there in a discrepancy of I'm spent with
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: someone you know guessing and so Jacob you probably know this.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: But they did beat literally a confession out of him. Yes,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: and then the next day that lead investigator who was
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: knocking his block off trying to get this confession, he uh,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: randomly dies of a heart attack.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Right now, it's a mere coincidence.
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, right, exactly, because it's always.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: When guns in the back of the head, hanging from
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: a tree with a gun like apart two Like it
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: was one of those situations.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: Right, tie yourself to a tree and shoot yourself with
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: a shotgun. You know, total coincidence.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Is the Harry of suicide guys, right, yeah, he he
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: basically knocks you know Ed's block off trying to get
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: this confession out of him. Then he mysteriously dies of
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: a heart attack the next.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: Day, right, you know, he beat the hell out of him, right, Yeah.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: It's like, why is his girlfriend saying we spent twenty
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: years together? Just kidding, it was more like six months.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: In the show, it.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Actually depicts her kind of like guiding him towards necromancy
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: and like some weird necrophilia stuff. Whether or not that
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: part is true, we'll never know. But imagine how bad
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: a dead, fucking, rotted, fucking nasty aspuss has to smell
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: for this guy, the guy?
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: How about that bee hole? That couldn't have been any better?
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Look at this plainfield woman nearly wedded? Oh my god,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: is that what she?
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: I'm getting bombarded with the ads? Fuck you, Jeff Bezos.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think he has anything to do with it,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: but he might. Who knows for everything?
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: See, I got you.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: He was after a handsome woman like his mom.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Look at this, be honest about the situation. Is that
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: a lady? Dude? What am I looking at here?
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: See?
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: Here's a here's a little bit better of a photograph
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: if you want to pull that out.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this isn't the great images. It comes in a
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: little Uh. I don't know who scanned this, but I
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: think they did.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on here. It looks a
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: little fuzzy, doesn't it.
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: A little bit?
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: It looks looks like somebody you find it very much like, Uh,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm looking at.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Dude, is that a real person? Is this a real person?
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Hasn't met her?
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much of this is totally fictitious.
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, dude, right.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Well, because they spend this whole narrative. I mean, I'm
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: not trying to defend that guy. And here's a screepy
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: some a bit. He's obviously there some weird shit, But
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying he never had a chance to defend
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: himself fin on the appeals. He's in a looney bind.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: They burn all the evidence. I'm just saying, I often
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: concerned my matters with my life, and concerned way to say,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: let me rewind it. Holy smokes, you know, I feel
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: like I might still be lost in I feel like
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: I've been lost him up in the world all week.
• 51:58
  Speaker 9: Hold on, folks, So, so, how how are all of
• 52:09
  Speaker 9: those little wave ripples? How are those so perfectly matching
• 52:14
  Speaker 9: what's in the video?
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: All the all the spercial patterns look the same.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: This is like saying that my butthole is your butthole
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: because they're similar, right, it's not we don't have the
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: same butthole.
• 52:23
  Speaker 9: Because of that, you're.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Using butthole a lot of context.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: You're talking about buttholes making everyone feel weird. That's the
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: point he's in that term butthole is making folks off
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: feel all weirder. Julia I was saying, I have to
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: consider myself with matters of liberty, just like these two
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: gents to And I'm not unlike yourself, ma'am. As far
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: as getting to the facts, there is no get to
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: the facts are just like ed guyin did it we
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: found all the ship in his house, Lock him up,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: throw away the key, and burn it.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, how about this. I have this in my
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: notes that and I wanted to talk to you guys
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: about it. Wisconsin, right, satanic colts ripping and running through
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: this area. Let's let's look at some similarities between Jeffrey Dahmer.
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and okay, real quick, right before we do that.
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: This is something I think you all will find very interesting.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: JJ. If you want to do what I Oh, yeah,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: I see that you.
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: Ed Gan buried at three am. What are the fucking
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: odds of which is our man right exactly.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: He died at seventy seven as well.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Yep, maybe he's a Matchbox twenty fan from the nineties. Oh, whoa,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: I've been I've been doing the nineties and my son,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I've been torturing with dad jokes like that. I do apologize.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, go ahead, We're talking.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: About satanic colts here, right, buried at three am. He
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: was seventy seven years old, like Aleister Crowley seventy seven
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: shit right, he spent twenty seven years in the mental hospital. Yes,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: are these numbers not totally sticking out to you as
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: sus as fuck?
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Oh yeah, all of them, all of them, all
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: of them.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: If I may be honest, there really is no difference
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: between this man fans some folks, which is covens and
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: satanic colts. This is the same. These are terms used
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: by the Satanists, and this this former Satanist can can
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: correct me if I'm in correct here, But based upon
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: the statements of one muppet, mikey Akino and his dribble,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: it's just I've read so many of his books, it's
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: absolute dribble. This guy just sat in the room smelling
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: his own farts, probably using a typewriter because he's just
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: as crusty old some a bit writing these books. But
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: what I'm and in loving every met of those parts.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh that's a good one, you know. Just
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I'm just I trying to put I don't imagine how
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: he even wrote this. This is bullshit. But they're always
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: saying there's no difference between covens and whiches. And you know,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Lilith his wife was doing covens and he was doing
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: you know, Grado's and they're all the same ship. Right,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: So we see all this, We see all this shit
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: in Wisconsin where they want you know, there's probably something
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: well we're Stannic colet or, which is go fuck yourselves.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: So there's probably a lot of this activity going on
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: in Wisconsin, you know.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: What I mean, go fuck yourself? Yeah, no kidding, I
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: mean so where is the years though?
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Right, it's probably just so entrenched. I apologize, man, I
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: just got want to fish my point real quick where
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: I got lost it again. But like so, speaking of
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Dahmer R, I said, we see these in the fifties, right, Dahmers,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: and in the seventies and eighties. But I'm saying this
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: has been going on with all these colts in Wisconsin
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: for so many years around these fucking mounds. Uh, then
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: it's probably so entrenched in the hierarchy of authoritative structures there. Right.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Well, sure, I mean I think our nation was founded
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: by Satanic cults.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: I mean that's nation we're talking about, Canada.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, JJ, You know what
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Well, we were founded by an ancient alien cargo cult, yes, ma'am.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: They do, in fact haunt the moon's pale beams. I've
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: heard that in the song Somewhere.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: That's a good song.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: So as a former Satanist there, Jacob Jay, you know,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: is there a great delineation between witches, covens Satanic activity
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: or is this commonly mute as folks kind of just
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: bounced between the two, and they're often referred to as
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: the same.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, you kind of hit the nail on the
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: head there. They do kind of float in between each other.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: Of course, if you would talk to any of them,
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: they would say, hey, whoa, whoa, No, there there is
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: no connection. Uh, you know, we're just peaceful wickens. And
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: it's like, well we don't even know each other, right,
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: you know, ignore the fact that the person that you
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: know invented the modern wickan uh you know, was a
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: student of Aleister Crowley. Just steamroll over that.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: But they.
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: Frost right, right, And so yeah, I mean that the
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: New Age movement is very clearly you know, the limic
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: very clearly. So yeah, I mean they they do kind
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: of float in in and out of the circles. This
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: is you know, to tie it back to the West
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: Memphis three. This is why Damien Eccles kind of floats
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: and said that he was wicking instead of saying he
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: was a savant.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, sir, There you go. And his
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: girlfriend was a vampire, right, and we're all fucking we
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: all have in a fantasy world. Well you know, be
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: what you want to be whatever.
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: Right, right, So I mean it is kind of yeah, right,
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: Typically the werewolves are more intergrained with the Nazism.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: You ain't kidding, sir. And that was Michael's precise purpose
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: behind that, right, the werewolf units right stay behind Nazi
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Operation Gladio Fuckers.
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: Nicholas Nicholas Shrek you know runs Radio Werewolf, you know
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: the right, and uh, Xena Levey she's also involved in
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: all of that. Yes, yes, right right, which, by the way,
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: when the first time I saw that, Holy hell, was
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: that spooky?
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Like wow, I mean I often play a game he
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: was your daddy, what does he do? But he was
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: her mommy? And what does she do?
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: Because it's also I'm I'm pretty sure Taylor Swift is
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: a man.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: It was his mommy and what does she do?
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Then that that's not the first time I've heard that. Actually,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: that's that's pretty crazy. And I just wanted to say.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Somebody in the comments section said John Wilkes Booth was
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: a part of that cult with Ben Franklin and a
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Chino Uh. I just talked to a guest literally yesterday
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: about John Wilkes Booth and how he faked his fucking
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: death and like ran away somewhere and all that. I mean,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: it's it's crazy the connections.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Does that makes sense? But what Coldy referenced in here
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: are they? Is this a time traveling cult because he's
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: been lived far apart from one another time was.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't even know. I just saw that comment
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: and I talked to a guest yesterday.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: I was talking about I'm catching up man now I
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: see the comment.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right here a cult with been Franklin in a Keno.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Uncle Ted, I'm interested. I'm not sure the reference
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: is this?
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Is there a Burger element to all this is ever
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: telling me?
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Well comments in there.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Where I get is any further off topic regarding these matters.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: So it seems that perhaps ed Guin might have been
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: born into this situation. Was his mother's in her cult
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: text he was involved in the sort of drug sex
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: for rock and roll in this prethlemic kind of era
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: of Satanism. I don't know, because she was in the
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: republic air of release right pre nineteen sixty six.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: She she made herself look like she was such a
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: what do they call it, like a devout? Uh?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Everyone all women are Harlot's and all men are this that.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I mean no disrespect to present company, but I don't
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: necessarily agree with that viewpoint. There's a lot of yeah
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: she Uh, the guy's mom was on the something. She
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: may have been an viewpoint, but she was onto something.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: Almost like she saw into the future and saw you know,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: the average.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: No, but I did want to mention really quick before
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: I forget there. There's a chapter in Program to Kill.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: It's chapter sixteen. It's called the collectors.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: So these are these are the people who are mentioned, right,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Leonard Lake, John Wayne Gacy, Bob Rdella, Gary Heidnik, Jeffrey Dahmer,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: herb Boomeister, which is a really if anybody's ever looked
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: into that guy, it's fucking weird. And then uh, the
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: godfather being Ed Gian.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: There, I'm bringing it up right now, man, how about
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: the uh you you you mentioned. I don't disagree about Boomeister,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: He's very interesting. But how about ship You just said
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: his name? To say a name again, give me a name,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Dahmer. No, that wasn't it, Bob Bardello. That's a
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: very interesting case that ever laps with that bt K situation.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: We'll see they run in networks, right, and they are
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: all part of.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Each other.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Look at this ship right. Let's let's look at the
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: similarities between Dahmer and Gian, who are both based out
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: of Wisconsin. Taxidermy okay, collecting of body parts using the
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: body parts's household items, cannibalism, necrophilia, not admitting to all
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: the victims. Jeffrey Dahmer also he went down for like
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: I think thirteen but only ever admitted to eleven. They're
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: both out of Wisconsin. But the thing is, it's like,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: how many how many times are you going to run
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: across two guys who are perpetrating almost identical fucking shit
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: like this taxidermy using the body parts as weird household items.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer admitted to being into Satanism. They're both into necrophilia,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: and at some point both ed Gian and Jeffrey Dahmer
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: offered their neighbors human meat as York Sandwichers served.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: You, ma'am, you often come here with a lot of details,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: and I do guarantee, folks, this will be a born burner,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: I do. You're blowing up a brain, homemam. So these
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: matters you're describing as what I have to call the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: greatest common denominator, That's how I look at these kind
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: of situations. And yeah, yeah, and that's how that's why
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: I've been describing my my Satan Thursday shows of unpacking
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: these things chronologically speaking, you know, temporarily speaking, time wise.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: And I've been mapping the ship out and you see
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: these pockets Fall River, Massachusetts, Bridgewater Triangle. They can go
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: fuck themselves up in that region. I hope they got
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: locked up Buffalo. No one knows where Buffalo Jared is
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: right now, I'm just saying, yeah, I'm not. Maybe folks
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: are safe. Maybe I'm the only one who needs to
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: stay vigilant on those matters.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: Vigilant.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he has a he's a hypnotic trans apocalypse mind
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: controlled multi state assassin. Well, I wanted to be my
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: pr rep. Dude.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: How these people for some you know, God only knows
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: how they're able to do this. But these people travel,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: you know, they get.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: The zip, the zizzy and death calls. They're traveling, fucking
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Carnie some But about them, that death cult still on
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: the loose, that Silicon Valley based AI focused rationalists, trans
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: apocalypse vegan death cult, they're on the loose. They're processing too.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: By the way, rational stay vigilant for those folks, but
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: also stay vigilant for lasers.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: There's sounds of Americans out there. By the way, I've
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: been shot with a laser beating.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Twice, folks. Folks, they got ted twice. Stay vigilant, so
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: the go ahead, go ahead. It looks like you got some.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Other than the laser b hole. I mean, we talked
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: about this with Scott Peterson, right, how they framed the husband,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: but the white and then they killed the wife. Right. Uh,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: but they were probably both involved in the same cult. Right,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: That's what we were talking about before. So like it's
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: the same thing here. So ed Gian would go to
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: his neighbor's house and be like, I shot this deer
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: and I have too much meat, and I just thought
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: you could, you know, you might want some, And Jeffrey
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: don is like knocking on his neighbors at the apartment.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: It's like, I got this delicious pol pork sandwich for you.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Like it's like they have to offer it to other
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: people to like induct them into some kind of weird
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: ritualism where they're like consuming human flesh like the Book
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: of Eli.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: I think it right. I think what it is is
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: it's like some sort of like a almost like a
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: Bingo card square, you know, because they're they're in all
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: of these cults and so there it's kind of a
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: joke amongst these sick fucks where they're like, oh, yeah,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: well I got my neighbor to.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Eat you know.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in the case of Jeffrey Doner, yeah.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Right, it's the they invert everything. It's the inversion, it's
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: the degradation math yea aspects of everything, right, so, and
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: they can deceive folks in the process that that's the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: fucking trifective form right there.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Well think about this though, right So it's like Edgiean
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: is like this, this gumpy like everybody loves him and
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: he's like, you know, a sweetheart supposedly, but he's like
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: kind of simple minded, like where where is he actually
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: getting these ideas to do this stuff? And then like
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: several years later, Jeffrey Dahmer in the same state is
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: perpetrating almost identical type shit like where are they getting
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: these ideas of the shower?
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: And let's let's not forget Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: Gacy attended the same bar in Chicago many many a times.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Well, it's also weird too, right, Like the day Jeffrey
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Dahmer is supposedly saved and baptized is the day John
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Wayne Gacy gets executed. Like there's all these weird it's
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: it's it's part of the ritualism, in my opinion, how
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: they do things. And oh, by the way, it just
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: so happened to be some weird solstice when Jeffrey Dahmer
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: got baptized and John Wayne Gacy got executed on such
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: and such soulstice.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: Coincidence, yeah, right, total coincidence.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: But they I also think that John Wayne Gacy, and
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: this is my opinion obviously, and I could be totally wrong,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: but John Wayne Gacy could have also been kind of
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: like a finisher guy. He liked to do stuff with
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: the dead bodies. But I don't know if he necessarily
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: killed all those people that, all those boys that weren't.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: I don't think he did at all. And personally, I
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: think he was more involved in the uh, the snuff aspect,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: right than anything, because the Stag film was so much
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: a part of his story and so right, and so
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: I don't think that he was necessarily this grand serial
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: killer per se. I'm sure he killed people that that
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: I'm sure of, but I don't I don't. I don't
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: think that that was his thing. I think it was
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: the snuff thing. He got these boys in there, uh
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: and probably got them hooked up through Philip Pasky, as
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: my guest, because that's that's the tie to John David Norman,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: and that that's what John David Norman was all about, right,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: And he ran the Odyssey Foundation and all all of
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: these other organizations from jail. Mind you, he was able
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: to do it while in jail, and so yeah, they didn't.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Normal normal prisoners can do those things.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: That's fine, right, He the the one, the first Pedo
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Island guy.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Uh so so, so it was.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: It wasn't John John David Norman, but John David Norman
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: actually had ties to Francis Sheldon, who ran North Fox
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: Island in Michigan, and that that was like you know
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: that era's Epstein. He was the one that ran the
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: ran the snuff films out of Michigan. That was tied
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: to uh oh, it was another serial killer. Uh some
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: some county up in Michigan. There was a bunch of
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: child killings in the eighties.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: And that that was all county child killers.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, same thing.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: In California, sir, you already corrected. He's Michigan, right, So yeah,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: It's tied to all of these And it's just so
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: interesting that you have all of this, you know, child
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: sex trafficking because even though they're teenagers, their children they're babies, right,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: You have all this child sex trafficking and at the
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: same time these serial killers just pop up in the
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: same circles like, that's not coincidence.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to see. Jacob is a man
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: after my own heart, because I look into all of
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: this stuff and it blows my mind how it's it's
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: kept from the public and it's portrayed in serial killer
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: documentaries like it's one way, when really it's a huge
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: network that connects all these fuckers. And I think my
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: opinion that Ryan Murphy has either read Program to Kill
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: or he fucking knows about it because he's luting a
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: lot of pieces together. He's been putting pieces together since
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: American horror stories.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: There they just bragging shit, right are these bragging about
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: their friends? Because look who writes the book about all
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: these matters of psycho, who starts introducing these concepts of
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: guying into fiction for the first time, And he's friends Oh, lone,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: behold the fuck. I don't know if he's an ocultist,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: but he's friends with a bunch of occultists. I'll tell
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: you that much.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: That HP Lovecraft to right.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: Well, he's also he's also friends with Forrest j Ackerman.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: Forest Jackman was og member of the Agape Lodge with
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Jack Parsons and l Ron Hubbard. He was the OG
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: member of Scientology with his buddy Elron and Lombhold. He
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: was an OG member of the Church of Satan probably
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: in the process. Yeah, dude, he assure you.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: So he has some sort of ties to intelligence, then,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: I'm sure right somewhere, some somewhere along the line, maybe
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: even just for one time, for sure intelligence somewhere.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: Well, all those fellows are dude, right, you know, all
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: those sci fi writers. So for re, Ackerman was like
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: the godfather. He's the guy who coined the term science fiction.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: He's he's the editor and agent for all of these guys.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: He's also the guy who's in the first Superman comic
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: because Superman Ship is, in my opinion, thele mcfan fiction.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: And on that note, before you go, mister B. T. Wallace,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: do you have any plugs? I also have. I'm gonna
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: hold your hostage there, but do you have any plugs?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: Therefore you go, sir, Yeah, Truth of Shadow podcast. I'm
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: everywhere you can find me YouTube, even I just do audio,
• 1:11:30
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• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: my links.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Ben Uh, yes, sir, I'll put him in the show.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Nice for folks at the interwebs check out. I highly
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: recommend joy your podcast SERTs well well produced, well uh
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: well good, you know, produce some good thoughts on all
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: brain old there thought provoking thoughts.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: YouTube.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Good bet you don't go nowhere? So I got you
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: got you gotta give me one more minute here, sir,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: because uh here on Fridays, I like to play my
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: favorite game, Who was your daddy? And what does he do?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 7: What?
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: And what and what did he do?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Who the fuck was that?
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: That's that's the Lord and Savior Jared Lea.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: You look, Jared Letto. Who was the person at the end?
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Oh you saw that creepy sounding bitch. That's a drummer
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: from thirty seconds to mars. That's his brother.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I didn't know the old of the old.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: At the end is allegedly his father. I'm not buying it, man,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Oh you're not buying Well, looks nothing like the guy.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: Let me bring my picture for you in a non format.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Let me see it again. I gotta fix this is.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: Do you see? I mean? I could see his mother
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: in him, right, I can see a lot of letters
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: mother in him here. Now, don't get confused. Don't get confused.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: He's a Bryant by biological name surnames Lettos, is adopted stepfather.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: He dies of very mysterious death himself.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Though, who is this now, Constance Metrijon.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: That's his mother? Now I can see Jared. Yeah, it
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: looks a lot. Come on, that looks like Jared Leto
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: with a wig, right right, what is going on here?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: I don't see any of this.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: To be his dad?
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 6: Ye?
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, totally come on, this.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Has adopted dad. That's his adopted dad. They do recognize
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: that is indeed his adopted dad.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: But this is especially from Star Trek.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: Fact is that even a real guy? Right? They're like, oh,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: this is Carl.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: He's he's got a lot of Laurel Canyon connections.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: He's got a lot of Laurel Canyon connections, ma'am. He
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: also loves to play Marvel and d C characters, Joker.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: The fact that he did, he's got he's got a
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: couple more miss he did Fight Club for for example,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: there's another one. He's got five roles. Maybe not, it's
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: all DC Marvel, He's got five roles. He's like, he's
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: a very suspect character, right.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: Well, the fact that he's also like a highly successful
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: musician and actor, you know, is wild. Most people can't
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: do both, you know.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: And he's having hangouts somewhere in the Laurel Canyon Lookout.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: Mountain Lookout Mountain.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: No, he sold it a couple of years ago, but
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: he bought it when it was so. He bought it
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: from whoever was running it as a rehab center, and
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: then he turned it into a house. I actually watched
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: an interview with some woman who used to clean it,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: and she said that there were parts of the house
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: where they weren't allowed to go.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: Traded do film studio stuff too, is what I heard.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Fuck what in the same he used he suspects going
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: on here? Ma'am uh yeah?
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: And what's with the weird triangle on this kit?
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked me and I got that up
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: for here right now. Hold on, boom, that's the official
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: Jared Leto logo. You didn't know that? Come on now?
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: Is he going to change his name to the artist
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: formerly known as Logo?
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: Hey?
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: I if you want to talk about folks who wear
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: other folks skin as a human coat, I mean Jared
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: led is the top of my list.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: I would I would definitely just to put him up there.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna just tell you right now, I thought
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: it was sus that he was even in Girl Interrupted,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: because that movie is all about m K. It's got
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: Winona Ryder, it's got Angelina Jolie, it's got all this
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz symbolism in it, and who the fuck
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: pops up Jared Leto. Oh and it's got Britney Murphy too.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: I mean it's like, who would have thought the Second
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Coming already occurred? I mean, look at it.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they always have to tell us what they're doing.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: Huh, exactly, method exactly. He's like a Johnny Depp, though
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: he's like a pretty guy, you know. He they and
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: they put him out there. It's like, oh, look at
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Jared Leto. He's like this, uh yeah, super nice.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: Guys like dep was way back in the nineties.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: You're right, except he's an actual successful musician, spiritual jareday.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm not even judging. I'm not even judging.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: So I actually metage, like seriously, though, he seems like
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: a major figure in some sort of modern day Hollywood
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: of cultism, right, and again, yes, you know the way
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: I look at it is these these cult. Fuck these
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: cult muppets, these Hollywood cult muppets, they do like little
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: cult pockets across America. For example, his not necessarily his associate,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: but another fellow I assumed Thelamite who plays a lot
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: of you know, at least played the Flash in a
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: lot of DC films more than more than once played
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: the same character at least, right, And that is Ezra Miller.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: And that dude literally starting Hey, I saw about that guy.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: I saw some some commentary from some from Montian's. That's
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: not a real thing, a fellow. Uh you know Green Mountaineer,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: if you will. I'm not even I think I made
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: that up. But there was someone from Bennington, Vermont there
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: in Chat earlier, and uh, that's where Ezra Miller's cult
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: is down there by Bennington Vermont.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: He was also in uh uh, they did like some
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: kind of weird spin off of Harry Potter. It's called
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Gary or something, Fantastic Beasts. That's right. Yeah, was in
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: that too. So he's always popping up in like some
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: weird Occaultism type sh Uh.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: Why am I just blanking on his Jared Leto He
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: was actually a regular at as Alon or.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: Or whatever.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's yeah, Salon. Uh you know, uh, what the
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: hell is that highway the one on one or whatever,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: like all the way up at the top of California. Yeah,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: he was a regular up there for a.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: You ever get a chance to take it. I've only
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: ever made it from San Diego to the border of Oregon.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: They won't let me into that state. Maybe maybe, maybe
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: you all can take care of that. Formula beat and Julia, Yes,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: I always get de turned. I landed in Eureka, California,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: and there, I say, Eureka, I discovered the Great White
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: Great White Beer. No, that's not the name of it.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: I discovered some beer at a local brewery there that
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: changed my life for that weekend at least, and also
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: prevent you from getting Oregon. But is a beautiful drive
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: you foind a beer? No, it's the Lost Coast Brewing
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: Company in Eureka, California. It's the Great Great White. It's
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: like a Belgian ale. I'd have a drink in years,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: but I discovered at that time. I try to make
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: it to Oregon, yet instead.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: Go to the road brewery. It's some good stuff.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I appreciate it. It's a fantastic I highly
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: recommend it. You know, it's a it's a beautiful stretch
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: of stretch of America. Dare I say California has some
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: beautiful stretches of America. I love California and it's not
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: some people.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: It's a great state. Terrible politics.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: I was actually goenn to say a mini a serial
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: killer would agree with you, JJ. I mean there's been
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: bodies dumped up and down the coast.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: For speaking, the dumping things. The last few times have
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: been in California. All I have to do is step
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: over human turds everywhere on the sidewalk. That's why I
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: don't like California.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: San Francisco. I'm sorry.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles too, dude. In December of twenty seven, myself
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: and my dude, Kevin and his uh his son, little Kevin,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: Kevin the little human, that's what we call him. Uh
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: My dude. Kevin named all of his kids Kevin and
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: including his daughter and weird, dude, it's really weird. I
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: don't judge Kevin a little human. We were all driving
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: through Los Angeles. We're in there for a wedding in town,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: and there was a home we had to intervene a
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: home A naked naked homeless man was literally assaulting a
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: I don't they must have been in from Kansas. I
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: don't know. These folks look lost, a young couple with
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: two young children, and he's he's running down the street
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: on naked and home was this is we were. We
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: had initially stopped because he was shitting on the sidewalk
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: before the onslaught of assault on this young this young
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: family we had intervened upon. We just get away from
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: your hobo and he just you know, took off. He
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: was just their hoboes. You know, it doesn't take much
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: of the tur them usually. But anyhow, that's Los Angeles
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: for you. I saw a hobo ship on the street
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: in west West Hollywood then nearly assault a young family
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: that had been fun to watch, right.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Well, you know this isn't a California story, but this
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: one time I went with my family to Dallas to
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: go to the JFK assassination. Whatever the fu.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's the new California. That's the new Dallas in
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: Austin or the new California.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: There's like a little place over there where you can
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: go to some museum and it's got like all this
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: JFK stuff and you can like go see like the
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: road and the grassy and all.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: That assassination museum. Right, Yeah, so it's all on the
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: nose for a name, right, the sixth floor, it's literally
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: on the sixth floor. Yeah, sixth floor, right gets muppets.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't think this of Dallas. Uh, but you know,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: we were just walking my family and there was a
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: homeless guy and he was just like begging for spare
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: change or whatever the fuck he was begging for e
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: and uh, my sister in law like went to go
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: reaching her purse. She was actually gonna give this asshole
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: some like money or something, and he spit on her.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: And I was like, see that's yeah, you don't want
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: to they're they're not a savory bunch man. You don't
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: want to get in here. You want to say it
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: was about ten to twelve feet away from these type
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: of characters. It's generally favrible at least didn't you not
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: catch uh.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: You know, shitting, spitting whatever. She was gonna buy the
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: guy fucking you know, six inch subway sub and he
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: just spit right in her face.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: So that's what it was. Maybe maybe she offered a
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: water burger. Maybe there'd have been you know, just an outcome.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: I don't even like. I don't I don't go near
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: the type. But I treat them all like wild animals people.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be dehumanize them. I'm just saying, look,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: let's be honest about it. You're bound to get stabbed.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: I try to remove myself from any environment that I'm
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: bound to get stabbed, and that's very much an environment
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: or ship or spit on. I mean, there you go.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: I'm wanted you that either be quite honest with you.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: Don't need that in my life.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: I do want to say, though, because I think I'm
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: gonna have to go myself here in a minute. But
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: the whole uh sensationalism behind serial killers, I do have
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: to say it made It's made people fear everything, right,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: not just homeless people. It's made people lock their doors
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: at night.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: There was.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: It's it's you know, it's really scary.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: Too, because I made man. That's an excellent point you
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: just make, because you know, oftentimes we often describe things
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: as you know, you two are just as guilty as
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: this is myself and broader terms and saying like Operation
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: Gladio in our Conspiracy culture podcast hosting and you know,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: I've actually had folks ask me, like, you know, can
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: you get this Not they're not saying don't they don't
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: understand it, They're just like, can you get to some
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: of the finer details. Help folks understand these concepts more.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: But that is that's the concept right there. You nailed it.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: It's total.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's total fear and domination. Because there was
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: even a serial killer. He was called the Vampire of Sacramento.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: His name is Richard Chase. Well, you know, he was
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: a sick fuck and he would, you know, practice blood drinking.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: He was definitely mentioned in Program to Kill. You know,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: he would uh do all this ritualistic stuff, but the
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: smooth Yeah, it was disgusting. But the way that he
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: chose his victims is he would try all the doors,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: and whoever didn't lock their door that night, that was
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: the invitation to get murdered.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: So it's like, I mean, it just has instilled fear
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: into the hearts and the minds of the general public,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: and I think that's part of what this the serial
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: Killer program is meant to do.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: It was like that was the whole point.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: Quote to quote, our nation's finest law enforcement organization, the
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: Federal Bureau on Investigations, those fucking muppets. The former assistant director,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: Thomas Flints said, when he's making a budget for a
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: law enforcement and intelligence agency, which was literally his job
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: in two thousand and four, when he made this statement,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: it's on YouTube. I'll find it in a second if
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: you need to see it. I sent it. But he
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: said when making a budget, he said, uh, he's not
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: going to tell folks he solved crime and solve terrorism
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: and whatnot. He says, his his mantra or his uh,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: you know philosophy is keep for alive, keep it alive.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: That's the point. That's the point, even even with this,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: right like Edgie and snown As like the godfather of
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: the serial killers, but he's not actually a serial killer one, right,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: and we don't know that he even killed anybody.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: And it's like these networks are working in tandem to
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: a make you scared somebody's gonna come get your kids.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: Be maybe they're just gonna fucking cut your puss off
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: and wear it around the house and their.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: Mom's underwear maybe victimized. You know.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: Well, the Beatle is pointly on the table that's that's
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: the whole point behind mind can table was it sure was,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: it sure was. But yeah, that's that's the whole point
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: behind mind control is fear. That's that's the easiest way
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: for them to control the masses, which is why now
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: we see you know, the rising the school shooter and terrorism,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 5: uh specifically homegrown terrorism, which is being you know continually, yes, sir,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: and it's being carried over from you know, all of
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: the militia fear in the nineties. You know, anything to
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 5: keep us in that perpetual state of fight or flight
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 5: is the best way to control the masses because then
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: we're more suggestible. And also when when they do these things,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: like the way they report them is they show the
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: terrible things and because that that actually traumatizes us, so
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: we all get trauma bonded together, like this most recent
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 5: thing with Charlie Kirk, you aggressive bud. Yes, the the
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: algorithm was allowed to let that video go wild, so
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: everyone was traumatized, and that was done in a way
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 5: so we would turn around, we would be fearful, we'd
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: be traumatized, and then the masses would be more open
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: to you know, our saviors, the politicians that would come
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: in and fix it, or the FBI or whatever, because.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: They are you saying that they don't got to say
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: from the tyranney.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, the the Federal Basketball Investigators are
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 5: not going to do jack shit to save us sick.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: Well, and think about this too, right, Think about being
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: alive in the nineteen fifties and seeing the crime scene
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: photos that they pulled from Ed's house. Right, it's the
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: nineteen fifties. You go to sleep with your door unlocked,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: you have a milkshake down at the fucking Back to
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: the Future cafe. You know, this is how I think
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: of the nineteen fifties. Right. But it's like he had
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: human face masks, he had human body suits, he had
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: bowls in silverware made of skeletons. I mean this, I mean,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: how do you think did you my question?
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: Man? These I'll go I apologize, Go ahead, I was
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: cutting out there, Go ahead.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: Fish no, go ahead, go ahead. That I mean, that's
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: pretty much all I was going to say about that
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: is like the reaction of the public. It had to
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: be crazy.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: Oh again, it was a fucking circus. That's a great point. Again,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: I think this is we see the evolutions of these
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: matters the circus is starting there and how they evolve.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: But how many other people have human face masks? Right?
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: He ain't the only one, right? I mean we're told
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: about him, everyone focused on him. He's all him, And
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: now one asked the question, well, who the fuck up?
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: Who else got these face masks? We're else is doing
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: this shit? So you know, I don't want to go
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: to you for can you hold that thought for me? Sort?
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: I don't want to go too for off topic, and
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: I do want to. I want to. I want to
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: respond to Julie's tail about this uh fucking muppet museum
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: in Dallas. But uh, I'll go ahead there, please your
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: statement before going further, just.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: Real quick, before we move off of this. So this
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: this is something I recently I wrote. I think I
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 5: said it to you, Jju, A piece I wrote about
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: the mind control being used in the Charlie Kirk assassination stuff.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 5: And it's it's all about, uh, how the Charlie Kirk
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 5: assassination video was pushed to traumatize the public for trauma
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: based mind control, and so the white The widespread dissemination
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 5: of the graphic assassination video via social media algorithms fit
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  Speaker 5: into a deliberate strategy of trauma based mind control. Uh
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  Speaker 5: T B m C.
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  Speaker 9: I.
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  Speaker 2: Can we can we table that? Because I think Julie
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: is gonna have to pop smoke and then you're gonna
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: be resolving your matters here this evening we'll be closing
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  Speaker 2: down on that. Can we go over that here in
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: a moment, we'll uh Julius some closing thoughts and then
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: we'll go over that if you don't.
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  Speaker 5: Mind, Yes, sir, I appreciates hold.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: That, Julia, because before you do that, we had a
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: big dad there. Big got a full moon.
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  Speaker 10: People are gonna be amped. All right, let's say we
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 10: got on hot tips.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: All right, whoa, the new bathmats.
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  Speaker 10: Are one more thing. We've got a serial rapist and
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 10: Crown Heights. I've oh Jesus sorry, that's from my other
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 10: job and going that.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: Forget that, well, don't ignore it.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 10: If you live in Crown Heights, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Way to end it. That is the perfect way to
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: watch over that.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: Serial rapists and Crown Heights.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no shit, he's coming after time.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate your b whole comments. It's always good times
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  Speaker 2: here and your nicknames. Appreciate you coming back here. Join us,
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  Speaker 2: gil GCD here I do uh when I would you
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: believe or not I had someone myself upon this assassination
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: museum you described, it's up at museum in Dallas on
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: December fourteenth, twenty twelve. That that data sounds famiter, that
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: is the date of Sandy Hook business. I would already
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: plan on going there that afternoon after some meetings that morning,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: and barks to the Air Force base at the uh
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: the fake nuclear missile headquarters there, and it's a real headquarters,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: but the nuclear missiles are fake. Uh and uh. I'm
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: sitting there that morning watching that old event's unfold and
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: then I find myself in a different uh false flag
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: kind of operations there, if you will, that afternoon and
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: I'm staying on the corner and this fella says, hey,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: do you want a tour of Dally Plaza? And I'm like,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess who are you? Weird hobo guy
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: looking guy? And he says, because there's noing there's it's creepy.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: There's literally no one on the streets in that area
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: of town at like five o'clock in the evening because
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: the museum closes at six, and there's there's no one around,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: and there's suddenly this dude on the street next to me.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: I'm all right, dude, let's take it down a notch.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: You are you what do you want cause you look
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: like a hobo guy. I don't want to get spit on,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: like your like your friend there. Yeah, I mean you
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: watch out and uh. He he's like, oh, I'm a
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: security guard at the Muppet Museum. Like, oh, that's cool.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: He's like, I'm dropping off a Christmas gift to my
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: buddy who's going on vacation. There's coworking all right on.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: He's like I used to give tours of Deally Plaza.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: He's like, I was seven years old. I was standing
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: right here when when it occurred, I'm like, going, fux sake,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: let's do this, bud. So I'll wait for you to
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: go drop off the gift. He gave me a full
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: tier of the whole place, and it was a It
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: was an interesting experience. I learned a lot more about
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: it than I than I previously had known that day,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: and from a dude he was there.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I still say shots came from the front.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: So whatever they got to say about the you know,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: shots from the front is all I have to say
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: about that. Whether they can give you a tour of
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: the window and like.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlie Kirk back into the left.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: Right, but yeah, I got I got mom duty calling me.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: I do appreciate you guys having me. I really appreciate it.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: I hope I was able to, you know, make it
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: worth your while.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: I do think that real barn burner, real barn Yeah.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: I mean this stuff popping up in pop culture with
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: these new shows, I think it's definitely worth talking about
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: because it's not as it appears to be and.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: They keep trying to reshape the narrative, right, reframe me stories,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: sell us new tales, you know, and whatnot.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah, but Cosmic Peach podcast wherever you listen to podcasts,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: thank you so much guys for having me. And I'll
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: actually probably finish listening to this episode tomorrow or whenever
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: it's posted, so we'll see what you guys end up
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: talking about.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, man, we're going to talk about some of Charlie
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: Kirk stuff. It sounds like in Jacob's recent the other
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: JJ's recent blog post on the matter, and I do
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: you will also hear that clip from Thomas Fintes where
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: you can stick around for twenty nine seconds if you'd
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: like to hear it now.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 7: Sure, maybe if you're a submitting budget proposals for a
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 7: law enforcement agency for intelligence agency, you're not gonna submit
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 7: your proposal that we won the war on terror and
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 7: everything's great because the first thing's going to happen and
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 7: your budget's going to be cut in half. You know,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 7: it's my opposite of Jesse Jackson's keep hope alive. Let's
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 7: just keep fear alive, keep it alive.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: What a muppet, What a muppet?
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 5: They fly.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: I appreciate your time. Thanks for joining us to get it.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: From joining mediagil GCD and the other JJ, you're leaving
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: us with Dueling JJS. So that's what we got.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a real pleasure.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great to meet you and have fun. Guys, see
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: next time.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: All right, sir, Dueling JJ's it is. Let's go.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: So, I mean this this does kind of you know,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: of course, this blog post I wrote it about the
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk coverage, but I mean it really does apply
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: to almost everything, like the serial killer stuff we were
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: talking about tonight, the school shootings, like all of this.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 5: What it is is they're introducing mass trauma through graphic,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 5: unfiltered content like that's the whole point, right, And so
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: specifically regarding the Charlie Kirk assassination, UH, the videos raw depictions, blood, chaos,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: and Kirk's immediate collapse was optimized for platforms like TikTok,
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: where short looping clips amplify emotional impact.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: Do you have your I don't have your website, sir.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: I can't find it the bookmark. I've been lost them
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: up at world.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: No, you're totally good. You're totally good.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: I think our initial, our initial scheduling conflicts that began
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: this week was due to my being lost in them
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: up in the world. I sent you an invite. I
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: sent Austin way Picard and an invite, and I failed
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: to send your other associate Jose an invite. But that's,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: you know, that's how me and those fellows join us
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: in here in the future possible here for another one.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: I know, Austin, I I've already rescheduled for November seventh.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: You're welcome to join USERA and that even like I'd
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: like to talk mats.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 5: Oh nazis right, right, yeah, I would. I would love
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 5: to uh to be there I'll talk to Austin about
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 5: that and whatnot. So that would be great.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: He's he we we're good to go on that, Suriy.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: Put it on your books, come on down. But yeah,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: the I was hoping to get a little neckro man,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: Like I said, a little necromancy going on to night
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: us fight Mormons, you know, being operations g CD live
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: and you guys are already dead. So you know, I
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: figured that's a little bit of necromancy.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 5: Going on, right right, So so this is an excert.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: My microphonemost jumped off from the table. Yeah, sh wrangle it,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: watch it, watch out.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: So uh, anyone who's curious, this is my uh my
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 5: sub stack that anyone can find. It's called Beware the
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 5: mocking Bird. Uh you know, Operation mocking Bird. You gotta
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 5: beware that damn Mockingbird because it is am, it will.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: Exists, and it's probably even worse there than it was.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: You imagine, dude, That's what I'm saying. The way these
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: things uh metastasize if you will, in our society, and
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: you know, if it's a few reporters like Dan rather
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: back and see the left hand. He must have missed
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: that one, right yeah, back back in nineteen sixty three
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: is a few reporters, well, what is that now amongst
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: our social media times or TikTokers or YouTube's, you know,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: all these matters.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: Right exactly. And that's that's kind of the problem, because
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: all of this stuff is just way more amplified. So
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 5: here here in the blog post, here in the section
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: it's talking about the release of the video itself because
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 5: we all saw it, whether we wanted to or not.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: Like we all saw it, and we had no choice
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 5: in the matter, and that was intentional. So right here.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: Number two, inducing mass trauma through graphic, unfiltered content. The
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: videos rad description, blood chaos, and Kirk's immediate collapse was
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 5: optimized for platforms like TikTok, where short looping clips amplify
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 5: emotional impact. This aligns with trauma based mind control tactics.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: Sudden visceral trauma causes psychological disassociation where the mind checks
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 5: out to cope, leaving individuals more open to subconscious programming.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 5: Fiery narratives frame this as a ritual sacrifice. Broadcast for
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 5: imprinting flags, intel symbols, and preloaded family photos in coverage
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 5: subliminally reinforced narratives of division example, left versus right. Mental
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 5: health concerns surge post release with reports of anxiety and
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 5: decentralized or desensitization, but the SYOPS goal is deeper. Traumatized
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 5: publics become fragmented, less likely to unite against systemic issues
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 5: like donor influence or foreign meddling in Kirk's death by
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 5: making trauma viral, controller's test and normalized violence, eroding empathy
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 5: and priming for future ops. So I mean, granted, like
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: I said, I wrote this about the Kirk coverage, However
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 5: it applies to all of it because it's the exact
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 5: same tactics being used over and over.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I was about to say, yeah, I was
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: rooting around my brain hole with those ideas you were
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: just describing, and I'm like, yeah, dude, this is literally
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: the same framework we see time and time again.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 5: Right, And that's that's kind of why I wrote this too.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's the Kirk thing was because it's you know,
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 5: it's in the front of everyone's mind and everyone's talking
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 5: about it. But these are the same tactics to literally anything.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 5: So just real quick, the last little bit I thought
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 5: would be important here is, uh, the strategy weaponizes social
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 5: media as a weapon of mass psychological warfare, turning a
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 5: single event into a tool for collective conditioning. If true,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 5: it's a test of how far trauma can be scaled
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 5: digitally to enforce control without overt force. And this is
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 5: the things that we've all got to be on the
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 5: lookout for. So even if you don't watch mainstream media.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: Anymore, we're being on si opts here, bud yet for
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: sis And like.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: There's sounds of Americans out there by the way. I've
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: been shot with a laser beam twice.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, JJ, they got to twice. Watch out. So he
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: was a king of syh ops.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 5: He loves right, He sure did, He sure did. And
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 5: I mean got shot twice.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: You know, I've been trying to get down to brass
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: tacks of what how that may have occurred? I might
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: be onto something, but was continue sir.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 5: Well that that's kind of just it, you know, all
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 5: of this stuff. You know, I I do think serial
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 5: killers probably would have like occurred naturally. I think there's
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 5: like a lot of things that kind of lead to this.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: But well it was I may I may serve real quick,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: they may have occurred naturally, But how do they perpetrate naturally? Right?
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 5: Right, right? It was definitely. I So my personal opinion
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 5: kind of just building on the program to kill theory,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 5: I think I think they took something that was happening,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 5: that happening naturally, but in very low numbers.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: We see that today. That's a great point there, We
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: see that today with this transpocalypse exactly.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 5: So they're taking something that's kind of happening naturally through
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 5: society and then they amplify it by these tactics that
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 5: they learned through MK Ultra and other similar.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: And electronic controls and ship too. Because again, yes, all
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: this transpocalypse stuff has some out there's some element, don't
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm not a doctor, sir. I'm also not the
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: vice president. I won't begin to understand these matters, but
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: I will say that there's some some sort of electronic
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: warfare involved with it, right, Games is always, dis discord
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: is always. I just get down to what are the
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: greatest common denominators if you willing, and you know there's
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: always discorders. You know, there's some very specific elements. It
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: seems to scream some sort of electronic warfare being involved,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: whether it's through the flicker rates, or the patterns in
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: the video games. I don't know these things. I'm a doctor, sir.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 5: Right, well, and that's exactly what's happened. M MK ultra
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 5: has gone digital. You know, I know they don't even
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 5: have to pull you into a scary location to program
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 5: you anymore. They just have to do it through your phone,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 5: you know. They they target a specific type of person
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 5: and then that's it. And once they got their claws
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 5: and you boom.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: Well because some of them, Yeah, that's a great point,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: because some of them experiments we're talking about in this
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: MK ultra another broader program similar to it, they did.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: In fact, when I say they might have been them
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: folks that got ted with them lasers, but they did
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: intact determined that they can eat they got them, Sir,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: I think I may have. I don't know if I
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: mentioned this, I may have found the source before I
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: finished my point. Let me let me get to that.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 8: One simple request, and that is to have sharks with
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 8: freaking laser being attached to their heads.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 5: Notice how you got so multiple laser.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: Bams they got, they got they got them twice of
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: them sharks, I think. But yeah, I think what we're
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: looking at. I mean love. I love shitting on Ted.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: It's great. It's one of my favorite pastimes. Here operations
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: g c D the What was I saying, I've done lost?
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: I got so much enjoyment out of shipping on Ted.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: What was I saying?
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 5: You were talking about the m MK ulture of being
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 5: digitalized and how they can target us uh with without
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 5: pulling us into these locations.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: Program dude, Thank you, sir. I once again, while you
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: were describing that, I got lost once again in mupple
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: world because I was trying to find this boom lasers.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 5: Such a fucking muppet.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: So the studies and experiments of these spooky natures they did,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: they did, in fact looking at some of it. I
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: looked at some of it, and what I could discern
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: is they understood the flicker rates and all these other
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: matters of light and the flickering of the light and
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: the beaming of these messages, the ability to subvert the
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: conscious natures of the brain with some of this imagery
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: and the flickeration and whatnot, to subvert consciously, that you
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: can implant things subconsciously, and right this ship was these
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: were known knowns if you will, I mean, when we're
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: talking here at operation of GCD. Start talking about psychopaths,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: I like to get myself in the brain hoble psychopaths.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 8: As we know, there are known knowns, there are things
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 8: we know. We know, we also know there are known unknowns.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 8: That is to say, we know there's some things we
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 8: do not know, but they're also unknown unknowns. The ones
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 8: we don't know we don't.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: Love Donnie the Muppett. So the nons we know about
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: knowing is that they do know these things. And then
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: we can see how these things are being applied in
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: video games. It makes you wonder, here's an unknown unknown sir,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: what the fuck was Jeffrey Epstein doing funding video games?
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 5: Right? Right? Well, you know, once again the revelation of
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 5: the method. You know, as as I'm going down these
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 5: rabbit holes become more and more apparent, and all you
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 5: have to do is just look at the things that
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 5: they call, you know, these devices and everything. So tell
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 5: a vision. It's telling a vision. They're channels because you're
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 5: channeling something, and it's programming because you're being programmed, right
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 5: like these are not these are not named coincidentally. You
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 5: know my favorite quote from David McGowan, how many coincidences
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 5: does it take to make a conspiracy. And they're all coincidences,
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 5: you know, And it's I don't believe in coincidence anymore.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 5: There is no coincidence. In my opinion. A genuine coincidence
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  Speaker 5: would would be so mathematically astronomical that if they do happen,
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  Speaker 5: it would be so rare. I guarantee most people have
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  Speaker 5: never experienced a genuine coincidence, sir.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not a coincidence. There's however, they got ted. They
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: got ted, sir, they got at least at least so.
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  Speaker 2: And here we see the epicenter of electronic warfare, psychological
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: operations and fucking satanism with this, this fucking muppet with
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: Colonel John Alexander and Michael Lokina who his wife and
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: her and these two, these two muppets, this lady and
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: this lady Lilith and John Alexander's wife, they claim to
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: be sisters. I found no evidence of such. But this
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: is the Skinwalker ranch Aviary. Psychological alien warfare nonsense. Hey,
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: the aliens in Nevada like to eat strawberry ice cream.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you're aware of that. That's this
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  Speaker 2: guy was not. And these two pall these guys are
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: like brothers, right, like brother in laws if you will,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: or to their wives. So therefore we see the epicenter
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: of Satanism and Cargo Colt style with the temple said
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: if you will there and his full blown US Army
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  Speaker 2: alien business skinwalker ranch, et cetera.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it makes sense. They all know each other, sir,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 5: right right, They're all intermarried, They're all related, you know, yep, yep.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Intelligence Officers Whoop and Intelligence Officers Banquet
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  Speaker 2: October two thousand and nine. Is hearing he is wearing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: here's the deal, Bud. He does, in fact believe he
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: is the Duke of Argyle, the rightful Duke plan Campbell.
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  Speaker 2: He claims to be from. I haven't played a game
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  Speaker 2: yet with who was. We're not sure who his daddy
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: is and what right right, But according to him, he's
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: a he's a claim Campbell.
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  Speaker 5: I somehow doubt that. I somehow doubt it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, here's I had that a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: about that guy. I'm gonna need to see some level
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  Speaker 2: of evidence that he passed any sort of physical fitness exam, ever,
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  Speaker 2: let alone a US Army Special Forces exam. I assure
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  Speaker 2: you sir, I've not done the US Army Special Forces exam.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: I did, in fact past the US Army Ranger tests
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  Speaker 2: physical fitness situation, right, and it's not easy. So that
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  Speaker 2: muppet motherfucker, that Pucky baster Or didn't pass anything.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I can. I can confidently say that as well.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 5: I'm sure he did not.
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  Speaker 2: There's three things in this world. I'm certain, and I'm
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: certain there's no way shape or for him he passed
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: any physical fitness exam little the US Army Special Forces training.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: And I'm also quite certain that Ted Gunnerson is full
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: of shit. Now, he may or may not have been
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: shot by a lasers. That's inconclusion, right.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 3: There's thousands of Americans out there, by the way, I've
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 3: been shot with a laser beat twice.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: They got they they got him twice. FOLKUS. Now I
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: imagine scenario. They're in the intelligence officers banquet and world
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: there where Syra to the Midts, where Ted Gunderson is
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: accompanied by his domestic partner, one Diane Heggerty, co founder
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: of the Church of Satan. That's the thing. And at
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: that time, at the same time as that photograph of
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: these other muppets and they're just hanging out with John Alexander.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: Pardon me, sir, Oh, goodness, gracious, what's going on right now? Goodness,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: pardon me and John Alexander, Michael Akeino. And they are
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: all the banquet wearing kills together. Dude, probably jamming things
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: up each other's butts. I don't know.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 5: I mean that that is a common thing that they
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 5: usually talk about and has been levied against them. So
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 5: if they're shoving things up each other's butts, I would
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 5: not be surprised in the least.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Ted made his entire career on investigating things
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: and then try to tell the world, Oh, I'll help
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: with the Satanism stuff. He said, Satanist. We don't heard
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: about Satanism. Get the fuck out of your Ted.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 5: You know what's interesting about Ted too, because I mean,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 5: my my official opinion about Ted is that he was
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 5: a genuine, like a to B dis information agent. So
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 5: the things going right, right, and so a lot of
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 5: the things he said were true, but then there were
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 5: just enough things that were wrong or factually inaccurate that
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 5: led people astray, which is the whole point, right, A
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 5: disinformation agent does have to spew truth, but just with
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 5: a little bit of a little bit of a factual inaccuracy.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 5: And so there's a lot of things, you know, especially
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 5: about the Satanism stuff that is true. It's crazy, you
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 5: can go through and a lot of it's true. And
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 5: you know, I've over the years, I've used his stuff
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 5: for some of my research, you know, obviously with a
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 5: grain of salt, because well he's a disinformation agent, but
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 5: there is a lot of truth in what he says,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 5: and it's kind of just interesting. Like, for instance, the
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 5: the archaeolology report that the parents of McMartin got. He
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 5: wasn't involved at all, but somehow he got word and
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 5: just showed up that day. You know, it's just trying
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 5: to trying to put a lid back on that thing
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: real quick.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: The opposite involve he shut the whole man, go ahead,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: I'm cutting out over here.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 5: Good sir, Well you're you're totally right.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 5: He was just trying to shipcoat the whole thing and uh,
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 5: you know, by showing up is trying to discredit it actually, Uh.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 5: And it was incredibly interesting because I mean he actually failed.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 5: Other other than the fact that people don't know about it,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, you haven't traded.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: Any victims mother's home. Jackie mcgaully violated the ship. I
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: don't want he's trying to do to her, but Violet
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: shot ever financially, I've been ever taken by the communists.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: My apology, go go go oh away, get it together,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: gome gome oh go way go home, come pigs. Sorry,
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: I'm late. Who goes there?
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 5: Henry Himmler? What Clavin claimed you?
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: California? Clavin Cucamonga, California.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just passing through town and uh looking for
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 5: something to do this evening.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: There was nothing going on at the rotary club. I
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: heard about this.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 5: Welcome Henry, I'm the grand clegal.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: Oh California thing. Pig face scum Gunners is a pig
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: face gum. So, after Jackie mcgaully hires the fucking archaeological
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: team her and four other parents she from the McMartin victims,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: he takes other parents from the victims other because he's
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: infiltrated the scene, but through Jackie mcgully, so he meets
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: all these other parents who did not were not part
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: of the four parents that hired the team, but their
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: children had been victimized. He takes those parents to the
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: scene the day before the archaeological team shows up to
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: start their dig and they takes them with shovels in
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: the La Times. Right, that's Ted Gunderson.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 5: Man, it's so obvious. At least in my opinion, it.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: Is well in hindsight, right, I mean, at least in hindsight,
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: we have the availability of time information and we're also
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: not being currently shot at by lasers. It's a different
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: time now.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 5: We have less lasers, right, less lasers, and there's not
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 5: one definitely not two, dude.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: Luckily, I don't know about you, sir, but I maintained
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: a couple of pairs of my Mormon underwear. It does
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: protect you against knife attacks, some nuclear weapons, and indeed lasers.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 5: So I did not know that multiple laser attacks.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean you can much like any kind of
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: other armors, only because it's gonna sustain so much damage
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have to aplace at some point you should
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: be good with two attacks of lasers.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 5: Well, hey, I I hate to cut it short, but
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 5: I do gotta.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: Are you my brain hold sir? I know your name
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: is JJ, but you my brain holl's about to say,
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: I appreciate your time, sir, let's bring in for landing.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: I know you gotta, I know you gotta go here.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: I appreciate your time to of course again for joining
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: gild gc D And you're gonna be back on Wednesday,
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: along with actually Cosic Peach as well.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, that's uh, you know, guys are getting your
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 5: fill of JJ and JJ.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: We got dueling JJ's again, dude coming up Wednesday and
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: the next Fridays. If I'm not mistaking, sir.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 5: Yes, sir, so, I will be back so and those
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: nights I'll be able to hang out as uh as
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 5: long as we need for those nights.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: And this was your suggestion for this film. And the
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: Cosmic Peach is also super stoked about it. And it's
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: the love affair of Michael Myers and his sister, yes.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 5: Which is incredibly weird. That's how the story starts, uh,
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 5: you know, Michael Myers murders his sister and uh you
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 5: know kind of loses his mind from there and then
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 5: you know, becomes the shadow, the Boogeyman, you know, every
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 5: terrible story. Right, So, yes, thank you all, thank you
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 5: all for having me back and being being so awesome
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 5: in the chat and everything. I always love checking everything out. Also,
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: I saw Bobo make a comment earlier that communists are
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 5: not people, and he is right there.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: Not people, don't I miss the comment, but the comment.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 5: They are government property, not people.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: They are indeed muppets, sir. There they're all, yes, saving
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: the Muppet world. Speaking of that, operation, GCD Sundays here
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  Speaker 2: at nine thirty pm Eastern Standard Times, six degrees of
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  Speaker 2: the processed Church closed. They told me to close in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy four, sir, weren't. First of all, we're near
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: forty five plus of a panic. I'm pare right. You
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: can hear more about that tomorrow night, nine thirty pm
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 2: Eastern Standard Times. With the adventures and tails of this
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: fucking muppet Mikey can.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 5: I'll make sure it's me in the chat for that one, Yes, sir.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: And uh and and uh. Of course his pal laser
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: tag ted.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 3: There's thousands of Americans out there. By the way, I've
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: been shot with a laser beating twice.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: Watch your six folks, stay vigilant. We'll catch you next time.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: Thank you again, sir for joining me gil Old GCD,
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: and thank you folks of the interwebs. Night to gi
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: Old PCD.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 5: Catch me anywhere. Rise to Liberty, Beware of the mocking Bird,
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, and I will have your links in the
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: show notes for folks of interwebs, check out and check
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: out more dueling JJ's coming up soon. Yes, any closing thoughts, statements, alibis,
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: or baking recipes.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 5: No baking recipes at this time. I've got to find
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 5: a good one. But just be on the lookout for
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 5: this stuff because we literally live in the disinformation age,
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 5: the post truth era. We are literally in fifth generation
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 5: warfare and they are trying to take all of us down.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 5: So just be on the lookout for all of these tactics.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: You know, people like.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 5: Yes sir, me and other JJ and plenty of other
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 5: great people are trying to expose these things to make
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 5: out harder for them to be able to do this.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 5: So make sure and soak up the good information why
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 5: you can, yes sir.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: Being a lookout for those tactics, and be on the
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: lookout for lasers. They got ted twice. Folks, stay Vgilant.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 5: Move yourself you always live your life stead thinking of
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 5: the future.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 6: Move yourself. You are to move, you make take your chances.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 6: When I do so, see your sound.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: You are stand you and you are lasting.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 6: By word, shaking yourself.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: Your every move.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 6: You makes speaking brook saying, don't know to chance. It's
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 6: what you.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 2: Stop.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 6: Doesn't lose yourself. No, not for Baga. SA's not really
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 6: isn't to give your free will chances