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Rayuan Lane III on Pick 6 interceptions, The Navy & His Green Thumbs · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It's Teal Talk in partnership with Gallagher. Reece Parkinson is here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jay Lawrence. No relation. I tell you what, big
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  Speaker 1: show today. Big show today. Jason Bell joining us and
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  Speaker 1: our second year safety, Raewon Lane. The third is on
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  Speaker 1: Teal Talk after quite a game against the Colts. Packed episode, Reece.
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  Speaker 1: Where do we start? Do you know what I think
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  Speaker 1: we should do? I think we should start with... Well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll look at it holistically, shall we? The Jags are 5-2,
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  Speaker 1: top of the AFC South. No one else close. Jags
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  Speaker 1: slaughtered Colts 42-7 and head into Thursday night football to
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  Speaker 1: face the Ravens, who don't have a quarterback. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a lot to talk about, Rhys. First of all, what
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  Speaker 1: did you make of the victory on Sunday?
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  Speaker 2: Well, as soon as we went 7-up, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to score any points. I
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  Speaker 2: tagged George who, if there's a Colts fan in the UK,
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  Speaker 2: the biggest Colts fan, I'd say George is up there.
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  Speaker 2: George on sports is his Instagram for context. And I
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  Speaker 2: just tagged him on my story. I was like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think you're going to score one point today, dude.
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  Speaker 2: And then we went on to completely destroy them. It's
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  Speaker 2: great because it's almost one of those games that it
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  Speaker 2: gets to like the third quarter and maybe this is
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  Speaker 2: bad of me to say, but I'm like, I'm kind
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  Speaker 2: of bored. Like, We're so good that I'm bored.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe you're saying that, by the way. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: let's be frank, Rhys. The Jacksonville Jaguars haven't always been
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  Speaker 1: like this. So as soon as they are like this,
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  Speaker 1: you're saying that you're bored.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like there's no... It's like a boxing match
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  Speaker 2: and the players just get punched. You're like, ref. Throw
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  Speaker 2: in the towel. Like, what's happening here? We just went
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  Speaker 2: at them and at them and at them. And to
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  Speaker 2: the point, they got to the third quarter. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: this is done. You can end it here. It's over.
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  Speaker 2: But what an incredible, incredible performance from the team. Bounce
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  Speaker 2: back win against the Texans. Come back to Jacksonville. Reset.
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  Speaker 2: Settle down. Go at it and really make your mark.
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  Speaker 2: We always have this, it feels like. That late October,
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  Speaker 2: early November for the Jags is like, what, for probably
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  Speaker 2: the last three seasons has always been this kind of turnaround.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it's Halloween. It does something for
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  Speaker 2: the team. It just like, we turn into, it's like
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  Speaker 2: we kind of get all that kind of maybe a
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  Speaker 2: few aches and pains out the way. And then it's like, right,
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  Speaker 2: we're here. This is who we are. This is our identity.
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  Speaker 2: And on we go. Well, the obvious.
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  Speaker 1: Example of that is last season, isn't it, Reece? And
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  Speaker 1: you know what the thing is? It's just after the bye.
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  Speaker 1: You have that week. Being in the UK, you have
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  Speaker 1: that bye, and you're able to not only reset, but
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  Speaker 1: also just let your, frankly, let your joints chill out
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  Speaker 1: a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, literally.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And to be able to have that moment
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  Speaker 1: to recharge. There's a couple of things about this game
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  Speaker 1: that I did want to discuss. First of all, you
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  Speaker 1: look back at the off-season when, Travis Achan left the
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  Speaker 1: Jags and a lot of talk outside of Jacksonville about
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  Speaker 1: the running game. Where was it going to be? Are
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  Speaker 1: the Jags going to have to bring somebody in? They
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  Speaker 1: brought Chris Rodriguez in, but Bashar Tootin has made that
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  Speaker 1: position his own and he has established himself as one
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  Speaker 1: of the premier runners in the NFL at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: And he was superb in this game. Superb. You just
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  Speaker 1: needed to look at how they were running the ball
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  Speaker 1: and also how they were using Travis Hunter as not
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  Speaker 1: only a, a potential option in the passing game, but
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  Speaker 1: a dummy in the passing game as well. And that
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  Speaker 1: actually led to the Bayshall to and touchdown as well.
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  Speaker 1: That dummy from, from, uh, having Travis Hunter there. It's
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  Speaker 1: just so impressive. It's just so exciting. It's so nice
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  Speaker 1: to have Brian Thomas jr. Catch a touchdown as well. Um,
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  Speaker 1: There's just a lot to like about the Jacksonville Jaguars' offense.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to know my favorite stat?
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  Speaker 2: Give me your favorite stat.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I know you love a stat.
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  Speaker 1: I love a good stat. And this is actually very
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  Speaker 1: similar to a stat that I think I've probably read
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  Speaker 1: to you before or spoken to you about before, Rhys, okay?
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  Speaker 1: And this is just indicative of what you're saying about
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  Speaker 1: being bored and also about what I'm saying about how
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  Speaker 1: the offense, Trevor Lawrence, everybody around him is just performing
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  Speaker 1: very well, okay? Trevor Lawrence has been pulled early in
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  Speaker 1: eight of the last 15 Jags games. Now, bear in mind,
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  Speaker 1: that's not because of injury. That's not because he's not
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  Speaker 1: playing well enough. It's because the Jags are just up
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  Speaker 1: so much. So here's the breakdown. I'm going to read
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  Speaker 1: all of these times to you because it is very interesting,
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, of how much time was left on
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  Speaker 1: the board in all of these games, right? So the
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  Speaker 1: first one, eight minutes left, then six minutes, seven minutes left,
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  Speaker 1: 13 and a half minutes. Then another 13 minutes. Two
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  Speaker 1: minutes 30 in the third quarter. Eight minutes left. And
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  Speaker 1: then in this game against the Colts, he didn't even
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  Speaker 1: take one snap in the fourth quarter. It is just
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  Speaker 1: so amazing to have this Liam Cohen offense.
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  Speaker 2: It's what great teams do. It's what teams that are
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  Speaker 2: gunning for a Super Bowl, which is, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to say that's crazy for us to say, but it's
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  Speaker 2: just like, You know, how fun is it to be
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  Speaker 2: able to say that? It's what teams like us that
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  Speaker 2: are gunning for the Super Bowl do. You destroy opponents.
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  Speaker 2: To give your QB a rest.
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  Speaker 1: It's important to be able to stamp your authority as
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  Speaker 1: well and be able to win these extremely winnable games
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  Speaker 1: because the Indianapolis Colts aren't the Buffalo Bills. Let's be frank.
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  Speaker 1: They're in the middle of the toughest situation that they've
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  Speaker 1: been in in a while. They're a tire fire in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of a fire sale.
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  Speaker 2: But it's still, it's very true, but it's still one
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  Speaker 2: of those things where, you know, a bit of a bogey,
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  Speaker 2: not a bogey team, specifically the Colts.
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  Speaker 1: Divisional.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that. And also just like, there's players on that
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  Speaker 2: team that are looking at their contract.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Even if they're going to start playing selfishly, it's still
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  Speaker 2: one of those, it's like someone who you don't expect
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  Speaker 2: goes off and you're like, ah, like, yeah, I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to get my trade value up because I know there's
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  Speaker 2: a fire sale coming up. So the fact that we
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  Speaker 2: did that and crushed them just says a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I think.
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  Speaker 2: It just speaks volumes as well that like watching the
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  Speaker 2: game and I'm like, it wasn't surprising.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's interesting because that's not the first time
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  Speaker 1: that's happened. I know it feels like we're patting ourselves
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  Speaker 1: on the back a little bit too much here. As
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  Speaker 1: we should. At the same time, it has been more
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  Speaker 1: than one game And I don't know if you felt
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  Speaker 1: the same where I've gone into it thinking Jags should
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  Speaker 1: win this, Jags should win this comfortably. And then they
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  Speaker 1: win it comfortably.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The only strange one is like, I'm not saying I
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  Speaker 2: thought the Jags should have beat the Eagles or the Texans.
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  Speaker 2: I know we beat the Eagles, but it wasn't comfortably.
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  Speaker 2: Like they're the kind of ones that it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to get too cocky and ahead of
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  Speaker 2: ourselves because look at the last two games before that.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like we did lose to the Texans.
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  Speaker 2: You know, so it's like, it's these kind of little
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  Speaker 2: aches and pains that we're just ironing out now. And
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  Speaker 2: we tend to do that in October, early November. And
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  Speaker 2: hopefully this is really setting us up to kind of
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  Speaker 2: go on one of those very Jags-esque runs where it's like,
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  Speaker 2: do you remember in the 2026-27 season that they went
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  Speaker 2: on that kind of eight game winning streak? It's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I can, you know, I can see that happening with
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  Speaker 2: us where we build this streak now, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's Ravens next. We'll talk about that a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: And I know that you're going to have a conversation
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  Speaker 1: with Jason Bell that we'll hear from him shortly. We'll
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  Speaker 1: discuss the Ravens there as well.
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  Speaker 2: You need to tell me about Paris. Yeah, I went
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  Speaker 2: to Paris. You're everywhere. You said that I'm everywhere. You're
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  Speaker 2: recording this in Spain right now. And then you were
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  Speaker 2: in Paris for the NFL game. Forgive me for forgetting
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  Speaker 2: who was playing. Steelers. Was it Steelers? Steelers-Steins. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The table actually was really good about that. Besides the
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  Speaker 1: fact that I really like Paris and it was my
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  Speaker 1: first time going to the Stade de France. So that
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  Speaker 1: was great. But what was really good.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I saw you. Yeah, of course you did.
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  Speaker 2: Was you in the Louis Vuitton store at some point?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Running out with a couple of bars. I knew it.
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  Speaker 4: You got me.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I'd know that guy.
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  Speaker 4: You got me.
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  Speaker 1: But on the way up to the stadium, obviously there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people wearing Steelers gear. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people wearing Saints gear, but there were people wearing
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  Speaker 1: obviously different, different jerseys. And I saw this, um, like
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  Speaker 1: Jags gear. And I can't remember if it was like a,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was some sort of hoodie. And I
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  Speaker 1: remember thinking, I've not seen that before.
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  Speaker 3: That's nice.
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  Speaker 1: So I went a bit nearer because I was like
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  Speaker 1: going to take a photo of it basically, um, to
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  Speaker 1: see if I could find it to get it. And
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  Speaker 1: I got a bit closer. I was like, I know
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  Speaker 1: that guy. He's at the watch-alongs. He listens to Teal Talk.
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  Speaker 2: No way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I see him everywhere. So if you're listening
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  Speaker 1: right now, it was nice to see you in a
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  Speaker 1: different country. But yeah, he was at the quiz that
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  Speaker 1: we did before the Jags game the other day. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was nice to be able to speak to Jags fans,
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  Speaker 1: not only in London, but across the sea in France
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 4: Amazing.
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  Speaker 2: How cool is that?
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  Speaker 1: Let's speak Ravens in a minute, Rhys. But I think
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  Speaker 1: we should really quickly mention somebody that is also going
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  Speaker 1: to be on the podcast and you're going to be
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  Speaker 1: speaking to in a moment. Raywan Lane III, who had
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  Speaker 1: an amazing game and not the first amazing game that
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  Speaker 1: he's had this season. Defense showing up again. Pick six, Rhys.
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  Speaker 2: Epic. That's your moment. You know, that's your moment. I
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  Speaker 2: can imagine it's one of those that before the game
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  Speaker 2: if it's anything when obviously not on this level but
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  Speaker 2: before when i used to play sports when i was
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  Speaker 2: younger you go the night before close my eyes and
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  Speaker 2: i imagine what's the dream scenario that could happen to
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  Speaker 2: me in this game you almost tried to manifest it
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  Speaker 2: happening it couldn't have gone better for Ray One. Like,
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  Speaker 2: it couldn't have. And what a moment for him. And
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  Speaker 2: the best thing about that, I feel like, which you
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  Speaker 2: feel with the team as well, you saw it in
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  Speaker 2: Coach Cohen's speech at the end, but he got mentioned
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  Speaker 2: first in a speech. You could see, you know that
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  Speaker 2: the team likes him as a person and wants to
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  Speaker 2: see him do well. And it was one of those moments.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, it's not only a moment for him, but
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  Speaker 2: also a team moment. It's like, yeah, we're bringing everyone in.
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  Speaker 2: So it was awesome. And what player What? Dude's a baller.
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  Speaker 2: Straight up baller.
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  Speaker 1: A massive season for him so far. Really put in
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  Speaker 1: like a statement season for Ray One Lane. Should we
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  Speaker 1: hear your conversation with him, Rhys? I feel like we should.
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  Speaker 2: Anyone who's called the third is a G. Straight up.
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  Speaker 2: If you're the third, you know, the second is epic.
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  Speaker 2: Like the second is like... James the second. Okay, amazing.
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  Speaker 2: When you're a third, we are joined by... I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: the man of the game. The man of the game
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  Speaker 2: against the Colts. What a moment. Rayon Lane III, welcome
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  Speaker 2: to Tilt Talk, brother. How are you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, how are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good, thank you, sir.
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  Speaker 4: I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think on Saturday night, was there a moment
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  Speaker 2: where you was in bed before the game and you
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  Speaker 2: kind of visualized how you wanted things to go? Was
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  Speaker 2: the pick six in that visualization?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I would say probably not.
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  Speaker 5: Honestly, I wasn't sure when I was going to go in,
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  Speaker 5: how was I going, what position or anything like that.
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  Speaker 5: All I knew was that whenever my opportunity would come,
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  Speaker 5: that I was going to put my best foot forward
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  Speaker 5: and try to do my job to my best ability
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  Speaker 5: to help my teammates out. And it just so happened that, hey,
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  Speaker 5: the opportunity came and I happened to be ready.
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  Speaker 4: And it was an awesome moment.
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  Speaker 2: Talk us through, though, because when you're tracking back, you see...
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  Speaker 2: You see Daniel Jones throwing. At what point do you think, well,
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  Speaker 2: two parts to that question. At what point do you think, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go for this. I'm going to go
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  Speaker 2: for the catch. And then whereabouts when on the return
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  Speaker 2: do you think, oh, I'm taking this home?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so honestly, as soon as you let it go,
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  Speaker 5: you know, anytime I see the ball in the air,
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  Speaker 5: I automatically assume it's going to be mine.
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  Speaker 4: Whether it's realistic or not, I always like to think
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  Speaker 4: that it's going to be mine.
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  Speaker 5: And then once I caught it, and I think I
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  Speaker 5: took maybe like six or seven strides, I felt pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: I've done it before in college, so I thought I
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  Speaker 4: could make it to the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, I think that was that. Was it Memphis? You
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  Speaker 2: did it again?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I had one in Memphis, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, wow, wow. So one thing that
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  Speaker 2: I loved, I'm sure you've watched the video a few times,
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  Speaker 2: but in the video, I think you must have been
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  Speaker 2: at the 20-yard, 10-yard line, You see Coach Cohen. What's
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  Speaker 2: it like just feeling the love from the team? Because
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, especially in the locker room afterwards, your
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  Speaker 2: name got shouted out first. I feel like there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people in the organization that want to see
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  Speaker 2: you win. Does it feel like that? And you personally?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, obviously being able to see that was awesome.
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  Speaker 5: It was actually my mom that sent a clip. I
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  Speaker 5: think it was from the TV copy or something like that.
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  Speaker 5: And I just seen him running down to the sideline
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  Speaker 5: all excited and stuff like that. So it definitely fired
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  Speaker 5: me up. But at the end of the day, it
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  Speaker 5: was just really cool to make a play like that
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  Speaker 5: for my team. Just had that momentum and excited to
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  Speaker 5: go to M & T Bank and take care of business.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we definitely took care of business. And one person that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we don't really get to speak about too much,
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  Speaker 2: but I think the numbers don't really lie. Arguably, I
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  Speaker 2: think he's probably the best special teams coach in the league.
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  Speaker 2: But Coach Farwell, describe what it's like playing under him.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he's a beast, and I think his real
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  Speaker 5: emphasis are details and strains.
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  Speaker 4: So, like, he will never let you go out there
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  Speaker 4: with any confusion.
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  Speaker 5: And so when there's no confusion, he just allows you
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  Speaker 5: to play fast and with ultimate effort. So just being
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  Speaker 5: able to go through that, and then obviously he has experience.
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  Speaker 5: He's played in this league before. He's seen the ins
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  Speaker 5: and outs. So just being able to go up to
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  Speaker 5: his office, have those conversations, and see how he sees it,
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  Speaker 5: see how we see it, and then talk about it.
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  Speaker 4: It's awesome. I think that's why we.
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  Speaker 5: All love playing for him and just we can go
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  Speaker 5: out there and play on Sundays or whatever day.
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  Speaker 2: And how did that conversation with him go after the game?
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  Speaker 2: Did you two have a little moment? What did he
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  Speaker 2: say to you?
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  Speaker 4: Of course, of course.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Coach, he's always been right for me. We
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  Speaker 5: always talk and everything like that. So just for, you know,
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  Speaker 5: to go out there and make a play like that
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  Speaker 5: and let everybody see and just how much work has
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  Speaker 5: been put into it and how much work is still
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  Speaker 5: going to go into it.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it was, it was awesome.
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  Speaker 2: So Ray, and I wanted to talk to you about
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  Speaker 2: something that I feel like, especially a lot of fans,
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  Speaker 2: even myself outside the U S you went to, you
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  Speaker 2: went to college for, for, for Navy. How does that,
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  Speaker 2: how does that actually work? Because I'm sure you must've
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: had offers from other colleges as well. Your, your plan
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  Speaker 2: was to, and forgive me, this is my ignorance showing
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  Speaker 2: here because we don't have the same system here in
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  Speaker 2: the UK. You, you wanted to join the Navy in general,
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  Speaker 2: go and serve and be a part of the Navy.
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  Speaker 2: The football was always there in the back of your
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  Speaker 2: mind because I don't feel you see so many players
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  Speaker 2: from Navy and Army go to the league. So how
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  Speaker 2: does that even, I have no idea how that works.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it was really just an interesting story
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  Speaker 5: in general because I was actually really lightly recruited out
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: of high school.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: So I only had, I think, maybe two, or three
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: offers at the time.
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: And so one of the offers happened to be Navy
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: and Navy was really right.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: In my backyard.
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: Like it's not far from where I live at all.
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: So I was able to take a visit there and
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: basically settled on that's what I wanted to do. That's
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: where I wanted to go. And so basically just went
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: through the pipeline four years of learning how to become
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: a officer in the Marine Corps and then making it
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: to graduation and also majoring in quantitative economics. Doing that
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: whole thing, but obviously still keeping up with football and
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: just hoping that I would get a shot at it.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: So just doing that and then keep grinding. And it
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: ended up that I'm able to do both now.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Good for you, dude. Good for you. And when you
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: say both, you mean you're still technically in the Navy
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: now whilst playing?
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: So right now I'm in the Marine Corps as a
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: reserve officer.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Bro, that's crazy. That's wild.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: How many other NFL players are also– is there a
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: group of you?
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so from Navy specifically, we have three other guys
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: that are on NFL rosters right now.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: So we got Eli Heidenreich.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: He plays with the Steelers. Landon Robinson, he plays with
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: the Bengals. And then Joe Cardona, which he's a little
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: bit older.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: But Landon and Eli, I played with both of them. Like,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: they just got drafted. this year.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: So, yeah.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: That's wild. And I'm thinking kind of stereotypically, I would
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: imagine that you get pushed with discipline when you're at Navy.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Has that served you in the NFL, especially with that
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: special teams mentality? Do you not, maybe not at the Jags,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: but when you've played against other teams, do you kind of,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: do you always know that your work ethic is going
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: to kind of overcome someone who may be, I don't know,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: soft in training or something like that, or you just
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: know like you're just going to work harder than anyone?
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, for sure. I think it definitely helps
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: in football.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: But overall, I think it's just a good principle to
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: have for life in general. So I think being at
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: the Naval Academy really taught me a lot, you know, discipline, leadership,
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: all those types of things that I'm able to carry
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: over into this building and then into life and with
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: my family and all those things.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: And Ray, I need to talk to you about London.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Give me some of the, how was London for you?
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: What did you get up to? Were you staying in
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the hotel room? Did you manage to get to the city?
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Did you follow Jarion and spend too much money on clothes?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: What actually went down? Give me what happened.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to lie. I'm a pretty chill guy.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: So I pretty much stayed in the hotel for the
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: most part and ate the food. I did get to
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: go downtown into the city a little bit, but for
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: the most part, it was a business trip for me.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Business trip. That's the way that's okay. Well put. And
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: for our audience as well, it could be a movie
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: that we didn't expect. It could be something that you
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: do in Jacksonville when you're not playing, but what's something
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: people might not know about who you are, the real you.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: One, one thing is I like to garden. So I
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: got like a little vegetable garden, like tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: I got some strawberries, all that different type of stuff.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: I've really, Was into it a little like maybe three
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: or four years ago, but since then there's been a
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: lot going on. So now my plot is a little
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: bit smaller, but I'm still into it. I still had
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: a green thumb. So I like growing, you know, anything
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: I can.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Okay. That's amazing. You're going to get hit up now
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: by every, every gardening brand out there. Now I see
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: the series coming. Rayon, thank you so much for coming.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: One more question. The rest of this year, the team
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: feels so special this year. Like, the the energy is
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: just infectious you think we dominate for the rest of
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: the season how do you see things going or maybe
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: let's start with the ravens first and then think as
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: a whole yeah.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Obviously we got to take it one day at a
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: time but i think our mindset we're in a good
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: place So basically, I feel like it's going to be
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: on us. We have to go out there and continue
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: to set the standard, be the standard, and then rise
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: above the standard when it comes to practice, meetings, all
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: those different types of things.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: And then when we play, being able to watch the film,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: get everything.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: Corrected that we need to get corrected and just keep
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: moving forward one day at a time.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Let everything fall into place how it should.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you, brother. Thank you very much. And congrats again
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: on this season so far.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: No doubt. Thanks for having me.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Thank you, bro.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Rhys Parkinson, Ray One Lane, the third, who obviously had
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: that massive game against the Indianapolis Colts. And hopefully, of course,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: we'll build on that for the rest of this season. Rhys,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: that's not the only person that we're speaking to today, Rhys,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: is it?
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: No, from Ray One Lane, the third, to Jason Bell,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: the first? Yeah, I think he's the first. Not quite
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the third. Sorry, J-Bell. But J-Bell, the first, is on
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: the podcast now. J-Bell, how are you, sir?
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: All is good. What's up, my brother? Always great to
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: hear and see you. You're always doing something fun, something cool.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'd like to be on this ride of
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: life with you.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Love it.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Love it. It's usually Mr. Lawrence, not that one, J. Lawrence,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: that usually gets to chat to you on the pod.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: So this is a nice treat for me this week. I... Okay,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: this is the first time... That it's going to just
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: be me and you going solo here. I was listening
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: to some R & B before kicking off the podcast.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: So I feel like you're a man that would appreciate this.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: If I was to say, every time I try to leave,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: something keeps pulling me back, me back.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Is that how you feeling right now?
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Is that really how you feeling?
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Jack's W. And I'm straight to the Tyrese and Chingy.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Every time I try to leave, something keeps pulling me back,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: me back.
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: All I'm thinking about is the music video right now.
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: I'm literally seeing the music video right now. Hey, that's
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: when Jingy was at his height, man. That was a
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: good ride for him.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: He crushed it. A nice little three, four-year run.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Killed it. Killed it. That's funny, man. I didn't expect that.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: But that's how I'm feeling. After a Jax W like that,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: how could I not? How could I not?
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: It's amazing, too, because one thing I'm always looking for
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: is when you're a good team and you, I would say,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville's going from good to great. I need you to
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: beat up on bad teams. Like I hate to say it,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: like you got to beat up on a bad team.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: You don't play down to their level. You are playing
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: against a team that now in their locker room, there's
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: a lot of things changing. And as a player, you
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: get motivated by that because you're playing for your career.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: So you're amped up, ready to go. It could be
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: one of those games where you, I call it a
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: trap game. You get everybody's best because they're playing for
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: their future on a team or another team. But you
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: got to put them people to sleep. You got to
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: put them to bed. And that's exactly what they did.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: That's what I like to see when I start thinking
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: about championship teams. You did take the pace. You never
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: go down and play to your opponent's level. And that's
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: exactly what they did this weekend. They went out there
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: and made it happen.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, J-Bo, this feels like a bit of
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: a stupid question, really. But where do you feel like
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the game was won? Because from you saying that, it
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: kind of sounds like it was won very early when
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: they set how this game is going to go. They
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: set the tone.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, what am I looking for?
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: What's your identity is? Can you repeat that? Well, you
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: got takeaways. This is who you are. You always have
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: been that. We talked, I mean, even coming into this year,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: it was like, can they continue this? Yes, they could.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Who do you need to stop? You need to stop
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor. You need to stop the run. They did that.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: What do you need to do? You need to be
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: able to run the ball. Well, goodness gracious, they were
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: doing that. And I love how Liam Cohen was designing
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: the run game. So that was the key, man. What's
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: your identity? You set the tone. They did it early,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: like you said. But what they are and who they
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: are continued this game.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: And you may have alluded to it there. And I
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: feel like we've been saying his name wrong. Because in
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the broadcast, they said there's the right way to say
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Basial Tootin's name. So I need to double check that again.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: But who gets the game book? How did they say it?
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: They said.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: I only know Basial Tootin.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I know Basial Tootin. But the way they said it,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: they were like, hey, I think we've been saying this name.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: They spoke about Travis A-chan and said another running back
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: whose name I think we've been saying wrong is Baishal Tootin.
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: We can double check. Who gets your game ball? I'm
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: not putting any biased thoughts there.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Listen, you know where we're headed with this.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Come on now.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: We're talking about my man Tuten. You know? Because Basial,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I hope I'm saying it the right way, but we
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: will correct it. If not, he gets the game ball.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, 104 yards rushing. He had explosive runs. He
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: was great receiving out of the backfield. That was the key.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: And for this team to continue to go, to continue
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: to roll in the direction it needs to, this running
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: game needs to be clicking. This is one thing Liam
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Cohen did when he was in Tampa Bay, right? So
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: you're seeing it happen here. And Trevor's playing the way
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: he is because his running game is sustaining, making it easy,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: manageable third downs when you get there. So Basie Tootin, man,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: he is making it happen. Reminds me of back in
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: the day, you know, when they had Freddie T, Boris Jones, Drew,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: making it happen. So a great running back, man. Him
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: and that, a combination with Chris Rodriguez. I like what
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: they're doing back there.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Did you see this coming this year with Basial? Because
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: trading Travis Achan, it kind of felt like, here's your, like,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: bit of make or break here. Like, we're betting on you,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: so you got to come through. Did you predict it
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: going like it has so far?
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: No chance. I didn't predict it, but I did have
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: confidence in Liam Cohen and his ability to design the
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: run game because I've seen it before. So if he
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: thought he had the guys on the roster that had
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: the skill set to be able to do what he
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: needed to do in the running game, well, you've got
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: to lean on that because as the head coach and
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator, if he didn't, he would have went
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: and got a guy that fit that. So, yeah, it
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: makes sense, but, man, you never know until you see it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: We're seeing it now.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I think this is quite a tough question here, but
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: the under the radar player for the Jags this game,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: who are you going with?
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Well, I went with a position group. I didn't really
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: think about a player, but I was looking at the
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: way they were using three tight ends on the field.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: And obviously you're seeing teams do that because it helps
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: with the running game, right? You got more tight ends
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: on the field, which puts you in base defense, your opponent.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: And then you can.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Kind of- Explain that base defense.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: So you got, you know, three linebackers on the field
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: instead of two and a nickelback, right? So you're taking
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: your nickel out and bringing a linebacker in, basically.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Got it.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: So you get bigger bodies on the field because you
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: want to match bigger bodies with bigger bodies. That's what
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: you're trying to do. When you see a personnel group
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: come in, you're trying to match with a personnel group
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: that has the athletic skill set or the physical size.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: You know, that's what you're trying to do. So you go,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: you bring multiple tight ends on the field. You bring
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: more linebackers or bigger bodies on the field. to run
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: at them, right? And then that allows you to play
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: action pass off of that and hopefully have a bigger body,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: a better athlete, things like that. But you got to
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: be able to run the ball. And when you have
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: multiple tight ends on the field and the way you
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: move them, motion them and things like that, you create gaps,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: which that's all the running game is, you know, the
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: gaps and leverage, but you can use them and design
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: things in a way that makes it hard for defenses.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: And I liked a what Liam Cohen was doing with
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: those packages. He's going to need that. I mean, that's
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: what the good offenses are doing in the NFL right now.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: And, you know, it was interesting seeing the end of
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: the game. I love Coach Cohen's kind of when he
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: runs through, when he runs into the locker room at
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: the end. But, you know, he was like, right, quick week,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: straight on to Thursday. Like, enjoy this, enjoy tonight, but
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: go on to Thursday. What could we improve from that game? If,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say if anything, but.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Well, I like his style and I like how you
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: teed that up because you want to go in and
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: you want them to celebrate that moment because you got
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: to get into it quick, right? So you need that
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: moment to lock in. Winning is hard in the league.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: But one thing that's been plaguing them all year is
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: the penalties. So obviously you want to clean that up.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: and protecting Trevor Lawrence. I mean, I think it was
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: three sacks this game. So you want to protect him,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: and then he lost a fumble. So ball security. So
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: these are all things you're going to have to say, hey,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: it's the small things, the details. You're going to remind
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: people in the meeting rooms because especially offensive penalties always
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: upset me because they usually set you back behind the sticks,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: you know, and down in distances. Defensive penalties come and go.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: I know they're tough, but offensive penalties, especially pre-snap, I'm like, man,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: you got to clean that up. So that's the conversation
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: I think they need to have.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Okay. And then going into Thursday's game against the Ravens,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: you feel like Lamar being out just sets the tone
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: for the Ravens to, I don't know, their season kind
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: of collapse and it sets us up. What's your thoughts?
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: You don't know who a quarterback you're playing against, right?
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: So that's tough to game plan for. But regardless, it's
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: the same as this week. You do not play down
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: to your opponent or who's out there. You set the tone.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, this defense is going to go out there.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: That is the Baltimore Ravens. They're going to try to
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: stand up. They're going to try to make it hard.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: They're going to try to make it dirty and ugly, right?
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: So they're going to get on the field and they're
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: going to be aggressive and things of that nature. And
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: on offense, whoever's playing quarterbacked, You know, they're going to
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: try to run the clock as much as possible and
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: play keep away. You know, you want to keep the
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: ball away from that offense of Jacksonville. You want to
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: make it dirty and get in the fourth quarter. They
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: can't have that. They got to come out early and
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: they got to make sure they put a dominant performance
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: on the field and make this team quick. That's the thing.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: You know, you want to say, hey, your season is over.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: If you're going to be a championship team, like I
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: said before, you got to put bad teams out early
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: and say we are the standard team. And we're going
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: to dictate the pace of the game.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Bad teams out early. I love that. I've got to
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: put them to sleep. On that note, J-Bell, give me
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: a little prediction against the Ravens. What are we going with?
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Man, let me think.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Let's go 27-17.
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: Why not?
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: It could be 27-10, but I'm going to just go 27-17.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: I had 27-3.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: You might be right, man. I'm just, you know, let
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: me switch mine up to say 27 to 10, man.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: 27 to 10. Okay. Just to clarify the Jags, by
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, come on, man.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Like, what are we talking about? Of course. MVP Trevor Lawrence, man.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Long hair don't care. We're rolling.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: So, J-Bo, you're saying... MVP Trevor Lawrence right now? Has
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: he done enough already to, where are you placing him?
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Are you saying like top five or he's leading the
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: pack for MVP?
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Man, he's a top three in my opinion. Look at
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: what he's done. Look at how he's performing. Look at
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: what's happening. Going out there, making it happen. I think
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: the way he's performing, the way he's performed in the
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: past two years, right? He has shown you this guy
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: is one of the top quarterbacks. This is one of
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: the top teams. He's performing at a high level. This
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: is what you expected when you drafted him, right? This
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: was the expectation. He is no longer disappointed. And what
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I mean by that, it will be moments in the
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: game he'd be playing well, then it'd come down to
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: the end of the game or a situation and he'd
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: make a plan. You'd be like, man, what is happening?
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: He kind of fell apart. That is no longer what
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Trevor's doing. Complete command of the offense, making it happen.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: This is an MVP run. If this team continues to
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: play the way they are, This is the conversation we're
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: going to have. You know the MVP is usually the
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: number one seed in the conference. That's what we're fighting for.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: J-Bell, I've got two more for you. The first one is,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: if you stepped inside the Colts organization now and they
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: put you as GM, because forgive me, I forgot the
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: owner's name, but I love the lady that's on the sideline.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: She's in the action, taking notes, and I love that.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: What are you doing this week? before the trade deadline,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: you going in for Shador? You having a little Shador trade?
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: What are you doing? Are you getting rid of Jonathan Taylor?
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: How would you.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Sit down today on a Monday and go, right, this
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: is what we need to do?
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah. So if you're the new GM who's just
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: been elevated, everything you're doing is based on what the
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: owner tells you to do. That's your job. You know,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: if we're coming in, if we're sellers, we're sellers. If
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: we're buyers, we're buyers. And when that happens, it is
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: all predicated on what the owner wants, because that's what
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: we're dealing with. Your decisions, you're not making them. You know, it's, hey,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: we're trying to get draft picks. We're trying to build.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: We're trying to get this. We're trying to get the
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: situation to look like this for whatever else we want
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: to bring in, because now you're recruiting. You're recruiting whether
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: it's a new head coach or a new GM, whatever.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: So if you're the current GM, you want to prove
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: to the owner that you can get done what they need.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: And if it comes down to, hey, we got to
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: sell this player at a good price, well, you got
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: to make that look good. But they are definitely sellers
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: right now. So, hey, good players want out because good
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: players want to win. So, like, when you look at
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor, there's a lot of teams that want him.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: You have a great relationship with him. He was a
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: great coach. You got to handle that in a way
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: that's respectable to the organization, to the fans, to the players.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: That's what your job is right now.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Fascinating. It is, yeah. I didn't realize it was that
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: direct with the owner. Like I thought the GM had
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: a little bit of like, what's the word? Not independence,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: but maybe, yeah, let's say independence to kind of take
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: it their way. But I mean, that's interesting. It's that
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: kind of business. It's do what the owner says.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if you're in a position where you
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: got a great team and you think you got, you're
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: going on a Superbowl run and you think I need
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: this kind of player and you go to the owner said, Hey,
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: I think we need this kind of player. Well, yes,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: that's your decision. You better hope it's right. But in
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: this situation, in these circumstances, I mean, they're moving on.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: So when you start getting rid of good players on
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: your team, that, that that's what it is.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: And my final question is about coach Cohen. I think,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Is it not obvious if you're an organization that you
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: would want to hire someone like him? I sometimes look
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: around in the league and see other coaches and either
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: they just haven't got the aura. They don't seem like
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: they can lead a team. They don't seem hungry. Like,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: is it that obvious? Or am I just thinking in
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: hindsight here? Like, well, you know, maybe it's easy for
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: me to look now when he's running in the dressing room,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: punching down, everyone's got his back. Like, it just seems
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: like people hire such, like, Don't you look at a
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: blueprint that works and do that again? Or am I just.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I think they do look at a blueprint that works
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: and they hope that this individual fits into the organization.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: But let's think how many jobs come up each year,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: what's available. A lot of these decisions are based upon thinking,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: all right. Do I get a play caller because I
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: don't want to lose a play caller? So now am
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: I picking a guy that's a head coach that calls
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: plays because then I got that handled? So these are
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: all conversations that are had. So it could take hours
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: to talk about that. But what I do think is this.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: You know, you get into this role and you got
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: there because you did something well, whether it's called plays
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: on offense or defense, whatever that might be. You get
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: in that locker room and you have to manage people.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: You have to manage personalities well. Are you your authentic self?
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Are you trying to be somebody else? You know, you
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: might have looked at a coach and thought, man, that's
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: what a head coach looks like. I'm going to behave
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: like that. That's not you. Players figure that out. You
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: have to be yourself and you have to do a
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: couple of things, which is players want to play better.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: So you got to provide solutions for that. And you
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: got to be fair, you know, and it's different to,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: you know, you do treat players different because there's different personalities.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: But are you consistent? Are you preparing us? Do we
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: respect you because you are who you are and you're
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: authentic and we can deal with that? That's the hard
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: part of coaching. And ultimately, man, it's got to work.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: You know, it's got to look good. You know, you
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: can say all these things and do all these things.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: You got to win games. I got to play well.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: You're telling me to do something. I do it and
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: it works. I go, well, I'm going to listen to you.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: There you go. You tell me, you make some changes,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: do some things. We go out and win. You know,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: practice was hard. It was difficult.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: All that.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: We make it happen. You're like, all right, this is
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: our dude. We're riding with him. It's a result business.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: You have to win. We want to play better. Can
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: you provide that? That is a head coach.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: J-Bell, appreciate you, brother. Thank you very much. Love that.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Till next time, bro.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: See you then. Thank you.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Jason Bell with a huge shout there, Rhys. Huge shout.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, MVP. Do you want me to... Should I
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: give you some odds? Who might be favourite for the MVP?
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, go for it.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: So this is just from one particular place, okay? Trevor
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Lawrence is currently fifth.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Fifth?
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Fifth favourite in this one particular place.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Who else is.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is fourth. Brock Purdy is third. Joe Burrow
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: is second. Josh Allen is first. And I feel like
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence has been done a little bit dirty in
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: those odds, to.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Be honest with you. Yeah, I don't know the exact stats,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: but I'm thinking how's Joe Burrow ahead of Trevor Lawrence?
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Do you know what? And I'm going to go back to...
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I saw him to be.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Fine last game. He threw like... I was watching that
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Bengals game. Dude had like... Joe had... Burrow's had like five...
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I think it was the most throws for touchdowns against
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: the Titans. To be fair. So maybe I've got to
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: take that back. But still, I'm like.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's the stat that I told you earlier, Rhys.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: That stat where he's leading games early. I will... Maybe
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I'll do some research before the next podcast and I'll
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: compare how many minutes he's been on the field compared
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: to Joe Burrow, let's say.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Brilliant.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Because I wouldn't be surprised if it's literally like a
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: whole game less.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Brilliant.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Brilliant.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Would you? I just wouldn't be surprised.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: That's great. Yeah.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: No, that's great.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I think it's a really good shout, and it's nice
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: to hear Jason supporting that. Josh Allen's first, Joe Burrow's second,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Brock Purdy third, Caleb Williams fourth, Trevor Lawrence fifth, and
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: then it goes to Drake May, Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Jordan Love, all quarterbacks, of course.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Interesting, all QBs, yeah.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's essentially a QB award, isn't it? Let's be honest. Okay,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens up next, who don't really have a quarterback
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: because Lamar Jackson is on eye Tyler Huntley's injured. It
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: looks like that their third string quarterback, Joe Fagnano, who
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: played in his first game the other day, Rhys, he
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: might not even be available. They've had to sign, Ravens
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: have signed, Austin Reed, and Caden Slovis, who, with all
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: due respect to both of them, aren't NFL regulars, aren't,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: you know, first team regulars, so, and of course have
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: to go in with about two days notice and play
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: this game, so this is going to be insane.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Got, um, in my opinion, in my opinion, we, again,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: it should be a Colts-esque game, should destroy them, but
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's someone's time to be a hero.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't surprise me. Like, you know, I don't know if
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: you're a basketball guy, but do you remember when pretty
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: much the same thing happened and they put in Jeremy
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Lin for the Lakers?
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Oh, well.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: If you remember Lin Sanity. Lin Sanity, yes. So the
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: only fear that you have with these ones is dude
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: does not care. Like, this is my chance. Why am
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: I going to be timid?
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: It's like win-win.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: We have nothing to lose. I win. You're going to
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: expect me to be terrible with two days' notice. If
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: I do anything but be terrible, I'm a hero. But that's,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, we should destroy them. Got good weapons, though,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: on offense. The Ravens, they're not a joke. It really depends,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I guess. Again, kind of, you know, I think Lamar's
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: out for the season, actually. I think he's out for
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: the season.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he is, yeah.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: So, you know, are they going to be looking at, like,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: nothing to play for? But still, fundamentally, we should win
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: this game.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: The predictions were Jason went 27-10.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: You went 27-3.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I went blowout. I did go blowout.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go 37-10.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: And let's do this, let's do this. Before you drop
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: that mic, let's do this. At which point, this is
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: going to be so bad if we lose, but at
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: which point does Trevor Lawrence come out of the game?
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: This is a great question. Because we're up so much
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: to clarify. You are completely correct that this could come
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: back to bite us quite massively. 37-10, he comes out
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: of the game with 10 minutes left. That's a lot.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: That is a lot.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Okay. Let's see if the Jay Lawrence theory is correct.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: And for next week, I will find out how many
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: minutes he's played compared to like all the other MVP candidates.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: And that's, in my opinion, why he isn't up there
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: further because the Janks have just been so good. I'm
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: feeling good about it though. And first Thursday night football
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: of the season as well. So make sure that you've
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: got the Friday morning off.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Friday be absolutely shattered. It's worth it. It's worth it
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: if we win, to your prediction, 37-10. I'll take it.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely. And also it has to be said as
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: well that it's going to be on Sky Sports, so
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: you can watch it there, Jacksonville Jaguars facing the Baltimore
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Ravens in, and I think we can all agree, a
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: 37-10 victory race.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just a quick one before we sign out.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I say Baltimore. You say Baltimore. Am I doing it
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: wrong or are you doing it wrong? Listeners, you decide.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: What do I say?
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Baltimore.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: And what do you say?
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Baltimore.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Baltimore.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Baltimore.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. This is riveting stuff. You can let us
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: know via the comments or you can give us a
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: little tweet, can't you? Baltimore, Baltimore.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: You know what? I don't feel like the fans need
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: any inspiration. Dominating against the Colts. Let's dominate against the Ravens.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Then we can chill on Sunday, decide if we want
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: to watch the other games and just go, yeah, look,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: we did it.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: The benefit of Thursday night football, isn't it? Because you
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: can enjoy your weekend. You could just chill out, you know,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: have a nice Sunday evening.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: You don't have to stress.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Relax. Yeah, chill out.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: We'll be back in a few days time. This has
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: been a Shooting Shark production for Jacksonville Jaguars UK and Ireland.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: in partnership with Gallagher, back next week. Rhys, do you
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: want to give us a Duval? Do you want to
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: annoy your neighbours?
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Since you're in Spain, it's time for a Duval!
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, very good, very good.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: Very good.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Let's go!
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Nueva York!
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: Thank you. so so Thank you. Thank you.