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3 Guys Before The Game - A Date With Caitlin? (Episode 540) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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And the way we go. Thank you for tuning in. It's time for
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Three Guys Before the Game, Episode number five hundred and forty. For those
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of you that are scoring at home, the title A date with Caitlin question
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mark. I can't jeez a date. You fell into that trap too,
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with Caitlin question mark. If you didn't have the question mark on there,
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you'd be presumptuous. You put the question mark out there, and you might.
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You might have a date with Laitlan, a bad coach. You would
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be well, it's not what I do. True, that's not what I
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do. I kind of do a little bit of and ask the question.
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Yeah, I mean he's just asking the question. H thank you. I
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mean, because you never throw anything out on your little gab fest that you
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do to get responsible. No one's ever accused you of doing that. I
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Last week I took a couple bags of Cheetos. I'll tell you what
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now, that will give you a little bit of a that'll give you a
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challenge getting that cheese off your fingers. I mean, by the time you
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go through two bags, your thumbs well, in fairness, I think when
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you eat those, you should you should wipe after every bite. You just
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were going so fast into the bag you didn't wipe until the end, and
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by then it's two. It's two ingrained in. About twenty minutes after I
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got done with those, I had myself talked that said, you know,
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you really only needed one of those, and you'll probably get two bags.
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Sure, two small bags. They were little bags. Yeah, nevertheless,
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and in fairness, one bag is just yeah, I'm done. Who are
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they kidding on that? Like who eats one little bag? Yeah, it's
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hard. Normally I'm on you for those things. But you're right, you
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had two bags, got six cheetahs. I'll due respect to the packagers at
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Cheatahs. I'll respect wonderful people. They are cheetahs, a no question about
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that. So on our program today we preview West Virginia against Princeton and the
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women's NCAA basketball Tournament. We'll talk a little Mountaineer football, just a teeny
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little bit because Neil Brown is hosting his pre spring practice press conference as we
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record, and they start practice on Monday, and once again this year,
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they're going in the mornings practicing. Last year worked well last year. They
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seem to like that a lot. So Neil's going to go through the whole
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litany of changes that have happened during the off season, your rosters, your
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coaches, your player position battles and il transfer portal, all that kind of
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thing. Ference of ear mix. Yeah right, mm hmmm mm hm oh.
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Really things can turn around in a year. Yes, it's not just
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once it's going badly it's going to stay bad forever, not necessarily. No,
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things can pop pretty quickly, Yes they can, Yeah, they could.
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Lesson in there, they can, and textual healing's coming up. And
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the hardest thing that I personally will be faced with during the recording of this
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episode is that the NCAA tournament has started and it's going to take me everything
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to stop doing this. Well, that's what'd you say. Brad's already zoned
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out. The bread were doing a show. Brad's got the great angle,
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and so do you hopey you could pretend you're looking at me. Absolutely,
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I'm looking at you right now, like I have to look at those guys.
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But I just want to go really, I'm watching Michigan State in mississip
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Are you talking James Bell on the floor right now? Jimmy Bell always a
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West Virginia connection, always Yeah. Although he just tried to hedge on a
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screen and vacated the lane and they went right over the top of him.
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Yeah, he might be coming out Christian saying Okay, that's enough of that.
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Things will happen quickly in this tournament. I do believe that you could
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make a strong argument that it is the if you have five great days in
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sports a year five, this would be at least one at a minimum,
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and it might take two of the five spaces Thursday and Friday. I think,
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give me two, yeah, give me two on that. I mean,
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because it's noon, right, and he's just started, and you can
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now go until past midnight tonight before the last game's over. In every game
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is elimination, and so everyone's butt is on the line. Things get tight.
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I thought the two the two last two nights in the playing games great,
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two great games. But the two things. One you're exactly right on
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the Thursday, like you're just giddy, here's the tournament beginning. And then
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at midnight, after midnight when you go to bed and you've seen all these
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great games, you know it's great tomorrow. You know, oh I get
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to do it again tomorrow. Now Onlike Kerchieval who gets all over basketball teams
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at Thanksgiving time. You and I love that because you get afternoon weird start
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times. You play noon right. He pooh poos that because claims they don't
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matter. But now hop these matter. This is a winner, go home.
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So there's a lot more online. So now you're on board, come
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on board. In fact, I was watching last night, was it n
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I t or n CUAA Seaton Hall and st game? But I watched the
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end of it. By the way, the camera angle at seat in the
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hall got a little bit nauseous. Yeah, not ideal. Really, it's
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weird. I don't know if they're playing in an old gym what it's up
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top, But it wasn't the regular floor, No, I think it was.
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But it's just like you were way up. I mean you were.
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But they're playing in their small campus gym. Now they don't. They don't
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play in the whatever the Metal Lands or whatever that was. They don't play
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there anymore. They're in the every time i've seen him this year, they're
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in their campus gym. Got like a stage at the back stage. Yeah,
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like curtain comes across. Oh geez, I didn't know that. But
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the hawk was flapping. Was it flapping? Was it flap? So still
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he's still in operation, but it came down and seating the hall one.
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You know again, it's great finish, and that's what you know. Brad
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wants to just go twelve hours till he's bleary eyed. I just want I'll
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be flicking to see good finishes. That's what I'm interested in. That's fine.
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I realized you got other things to do. But you know what it
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is. It feels like and you guys are really into it. It kind
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of feels like a holiday. Like if I'm gonna go today, I'm gonna
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go out my office and do some work, but I'm gonna have the games
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absolutely right. Now, here's the way. Here's the bad part of the
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brackets make that possible too, right, there's so many more. That's what
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helps bring even some casuals in is because you get to fill out your brackets.
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Here's the bad part of what you said. You said something there what
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he shouldn't be in your office when this is on. This should become two
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national holidays. Thursday and Friday should be national holidays. People shouldn't work.
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It should be like sponsored by the Chicken Producers Association of America and they should
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just have chicken wings and cold beers. Well, and that should just be
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like everyone should just sit around and watch games. If you listen to Senatra
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Bernie Sanders, you will be off on Thursday and Friday. I don't know
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what that means, but just we don't do politics here, okay, we
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keep away from that all right, So what's on the other channel? So
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this is again, this is going to be dated when people listen to it,
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so we won't spend a lot of time on these current games. But
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BYU Ducaine out of oh mah, this this is interesting to me. I
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think BYU can make a little run here. Yes, because they should win
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today. They should be able to beat Dukane. It's a wonderful story with
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Ducaine getting in for the first time of fifty years, but then BYU gets
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Illinois, assuming Illinois can get through Illinois BYU in the second round. I
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got a little interest in that one. Mm hmm. What he was talking
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about though, is why why are we watching the drama? Because Hot much
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like a great bartender in Las Vegas that knows what's coming, I don't just
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deal with what's right in front of you. There's some planning that goes into
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being able to handle this day like a true professional. So coming up while
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we're on the air will be Game three on that TV. I can't get
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up in the middle of the podcast, so I want to have it set
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for you so you could watch the third game. So there's planning involved,
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not just showing up winging it here, got a little matrix with the games
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on. I have it ready for you, So all three will be showing
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you basketball when that comes up. So you gotta watch Bewitched or Charmed or
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whatever this is. That's bewitched. Bewitched. That's got to be the Hallmark
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channel that has But it looks like a Hallmark show. Here's the thing,
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Hoppy. As as we just outlined, I don't go very wide in my
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interests, but I go awful deep when it comes to this day. So
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don't question where the TVs are. They're properly tuned. Fair what's coming?
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Fair? B Why you player just lost it? Twos? For real?
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Yeah? Right, So try not to focus on Bewitched and watch TV one
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and two for Take your eyes off of Elizabeth Montgomery. It's not be witched.
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That's twice you've said bewitched. Look, it's not bewitched, Darren,
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it's charmed. It's charmed. For her mother was a pain in the ass
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too that much. All right, let's go what do we got so the
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Mountaineer basketball coaching search. And again I preface all of this by saying this,
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this show has probably got its shelf life. It could be over in
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six minutes. As far as dating things, tramble got something, No,
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but your flashlights on your phone? Oh? Ow yeah, anyway, go
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ahead, give the disclaimer. So the disclaimer on this show is we may
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reference a player two during these games when we scream or see something that is
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out of whack. For example, the kid that just lost his tooth in
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the BYU game. There's a boy Pat Driskoll, fan favorite Pat Driscoll.
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Pat Driscoll called the file against Villanova to put Mike Gansey at the line that
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sent us into the championship game at the Great Mountaineer Honorary Mountaineer. Right,
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is it correct? Anyway? So we may reference things that are like by
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the time that by the time the next couple days, that kid will have
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a full root canal and I'll have a replacement to things and will have made
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nine threes in game two of the tournament. Right. But as far as
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the WVU basketball coaching search goes okay, So the clock is on the clock
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is ticking, and when West Virginia names it's new basketball coach is going to
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be determined by what happens in these games that we're referencing. So when certain
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people are eliminated. That will expedite West Virginia's search. If there are certain
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people that are candidates that continue to win, then it will slow West Virginia's
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coaching search, which means that it could happen as early as you might start
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to hear some the drums banging, like potentially by this weekend. You might
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hear, Oh, it's going to be this person and there's a press conference
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early next week. Or it might go like and everyone's gonna be going like
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what the ex West Virginia doing with his coaching search, which means that it's
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probably done, but the coach that they're going to get is still playing,
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So that could happen as well. So it could happen earlier or it could
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be later, but things might get quiet if it gets later. Does that
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make sense. Yeah, And also if you want something else to watch for,
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I mean, you can always watch some of these games and then take
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a look at the handshake line after and see if ren is in the back
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of one of the handshake lines, he will not have a credential walking through
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the handshake. He won't know, I mean, he just positions himself last
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goes through the line to a coach that maybe has just lost, and he
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said, yeah, are you ready? Let me say this. I would
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say this, and Ren is extremely aggressive. I don't think he'll get in
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the handshake line. I don't think he would be fine. I'm watching games
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tonight with that in mind. You're not going to see him in the line.
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I wouldn't think he'll be off. It would actually be off on the
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corner a little bit and pull the guy off to this way, hand him
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the term sheet. When Michigan came to get John Bline, they were no
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more than three rows behind me at the press table in West Virginia's victory over
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Clemson to win the n I t is that right Blue suits had the old
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deal. They were right behind us, which we've often talked about on this
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show at least three or four times, that it was a classic West Virginia
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thing, like we won a world's championship, world championship, world's championship,
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and you couldn't celebrate it because like you would normally go back to the motel
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and you'd celebrate, but instead we're all going like we won the championship and
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we lost John. Yeah, and so we had to drown our sorrows with
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a big piece of pie. Okay, very testy. You yelled at the
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waitress because she wouldn't split the bill for us. It was all kinds of
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chaos. We just won a championship. I'd tell you what though, to
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here's a context. Is that Rin Baker though, is he's working it?
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I mean he's he is working it. Okay, It's not like, well
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we'll wait till the game's over then we'll I mean he's on it. I
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would say, if you wanted to use a basketball term, Wren is playing
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Press Virginia. He's getting up question, he's getting up in on him and
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you have to. You have to because the guys that you are interested in,
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and assuming that they are also interested in West Virginia, you don't want
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them if you've got to drag him. Here are also the names that other
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schools are mentioning. And guess what, Brad we talked about on my coffee
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clatch is the more they win, ye right. It's a weird dynamic because
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you you'd like a guy when they have success in March Madness, it heightens
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their profile. So that's always good for the pr hit when you hire.
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But from the from the mechanics of hiring somebody. There's also a big part
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of you going you know, you want to just go ahead and lose this
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on. I kind of hope they lose this one, right, So there
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you're you're fighting those two things. That's just part of the business and it's
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not quite Frankly, it's an unfortunate part of the business for both the school
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doing the hiring and the coach getting hired. That you can't just solely focus
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on what's happening at your school. You just can't. And it's a weird
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Kabooki dance because Kabooki dance good like that. You also don't want to put
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the coach and you know, we're trying to break the story along with others
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that family that it breaks one hour before the person has a game. Then
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it's just then it's hard on the coach on the other school. It's just
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that that's tough because then the first question after the games are you taking to
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West Virginia. So it's an awkward time, absolutely, and we've been there.
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Yeah, we've been on the other side of that. Yeah, it's
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not a fun time. It's not a fun time when the when the hyenas
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they're coming in to sniff the carcass. You go like, but you know
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my stance on this though, as I've said many times, there wasn't anybody
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reaching down to pick us up when when Coach Bline was gone right there anybody
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feeling sorry for you in that particular case. So it is the business is
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what the business is, and it's been expedited even more. The importance of
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getting your coach quickly has been expedited even more because the portal is open and
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it's just free. It's free game right now. As far as players go.
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You got to get your players. We had Coach Spiker on, he's
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the basketball coach over there at Drexel and Morgantown Native. We had him on
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yesterday and my man is a Tasmanian devil right now, hitting the road all
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over the place to try to get these kids that have gone into the portal.
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And he told a couple of good stories. We had him on sports
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Line last night. That's an evening program that I do. What time is
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that on? Well, most of the time, if you tuned it in,
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the guests that we have on have already been on your show. So
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we're kind of like, you know, kind of like a secondhand store if
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you don't got it anyway. So it's a busy time because when you're talking
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to coaches right now, and I may have used this analogy on Monday,
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coaches bring players with them and that's part of the conversation too, sure,
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like who you bring in with them? Like you bring in how many of
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your guys would come with you? We're gonna have because, let's face it,
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the West Virginia's roster could be completely start over or as big of a
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number of roster spots that we've ever seen. I don't know who's coming back.
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I'll tell you a couple I don't want back, but I don't think
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we're gonna mention names. But you know the other thing that happens now,
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and it's not just because the portals open, because it'd be happening regardless if
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the portal is officially open or not. Some of these coaches that are gonna
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move have staffs mostly in place that are already portaling, even if they're not
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divulging to the portal ers which school they're headed to. So there's some pre
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portal work being done by some coaches that are at a current school that we'll
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be leaving for another school. So that's happening right now. Well, yeah,
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it's called portalation. Portalation. People are portalation and yeah, so there's
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conversations. And when we had coach Spikern, it's crazy and as hoppy.
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All of the coaches that are still playing, of which there were what ninety
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plus coaches going into the week N I T NCAA C I T E I
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E I O. Right, all those guys are preparing for games but also
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doing the portal dance. It's hard, like it's hard. Well, they
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get paid for it. I'm not Yeah, yes, I don't disagree.
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There's a lot more more difficult things, but I'm just saying you better make
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really good decisions, really cool. Well, and speaking of good decisions,
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I mean Rin Baker has so far been a home run. I mean with
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the women's basketball coach, with the transition in baseball that's going to take place
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with Neil Brown, things sorting itself out, and now he has this gigantic
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hire And one of the arguments for coming to West Virginia is look at the
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tradition, look at the success you've had with the last three coaches. Now,
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so what do you want to do? You want to continue that?
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So this is big for him too, who because because I think he'll be
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here for a while. But I don't think this is his last stop.
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So this is his resume too. Well, Frankly, these guys, these
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are AD's national championships. They get some they get shine off teams winning,
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but they make their reputation off these hires. And I know that sometimes leads
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to the winning. But this is this is game day for ads. This
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is what you're in the business for. This is what you want to do.
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It's not necessarily the day to day management on a Tuesday making sure everybody's
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okay. It's these moments right here that get your juices flowing. That's what
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you live to compete for. Are these particular moments, I think you'll beat
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them? Doubt it. Trying, efforting, efforting, just like you're sure.
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He said, this is like a national championship for an AD. Well,
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you keep talking me down. This is like a national championship for an
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AD. For ren, this is a big huh. I mean this is
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probably a big one for you. Wait a minute, I mean this is
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probably this is I think this is probably a big one. What yesterday you
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were in my office and you were trying to talk me down because I said,
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I'm gonna I'm gonna try to be on top of this story. And
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you were saying, don't worry about it. Now, you're building me up
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for the fall. That's what you're doing, Brad. That's what he's doing.
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That's absolutely what he's doing. It's a good catch by you. Thank
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you. Let me just say this about that. That is one hundred percent
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absolutely what I'm doing. Noted good. Didn't And by the way, if,
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if, and when Pete Thamp will get the story before before me,
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I won't. You will never let me lift it down ever. Tried to
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line up with Pete. Pete said, who Hoppy what it doesn't matter.
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You put it out thirty seconds later and then we digest I had it doesn't
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matter. Stop worrying about it. It doesn't matter. I had that cat
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matter. But he can't get it in his head. I can't get it
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in your head. I had that conversation with him. Yes, they got
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a little loud in his office. I said, what do you get?
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Do you get a bonus? Do you get a prize? Who cares?
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Because no one will know a minute and a half later, no one knows.
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Everyone is stealing it from everyone the second that it happens. It's all
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about pride. Well that's fine. I hope you're pride against my present.
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I hope you get it. Listen, this won't gonna do. This is
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what I'm gonna do if Hoppy gets it, and it's clear that he gets
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it first, and like if he says, like if the time slugs like
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five twelve, Hoppy has a family, comes in at like five fourteen,
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we're gonna do a shirt on episode eight hundred, and it's gonna say,
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Hoppy got it. That's what we're gonna do. What Hopy got it?
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We get it first. I'd just rather just h TV. We already have
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the we already have the hashtag. Just hang a banner up in here.
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Yeah, all right, women, I got some Princeton notes. Good,
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we're getting ready to do it. Okay, we're getting ready to do We're
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gonna get we're rolling out. When they started hearing about two minutes lost in
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you ready out there? It record so I'm bewitched. It was Elizabeth Montgomery.
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Dick Yorke was the first Darren, and then it went to Dick Sergeant
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and then Agnes moorehead who who I besmirched earlier in this program. And Larry
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Tait was David White. Yes, he was the boss. He was the
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mister Mooney of Bewitched, where mister Mooney was a Darren boss. Yeah.
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Yeah. Do you remember their daughter's name, Tabitha? Tabitha? How come
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this crew is so vers very versaly. You can ask me about Chris Jans
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or we can talk Tabitha from Bewitch, whichever you'd like. Her real name,
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by the way, is Aaron Murphy? Talk about what sports Darren Defreese
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played in high school? We can talk Bewitched. Hey, hey, let
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me tell you something. Tabitha is now fifty nine years old. No,
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she's not. Yeah? Is she really? Yeah, Aaron Murphy, she
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was. She became a television host and a TV correspondent TV Land, Fox
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Reality Channel, TVGASM dot com whatever that is an e in entertainment? What
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was the name of the neighbors across the street? Always she was a paint
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and always nosy as she was what's her name? Let me see here?
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And his husband was always it wasn't It wasn't. Gladys Kravitz Yeah, was
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it. Yeah, Missus Kravitz and Missus Kravitt she was always nim noomming around.
24:19
She was not only is this show dated from a time perspective, but
24:22
there's a bit we've eliminated about three quarters of the audience as well. Tell
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you what breaking down, bewitch breaking Missus Trabot that was in the ninety eighth
24:32
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state of West Virginia and surrounding states since nineteen and eighty five. Yes,
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can I go first? I know it spreads on stats, but I just
25:22
have I have general stuff, hoppies, obvious observations. Who's just laugh at
25:26
him? You just laughed at him. You literally just laughed when you were
25:29
about family. You're obviously worried about me. I'm over here, I got
25:32
my own music, and you're trying to jump my segment. Well, I
25:33
just because you have really good specific stuff. I just have the obvious stuff,
25:37
and after you do your stuff, my stuff's going to be irrelevant.
25:41
Go ahead, kind of feel weird about it, feel good about it,
25:45
Bractice, I don't think he'll have anything that you have. Princeton, they
25:51
have Ellie Mitchell and Caitlin Chin, who've been to the tournament before, and
25:56
Mitchell, defensive player in the IVY League for the third consecutive year, averages
26:03
eleven rebounds and two and a half steals a game. They averaged seventy points
26:07
a game, second in the league after Columbia shot forty six percent from the
26:11
field, tops in the league, while holding teams to forty percent shooting,
26:15
second best in the conference. Good defensive team, top three point shooting team
26:18
in the league thirty three percent. But and Brad'll have something on this.
26:22
I'm sure they gave up one hundred and sixty seven to three pointers thirty eight
26:27
percent shooting average, which was worse than the league. Second in the league
26:32
in offensive rebounds thirteen a game, Caitlyn Chin led Princeton averaging sixteen points a
26:37
game. Five nine. Senior was the IVY League Player of the Year last
26:41
year. Elliet Mitchell, Caitlyn Chin, keep an eye on them. That's
26:45
what I got, Hoppy, You've done, real good thing done, real
26:48
good center. If you don't mind, go ahead and hit the textual healing
26:52
music because I didn't know he's going to do fifty two stats and take every
26:53
one of them, so just go to textual healing. Well, we're just
26:56
gonna give you a quick sting hanging on to now a regularly scheduled spreads on
27:02
stats with the Senator Brad Howe. Brian, if you could break down game
27:06
down for us here, dive in elite offensive rebounders here. So that's gonna
27:11
be one of the matchups to watch is West Virginia at times on the boards
27:17
right, because they don't have great size, so they're gonna have to be
27:18
a very good defensive rebounding team. Coming up on Saturday, Princeton in the
27:23
ninety seventh percentile of offensive rebounding. Twenty percent of their points come on second
27:30
chances, so they make a living off a misshot, get a rebound and
27:33
put it back in. And that's going to be important for a team that's
27:36
slower paced. That's gonna be something we watch. Can West Virginia speed them
27:40
up? Or are they able to control pace? So which team is able
27:44
to get the other to play like it wants to? It's generally hard to
27:47
slow down a team that wants to get up on you and go fast.
27:49
Can West Virginia do that? But if Princeton is missing shots, West Virginia
27:55
better get on the defensive boards and not allow Princeton, in limited opportunities to
27:59
get the those putbacks. Again, one fifth, one out of every five
28:02
points comes from a second chance point. Princeton does not turn it over very
28:07
often. Again, some of that's because lack of possessions or less possessions,
28:11
but they average just thirteen turnovers per game. Now, keep this in mind,
28:15
fourteen steals per game hoppy is what West Virginia's defense creates. Just steals.
28:21
I'm not talking total turnovers. Fourteen steals. Princeton just thirteen total turnovers.
28:26
So that's the other part to watch, and that goes along with style
28:29
of play. Is West Virginia able to make them conform to what you do
28:33
and turn it over while you're giggling? No, I think there's a great
28:36
stat in there. What I would love to be able to see is,
28:40
to your point, how many more turnovers on average does a team commit that
28:45
has played West Virginia. For example, They've played teams this year where the
28:49
team might average thirteen or fourteen, Like, what's the variance? What's the
28:52
average above that that West Virginia forces for a team? So what does Princeton's
28:59
become Because they're not going to have thirteen turnovers, right, it's going to
29:03
be more than that, you would think, unless West Virginia just completely melts
29:07
down. Yeah, what is that number? Yeah? Now, West Virginia's
29:08
opponents average twenty four turnovers, but we don't know what that baseline is in
29:12
each game. But think about that, opponents average twenty four, average twenty
29:18
four, that's how many turnovers West Virginia's create average number. That's a massive
29:23
number and obviously one of the very biggest keys to West Virginia's success this year
29:29
has been that part of it. Not only does it lead to easy runout
29:32
baskets, but it obviously eliminates or limits the other team. Hoppy to your
29:36
point here, and I do have the answer to that about teams shooting well
29:41
from three against Princeton some of its defensive philosophy by Carla Barrubi. They don't
29:45
necessarily play the pack line defense, but they do make it difficult in the
29:49
lane and at the rim what they give up. And you hear this a
29:52
lot of times from coaches. It's becoming more of a mantra. You've got
29:56
to live with something. What are you willing to live with? Princeton willing
30:00
to live with you at the three point line making shots, especially in a
30:03
neutral setting. Right you go into Carver Hawk Eye arena, Hoppy. As
30:07
someone that has shot the ball in Carver Hawky Arena, I can tell you
30:11
that at times it's difficult to shoot in there. Right, you shot there?
30:14
Huh? You sure well? Just pick up or camp? Basketball camp?
30:18
Oh yeah, basketball camp when Eldon Miller was there. No, he
30:22
was at the University of Northern Iowa. So it was first camp with George
30:25
Traveling, then with Tom Davis later at the University of Iowa. M hm,
30:29
thank you for asking. Shot there in the early days of Carver Hawk
30:32
Arena, so can. But here's the thing, hop that plays into West
30:36
Virginia's game plan. What's West Virginia like to do? Yeah, likes to
30:37
shoot three, all right, So you're gonna give us thtraes or it's gonna
30:41
be easier to make. Now you gotta make them because the other part we've
30:42
seen with West Virginia when that three point attempt rate gets too high. Right,
30:48
this was kind of the Iowa state philosophy in aims against West Virginia.
30:51
We're gonna pack it in. You're not gonna get shots in the lane.
30:53
Stand out there at three and see if you can make it. When that
30:56
three point attempt rate is up in the high fifties or sixty percent, you
31:00
better hope you're making a bunch or you get in trouble because West Virginia's game
31:03
is really about getting that attempt rate down in the forty percent range and getting
31:07
some turnovers to create easy baskets. So watch that. You should get some
31:11
threes against Princeton. What's the rate in which you're taking them and how many
31:15
are you hitting? Now? Flip over to Princeton on the offensive side.
31:18
Tony, You'll want to pay attention to this. It's an interesting stature.
31:21
Not going to hear this any where else. I'm very confident in this one.
31:22
I mean, Hoppy didn't have this. Hoppy did not have this,
31:25
and I don't think you'll hear this on another podcast. This was rather comprehensive.
31:27
Women's basketball. Princeton loves all Caps dribble jumpers. HM. Really,
31:37
they love dribble jumpers off the bounce. In fact, they're top one percent
31:40
nationally in the amount of possessions with a dribble jump shot. They're effective as
31:45
well. They're top twelve percent in making those thirty nine percent from the floor
31:51
from two when they take those, and eighty two percent of those dribble jumpers
31:55
are too, So pay special attention to them off the bounce. You're gonna
31:59
have to guard that. Some matchups that we've talked about. I mentioned the
32:01
West Virginia ability to create steals off that Princeton offense that doesn't turn it over
32:06
much. Watch that that leads you directly into points off turnovers. West Virginia
32:10
is one of the very best in the country. Twenty six points off turnovers
32:14
per game, so early on watch how that's going. Are you getting turnovers
32:17
and are those leading to early baskets. Princeton's in the ninety first percentile with
32:22
nineteen points per game off turnovers per game. So turnovers and who's converting will
32:29
tell the story of this, So you've got to keep an eye on that.
32:30
Hey, Brad, Yes, so you were asking, or Tony posited
32:36
that West Virginia turns teams over at a greater rate than they normally do.
32:42
So I just picked out one game, sure, and so it's just it's
32:45
just one game. But in the West Virginia Baylor game, I was gonna
32:47
say the same thing. Yeah, they blew it up West Virginia Baylor game.
32:52
Bay were turned the ball over twenty four times. Okay, Baywer still
32:55
won a game, I think sixty six to sixty five. Normally they turn
32:58
the ball over eighteen times. Hmm. So again that's one example, but
33:02
six more turnover, they for six more turnovers, and the number might be
33:05
high because eighteen turnovers in the games a lot. Like, if you're turning
33:08
over eighteen times, that's a lot of turnovers. Twenty four is just a
33:12
massively stupid number. For an average, which is what West Virginia creates.
33:15
You're right, but West Virginia has forced teams into stupid turnovers, Like I'll
33:21
look at their games. I'll watch their games. I'm thinking, like how
33:22
many and these are like you'd think, well, that was because it was
33:25
Niagara in November or December. That's why it's happening. But when they got
33:30
in the league play, I mean there were some league games where they had
33:34
stupid turnover numbers. No. Correct. What I'm saying to you is Baylor
33:37
averaging eighteen on the season is a high number. Oh, that is correct,
33:39
No questions right with that? Yeah, I don't think coach Malkey would
33:43
have let that happen during her watch. No, all right, one last
33:45
stat and then we're done here. Something else to watch. Stop me if
33:50
you've heard this number before, hoppy. Yeah, free throw attempt rate matters
33:53
for the West Virginia women just like it did the men. Gotta get to
33:57
the line, so the women don't get there as much as the men.
34:00
But they're in the eighty six percentile with a thirty three percent free throw rate.
34:04
So again, number of free throws attempted divided by the field goal attempts.
34:07
Princeton just twenty two percent. They're in the seventh percentile, and they're
34:13
in the zero percentile over their last five games. So Princeton likes those dribble
34:17
jumpers. They don't get to the line a ton. Can West Virginia steal
34:21
some points at the line. So we're back to officiating style matters. If
34:25
you're West Virginia, you want this thing to be let go. You want
34:29
to be able to get in there and slap and dig and maybe maybe a
34:31
couple of times you hit the arm and the ball pops. Lose with no
34:35
call for a team in Princeton that doesn't get to the line a lot,
34:38
that's something you want to watch officiating style. I think if you're West Virginia,
34:42
you want them to let them play and if they play some form of
34:46
pack line defense where it's going to be difficult to get inside. Can West
34:51
Virginia draw? Can they get the ball into the lane? Can JJ Quinnerley
34:54
get into the link? Can Jayala Hemingway get into the pink? Can they
34:58
get contact? Jordan Harrison, Jordan Harrison, Can they get contact? That's
35:01
what has to happen. But if that thing becomes a absolute wall. You're
35:07
not penetrating like we saw when West Virginia lost at Iowa State for the first
35:12
time, where you just were relegated to just chuck in threes. If that
35:16
happens, then you better be making those threes, because then you're gonna put
35:22
yourself into a problem if you're not getting to the line and you're not making
35:25
threes. You got situation, Yeah, got situation. What value do you
35:31
assign to Princeton's NCAA experience and their top players, veteran players have been there,
35:37
anything? Nothing? Yeah, I think it matters because I do think
35:42
this will be one of those venues because you're at Iowa, which right now
35:46
is the hotbed in college basketball, and you have great fans, and you
35:50
have knowledgeable fans, and there's gonna be a lot of fans in that building
35:52
that are just gonna want to watch college basketball, women's college basketball, not
35:57
just Caitlin Clark. So you're also gonna have a big, big crowd in
36:00
front of you. So your ability to handle the crowd in a big moment
36:04
in the nca Tournament, I would think that matters a little bit, but
36:06
mostly once the game begins and is a few minutes old. I don't think
36:09
that stuff matters as much because you're you have the ability at this level to
36:13
tune the crowd out and you're just playing. At that point. The easy
36:15
thing to say is, oh, they're from the IVY League, they haven't
36:20
seen anything like this. They don't. But their non conference schedule was extremely
36:23
impressive. I mean, they really played a bunch of good teams. However,
36:28
they haven't recently, right, and so if they've been having easier times
36:32
through the IVY League, then maybe West Virginia can jump them early and you
36:37
know, maybe get themselves a good start. But that is key, and
36:39
of course to the title of the program that if West Virginia were to win,
36:45
then they would have a date with Caitlin Clark and what would be Okay,
36:52
think about this a little bit, I guess it would be she would
36:55
be the single greatest player that a West Virginia women's team has ever played.
37:00
They've played played all those Yukon teams, all those Yukon teams, maya more
37:04
Tarasi superb. Right, you're saying a lot there, You're saying a lot,
37:07
but she's right there because none of them have ever been the leading scorer
37:13
in the history of women's best and you talk about a bonker's environment. And
37:15
when I say is I'm looking at Kaitlyn Clark on a state farm commercial right
37:19
now. Does she do those for free? No, there's a nice little
37:22
check that comes with Oh okay, that will be bonkers if they get the
37:27
opportunity to play them. So I think it's one of those things. If
37:29
you're West Virginia right now, you're playing with house money, both in this
37:31
first game and if you're fortunate enough to get into a second game. What
37:36
an awesome experience to be able to go again. The story in college basketball,
37:38
Hopey, you love stories. Yes, they're the storage men women doesn't
37:43
matter. That's the story, and she's the story in Kaitlyn Clark playing in
37:45
front of a sold out Carver Hawky arena. That'll be an awesome experience for
37:50
this particular team and something I think we'll draw back on at this time next
37:52
year. You know, you'll talk about some kids that have tournament experience,
37:57
this staff that has some big time tournament experience in these moment. So I'm
38:00
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38:04
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the state of West Virginia. Yeah, I've been doing pretty good though not
39:36
looking, haven't. I think it's halftime, isn't it? First game by
39:40
He's got a heck of a game. Ducane has come out and is playing.
39:43
They're aggressive, playing some great defense, physical b Why you missed a
39:46
lot of shots early is but there's early. But they're starting to close here
39:49
a little bit. Talking about house money, right, Dukaine's already no question.
39:52
Keith Damrod has already said I'm retiring at the end of this thing.
39:54
So they're just like Lucy Goosey, let's go coach Jim Sadwin doing a great
39:58
job there. Norm Nixon, sy Hugo Green bb Flintery. I look at
40:15
Kenya Hunter, Tom Pipkins. We had the Atlantic ten Tournament in Morgantown one
40:24
time, more than all the games I know that was back. Yeah,
40:30
that was great. Some people cared. Yeah, some people cared. We
40:35
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has the three guys quarter zip and once again, continuing to try to expand
41:15
on those West Virginia connections we had. I'll do this a little bit later.
41:22
I got a text on this, so one of these I'm gonna do
41:23
something here, take some pictures. What are you doing? Well? You
41:28
know, we had a visitor and I brought her to your office. Oh
41:30
yeah, yeah, And so what I'm going to do while you guys sit
41:35
there and chat, I'm gonna send these to Austin read how many games will
41:38
you? Will you watch? Every every game? I'll see part of every
41:43
game. You will. Yeah, I've got some other things going on,
41:45
so it's gonna limit my viewing a little bit, but I'll see parts of
41:47
every game. Okay, So you have how many TVs? Three? Three?
41:51
Three? Going three and plus? Maybe the iPad might have to come
41:54
out when the fourth ones on. Now you have one of your daughters as
41:58
a basketball player, which you come down and yeah, she's excited. Good.
42:00
Yeah, Oh she's into it. And the other one doesn't play but
42:04
is into it, so it'll be interested in it. Yeah, so it'll
42:06
be big on the hou household. Right, and you did a bracket I
42:09
did. Do you want to reveal I was super Chalky super chockey I mentioned
42:15
on your public affairs program. You know, one of the bracket theories is
42:20
in when you're trying to play and trying to win it if the larger the
42:22
pool you're in, the more variance you want. So you want to get
42:24
out of what everybody's doing, so you pick some more upsets. The smaller
42:28
pool you're in, you're better off to go chalky. So I've taught to
42:32
ride chalk anyway. I mean, I think Yukon's the best team in the
42:36
country. It is really hard to go back to back. I think there's
42:38
what one team in the last fifty years it's done it. That was Florida
42:40
with Billy Donovan as a coach. It's really hard to go back to back.
42:44
I think they're super good. That East is loaded. Auburn might be
42:47
the best team in the country too. They're up there. That's going to
42:50
be a matchup that each of them has to get to get by the next
42:52
Iowa States potentially lurking coming out of Omaha, which is which is one to
42:57
watch because that's in essence of home game. I State undefeated at Hilton this
43:00
year, undefeated in Kansas City which turned into Hilton South. Now they're in
43:04
Omaha, which is only three hours from campus. That's going to be a
43:07
tough environment for people to win. But here's a stat for you, hopy
43:08
ready for this. Yeah, There's never been a team that has been preseason
43:13
unranked to then get to the Final four in the same season. Iowa State
43:15
is attempting to do that. Wow, Ken they or is it a little
43:20
bit overvalued after just I mean they had their run in the tournament obviously,
43:22
I mean they finished strong in the tournament. Sometimes a team like oh and
43:25
then there's a bit of a letdown or something happens, I mean, or
43:29
they could continue to be hot. You you don't know, well I know.
43:31
And again if you're trying to look ahead, both from a West Virginia
43:35
perspective and just a Big twelve perspective, and from a fun matchup. If
43:37
Drake wins, if Drake's able to win and Iowa State wins, they will
43:42
both be squaring off, So you'll have two Iowa teams playing right on the
43:45
Iowa border and not far from both fan bases. Add In Darren de Frize,
43:50
coach of Drake, that's obviously one of the guys that's being mentioned for
43:52
the West Virginia job, spent eighteen years as a Creton assistant in Omaha.
43:57
So there's a lot of built in interest. So if you want just a
43:59
fun back basketball atmosphere, root for Drake and Iowa State to win their first
44:02
two games and they'll meet up in Omaha this weekend. That'll be fantastic.
44:07
We should go to Iowa. Brad can put us up. Probably are some
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Here we go from text line professor Vinnie here. If you remember, my
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crazy gambling philosophy involves betting against WVU this way, if they lose, at
45:07
least I win some money emotional hedge. So this is what he's doing.
45:12
Now. I figured out a way to be even more of a degenerate gambler.
45:15
I'm gonna bet on James Madison, Colorado State, Drake Fau and College
45:22
of Charleston at least for the opening round. I'll let you all read between
45:27
the lines on that rold did Charleston Maybe not need to, I haven't heard
45:36
that one. You been hearing names? Did Names everybody. Here's JMU Colorado
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State Drake Fau. You get knows yourself or them, we'll call you from
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the text line. This is really guys. Guy's trying to do his job,
45:55
trying to do my job. Scopes, Senator, wouldn't worry about what
46:00
he says to you. Woudn't worry about what amily says you do you you're
46:04
self actualized. That's what you tell me, Scope Senator and Dean. Two
46:07
observations from the recent boys basketball tournament. First, I saw Scopes and Senators.
46:15
I was making my way over to watch Ravens would play Friday night.
46:17
Unfortunately I was too far back to yell hey two out of the three guys.
46:22
Second, Hoppy was indeed diligent with his game preparation Friday night. During
46:27
the game, he looked up to see me and the basketball was coming right
46:31
at him where he was sitting. He handed it back to the official.
46:36
Saw a little banner and a laugh between hop and the referee. Quick hands.
46:39
That's one thing you're not the only one. That's one thing I enjoy
46:45
about being that close is talking to the officials. I like that, don't
46:54
you like that? Giggle inside? Like talk to him sure. Sometimes I
46:59
try to help him. Sometimes we try and tell them what they should see
47:01
on that monitor. Try to help Texter. This is from Nick the Greek.
47:09
Hi, three guys. I was in New York City for work last
47:12
week and I stopped by the world's most famous arena, Madison Square Garden.
47:15
I got a watch, got to watch some of the Big East Tournament and
47:20
some great games. It might not be apples to apples, but how would
47:22
you compare the Big Twelve Tournament to the Big East Tournament. There's always thanks
47:27
for all that you do. See them there, good picture. I would
47:29
think Nick the Greek's on the left right based on the eyebrow with I mean,
47:32
a guy in the left's got some eyebrows. I would think that's a
47:35
guy's a generalization. What do you mean? I mean Greeks and Italians,
47:39
hopy, we're all the same people. It all came I mean, you
47:42
tell me, you go to ancestor dot com. I got Greek in me.
47:46
Do you we sure? Teeny bit that's where they all came from.
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Hey, what they kept pillage in sicily in there through all the years.
47:53
I mean, it's all in there. Okay, So thank you very much,
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Nick, I've got a Nick the Greek that lives on my streak too,
48:01
very common. There used to be a Nick's Greek restaurant in Morgantown.
48:07
Yeah, thank you, exactly right in a bar Nicks. Yeah, my
48:10
Nick in my neighborhood has a stolen fig tree he brought from Greece, wraps
48:16
that thing to death in the winter and keeps it going. And I've eaten
48:20
the figs off of that. Probably move on to the next text here before
48:23
customs comes. Yeah, Nick's fine. Meanwhile, So comparing the Garden to
48:30
the Big Twelve is this, You'll never replace the buzz and the excitement of
48:37
New York City because it's New York City. But that old Big East Tournament
48:43
when West Virginia was a member, I also don't think we'll ever be able
48:45
to be replicated with the current Biggiaest Tournament. Just the schools are different.
48:51
It's just different. The Big Twelve is fantastic. I mean, they do
48:57
and it continues to grow. And if you saw when Iowa State played in
49:00
the title game last week and the power Light District there, I mean it
49:06
was like a rock concert, shoulder to shoulder and people are so there's just
49:09
it's fantastic. If you ever get a chance to go to the Big twelve,
49:14
go to the Big twelve. West Virginia is gonna win games again,
49:16
and they'll do well in the Big Twelve Tournament going forward, and it's gonna
49:21
stay in Kansas City now and until the twenty thirties, thirty one or something.
49:24
They announced that. So I strongly suggest that you go to the Big
49:29
twelve tournament because it is really really good, well until all if College Athletics
49:32
blows up and it's down in Greensboro, because the NC State group that's in
49:37
with Wake Forest and the new Big twelve wants it to be down there,
49:39
so it'll be finne. That'll be a short drive for wester Trainia fans when
49:42
that happens. Just go take over the Greensboro Coliseum. Tell those Iowa State
49:45
fans sorry, you had your day. You're not taking this over. West
49:47
Virginia fans will go to Greensboro lead the charge to win their first Big Twelve
49:52
Tournament title. West Virginia has played NCAA tournaments in Greensboro. Unpacked it coming
49:57
soon. Yeah, didn't the lights go out there one year Greensboro? Yeah?
50:00
They did. Yeah, playing Missouri. Who was the dude Anthony Peeler
50:05
had the band aid bred No, Peeler was not the band aid guy.
50:07
I don't think who was the band aid guy? Good question. Now I
50:09
got to look that up. Dang it. No, it wasn't Fennis Dembo.
50:15
So, Brad, you're implying, you're implying with Clemson's lawsuit that the
50:20
ACC is hanging by a thread and they'll be calling up the Peak twelve.
50:22
Anything. Hard to come to any conclusion other than that there are teams there,
50:25
they are scrambling there. Well, let's go. Finally we should say,
50:30
but West Virginia they know, so the a SEC is going to be
50:35
looking for a home and West Virginia's president, Gordon Gee would would welcome that.
50:40
But he could also say to North Carolina and Duke Well, except North
50:47
Carolina is the one that has more options than anybody. They're going to be
50:51
the first pick in that draft because of basketball so well and the esteemed academics.
50:55
So I would sure the Base ten will want that academic profile. North
51:00
a quality academic institution that's never had an academic scandal. So the Big Ten
51:05
only takes high integrity academic institutions. So it's not just about sports hoppy,
51:09
it's academic reputation that is driven by North Carolina. Wouldn't you like to say
51:15
those schools that, well, we'll get back to We'll see not srue.
51:17
Derek Cheeves. Derek Cheaves had the band aid Anthony P. Band aid you
51:22
talking about. He would wear a band aid, but he didn't need it
51:24
different parts of his body. He would just put a band aid on.
51:27
So every time he saw he had a band aid on. That was kind
51:31
of like Zay Shaw for the Mountaineers. He was the first dude that he
51:38
had a T shirt underneath his jersey. He was the first guy I ever
51:43
saw cut one sleeve off that was ahead of the day. So he had
51:46
one sleeve off the T shirt and one sleeve long on the T shirt.
51:52
Zaine Shaw, Chester, Pennsylvania, texter As I listened to episode five wearing
52:00
one of my two always a West Virginia Connection sweatshirts. You mentioned the book
52:06
My Losing Season if you weren't aware. In the book, Pat Conroy wrote
52:10
of going to basketball camp where none other than Jerry West was a camp counselor
52:15
Camp Wahoo. Always a Connection, Wayne Klexburg. Wayne. Not only do
52:19
we know that Hoppy has referred to that book on so many, so many
52:23
occasions, he perhaps now knows the book better than Conrad. He's passed away.
52:30
But Gary mack loved that camp Wahoo Gary McPherson, Yeah, farm Mountaineer
52:35
assistant. Does he talk about Weenie Miller in there at all? I don't
52:37
remember. I've been Oh, I gotta get you that book, Britt.
52:39
It's been a long time since I read it. Texter. This is Stephen
52:46
from the Waterfront Marriott, checking in as Tony and Brad speculated on a previous
52:52
episode. I am indeed one of the guys that talked with you too and
52:55
Jean McDonough at the hotel breakfast area before I pit football game Seawn Mott Breakfast.
53:01
If you recall, my friend case was there with me from southern California
53:06
and we met at WVU, a fine state Land Grand Institution a couple of
53:12
weeks ago. I visited him out there, and I have a West Virginia
53:14
story for you. Casey works for the UC Irvine Athletic Department and Eaters and
53:20
Eaters and had to work their last men's basketball game. So I went with
53:22
him to watch the and Eaters in action. We're at the game, a
53:25
guy yells out to me to compliment me on my WVU hat. I didn't
53:30
get a good look, but he approached me shortly after. I was floored
53:34
to see that it was a guy that is in my golf club in Wheeling.
53:39
He's friends with people who have a son on the UC Irvine team.
53:44
Of course he is, and he was out there visiting. So even at
53:47
a UC Irvine An Eaters game, there's always a West Virginia connection. And
53:53
here now is a picture of Cacy and I to jog your memory, we're
53:57
at the winery in his hometown. So how do you say this hoppy t
54:00
E M E c U l A Temecula. I don't know. I'll check.
54:07
I just probably butchered a living hell out of it. And someone who
54:08
knows what it is is laughing at me checking, probably Casey, probably Temecula
54:16
classic. M hmm. Do you ever popular Wheeling to U see Irvine route?
54:23
Texter had to go to Ohia for a few work days, but it
54:28
worked out because I was able to make it to the NCAA tournament in Dayton.
54:31
Nice, really cool experience. I was able to bring the Mountaineers to
54:35
March Madness with my old golden blue hoodie. There he is had the side
54:38
seats. See its formerly Joey and Princeton, now Joey and Athens. So
54:43
he's moved locations, but he hasn't changed his first name. Yeah Athens,
54:46
Ohio, Yeah yeah, yeah, not Greece or Georgia. Mm hm,
54:53
Texter. Adding to the current trending subtopic of pluralizing story names, perhaps the
55:00
most egregious example is when people younilaterally say sheets is that's just too many s's
55:10
happening and it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. David Kaiser, we haven't
55:15
heard that one. Yeah. Back on Monday, hold on ons that hopsy.
55:21
Third TV now engaged with another game, Thank you. Bewitched is off
55:29
Temecula, thank you Yeah, got it now Temecula, So they weren't laughing
55:36
at us. Look California. Back on Monday, after we recorded this show
55:40
in sun in Spanish, it means where the sun breaks through the mist,
55:46
Temecula. Back on Monday, after we got done recording the show, we
55:52
got a visitor to our facility and her name is Jennifer Friend. She had
55:57
written a while back when we started talking about lamb, talking about sheep,
56:02
and she stopped over and brought us some of the lamb from the farm that
56:07
they raise, And I said, can you give me some details on the
56:14
lambs that they had Braxton County And she wrote to me and said that we've
56:17
had sheep since nineteen ninety nine when she was three years old, and said
56:21
she wanted to show a sheep. And I still have descendants of my first
56:25
sheep, Pepper, in the flock today. You can start showing some of
56:29
those pictures Austin. Since then, see that bright No, I'm not looking
56:32
look over there. No, because it's something you eat. I don't want
56:36
to see it. We've also marketed most of our lambs to four H and
56:38
FFA members, who then exhibit them at market lambs at county fairs in the
56:44
state. We also sell a few as breeding sheep to go into other flocks.
56:47
The lamb you received was actually one we brought bought back from a four
56:52
racher that exhibited him at the Braxton County Fair back in August. Look,
56:57
it was beautiful sheep. After growing up in the and FFA, I feel
57:00
that it's so important to give back to the organizations that made me who I
57:04
am today. Showing and selling livestock at the fair not only helped me pay
57:07
my way through college, but I gained lifelong friends and memories. Not only
57:13
do we want to provide positive experiences to agricultural youth, we want to provide
57:17
a high quality product for the consumers who will be eating our lamb. We've
57:22
been buying lambs back at the fair as a way to ensure that our product
57:27
for us, that it's a product for us to be proud of. And
57:30
after the last few we've bought, we are certain that our lamb is mild
57:35
in flavor, tender, and a good eating experience, exactly what I was
57:39
looking for. Our farm name is Friend Sheep, Suffolx and Club Lambs.
57:45
We don't have a website, but we do have a Facebook page, So
57:50
there you go. Jennifer, thank you very much. Yeah, it was
57:53
nice meeting her, pleasant conversation. I should have asked her what tribe she
57:57
was in in the four age excuse me and four h you have tribes that
58:01
you belonged to? Oh, I didn't know that I was a Mingo.
58:05
Just definitely, thank you last one here. Our buddy Joe Mock. He's
58:14
become the step Dad Forum ountaineer Eric Stevens since it came up briefly on episode
58:21
five three. I want to give you guys a status report on our beloved
58:23
coach Stevenson. I'm afraid April, who's his wife, and I are no
58:28
longer foster parents for Reck because yes, indeed, the Spurs traded him to
58:30
the Texas Legends for a pair of G League picks. I didn't even know
58:36
such a trade was possible, but it's just one of the many oddities that
58:38
exist in the zany G League. It was for the best because the Spurs
58:44
were using him less and less development, he alluded to when he was on
58:46
your podcast. He's now played six games with the Legends, scoring zero,
58:52
seven, sixteen, seventeen, nine and seventeen. His playing time has increased
58:58
in each game. Most recent game is best, outing thirty two minutes.
59:05
He added eight assist to his seventeen markers. We'll get this starting as the
59:09
point guard in a twenty point win. I took the attached photo of Eric
59:15
watching his three pointer switch Sea coach Stevenson. There balls in the net,
59:19
yeah, follow through. Yeah, that's when they were playing Austin, his
59:22
old team. Unless the Legends happened to play in Austin the playoffs. I
59:25
guess we won't see him again this year. We're already missing him being his
59:29
adoptive parents. Eric is an exceptionally thoughtful and likable young man, and we've
59:37
loved getting to know him. Yeah, kids do grow up fast these days.
59:43
He's sort of been He's been adopted by the Mountaineer basketball team, by
59:47
Mountaineer Nation, by the folks in Texas, by us. I mean,
59:52
he's just he's like a Yeah, he's very he's very affable. He's an
59:58
interesting study in that he comes across as having a hard like tough ass outside,
1:00:05
but really he's just a great kid. But he needs to have and
1:00:07
I think he talks himself into that tough ass guy in order to compete.
1:00:12
But he's one of his As we've mentioned, this is one of the great
1:00:15
examples of the Portal's not all bad. Keep reiterating that there's some really good
1:00:19
stories that come out of the Portal. He is one. He fit perfectly
1:00:22
at this program at one estate. Yeah. Absolutely, So what will the
1:00:28
portal bear for West Virginia. It's going to be an extremely busy off season
1:00:35
these next several weeks. I mean, you're going to have you're gonna have
1:00:38
coach named, coach introduced, coach going to get players. You're going to
1:00:45
have roster movement. Before you know it, you're back on the floor.
1:00:49
You're going to get your opportunity. Okay, now we're going to start.
1:00:52
Now the newcomers come, and then you're going to go to Italy in August,
1:00:57
right, so that is that we're in the third month, so that
1:01:00
is five months away. You're going to be in Italy. You should go
1:01:04
on that trip debating it's right during the middle of they're going to last day
1:01:09
of July until like August tenth. Football's already starting. But anyway, I
1:01:12
mean maybe we'll see, we'll see anyway. So it's gonna happen really fast,
1:01:17
man. Yeah, and then we got springball. Spring ball, we
1:01:21
got Mountaineer baseball. They're up there at Oklahoma this weekend. They got a
1:01:25
three game set beat Marshall Like they stole something, they did, Yeah,
1:01:30
they did. We've got Marshall Women. This will be dated by the time
1:01:35
Marshall Women. Kim Stevens friend of the program. So yeah, a lot
1:01:38
of stuff going on. So people say it's the off seas, it's really
1:01:42
not. It's it's always season. Yeah, it is things that things change
1:01:45
there. There's a week in it might be a week in July, there's
1:01:50
nothing happening. July is quiet, and then off we go to the races.
1:01:53
All right, that'll do it for us, Thank you very much.
1:01:55
Austin Wright has been our producer. And so Monday again, a lot of
1:02:01
stuff's gonna happen between now and Monday. I got a meeting at two o'clock
1:02:05
on Monday. Great, you can stay a little bit and then you can
1:02:07
take me. Hell what we're done already. It's a good chance to encourage
1:02:12
people to follow subscribe whether you watch on YouTube or iTunes, because the schedule
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could get fluid. Here, Oh that's right, an emergency podcast. Are
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pod okay, good? Or again if a Monday, if there's a wind
1:02:52
of something happening, we might move from a Monday to a Tuesday to take
1:02:55
advantage of that news. That was a hypothetical. By the way, Well,
1:03:00
whenever it happens, you got to go right away, right regardless.
1:03:05
Well, yeah, we'll be ready. I think we've built a culture of
1:03:07
being able to go quickly. So you're saying, you're saying, it's important
1:03:12
to know. We've lived here on Sundays this past summer. I think we're
1:03:15
ready to go. We're like those firemen you met in Charleston. Yeah,
1:03:19
the alarm rings were coming down that pole. But it's important to know then
1:03:22
win the coach's name. Is that what you're saying, Yeah, don't screw
1:03:24
it up? Well, Hoppy, The question is this, who will win?
1:03:31
Happy or themil? Who cares? Hopy? Does you want the answer?
1:03:37
Hopy? Does knock it off? Who cares? All? Right?
1:03:40
Brad he's tuned out. He's in the games. He's tuned out. Yeah,
1:03:45
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