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Brewsers #361- Sturdy Sal · Brewsers

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Bruisers, a podcast about beer, coffee, booze and bruisers.
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Speaker 1: I'm yourr Shortie John, and today we talked to Sturdy Sal.
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Speaker 1: We talked about how he got into wrestling, being trained
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Speaker 1: by Cheeseburger, and so much more.
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Speaker 2: Sturdy Sal is.
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Speaker 1: Doing absolutely amazing things up in the Jersey area. And
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Speaker 1: you don't want to hear from me, You want to
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Speaker 1: hear from him. So, without further ado, here is Sturdy Soal.
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Speaker 3: I would like to welcome to the show, Sturdy Sal,
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Speaker 3: mistera or Mstretta. I'm sorry. How are you doing today, sir?
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Speaker 2: I'm great, I'm great. How about you? Everything? Everything all right?
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Speaker 3: Doing well. So I was listening kind of paintings the
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Speaker 3: word picture, where you're at and what's going on around you?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
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Speaker 4: Right now I'm in my apartment in New Jersey, hanging
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Speaker 4: out with my dog. But in the grand scheme of things,
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Speaker 4: I'm a professional wrestler from New Jersey, Sturdy Sole, trained
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Speaker 4: by world famous Cheeseburger out of the Worldwide Wrestling Dojo
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Speaker 4: in Bristol, Pennsylvania.
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Speaker 2: Part of the tag team in the state champs.
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Speaker 4: Along with David Moses and yeah, just trying to do
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Speaker 4: everything I can to get out there and make a
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Speaker 4: name for myself and make as many talents as possible,
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Speaker 4: I guess is what they would say back in the day.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, so just trying to get out there
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Speaker 4: and get my name out there, and yeah, just trying
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Speaker 4: to get as much experience and even just training at
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Speaker 4: other places as possible, and yeah, just every day getting
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Speaker 4: better a little bit.
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Speaker 2: So it's kind of where I'm at right now.
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Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, I mean that's what you do,
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Speaker 3: is get yourself out there and more people know who
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Speaker 3: you are and they book y all over with LUs Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So yeah, it's been it's been cool. I've been
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Speaker 4: able to get out to California. I did Vegas for Mania,
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Speaker 4: so yeah, I've been able to do some traveling, which
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Speaker 4: is good. Something I wanted to start doing this year
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Speaker 4: and I've been able to do it, so that's awesome.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm a ring announcer and I also do
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Speaker 3: backstage interviews and commentary, so I've been wanting to be
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Speaker 3: a part of Mania Weekend. But at the same time,
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm there all the time anyway because it
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Speaker 3: to wrestle Mania every year. But it's like, who are
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Speaker 3: we contacting? How are you getting booked? Little things like that,
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Speaker 3: And I'm sure there's other people listening to the show there,
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Speaker 3: like I would also love to be part of Mania
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Speaker 3: Weekend or a week at this point because again, for
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Speaker 3: people haven't been, there's at this point about one hundred
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Speaker 3: shows you can go to. Yeah, I mean obviously next
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Speaker 3: year we hear it's may or may not be in
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Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia. Again, there might be rumors that there might
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Speaker 3: be another huge wrestling show here in America, probably the
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Speaker 3: same weekend. Yeah, it's like, again, you can't have that
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Speaker 3: many shows happening in that span of time, just not
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Speaker 3: happen at all. So now so for those listing in
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Speaker 3: myself who would love to be part of, we'll call
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Speaker 3: it uh Big Wrestling Weekend.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Big Yeah, the week brought a week, It's
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Speaker 4: the whole thing now. But yeah, yeah, that's a great question.
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Speaker 4: So this is the first one. So it was in Philly,
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Speaker 4: like my first year wrestling, and I was on like
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Speaker 4: one show but I was like yeah, I was yeah,
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Speaker 4: I was new and it was like you know, it's
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Speaker 4: it was cold and I was new, so I wasn't
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Speaker 4: really I didn't have that much you know, going for
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Speaker 4: me yet, so this was like kind of the first
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Speaker 4: time where it was like, Okay, I'm gonna try and
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Speaker 4: reach out to some places and see what I could do.
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Speaker 4: I've worked with GCW kind of for the past year,
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Speaker 4: like helping out shows, been getting scrambles and things like that,
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Speaker 4: so that was definitely very helpful and a big motivating
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Speaker 4: factor for me to go, because you know, I felt
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Speaker 4: like if I went, you know, even if I wasn't
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Speaker 4: booked beforehand for any of those shows, there was a
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Speaker 4: chance I would get in something. And I was able
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Speaker 4: to get in the the Cluster that I'll watch my language,
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Speaker 4: the Cluster f which.
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Speaker 2: Was also Cluster Fuck. There. I was able to get
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Speaker 2: in the Clusterfuck, which was a great experience.
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Speaker 3: Those are always so fun.
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Speaker 2: Love Yeah, it was so it was so awesome.
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Speaker 4: And yeah, the other two shows that I was able
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Speaker 4: to get on was a Dark Cheek ran the worst
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Speaker 4: wrestling show of Wrestlmingia Weekend. Is when she reached out
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Speaker 4: to Dark Chic and I was like, yes, yeah, So
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Speaker 4: I worked for her in Hoodslam. That was actually the
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Speaker 4: promotion in California that I worked at in March, so
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Speaker 4: it was like fresh on her mind, and it just
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Speaker 4: so happened that Pat McAfee made a comment about five
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Speaker 4: five wrestlers, so she had this brilliant idea of doing
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Speaker 4: a five ft five forty five minute iron Man match.
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Speaker 2: So that is what I.
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Speaker 4: I just happened to be five foot five, so I
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Speaker 4: was perfect for it.
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Speaker 2: So so that was awesome.
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Speaker 4: Me and Kid Isaac had a lot of fun with that,
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Speaker 4: and that that was how I got onto that show.
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Speaker 4: And then the second the third show that was the
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Speaker 4: third and final show was on was the it's called
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Speaker 4: Second Wrestling.
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Speaker 2: They're based out of Chicago.
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Speaker 4: Actually had no prior like experience or bookings or anything
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Speaker 4: with them.
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Speaker 2: They put out a.
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Speaker 4: Tweet of like, hey, like you know, drop some people
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Speaker 4: that you want to see on our show at Mania Weekend.
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Speaker 4: Some people tagged me and and that's also a big help,
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Speaker 4: is like you know the people in this area or
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Speaker 4: like you know people that have seen me on on
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Speaker 4: like GCW and stuff, like they put my name in there.
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Speaker 2: I reached out.
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Speaker 4: They said, okay, we'll take a look at some of
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Speaker 4: your stuff and get back to you, and they put
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Speaker 4: me in a match that was called that we've never booked.
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Speaker 2: You before Scramble, so I got to do that and
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Speaker 2: that was that was awesome.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean honestly, it's like for me, it
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Speaker 4: wasn't even about like I mean, the matches were great,
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Speaker 4: and it was like if I didn't get anything else
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Speaker 4: besides because really the only one that I had guaranteed
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Speaker 4: was the was the to the Shekh and the second wrestling,
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Speaker 4: and the Sheep came really late on, so it was
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Speaker 4: like the second wrestling for a while, and I already
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Speaker 4: knew I was going, but like just being in that
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Speaker 4: area where like everyone in wrestling is in the same place, like,
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Speaker 4: you know, I met so many cool people and you know,
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Speaker 4: got got to talk to so many like legends and
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Speaker 4: you know, people that have been doing this and are
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Speaker 4: a lot smarter than I am and just be.
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Speaker 2: Able to pick their brains and things like that.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, it was it was that, you know, I think,
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Speaker 4: you know, that was kind of the takeaway like for
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Speaker 4: me and especially like I think newer people in the business,
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Speaker 4: like don't be afraid to just go and you know,
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Speaker 4: help out at a show like or help out at
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Speaker 4: the collective stuff and you know, help help with whatever,
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Speaker 4: help with security and and uh you know, and then
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Speaker 4: who knows, you might get thrown in something and if not,
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Speaker 4: like you're gonna be around like that locker room is great,
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Speaker 4: and you know there's so many great people just like
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Speaker 4: walking around that you could like pick the brains and
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Speaker 4: and learn from them. So you know, I think that
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Speaker 4: that's kind of the the message I would say, Like,
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Speaker 4: you know, I was really nervous about like what you
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Speaker 4: were saying, like going out there and like I'm not
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Speaker 4: gonna find anything, but you know, I got I got
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Speaker 4: lucky with a couple of things and then you know,
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Speaker 4: stuff just kind of fell into place and it was
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Speaker 4: a really fun week overall. I was there from Tuesday
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Speaker 4: to Sunday, so yeah, yeah, it was it was a
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Speaker 4: good time. And uh yeah, so yeah, I would say
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Speaker 4: just don't be afraid too, you know, if it's in
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Speaker 4: budgetary capabilities like yeah, very expensive, yes, yes, so you
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Speaker 4: know what I mean, that's a whole different ball game. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: But like if it's like if it's not too far
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Speaker 4: from you, maybe it's a short flight, like go go
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Speaker 4: out there and go out there for a couple of
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Speaker 4: days and see what happens, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 4: If if that's something you're able to do, I think
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Speaker 4: that there's that's always beneficial.
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Speaker 3: So who are some of the people that really kind
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Speaker 3: of you were able to pick their brain? And like
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Speaker 3: really you you picked up some gems from.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think you know some of the people
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Speaker 4: that you know, I've kind of been able I've been
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Speaker 4: lucky to like, yeah, be.
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Speaker 2: Able to pick their brains. Is like you know, uh, kJ.
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Speaker 4: Orso, who's atw I go to a soul like he's
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Speaker 4: been been great, someone that's helped me a lot.
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Speaker 2: And then Speedball Mike Bailey is another one.
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Speaker 4: Like besides like obviously my trainer, like cheese and things
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Speaker 4: like that, but like I wrestled Speedball in like my
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Speaker 4: thirtieth match and ever since then, yeah, ever since then,
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Speaker 4: he's just been like a book of knowledge for me,
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Speaker 4: Like whenever I have whenever I want to talk to
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Speaker 4: him about something, like he's always even even after he
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Speaker 4: got sign he's always been down to, you know, help
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Speaker 4: out and you know, give me some advice on some stuff.
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Speaker 4: So he's another guy that you know, able to able
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Speaker 4: to pick his brain. Was pretty cool. Joey Joey Janella
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Speaker 4: like just has a great mind. For wrestling, So that
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Speaker 4: that's another person that you know, I was able to.
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Speaker 2: Pick his brain. Sandman's last match.
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Speaker 4: Was on a GCW show, so just yeah, you know
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Speaker 4: that was more just like you know, talking to him
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Speaker 4: and you know, hearing some stories.
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Speaker 2: But that was that was great, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of people there that like, you know,
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Speaker 4: and you know, I was like talking with someone that
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Speaker 4: has a similar kind of character to me that is
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Speaker 4: in my area that I never really met before, Jared Diaz,
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Speaker 4: And that was someone that I was able to connect
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Speaker 4: with and you know, like like you know, we still
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Speaker 4: talk about like ideas that we got and things like
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Speaker 4: that with each other, you know, a couple of like
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Speaker 4: a month past it now, so you know, you never know, it.
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Speaker 2: Could be could be like the big the Big Fish.
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Speaker 4: Or you know, someone someone like uh, you know that
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Speaker 4: has kind of similar ideas to you that you can
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Speaker 4: kind of like bounce stuff off each other.
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Speaker 3: So that's amazing. I love that. I love that that
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Speaker 3: you were able to not only go out and experience
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Speaker 3: your first WRESTLEMINGI a weekend or week, but also you
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Speaker 3: were able to you know, connected with so many different
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Speaker 3: people that you probably never thought you were going.
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Speaker 4: To Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was awesome, and yeah, I'm
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Speaker 4: just like I was. I was definitely tired and I'm
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Speaker 4: like ready to go home.
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Speaker 2: But it was awesome.
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Speaker 4: I'm very grateful for that experience, and you know, being
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Speaker 4: able to do that. And you know, there's so many
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Speaker 4: people there that like there's so there's gonna be something.
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Speaker 4: There's gonna be some eyes that have never seen you
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Speaker 4: before that are going to see you. So that's always
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Speaker 4: a good thing. And if you can get them on
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Speaker 4: your side and you know, win them over and.
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Speaker 2: It keeps keeps the momentum going.
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Speaker 5: So exactly.
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Speaker 3: Well, let's go all the way back in time. What
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Speaker 3: is your earliest memory of for wrestling.
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Speaker 2: I was.
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Speaker 4: The first match I remember watching. It was like a
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Speaker 4: random SmackDown or something, and it was, uh, it was
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Speaker 4: actually like Big Daddy V and Mark Henry in a
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Speaker 4: handcap match versus the Undertaker, and I was like this
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Speaker 4: is nuts, Like this is crazy, and that as the
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Speaker 4: first match I ever remember watching. It was like six
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Speaker 4: o seven or something like that. Like I don't remember
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Speaker 4: exactly what it was, but I just remember that match vividly. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: that's kind of the first like four ay, and I
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Speaker 4: was like, well, this is awesome. As like a six
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Speaker 4: or seven year old, obviously it's like this is crazy.
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Speaker 4: So seah, I would say that that's probably the first
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Speaker 4: memory I have, and then you know, I think it
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Speaker 4: was on the build up to WrestleMania, like maybe twenty three.
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Speaker 4: I think it was twenty three, So that's kind of
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Speaker 4: the first Mania I remember, like actually watching and getting
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Speaker 4: to getting to see so yeah, yeah, it.
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Speaker 2: Was really cool.
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Speaker 3: Twenty three was I remember?
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Speaker 2: No, was it Detroit?
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
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Speaker 4: Because it was Taker, Batista and Sina and Orton maybe
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Speaker 4: Orsina and Triple I don't remember who seen was Triple
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Speaker 4: h Yeah it was it was like a rotator, yeah,
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Speaker 4: because twenty five was Orton.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was Triple yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty Yeah. Twenty five was my first wrestling.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I just remember that, like yeah, and
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Speaker 4: I don't remember much from like else, but I remember
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Speaker 4: that match. I remember Undertaker doing the Hell's Gate for
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Speaker 4: the first time and like the daty leading out of
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Speaker 4: his mouth and I'm like, oh.
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Speaker 2: My god, what's going on?
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Speaker 4: Like that kind of stuff. Like the Undertaker was like
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Speaker 4: my favorite when I was a kid. So yeah, I
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Speaker 4: just remember all that stuff and I'm like, this is nuts.
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Speaker 2: What am I watching? And my dad. My dad's probably
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Speaker 2: having a riot in the back. So that's that's what.
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Speaker 3: So when did you realize that there was other wrestling
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Speaker 3: out there? Well, I guess at that period, so six
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Speaker 3: there was, Yeah, Ring of Honor had started, but I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 3: your area, you may have figured it out, but again
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Speaker 3: I don't know. You would have had to not when
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Speaker 3: you were a kid.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, same thing with TNA because well, I guess TNA
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Speaker 3: was somewhat on TV, but.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was on Spike, and I did actually watch
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Speaker 4: a lot of TNA, Like I just remember like hearing
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Speaker 4: about Kurt Angle because I never really saw Kurdan angle
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Speaker 4: in w w A, right, All the kurd Angle that
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Speaker 4: I watched growing up was all TNA.
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Speaker 3: Which crazy because he had more matches in TNA they didn't.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Sting and Booker t was more in in
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Speaker 4: TNA than he was in w WE, like I was
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Speaker 4: at the end of King Booker stuff, and then he
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Speaker 4: moved to w Yeah, so like all those guys were
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Speaker 4: all in TNA, and I like heard about him, like
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Speaker 4: do like the video.
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Speaker 2: Games and things like that, and like I had like.
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Speaker 4: The big w W encyclopedias like flip through and see
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Speaker 4: all these guys or whatever, and uh, yes, I love TNA,
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Speaker 4: and like AJ was like my favorite when I was
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Speaker 4: like young. I think it was because he had the
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Speaker 4: cool music or whatever in the hood. It sparklers and ever.
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Speaker 4: But you know, and then I got older and in
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Speaker 4: whatever he debuted, I think it was twenty sixteen or
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Speaker 4: twenty seventeen when he dave me w W in the Rumble, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, all right, Like maybe I'll turn
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Speaker 4: it on to see what's going on.
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Speaker 2: And I kind of got back into WWE.
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Speaker 4: And then they started talking about AJ stuff in like
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Speaker 4: New Japan and Vanna and that's kind of when I
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Speaker 4: branched out to that sort of stuff. And you know,
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Speaker 4: I kind of went back into like early Ring of
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Speaker 4: Honor days where it's like Nigel Danielson Homicides a big
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Speaker 4: inspiration for me, like aries Punk Joe, like all those
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Speaker 4: guys like that in that era where you know, they
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Speaker 4: were just going crazy and like they would just put
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Speaker 4: out bangers of like thirty forty minutes, and you know,
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Speaker 4: that's kind of when I found that that indie kind
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Speaker 4: of style of wrestling.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, this is sick.
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Speaker 4: And you know, then I watched New Japan and I'm like,
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Speaker 4: this is awesome.
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Speaker 2: Like these guys are going nuts.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I would say in like twenty sixteen when
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Speaker 4: AJ came back and they kind of.
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Speaker 2: They would like talk, they were like.
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Speaker 4: Talk about how oh him and Knockmore I had a
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Speaker 4: match in New Japan or whatever, and I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 4: I got to go watch that, and you know, it's
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Speaker 4: one of the best matches.
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Speaker 5: I've ever watched.
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Speaker 4: So it's like, yeah, yeah, that's kind of what what
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Speaker 4: got me into the the other space outside of WWE,
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Speaker 4: which is what I'm thankful for too, because I think
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Speaker 4: that really uh kind of you know, inspired me to
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Speaker 4: pursue this as well.
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Speaker 2: Like you know, like seeing dudes like you know.
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Speaker 4: Like not built like Batista and Mark Henry and you
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Speaker 4: know those guys that are a triple Ah, Randy Orton
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Speaker 4: or like you know those those guys like but seeing
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Speaker 4: guys like that be able to do that and make
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Speaker 4: a living off of it, and you know some of
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Speaker 4: those guys like get on like get contracts like Kevin
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Speaker 4: Owens and Sammy's Ain and Adam Cole and all those guys,
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Speaker 4: like you know, they they they worked it out on
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Speaker 4: the indies and made it made it.
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Speaker 2: To the big time.
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Speaker 4: So you know, that's that kind of was like my
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Speaker 4: inspiration to kind of push me to get to the
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Speaker 4: all right, maybe I could do this and you know,
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Speaker 4: see where it takes me.
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Speaker 5: I love that.
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Speaker 3: What was your first live show?
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Speaker 2: First live show?
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Speaker 4: I think it was like the might have been the
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Speaker 4: it's like the first or second ever, like Helen a
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Speaker 4: Cell pay per view they did, because they did it
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Speaker 4: in Newark, nice, New Jersey. Yeah, I don't even remember
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Speaker 4: who was on the show, but I remember going to
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Speaker 4: it and it was nuts.
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Speaker 2: I remember that I was.
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Speaker 4: Sitting up pretty high, but I remember it was nuts.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's the first show. I think that.
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Speaker 4: That was really the only show I went to as
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Speaker 4: a kid. And then when Mania the second time was
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Speaker 4: in Jersey, I went to that, which was a long day,
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Speaker 4: and then I didn't know any like I wasn't really
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Speaker 4: like and indie stuff, and I wasn't a wrestler yet,
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Speaker 4: so I just kind of went to Mania and it
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Speaker 4: was that was the last day.
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Speaker 2: It was like one day, so it was like and
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Speaker 2: a half hour day. It was raining, Yeah, yeah, it
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Speaker 2: was raining. Yeah, So I mean I enjoyed it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, see the KOFE stuff that was awesome, so you know,
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Speaker 4: it was really cool.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, that that those.
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Speaker 4: Are really the only two shows I've been to and
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Speaker 4: I can't remember one of them and the other one
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Speaker 4: I'll never forget. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I also will never forget that because again, it was
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Speaker 3: the last one before COVID. Yeah, the last one that
17:35
Speaker 3: it was one day and it was a long day.
17:38
Speaker 3: I mean technically it was two days considering it, it
17:40
Speaker 3: did go into the next day, but it was yeah,
17:43
Speaker 3: it was technically.
17:44
Speaker 4: Yeah.
17:44
Speaker 2: The Triple Threat probably went the next day.
17:46
Speaker 4: I remember like Gulac and Buddy Murphy on it like
17:50
Speaker 4: four o'clock and I'm like, oh God, like this we're
17:54
Speaker 4: starting this early. And it was an awesome match, but
17:56
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's gonna be a long day. My Dad's
17:58
Speaker 4: sitting up there with me and my brother and I'm like,
18:00
Speaker 4: I don't know, my dad's made out made out for this,
18:02
Speaker 4: like he was done by the end of it.
18:06
Speaker 3: Well, so how did you end up finding the wrestling dojo?
18:10
Speaker 2: Uh?
18:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, So there is a good amount of like grade
18:14
Speaker 4: schools in this like northeast.
18:17
Speaker 2: Mid Atlantic area.
18:20
Speaker 4: So you know, I was just like watching Ring of
18:23
Speaker 4: Honor at the time, and I knew who Cheese Cheeseburger was.
18:27
Speaker 2: So that was a big help of someone that was
18:28
Speaker 2: like on TV and and knows how to do that.
18:33
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's crazy, like at that point, the
18:36
Speaker 4: only thing Cheese knew was like, I mean, he did
18:38
Speaker 4: a little bit of indies, but he was under contract,
18:40
Speaker 4: Like he just knew about TV wrestling. So you know,
18:45
Speaker 4: being able to you know, do that and you know,
18:48
Speaker 4: having that name recondition helped. I went to go watch
18:52
Speaker 4: a class and just seeing how like good of a
18:55
Speaker 4: teacher he was, and like how individualistic I guess is
18:59
Speaker 4: the word, or like, you know, how how he kind
19:01
Speaker 4: of coached every single person if like you know, they
19:04
Speaker 4: did a drill, like you know, they did a drill wrong,
19:07
Speaker 4: maybe not wrong, or like you know, something that he
19:09
Speaker 4: could see that he could tweak and maybe try something
19:12
Speaker 4: else out, and he just like you know, he focused
19:14
Speaker 4: pretty he focused on everyone, and it felt like that
19:18
Speaker 4: and you know I didn't just feel like you were
19:20
Speaker 4: kind of run through an assembly line of students, because
19:24
Speaker 4: you know, it's not like we don't have that many
19:27
Speaker 4: At that time, we didn't have that many students. I mean,
19:29
Speaker 4: we're still probably probably on like the normal end now,
19:33
Speaker 4: but I felt like it was a lot lower back then,
19:36
Speaker 4: especially after COVID. So yeah, yeah, I think just being
19:41
Speaker 4: able to get that like one on one, like individual
19:45
Speaker 4: coaching from him and seeing that because you let you
19:47
Speaker 4: sit in the class before you sign up, seeing that
19:50
Speaker 4: that was kind of like all right, yeah, like I
19:51
Speaker 4: could see myself learning here. And the way he coached too.
19:54
Speaker 4: He's not a big, like raw rah like do this
19:57
Speaker 4: right or else.
19:59
Speaker 2: Guy.
19:59
Speaker 4: He's the nicest dude in the world, and it's ridiculous.
20:02
Speaker 4: But you know, I kind of like, as my background
20:04
Speaker 4: is like football, my dad was a football coach, my
20:07
Speaker 4: whole wife and I played in college at D three,
20:11
Speaker 4: so you know, I've kind of already had that raw,
20:14
Speaker 4: raw coaching kind of mentality and it's worked, but you know,
20:18
Speaker 4: you rather not have to do it. I think I
20:20
Speaker 4: could be coached in a nicer way, and yeah, you
20:22
Speaker 4: know I I am so yeah, it was. It was
20:27
Speaker 4: a good change of pace for me after college for sure,
20:30
Speaker 4: to get the not screaming in my face coaching. But yeah,
20:34
Speaker 4: That's kind of how I found it, just like looking
20:36
Speaker 4: at places and then you know, just recognizing Cheese's name
20:40
Speaker 4: when it was popped up.
20:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I imagine like he is such a good
20:44
Speaker 3: teacher because he has he's really had to, you know,
20:49
Speaker 3: scratch and claw his way to where he is now
20:51
Speaker 3: because again of the size, and again that's how he
20:53
Speaker 3: got his name because he was so small. But yeah,
20:57
Speaker 3: he's a phenomenal wrestler. For those who haven't seen She's
21:00
Speaker 3: burg wrestled, look up Cheezburger online and please do it
21:03
Speaker 3: right now, pause this, come back to it, because Cheezburger
21:05
Speaker 3: is absolutely fantastic.
21:07
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, he is great, and he's just he's so
21:10
Speaker 4: you know, he's done Japan, he's done Mexico. He loves
21:15
Speaker 4: technical wrestling. Like you know, we kind of go through
21:18
Speaker 4: like like he he has like four flags and like
21:21
Speaker 4: the turnbuckles of the dojo.
21:25
Speaker 2: Ring.
21:25
Speaker 4: It's like the US flag of the US style, You'll
21:28
Speaker 4: get the Japanese style because he's done that, Luca Mexico flag,
21:32
Speaker 4: and the British flag like world a Sports technical wrestling.
21:35
Speaker 4: So it's like we get to cover all of that
21:37
Speaker 4: and it's awesome. You know what I mean, I feel
21:40
Speaker 4: like we're all so well rounded, and you know, I
21:44
Speaker 4: think that's a testament to him and who he is
21:45
Speaker 4: as a wrestler, you know what I mean. He's so
21:47
Speaker 4: well rounded in what he does that, you know, and
21:51
Speaker 4: he's able to pass it on to us so effectively. UK,
21:54
Speaker 4: It's a testament to him and like, you know, his
21:56
Speaker 4: ability as a wrestler and as a coach for sure.
22:00
Speaker 3: What do you think you've learned the most training with Cheeseburger?
22:05
Speaker 4: I think, you know what, I learned the most from Cheese.
22:08
Speaker 4: I mean, I like I was day one from there.
22:11
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people that have come in from
22:13
Speaker 4: other schools and started training there. So I've pretty much
22:15
Speaker 4: learned all the basics from Cheese. But like the thing
22:18
Speaker 4: that I think I take away the most is kind
22:20
Speaker 4: of just like the way he kind of thinks about
22:25
Speaker 4: like wrestling and putting together a match and and that
22:30
Speaker 4: sort of thing. I think, you know, I've kind of
22:32
Speaker 4: adopted that style as well. Like I've taken kind of
22:36
Speaker 4: things from him and things from other people that I've
22:39
Speaker 4: learned from that.
22:40
Speaker 2: Like that's kind of like.
22:43
Speaker 4: How to structure things in a way that like makes
22:47
Speaker 4: sense and makes the audience invested into whatever is happening.
22:52
Speaker 4: That's the most important thing, you know what I mean.
22:53
Speaker 4: And I think that that has been a thing. And
22:57
Speaker 4: I think patience too, I think another thing which she's like,
23:00
Speaker 4: you know, I was always worried, like I don't really
23:02
Speaker 4: have a character, Like I didn't for a while, you
23:05
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And I was just like a
23:07
Speaker 4: good wrestler that was just you know, good at wrestling
23:10
Speaker 4: and I yelled sturdy all the time and you know,
23:13
Speaker 4: did that and it was fun and it was good.
23:15
Speaker 4: But you know, he would always say, like, you know,
23:18
Speaker 4: it'll come, like you'll there'll be something that clicks, and like,
23:20
Speaker 4: you know, he kind of always kept me on that path.
23:23
Speaker 2: Cheese is always the one.
23:23
Speaker 4: That like talked me off the ledge of like if
23:25
Speaker 4: I'm kind of going through stuff in my mind, like
23:27
Speaker 4: you know, I'm like, oh, what's going on. He's like
23:30
Speaker 4: a relaxed relaxed so you know with that stuff, like
23:33
Speaker 4: he was just you know, he would always tell me
23:35
Speaker 4: like it would come. And then the State champs stuff comes,
23:38
Speaker 4: I start doing stuff with the football and you know,
23:41
Speaker 4: stuff starts rolling like that, like it happened so fast.
23:44
Speaker 2: So I think you know, just being patient.
23:46
Speaker 4: And also I think just being a good person in
23:49
Speaker 4: wrestling is like, you know, you'd be surprised how many
23:53
Speaker 4: people like would just give you, like I mean not
23:55
Speaker 4: give you, but like like I guess give you an
23:58
Speaker 4: opportunity or like just give you a chance answer just
24:00
Speaker 4: because like you know, you're a good person and a
24:02
Speaker 4: nice person and you know, look out for people, you know,
24:06
Speaker 4: So I think you know that that's also a thing,
24:08
Speaker 4: just like you know, being able to treat everyone, like
24:12
Speaker 4: treat everyone's respect, and how to conduct yourself in locker
24:15
Speaker 4: rooms and things like that, and how to talk to promoters.
24:17
Speaker 2: Like She's has been very influential for that with me, which.
24:20
Speaker 4: Is also a great thing because it's like teaches you
24:22
Speaker 4: all the in ring stuff, but then there's a lot
24:24
Speaker 4: of stuff out of the ring that you have to
24:26
Speaker 4: learn kind of you know, on the fly, how to
24:28
Speaker 4: get booked, how to talk to a promoter, how to
24:31
Speaker 4: you know, ask for your your rate or whatever, how
24:34
Speaker 4: to like you know, make a how to you know,
24:37
Speaker 4: what to put out on social media's and things like that,
24:39
Speaker 4: and Jesus a kind of he always kind of does
24:42
Speaker 4: a crash course on that as well, So Yeah. That
24:45
Speaker 4: that's something that he also you know, brings and is
24:49
Speaker 4: something that's very helpful for all of us, likes as
24:52
Speaker 4: new wrestlers coming in right.
24:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, I imagine as a performer. I mean, you obviously
24:57
Speaker 3: can get in your head so much about like oh
25:00
Speaker 3: I'm messing this up, or oh people aren't enjoying this,
25:03
Speaker 3: or oh I do I really need to keep doing this?
25:05
Speaker 3: Or should I try doing this? But you definitely need
25:08
Speaker 3: to take yourself out of it and be like no,
25:11
Speaker 3: everything's fine, Like you're just again getting in your head
25:14
Speaker 3: and you're spitting in the circle that you don't need to.
25:17
Speaker 3: So it's good there is somebody to be like, Nope,
25:19
Speaker 3: calm down, just you're gonna be fine.
25:21
Speaker 2: Just take your yea yep.
25:23
Speaker 3: Yeah.
25:24
Speaker 4: And he's been through it all, you know what I mean, Like,
25:25
Speaker 4: you know, he was on TV for however long and
25:29
Speaker 4: then one day they're like, yeah, Ring of Honor's not
25:31
Speaker 4: a thing anymore, and then it's like, oh damn, like
25:33
Speaker 4: I gotta go make my own way. And he did that, like,
25:35
Speaker 4: you know, without missing the step. So you know, he's
25:38
Speaker 4: kind of been through that kind of stuff where it's
25:41
Speaker 4: like you don't know what's gonna happen, and you know
25:43
Speaker 4: you're kind of in your head about it, but you
25:44
Speaker 4: know he's done it and been there and adapted, and
25:48
Speaker 4: you know it's it's a good person to be able
25:50
Speaker 4: to have for sure. Yeah.
25:51
Speaker 3: The way they closed Ring of Honor, I've heard it.
25:53
Speaker 3: It is fucked Like I've just was there no better
25:57
Speaker 3: way to do that?
25:57
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I don't know.
25:59
Speaker 3: Like you couldn't figure out anything else to do during
26:01
Speaker 3: COVID Yeah, yeah, that made no sense to me.
26:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I mean, yeah, it's crazy, but you know, stuff,
26:09
Speaker 4: stuff goes down like that, especially in this I mean
26:12
Speaker 4: there's crazy stuff that happens every day in wrestling.
26:15
Speaker 2: I feel like, so this is true.
26:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, well so, I mean you've been wrestling since twenty
26:22
Speaker 3: twenty three, Like you said, what are some things that
26:24
Speaker 3: obviously you still want to be on your bucket list
26:28
Speaker 3: of you know, stuff you want accomplish, whether it be
26:30
Speaker 3: this year, five years, ten years, What are some things
26:33
Speaker 3: on your bucket list?
26:34
Speaker 2: Yeah?
26:36
Speaker 4: So I think, you know, I definitely want to, you know,
26:39
Speaker 4: go international. I think, you know, I think I would
26:43
Speaker 4: love to do like all the big stops, Like I
26:46
Speaker 4: would love to do a europe thing I'd love to
26:48
Speaker 4: do a Japan thing. They'll do a Mexico thing, you know,
26:53
Speaker 4: kind of just do that and see see the world.
26:55
Speaker 4: I mean, I've never been to Japan, been in Mexico,
27:00
Speaker 4: but like the beaches and you know, like Mexico City
27:02
Speaker 4: or anything like that.
27:04
Speaker 2: I've been in Italy, but you know.
27:05
Speaker 4: I would love to go see like the rest of
27:07
Speaker 4: Europe things like that, and you know, be able to
27:08
Speaker 4: perform and even just across the country like I would
27:13
Speaker 4: love to somehow. You know this, I stole this from
27:15
Speaker 4: Cheese actually, like just wrestle in all fifty states if
27:18
Speaker 4: that's possible. I think that would be something that's cool,
27:21
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I think that's something
27:23
Speaker 4: for sure that that are our goals of mine. And yeah,
27:31
Speaker 4: like I think just keep pushing, like you know what
27:34
Speaker 4: I mean, Like I think that's the big thing for me,
27:36
Speaker 4: is like keep keep the foot on the gas and
27:39
Speaker 4: keep you know, don't let up and try to just
27:41
Speaker 4: keep keep building whatever's whatever's working, and keep going with that.
27:47
Speaker 5: Yeah.
27:48
Speaker 3: I think Tommy Dreamer just a couple of years ago
27:51
Speaker 3: was able to wrestle in Alaska, which I think was
27:52
Speaker 3: the last one on his on his fifty states. I
27:55
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, wrestling since like the early nineties of
27:58
Speaker 3: late eighties, that's crazy.
27:59
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
28:00
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so yeah, she's actually just got back from Alaska.
28:03
Speaker 2: He did a show out there, but yeah, like that.
28:04
Speaker 5: Would be one last weekend.
28:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, last weekend he was in Alaska.
28:08
Speaker 3: I'm not saying there's a bunch of shows in Alaska.
28:11
Speaker 3: Nothing against Alaska. Yeah, my friend was actually at a
28:14
Speaker 3: show in Alaska and she had never been to a
28:15
Speaker 3: show before, and she talked to me, that may be
28:19
Speaker 3: the show. That's funny.
28:20
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's crazy. So I'm I know, like
28:25
Speaker 4: there's like one bigger promotion out there. I don't know
28:28
Speaker 4: how it works, but you know I would love to
28:29
Speaker 4: do that for sure.
28:30
Speaker 2: I would love to go out there.
28:32
Speaker 3: Send me the poster. I was like, I need to
28:33
Speaker 3: get booked out there.
28:34
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. So it's like, yeah, that's something I think
28:37
Speaker 4: that would just be cool. You know, say I did that,
28:40
Speaker 4: and you know that means you went off with these states,
28:42
Speaker 4: which is also cool.
28:43
Speaker 3: So you know, it's so crazy. It's all the way
28:46
Speaker 3: up there. You have to go through Canada, o, Canada
28:49
Speaker 3: just to hit it in the New five.
28:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, and sometimes depending where you're going, Yeah, jump on
28:53
Speaker 4: a little plane to get somewhere else in Alaska, you
28:55
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
28:56
Speaker 2: So yeah, but yeah, I think that would be awesome.
28:59
Speaker 5: Yeah.
29:00
Speaker 3: Well so, I mean when you found your character, you
29:03
Speaker 3: kind of just lean back on, you know, what your
29:05
Speaker 3: upbringing was, Like you said, with your dad being a
29:07
Speaker 3: football coach and then you playing football. What do you
29:11
Speaker 3: kind of are there? Other because the character has been done,
29:14
Speaker 3: but not obviously until level you're doing it, what are
29:16
Speaker 3: some inspirations that you've been kind of taking to implement
29:20
Speaker 3: from your locker room history and your grid iron history
29:24
Speaker 3: that you're kind of putting in the ring now.
29:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question.
29:28
Speaker 4: I think a lot of our main inspiration was like
29:33
Speaker 4: trying to me and David and I. So it started
29:37
Speaker 4: as like the tag team, and that's kind of when
29:40
Speaker 4: we started doing it, and I was like, I'm just
29:42
Speaker 4: gonna do it singles also because it makes sense, but obviously, Yeah,
29:46
Speaker 4: I think for us, it was us trying to get
29:51
Speaker 4: onto Power Pro Lucca for the first.
29:52
Speaker 2: Show, and you know, we're like, we want to get
29:55
Speaker 2: on this.
29:55
Speaker 4: This is awesome, and you know it's got a deep history,
30:00
Speaker 4: like you know, people from Jakara and things like that,
30:02
Speaker 4: and you know the throwbacks were you know awesome and
30:06
Speaker 4: you know, mister touchdown himself, you know, so I think
30:10
Speaker 4: that that's a big that's.
30:11
Speaker 2: A big one.
30:14
Speaker 4: And then honestly, I think like a lot of our
30:17
Speaker 4: inspiration is just comes from stuff that's like we see
30:20
Speaker 4: in in the sports world that we're like, yeah, like
30:23
Speaker 4: we'll just bring this into wrestling, Like it's it's not
30:26
Speaker 4: too hard, especially with our promos and stuff like we
30:30
Speaker 4: just did one that we'll do like we're doing like
30:33
Speaker 4: a locker room like scrum where like the phones are
30:35
Speaker 4: in our face and we're answer questions and things like that.
30:38
Speaker 4: So there's things like that that's like just being able
30:42
Speaker 4: to you know, take from that and stuff that we
30:45
Speaker 4: see and stuff that we've done and be able to
30:48
Speaker 4: use it just in a different you know, outlet of
30:52
Speaker 4: professional wrestling, and you know, it's it's fun for us,
30:55
Speaker 4: and it's like, you know, we we.
30:57
Speaker 2: Love doing it.
30:59
Speaker 4: You know, we get to to be the dumb jocks
31:01
Speaker 4: and you know, be a little bit of a you
31:05
Speaker 4: know it be idiots.
31:07
Speaker 2: So I mean, and that's what we love to do.
31:09
Speaker 2: It's fun for us.
31:10
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it just helps so much having
31:14
Speaker 4: that and kind of being I guess kind of an
31:18
Speaker 4: extension of yourself.
31:20
Speaker 2: I'm not an idiot, but you.
31:21
Speaker 4: Know what I mean, but like, but you know, an
31:24
Speaker 4: extension of yourself of like, yeah, this is something I know,
31:28
Speaker 4: and this is something that like I'm passionate about, so
31:32
Speaker 4: you know, let's just make a way to make it
31:34
Speaker 4: wrestling a fide I guess, like you know, put it
31:37
Speaker 4: into put it into wrestling, And that's kind of what
31:39
Speaker 4: we've done. And then we just think of stuff, think
31:43
Speaker 4: of dumb moves to do, like the push push where
31:45
Speaker 4: it's just like they're just gonna do a shoulder tackle
31:47
Speaker 4: on the corner, but he's gonna push me. Or it's
31:49
Speaker 4: like the the field goal thing that we do. It's like, yeah,
31:53
Speaker 4: these are all great. It's like it's super easy, and oh,
31:57
Speaker 4: he's gonna throw the ball to him and he's gonna
31:59
Speaker 4: catch it and I'm gonna spear them. Just like things
32:01
Speaker 4: like that that we think of. That's just like that
32:03
Speaker 4: just comes to us randomly, and it's like sometimes we'll
32:06
Speaker 4: get it, but it's just because we have that background
32:09
Speaker 4: and you know, stuff that we know, Oh, look at
32:11
Speaker 4: what's up, buddy.
32:14
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, there's so many little things, like little intricacies
32:19
Speaker 3: that everybody sees when it comes to watching football on
32:22
Speaker 3: Sundays or almost every day this week, like they just
32:26
Speaker 3: haven't been implemented in wrestling, which I was, you know,
32:29
Speaker 3: like you said, like why like why are these little
32:31
Speaker 3: things not in there yet? Yeah?
32:33
Speaker 2: And I think movies too, like the.
32:34
Speaker 4: Football movies like help like you know, like remember the Titans,
32:38
Speaker 4: Like there's so many characters in there like that you
32:41
Speaker 4: could pull from, like do stuff with, or like The
32:45
Speaker 4: Longest Yard, which is another one where it's like there's
32:47
Speaker 4: so many wrestlers in.
32:48
Speaker 2: That movie, and it's like.
32:50
Speaker 4: Like you know, there's so many like yeah, different characters
32:52
Speaker 4: of like things you could pull from. And that's the
32:56
Speaker 4: other trainer at the Worldwide Jojo Preacher. That's one thing
32:59
Speaker 4: he arps on. It's like, you know, try to take
33:01
Speaker 4: stuff from stuff outside of wrestling, like, yeah, what's your
33:04
Speaker 4: favorite movie, what's your favorite show? Like things like that,
33:07
Speaker 4: like take stuff from that and bring it in because
33:10
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of stuff's been done in wrestling,
33:12
Speaker 4: so you know, you got to find take inspiration from
33:15
Speaker 4: other places to be a little bit different, and you know,
33:18
Speaker 4: I think that's kind of been a big help as
33:21
Speaker 4: well for for sure, that that advice and us kind
33:24
Speaker 4: of just being like this is what we watch football
33:28
Speaker 4: and sports stuff all the time, so we keep working
33:31
Speaker 4: in somehow. Yeah.
33:32
Speaker 3: I remember sharing a locker room with con one time
33:34
Speaker 3: when we were having that conversation. It was like he
33:36
Speaker 3: watches so much TV and like he takes so many
33:38
Speaker 3: lines from being the villains or the even the good
33:42
Speaker 3: guys that you know that that's exactly what you need
33:44
Speaker 3: to take it from. Is because it's out there and
33:47
Speaker 3: it's also creative. It's just hasn't been done in wrestling yet, which.
33:49
Speaker 2: Is great exactly, you know.
33:51
Speaker 4: So I think it's just like it's there's there's so
33:56
Speaker 4: many places to get inspiration from. I feel like, you know,
33:59
Speaker 4: like I mean, wrestling is a big one too, like
34:01
Speaker 4: you know, but there's there's other places and you know,
34:05
Speaker 4: I mean what I've learned is that, you know, you
34:07
Speaker 4: gotta be gotta be different nowadays, for sure, So a
34:10
Speaker 4: lot a lot of stuff's been done already.
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Speaker 3: So if you need a coach, I've had the coach
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Speaker 3: thought process for being a manager for a long time.
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Speaker 4: So there, Yeah, see, we're we're working. We're working on
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Speaker 4: we need coaches, so that's what you might have to
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Speaker 4: get a whole staf. I'm trying to get a water
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Speaker 4: boy because that would be awesome.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be great.
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Speaker 4: I can get a water break in a match, that'd
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Speaker 4: be great. I mean that's more because I'll be tired.
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Speaker 3: But well, I have a segment saw. I call it
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Speaker 3: the five counts. Five random questions. Number one, who's your
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Speaker 3: first concert?
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Speaker 4: My first concert? My parents took me to bon Jovi
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Speaker 4: in Philadelphia. I mean my parents love von Jovi and yeah,
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Speaker 4: Jersey people, so you know they love them. So that's
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Speaker 4: my first ever concert in bon Jovi. And like I
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Speaker 4: was like seven or eight. Nickelback open for him, so
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Speaker 4: that was awesome too because I love Back on a
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Speaker 4: great show. Yeah yeah, so that that's the first content
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Speaker 4: I've ever been to. Yeah, that was that was really cool.
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Speaker 3: Number two, If you owned a liquor company, brewery, winery,
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Speaker 3: coffee shop, or dispensary, which one would you own and
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Speaker 3: what would the name be?
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Speaker 4: Hmm, that's a great question. Probably brewery because I do
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Speaker 4: love me some beer.
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Speaker 3: Good breweries out in Jersey too.
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Speaker 4: I've been here Yeah, I gotta think of a clever
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Speaker 4: name for it, though. See if I did liquor store,
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Speaker 4: I could have done like S thirty spirits or something
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Speaker 4: like that.
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Speaker 2: But I can't do that now, you know.
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Speaker 4: I'm I'm just gonna call it, you know, I'll just
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Speaker 4: I'll just name it after I'll name it after my dad.
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Speaker 2: There we go.
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Speaker 4: I'll call it the coach Coach Mastrata's Brewery or something
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Speaker 4: like that. He doesn't even drink, but something like that.
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Speaker 4: Something give give him, give him, give him something.
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Speaker 2: There we go. He's got to get something out of this.
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Speaker 3: So number three, what for dinner guests? Would you have
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Speaker 3: dead or alive?
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Speaker 2: Or dinner guests dead or alive? These are great questions,
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Speaker 2: all right, Let me think, Let me think.
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Speaker 4: Mmm, Lebron James, Yes, I don't want them all to
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Speaker 4: be sports related, so I gotta think. I gotta think
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Speaker 4: outside the box because that that that would be too easy.
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Speaker 6: Uh?
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Speaker 2: Who else? Who else? Let's go with Let's go with M.
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Speaker 5: Music.
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Speaker 4: Who would I want to do music? I'll do Drake,
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Speaker 4: So Lebron Drake. That'll be awkward though, because they're kind
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Speaker 4: of kind of the thing right now, exactly, Lebron Drake.
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Speaker 2: Hmm, let me think.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to sports again. I think Jackie Robinson would
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Speaker 4: be sick. I want to go like a historical figure.
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Speaker 4: Let me think of someone. Let's do like mm hmm,
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Speaker 4: let's do Let's do like Isaac Knew And I want
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Speaker 4: to know what he was he was thinking, you know
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Speaker 4: what I mean, I want to I want to see
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Speaker 4: that what was going on with that apple and you know,
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Speaker 4: what was what was really going on there?
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Speaker 3: I dig that.
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Speaker 5: Okay, that's good.
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Speaker 3: Number four, Who are what inspires you?
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Speaker 2: Uh so?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely my my family first and foremost, like you know,
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Speaker 4: like my mom's boy at heart, and then you know,
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Speaker 4: my dad was you know, kind of my mentor my
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Speaker 4: whole life, and my brother and.
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Speaker 2: Things like that. So yeah, they definitely inspire me.
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Speaker 4: And and then besides that, you know, just that's that's
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Speaker 4: that's really it.
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Speaker 2: I just want to give them, give them.
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Speaker 4: Be able to give back to them as much as
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Speaker 4: possible so that I could, uh you know, make it.
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Speaker 2: That would be awesome and be able to help him
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Speaker 2: out there you go.
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Speaker 3: And number five, what would you tell your seventeen year
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Speaker 3: old self?
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Speaker 4: Hm?
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Speaker 2: Hmmm, probably all right.
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Speaker 4: I got a funny I got, I got too. But
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Speaker 4: the first one would be I would tell him. I
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Speaker 4: would tell him that I'm not going to grow anymore
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Speaker 4: and stop stop wishing for it because it's not gonna happen.
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Speaker 4: But I would also tell him to worry a lot
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Speaker 4: less that A lot of the things I've worried about
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Speaker 4: at that time and even after that so insignificant in
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Speaker 4: my life right now. To just enjoy, enjoy where you're at,
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Speaker 4: enjoy the present, and uh yeah, keep yeah, just keep
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Speaker 4: keep that mindset throughout your life.
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Speaker 2: For sure.
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Speaker 5: That's huge. I love that.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 3: People want to find out more about you. See you
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Speaker 3: live by your merch, follow you online, support you in
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Speaker 3: any way how can they do so?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So my socials are all sturdy Sole forty six
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Speaker 4: at symbol or whatever I got X, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's where you can find me on all
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Speaker 4: the social I mean, I just I saw merchant shows.
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Speaker 4: So you see me that show and you want to
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Speaker 4: buy something, I'm always there. And the next place you
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Speaker 4: can see me is this Saturday at rest of Us
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Speaker 4: for BST and tag Tag Championship Match. There I plug
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Speaker 4: Power Proluta show May thirtieth and uh no, not in Philly,
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Speaker 4: in the Lehigh Valley. First show outside of Philly, and yeah,
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Speaker 4: trying to get out to more places. So hopefully if
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Speaker 4: I'm not in the area that you live in, I
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Speaker 4: will be there soon, so look out.
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Speaker 5: For me there you go.
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Speaker 3: So I've loved this so much, and yeah, we got
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Speaker 3: to do this in person, and I can't wait to
39:43
Speaker 3: see what the future is for you.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thank you. It was a thank you
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Speaker 2: for having me on and it was a great conversation.
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Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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