Latest / 8 Years To Live / Know Your Worth | With Josi Mara Smith
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- Collen: Every person has a story. Some shape us, some break us, and some help us heal. Join Sisters Kim and Bibi as they explore mental health, trauma, relationships, and personal growth through honest conversations, lived experiences, and professional insights. Is that you? Is it really, really you? It's me! It's really me. WWW. I'm at home with my dog. And I'm recording a podcast. WWW. I'm at home. I just got home from taking our mom to get her haircut, which was a whole feat since she just broke her pelvic bone. So I'm home and I'm sweating a little bit, literally. And I think I'm by myself. Reuben might be home or shortly home. And I'm also recording a podcast. Yeah, that sounds like it was a lot of work. Even though it seems like such a simple task. Go get my hair cut. Let's go. Okay. Yes, from a wheelchair to the car, the car with a walker inside. anyway, sh it was good to get her out, but I'm glad to be home. Yes, I bet. Guess what? What? Who would you say is the one person that I talk about the most currently in my life? Hands down, Josie. Josie Mara Smith. And guess what? What? She's with us today. ⁓ gosh! I am so pumped. Honestly, I've heard so much. I think I've met her once, which makes me feel like I have met a celebrity. I'm not even kidding. I'm so pumped to hear about her wisdom, her knowledge, everything she has fought for. Just what I know about her through you and through bits and pieces I've kind of because I've read up on her, obviously. I'm just so pumped that we get to have her on our podcast. Yes. She's the lady that she touches anything and it turns to gold. I am not even kidding. She is a licensed and marriage family therapist. She's been a therapist for I think ten years and she recently wrote a book. So all that wisdom that you're wanting to know, if you download her book, it this so much, so much of her wisdom is in that book. And it's ⁓ when you pick it up, it's a thin book. But my goodness. Chapter seven alone. ⁓ could be a whole nother book. So I'm hoping that there's a part two. Awesome. I can't wait to read it, to hear it, all the things. So with that being said, Josie. Welcome, Josie. Thank you. Hi guys. Hi. So good to meet you. Second JoJo. Yes, yes, Jojo, JoJo Jr. So awesome. Yes. I am so happy that you guys are doing this and it's such a brilliant idea. When Kim was sharing with me what is it all about, I was extremely happy and even happier to be here, being part of it. It's a privilege. Thank you. Thank you. The privilege is seriously mine. It's whenever I'm around you, I'm just like taking notes. She said, What? I just want to record you wherever we go. It's amazing. So I'm really excited about today. The one time I was around you, I wanted to record it too. I went to a ladies bible study. And you taught about I think ambiguous loss and maybe some of the color code. ⁓ my word. May not mean a lot to people, but once you broke it down, I have gone back to that several times and I've talked about ambiguous loss to so many people and I learned it from you. So thank you. glad. Yeah. ⁓ it is definitely something that I didn't know anything about it until I went to school and they let us pick a project. So I picked Grieve and in studying Grieve, I came across Paulina Boss, which is really the queen of ambiguous loss, and I was the same. I was like, why is nobody talking about this? So it could be a whole nother podcast just for that. Yes. Well, and as you're talking about that, like I wanna kind of tie that into your book. Did you experience any ambiguous loss as you were writing your book? Or I guess maybe rewind a little bit. This book that you wrote, From Broke to Booked. Okay, let's let's intro into that first because I know that I like to jump into everything and I just want to deep dive. But tell me a little bit about your book first before we do a deep dive. Sure. ⁓ in twenty I I you were right. I am in in private practice. I am practicing for 10 years. I have always been private practice. I've never done ⁓ I've never worked for someone else in this field. About five years in, I started noticing a big difference between my practice and other of my colleagues' practices, where I was full and I was booked, as booked as I wanted to be. People were struggling. They were like, Are you guys also struggling to find clients? Is your practice as empty as mine? And I'm like, No, mine isn't. So I really started to observe this pattern. And I decided to create a class called Master Your Finances Ethical and Effective Strategy Tools for Growth, which you were there, Kim. And then that class turned into the book. So every PowerPoint of that class was one chapter. So that's how the book started. And after that I did my research, and I have been trained in internal family systems ever since. That's the chapter seven that you said could be a book on its own. So I have added some things, but that's how it started. And really with ⁓ a Deep dive for myself in how how did I grow my practice? Because I'm not a fancy person, I'm I'm from Brazil, I'm not even from here. How did I go from zero? Because I was a baker before. How did I go from being a baker to building a private practice that is at according to research top one in private practice in the United States? So I for me to make that class which turned into this book was like, what did I do? I really traced it back. What are what are the things that I did, the things that I didn't do? And it everything is organic. Everything are are simple things that anyone can apply. So that's how the book came about. Amazing. I love that. Yes. I like how that transitioned from a class like each I don't know, I haven't read the book yet, but How each chapter has developed into well, I guess it didn't start with the book. How each class developed into a chapter. Or you know what I mean? Like just different steps, different progress. Yes, that's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm wondering in your book you mentioned because this wasn't in your class, the part where you were broke for a minute. Like your class started where you are now, you know, ten years into it. But if we rewind a little bit, in the book you mentioned you were a single mom you went from being a baker, ⁓ being a single mom, broke, and you're trying to grow this business, which growing any kind of business is super hard. And then you're also In school, so all of these things are happening. So take me into that survival state. Like what did that look like? It's interesting because when when I was in it and usually ⁓ just as humans when we eat when we are in it, it's very hard for us to recognize we are in it. So it's not that I was going through survival mode knowing I was going through survival mode. Because you barely have time to think. It's like I have to make sure I don't die kind of ⁓ What what the brain incorporates is I have to make sure I don't die. So you don't really think, like, poor me, I'm surviving here. But looking now that I have been a therapist for 10 years, so I obviously have more have guided people through their own process and have more knowledge, I can see how that Really affected my body. About five years ago, I I discovered that my cortisol levels, which is the stress hormones, were super high, and they were so high that it took me three years to be able to regulate. ⁓ my gosh. Just two blood work ago, because it's a specific thing that you have to do for blood work for you to chest or for you to check your stress hormones. Just two blood work ago, that's when I was able. to completely regulate, but that stress was that survival became incorporated in my cells that it was so hard to to be able to fix and organize was a lot of like ⁓ well my own trauma work but also I took a lot of supplements especially specially designed for it and a lot of blood work to see is it working it's not working Plus hormones and several other things, but I would say it was more like go, go, go, go, go, don't have time to think. And then my body was incorporating the body keeps the score, right? My body was observing all of those things. And I also had to be really careful not to lose my temper. I had little kids and I didn't want to traumatize them. And I did a pretty good job, but I had to be extremely intense intentional in not doing. My desire was to just blow up every time. Yeah, it came out as anger. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. For sure. Wow. Yeah, that makes sense. So as you were going through this process and changing, like you said, you started to Take care of yourself, take supplements. How did you go from that? Like how did you go from just this pattern of doing things into changing actually your entire foundation? Like knowing what you deserved and how to get what you deserved. What did that look like? Yeah, I wish I could give you a pretty answer. But the reality is that when you are in survival mode for so long, for me, and I also talk about this in the book, survival ⁓ survival mode started when I was one and my biological dad passed away. Right. There is a lot of things that come with having a dad that I didn't have simply because he wasn't there. so when you Are in survival mode for most of your life, you have to be very intentional, and sometimes forever, for you not to go back to survival mode because that's what you know. It's like the same as breathing, right? So, although right now, you know, 2026, I'm not leaving survival mode a hundred percent. Sometimes I still feel myself agitated, and I need to remind myself. We're okay. We're not surviving anymore. You don't have to look for coins on the cracks of your couch in order for you to put gas anymore. You have a loving husband now, right? It's not that magical, but the path for it, I believe, is healing. ⁓ depending on how deep. The damage you cannot do this work on your own. You have to you have to c hire a professional. You know, so trauma therapy is very effective. self-knowledge and self-care. I believe those would be the pillar for someone to be able to get out of that survival mode and little by little enter into I'm safe. Type of ⁓ lifestyle. For me, I am way better than when I was before. I feel that at days survival mode is still here, so I need to be very attentive. I don't know if one day I will completely get out of it. But there is definitely there are definitely ways for us to live life a little bit more balanced. And that self knowledge, that's something that you mentioned in your book, right? Is self knowledge can really i it is a pillar of It's a superpower. Yes, it can yeah, it is. And it when we don't have that self knowledge, when we don't have time or don't make time or we are in that survival mode, we don't even know that we're in that survival mode. And so for you, you've learned along the way and now you you can actually be intentional. ⁓ for me, you know, or like you're saying, for you manifested as Anger and so now it's like, ⁓ I'm getting a little snippy. What's going on? Exactly. Because you have that profound self knowledge, right? I have felt like this before, even if it's not anger that day, right? 'Cause it can show up in different colors. When I know myself, I also know I'm off today. I may not be able to fully pinpoint what it is, but I'm off. Right. So that comes with that deep knowledge of self. Mm-hmm. And so that anger that came up, did that was that protecting you from something? ⁓ yeah, a hundred percent. Protection mode constantly, right? ⁓ not having a dad, you are put in a lot of situations where You don't have that figure to show up for you. So you kind of have to become that for yourself. And although I had brothers, and my brothers were wonderful, they're they're not my dad, right? So definitely that protective mode. I've learned that very early. That ⁓ there is no male figure here. You you gotta you gotta be it, right? ⁓ So definitely deep. related to protection. That's interesting because that's something that you learned as a one year old. Mm-hmm. That's and how it's now playing out in your adult life. You go into survival mode, anger kicks in, I'm protecting myself because when I was one, I didn't have my dad to protect me. Like you said, That professional going to a therapist to help somebody put those connections together because I would never have thought that. Mm-mm. Exactly. Exactly. And when I was going through my divorce ⁓ with my first husband, so obviously I'm married again now. before I decided to divorce, I found a therapist. In that That time I was going through my internship. So I had just finished school and I was still going through my own internship, getting to my becoming fully licensed. So in that I found a therapist and deciding to divorce, going through the divorce, going through the healing, find my new husband, dating my new husband, and marrying my new husband. All through that I had. A therapist almost weekly. For three years I went to her weekly. That's how broken I was and how much I desired normacy. I was like, I don't know the answer, but I know I can be healed. So that is how thirsty I was for healing. That was yeah, that she was a very experienced therapist. That had a style that spoke to my style. Because I also think that that's important. Right. And I couldn't have done all the work and put all the pieces together if I hadn't had that professional help. Especially in the midst of s literally surviving and going to school, being pregnant. Going going through divorce, that like that right there is so much. But now you've added so many layers and to know healing is possible. That's amazing. Mm-hmm. And so because of this situation, it seems like ⁓ you were probably overextending yourself. Right? You were doing all these things. How do you find that middle ground? I know you said you were going to a therapist weekly, but then how do you can you tell us how you start putting that into practice like little by little in real time? Yeah, one thing I knew when I divorced my first husband, which was a complete shock. I never thought I was gonna be one of those divorced people, like ever. ⁓ one thing I knew for sure, I didn't know a lot of things, but there was one thing that I knew for sure. I wanted to become the best version of myself ever. So I Looked into healing myself mentally, healing my finances, healing my body, and getting a strong spirituality, right? I like to see life as a triangle, body, soul, and spirit. So I was on a quest to become the best version of myself. That was my goal. My I had two goals. Survive. I actually I had three goals. Survive, not mess up my kids, and become the best version of myself. Easy to achieve. So because I was in that quest and I always had that triangle in mind, body, soul, and spirit, I found that fighting classes in in that at that time, Muay Thai was really, really like a self care for me. Sometimes I would get into the class Anxious, fearful, all the things, and leave completely like brand new. And I punched those bags like there was no tomorrow. I remember some days like really punching those bags. so that helped a lot, and I also had a therapist. So because I was in this quest. Of becoming the best version of myself, while I was surviving, I already had established some pretty awesome outlets. So I was able to, you know, clean up my cup in a in a weekly basis. Because ideally I would have liked to go to my classes five days a week, but some weeks I would only make three days. But it doesn't matter. I had you know I had a goal. I had a goal in mind. I always like to say, if you don't know where you're going, you're never going to get there. And I knew I wanted to become the best version of myself. I love that. If you don't know where you're going, how are you gonna get there? Yeah. And so you said I had goals and these were the goals. And part of that included like I know that it's possible to heal. And so was that just like an internal thing? Or like how did you know that it was possible to heal? Like, I don't even know that I've ever had the thought I need to heal. I I mean, because I had so much trauma in my life, it's like I need to heal. D how did you know that? Yeah. I think part of what helped was because at that time I had already finished school. And going to therapy going to school to become a therapist, you learn a lot about those processes. And because I was fresh from school, all of those theories, all of those books, everything was really fresh. And we have a lot of neuroscience backing up. Healing is possible. I mean, we have the concept of neuroplasticity with neuroscience. So I believe part of it was schooling and how much that helped for me to know. And innately, something that I was born with was a resilience, right? And it's a DNA thing too because my family were resilient, right? We we were farmers, three generations of farmers. So at that time, my grandmother, my my grandfather, my grandmother, my dad, they would go to unexplored parts of Brazil, parts of Brazil that literally didn't have anybody there. And they would work the land and create a farm. So This resilience, make it happen, I think it was one of the good things that I inherited from my family. So I think it was a combination of this resilience and also what I learned from school. Generational resilience. ⁓ my gosh. So I've always heard, you know, generational trauma, generational the negative. But to think generational resilience like that is really, really powerful. Generational positivity too. We inherit the good and the bad from our ancestors from we are a sum of three generations before us. Not only ⁓ not only the negatives, but the positives too. Say more about that. That generational inheritance. Because we do inherit the good and the bad. I've been so focused on the bad. And that is one thing I've noticed about you. For you it's usually positive like i and i'm like is it that it's sfbt this solutions focused you know therapy where they focus always on the positive but i'm like no because she's always freaking positive so tell me about this like inheritance the good and the bad yeah when we inherit right rather if it's DNA or Physical, if you inherit a property, you are gonna inherit the good and the bad of the property. When you inherit your DNA, we don't just inherit the good or the bad, we inherit it all. Right? We are a sum of three generations before us, whether if we knew them or not. As an example, my older brother and I, we had the same dad, the one that passed away. And he was three when ⁓ our father died, and I was one. So he had very little time to be with my dad. And everybody says you walk like your dad, you talk like your dad, you sit like your dad, you function mentally like your dad. He's a copy of my dad, even physically. People are like thinking like he came back alive, that's how much they look alike. And he had very little contact with him. So that is that l like some people say, like, ⁓ you have I I I'm kinda digging to my history a little bit with my mom now ⁓ and even recording some things and she has stories of my ⁓ great grandmother and we are so much alike and I have never met her. Yeah. I was like, she's the one that would fight someone on the street to protect her family if she had to. Like she was very skillful with her the little things that life gave her. She made a lot. So as she's telling the story of this woman that she didn't meet, I didn't meet, right? Because she died young. I was like, that's me. Yeah. Right? So when we hear it. We inherit the good and the bad. We talk about generational trauma and we talk very little about generational blessings. Yeah. They are as present. Well, we are a some. The good, the bad, the ugly, the awesome, all of it. Yes. Even the picture that you painted of when you inherit land, it comes with good and it comes with bad. You said something about your great grandmother, how she would fight anybody. On the street to protect your family. That's that resilience piece. Right? Exactly. And it speaks into your Muay Thai. Like she would fight anybody. And exactly you've told me about the bob that you have at your house that you know you will kick around or you know, needing to let out some of that energy. That is really cool to hear. And it's the first time when I was talking to my mom, and this was probably like three months ago when we were talking specifically about her. And I was like, that's where my like for fighting comes. Cause I just think it's the coolest thing ever. ⁓ my husband and I always joke, like, I should have been MMA fighter, like I would have so much fun doing that. Just that wasn't the theme in Brazil. Cause in Brazil, if you were a girl, automatically you did ballet. Yeah. And if you were a boy, automatically you did fighting. So that wasn't an option at that time. But That's when I was like, that's where he comes from. Yeah, that is crazy. And so you just barely found that out recently? Yeah. ⁓ That's so cool. Yeah. So it is super cool. Yes. And I feel like I've totally deviated from your book because your book has so many good things. And even I think part of the like what's generational, you correct me if I'm wrong. ⁓ part of that generational part that you got is You know your worth. And because you know your worth, you are able to translate that into like knowing when to raise your fees with clients, knowing that you've done a lot of hard work, you've taken a lot of trainings, you've taken paid a lot of money and time away from your family to learn all these different modalities to show up as the best person that you can be. And you know, like, okay, times are changing, fuel is six dollars a gallon. Tell me a little bit about the raising of the fees. I definitely believe that that is something that therapists I feel a lot of professions, but I'm gonna speak to therapists because that's what I see the most and I do the most, have a hard time charging what they're worth. Right. A lot of times when we work in a helping profession, you are supposed to a lot of things, right? You're supposed to do pro bono work, you're supposed to charge less, you're supposed to so many things. Right, which is not a word that I like to use very much. The shoulds, right? I like to keep the shoulds out. But my way of thinking is if I do well in my business, if I charge prime price, that will free me more time to help more people. So I charge prime price. Therefore, I don't need to see 40 clients a week in order to pay my bills. Therefore, I can have those pro bono clients from time to time, and I can go volunteer ⁓ in the jails and prisons, which is a passion of mine. I also respond to emergencies in the community. When October first shooting happened, I opened my clinic for anybody that was part of the October shooting to come and have therapy sessions for free for as long as they need it. Wow. Right? Wow. Sometimes schools or churches or hospitals call me from time to time for me to go and do some kind of training on an emergency that they have or or a chaos situation that they have. ⁓ and I don't charge for those. So because I charge prime price, because I charge what I'm worth, then I can help more people. So I believe that that is ⁓ the true meaning of a caring profession, a helping profession, because you're also helping yourself. You're not going home busy. mentally busy when is the next time you're gonna be able to eat or pay the bills or if your gas is gonna be cut or your water is gonna be cut. No, you can really show up extremely well. I can ⁓ quickly share a story that happened many, many years ago. This was probably seven years ago. I was I had this one individual client, a female client, and She came because her husband thought that she she was the problem and she needed help and she was crazy and all of those stuff. Talking to her became very clear not only for me, but also for the police that has been involved in their home several times that she needed to flee that husband, otherwise she would die. And the moment she told me that we created a plan, she was going to tell her husband, because her husband wanted her to do therapy because I was fixing her, right? She was the problem. And I was fixing her. So he was all for therapy. So I was like, okay, this is where you're gonna tell him. You're gonna tell him that I changed my policies, and from now on I do cash only. I believe at that time my fee was like one fifty. So I do cash only. I am letting my system go and sh and she was like, Okay, I said, Do you have a place? So she made a backpack for her and her kids to I escape a backpack and she leave it at a cousin's house. And so this is what she started doing. Instead of paying me, I made her one of my per bono clients, zero payment. She would get that hundred and fifty and would take to the cousin's house to build up some cash. To be able to flee. And we did that for months. We're like, we either going to wait for you to have a good cash flow, or we're going to wait until like if you don't leave, you're gonna die. And we kept assessing. Every time she came, we kept assessing. And instead of ⁓ doing therapy because she was the problem and she needed to be fixed, we start working with the police department, with ⁓ safe nest with other places in town in order to make a plan for her to flee. When it was time for her to do so, which she ended up going to a different state for a while, she had a significant amount of cash because I wasn't charging her. The one fifty every week she was saving. Right? So this is me responding to an emergency in the community. Meanwhile I was still able to pay my bills I was still able at that time I was still a single mom. I was still able to show up for my kids. ⁓ and mind you, I never got alimony and my ex never helped me with a dime as far as the kids go. So school was on me, everything was on me. That did not because I charge a good fee, I have always charged the amount that I have to the level that I was. I could help this person. But I wasn't sacrifice feeding my own kids. And I believe that that's the worth. That's the true meaning of you charging what you're supposed to. You are able to help more people. I didn't even think about it. I didn't have to go home and do some calculations to see if I was able to figure that out and help her out. Like immediately I was like, This is what we're gonna do. Mm. Amazing. So it sounds like because you were taking care of yourself, which newer concept selves, then we can in turn actually help others. If we're not taking care of ourselves, then everything else will consume us. And we can't big give back to the community, to our friends, family. And what you said, ⁓ my word, that blew my mind. The care that you had for that client and the like so strategic and loving towards each person involved. You were loving yourself well, you were loving your client well, and you were loving her spouse that also needs help in a way that maybe isn't a typical way. Like be I used to think love was just saying yes. So you saying helping her to say no Just helps everybody. That's incredible. Amazing. Yeah. Because he could have easily have ended up in jail. Which he didn't. The client came back, by the way, after more than a year and did a check in with me and ended up divorcing and nobody went to jail. And you know, little by little the father is able to reconnect with the kids. You know, so yeah, you are right. Loving is not necessarily fluffy and glitter and butterflies all the time. There are several ways of doing love. blew my mind. I could end here and be like, okay, I'm gonna go ponder this and write it down because We're supposed to be helping others. And we don't help ourselves. And how can we show up as our best self if we're not taking care of the person that's with us twenty four seven? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And giving ourselves the value. Like you said, you know what you're worth. That is not in any way flattering yourself. That's just knowing truly this is what I'm worth. This is what people should pay me. Because then with my time and resources I can help others. Yeah. So cool. I'm also a big advocate of you charging what you are bringing to the table. If you're a therapist and you don't hear your client saying, I am changing, I am transforming. This was transformative. ⁓ my gosh, if you're not seeing results, perhaps you need to spend your time doing more training. But if in your practice there is real transformation, and you have the time and you have the the resources and the trainings and people are getting real transformation, it's worth it's the same thing. I I think of it as the same thing as shoes, which Bibi, you know much more about that than I do. ⁓ if I'm going to buy an expensive pair of shoes, I'm going to I'm getting that quality. If I'm going to buy one for shoes for less, right? That's a store, right? Yeah. Yeah. Pay less. Pay less. Right? Which I have bought shoes there when I was a single mom many times, the quality is gonna be different. You get leather is gonna last more than you get fake leather. So you're not gonna pay. For leather, the same price that you pay for fake leather. Why do we think differently as far as our services? Are you leather or are you fake leather? Yes. I've been both. Right? I've been fake leather for a long time. Yes, it's so true. But then when you are, right? I didn't start charging two fifty a session. I started charging seventy-five a session. Mm-hmm. Yes. Right? You refine is like wine, I guess. You refine, you become more expensive, or diamond. You are a rock a piece of rock or you are a sparkly diamond. You need to charge according to what you're worth. Yes. Mm-hmm. Like a mattress, like what you sleep on. Oof. What like it helps our whole body or our whole body hurts. Same thing. Exactly. And though if you want a good one, and they're gonna be expensive. You're not gonna find a good mattress cheap. That's the same. That doesn't mean you need to be stingy, right? With my jail work, for example, we hope about and Kim comes with me, we help about sixty to eighty people a month for free. Yes. Right? So that's not charging what you're worth does not equal being cheap. ⁓ With your time, with being stingy. Yes. Yes. Right? It's the opposite of it. Yes. That's mind blowing. Mm-hmm. Seriously. And I don't want to end this conversation, so I'm hoping that you join us again because we're running out of time and I'm on question like three or four and you I'm like, is it I don't remember that being in your book, The Leather and the Plether. But what a good analogy. Yes. Yes. I know leather. Are you fake leather? Yes. Yes. And I think like kind of what you And if you are real leather, why are you charging as a fake leather? Yes. Yes. And if you're fake leather, you can become real leather. Like you said, if you're not hearing this feedback from whoever your clients are, if it's a customer, if you're s providing goods or whatever, if you're not hearing that, okay, what can I do to up my game, to up You know, my knowledge, how can I better show up for clients? Just walk around Josie and take notes from her life and ⁓ I know it. Yes. Every conversation we have. Josie says, guess what Josie said? I'm like, what? Tell me. I need to know. Yes. Yes. You are leather, Josie. Yeah, no pressure. But you're the real deal. Leather. Next time I say something dumb, they're gonna call you. They're gonna go like, were you talking about, Josie? Next time you do, I would love to be there because I've never heard anything dumb come out of your mouth. So amazing. ⁓ well thank you so much. And really I would really love to move on to my however five other questions that I had that we didn't even touch because so much gold in just this one. bit. I agree. Maybe we can actually do a part two with Josie to finish off questions five through a hundred. Exactly. Exactly. Thank you so much. You're so awesome. I so appreciate what I've learned from you through my sister. Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you guys. How can people find you before you leave us? How can people find you and where can they buy your book? Yes. So my book is available on Amazon. Looks like this. Amazon, we have right now we have the paperback, the hard copy, and we also have the ebook. And really soon we are going to I'm going to be uploading the audiobook, which a lot of people are excited about that. And The audiobook in Spanish and in Portuguese, which is my native language, is also coming up soon. So we're gonna have three audiobook versions of the book. Amazing. And then ⁓ you can always go to www.josymara therapy dot com or call me or text me. Text is the easiest way to get a hold of me. 702-280 3759. And yes, that's my real number. So don't send me spam. 702-280-3759. Facebook, Instagram, Josie Maris Smith. Or yeah, I think those text is definitely the easiest and the fastest way to contact me. Josie, you have no idea what I've done. What you've done by sharing your phone number. I'm gonna go to the phone. ⁓ yes, please. Two in the morning. Dear Josie, I need help. Instead of nine one one, we'll just call Josie. Yes, thank you, thank you, thank you. And congratulations on your book. That is so awesome. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thanks. Bye.