Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: B2K Talks New Album ‘Eclipse’, Growing Up In The Industry, Fatherhood + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hold up.
- 0:01Speaker 2: Every day I wake up.
- 0:03Speaker 3: Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. You all finished
- 0:05Speaker 3: or you all done?
- 0:08Speaker 4: Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club.
- 0:10Speaker 4: DJ Envy, Jessa Larry, Charlamagne Tha God, Envy and Jessa
- 0:13Speaker 4: are out, but Lauren LaRosa is here. And we got
- 0:16Speaker 4: some special guests in the building, the icons, the.
- 0:18Speaker 3: Legends, B2K. What's happening?
- 0:21Speaker 2: And we're back. What's up, DJ?
- 0:23Speaker 3: And we're back. Black and Holly favorite, man. New album, Eclipse.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Yes, indeed.
- 0:28Speaker 3: It's been 20 years since your last album. That's crazy.
- 0:31Speaker 3: That's crazy. Why did it take so long?
- 0:33Speaker 2: I was thinking the same thing. No, I was thinking
- 0:35Speaker 2: the same thing.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Fellas?
- 0:36Speaker 5: Fellas?
- 0:38Speaker 2: I mean, timing definitely played a role. You know what
- 0:41Speaker 2: I'm saying? Um, I don't know. I don't know. We, we,
- 0:44Speaker 2: we've said a lot of things about, you know, why we,
- 0:47Speaker 2: we are back together and doing music. Cause obviously touring
- 0:51Speaker 2: was super successful for us, but to take it to
- 0:54Speaker 2: the music, to take it to that next level, um,
- 0:58Speaker 2: is definitely about the fans and y'all speak on that.
- 1:02Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah.
- 1:02Speaker 5: I mean, it's the fans.
- 1:03Speaker 6: It's, uh, Everything that I think you guys were able
- 1:06Speaker 6: to see us go through publicly, you know, that played
- 1:10Speaker 6: a big part in us growing. While people thought that,
- 1:12Speaker 6: you know, it was kind of like ruining us, I
- 1:15Speaker 6: think it was building us as men.
- 1:17Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:17Speaker 6: To be able to be here in this moment and
- 1:20Speaker 6: reconcile and then do what we needed to do to
- 1:23Speaker 6: show our appreciation for all of our fans who supported us,
- 1:26Speaker 6: you know, not only as B2K, but Omarion solo-wise as well.
- 1:30Speaker 7: What's different for y'all this time, this time around with
- 1:32Speaker 7: the album, all these years later?
- 1:34Speaker 8: I would say Indivision and collectively, we are aware. We
- 1:37Speaker 8: A & R' d this project. We all brought some amazing
- 1:41Speaker 8: relationships to the table.
- 1:43Speaker 1: I see y'all in the writing credits.
- 1:44Speaker 5: I mean, we've been dropping heat.
- 1:49Speaker 2: Business intact. I would also say we had fun. That's
- 1:55Speaker 2: a good word. We had fun. We were able now
- 1:58Speaker 2: to speak from a different level of experience. So the
- 2:02Speaker 2: song I would co-relate to just a great dish that's
- 2:06Speaker 2: flavorful and is marinated and well-seasoned. You know what I'm saying?
- 2:09Speaker 2: So that's what the music feels like. And, you know,
- 2:12Speaker 2: it's a wide array of assortments, you know what I'm saying,
- 2:15Speaker 2: of feels and vibes. You know what I mean?
- 2:18Speaker 5: Here we go again. I told you.
- 2:20Speaker 2: We always talking.
- 2:23Speaker 5: About food and chicken.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Hold on.
- 2:26Speaker 5: You got to season it.
- 2:27Speaker 3: Hold on.
- 2:28Speaker 5: Hold on. And then it's just like, yeah, it's Tremikulousness-less.
- 2:34Speaker 5: Particular French is serendipitous.
- 2:35Speaker 6: I'm like, when did y'all graduate from the TI University?
- 2:40Speaker 5: Expeditionally. I'm like, okay, I got to go look that up.
- 2:43Speaker 5: What did you say?
- 2:43Speaker 3: Okay, you said what that word mean?
- 2:45Speaker 4: Was there ever a point where y'all felt genuinely like
- 2:48Speaker 4: y'all would never record another album?
- 2:49Speaker 3: Like y'all probably had closed that book like it's first
- 2:52Speaker 3: case and never happened.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Maybe a.
- 2:54Speaker 3: For me, for sure.
- 2:55Speaker 8: He probably closed it. I think he closed it as well.
- 2:59Speaker 2: I definitely closed it as well.
- 3:01Speaker 3: I closed it too.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Yeah, I closed it.
- 3:02Speaker 5: Yeah, we was in the studio. Because me and him are,
- 3:05Speaker 5: he's a Scorpio, I'm a Leo, so it's like, we
- 3:07Speaker 5: don't really look back.
- 3:09Speaker 3: That's facts.
- 3:09Speaker 5: You know, I'm not messing with you no more, brother.
- 3:12Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? So I was like, nah,
- 3:14Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying?
- 3:16Speaker 2: I'm optimistic.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Okay.
- 3:18Speaker 3: So you and Raz was- Raz said he was- I
- 3:20Speaker 3: seen it.
- 3:20Speaker 2: I was already here. I mean, I told them in 2021,
- 3:23Speaker 2: I said, we're going to be on the road again.
- 3:25Speaker 2: We're going to be working again as a group. I
- 3:27Speaker 2: see it already. Like, I have a very in tune,
- 3:33Speaker 2: what do you call it? Discernment, intuition.
- 3:36Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Charlamagne's like that.
- 3:38Speaker 3: Why did you feel like that?
- 3:39Speaker 2: Well, I forced a hand. You know what I'm saying?
- 3:41Speaker 2: I found the money. You know what I'm saying? We
- 3:43Speaker 2: made sure the trademark was good as a collective. But no, seriously,
- 3:47Speaker 2: it was a lot of.
- 3:48Speaker 8: You know about the work we had to put into
- 3:49Speaker 8: it to get to it. But being able to understand
- 3:51Speaker 8: that there was a bigger purpose why I was put
- 3:53Speaker 8: in this group.
- 3:54Speaker 2: I grew up in a church. I grew up in
- 3:55Speaker 2: foster homes. I grew up in group homes.
- 3:56Speaker 8: And I had to understand that I was given the
- 3:58Speaker 8: opportunity to do something great. So when it got taken
- 4:00Speaker 8: from me, there was things that I needed to learn.
- 4:02Speaker 8: I needed to humble myself.
- 4:03Speaker 2: I needed to grow. I needed to take accountability.
- 4:05Speaker 3: Now.
- 4:05Speaker 2: I can sit here and say, okay, B2K, boy, the kings.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Here we are.
- 4:08Speaker 8: We got our thoughts under the captivity of Christ. Let's
- 4:10Speaker 8: go to work. How can we inspire our kids? How
- 4:12Speaker 8: can we inspire the generation? So like the fellas were saying,
- 4:14Speaker 8: the evolution was the album.
- 4:15Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And this album speaks volumes.
- 4:17Speaker 2: And we call it Eclipse, a.k.a. No Skips. Please listen
- 4:21Speaker 2: to me. No skippity. No skips.
- 4:23Speaker 3: So what's the intention? None of y'all seem like y'all
- 4:27Speaker 3: do things without intention. So what's the intention?
- 4:30Speaker 2: Closing out the legacy properly. You know what I'm saying?
- 4:32Speaker 2: Fulfilling what....
- 4:34Speaker 8: The void that was missed with all the fans. No,
- 4:40Speaker 8: I'm just saying. The group broke up, you know, just like, damn,
- 4:45Speaker 8: like that next album probably would have been our biggest
- 4:47Speaker 8: album and our biggest project coming off of You Got Served,
- 4:49Speaker 8: you know what I mean? So it was just like,
- 4:51Speaker 8: we broke up, maybe God preserved us and he needed
- 4:53Speaker 8: us to learn so we understand what we gotta really do,
- 4:55Speaker 8: especially for a black culture. Right, I think all of
- 4:58Speaker 8: us have our own intention that makes this amazing.
- 5:03Speaker 6: You know, first of all, I know y'all got a
- 5:05Speaker 6: black girl, you know, Joy. We got a black boy, Joy,
- 5:08Speaker 6: you know. And us all having children, let alone all
- 5:11Speaker 6: of us having sons, I think it was very important
- 5:14Speaker 6: to inspire something that's not happening. Us as black men
- 5:20Speaker 6: coming together and working together, you know, and they want
- 5:23Speaker 6: to keep us against each other. So us showing our
- 5:25Speaker 6: sons that, you know, no matter what you're going through,
- 5:27Speaker 6: you can always... reconcile. You can have that conversation. Be
- 5:31Speaker 6: a man about yours. You know what I'm saying? Be accountable.
- 5:34Speaker 6: And I think we wanted to inspire that into our
- 5:37Speaker 6: community more.
- 5:39Speaker 5: I know that's for me. You know, that was big
- 5:41Speaker 5: for sure.
- 5:42Speaker 7: I thought I was a huge B2K fan and I
- 5:45Speaker 7: was just sitting here realizing I never knew B2K was
- 5:47Speaker 7: boys to kings.
- 5:48Speaker 2: It's not. It's not. No, he made that up.
- 5:49Speaker 7: Okay, because I'm like, I didn't know that.
- 5:54Speaker 1: I thought I was in tune with all the things
- 5:56Speaker 1: y'all was doing, but when did that start?
- 5:58Speaker 3: Yesterday.
- 5:59Speaker 1: Okay.
- 6:00Speaker 8: I'm thinking about my own spiritual journey, my road.
- 6:04Speaker 2: I didn't get on my Googles.
- 6:05Speaker 1: I'm like, hold on.
- 6:06Speaker 5: At the age you're at.
- 6:07Speaker 3: Now, the moment you're at now, that's how you see it.
- 6:09Speaker 1: It does make sense.
- 6:10Speaker 2: You don't get it from me, but.
- 6:12Speaker 8: Usher spoke on that at the BET Awards, you know,
- 6:14Speaker 8: fathers being present, you know, and I want to salute
- 6:16Speaker 8: all these three gentlemen right here. They're amazing fathers. They
- 6:19Speaker 8: inspired me to be a great father as well.
- 6:21Speaker 2: So, you know, that's what it's about, man. That's what
- 6:23Speaker 2: it's about. We got kids and we don't want our
- 6:24Speaker 2: kids to walk through our, you know, our mistakes.
- 6:26Speaker 3: That's right. That's right.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Y'all talk about things marinating.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Come on, talk about the sauce now.
- 6:32Speaker 1: Yeah, so boyfriend on the project, right?
- 6:35Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Is that like any old back to girlfriend? It is.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Okay.
- 6:39Speaker 1: It is.
- 6:39Speaker 2: You're the first one that caught, actually, like, straight up. Yeah.
- 6:42Speaker 2: Realized that.
- 6:43Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 6:44Speaker 7: Times is a little different now, though, because when y'all
- 6:45Speaker 7: was singing Girlfriend, it was like, I want a girlfriend.
- 6:47Speaker 1: I want a relationship. Now it's like, I'll be here
- 6:49Speaker 1: with you for the night. What we doing?
- 6:50Speaker 3: For the night.
- 6:51Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 6:51Speaker 2: For the night. And see, that's why boyfriend in context
- 6:56Speaker 2: makes sense, because the first lyric is, I know what
- 6:59Speaker 2: you like. I could be your boyfriend for the night,
- 7:02Speaker 2: if you like. You know what I'm saying?
- 7:04Speaker 3: Not you, Boogs. Or us.
- 7:07Speaker 2: Actually, we the only single ones. I never stopped dating
- 7:11Speaker 2: my wife.
- 7:12Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?
- 7:13Speaker 2: I love that.
- 7:14Speaker 1: We going out tonight.
- 7:16Speaker 2: She got the.
- 7:17Speaker 5: Heels on everything. Exactly. Y'all can do the 49th day marriage.
- 7:20Speaker 1: You got no idea.
- 7:21Speaker 5: You like that.
- 7:27Speaker 2: Facts.
- 7:27Speaker 3: Why you ain't think of that one, Boog?
- 7:29Speaker 2: No, no, no. Be quiet. We're sitting up here right
- 7:33Speaker 2: now like, this nigga's taking all our bars from other interviews.
- 7:36Speaker 3: No.
- 7:37Speaker 5: That was my bar.
- 7:40Speaker 2: I was talking about how fathers, all the fathers I
- 7:43Speaker 2: know is present and active.
- 7:44Speaker 5: Boog was like, I never stopped dating my wife.
- 7:47Speaker 3: I'm looking, I'm like, I never stopped dating my wife.
- 7:51Speaker 2: It's crazy.
- 7:52Speaker 5: We love you, Ryan.
- 7:54Speaker 1: But the new project.
- 7:56Speaker 2: Maybe I was inspired.
- 7:58Speaker 1: But Eclipse is really grown and sexy.
- 8:00Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 8:01Speaker 1: It really is.
- 8:03Speaker 7: And so writing about the love now is a little
- 8:05Speaker 7: bit different than when y'all, all those years ago, right?
- 8:08Speaker 7: Like the first song, I Love You. It's like, I
- 8:11Speaker 7: love you, but y'all talking about all the things y'all
- 8:13Speaker 7: buying her. And like, I'm like, okay. So love is,
- 8:16Speaker 7: y'all understand the love on the material side. That's how
- 8:18Speaker 7: y'all kicking it off.
- 8:19Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:20Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:20Speaker 5: I mean, I'll say, because you know what? What you
- 8:23Speaker 5: was going to say?
- 8:24Speaker 2: No, go ahead.
- 8:24Speaker 3: You had your clip loaded.
- 8:25Speaker 6: No, no, no.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Go ahead.
- 8:26Speaker 3: No, you go ahead.
- 8:27Speaker 5: No, because I'm going to back you up. I got you.
- 8:29Speaker 2: Man, so that record is like an answer to the
- 8:32Speaker 2: spin that. Right.
- 8:34Speaker 1: I hear y'all say spin that in there.
- 8:35Speaker 6: If you listen to the record, he go, you know,
- 8:38Speaker 6: Bayou Gucci, Bayou Prada, Dolce & Gabbana, but it also
- 8:41Speaker 6: says hair, nails, got your credit back on track.
- 8:45Speaker 3: That's a fact.
- 8:45Speaker 5: We building this woman. You know what I'm saying?
- 8:48Speaker 6: We don't want her to be, you know, like, we
- 8:50Speaker 6: want her to actually be powerful, a real partner, so
- 8:53Speaker 6: the bags don't just do it.
- 8:55Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?
- 8:56Speaker 2: Yeah, and also, I think that in hindsight, because I'm
- 8:59Speaker 2: a very serious music person, people forget that you still
- 9:04Speaker 2: supposed to have fun when you listen to music, and
- 9:07Speaker 2: everything is not supposed to be so by the letter.
- 9:09Speaker 2: And the way that I'm saying, I love you. You know,
- 9:12Speaker 2: it's very playful. You know what I'm saying? So on
- 9:15Speaker 2: top of what the guy's saying, you know, we still
- 9:17Speaker 2: want to give our generation music that they can just
- 9:21Speaker 2: have fun to and act silly and talk shit. You
- 9:24Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?
- 9:24Speaker 5: Yeah, because we not in the club with the Draco.
- 9:26Speaker 2: And on the block. I would hope not.
- 9:29Speaker 5: I'm just saying, we not. So we can't fake that.
- 9:30Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And also, we work hard
- 9:32Speaker 2: for our money. So, you know, we not going to
- 9:34Speaker 2: be supporting anybody that's not, you know, giving us something
- 9:37Speaker 2: in return. So, yeah, we'll buy all of those things. But,
- 9:40Speaker 2: you know. You're going to have to support me too.
- 9:43Speaker 4: That's a fly way to say everything's transactional.
- 9:46Speaker 2: No, no.
- 9:47Speaker 3: But there is.
- 9:50Speaker 7: A bit of transaction in a partnership.
- 9:53Speaker 2: It is.
- 9:53Speaker 7: But not transactional in a way of like you have to,
- 9:56Speaker 7: you have to. But my next question was going to be,
- 9:58Speaker 7: what have you guys learned from? pandemonium days to now
- 10:01Speaker 7: about the transaction and partnership of relationships?
- 10:04Speaker 2: It has to be an agreement. Yeah. It can't just
- 10:07Speaker 2: be snatched out of the sky and you assuming because
- 10:09Speaker 2: of who I am that, you know, you getting with
- 10:12Speaker 2: my program and then like, you know, you not going
- 10:14Speaker 2: to have some directives. You know what I'm saying? I
- 10:18Speaker 2: think that for me, experiences definitely show me the importance
- 10:22Speaker 2: of having those conversations so we feel fulfilled in our
- 10:26Speaker 2: relationship um and no stones go uncovered and i'm confident
- 10:32Speaker 2: when i'm moving forward and if i do feel inspired
- 10:34Speaker 2: to want to get you something i'm not thinking like
- 10:36Speaker 2: oh well when she gonna give me something but i
- 10:38Speaker 2: am counting.
- 10:39Speaker 7: How many times she got before she you like yo
- 10:43Speaker 7: you ain't bought me nothing.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Well, I think it's the context of the gift because
- 10:47Speaker 2: if I see that it's thoughtful, I probably won't think
- 10:49Speaker 2: about it again because I'm not someone that's like super
- 10:51Speaker 2: difficult to please. I don't need a bunch of material things.
- 10:55Speaker 2: If you get my favorite thing I've seen on TV
- 10:57Speaker 2: that I like with my anime, I'm going to be like, damn,
- 10:59Speaker 2: my baby, she really considers me. You know what I'm saying?
- 11:03Speaker 5: She's paying attention.
- 11:03Speaker 3: Thank you. Facts. Mario and I here doing prepaid purchases.
- 11:07Speaker 5: That's crazy.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Buy now.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Buy now. I'm saying it.
- 11:15Speaker 5: When he get home, he's going to have that anime.
- 11:16Speaker 5: She's like, I heard you. You came up with the title, right, Mario?
- 11:21Speaker 3: Yes, Eclipse.
- 11:22Speaker 4: Eclipse is when one celestial body blocks the light from another.
- 11:26Speaker 3: What does that represent for B2K?
- 11:28Speaker 2: The light and the dark, and also us coming back
- 11:32Speaker 2: into the game. where maybe some things aren't highlighted as much,
- 11:36Speaker 2: the core of R & B, the evolution of a group.
- 11:39Speaker 2: We don't see a lot of transitions in successful artists
- 11:46Speaker 2: to the past. It's like a lot of the time
- 11:48Speaker 2: the game tries to tell you after you reach a
- 11:51Speaker 2: certain peak that it's over for you or that you're old.
- 11:54Speaker 2: And it's like that's really not true. You know what
- 11:57Speaker 2: I'm saying? You can begin anew. You can end something.
- 12:01Speaker 2: You can go in the darkness, you know, and you
- 12:03Speaker 2: can have just that small glimmer of light of what
- 12:05Speaker 2: Eclipse is, a rare, you know. Sighting. Yeah, sighting and cycle, cyclic,
- 12:13Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? So I'm happy that we,
- 12:15Speaker 2: like Raz said, was preserved in a way, and we
- 12:19Speaker 2: coming back to Eclipse today.
- 12:20Speaker 6: It's a rare occurrence, you know, and a lot of
- 12:22Speaker 6: our fans didn't think they were going to see it,
- 12:25Speaker 6: you know, so don't miss it.
- 12:26Speaker 3: I never thought I was.
- 12:27Speaker 4: Is there something about the old B2K that needed to
- 12:30Speaker 4: disappear for this new version to exist?
- 12:32Speaker 2: For sure. Yeah.
- 12:34Speaker 3: For sure.
- 12:34Speaker 2: And I think the experience is what changed that. You know?
- 12:38Speaker 2: The 25 years of experience. And we were able to
- 12:40Speaker 2: put all of that into this music. Yeah. Like you said,
- 12:44Speaker 2: this year, not this year, this time around, we were
- 12:47Speaker 2: able to fully indulge in creating this project and let
- 12:50Speaker 2: it come from a space of where we've been and
- 12:53Speaker 2: what we experienced.
- 12:54Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 12:55Speaker 2: We had a lot of help creating it. Sean Garrett,
- 12:59Speaker 2: Troy Taylor.
- 13:00Speaker 5: Lil Ronnie.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Ronnie, KP, Brownie Brown. Underdogs. Eric Bellinger. Did I miss anybody?
- 13:10Speaker 2: Ant Clemens. Ant Clemens, yeah. Ethos.
- 13:13Speaker 4: How do you convince your OG fans to embrace what
- 13:15Speaker 4: y'all doing today?
- 13:16Speaker 3: Because a lot of them, they just want nostalgia, right?
- 13:18Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes and no. I feel like they missed out. So, like,
- 13:23Speaker 2: Knowledge is the perfect record. It's top 15. You know,
- 13:26Speaker 2: God willing, it's going to get a Grammy. You know?
- 13:29Speaker 4: And.
- 13:30Speaker 2: What you call it yesterday? Nostalgia. Yeah, nostalgia. That's what
- 13:35Speaker 2: it feels like. That's what it feels like. Nostalgia. So,
- 13:38Speaker 2: they're not missing out. And also, we making the mark
- 13:41Speaker 2: for them to understand, like, yo, y'all, we still riding.
- 13:45Speaker 2: I think the conversation with, like, our OG fans is like,
- 13:48Speaker 2: all right, y'all, Keep on coming. You know what I mean?
- 13:51Speaker 2: Because we still got music. We still have performances. We
- 13:56Speaker 2: still got tours. There's still a life here.
- 13:59Speaker 5: Yeah, go in that closet and get the freaking dress
- 14:02Speaker 5: back out.
- 14:02Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
- 14:04Speaker 3: Okay.
- 14:04Speaker 5: If you need to, go get to the membership. You
- 14:06Speaker 5: know what I mean? Don't let yourself get old.
- 14:07Speaker 2: Go stretch. I'm just saying.
- 14:09Speaker 5: You know, hey, you got to break it down a
- 14:10Speaker 5: couple more times. I'm just saying, because I love you.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 14:13Speaker 5: Make your knees.
- 14:14Speaker 3: Touch your elbows. I don't even know how y'all could
- 14:16Speaker 3: make music for the audience that grew up.
- 14:18Speaker 2: Have you listened to that album yet? I haven't. What
- 14:21Speaker 2: track stands out to you?
- 14:21Speaker 5: I mean.
- 14:23Speaker 4: The mileage, of course. What was the Boyfriend record? What
- 14:26Speaker 4: was the one you was playing right before the Black Tuxedo?
- 14:28Speaker 3: It's nothing.
- 14:28Speaker 1: I'm outside. The one that's hard to know. Cosign.
- 14:31Speaker 2: Cosign.
- 14:32Speaker 1: Y'all, y'all real grown. Okay, no sign it's a little crazy.
- 14:37Speaker 3: But y'all never made kid music either, though.
- 14:39Speaker 2: That's true.
- 14:40Speaker 7: It wasn't kid music, but it was our age at
- 14:42Speaker 7: the time. But now when you listen to.
- 14:44Speaker 2: It, you can tell your age.
- 14:46Speaker 7: But you can tell your age then because we're older.
- 14:48Speaker 7: I think y'all are doing what we've known y'all to do.
- 14:50Speaker 7: It's just we've grown now.
- 14:51Speaker 5: Now you understand it.
- 14:52Speaker 2: Yeah, you understand it.
- 14:53Speaker 5: And you're living it.
- 14:54Speaker 7: Y'all are like, this is like a soundtrack of talking
- 14:56Speaker 7: through it, but then also you got a couple upbeat
- 14:59Speaker 7: records on here where you can kind of get ready
- 15:01Speaker 7: for whatever you're about to go do as.
- 15:02Speaker 2: Well, too.
- 15:02Speaker 6: Yeah, because back then, I don't know if y'all would
- 15:03Speaker 6: have understood if you got to change the sheets, that's
- 15:06Speaker 6: a cosign.
- 15:06Speaker 5: No, we wouldn't have understood. I don't know if they
- 15:09Speaker 5: knew about putting the towel down.
- 15:11Speaker 3: Right, right, right.
- 15:11Speaker 2: That's something you learn. That's actually the next single.
- 15:15Speaker 1: I know.
- 15:15Speaker 2: Yeah, that thing is, I like that. Yeah, shout out
- 15:19Speaker 2: to the underdogs. Shout out to the underdogs.
- 15:21Speaker 3: Mileage is about accepting somebody's whole face.
- 15:25Speaker 5: That's one way to look at it.
- 15:26Speaker 4: Knowing that everybody got a past, you know what I'm saying? But,
- 15:29Speaker 4: you know, life experience, it brings value. A lot of
- 15:32Speaker 4: people don't look at it like that.
- 15:33Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the metaphors. I mean, mileage and life, you.
- 15:37Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying?
- 15:37Speaker 2: Experience.
- 15:38Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 15:39Speaker 4: How much has your own mileage changed the way y'all
- 15:41Speaker 4: approach love and relationships?
- 15:42Speaker 5: You know we got a lot of miles over here.
- 15:44Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 15:47Speaker 5: All these miles and no answers?
- 15:49Speaker 3: I'll wait for one of them to.
- 15:51Speaker 2: Get in there. I would say my experience has given
- 15:58Speaker 2: me the appreciation and gratitude towards experience. You know what
- 16:02Speaker 2: I'm saying? And also the understanding of, like, you know,
- 16:06Speaker 2: when you mature, like, do you really want to be
- 16:08Speaker 2: a teacher your whole life? I think you have to
- 16:11Speaker 2: really be called to. usher people in and stuff like that.
- 16:13Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
- 16:14Speaker 2: And when you mature, you want to have some things
- 16:17Speaker 2: that are inherent in people that you interface with all
- 16:21Speaker 2: the time. Just like honesty and trust and shit. Like people,
- 16:24Speaker 2: when you younger, you play with that. You know what
- 16:26Speaker 2: I'm saying? You a little lie here, a little lie there.
- 16:29Speaker 2: I think that experience has shown me how important it
- 16:33Speaker 2: is to just like, you know, appreciate something that has
- 16:39Speaker 2: appreciated over time.
- 16:41Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 16:41Speaker 7: With the Today song on the project, it's a lot
- 16:45Speaker 7: more slower.
- 16:46Speaker 1: You guys are super, super, super singing.
- 16:49Speaker 7: Why that choice of song on the record? And what
- 16:53Speaker 7: does it mean for you guys as men to be like, yo,
- 16:56Speaker 7: I'm done, and really have all that emotion on that song?
- 16:58Speaker 3: I feel like they were talking to each other in
- 16:59Speaker 3: a way.
- 17:00Speaker 1: I don't know what y'all were.
- 17:01Speaker 2: That was actually the first record we played in the
- 17:05Speaker 2: studio when we came back to do the album. It
- 17:07Speaker 2: just felt like... a moment of history where we could
- 17:12Speaker 2: actually move on, reconcile, and heal.
- 17:15Speaker 3: Yeah, forgive and let go.
- 17:17Speaker 2: Forgive, forgive, and get some fucking hits done. That record
- 17:22Speaker 2: is crazy.
- 17:22Speaker 8: On top of that point, we was just talking about
- 17:24Speaker 8: that record outside, like just the emotions behind it.
- 17:29Speaker 2: It's a trip that we recorded first and other things.
- 17:31Speaker 6: Yeah, what it means to me is just like I've
- 17:33Speaker 6: moved on from the pain. I've moved on from the
- 17:37Speaker 6: things that I was holding against these guys or in
- 17:40Speaker 6: life in general. I've learned how to forgive. We never forget,
- 17:44Speaker 6: but that's also to the mileage point. What I've learned,
- 17:48Speaker 6: if I don't apply and move the right way based
- 17:52Speaker 6: off of what I know, then I'm going to repeat
- 17:54Speaker 6: the same things over and over again. That's insanity if
- 17:57Speaker 6: you think something's going to come out different from that.
- 18:00Speaker 6: For me today was me moving on and releasing the
- 18:03Speaker 6: baggage that I was carrying around because it was tormenting me.
- 18:06Speaker 6: Once I was able to forgive, then I can love
- 18:09Speaker 6: and have a good time with my guys because I'm
- 18:11Speaker 6: not sitting here with no premeditated agenda. I'm literally here
- 18:15Speaker 6: in all pure ingenuity, genuineness, you know what I'm saying,
- 18:18Speaker 6: to just love on my guys, you know what.
- 18:21Speaker 5: I mean, and have a good time.
- 18:22Speaker 3: And that was the first record that y'all recorded?
- 18:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:24Speaker 1: It's heavy.
- 18:27Speaker 3: It is. Y'all couldn't have recorded nothing else if y'all
- 18:28Speaker 3: didn't record today first. I don't think so.
- 18:31Speaker 2: Yeah, that song was like definitely speaking without speaking.
- 18:35Speaker 3: Right.
- 18:36Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
- 18:37Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:37Speaker 7: Were there any new feelings or conversations that came up
- 18:39Speaker 7: from you guys putting that song together?
- 18:43Speaker 2: I think a lot of our conversations amongst each other
- 18:50Speaker 2: is silence. It's not always like this big conversation. You
- 18:56Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? But I think it's like it's
- 18:58Speaker 2: what's understood.
- 18:58Speaker 3: Is that healthy though?
- 19:00Speaker 2: I think certain things need to be discussed. But when
- 19:04Speaker 2: you know someone so well, like, yo, like we. 12
- 19:07Speaker 2: years old. No, first of all, nobody had our experience.
- 19:09Speaker 2: The only other person that had our experience with us
- 19:11Speaker 2: was Bow Wow.
- 19:12Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Nobody else had our experience. So unless you was there,
- 19:17Speaker 2: you won't really understand that. understanding you know i'm saying
- 19:21Speaker 2: that's not always it's a look you know i'm saying
- 19:23Speaker 2: it's a feeling it's not always an explanation you know
- 19:27Speaker 2: i'm saying action behind that yeah.
- 19:29Speaker 6: We talked about that as five at about i was
- 19:31Speaker 6: like 13 we was like 15 we really took on
- 19:34Speaker 6: this industry you know like as kids.
- 19:36Speaker 2: Yeah in the environment you know and it.
- 19:38Speaker 5: Was five of us and we was rolling it's crazy b2k.
- 19:42Speaker 3: Remember we was having that discussion yesterday about that shit
- 19:44Speaker 3: Bow Wow said?
- 19:45Speaker 1: Well, no, it wasn't Bow Wow. It was Jadakiss's son, J-Won.
- 19:50Speaker 1: He has a podcast with CJ, Biggie's son.
- 19:53Speaker 7: And he said that Bow Wow was our generation's Michael
- 19:56Speaker 7: Jackson of hip hop. From like the kid star to
- 19:59Speaker 7: like remaining the celebrity in the fame of who he
- 20:01Speaker 7: is now.
- 20:02Speaker 1: I'll get the exact quote. But he was screaming at
- 20:04Speaker 1: me about that.
- 20:05Speaker 4: No, because I was saying Lil Wayne, Soulja Boy, but
- 20:08Speaker 4: now I'm thinking about it, B2K.
- 20:10Speaker 3: B2K is in that mix too.
- 20:11Speaker 2: No. I would personally say, and outside of, you know,
- 20:15Speaker 2: Bal just being, you know, a great friend of ours,
- 20:19Speaker 2: I would say he is the MJ. You know what
- 20:22Speaker 2: I'm saying? Because- You know, he set it off after
- 20:25Speaker 2: Criss Cross. It was a few other groups, but he
- 20:28Speaker 2: set it off for the kids. And also, he was
- 20:31Speaker 2: in the studio hanging with the dogs at the age
- 20:36Speaker 2: that's kind of like, you know what I mean? So
- 20:39Speaker 2: I feel like an artist that survives in this game,
- 20:43Speaker 2: it has to be purposeful. It has to mean something.
- 20:46Speaker 2: The connective tissues and the people, you know, and Bow's
- 20:49Speaker 2: journey is like that.
- 20:51Speaker 5: Let's be real.
- 20:52Speaker 6: When Bow came out, a lot of these guys that
- 20:54Speaker 6: are out right now, they was Bow outfits.
- 20:57Speaker 2: That's facts. Right, yeah.
- 20:58Speaker 5: If they would be honest, they were Bow outfits.
- 20:59Speaker 2: No, and a lot of them, that's what I want
- 21:00Speaker 2: to add to that too.
- 21:01Speaker 8: When I see Drake and I see a lot of
- 21:03Speaker 8: the OGs, you know, look out for Bow, show him
- 21:05Speaker 8: love and embrace him.
- 21:06Speaker 2: Yeah. That's incredible. That's how you, he's the next generation.
- 21:10Speaker 5: He made them want to do it.
- 21:12Speaker 6: Even if they didn't want to rap like him, he
- 21:13Speaker 6: made them believe that at that young age, they could
- 21:16Speaker 6: be a star rapper.
- 21:17Speaker 2: But he was hard. He was the dog.
- 21:19Speaker 5: He was hard.
- 21:20Speaker 1: It was the look.
- 21:21Speaker 2: It was the clothes.
- 21:22Speaker 5: It was the movies.
- 21:23Speaker 7: But he said Bow Wow came in as a child,
- 21:25Speaker 7: had grown women on his body, movies still selling out.
- 21:28Speaker 7: Bow Wow hasn't dropped an album of music in mad long.
- 21:32Speaker 7: And then he says, he announces things and they sell
- 21:34Speaker 7: out worldwide. Like no matter the trials or tribulations, Bow
- 21:37Speaker 7: Wow is Bow Wow. Just like Michael Jackson had trials
- 21:40Speaker 7: and tribulations.
- 21:41Speaker 3: When you say the Michael thing, like there is no,
- 21:42Speaker 3: Michael is different.
- 21:44Speaker 5: Let's stop this shit now.
- 21:46Speaker 3: Everybody.
- 21:47Speaker 2: Okay. You're right about that. No one should be comparing
- 21:50Speaker 2: themselves to Michael.
- 21:51Speaker 1: We don't have nobody. I think, not we. As a
- 21:54Speaker 1: point of reference. How do you describe what he's trying
- 21:58Speaker 1: to say?
- 21:59Speaker 5: It's iconic. You know what I mean? I say that.
- 22:01Speaker 5: Let everybody live in their own space of greatness.
- 22:04Speaker 2: It's so hard to do that.
- 22:05Speaker 5: Comparison is the thief of joy.
- 22:07Speaker 2: That's true.
- 22:08Speaker 5: When we have to talk about it like that, then
- 22:09Speaker 5: you have to make a choice.
- 22:11Speaker 6: When we just talk about how amazing his career was
- 22:15Speaker 6: and what he did for music and what he did
- 22:17Speaker 6: for us as child stars, opening up that, bringing a
- 22:20Speaker 6: whole audience of children that want to watch music and
- 22:23Speaker 6: be excited and go crazy.
- 22:24Speaker 5: Yeah. Man, just give him his flowers.
- 22:26Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
- 22:27Speaker 5: Don't compare him to Michael because nobody's going to be
- 22:30Speaker 5: able to.
- 22:30Speaker 1: It reminds me of the.
- 22:31Speaker 8: I just want to say this. I want to be
- 22:34Speaker 8: on record saying this. I think everybody should stop comparing
- 22:36Speaker 8: everybody to Michael. Michael went so far ahead of everybody
- 22:39Speaker 8: to prepare plays.
- 22:41Speaker 3: Just stop.
- 22:41Speaker 2: He's on a Mount Rushmore by himself.
- 22:43Speaker 8: When people make a reference to him, I get what they're.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Trying to say. Prince could be with him later.
- 22:48Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay.
- 22:49Speaker 6: But everything that everyone is doing... was inspired by Michael
- 22:53Speaker 6: Jackson and when my children five years old and six
- 22:57Speaker 6: years old see Michael Jackson and think that they want
- 23:01Speaker 6: to be Michael Jackson you're never going to be able
- 23:05Speaker 6: to get that That feeling is just something different.
- 23:08Speaker 3: My 11-year-old, 8-year-old, and 5-year-old moonwalking around the house.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Especially after the Michael movie, this new generation.
- 23:14Speaker 3: That's what happened to me.
- 23:16Speaker 5: I took them to see the Michael movie, and they
- 23:17Speaker 5: were Michael Jackson fans.
- 23:18Speaker 7: The Halloween costumes went so young this year with Michael Jackson.
- 23:21Speaker 7: All of the people going out to go see the movie, too.
- 23:25Speaker 2: Yeah, my son was definitely Michael, Billy Jean Michael. He
- 23:29Speaker 2: got me hype. I was excited. I got excited about Michael.
- 23:32Speaker 3: I want to go back to today real quick, right?
- 23:34Speaker 4: Which was harder, forgiving somebody else in the group or
- 23:37Speaker 4: accepting responsibility for your own mistakes?
- 23:39Speaker 3: Because all of y'all made mistakes.
- 23:42Speaker 2: I would say for me, in observing everybody's situation and perspective,
- 23:55Speaker 2: I feel like I was able to sit back and
- 23:58Speaker 2: not only accept my position, but also our dispositions. You
- 24:04Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? As young men, not really having
- 24:08Speaker 2: a lot of guidance or having people that were good influences.
- 24:14Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 24:14Speaker 2: Really taking pride in that.
- 24:16Speaker 5: Right.
- 24:16Speaker 2: Really taking pride in being like, no, I'm a fight
- 24:19Speaker 2: for y'all. You know what I'm saying? Or a real mentor. Yeah.
- 24:23Speaker 2: Real mentors.
- 24:24Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 24:25Speaker 2: So in hindsight for me, it was a little easier
- 24:30Speaker 2: for me once I got it. And I'm like, oh,
- 24:32Speaker 2: wait a minute.
- 24:32Speaker 5: Hold up.
- 24:33Speaker 2: This was his disadvantage. This was my disadvantage. This was
- 24:35Speaker 2: all of our disadvantage. Like, could I really be mad
- 24:38Speaker 2: at that? You know what I'm saying? Like, could I
- 24:39Speaker 2: really hold, you know, my bro to the fire like
- 24:43Speaker 2: that when now, you know, repeat offenders, that's different. You
- 24:48Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? But what we went through together, yeah,
- 24:52Speaker 2: I had to sit back. And once I understood that
- 24:55Speaker 2: it wasn't a lot of things weren't our fault, it
- 24:59Speaker 2: was easy for me to be like, all right, this
- 25:00Speaker 2: makes sense for me.
- 25:02Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 25:03Speaker 6: For me, I would say it was the self-evaluation because
- 25:08Speaker 6: I feel like as humans, we always feel that we're right.
- 25:11Speaker 6: Our opinions are what we lead with.
- 25:16Speaker 5: Mike said it, man in the mirror.
- 25:18Speaker 6: I had to look at myself and say, even if
- 25:21Speaker 6: I want to forgive him, why won't he forgive me?
- 25:26Speaker 5: It's because I'm.
- 25:27Speaker 6: Not accepting and changing based off of what I was
- 25:31Speaker 6: and what I'm trying to be. and more so to
- 25:33Speaker 6: just shorten it up, is I had to tell myself, bro,
- 25:36Speaker 6: you was.
- 25:36Speaker 3: Whack for that.
- 25:37Speaker 6: You was an asshole for that. Do you know how
- 25:40Speaker 6: you made him feel about what you did? You know
- 25:43Speaker 6: what I'm saying? You might have thought it was light,
- 25:45Speaker 6: but it was heavy to him. And that's where the
- 25:48Speaker 6: change happened with me, to where I was like, let
- 25:50Speaker 6: me start paying more attention to my friends if I'm
- 25:52Speaker 6: a real friend, opposed to being a bully or saying
- 25:56Speaker 6: that my way is the only way.
- 25:57Speaker 5: My thought is the right thought. How does that make
- 25:59Speaker 5: him feel? How does that make him feel?
- 26:01Speaker 6: And at that point, now I can appreciate who they
- 26:04Speaker 6: really are, opposed to being self-centered and thinking that it's
- 26:07Speaker 6: all about me. And so that conversation was hard. After that,
- 26:11Speaker 6: I was able to forgive because I forgave myself because
- 26:13Speaker 6: I was so fucking embarrassed at how I had behaved
- 26:17Speaker 6: because I never really looked at myself like that.
- 26:19Speaker 3: Wow. What about you, Fit?
- 26:23Speaker 2: Probably, I would say the public apology for me. During
- 26:29Speaker 2: that time, I just received so much negative feedback and
- 26:35Speaker 2: just people coming at me, just every angle, you know?
- 26:39Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, I know I'm wrong. And
- 26:43Speaker 2: when it was time to have that moment, Raz was
- 26:47Speaker 2: with me. I was scared. I was so scared, but
- 26:51Speaker 2: I was like, this is my time to forgive myself.
- 26:58Speaker 2: in front of everybody, you know? And then also try to,
- 27:07Speaker 2: try to like give people a better understanding of where
- 27:13Speaker 2: I was at, you know? And with doing that public apology,
- 27:17Speaker 2: I felt like everybody was able to just see he's
- 27:20Speaker 2: not really a bad guy, you know? And also being
- 27:24Speaker 2: that example for my son, um, Like, bro, when you wrong,
- 27:28Speaker 2: you wrong. You know? It's all right to admit it.
- 27:32Speaker 2: And being that I'm a public figure, it was right
- 27:35Speaker 2: to just do it in front of everybody. So for me,
- 27:38Speaker 2: that was the hardest part.
- 27:39Speaker 3: What about you, Ray?
- 27:40Speaker 2: What was the question again?
- 27:41Speaker 4: What's harder, forgiving somebody else in the group or accepting
- 27:43Speaker 4: responsibility for your own mistakes?
- 27:45Speaker 2: For me, it was both. Because the cards that I
- 27:48Speaker 2: would deal, right?
- 27:50Speaker 8: And I felt like I'd navigated the best way I
- 27:52Speaker 8: could and also try to survive, you know? but then
- 27:57Speaker 8: you have to walk around with what type of person
- 28:00Speaker 8: do you want to be?
- 28:01Speaker 3: Right.
- 28:02Speaker 2: And are you really doing the work?
- 28:03Speaker 8: Cause at a time in my life, I wasn't doing
- 28:04Speaker 8: the work and I wasn't getting the results that I
- 28:06Speaker 8: want or the respect that I wanted to get. And
- 28:08Speaker 8: I felt like my voice was being more muted versus
- 28:10Speaker 8: being amplified.
- 28:11Speaker 2: Right. Um, so, you know, realizing that I had.
- 28:15Speaker 8: To take the accountability, um, I felt like allow for
- 28:18Speaker 8: forgiveness to come my way and more grace because every
- 28:23Speaker 8: day I'm a work in progress, you know? So, But,
- 28:25Speaker 8: you know, I got my brothers and I got my family,
- 28:27Speaker 8: so they come together for me.
- 28:28Speaker 3: Yes, you do.
- 28:29Speaker 2: Yes, indeed. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to
- 28:31Speaker 2: my brothers because they really be there for me. You
- 28:34Speaker 2: know what I mean?
- 28:34Speaker 8: And I love that because that's something I feel like,
- 28:37Speaker 8: that's something like, no, real talk, there was a time
- 28:39Speaker 8: I didn't have that because I had to carry my
- 28:41Speaker 8: cross for a time, you know.
- 28:42Speaker 3: Before that.
- 28:43Speaker 4: When I hear, I don't know if it was Mario,
- 28:45Speaker 4: I don't know if it was Mario on the book,
- 28:46Speaker 4: when I hear you say that y'all didn't have no mentors, right?
- 28:49Speaker 4: That's like, damn, as young as y'all were, it felt
- 28:53Speaker 4: like all y'all had was each other?
- 28:55Speaker 2: We were in like... I know for me, I didn't
- 28:57Speaker 2: meet my pops until I was 13. I knew all
- 29:00Speaker 2: of them before I met my dad.
- 29:02Speaker 7: Wow.
- 29:02Speaker 3: Wow.
- 29:04Speaker 2: And my dad lives in a whole nother state from
- 29:06Speaker 2: where I was raised and where I grew up. So
- 29:08Speaker 2: I didn't really have that. I had older cousins and
- 29:10Speaker 2: stuff who were around and, you know, would tell me things.
- 29:13Speaker 2: But when I got around them, this is what it was.
- 29:17Speaker 2: It was just us.
- 29:19Speaker 3: So.
- 29:20Speaker 2: Everybody that was, per se, chaperoning us, they was just
- 29:26Speaker 2: there for the bread. They weren't there to like, are
- 29:29Speaker 2: you okay? What's wrong? Where are you right now? Nobody
- 29:33Speaker 2: did that for us.
- 29:34Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard enough trying to become a man,
- 29:37Speaker 4: I mean, become a man just naturally, but y'all had
- 29:40Speaker 4: to do that shit in the industry with no mentorship
- 29:42Speaker 4: yeah right no father figures that's great.
- 29:45Speaker 6: That's the statement of us five us and bow wow
- 29:47Speaker 6: we had to navigate this industry as kids in this
- 29:50Speaker 6: grown environment you know what i'm saying like wow wow.
- 29:54Speaker 2: Crazy yeah and i feel like that's why you know,
- 29:57Speaker 2: our position in this industry and in this business is
- 30:00Speaker 2: so powerful because it goes, it stretches beyond, you know,
- 30:04Speaker 2: the accolades and, you know, game of the music business.
- 30:09Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, it's so much deeper.
- 30:11Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, the first time we met,
- 30:13Speaker 2: you know, we got to do a biopic so we
- 30:18Speaker 2: can tell our story and y'all can really see that,
- 30:21Speaker 2: you know, we all came from different experiences and, you know,
- 30:26Speaker 2: Together we created something that even though we went through
- 30:30Speaker 2: all that we went through, we still honor to today.
- 30:33Speaker 2: And it pays us back.
- 30:35Speaker 4: Do y'all remember the first time y'all decided to stop
- 30:37Speaker 4: just being group members and become brothers?
- 30:41Speaker 2: No, we fought. We had to fight. I feel like
- 30:43Speaker 2: we had to fight through that. It's like proving of
- 30:46Speaker 2: the brotherhood. It wasn't just like, okay, because of the
- 30:50Speaker 2: way that we were separated when the group broke up. Like,
- 30:55Speaker 2: you know, the space didn't allow us to support each other.
- 30:59Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And that was something that
- 31:02Speaker 2: we spoke about, you know what I mean, when it
- 31:05Speaker 2: came to this project. You know what I'm saying? I
- 31:07Speaker 2: never felt supported by them. I don't know if they
- 31:10Speaker 2: ever even knew that I cared about that. You know
- 31:12Speaker 2: what I'm saying? So this time around, I got two
- 31:16Speaker 2: projects out. I got B2K and I got my solo
- 31:18Speaker 2: project out. And they support me. You know what I'm saying?
- 31:21Speaker 2: That was something that, you know, maybe... Ten years ago,
- 31:24Speaker 2: that wasn't even on my mind, you know, in a
- 31:27Speaker 2: full circle type of way that we're healing ourselves through
- 31:30Speaker 2: the art, through the act of performing, through the remembering
- 31:35Speaker 2: of choreography, that time. We spent, like how kids spend
- 31:39Speaker 2: their time in school, we spent our time in dance rehearsal.
- 31:43Speaker 2: In development, yeah. In development. And, you know, recording records
- 31:49Speaker 2: and trying to get a deal. You know what I'm saying?
- 31:51Speaker 2: That was our life, so... Drell said it best, and
- 31:53Speaker 2: he can elaborate on that feat. He said Jarrell.
- 31:57Speaker 3: No.
- 31:57Speaker 8: That's how you know he's about to get real.
- 32:03Speaker 2: That's my brother.
- 32:04Speaker 8: A lot of people don't know this, but, you know,
- 32:06Speaker 8: we was in the process of getting our deal. I
- 32:08Speaker 8: didn't know I was kind of, like, homeless, but I
- 32:10Speaker 8: actually was living with Jarrell and his mama for about
- 32:12Speaker 8: a good six months, you know what I'm saying?
- 32:14Speaker 3: Recently?
- 32:15Speaker 2: No, when I was a kid.
- 32:16Speaker 3: Oh, all right.
- 32:17Speaker 2: Recently?
- 32:18Speaker 5: Recently?
- 32:18Speaker 8: No, when I was a kid, but, like, Jarrell said it,
- 32:24Speaker 8: I mean, the book says it best when there was
- 32:26Speaker 8: a time where there's memories that we share during our
- 32:31Speaker 8: adolescent years, you know what I mean? That only we can,
- 32:36Speaker 8: you know, talk about or learn from, you know what
- 32:39Speaker 8: I mean? Because they were so important moments, you know?
- 32:41Speaker 8: Because I always wanted that support from my guys as well.
- 32:44Speaker 2: So I understood, I empathized with the old one. He
- 32:46Speaker 2: said he felt like he never had a support.
- 32:48Speaker 4: What does that look like, though? I think that's a
- 32:50Speaker 4: great conversation for men to have. What does support look like.
- 32:52Speaker 2: From Being there, showing up. What you got going today, bro?
- 32:58Speaker 2: I'm there. Yeah, emotional support. You good?
- 33:02Speaker 5: You need anything?
- 33:05Speaker 2: Simple as a, hey, my boy just dropped a single.
- 33:08Speaker 2: Let me repost that.
- 33:09Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it goes even deeper, too, as well.
- 33:14Speaker 6: I want to see them shine. I want to see
- 33:17Speaker 6: them do the best, be the greatest, that they could
- 33:21Speaker 6: possibly be. So I'm not going to watch him have
- 33:25Speaker 6: a hair out of place on his whole head.
- 33:27Speaker 5: You get what I'm saying? I'm not going to watch
- 33:29Speaker 5: him have a stain.
- 33:32Speaker 2: A crumb.
- 33:32Speaker 6: I'm not letting that slide.
- 33:36Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?
- 33:37Speaker 6: I want my guys to be perfect or as close
- 33:39Speaker 6: as possible to it because I love seeing them shine.
- 33:43Speaker 6: So I want to highlight their greatest assets. And when
- 33:46Speaker 6: they walk in those moments, I'm so proud.
- 33:48Speaker 5: I'm so happy. You know what I mean?
- 33:50Speaker 6: Because I really enjoy seeing them happy. I really enjoy
- 33:53Speaker 6: seeing them do what they love to do at the
- 33:55Speaker 6: highest level that they could do it at.
- 33:59Speaker 5: So I feel like that's support as well.
- 34:05Speaker 7: Well, I guess I can ask Razby about the NSYNC,
- 34:10Speaker 7: Destiny's Child, B2K. You said that people was asking for that.
- 34:14Speaker 1: Is that happening?
- 34:16Speaker 2: I believe Destiny's Child is going to go on tour.
- 34:18Speaker 2: I was just.
- 34:19Speaker 8: Speaking, it may be wishful thinking, but I truly believe
- 34:22Speaker 8: like a mega tour from like, you know, those particular
- 34:26Speaker 8: eras would just be crazy. You know what I mean?
- 34:29Speaker 8: Of course, I was putting B2K' s bit in it too
- 34:31Speaker 8: up in there.
- 34:32Speaker 3: Come on, man.
- 34:33Speaker 2: B2K did try. We did. B, if you listening, you
- 34:36Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?
- 34:36Speaker 8: Justin, if you listening and all the group members, I
- 34:39Speaker 8: hope y'all can figure something out.
- 34:40Speaker 2: Maybe it could be something just... Something just crazy. Maybe
- 34:43Speaker 2: y'all do it for the Super Bowl. Y'all even need them?
- 34:46Speaker 5: No, it's not about needing them.
- 34:48Speaker 1: It's just like the energy in that same chair.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Of course.
- 34:52Speaker 3: I just think it would be crazy.
- 34:55Speaker 2: I was just thinking of like a super... I told
- 34:57Speaker 2: him the other day that we.
- 34:59Speaker 3: He's so pro-black.
- 35:00Speaker 2: I told him.
- 35:01Speaker 1: The other day, was it Backstreet Boys or NSYNC?
- 35:04Speaker 2: It was one of them.
- 35:05Speaker 3: I don't know why you were talking about this.
- 35:06Speaker 2: Okay, so that's a tour.
- 35:07Speaker 1: It was Drake's birthday party.
- 35:08Speaker 5: Oh, that's right.
- 35:09Speaker 3: Backstreet Boys.
- 35:10Speaker 7: And I was like, Backstreet Boys was one of the
- 35:12Speaker 7: groups that we loved too. He was like, didn't nobody
- 35:14Speaker 7: care about Backstreet Boys. Maybe.
- 35:15Speaker 2: I didn't say that. We love all the groups. I
- 35:17Speaker 2: didn't say it like that. Okay, let's keep it pro-black.
- 35:19Speaker 2: That would be dope.
- 35:20Speaker 8: If it being God's will, it would be dope to
- 35:22Speaker 8: see Destiny Child go back on tour and B2K would
- 35:24Speaker 8: love to support that tour.
- 35:26Speaker 2: Yeah, fun fact. The first time we went to the
- 35:29Speaker 2: UK as a group, Destiny Child took us on tour.
- 35:32Speaker 5: So, yeah.
- 35:33Speaker 3: Really?
- 35:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 35:35Speaker 3: What did y'all learn from them? Because I'm really hung
- 35:37Speaker 3: up on the fact y'all ain't had no mentorship. Hard work.
- 35:39Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
- 35:40Speaker 2: I mean, when money's involved, things get gross.
- 35:43Speaker 1: Like people around, but the business is the business.
- 35:45Speaker 2: Things get gross when the money flow. Wolves.
- 35:50Speaker 8: They was protecting that bag, you know what I'm saying?
- 35:52Speaker 8: So it kept us in a bubble and kept us blind.
- 35:54Speaker 8: But as we got older and wiser, we had to grow.
- 35:58Speaker 7: Y'all said the business is different on this project. So
- 36:00Speaker 7: this time around, it's like y'all are fully writing. I
- 36:03Speaker 7: heard you say A & Ring. Ownership.
- 36:05Speaker 3: You said what? Ownership.
- 36:08Speaker 1: I was about to say, is this an independent situation?
- 36:12Speaker 3: Own that IP.
- 36:13Speaker 2: Own that IP. Hey, hey.
- 36:15Speaker 4: Y'all didn't have no control over your image, creative direction,
- 36:18Speaker 4: nothing back then, right?
- 36:19Speaker 8: We had some input, a little bit, right?
- 36:21Speaker 2: Literally. I would never take away the simple fact that
- 36:25Speaker 2: we were being developed. You know what I'm saying? So
- 36:27Speaker 2: there is a type of, you know, you know, support
- 36:32Speaker 2: and guidance that you have to trust in your team with.
- 36:35Speaker 2: But we were growing.
- 36:35Speaker 3: As a product, though. They're treating you more like a product. Yes. Yes.
- 36:39Speaker 1: But now you own the product.
- 36:41Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
- 36:42Speaker 8: You're your own commodity. Now you can exchange. The world,
- 36:43Speaker 8: there's nothing wrong with fair exchange, right? So it's now
- 36:45Speaker 8: that you can, I don't want to say pimp yourself out,
- 36:47Speaker 8: but you.
- 36:47Speaker 3: Can manage your own.
- 36:50Speaker 2: You can manage your own.
- 36:52Speaker 8: You can manage your own IP.
- 36:55Speaker 2: I'm my own hoe.
- 36:57Speaker 5: I'm my own hoe as well.
- 37:01Speaker 1: I was in L.A. for the Versus when y'all did it.
- 37:03Speaker 2: L.A.? Yeah, I was there.
- 37:06Speaker 1: I thought y'all were going to just talk about the
- 37:07Speaker 1: fun y'all had.
- 37:09Speaker 3: No, we did.
- 37:10Speaker 2: It was so much fun.
- 37:12Speaker 1: I was lit. It was a good time.
- 37:14Speaker 2: I was lit.
- 37:15Speaker 7: It was nostalgia on both sides. Seeing Pretty Ricky together,
- 37:18Speaker 7: seeing you guys together. I know the people gave y'all
- 37:20Speaker 7: a hard time afterward, though.
- 37:24Speaker 8: That's why we agreed to be in the arena with them.
- 37:26Speaker 8: We know, Jerrold can tell you best, their music is
- 37:29Speaker 8: different than our music. But still be able to give
- 37:32Speaker 8: them their flowers as well. People always try to pair
- 37:34Speaker 8: them up. against us, but we're totally different groups, completely.
- 37:37Speaker 8: And I love what they do and people love what
- 37:39Speaker 8: we do, but if anybody's saying anything bad about Beach Gang.
- 37:42Speaker 2: It's crazy.
- 37:44Speaker 6: And I love the Versus platform and shout out to
- 37:48Speaker 6: them for giving us the opportunity to do that, but
- 37:51Speaker 6: I just don't like the fact that they make everybody
- 37:53Speaker 6: choose or they try to set it up for a
- 37:56Speaker 6: loser when you got.
- 37:59Speaker 5: Two major bands are on stage through all their trials,
- 38:05Speaker 5: because Pretty Ricky got a story. You know what I'm saying?
- 38:08Speaker 5: All our trials, because B2K got a story.
- 38:10Speaker 6: You got them in one place, you know what I'm saying,
- 38:13Speaker 6: for the world to enjoy their catalogs, you know, the
- 38:16Speaker 6: history of their groups, and you want to make it
- 38:19Speaker 6: who won, or you want to make, oh, they did this,
- 38:21Speaker 6: or they up one to zero.
- 38:23Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
- 38:24Speaker 6: Like, you're losing the whole idea of why we did it,
- 38:26Speaker 6: and that was for us to go song for song
- 38:28Speaker 6: to bring you back to the moments that you enjoyed
- 38:31Speaker 6: and recreate those memories for you to live.
- 38:33Speaker 5: In it again And at the same time say, damn,
- 38:35Speaker 5: they all still here. Damn, they all still look good. Damn,
- 38:38Speaker 5: this is amazing.
- 38:39Speaker 6: We never thought we was going to get that. So
- 38:41Speaker 6: we feel like it was a win, man. We love
- 38:43Speaker 6: Pretty Ricky. We talked to him just a couple days ago.
- 38:45Speaker 6: People might think it's a beef there, but it's not.
- 38:48Speaker 5: It's all love, you know what I mean? It's 20
- 38:50Speaker 5: years in the game for both of us.
- 38:51Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will say, you know, the internet is undefeated, so...
- 38:56Speaker 2: you know, if it look like you losing or winning,
- 39:00Speaker 2: that still might not be the truth. It might be
- 39:02Speaker 2: funny and it's serious.
- 39:04Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
- 39:05Speaker 2: Yeah, like.
- 39:06Speaker 6: Yeah, because right now, Mal is just top 15.
- 39:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 39:10Speaker 4: What did that experience teach you about how much people
- 39:12Speaker 4: still value your catalog, though?
- 39:17Speaker 2: I feel like it taught me that, you know... If
- 39:21Speaker 2: you look in the future or if you have an
- 39:22Speaker 2: idea what the future could look like, you never know
- 39:24Speaker 2: what type of platforms will create itself to give you
- 39:29Speaker 2: another opportunity. to have a type of peak growth in your,
- 39:33Speaker 2: you know, in your IP. Because again, you know what
- 39:36Speaker 2: I'm saying? We couldn't tell the future. We didn't know
- 39:38Speaker 2: we would be back together. We wouldn't know we were
- 39:40Speaker 2: putting out an album. That wasn't in the plans. But
- 39:43Speaker 2: guess what? It was in the plans. You know what
- 39:45Speaker 2: I'm saying? So I think for me, you know, I
- 39:47Speaker 2: take things in stride and I always just try to
- 39:50Speaker 2: put forth you know, a great performance. We always try
- 39:53Speaker 2: to put forth a great performance. And I feel like
- 39:56Speaker 2: with Versus, you have to constantly reintroduce yourself as artists.
- 40:01Speaker 2: You know, you have to constantly evolve. And that's really
- 40:04Speaker 2: just what it was, another evolution peak. And sometimes, you know,
- 40:08Speaker 2: for the audience of certain people, it's just a little rough.
- 40:11Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? But guess what? We're going
- 40:13Speaker 2: to still transform and we're going to be here because
- 40:15Speaker 2: we're a legendary group. We're here. You know what I'm saying?
- 40:19Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting because all of y'all are fathers now, right?
- 40:21Speaker 4: When your children look at the history of B2K, including
- 40:25Speaker 4: all the conflicts, the controversies, what do you.
- 40:27Speaker 3: Want them to learn from it?
- 40:29Speaker 2: Never give up. Fuck what they talking about. What's your goals?
- 40:33Speaker 2: Why are you here? What's the purpose? Focus on that.
- 40:38Speaker 5: That's what I would say.
- 40:39Speaker 2: And as a man, it's okay to heal. You know,
- 40:42Speaker 2: it's okay to cry.
- 40:44Speaker 3: Straight up.
- 40:45Speaker 2: We in New York, so I would say I came,
- 40:47Speaker 2: I saw, I conquered. Yeah.
- 40:49Speaker 8: What about you, Book?
- 40:53Speaker 5: If you hear no, that means next option.
- 40:55Speaker 6: You know, if I could make it make sense as
- 40:59Speaker 6: far as like a player aspect in sports, you know,
- 41:02Speaker 6: you an all-star, but you might just not be on
- 41:03Speaker 6: the right team just yet.
- 41:05Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
- 41:05Speaker 6: So, like, how you say, Shea Gildress, you know, when
- 41:09Speaker 6: he was at the Clippers, he was one thing.
- 41:11Speaker 5: Now, he's a, champions over there. You know what I mean?
- 41:15Speaker 5: So just keep going. Keep at it. Don't give up.
- 41:17Speaker 6: Just because one person may not see the vision for
- 41:20Speaker 6: you doesn't mean that the vision is not there to
- 41:23Speaker 6: be fulfilled.
- 41:24Speaker 5: Facts.
- 41:25Speaker 4: Have any of your kids asked you something about the
- 41:27Speaker 4: group's past that was difficult to explain?
- 41:29Speaker 5: Heck yeah.
- 41:30Speaker 6: What they asking?
- 41:34Speaker 2: That's crazy. What they asking?
- 41:36Speaker 5: Well, I mean, it wasn't difficult.
- 41:37Speaker 6: It was just, I got boys, and these fools is clowns, man. So,
- 41:40Speaker 6: you know, they go back to some old shows, and
- 41:43Speaker 6: then they go into the new shows, and they're like, Dad,
- 41:45Speaker 6: you out there.
- 41:46Speaker 5: Dwerking, man. Like, what you doing, bro? Like, what? I'm like, bro,
- 41:50Speaker 5: this is what I do, you know? I'm the master gyrator,
- 41:52Speaker 5: you know? Oh, you be doing this?
- 41:54Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They didn't understand that.
- 41:56Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? You still doing it for
- 41:59Speaker 1: the fans.
- 42:00Speaker 5: Yo, dad, they at school frying you, bro. You know
- 42:02Speaker 5: what I'm saying? I'm like, it's all good, you know?
- 42:07Speaker 3: What about you, kid? Have your kids asked you anything? Nah, nah.
- 42:12Speaker 2: My son, no.
- 42:13Speaker 3: He ain't ask you about twerking yet or nothing?
- 42:15Speaker 5: Because he don't.
- 42:16Speaker 2: He don't twerk. He be chilling.
- 42:18Speaker 1: He hit a little one-two and.
- 42:19Speaker 3: Then, you know.
- 42:20Speaker 2: My son just is fully into sports. He barely watch.
- 42:25Speaker 2: He just saw you got served like two years ago.
- 42:28Speaker 2: Finally got him to sit down and watch.
- 42:30Speaker 3: He was like, oh, yeah, you, that was cool, Dad.
- 42:32Speaker 3: What's up?
- 42:33Speaker 5: The Laker game on?
- 42:34Speaker 3: I be like.
- 42:35Speaker 5: He don't give a fuck about me.
- 42:38Speaker 3: And Raz, condolences too, brother.
- 42:40Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, brother.
- 42:41Speaker 3: Yeah, condolences. I should have said that from the beginning.
- 42:44Speaker 8: No, I don't walk around with a sympathy. I wanted
- 42:46Speaker 8: to honor my son's life. His name was Astro Monte Thornton. And,
- 42:50Speaker 8: you know, he was here to be a blessing and
- 42:52Speaker 8: keep me going, keep me inspired. But one quick little testimony.
- 42:55Speaker 8: It's pretty dope because I see they have their older kids.
- 42:59Speaker 8: My very firstborn actually called me today. We were celebrating Astro.
- 43:03Speaker 8: Shout out to the boys for pulling up to the,
- 43:04Speaker 8: to the celebration as well. They flew out to Atlanta
- 43:06Speaker 8: and support me or whatnot.
- 43:08Speaker 2: So that was big.
- 43:09Speaker 8: So now I got a 20 year old that I'm
- 43:10Speaker 8: building a relationship with, which is a blessing.
- 43:12Speaker 2: Oh, amazing.
- 43:14Speaker 4: Have this experience taught you anything about grief that you
- 43:16Speaker 4: didn't understand before?
- 43:18Speaker 8: Um, still going through the process, but it's just, yeah, I'm,
- 43:23Speaker 8: I'm learning. There's, there's six different, you know, phases. And, um,
- 43:27Speaker 8: but when you lean into your family and my wife
- 43:29Speaker 8: and my brothers and I'm staying active and busy and yeah,
- 43:32Speaker 8: I'm learning a lot. We all got to transition one day, right?
- 43:35Speaker 8: So being able to reflect and be intentional about my
- 43:39Speaker 8: movements and my decisions, you know, will definitely affect my legacy.
- 43:43Speaker 2: And, you know, now that I got.
- 43:45Speaker 8: A 20-year-old and I still got a 2-year-old and I
- 43:47Speaker 8: got a 13-year-old, I get to, you know, learn how
- 43:51Speaker 8: to continue to be a great father.
- 43:53Speaker 2: It's rough though at days.
- 43:54Speaker 6: I salute you, brother, because, I mean, you showed me
- 43:58Speaker 6: another level of strength, you know what I mean?
- 44:00Speaker 5: And being a real stand-up man Because when.
- 44:04Speaker 6: It all happened, you know, we all were up for
- 44:07Speaker 6: you taking whatever time you needed, you know. But you
- 44:12Speaker 6: looked at it from a different perspective and used it
- 44:15Speaker 6: as fuel, you know. And just to see you be
- 44:19Speaker 6: able to get through this, you know, we here, you know.
- 44:21Speaker 6: But I want to say this publicly, bro, we love you.
- 44:23Speaker 6: You know what I mean? And we ain't going nowhere.
- 44:26Speaker 5: You feel me? For real.
- 44:27Speaker 2: Appreciate y'all. Late too.
- 44:29Speaker 3: That's beautiful, man. Listen, B2K.
- 44:32Speaker 2: Yes, indeed.
- 44:33Speaker 3: The new album, Eclipse, is out November 6th. Yeah.
- 44:36Speaker 2: All right?
- 44:37Speaker 5: Yes.
- 44:37Speaker 4: What does success look like for y'all when it comes
- 44:39Speaker 4: to this album?
- 44:45Speaker 2: More shows. More hoes. No, I'm joking. No, I'm joking.
- 44:50Speaker 3: You want more mileage.
- 44:51Speaker 2: Listen.
- 44:52Speaker 1: I'm joking.
- 44:55Speaker 5: I love everybody.
- 44:58Speaker 2: No, but definitely some tours.
- 45:02Speaker 3: What?
- 45:02Speaker 2: Probably another movie. You know, biopic. We got to do
- 45:07Speaker 2: a biopic.
- 45:08Speaker 3: Stadium, a Grammy.
- 45:10Speaker 2: It's a deep story.
- 45:11Speaker 8: A Grammy, finish up the movie. But I do want
- 45:14Speaker 8: to say this respectfully. The album is already successful. We've
- 45:17Speaker 8: already sold over 100,000 pre-orders on our previous tour at
- 45:23Speaker 8: a top dollar. So we are building this business model
- 45:28Speaker 8: that we have within touring.
- 45:30Speaker 3: And y'all in it, right?
- 45:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 45:32Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
- 45:34Speaker 7: The video y'all put out, too, is crazy. It's only
- 45:37Speaker 7: been out a couple months. I think it's Mileage video, right?
- 45:40Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 45:40Speaker 1: Yeah, I was looking at that earlier.
- 45:41Speaker 5: I'm like, whoa.
- 45:42Speaker 2: It's a good record. Like we said, the clips, a.k.a.
- 45:46Speaker 2: no skips. But it's been a pleasure. Thanks for having us, bro.
- 45:48Speaker 3: I do have one question. I want all of y'all
- 45:50Speaker 3: to answer this, right?
- 45:52Speaker 4: If B2K had never broken up, do you believe you
- 45:55Speaker 4: would have become a bigger group? Or did the separation
- 45:58Speaker 4: ultimately make you better men?
- 46:01Speaker 2: That's a great one. Want me to start that? For sure.
- 46:05Speaker 3: Definitely.
- 46:06Speaker 2: You want to go with it, boo?
- 46:07Speaker 5: I know what I'm going to say.
- 46:10Speaker 3: Okay.
- 46:11Speaker 2: Well, I was just going to say definitely. You know,
- 46:14Speaker 2: nothing happens on accident. And, you know, I look at
- 46:19Speaker 2: life from the perspective that every obstacle I face and
- 46:24Speaker 2: overcome is for my highest good, for a deeper understanding,
- 46:28Speaker 2: and also to anchor myself in my purpose and not
- 46:32Speaker 2: just be doing things aimlessly. You know, so it ultimately
- 46:36Speaker 2: made us the masters of our destiny, because it was
- 46:40Speaker 2: no reason for us to come back together. If you
- 46:43Speaker 2: looked at, you know, all of the things that we've
- 46:45Speaker 2: been through, you know what I mean? But when you
- 46:47Speaker 2: actually look at it, you know, you really know what
- 46:50Speaker 2: we've been through and what we've experienced. It made so
- 46:53Speaker 2: much sense that it would, you know, recoil in the
- 46:56Speaker 2: universe and come back. and create an eclipse.
- 47:00Speaker 3: See what I did there?
- 47:00Speaker 2: I like that.
- 47:01Speaker 5: I like that.
- 47:02Speaker 2: See what I did there?
- 47:03Speaker 3: Now you got to do that every time.
- 47:05Speaker 5: Shoot, bam. I'll say it had to happen, bro.
- 47:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 47:10Speaker 6: The reason why it had to happen, in my opinion,
- 47:14Speaker 6: if you were there when it was like getting close
- 47:17Speaker 6: to when it happened, we were getting more money, we
- 47:21Speaker 6: were gaining more fame, but we were getting out of control.
- 47:24Speaker 3: Wow.
- 47:25Speaker 6: And sometimes too much is dangerous for you, you know?
- 47:29Speaker 6: And I don't even know, like, literally, if all of
- 47:32Speaker 6: us would still be above ground.
- 47:34Speaker 5: That's fact. You know what I mean?
- 47:36Speaker 6: With all of that that was coming in. We just
- 47:39Speaker 6: told y'all, we was out there by ourselves.
- 47:42Speaker 5: We was sitting there, 17, 18, four, five cars, bank crazy.
- 47:48Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? Like, we were getting wild.
- 47:50Speaker 5: We were kind of losing... The whole formula.
- 47:53Speaker 6: In a sense, of wanting to be in rehearsal as
- 47:56Speaker 6: much as we were when we first started.
- 47:58Speaker 5: Wanting to be at the studio. Some people ain't showing up.
- 48:01Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
- 48:02Speaker 6: Some folks is going rogue. Like, it was getting bad,
- 48:06Speaker 6: in a sense. And the world couldn't see that. And
- 48:08Speaker 6: I think that if it would have went to a
- 48:09Speaker 6: three million, to a diamond type album, and now you got... 30,
- 48:13Speaker 6: 40 million in the bank.
- 48:15Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? Like, could it destroy you?
- 48:17Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 48:18Speaker 5: As opposed to help you. You know what I mean?
- 48:20Speaker 5: So I feel like it did need to happen because
- 48:22Speaker 5: it was kind of getting scary.
- 48:24Speaker 2: Yeah. I'd say the same thing. It definitely needed to happen.
- 48:28Speaker 2: I feel like if we'd have put that third album
- 48:31Speaker 2: out back then, it would have been successful. But one
- 48:35Speaker 2: thing we all wanted when we were younger was longevity
- 48:38Speaker 2: in this. So I feel like it would have been successful,
- 48:42Speaker 2: but short-lived. So that gap in between disbanding and coming
- 48:48Speaker 2: back together, we all got a chance to grow as men, mature,
- 48:51Speaker 2: experience life, and then come back into a better space
- 48:55Speaker 2: and understand the brotherhood.
- 48:59Speaker 6: And let's go out there and win. We should appreciate this.
- 49:01Speaker 6: We were definitely taking it for granted after a while.
- 49:05Speaker 1: Raz?
- 49:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have to agree. It definitely made me
- 49:07Speaker 2: a better man.
- 49:09Speaker 8: I count all my trials and tribulations a blessing because
- 49:13Speaker 8: You know, it depends on what type of life you want.
- 49:16Speaker 8: I know what type of life that I want for
- 49:17Speaker 8: myself and what type of man I want to be.
- 49:19Speaker 8: So I'm going to keep working towards that.
- 49:21Speaker 2: So definitely.
- 49:22Speaker 3: Word. It's B2K. Go pre-order that album, man. Eclipse right now.
- 49:26Speaker 3: It comes out November 6th. Thank y'all for coming, bro.
- 49:28Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 49:28Speaker 4: It was a great conversation.
- 49:31Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club. Oh, my God.
- 49:35Speaker 1: Hold up.
- 49:36Speaker 2: Every day I wake up.
- 49:37Speaker 3: Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club.
- 49:40Speaker 2: Y'all finished or y'all done?