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AM800 CKLW Monday Roundtable with Dan MacDonald, Jon Liedtke, Irene Moore Davis, & Serena Ellwood · Kvetch & Release

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Well, hey, good morning and welcome back. It's Dan McDonald. Thank
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you so much for tuning in. You're listening to the Dan McDonald's show.
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Happy Monday, everybody. Wow, what amazing weather we had to beautiful weather
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for April. This word is gonna have to bust out the print song sometimes
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it snows in April and haven't had to do it knocking on wood yet.
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And I think we're here. I think we're finally into full spring mode.
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I'm seeing buds on the trees and everything's getting green, beautiful, beautiful weekend
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and lots of great weather to come to. I want to welcome a round
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table joining us in studio from Black Women of Forward Action, Irene Moore Davis,
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Irene, good morning, good morning. By the way, I want
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to give you congratulations to on your Alumni Award for Equity, Diversity and Inclusion
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from the University of Windsor. Very very cool, very well deserved too.
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Thank you. And I want to give you congratulations on your Saint Claire College
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Alumni Award of Distinction. Well I think you look at us both distinct distinct
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alumni. I love it, but yeah, congrats, well deserve and then
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you can see it we're in bow ties right now. Yes, yeah,
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from five to one to nine culture. No stranger to the show or the
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round Table. Serena Elwood, not to be confused with Serena Ryder Serena,
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good morning, Good morning, Da. Great to have you on as always,
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At last, but certainly not least, hosts of Rose City Politics,
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one of the OG roundtable members back from back in back in the day four
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years ago, a host here on AM eight hundred CKLW as well John Lidky,
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John, good morning, good morning, back in the VID days.
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Yes, back yeah, Cod, back in the COVID. That's when it
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started, wasn't it. It was a phone like week three or four of
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COVID. You were like, how about we just talk every Monday about the
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world. And I was like, it's be a lot of statistics. Yeah,
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it sure was. It definitely was different times for sure, but great
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to have you on as always. John. Uh So, this is an
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interesting one. It's a newspol question. We'll start off with a light one
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today. Do you prefer to drive or fly when traveling? For king?
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And there's an article that was linked to this survey. It was a survey
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that was conducted by Handai, and that revealed a strong preference for car travel
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among Americans, and I'm curious to know how if this is the same a
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monkst Canadians. Survey findings highlight several reasons for this preference, convenience, flexibility,
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sense of freedom associated with traveling by car. For me, I would
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add in severe irrational phobia of airplanes. That's why I choose the road trip
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overflying. But for a while there too, especially coming out of the pandemic.
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I went to New York City and we drove, but a friend of
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mine was flying and they said, well, I'll be there in an hour
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and a half. Enjoy your ten hour ride. And there was such a
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mess at the airports when things were opening up. We actually arrived there before
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they did, and we drove to New York and they were still three hours
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later. They were delayed almost twenty four hours, and it was this crazy
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thing. So there's that too. But car travel, they say, offers
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greater flexibility in terms of departure times, routes and freedom. How about you,
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the newsporpt. Do you prefer to drive or fly when traveling or for
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vacations? Are you a big traveler? I Rene, I am a big
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traveler, and I mean it depends where I'm going. Yeah, of course,
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the fact is, and hate me if you want to. Most of
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the good parts of Canada are too far apart to drive too, So yeah,
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to fly, it's true. I mean, I would say it's really
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a combination deal. Unless I'm going somewhere like New York City where it hurts
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to have a car and they're going to charge you a large amounts of money
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and you can have widely available, easy to use public transportation. I'm going
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to fly somewhere and then rent a car typically because I don't tend to just
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stay in the downtown of an area. I tend to go out to the
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little museums and historic sites and all those things and see all the little places
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that I've heard about. So I definitely need to have wheels wherever I go.
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But I don't like to drive super long distances. No, I mean,
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I don't mind it for me. We just kind of wane. Also,
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I think I've infected him with my phobia of airplanes as well, so
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he prefers road trips too, So we just kind of incorporate. If it's
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a longer road trip, well we'll stop here at the cool attraction on the
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way to New York and kind of make that part of the trip. But
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there's gonna be places I'm just unless I get on some meds, like Lisa
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Williams is always asking me to do. When it comes to flying, I'm
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just never going to see a lot of parts of the world because you just
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have to fly to them. You know. I'd love to go to California
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one day. You could drive, I guess, but be a heck of
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a road trip. It would be. I think of all the local color
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you would see along the way. Exactly right back in twenty twenty two,
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mister Davis and I took an epic road trip to the East Coast, which
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he had never done before. I had as a child, so I was
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reliving my trauma. But you know, it was like twelve or thirteen days
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or something. We like, took our car. We were just getting out
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of COVID and it was wonderful to experience that way. But I'm not doing
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it again, no, I hear. Yeah, that's a lot. No.
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I've done the Nova Scotia one too. It's a it's a heck of
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a road trip. Serena, how about you do you are you a big
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traveler? First of all? Yeah, actually I'm going to Vegas on Saturday,
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really April twentieth. We're leaving three and a half hour flight. If
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I'm not mistaken, Yes, yes it is. But with the time difference,
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we kind of end up that's right, you lose the Yeah, you
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go. Yeah, yeah, it cancels each other out almost. But I
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was thinking about this. We've we've traveled all different kinds of ways, and
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you know, with kids, without kids, that changes that yeah big time.
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Again, like trauma, I don't think I would do certain certain trips
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again. But now we kind of have a knack of flying and bringing just
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that personal item on there pack, you know, just the essentials. It's
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ease and a breeze to just kind of get on and get off. But
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there's a lot of planning going into it. And you're right, you know,
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when you have your own car and you do the driving, Yeah,
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you have a cooler, you have your own space. So again, yeah,
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it just depends on the situation where you're going. There's different comforts,
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agree, yeah, for sure. But yeah, has anybody flown set like
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have Are things getting better with airports and whatnot? Now, like I'm so
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out of touch with with airports that I haven't been to one since two thousand
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and nine? Is it? Is it better and more efficient now than it
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was? Kind of? I have my nightmare story pre COVID with airlines and
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I'm not going to say which one, but just terrible. Lately. We've
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flown a few times since COVID and it's been okay, but not nothing crazy.
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I mean Florida, okay, yeah, which is a pretty quick flight.
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Yea, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, Vegas and Florida two places
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I've flown to actually, so yeah, a little bit, John, Are
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you a big traveler? Not a huge traveler. But I'm not gonna be
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boxed in by this question, Dan, especially especially by the likes of Hyundai.
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You have a financial motive to show that people like cars more than playing.
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I like trains now to listen, via rail has a lot to desire
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because it is unreliable and they charge you for weight, which makes no sense
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because we're already on the ground. Gravity doesn't get different while we're already down
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here. But there's something that's just so nice about being on a train and
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you've got a couple hours and you're just looking out the window and there's a
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bar cart and they don't seem to tell you to stop at the bark kart
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and you get those little nuts and like, you know, some kind of
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like a Blase fish dish. But there's something really nice about just I think
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I've described a train as the only thing good about it is the fact there's
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a bark card. But I like trains a lot. You know, in
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a car, you're confined. You get the autonomy of being able to choose
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where you want to go, but like, I don't want to be driving,
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like I want to be driven somewhere. I think planes are nice,
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you get that the quickness of it. But if I could choose between a
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good train or a fast plane that sounds like a bad song stuff, I'd
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go with the train every year. You Tracy Chapman right there, Yeah exactly,
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But no, I'm I don't know. I'm are you okay fly Are
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you an okay flyer too? Do you get nervous or anything? I'm fine.
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The last time I was on a plane, I went to London,
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England, and when it started going up like like the you know, take
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off, I did start to freak out just a little bit because it was
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just like, oh, there's like a roller coaster. And then the next
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thought was there's no tracks. Exiit. I'm like, there's wings, they
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don't flap. This thing weighs how many times? Yet it floats in the
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air, Like to be what what magic voodoo is making this thing fly?
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So the incline, the takeoff for me is the worst part. Like I'm
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good up in the air, but that take off to me, I'm just
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like, well, nice know and everybody it's terrible to think that way time
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though. Every time I fly, I'm like, well, I'm either gonna
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live or die. Like literally, Mom, already on the plane, let's
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go efficiently, right. My mom said that to me. She's like Dan,
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She's like, if it's your time, it's your time. She's like,
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go enjoy life. Like I don't know. Usually that's my stance on
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things, But I don't know why it's so hard to get on a plane.
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For me, It's like, that's why Dan gets in a car.
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That's why I'm with Hyundai here on this one. It's real hard to drive
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to Costa Rica. Yeah, I will find a way, but yes,
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we're gonna come back on our round table and talk a bit about pedestrians.
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This is an interesting conversation. I was talking with Mike and Lisa about this
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on the Crossover. Do pedestrian always have the right of way? We'll come
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back with a round table. I read more Davis, Serena Elwood, and
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John Lydkey don't go away. Well, Hey, good morning, and welcome
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back. It's Dan McDonald. Want to welcome back to a round table as
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well. John lid Key, host of Rose City Politics and host on here
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on amid hundred clw from five to one to nine cultures, Serena Elwood and
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from Black Women of Forward Action. I read more Davis, pedestrians. Do
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pedestrians always have the right of way? I mean, if you asked me
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that question, I would say yes, of course, But there are some
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misconceptions. There was an article in the Globe and Mail talking about misconceptions about
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pedestrian right of way. Many like me assume that we do. But there
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are pedestrian responsibilities too. And I noticed this is something I've always noticed.
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I noticed it on Erie Street and I love going to Erie Street, but
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I will see this happen where people will walk out in the middle of the
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road, like not at a light with traffic coming and just like put their
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arm out in the stop like position, and like it's like, okay,
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I guess I have to stop. Like I didn't know you could do that,
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but I guess you can. I would now do that, and that's
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stop the name of position. Yes, totally that position. And it's just
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like and other people don't even do that. They just cross, whether they
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have a red light or it's just they're in the middle of the road and
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hopefully everyone is paying attention and stops. But I don't know. Here's the
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question. I yes, do pedestrians always have the right of way? And
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is this something that we're getting worse at, like not following the rules of
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the road drivers and pedestrians your thoughts? Do they always have the right of
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way? Are we getting a bit reckless? No, pedestrians do not always
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have the right of way. Now, of course, if someone walks out
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in front of my car, I'm going to do my very best not to
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hit them, because you know, I'm in a car and they're a person.
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But you know, there are laws that we have to we have to
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follow. There are crosswalks, there are places where you cross at the light,
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not in the middle of the block, right, and you know,
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you wait until traffic is cleared and all of that stuff. I think that
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you know, what we don't see a lot of as far as I know,
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is a lot of pedestrians being ticketed for the irresponsible things that they do.
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But a pedestrian can cause an accident, and you know, we I
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think we need to follow the rules of traffic. Well, you know another
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pet peeve of mine this is kind of on the driver and the pedestrian side.
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If a two lane street no with with with both ways, one car
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will stop mid road to let a pedestrian go with the other lane doesn't realize
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is a pedestrian, and then that person is stranded the middle of the road
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and everyone has to stop. And I thought, a car, why did
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you stop to let them go? You have the right of ways the car
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they can they can cross when it's safe and be you just kind of put
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that pedestrian in danger by saying, oh, go ahead, cross, like
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you can't speak for the other oncoming traffic lane exactly. And I want to
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be clear, I'm talking about human pedestrians Canada. Geese totally has the right
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of way yes, they I bowed down to the Canada goose. They do
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they can do the stop of the name of love, and I will absolutely
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for sure. Serena. How about you, I know you have a daughter
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who is learning how to drive and whatnot as well. What have you have
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you been noticing anything on the roads. Yeah, we were at the mall
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last week and driving right in front of Metro there and people just straight up
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walked right in front of our car. No, no head up, no,
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not even like alert that the fact that oh we're here and I drive
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a red car, so not blending into any you know, environment around us.
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Yeah, I've noticed that, But I think what I especially because I've
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been teaching my kids how to drive, this is the second one going through
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it now. And if there's sidewalks or anything like that, assume that anybody's
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gonna walk out at any time. There could be a child or an animal
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I mean hopefully not a goose, but or any other animal. But yeah,
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and if there's no sidewalks or anything like that, if you're on the
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expressway, you know, probably you're not gonna be slowing down for a pedestrian
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if they decide to walk in front of you. They're not gonna have the
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worrndfway on the expressway right right, Yeah, so yeah, maybe situational,
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I know where you're at. Yeah, No, it's it's something I've noticed
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on Erie Street, just like that, the stop of the name. I'm
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gonna call it the stop the name alove now. But it's it's like I
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wish I had the confidence to do that, but I don't. I always
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wait until it's clear to go. I always wonder has anyone ever gotten a
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ticket for jaywalk? For? Actually scared of getting you walking ticket? But
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I'm downtown, I know there's cops around, Like I'm going to the corner,
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yeah about getting what are you in for? I was Jaywalkinglet Avenue.
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Yeah, John didn't now. John Leakey, when he sat down at the
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roundtable this morning before went on area, said Dan, I was listening to
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this morning the crosswalk, and I just said out loud, we live in
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a society purportedly, I know you have thoughts on this. Yeah, so
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I was. I'm I'm out of red and I'm listening to you talking with
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Mike and Lisa about this very topic, teeing it up as we say,
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and I go to turn right and there's people that are waiting for the light
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to turn green, but I've got the red of the right on a red
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to turn right. They just stepped forward to people and they just stopped on
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the streets. And they weren't quite in the kurt like in the gutter,
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so they were in front of the gutter and they were just standing there but
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not in a safe No, they were on the road and they weren't crossing,
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and they were both looking at their phones on the road waiting for it
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to turn green. So it's not quite a jay walking story. It's maybe
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just a j story. They haven't done the walk yet. It was just
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a jay It's like it's infuriating because like I'm the kind of person when I
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go for a walk downtown too, and like I'm at the police station,
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like not that I'm there often, but like when I'm walking because the jay
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walking, I'll wait for the light to turn green to cross when I'm walking
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in front of the police. What the guy at the desk runs out,
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we got one, Well, they got a rookie. And it's just like,
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I mean, I get it. You're a pedestrian and you feel like
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and when I'm a pedestrian. I feel far more empowered than I do when
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I'm driving and getting mad at the pedestrians. But like the situation, like
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you said, Serenatte, like the metro there at the mall is such a
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perfect example that one stretch, Yeah, just windly walk out. They don't
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care you've got to stop. And it's just like I'm getting to a point.
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I used to have an old Auga car horn. Oh when I was
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a little kid. It was great, and it was so loud, and
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it was primarily used for pranking and suspecting people. It's like it's been sixteen
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years, so I can get away with saying this now, but like now
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I want to get it back, just for the people who are like walking,
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Yeah, they're like ooh, So for all of you who just heard
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that sound, it's a lot louder than that. Well, I know.
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And I love infrastructure for having walkable neighborhoods, walkable communities, bike infrastructure.
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I'm a huge advocate for that too. So it does it irks me in
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a different way when I see pedestrians like acting the way they shouldn't be,
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because it's like it gives people foughder to say see pedestrians and bikers act like
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there's no rules, and it's like no, no, the majority do follow
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the rules. But you do see that one person who's riding their bike recklessly
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and that's what gets in the news. And a pedestrian who's walking out,
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Yeah, somebody said, somebody said a pedestrian was hit into come see January
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twenty twenty three. Very said, and they were charged for not following signs.
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Wow, And that's when I think you hear about jaywalking and people doing
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that getting getting tickets when they cause an issue and it was them who might
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have not had the right way and been in the wrong and you shouldn't have
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been crossing at that point, that's when you get the ticket, I think.
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But yeah, it's something that you seek and I do think really courtesy
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right with drivers and pedestrians, just be courtesy of others. To quote John,
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we live in a society. Society. Yeah, when we come back,
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we're going to talk a bit about nursing and long term care workers,
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holding an information picket ahead of bargaining and more on a roundtable this morning with
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Irene Moore, Davis, Serena Elwood and John LIDKEYT don't go away. Well,
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hey, good morning and welcome back. It's Dan McDonald. Thank you
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so much for tuning in and welcome back to our roundtable as well from Black
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Women of Forward Action, Irene Moore Davis from five to one to nine Culture
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Serena Elwood, and from Roe City Politics AM eight hundred CKLW. You can
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check them out at the cavetch. Is it the cavetch dot com? John
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John? I like, can that just such a ring to it? Though
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someone already had I presume another jew there you go. Appropriation. Well,
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yeah, it's legit, it's fair. That's the reason why I actually canvetched.
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Well, it's a good word. Covetch. I like it, canvetch.
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What are you convention about now? Well, here is something that's going
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on. I think this is very very important. We had a good conversation.
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You know, we talk about this almost a couple of times a week,
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almost every day. Sometimes long term term care workers holding an information pick
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it ahead of bargaining. UH. The Ontario Nurses Association their members head into
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talks with companies that have reported record profits in recent years on the backs of
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staff and vulnerable residents, and the Ontario Nurses Association said in a release,
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members are looking for better staffing ratios equal wages with hospitals in order to retain
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experienced staff in the long term care sector. Uh and yeah, I get
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it. I mean this is a job. My hat is off to these
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people who do this kind of work. It's work that I wouldn't be able
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to do. But I did a callin show not long ago, and we
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had a bunch of long term care and PSW workers call in, and many
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of them said, you know what, I'm gonna go wait tables because I'll
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make more money, I have better hours, it's easier work. And even
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though it's my passion to do this, I had another person call in who
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said they will go home crying because they have so many patients to take care
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of and they just can't physically get to all of them. And people who
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do this, I think, you know, you have to have something in
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you that wants to care for people. And when you leave your job feeling
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you didn't fulfill that, and you're that's your job. I can't imagine what
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that what that does to you. But but your thoughts, your thoughts on
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our situation right now, I'm seeing some sides on social media to saying,
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Oh, they just want more money, but I don't know, shouldn't we
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give them more money. This is a really important job and all of us
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are heading in the same direction. Long term care is pretty important. We
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might not need it now, but when we need it, we're gonna need
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it. Your thoughts on the on onna members and long term care workers,
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We'll go back around. Well, John, we'll start with you this time.
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Well, look, we know that for people that are in long term
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care, they often have to rely on family members to be caregivers to come
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and do the supplementary stuff that's necessary, which goes to show that there's already
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a staffing issue that you're relying on loved ones. God forbid, someone doesn't
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have a loved one, they end up in a long term care facility.
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What happens in that situation? Right right, Having said all that, they're
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going into bargaining, and you know, good for them, and I respect
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their right to bargain, and I think that they should be able to get
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as much as they all deserve. This is a pr stunt more than anything
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else. They're getting this out in front of the public. I think that
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focusing more on the government itself because government is the organizer of the group that's
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able to regulate the amount right staff that you have working at any given time,
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what the minimum level four wages would be. All of these things are
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set by the government. So will inherently I recognize that they're going into bargaining
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with the employer and that is a place where you're able to fight for collective
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gains. I would look at the easier fight to be with the government and
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let them wear it on their face, quite frankly, because it is the
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government that has decided to, you know, do quite frankly, there was
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the most recent move where we're seeing people in long term in hospitals getting shifted
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to long term care facilities because often outside of their own cities because they've put
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in that penalty, the fine or the four hundred dollars the day. Yeah.
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So, I mean, we all recognize that we're dealing with a crisis
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here in our healthcare system. And it's not unique to Ontario. It's across
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Canada, and quite frankly, all healthcare systems are seeing a strain. But
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we're going to continue to see a strain if our workers don't feel valued or
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if they continue to exit the industry. Yeah, I agree, And what's
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the incentive to go into the field and what's and what's going to keep them
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there as well? And I think part of it is some of the demand
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students to kind of go over this the demands improved ages, better working conditions,
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increased staffing levels. That was the number one that I heard from folks
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who called in who work in this field saying, I just want extra hands
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to help me out and help me do my job, and enhance safety measures
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as well. Serena, your thoughts on this one do you think do you
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think they'll have the public support on this? I think so. I think
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everybody has been touched by somebody who's been in long term care or knows a
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PSW has one in the family. They work very, very hard. I
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agree with everything John was saying as well. You know, the government needs
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to do a better job of maybe opening up the books and looking at the
21:33
hard costs and being honest about how much you know, we can pay people.
21:38
I mean, we do this for doctors, we do this for nurses,
21:41
We did it with teachers and ecees. So and you're right, Dan,
21:45
we're all heading in that direction too, which makes me nervous. I've
21:48
seen some really great facilities, and I've seen some terrible facilities. I don't
21:53
know. I think about it too as a job where you do have choices
21:57
as well. You can work for in the private sector, you can work
22:02
you know, in the public sector. You know, if you don't like
22:04
your job as a PSW right now, maybe look for a different one.
22:07
If you're not getting the pay that you want. Those are easy. Kind
22:11
of sadly that might be what it is, right, It's like maybe just
22:15
you know, not constantly like harpen on the government or your employer, right,
22:19
but they do deserve a lot they do deserve a lot more and a
22:23
lot more help because it's it's so emotionally straining, physically straining. You know,
22:30
how do you expect these people to have a career of twenty five years
22:33
in the same industry That would take a lot, oh, physically straining.
22:37
That's a huge thing that the physical toll it takes on people. And what
22:41
you said to you know, if you don't like where you are, look
22:42
for a new job. Absolutely. My only fear is, you know,
22:45
everyone going to private and you need a certain amount of money to afford the
22:49
private ones. For the good care. So what does that leave the other
22:52
group of people. Yeah, that's my fear with it, and it Yeah,
22:56
just there should be some kind of standard of care. And right now,
22:59
from the sound of it, from the worker perspective, it sounds like
23:02
the demands are there because the standard isn't being met. That that's my interpretation.
23:06
You can look at it as like put it on ourselves. You know,
23:07
maybe we need to put in a better plan to have our children set
23:11
up to take care of us. Or if we don't have children, you
23:14
know, like they did back in the day, or they still do,
23:15
you know over in Europe, Like that's just you move in with your children
23:18
when you get to a certain point. So instead of relying so heavily on
23:22
the government to fund all of this and organize it for us. Yeah.
23:26
Who was on the show, Yeah the Zone Netflix documenting. Yeah about how
23:32
about how they deal with aging and exercise and health and it's more of an
23:36
organic approach and the way they treat elderly and it is more of a move
23:40
in. I mean not everyone can do that. That. We talked about
23:41
that last week as well. Marians. Yes, it's something like that.
23:45
Yeah, it was so fascinating with all the leaps and bounds too. We
23:48
were talking this the other day, the life expectancy. I mean, it
23:52
used to be what seventy five I think in my lifetime, and now you
23:56
see more and more people celebrating their one hundred and fifth birthday, their one
23:57
hundredth birthday. People live in well in their nineties and one hundreds, which
24:02
didn't really happen all that often has happened a lot more right now. So
24:04
the longer term care is going to be a lot longer than it was before,
24:07
for sure. So yeah, yeah, I mean your thoughts on this
24:11
one. This is a cheery topic everyone, but an important one, right,
24:14
We really should talk about this? Well, yeah, I mean the
24:15
more side of my family are clearly part vampire or something because they do not
24:19
die. So my too, my keep Britner family, same thing, yeah,
24:25
same thing. I mean legitimately, as someone who has an aging parent,
24:29
a number of aging family members that I care about, and who was
24:32
you know, gradually aging herself as we all are, right, I do
24:38
have to say this is very frightening, and as I have been spending more
24:42
time in long term care facilities visiting family members and people from my church and
24:48
things like that. I've realized how strained this system is, and I see
24:53
in the eyes of staff members that I encounter just this exhaustion, this depletion,
25:00
this level of moral injury. That's very heartbreaking. And I don't want
25:03
us to get to a point where the people who are the most caring and
25:06
the most perfectly suited for this work are the ones who are exiting the profession
25:11
or going elsewhere, and we're left with whoever the heck is going to be
25:15
willing to stay in a place that doesn't meet the needs of patience, right,
25:19
So we've got to find a way with you know, you know,
25:22
very very obviously, with our aging population, we need to be putting more
25:27
resources into this. It's just a fact. And I really hope that the
25:33
nurses and healthcare workers will be bargained with compassionately and realistically in terms of what
25:41
it takes to keep good people in these roles. I think that's really important
25:45
and necessary. And you can really tell the good places from the not so
25:52
good places when you spend just a little bit of time even visiting a long
25:56
term care facility. And we definitely need to make sure that we've got more
26:00
of the good places staffed by people who really want to be there, who
26:04
have the desire to serve patients and do their utmost. And we don't want
26:08
to be chasing those people out of the profession. So let's figure out how
26:11
we do that. I feel like we're spending some money on things that we
26:15
could divert to this. Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely good. Yeah. And
26:18
someone just texted in saying saying, it really is up to the government to
26:25
change how we treat our elderly. A lot on them, a lot of
26:29
the parents too, a lot on the kids. John, you were going
26:32
to add something just to pick up off of I think sort of what everybody
26:34
has been saying here, Irene. Most recently, I think to situations where
26:40
I've had a family member who has been at end of life, and the
26:45
support that you receive and the care and the consideration from such attentive and lovely
26:51
caregivers. In situations like that, you're inherently completely helpless. There's nothing that
26:56
you can do. You have to just sort of give your self over.
27:00
And these people are truly like angels agree and they just they hold you and
27:06
they hug you, and they take your hand and bring you from where things
27:11
are bad to when they get worse, and then when things get better,
27:15
you look back on those incredible people and ough like I would never go into
27:22
that. I couldn't. I couldn't a special person. Yeah, and the
27:25
idea that you have those special people that are increasingly I mean, I've spoken
27:29
with some on the phone here at the station, nurses specifically, who have
27:32
said, I quit and now I'm working at you know, Chili's or something
27:36
because I can make eighteen bucks an hour and I'm getting them tipped. And
27:41
the worst thing that I have is maybe someone tries to grab my butt or
27:44
something. But it's not the same as patients yelling at me or trying to
27:48
hit me, or family members that are attacking, or terrible work hours and
27:52
conditions. So I fear if we do chase away all those better angels that
27:59
we have of the situation of what it would really be like, and I
28:03
think of it personally and just how helpless I've been at those times, and
28:07
just how incredible those people are. Yeah. Well, you know, and
28:08
now more than ever two with the population, the baby boomers getting to that
28:11
age where they're entering into long term care, I think in the next couple
28:15
of years, we're going to see it. This is as good as it's
28:18
going to get for right now, and it's going to get a lot.
28:19
Any issues we have now, we're gonna get a lot worse down the road,
28:22
I think in the next couple of years, which is very scary.
28:25
One more text here somebody said, and this is a dose of reality from
28:27
somebody who works in the field. They said, many children don't want to
28:30
care for their parents. I am a registered nurse in the community and I
28:33
see it firsthand, and there is an increasing problem with elder abuse, which
28:37
is really sad to see. But they would know better than anyone else,
28:41
and that's very true, and an ideal world, we would take care our
28:44
film members, but a lot just don't. And demographically, we just don't
28:47
have the common situation of everybody has children that can take care of right people
28:52
move away people are there are children that are non existent. A lot of
28:56
us chose not to do that. So I mean, I just want to
29:00
say in closing, you know this, this isn't an US versus them argument,
29:04
like this is going to be our problem very soon, all of us.
29:07
I'm sorry, I hate to tell y'all, but y'all get an older
29:11
No, no, I know for reasons I can't. I was recently checking
29:17
out retirement homes, not rest homes, not to long term care facilities,
29:19
but retirement homes. And I went into one in particular in this town,
29:22
and they were playing depeche Mode and Tears for Fears, and and I had
29:26
like a crisis. Okay, I was in crisis. I was texting my
29:30
friends saying, why are they playing good music in here? I'm not ready
29:33
for this. You put on Buddy Holly right now. It shruggered me to
29:40
think, oh my gosh, this is going to be me one day.
29:44
Well, can you give me the number that place. I'll go to the
29:45
home that place depeche Mode and in excess, I'm down for that. That's
29:48
my kind of place. I need that place. We're going to take a
29:53
really quick break. We will come back with our roundtable. I read more
29:56
Davis Serena, Elwood, John Lydkey, don't go away, Hey, good
30:00
morning, and welcome back. It's Dan McDonald. Thank you so much for
30:03
tuning in. Welcome back to our roundtable as well. I read more Davis
30:07
Serena, Elwood, John Lidkey and quick time for this quick hit here,
30:11
I read a list ten signs. You might be the neighborhood menace, or
30:15
you might have a menacing neighbor. Bright security lights I can confirm, I
30:18
can speak to that. The apartment building behind me. It is so obnoxiously
30:23
bright. It's like the sun, the sun coming in my window, but
30:26
at after nine pm. So annoying. Unkept gardens, large sports flags is
30:33
one of them. Car parts are old vehicles scattered on the lawn. Excessive
30:37
bird feeders. We've done entire hours on the excessive bird feeder issue. Excessive
30:42
or I'd love to see this inappropriate lawn furniture. I'm not sure if that's
30:47
just a couch on the front what that would be inappropriate lawn furniture. I
30:49
have a vision in my mind of what that might look like. Stray animals
30:53
kind of hovering around wind chimes is a big one. Over the top holiday
30:57
decorations doesn't bother me. That's just like if it's year round, maybe we
31:03
haven't yeah, stands on the reindeer or singing Christmas carols in July, we
31:07
have an issue, but that doesn't bother me as much. Abandoned projects is
31:10
a big one. But do you do, you have you taken any steps
31:12
to keep the peace of neighbors. How's your relationship with your neighbors. Mine
31:15
is really good. We're not tight friends, but we're all we're all cool
31:18
with each other. I will confess we have in our in our little area,
31:22
we have one neighbor behind our house that all of the rest of us
31:26
gang up on. But it's for good reason, Like we actually the other
31:30
neighbors talk about it's my turn to call the city because you know, like
31:33
the yard it was, it's so uncamped, it's so awful. They just
31:36
have no clue, and they've been there for years. I feel like they
31:38
should have figured it out, but I now, you know, we take
31:41
turns they haven't, and they're listening. They might put it to you now.
31:45
We actually the other neighbors coordinate with each other, are like complaints to
31:48
the city and stuff. It's so sad. But I have to say,
31:52
the worst neighbors I ever had were these people that played Celine Deon non stop,
31:56
day and night, to the extent that I now have like a aging
32:00
Selene's on allergy. All their foll I know she's a national treasure. I
32:06
can't listen to her. It's all because of those people. Oh, that
32:07
would be very that would be a huge thing for me too. It's bad
32:10
musical taste and it's blasting. That would not be good. And it was
32:14
like the power of love eighteen times in a row. Oh, that's a
32:19
lot of Yeah, that's a lot of Selene right there. There was no
32:22
one I could really call about that, you know, you know law,
32:25
Yeah, the bad music police or something or just excessive. Yeah, Serena,
32:30
your your thoughts on the neighborhood situation, how's your relationship so kind of
32:35
piggybacking you were just saying about the neighbors and the music. My parents actually
32:40
had neighbors that they were feuding and they would play like raunchy rap music extremely
32:49
loud. Yeah, and there is a bye law you can only do that
32:53
until a certain point in the night. So, I mean, there's nothing
32:59
else you can do during the day. Now they're just going to play the
33:00
music. But personally, when I lived in Amhersberg and in a beautiful neighborhood,
33:06
I had the best neighbors. The kid across the street cut my grass.
33:10
My neighbors on the other side, you know what, we would shove
33:14
each other's driveways and I would share my raspberries and they would bake banana bread.
33:17
It was so wonderful. And now that I live in the county,
33:20
I just have one neighbor and they are literally my husband and I in twenty
33:24
years, Like we're the exact same. We help each other, they fix
33:29
our car, We take care of their pets when they're gone. It's so
33:31
nice. And we always joke about, oh my gosh, if one of
33:35
us, ever, you know, moves, what's going to happen? You
33:37
know who would live next to us? And that's just terrifying because we have
33:40
it so good right now. Yeah. Nice, love that. Love hearing
33:43
that, and I will we'll do a plugged into John your thoughts on the
33:45
neighborhood situation. Being a good neighbor, you know, for the most part,
33:49
like as long as what you're doing isn't affecting my life, Like it's
33:52
your property, it's your land, have at it now. Having said that,
33:55
if there's like excessive lights that are coming into my place or noise at
33:59
night, I'm grumpy and you'll probably be hearing from me. Not partial to
34:04
all of the the f Trudeau flags that I'm seeing around if only because of
34:07
like there's one really cool, cool house around here that has like the best
34:13
Halloween decorations and the best Christmas decorations and a giant six and a half foot
34:19
F. Trudeau flag. And it's just like, so this is what we're
34:22
teaching kids like this, like that's the plan now. So like I mean,
34:24
whether it's you know, F. Trudeau or FIV or whatever, like,
34:29
it's just like I'm not a fan of that either. Whoever, keep
34:31
your politics verbal, yes, sit down with someone and be like, let
34:36
me explain to you in this nuanced essay that I've put together why I have
34:39
feelings against the current elected officials that we have. But that's expected. It
34:45
blows when you dislike a politician, like you said, whether it's Paulyiev,
34:47
whether it's Trudeau, and to have a flag with their name on it in
34:52
my house, I wouldn't want that. I don't want their name in front
34:55
of my heart in my yard. It's just I was warked next to a
35:00
truck the other day, well the other week, now, everything's the other
35:04
day. But they had an F Trudy bumper sticker because the U had come
35:09
off, and I was like, what a truity ever do Trudy Truty is
35:14
innocent in all of this. Yeah, I love it. We always end
35:19
with a plugged in segment. You can plug anything you like. We'll go
35:22
back around. I read what would like to plug in? This morning?
35:24
Windsor, Essex people, The Janes Walk Festival is coming up. It is
35:29
such a great festival every year, thanks to Sarah Morris and everyone who organizes
35:32
that. You can go to Windsorjaneswalk dot ca A. Jane's Walks are just
35:37
free citizen led walks around a neighborhood. You can you just register for free.
35:43
You can learn all about your neighborhood or another neighborhood, art, culture,
35:47
history, plants, whatever the content expert is talking about. It's great.
35:52
So it's happening April twenty six to twenty eight's in the county and May
35:55
third to the fifth in Windsor and to come see and I highly recommend it.
36:00
I'll be doing a couple of Black history walks. But all of the
36:01
walks sound really great. Oh great, love that. Yeah, it's a
36:04
wonderful festival and I'm glad you plugged that one. Thanks so much. Serena.
36:07
What would take to plug in this morning. Well, of course five
36:09
one nine Culture dot Ca. You know, if you're a professional looking for
36:13
gifts for your clients, look me up. I help you out. Natural
36:16
Pathways Forced to Nature School. We're doing a rain barrel fundraiser, so if
36:22
you're interested in collecting some rain water and you know, watering your yard and
36:27
plants and being eco friendly that way, you can check out their website at
36:29
Naturalpathways dot Ca. And Purple Vixen Beauty and I are hosting a sip and
36:35
swap. Oh yes, it's in Ahmersburg. It's this time. Sorry Dan,
36:39
Well you can come too, but it's a women's events for women's clothing.
36:44
This time we had to niche it down a little bit. It's April
36:46
twenty eighth, from one till five. Basically, what you do is you
36:50
come out, you bring fifteen items of clothing or accessories, and you donate
36:55
them to the event. We put them out in ice racks, display everything
36:59
and everyone gets cheat. It's to shop and you get to pick, you
37:01
know, from other people's closets and bring home treasures that are new to you.
37:05
And it's kind of an eco friendly way of very cool, you know,
37:07
networking sharing clothes. I mean, we all have things hanging in our
37:10
closet that we just don't want to wear again but are great. So that's
37:14
a yeah, happening April twenty eighth. It's a Sunday, and anything that's
37:17
left over after the event, we're going to be donating, and any proceeds
37:22
that we collect, because there's five dollars per person goes to the Ambers purg
37:24
Mission. So phenomenal. It's in a full circle. It's going to be
37:27
really great. That's fantastic, great, great having you on last, but
37:30
not least, John, what would like to plug in today? Listen to
37:32
Oursity Politics, you should listen to Coveection with John lid Key, and just
37:39
be good. Just be good people. That's my shout out because we all
37:43
can be those better angels that I was talking about earlier, and it's incumbent
37:46
upon all of us to try to do so. I love that. Thank
37:49
you so much everyone, great roundtable today. I read more Davis, Arena
37:52
Elwood and John Lidkey more on the way. Keep it here. It's the
37:53
Dan McDonald's show on AM eight hundred