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89: Sister Wives - When The Going Gets Tough (S18E5) · Reality TV Cringe

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Do you appreciate us? That's my main question. I want to make
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sure you a bridihead, how you love us? All right? Before we
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get into our episode, we want to cover a few items of light gossip
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like that would be okay, first and foremost, did you know what?
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Buttra what that? Christine made a passive aggressive post about Cody on Instagram.
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This is what she said. It was a picture of her and David Woolley,
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her very handsome sixty year old man. Yeah, and she said,
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I'm excited to be marrying David Woolley. He loves spending time with me every
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day, doesn't play games with my heart, and wants me to be me
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Hashtag grateful, hashtag soulmate. She's so bitter about Robin and Cody being soulmates
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hashtag no playing games, Yes, bitch bitch hashtag love my life. I
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just love it because we see it in the episode that we just reacted to.
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She's coming out, guns blazing a bit. Oh, she really is.
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She is not holding back at all. She is calling Robin out.
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She is mad in this episode. I'm a living for it. I'm living
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for this passive aggressive bullshit on Instagram because you know that Cody and Robin,
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even though they're not active on anything, they are keeping track. They are
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looking at all of Christine's posts, you know, yes, and you know
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they're looking at all the comments of what people are saying about them. This
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is why Robin changes her eyebrows in the tel all of last year's season.
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She's gotten the feedback. Yes, she's checking, she's looking online. If
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Cody's not, it's definitely her. Do you think that Cody and Robin are
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watching the episodes along with us, because clearly Christine is, which I love.
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She's one of us, Christine one of us. Yeah, But do
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we think Robin and Cody are watching along with us? They might if they're
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narks. I don't know, they might to see how they're coming off.
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I wonder if some of these shots that we're seeing have been prerecorded from last
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year, and so TLC is doing us a favor, yeah, and splicing
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them in and making Cody and Robin look really bad. That might be what's
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going on. Maybe. I mean, they're already they already look really bad,
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so it's not like very much, it's very obvious. But TLC is
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definitely putting shit in. I think. I think so. I think they
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could go a bit farther, like when they are lying to us to our
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faces, they could then splice in a scene from what they're lying about,
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right, that would be even better. But they haven't gone that far yet,
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No, they haven't. But they are doing God's work. I don't
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love I'm living it shit all right. I also have a Reddit spotlight that
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I wanted to share with you. We love the reddits, Yes we do.
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This was written by Sweaty Pie, not Sweetie sweaty Pie eight four four
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seven, and it's entitled has Robin been jealous of Christine? This whole?
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I love? Here's how it reads, okay. Robin's Christmas tantrum revealed that
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not only is she really angry r I l y angry, but also extremely
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jealous of the relationship Christine has with the o G three kids. Robin wants
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to be the nucleus. She sees her house and her kids as the center
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of the family, but as Mary pointed out, the majority of the kids
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go where Christine goes. All this time, we've been seeing how Christine's jealousy
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is a result of Cody's unequal time, but Robin's been seething with jealousy about
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Christine's relationship with the older kids, the ones who rejected her and only ever
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saw her as a stepmom that no one asked for. The angry Christmas rant,
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which we'll talk about in this pod, was totally directed at Christine and
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the kids who dared to get together for the holidays outside of her and Cody.
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That's a very interesting theory and ideas to totally see that being her reasoning
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for sure, especially being jealous of like the motherly rule that Christine's kind of
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been put in. I mean, she's been raising a lot of these kids
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a lot of the time, she's been cooking for them and homeschooling a lot
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of them, and like Janelle has been motherly too, but she was working
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a lot of the time. In the earlier seasons. But I wonder if
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that's what Robin's jealous of, Like she wants to be the mom. She
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wants to be the favorite wife, right, she wants to be the favorite
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mom. She wants to be the favorite in general, the center of wants
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to have the big family vibe, and Mary even talks about it in tonight's
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episode because Mary references how the older kids were around at a time when they
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had big family functions and big family celebrations, and Robin came into the family
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with her kids and then had two more and was hoping that that same vibe,
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that same energy would be there for Solinari and it's not. Of course,
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somebody threw a bomb in the center of this family and it's exploded in
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that somebody is Robin and Cody. But so that's why she's jealous because she
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wanted that, But she also wanted to be the center of that totally.
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She wanted her house to be the nucleus, which is what a lot of
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people are saying on Reddit. And I don't know if I agree with that.
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She wanted her house to be the nucleus. Will get to that,
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yeah, But the fact that Christine can effortlessly draw in the children. Yeah,
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and that the children want to be with her. And also Janelle,
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I'm sure that chaps her high. Baby. It just makes her feel like
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she is not liked at all, and that's her biggest issue. That's why
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she takes everything fucking personally. That's why she takes Christine getting an extra month
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or two in Vegas personally, and it's like, well, I didn't get
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to see Cody for that time. I don't think she took that personally.
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I think she put Cody up to that. What do you mean she would
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have had to have been complicit in Cody spending twenty five days with Christine.
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She would have had to sign off on that. You don't think she would
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have had to sign off? I don't think so. She was tracking how
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long he was spending there. Well, she was doing it so that she
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could say, well, but according to this, he was at your house
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longer than he was at my house. Listen, I don't put anything past
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that, wily woman, honey, nothing all right. Speaking of Reddit,
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I did want to kind of run through the top titles that I encountered on
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both subreddits, which are subreddit sister wives and subreddit TLC Sister Wives, which,
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by the way, TLC Sister Wives don't know what's going on, and
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they're like, you can't post, they don't approve your posts. Yeah,
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the better Subreddy Annoints, is by far the Sister Wives subreddit. But anyway,
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there were some of the titles You're ready ye, First one, God
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damn, Christine is not missing a single shot tonight, and we love it.
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We love to see it. Next, why didn't Robin invite Savannah over
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for Christmas? Great point? Why Robin, if you wanted all of the
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kids to be involved, and you wanted the kids to be there, why
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was Savannah excluded? She did nothing to Cody or Robin unless she said some
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nasty shit in the text chain. Little Savannah, she's as quiet as a
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church mouse. She's as sweet as can be. It takes a lot for
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her to look unkindly on her own father. I doubt Savannah said anything.
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But for real, Robin, you're complaining about all these fake Christmases. If
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it was so important to you right to have a family together, why wouldn't
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you have invited Savannah? She was right there in flight. It's because it's
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not important to her Actually she doesn't actually care, right, she's pretending to
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put on this air that she wanted this whole big family. She didn't give
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two shits because if she actually did care, she would have pushed Cody to
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spend more time with the other wives and the other families. Absolutely. Next
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title gaslighting motherfuckers. Yeah, these gaslighting Robin and Cody. Your pieces of
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you were like, why the fuck you lieing? Why you always lie?
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Truly? And they think they're getting one over on us. I mean,
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really, don't they know that we're forensic raccoons, that we have whittled this
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down. We have reduced this down to fucking science. We've watched everything,
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We've listened very closely. We've gotten the transcripts, We've watched the fucking replay.
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You are yingly egg crackers, you've gaslighting motherfucker's. Next we have run
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Mary, Run. You can do it for real, dude. Next,
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that old bean bag is filled with Cody's farts. Throw it out, Janelle.
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He sat on that bean bag a million times and farted right into it.
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Why are you bringing that shit into your home. That's bad energy,
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that's like a haunted artifact. Oh my god, that is the best title
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ever. You don't want any code energy in your apartment, but you definitely
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don't want fart in it. But Janelle is fucking broke and she has a
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tiny little apartment that's apparently the size of Christine's living room and her town home
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yep, and she needs something to sit on. But that really next title,
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Mary was Christine's ghost of Christmas Future. What do you mean? What
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they mean is that all Christine had to do was look at what happened to
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Mary, and she could see her future and that's why she got the fuck
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out, which she says at the end of this episode. She says,
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I saw what happened. He was cruel, he was mean, he threw
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Mary out. I knew that's gonna happen to me. Do you think I'm
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gonna stick around for that? Heck to the note. And finally Robin is
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Delulu. She is so shaz Delulu. She don't believe what she's saying.
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Are you kidding me? The delusion is when you're believing the ship that you're
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saying. She doesn't believe it, she's just trying it. That she's just
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a bad liar, though, Like, come on, this whole thing that
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she's spinning in this episode. I'm just like, do you really think,
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no, this is even believable in any capacity? Of course? Not.
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No again, and I say, and I said this on the reaction,
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I will say again, she's not intelligent. No, she thinks if she
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can say it what convincingly, we will believe it. No, she doesn't
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understand how fucking sick we are as raccoons, really, and how we've sifted
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through the dumpster of her life and we have tasted it all. Baby,
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we've tasted it all. And you're steplie to our faces and tell us it's
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the truth. We know the goddamn difference. Yes, we're getting ahead of
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ourselves. Yeah, before we get into the actual episode, we do have
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another speak pipe, Beatrice tells me. Yeah, from our homegirl Tina,
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Oh my gosh, Tina from last week. So if you guys want to
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leave us a message, if you guys want to scream into the void about
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the Sister wives or about the Plaithville kids, Olivia she's such a nark,
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or about bighead and his neck, you want to call us and just dump
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it on somebody, We would love to hear from you. All you have
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to do is go to speakpipe dot com slash reality TV cringe. But we
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have another message from Tina, so let's hear it. Yes, good morning,
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friends, it's Tina. I'm watching the YouTube video of the hot goss
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that you did yesterday, and I just wanted to reach out because I'm I'm
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so on board with all of everything that you're saying actually about you know,
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safety and the fact that that Cody really is acting really erratically and safety concerns
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for you know, honestly Robin and her kids and the family all joking aside
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in full seriousness, his behavior is concerning, and at the end of the
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day, I don't believe TLC will step in if they see something concerning,
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because they've proven in the past that they won't with other other shows that they've
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had. So the other thing I wanted to mention is, oh, my
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sweet lord, did I sound completely unhinged in that message that you played?
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However, I was a little unhinged, It's okay. Also, I was
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really really nervous to send you guys a message for some odd reason, and
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I'm not nervous today, So maybe I sound a little less unhinged. I
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don't know, but I hope you have a fantastic day and a fantastic weekend.
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Thank you for all your dumpster diving raccoon fantastic nous. Have a great
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day. Thank you, Tina. That's awesome. I mean, the more
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unhinged the better, The more dirty in the dumpster you get, the more
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you are vibing my check and in alignment with Beatrice and Delia. But I
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concur with your sentiments that it is an important discussion to have. I noticed
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that somebody commented on the video that we made on YouTube that this was a
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bunch of bullshit. Of course, the wives are okay, and it's not
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that they're not okay, right, And I do think that they're probably okay.
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Yeah, But I feel like these are the types of conversations we need
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to have because he's definitely exhibiting problematic behavior. He's using specific terms and a
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kind of rhetoric that is abusive and could be indicative of bigger problems at home.
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And if we don't call it out, then who will? Yeah,
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because TLC definitely won't correct. They like the platform abusers, so that's just
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their stick. Yeah, so we got to do it for them. Yeah,
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we're not trying to be hyperbolic. We're not trying to make something out
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of nothing. But when I tell you that, on Reddit, people were
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using the term family annihilator. Yeah, people who have been in situations that
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were abusive. We're like, yeah, I recognize that this is actually scary
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for all of the wives, including Robin. Like I co sign that.
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So I felt like we needed to talk about it. So yeah, Tina,
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we totally agree. Okay, Yeah, now let's get into the Sister
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Wives episode. Look, I take so many notes all the time too,
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I'm crazy, But there are so many pearls I know that I want to
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highlight, so I took less. So I've only got four pages, like
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nine pages, and I'm going to try to get through each party, but
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mostly I want to touch upon the spirit of what we saw tonight. Yeah.
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So we are covering season eighteen, episode five, entitled When the Going
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Gets Tough, and we open this episode with Janelle and Savannah in the small,
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cluttered and crowded apartment their Raid apartment for Christine to come on over because
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they need some more furniture. It's a small place, but we need more
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places to sit, and so Janelle called Christine and Christine recommended giving her the
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bean bag that her and Cody purchased that she doesn't even like, farted upon
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she wants to get rid of. So Christine is on her way over she
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comes in with the bean bags. So what did you think about this scene?
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There was a lot that was said when they were in the apartment.
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There was a lot. I was laughing at her saran wrapping the bean bag
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and bringing it up to the apartment. But then once she gets it in
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and they start chatting, they immediately kind of go into Cody and like when
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the last time he talked to Savannah was, and you know, did he
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see her for Christmas or get her any thing for Christmas? And it's revealed
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that no, he hasn't talked to her since her birthday, which was at
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the beginning of December. It's the middle of January when this is being filmed,
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right, and he didn't get her anything for Christmas. Apparently he didn't
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get any of his other kids anything for Christmas besides Mickelty and Isabelle, right
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because they went to his house, Yeah, the Nucleus house, Yes,
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and he didn't wish her Christmas or anything. And then Cody in his stupid
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talking head is like, oh, well, I'll get her Christmas eventually.
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And I haven't reached out to any of the kids, even Savannah, because
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I don't have the emotional fortitude to do that right now because my wives are
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the ones that kicked me out of their house and therefore kicked me away from
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my kids's life, and so you know, the phone goes both ways.
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This is what really incensed me. And we were watching this and I actually
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said this in the reaction. It's like, Okay, so you had this
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terrible fight with Janelle in which you acted like a complete creep and a gas
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lighter, so much so that you shocked her into silent a few times,
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and you kept cutting her off when she got mad about it because she's reacting
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to it. You got mad at her reaction, and you ultimately left and
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she's like, so we're over then, and you're like, I'm not going
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to stay here, and she's like, okay, fuck you. And you're
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turning that fight into the reason that you can't talk to Savannah because Janelle has
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deprived you of her home. So unbelievable to me that he would even think
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she kicked me out of my house. So I mean she's depriving me of
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my child, which is Savannah. But the phone goes both ways. They
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can reach out to me too. I mean, I feel like we are
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saying things that most people who have a brain in their head and are even
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somewhat sentient understand. If you're the parent, the onus is on you to
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call your own fucking kid. Savannah is a minor, she's a sweet,
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sweet girl. She's done nothing to you, and it's Christmas, and of
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course we see Janelle like, what the fuck, dude? This is what
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really shocked me was that he sent nothing for Christmas. Oh, he didn't
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even call her for Christmas. How do you have an excuse for that?
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He doesn't have an excuse at all. And he didn't even send a gift
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home with McKelty and Isabel for Savannah, so he didn't even think about her,
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didn't care. And then it is talking Head, He's like, I'll
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get it to her eventually. It's the middle of January. Wow, it's
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the middle of fucking January. And I wonder when he got it to her,
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because obviously he's saying that while he's on the couch in the future in
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his interstitial talking Head, did he ever get it to her? Probably was
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it months later? Was it weeks later? Probably not? Probably nothing.
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That's just really fucking sad. Like, I mean, get it. I
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advocate for parents all the time. Yeah, I hate to be a broken
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raccoon record. Parents make mistakes, but the thing is is we all continue
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to grow in our lives, hopefully and at some point you realize, oh
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shit, that was a mistake. I shouldn't have done that. Let me
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make amends for that. And like, this man is in his fifties,
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ye, making these kinds of terrible, narcissistic, selfish mistakes. There is
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no excuse the fact that you'd sit on the couch in the future so months
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after this actually happened and make excuses for it speaks to how unintelligent and disturbingly
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narcissistic you are. And I hate you. I hate we do not prefer
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you. Oh that goody bow. It's so fucked up that he's punishing his
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kids for the wives not being loyal to him. It is so unbelievably messed
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up. They haven't done anything to you, maybe Garrison and Gabe. I
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guess if you're going to punish anybody, you shouldn't. But like you're gonna
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punish freaking Savannah. Right, She's done literally nothing. She reminds me of
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my little sister, Like so quiet, such a sweet little personality, right,
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And you're really gonna just goes along to get along, never causes any
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problems, loves mommy and daddy and conditionally. And this is the kid you're
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just gonna shoot on and you're gonna make excuses for it in your talking head.
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I just wow, unbelievable. And Christine is a lot like us,
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Christine one of us. She's listening to Savannah, She's like, I'm so,
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maybe there's a Savannah says it's like a switch flip to Christine's like,
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well, maybe that switch will flip back. She doesn't say what she really
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wants to say, which is like you and me, we just want to
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go fucking off and get our ninja stars and our breast take care of Cody
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Brown. It wouldn't take fucking much. Yeah, but she doesn't. She
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decides to be quiet, but like she's upset by it, because, yeah,
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what kind of parent, what kind of father does this? Well,
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especially when we've seen in the earlier seasons that Cody used to be somewhat of
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a decent dad. It looked like it seemed like he was present with his
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kids and in their lives and cared about them. And now you have this
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stark difference where he just abandons them because he favors Robin and because she's the
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only loyal wife. It's wild, Yeah, and it's really sad. Yeah.
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Okay, So in the next scene, we have Robin driving her happy
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little minivan over to Mary's house where they're going to sit outside once again with
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one foot of snow on the ground in Flagstaff. It's got to be thirties,
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forties, maybe twenties, but I mean it's fireside chats with Mary and
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Robin, and they're here to download and talk about Christmas. Yeah, and
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Robbin's really depending on Mary to have her back and to get more information from
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or two to get more information, but also to be just a sounding board
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for her to continue to be on her pr marketing campaign about what a victim
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she is. She's hoping Mary will sit there and let her vomit all this
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bullshit all over her and not challenge her. And guess what, Mary does
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not challenge her. She sits there and does not challenge her. It's really
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fucking frustrating ye watching this conversation. But they start up by talking about Christmas,
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and Robin mentions that McKelty and Isabelle or aspen who isabel Sorry? I
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get him all next time McKelty and truly and Isabelle went to Cody's after the
24:56
Christmas that Mary was invited to, and they had this s and Christmas and
25:00
this is a bit of a surprise to Mary. Yeah. Mary straight up
25:03
says, I don't even know why she's telling me this, because I didn't
25:07
have any idea that they were even doing Christmas together and I would have loved
25:11
to be included and she wasn't. And this makes me think that Robin did
25:15
this on purpose. I think they intentionally left Mary out of this particular Christmas.
25:19
They had her there for the actual Christmas because they had to, because
25:23
she was the only one willing to be there with them, But when it
25:26
came to the kids being there with all of the gifts and everything, they're
25:30
like, YEAHO screw you Mary. Yeah. But on the couch, Robin
25:33
says, oh, I didn't know that she didn't know, And I'm like,
25:34
why did you not know that Mary didn't know? Because you know,
25:37
Cody's not going to call her yet. Maybe she figured Isabel would have told
25:42
no Mary. I think she's Isabel and Mary have somewhat of a relationship.
25:48
Did you notice, though, how Mary said, oh, I didn't know
25:51
Isabel was going to be here, as opposed to Isabel and mckelte right and
25:55
truly, so Mary only gives a shit about Isabelle. I guess. But
25:59
I'm like Robin, and you would be the one to tell Mary that the
26:02
kids were coming over, You would be the one to actually invite her,
26:06
but you didn't know. And she's got to keep up the whole cluious act.
26:08
She can't say, oh my god, I'm sorry, I just I
26:11
overlooked it. I should have thought about that. I apologize, But again,
26:15
she cannot take ownership for anything. No, she just smiles and she's
26:18
like, Okay, well, I guess we can't communicate very well either,
26:22
Okay, Robin. God. She starts talking again about she doesn't know what
26:26
happened in the family, like you know, COVID revealed who they really are,
26:33
but she's just so confused. I don't know what happened. I joined
26:37
at the latter part of all the marriages, so I didn't see. I
26:40
have no idea, and I hate this bullshit that she does. I hate
26:44
it. And she said, she keeps saying, I heard that it was
26:47
so bad. It was so bad for many years, but when I came
26:49
into the family, it seemed like everything was good. So I feel like
26:52
I've been lied to and I just don't know what went wrong. And then
26:56
she talks about like deal breakers, like what was the deal breaker? Because
27:00
you know, I felt like, am I jumping ahead? I felt like
27:06
I had less time with Cody sometimes an unequal time, and so you know,
27:11
if that's the deal breaker, then that can be worked on. Yep.
27:14
Like, it's kind of crazy to me that she is trying to compare
27:18
herself to the other wives who have actually been neglected from Cody mentally, physically,
27:22
emotionally, financially. And then she's going to say that that's not a
27:27
deal breaker. Not having your husband around right at all, is not.
27:32
It should not be a deal breaker for them, for them. It would
27:34
be for me, yeah, but not for them. And she speaks specifically
27:38
about the relationship with Cody and Christine and how Cody has been telling her that
27:42
there were problems for many years with Christine, and then Mary says something like,
27:47
well, then there must have been many problems with me and Cody,
27:51
because look where I am with him, right, So you can't really say
27:53
that about Christine and not say that about me, And that kind of led
27:56
us into these interesting conversations where Christine is talking about how they tried to get
28:03
back to normal after Robin entered the family, because what kept them together initially
28:10
the three of them and no excuse me, the yeah, the three of
28:12
them in Cody before Robin was this vision that they had for their polygamous life,
28:18
to raise all of these kids under one roof, and that kept them
28:22
fueled, right, But then she came and they tried to adjust, but
28:26
they never could get back to that original family vibe. And then Janelle says
28:30
something like, yeah, when Robin came into the family, we also went
28:34
public at the same time, right, And we know that they also had
28:38
the show at the same time, and there were political implications that were going
28:41
on at the same time, and try as they might, they were never
28:45
able to return back to that nostalgic original family structure, which I thought was
28:49
interesting. Yeah, and you also moved away into separate houses and you never
28:55
got to be in one big house again. I think the only reason why
28:57
they were able to keep the big picture of the family going for so many
29:02
years was because they were all in one roof. And I mean, to
29:04
be fair, it would be exhausting for Cody to have to travel between all
29:08
of these houses all the time. I get that, But Cody, this
29:11
is what you signed us, is what you created. This is intentionally did
29:15
you create this? Yeah? And so now you must maintain and manage this
29:18
right. And we've talked about this on our rewind episodes that he probably did
29:22
want to get back into one big house. There was probably still that desire
29:26
for him, but I don't think Robin ever really wanted to do that,
29:30
and so she made it sure that it never happened. Ever. Again,
29:34
the closest they ever got to was that freaking col de Sac in Las Vegas.
29:38
But we know from this episode that he couldn't even be equal with his
29:41
time there. So it's just Cody not taking responsibility and being the patriarch of
29:49
the family and managing his time well between all of these families. He got
29:55
selfish and he got lazy, and he wanted to be with Robin and her
29:57
break dancing PUNINNI the entire time, Yes, but I mean previous to that,
30:03
he did the same thing with Christine. And so we have this conversation
30:08
between Robin and Mary where Mary tells her that early in the relationship, during
30:17
one of the Christmases that Christine, I guess who was new to the family,
30:19
because Christine said this happened in Wyoming. Yeah, I don't know the
30:22
timeline necessarily, but Cody got all these presents for Christine and it was a
30:27
gift after gift after gift, and it was really sweet, but there was
30:32
nothing for Mary. And then somebody asked, well, what about Mary?
30:36
And then Janelle went and got a hoodie and Cody gave her an unwrapped hoodie
30:38
and she's like, yeah, a little bit too late, sir. Yeah.
30:41
So I said to you, well, it just seems to me like
30:45
he's always had this inability to divide his time equally, or to divide his
30:49
interest and his attention equally. So he's always had the proclivity to shirk wives
30:56
right for another wife that he favored it time, and it used to be
31:00
Christine, and then Robin came around, and then Christine had to get used
31:03
to it wasn't her anymore and she couldn't do it. But that just like
31:07
also places into the fact that Cody has been saying now for the last couple
31:11
of seasons that he was disgusted by Christine in the earlier years and like he
31:15
never wanted to be around her and he only married her because he felt like
31:18
he had too. So it's like, Okay, did you favorite her for
31:22
a time or were you disgusted by her because she ate nachos. It's like
31:26
he can't keep favorited her. No, he's lying now to make up for
31:30
everything that we've already seen. He's gas lighting us now. I think he
31:33
truly loved Christine. He had six children with Christine. You don't have six
31:38
kids with somebody that you're physically repulsed by, I don't think. But Christine
31:44
also was used to his attention, a certain amount of his attention. It
31:48
sounds like, as we get into this conversation with Robin and Mary, that
31:52
Mary often went without her fair share in those early years, and maybe that
31:56
was going to Christine and Janelle because they had more children. But he's ever
32:00
been able to manage this in the right way, and he talks a lot
32:04
about how comparison is the thief of joy, and how one wife counting where
32:07
he is, counting the hours and the time of where he is, you
32:10
know, is very problematic. You shouldn't be doing it well, but they
32:14
wouldn't have to, yeah, if you were fair and how you were dividing
32:16
your time. And it's not just about the wives, Beatrice, it's about
32:21
the kids exactly. It's the kids that are like, Mom, yeah,
32:23
we're going to get to that right now, but Mom, he's over at
32:27
Robin's house all the time. Why isn't he spending time with us? Right?
32:30
We feel neglected by that exactly. And even in this story, when
32:35
Mary's telling Robin about the Christmas that she got nothing, Cody and his talking
32:39
head is like, I don't even remember that, right, So I'm like,
32:43
is that true? Like did you really just put that out of your
32:45
mind? And he kind of looked like he was misty eyed there for a
32:47
little bit, like almost like ashamed, and his voice got deeper, and
32:52
I wondered if he felt bad for that being a memory. And he's like,
32:55
well, this is how resentments are built. It's like, well,
32:58
yeah, of course that's how they're built. But what do you have to
33:00
say about what you did in a hot right? What do you have to
33:02
say about how that compares to what you were doing? Now? I'm sorry,
33:06
cut you off. Go on, Oh, I was just going to
33:07
say, if this happened more than once, then of course this is just
33:09
going to compound over time and just get worse and worse and worse. And
33:14
I'm surprised that Mary didn't leave you earlier, but I mean she cheated on
33:17
you with that catfish, so right, you got what you got, But
33:22
I just wish Mary would have been more assertive in this conversation about how Cody
33:28
was and how Cody has been. I mean not just in Utah or Wyoming,
33:34
but also in Vegas, in the Four Houses and in Vegas, and
33:37
they called des sac like, let's call a thing a thing. Let's not
33:38
pretend that we don't know that he was spending all of his time with Robin.
33:44
That's exactly where he was. Yeah, And I mean if he's a
33:46
narcissist, then she's a victim of that abuse then, right, So she's
33:51
been stuck in this mind control for a while now of believing that she is
33:55
not worth more of his time and being strung along by him, by and
34:00
him saying nasty, awful things about her on national television and to everybody else
34:05
but her. So, I mean, I think she's just been beat down
34:09
for several years, especially after the affair, the online affair or whatever.
34:14
But the reality is she hasn't even seen the worst of it yet, because
34:17
we're talking January twenty twenty two, they have not even filmed the tell all.
34:22
She hasn't seen all of the things he's said about her in season seventeen.
34:25
She certainly hasn't seen what he has said about her in the tel all.
34:29
So she's got a whole world of hurt yet coming toward her. This
34:34
feels like a good place to take a bit of a break. We've got
34:37
to keep these lights on, keep this booze flowing, and so we're gonna
34:40
take that break, run a few ads, and we will be back on
34:43
the other side to keep talking about's wild baby. We are back to talk
34:50
azilst wives. Moving on from the conversation with Mary and Robin, we bounced
34:55
back to the dormitory apartment with Janelle and be then and the farty being Peg
35:01
and Christine, and Christine kind of checks her temperature about how she feels with
35:07
regard to reconciling with Codium. This is where we learn that she's like,
35:13
me, I don't really want to do it, but really because it seems
35:15
conditional. Seems like in order for me to have a full and healthy relationship
35:21
with my husband, I have to pledge fealty and kiss the ring of the
35:25
favorite wife. Yes, And Janelle even says that that's never been a prerequisite
35:30
for polygamy, that sister wives have to be best friends. It's not required,
35:34
which I thought was interesting because it seems like they always kind of tell
35:37
that it's a benefit of polygamy and put marriage. But I like that she
35:43
was like, it doesn't have to be that, we don't have to be
35:45
best friends at all, yeah, which I'm like, yes, interesting.
35:49
I thought that was interesting too. This is where Janelle brings up the fact
35:53
that her kids have complained to her about the favoritism, how their father there
36:00
wasn't around, and this is where she says that it really never bothered her.
36:04
She kind of just coasted over the neglect and all of the times that
36:07
he wasn't around, and it was her kids that were the ones that were
36:12
making the fuss and this is where and I said this in the reaction,
36:15
I feel like you are under reacting. Why did it take you all of
36:20
your kids, except for Savannah to be old enough to get out of the
36:22
house and all of this turmoil to be created between your husband and your children
36:30
for you to finally take a stand, Because she says, if I had
36:31
it to do over again, for example, if I stayed with Cody,
36:35
or I assume if she ends up with somebody else, monogamous or polygamous,
36:38
she would not enter into the same kind of arrangement. But I'm like,
36:42
why didn't you stand up for your kids, though, Because it's not just
36:45
about you and how much time you spend fucking Cody Brown and how much time
36:50
he's spending in your house or your bit. It's about your kids who need
36:53
their parents. So why weren't you jumping up and down making a fucking fuss
36:58
about him neglecting them. I wonder if she thought it was just her or
37:01
like that she was the only one that wasn't getting as much and so why
37:05
bother complaining or something like. I wonder if they have some fucked up,
37:07
weird thing in this family that they're like, well, it's not that bad
37:12
or it's not as bad as Mary, So like I should be grateful for
37:15
it, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's messed up. It's
37:17
not good. It's not good. It's it's definitely bad. And if your
37:22
kids are actively being like mom, you're our dad does not care about you,
37:27
doesn't care about us, He's spending all of his time with Robin.
37:30
Why are you doing something about it? Yeah? Like, Janelle, why
37:32
aren't you? Why aren't you doing anything? And for this same reason,
37:36
we could ask Christine the same question, right, why didn't you tolerate it
37:39
so long? Why are you tolerating this? It's not just about you,
37:43
It's about what I need from my parents. It's about what the healthy home
37:47
life should look like for me the child, not just you and your marriage.
37:52
So I just I don't know. I just there's so much Janelle worship
37:55
and so much Christine Worship's true, And I'm like, you guys done things
38:00
very, very differently. Janelle, You certainly could have structured your finances in
38:05
a much different ways that you aren't left high or dry when you're fifty years
38:07
old and your daughter isn't sitting here crying because her fucking father hasn't called her
38:13
or even thought about her for six weeks, Like, this is something you
38:15
are complicit in. That's the point that I'm trying to make. Well,
38:19
maybe they thought it would be better. Maybe they thought it would get better
38:21
eventually, because they knew Cody when he was good and when he was a
38:25
good dad, and when he cared about them. I really think it's more
38:29
about faith with Janelle. I think that probably out of everyone currently is clinging
38:35
to her faith. Yeah, and she wants to do right by the promises
38:39
that she has made, and she talks about separation, she talks about divorce,
38:45
which I guess for them is called something like release. Well it's like
38:47
a spiritual divorce, a spiritual divorce. So she's not released at this time,
38:52
and she doesn't know if she wants to be, so she's kind of
38:54
in the middle. But I think she's trying to be faithful to her faith,
39:00
and so maybe that's why she feels justified in not necessarily taking a harder
39:05
stand with Cody. But you know what, I don't respect it. I
39:07
just don't fucking respect it. And even Christine, when Janelle says she's maybe
39:12
open to polygamy in the future. She's like, I mean, I honor
39:15
your choice to be in polygamy or anybody's choice, but I just don't get
39:19
it. Nope, And is it just me? But that also bothers me
39:22
because she's spent so many seasons being raw raw raw for polygamy and getting upset
39:30
and offended when anybody criticized or question true polygamy. And now because you decided
39:37
to leave Cody, now polygamy sucks. It's right. And let me ask
39:40
you, Beatrice, does she have a responsibility anywhere to make it right?
39:46
What we mean? We talked about this in some other episode, some other
39:50
pod, Like you spent many years selling polygamy to the public. You probably
39:57
lad women and men into this lifestyle because they believed the bullshit that you were
40:01
peddling, And now all of a sudden you were like, yeah, polygamy
40:05
sucks. Do you have a responsibility to say something about that? I think
40:08
so, how you lied, why you lied, what the lies were,
40:13
and how do you make that right or why you changed your opinion? Like
40:15
that's fine if you changed your mind after all of these years because you realized
40:20
that it does actually fucking suck and it doesn't benefit everybody in the arrangement unless
40:24
you have a perfect husband who can equally divide his time between all of the
40:30
wives and the families. Yeah, she needs to at least say something.
40:32
I think. I think so too. It kind of bugs me, Yeah,
40:36
it kind of sticks up in my cross. Then we bounced back to
40:38
Mary and Robin during their fireside chat, and here's where we get into the
40:43
actual scheduling. Yeah, Mary says, I have a secret. Yeah,
40:47
there was a time back in the old days. It sounds like before Robin
40:52
that Cody was telling me that he was spending all his time with me,
40:57
that Christine and Janelle weren't getting the same amount of time. And so Mary
41:01
actually kept a schedule, and at the end of the schedule keeping, she
41:06
determined that was alive. She was less than a third less than a third.
41:10
Yeah, And this is when Robin Mother Robin opens her mouth to say,
41:16
well, that's interesting, because I have the same secret. There once
41:22
was a month or two or I as well kept a schedule, and as
41:27
it turns out, I wasn't getting a fair amount of time. Yeah,
41:31
because Cody was spending his whole time, the whole month or two with Christine.
41:37
Because she was complaining about not getting enough time, and I felt neglected.
41:40
Cut to Cody saying he did a little experiment, yeah, wherein he
41:45
spent the majority of the month with Christine because she was always complaining, Yeah,
41:50
always laining, I'm over at somebody else's house and she was wrong.
41:52
So I thought, well, let me see how Christine acts if I spend
41:57
my majority of time with her. Let's see if she's be and you know
42:00
what, she was happy. What he's implying is Christine's only happy when the
42:06
other wives aren't getting their fair share, right, which is not true at
42:09
all. But Christine does say in her talking head that, yeah, there
42:13
was one month in Vegas that I got him and I got his full attention
42:16
and it was great. It was really nice, and I got him for
42:20
as much time as Robin as Robin did so, not necessarily twenty five full
42:23
days consecutive, baby, but she got the majority of the time for him,
42:27
and she's like, but for one month that was out of all of
42:30
the fifty nine months or something that she said, that's all she got.
42:32
Yes, And it was just an experiment. Yep, it wasn't justice,
42:37
see, because he wanted to be with her or because you wanted to make
42:39
up for time he hasn't spent with his kids. It's just to see if
42:43
you're going to quit your bitchen, yep, if this will help satiate you
42:46
for at least a year or so, right, And it just so happens
42:51
that that's the one month that Robin kept her schedule so that she could for
42:54
such a time as this, so she could bring it out and say,
42:57
you know what, I actually kept a schedule too. I didn't get as
43:00
much time as Christine. Whatever. Did I complain about it? No,
43:05
because you're complicit with Cody in having him do this experiment. You think she
43:08
wasn't complicit? She absolutely was. She definitely definitely was. And I just
43:13
couldn't believe the audacity of her to even bring up this scenario after Mary is
43:19
literally saying, yeah, I was less than a third. So Robin,
43:22
your a little month or two experiment that you didn't get to have Cody there
43:25
for that whole time when your kids were supposedly struggling because they couldn't see where's
43:35
my papa? You're literally going to use that to try and relate to Mary,
43:38
who has been neglected. This entire teased abused for sure. Isolated.
43:46
It's so gross, and you can kind of see on Mary's face like the
43:52
feeling of her being like really bitch. Well, and here again I say,
43:54
Mary, you should fucking speak up and tell the truth. You want
43:59
to say you don't take sides, but here is actual evidence that you're taking
44:01
sides, because if you were a real one, you would call this motherfucking
44:06
shit up because you were living in that cold to Sack too, my lady,
44:08
And you knew where Cody was. Yep, they all knew. They
44:13
all knew where Cody was. And here we get into a bit more of
44:15
a breakdown of how he spent his time. We have Christine Well. First,
44:19
we have Janelle saying when we got to Vegas, this is when everything
44:22
started to fall apart. We had the four houses separately. Then we got
44:28
the call to Sack and that's where Cody started to spend an inordinate amount of
44:32
time with Robin. Then we have Christine cut coming in on a talking head
44:37
saying that he would stop by my house between five and six o'clock only in
44:43
the evening, only in the evenings, and then he'd go back to Robbins.
44:46
And I was trying to figure out and raccoons. Maybe you can drop
44:50
a comment or let us know what you think. But does that mean he
44:53
just came by for dinner and then went back to Robbins that's what it sounds.
44:58
Or did he like stay the night maybe in the morning he went back
45:00
to Robin. Well, I do know that when they got into the cul
45:05
de sac and everything, they were kind of alternating nights supposedly, but that
45:08
was also around the time where like Robin would try to keep him there longer,
45:13
like they're longer in the morning, so he didn't have to go over
45:15
to Christine or Mary or wherever's house. So it was kind of a time
45:21
where like where Robin was kind of manipulating it a little bit to get more
45:24
and more time from him. And remember how she would go over to Mary's
45:30
when Cody was with Mary, right, so she'd get extra time doing that
45:35
as well. Exactly, So this leads us into the talking head of Cody.
45:40
So he's on the couch and he's explaining why the wives might think this
45:45
purpose he was actually over at Robin's house when he wasn't actually spending time with
45:50
Robin, and it was because Robin created this space in the house so that
45:55
he could have an office, created some space for him in the garage so
46:00
he could do whatever he does in a garage. You're not telling me that
46:02
guy can fucking work. This man is not handy. This man is not
46:06
a handy man. Nope, she gave me a space in the garage.
46:08
She gave me an office so I would go there to do my work.
46:12
I wasn't spending time with her though, And then Robin and her freaking talking
46:15
head is like, yeah, they're making a lot of assumptions about what he
46:19
was doing at my house. He wasn't always spending time with me. My
46:22
kids, my kyots would also wine about how they didn't get to see Oh
46:29
yeah, my kyots would whine about how they didn't get to see their dad
46:32
very often. I'm like, you are so full of shit, such a
46:36
bit, you are so hateful of it. So what he sounds like to
46:39
me, he's only going over to Christine's in the evenings. He's popping over
46:44
just to do his due diligence. And Cody and Robin are like, yeah,
46:47
I wasn't spending time with her the whole entire time, so I was
46:51
working. It feels like to me, because it's a he's on the couch,
46:53
it's a talking head that the producers have told him what the wives are
46:58
saying, and the producers told Robin what the wives are saying, and so
47:01
they're concocting this elaborate story that he's just in the office, he's not actually
47:07
spending time with Robin. But I was on with Out of Crystal Balls Instagram
47:13
page and she made a post about how somebody close to the family claims that
47:17
when Cody was over at Robin's house, he was always in the bedroom,
47:22
he was taking naps, he was in the bedroom, or he was with
47:25
the kids. You could always see him like holding sault. So this is
47:30
just fucking bullshit. And if you want to talk about space in a house
47:34
for an office, then why aren't we talking about married and you're fucking huge,
47:37
empty house with multiple bedrooms and a fucking whip bar. Why isn't that
47:42
a better place for you to set up your laptop for your job that doesn't
47:46
actually exist. When have you ever had a proper job while you've been on
47:50
Sister Wives? Why do you need to be in an office anyway? It's
47:52
just so fuck It's just it's just such a bulls should Beatrice's sorry, No,
48:01
it's just because she's writing down the edit. It's just I'm upset.
48:05
It's just it's awful. It's rediculous. And then Cody, I can't remember
48:09
if this is the part in his talking head when he's like saying that the
48:14
wives have concocted this idea that he was favoriting Robin only during COVID and that
48:20
they're pretending like the time in the past he was also favoring her and that
48:24
he was unequal with this time. He's like, I wasn't. I was
48:28
very equal. I was spending all of my time at all of the wives.
48:30
They all each got their own time with me, right, I'm Mike,
48:32
So you are really trying to say that the only time the wives have
48:37
ever brought up an issue of favoritism is only during COVID. No, COVID
48:40
just heightened it because you spent months now you had an excuse, yes to
48:45
stay there and avoid the rest of your family and completely cut off contact with
48:50
them because they're having social lives or they're not following your stupid God rules,
48:53
Like you literally wasted a whole year without that, say wasted, not even
49:00
the kidneys. Wasted a whole year with Robin and didn't see any of your
49:05
kids for months, like nine months, I think, gabs, And you're
49:08
trying to say that's the only time that I was unequal, right, Okay,
49:14
It's like an exercise in futility trying to do a forensic investigation on who
49:20
might be telling the truth and what the schedules actually were and what the timeline
49:24
was. It's like nobody is telling the full story, and while it was
49:30
happening, they were lying to us, pretending it was all a happy situation.
49:32
So it's like, it's why even bother like they're gonna lie, We're
49:37
not going to believe them. Christine's going to call it out and we're going
49:39
to love that. And this is kind of when we start getting getting into
49:45
the part where Robin's like, you know, I always felt like Christine and
49:50
I could have had a friendship, like there felt like there was such potential
49:53
there, and I'm just heartbroken that were never that we were never friends.
49:59
And then skip over to Christine and she's like, I don't trust this bitch.
50:01
I don't trust her at all, And then she talks about when they
50:05
went to family Counseling, which we haven't seen those seasons yet, but apparently
50:09
Christine was very upfront and family Counseling and said, yeah, the whole problem
50:14
is that Cody favors Robin and apparently period point and everybody knows it. That's
50:20
all it is. And Cody and Robin even back then, vehetmently denied it,
50:23
which is so stupid. I'm like, it's obvious. It's obvious to
50:27
everyone with the freaking brain. Yeah, and Christine's like, so since they
50:30
denied it and she's continued to deny it, I don't trust her. And
50:34
you know what, even if she asked me now to be friends, even
50:37
if she came up to me and said I want to be friends, I
50:39
would still say no. I would still reject her ass and she also referred
50:44
to the past. If she had asked me back then to be friends,
50:46
if she ever actually did extend an olive branch, which she is now claiming
50:50
to have done, which she ever actually fucking did, I would have said
50:53
no because I cannot trust you because you are a liar, and you also
50:59
don't care about anybody's family but your own. You see how much time Cody
51:05
spends at your house. You know that it is not equal. You don't
51:07
care about my kids, because if you cared about me, and if you
51:09
cared about my kids and Janelle's kids and Mary's kid, you would make sure
51:14
that Cody was over there, if you cared about polygamy. But you know
51:16
what, Robin has never been a polygamy and she was never part of a
51:21
polygamist family. Her stepfather at best was a big a mess. Her mother
51:24
was the second wife, she lived separately. She doesn't know how to do
51:30
polygamy. And so I one hundred percent call sign with Christina is saying and
51:34
speaking of friendships among the wives. This is where we kind of bought back
51:37
into Janelle's kitchen, or actually Janelle's talking ahead and she tells the story of
51:43
a conversation that she had with Robin. And this was before Robin purchased the
51:49
hoarder House McMansion. And of course we know that Mary contributed the prophets of
51:54
her called a sack house. Janelle contributed the prophets of her called a sack
52:00
house to enable Robin to purchase this mec mansion. Yeah, but before Robin
52:05
purchased it with Cody. Apparently, Janelle had a conversation with Robin in which
52:09
she said, I really don't think this is the right thing to do.
52:12
If we want to build on Coyote Pass, we have to pull our funds.
52:15
We have to think clearly, maybe you should rent. And then she
52:20
finds out a year and a half later from Cody that Robin shared that information
52:27
with Cody, but she spun it in such a way where Cody now thinks
52:30
that Janelle was mean right. Janelle used it against Robin. Janelle bullied Robin.
52:36
Janelle made Robin feel bad about needing a house for her kiss and Janelle's
52:43
like, oh, I see how it is. Yeah, I see how
52:45
you play the game. If I come to you as a friend and we
52:46
sit down and have a private conversation and I share with you my legit concerns
52:52
about everything, you're just going to run to fucking Cody and you're going to
52:53
spin it how you want yet to spin it. And then we cut to
52:57
Robin and her goiter Jesus Christ. We saved that for the Patreon. We
53:04
don't talk about Dabby. I didn't say day, I didn't name it's anyway.
53:09
Then we got to Robin and she's like, oh, no, no,
53:13
no no. I did tell Cody about the conversation with Janelle, but
53:15
it was only because Janelle and I agreed. Yeah, I actually said that
53:20
we didn't want to buy the house. Because I didn't want to buy the
53:22
house. Cody was pressuring me to buy this McMansion. You are full of
53:27
shit. Do you see how much she wanted to buy the McMansion. She
53:30
wanted to buy that house for her and for her children. They needed a
53:35
house to land, and she used Janelle having a problem with it to almost
53:39
spur Cody on to purchase it for her. Like, Janelle doesn't want me
53:44
to buy it, I'm gonna be homeless. How I'm what am I gonna
53:46
do for my kios? She's like, don't worry, baby, I'm gonna
53:50
get you that house. Fuck Janelle, how mean she is to you.
53:53
You're never gonna have a full relationship with her until she treats you like the
53:58
queen that you are. That's exactly why I know, I know it.
54:01
But did you see her fri kid rental? Though before that that thing was
54:05
humongous also looking, but it is. She can justify it because Mary has
54:13
a very queenly that Mary pays for herself that the family does not finance whatsoever.
54:20
For sure, we bop on back to Mary and Robin, and this
54:24
is the conversation about Christmas, and this is the very memable moment where Robin
54:31
talks about it doesn't matter what we do for Christmas if we're separate. My
54:38
kids over here, Christine's kids over there, Janelle's kids over there, Mary's
54:43
child over there, celebrate in having all this fancy food and they're fancy are
54:49
Airbnb. It doesn't matter. It's just a cheap representation. It's a cheap
54:54
version of what it should be as our big family. It's never gonna be
54:58
what it should be if we're separated. And here I just want to say,
55:01
Beatrice, that people on Reddit seem to be construing this rant as Robin
55:09
saying unless people come to my house, unless people come to the nucleus,
55:15
which is me and Cody, and it's a facsimile. It's a fake facsimile
55:19
of what it ought to be. But I didn't really hear Robin saying that.
55:22
In the moment I heard her saying, if we're not together, it's
55:25
a cheap version of what it should be. Am I wrong? Am I
55:29
getting that wrong. Yeah, I mean there might be an undertone of that,
55:31
though. I think she does want to have the appearance of a good
55:36
family. What's it called. It's not a communal narcissist. There's another type
55:38
of narcissist that specifically is like wanting to appear like they have the white picket
55:45
fence and everything's happy and everybody's good, even though underneath all of it,
55:50
she's the favorite wife. She's destroying the whole family. She's the one that's
55:52
causing all of this division and adversity in the family. So I think that's
55:58
what it is. I think she genuine only does feel robbed of this family
56:01
life for her ki oots, and I feel like she is resentful for that,
56:07
and she blames the wives for it. Right, She doesn't blame anybody
56:09
but the wives. She blames Christine for leaving because how dare you Your problems
56:15
in your marriage with Cody weren't actually deal breakers. You could have worked on
56:20
them, and you didn't work on them because you don't care about the family,
56:22
and you don't care about the family unit, and you don't care about
56:24
me, right, Like, that's the connotation I think for it. I
56:28
think she's actually pissed off that she was robbed and given a cheap version of
56:31
the family that she thought she would get right. But you're also failing to
56:36
realize, Robin, that you were the reason why you got that cheap version
56:38
of the family. And she ends this rant with and these kids they know
56:44
it, and like these kids she's talking about the older like you calling these
56:49
people or you people. It's like they're separate from me. They're mothered,
56:52
They're not the same as me. Evil stepmom energy. Yes, that was
57:00
wild. She's going to regret that rant and her crying, her fake tears
57:04
crying. I thought there was a moment though in this episode where there was
57:07
some mescara running there was a little wetness. Do you think she's put vizine
57:09
in her promis during the break? But I mean, I think she's actually
57:13
emotional. I think she wishes it would have worked out the way she wanted
57:17
it to, which is her being the queen bee, the legal wife,
57:22
the head bit bit bitch in charge and everybody else just falling into line.
57:24
And wouldn't it have been perfect if everybody just did that. Yeah, she's
57:29
realizing it's never gonna work, and so she's sad, yes, but she's
57:31
an awful person, so I don't feel bad for the les major bed now
57:37
lye in it. Next we go over to soul Lake City Baby with got
57:40
Christine, who's happier than she's ever been from these bitches Clode and Robin.
57:47
She's like, I'm about to turn fifty fifty right, old Age's so excited.
57:52
So she's sitting down with Aspen, who is gorgeous yes, and they're
58:00
blaming her birthday party, and Mikelty's like, why don't we do a nineteen
58:02
fifties birthday for your fiftieth birthday? And I'm just thinking, isn't that kind
58:07
of rude? Though, Like aren't you calling your mom old? What do
58:09
you mean from? Because I think they're choosing a fifties decade. Yeah,
58:12
because if you're nineteen fifties, fould be like sefty right now? You know
58:15
what I mean? Well, but I mean I don't think I didn't get
58:17
that at all. I don't think about that. I just thought it was
58:21
like cute, like let's do a stock hop, let's do an ice cream
58:23
socio, let's play some fifties music. It'll be fun. She's your old
58:29
mom let's do a nineteen fifties birthday. Christine is just excited because it's this
58:32
idea that she doesn't have to have the tension. Yes that is always around
58:38
for every Brown family function, this is their own fucking shit. She's gonna
58:43
be happy. She's about to get a matchmaker. In the next episode,
58:45
she's about to get a deep digging from that sixty year old man. She's
58:50
about to start living her life. Doesn't have to worry about those badges bedrooms.
58:53
She does it. And so they start going over the guest list and
58:58
Mikelty brings up what's her name? Janelle Janelle mother Janelle Cody's mom, And
59:02
I'm like, why, Yeah. She's like, well, because I guess
59:07
Christine and her had a good relation. Plus her son is the dude that
59:10
your mom is divorcing. Yes. And then she's like, and Dad's best
59:14
friend. And I'm like, She's like, I think dad's best friend is
59:16
a yes, but Grandma Janelle is a no. And then she's like,
59:20
just kidding, I don't think Dad's best friend. I'm just she's always extra.
59:23
I'm like, you need to plan everything. You don't know what's best
59:27
for everyone. I know you think you do, but I hate you.
59:30
I know you're a lot like your dad. You run defense and interference for
59:34
Robin and Cody. So I don't want to see you on my television.
59:36
Sorry, the sooner you can get off my television. Is she being paid
59:38
also by telc probably because she's an adult by now, But I'm like,
59:42
I don't want to see you here if you're just gonna be like trying to
59:45
be team Cody and team Robin like I don't or we don't need it and
59:50
we don't believe it and we're not buying it. Nope. And for all
59:52
of you raccoons who are a part of their patreon, I don't want to
59:54
shame you because I love you. Yeah, because you're also in the dumpster
59:59
hanging out with us. But I don't get it. No, I'm just
1:00:00
telling you. Why are you Gilty's patreon and Tony's patron? Why are you
1:00:06
facilitating him not working and being a professional chess player. Why are you facilitating
1:00:09
her LULUO and Plexus LM Pyramids game where she's out of thousands of dollars?
1:00:16
For real? I just don't like her, No me either. You know,
1:00:19
when she had her I guess after her twins, like a year ago
1:00:23
or whatever, she did an Instagram live where she was talking about postpartum depression.
1:00:30
Oh yeah, and she was attributing postpartum depression to mom's feeling innately jealous
1:00:36
of their children. What That's how dumb she is, Beatrice, She's a
1:00:39
dumb, dumb person. This is why I'm saying when she talks like she
1:00:44
knows what she's saying, she does not nobody's Is there anybody's smart? Logan?
1:00:49
Logan? Maybe Hunter went to he went to university? Like, yeah,
1:00:52
is he with John Hopkins? Like he's pretty smart? Airforce Academy?
1:00:55
Right, But I mean most of them are dumb, honey. Oh well,
1:00:58
I mean they're the children and Michael at the top. Yeah. After
1:01:05
that we have Christine and her adorable schamar Moore. Oh my confession. When
1:01:13
he says baby girl, I just melt and she does blush. She can
1:01:16
see like her whole face, and I just tell you, it's always like
1:01:21
a chamar Moore. Or he's gay, No he's not. I think he's
1:01:24
gay. He's straight. He's way too beautiful to be straight. No,
1:01:28
he is, he is straight. How do you know he's straight? How
1:01:31
do you know he spooked a lot of women? When did he say that?
1:01:36
I cite your site your sore. I think he's probably gay. I
1:01:40
clearly love gay people. I'm just saying, but I love it for her,
1:01:45
and she also like had a crush on some cartoon Janie or something.
1:01:49
I think it's adorable. But it's always like for you know, women of
1:01:52
her age, it's always look directly at me as you say that. I'm
1:02:00
just saying, it's always the stereotypical two people that they're always obsessed with.
1:02:02
It's either Shamar Moore or it's Jason Momoa. It's always those two. Well,
1:02:07
I'll have you know when Jason Momoa was younger and he was certaing shorts,
1:02:13
and when he was fucking Cal Drogo, nobody could touch Cal Droger.
1:02:17
There was nothing more sexual. I'm sorry, but that doesn't make me a
1:02:22
boomer. That just means I have eyes. I think. I don't think
1:02:28
Samar Moore is like I'm saying, it's either one or the because he's gay.
1:02:31
He gives off gay vibes. Anybody else is just hella. I love
1:02:35
that. I want him to be empowered in his Okay, then we bop
1:02:38
on over to Mary. She's in her car. She's driving to Parawan,
1:02:42
Utah to the Haunted B and B, which it has a ghost. It
1:02:45
does have a ghost and very terrible wallpaper. Yep, and Jen is running
1:02:49
it now or lesbian lover got to go there every once in a while,
1:02:54
if you know what I mean, I had to eat. Mary has made
1:02:58
the very tortured decision, yeah, to move her online clothing business, which
1:03:04
is her pyramid scheme, which is just herrow bullshit business yea, to the
1:03:09
B and B, so that both businesses can be proximate and easier for her
1:03:14
to run all of her scams and schemes with her six thousand dollars retreats worthy
1:03:17
up. But she's not leaving, though she wants everybody to know she's not
1:03:22
actually moving. But I think she's totally moving. She's not moving. Yeah,
1:03:24
she's moving until twenty twenty three objectively. Actually she does not move,
1:03:30
and she's starting, but she's not moving. And I think she's doing it
1:03:35
this way. She's doing what Christine is doing. She's going to come back
1:03:37
every couple of weeks and stay in her big, fucking lonely, isolated haunted
1:03:42
rental and Flagstaff because she wants to give Cody the appearance that the door is
1:03:47
still open. She's still willing to try if at some point, Cody,
1:03:52
you get a wild hair and want to stick that thing up and they want
1:03:54
to stick your man. I'm here, I come back to Flagstaff member two
1:03:59
weeks. Yeah, that's why she's saying she's anxious because she doesn't want to
1:04:02
tell Robin because here two four, Robin has begged her not to leave Flagstaff
1:04:08
because she's her only friend yet, the only one left of the family that's
1:04:12
actually trying to keep the family together. And so Mary's worried about what she's
1:04:16
going to say to Robin, but she just has to do this. Yeah,
1:04:19
and ultimately we know, because we live in the current year of Our
1:04:24
Lord twenty twenty three, that Mary does finally separate and or divorced from Cody
1:04:30
moves to Utah. But right now we're kind of in this transitional stage.
1:04:34
I wonder how Robin's gonna take it. I wonder if we get to see
1:04:38
that next episode. If so, I hope she cries, and she would
1:04:40
probably cries leaving me and Mary's gonna be like, no, I'm not leaving,
1:04:45
but yeah, I am kind of you have to leave. This episode
1:04:47
ends with Christine saying that she has watched YEA for years as Cody has strong
1:04:56
Mary along and he has been mean. Yep, he has been cruel,
1:05:00
talking shit about her, talking match shit about Mary, and she knew just
1:05:04
by watching Mary that he would have done the same thing to her if she
1:05:09
had stayed. Yeah, and that's why she left. And I loved that
1:05:12
total fire sign energy her just being like, I'm not putting up with this
1:05:15
crap. The second he cut off intimacy with her was the time she was
1:05:18
like, Okay, I can't do this. Yep, I'm not doing it
1:05:21
with you, Dan and empowered Queen. Then we get to the preview,
1:05:26
we see all this bullshit with Christine getting the matchmaker when I think she meets
1:05:30
David online. We also see Mary still worrying about telling Robin and I hear
1:05:36
less just break it to her, break her way possible, and then we
1:05:42
see Janelle walking up into his assaults a Brava for an appointment. I thought
1:05:45
it was also Bravo. Looked like it's it do or maybe it's the fat
1:05:48
all in I bet with all the lemons but she's going into some sort of
1:05:53
a meeting with Cody Brown in which she says, yeah, bitch, I
1:05:57
think I want to stay separate it, and Cody shocked a little bit.
1:06:00
He does look surprised. Yeah, like, how dare you remember when Brown
1:06:06
his pop liked Janelle the best, thought she was a whipper snapper and a
1:06:12
firecracker, And he's like, you got a good one with Janelle. I
1:06:15
think that's always playing in his mind, that my dad loved Janelle best.
1:06:19
And so this idea that Janelle is going to leave him, I think it
1:06:24
is surprising him. But at the same time, I think he's intentionally orchestrated
1:06:28
everything so that she would leave. Of course, he wants everybody to leave
1:06:30
him, so he doesn't have to actually say those words to everybody, and
1:06:35
then he can play the victim forever and ever and ever and say that all
1:06:39
of my wives left me because of a miscommunication, a misunderstanding, because Robin
1:06:44
actually just cared about all of them and they just never bothered him to have
1:06:47
a relationship with her and her miss me with your bullshit. Well, thus
1:06:55
ends this episode. Is this is a good episode. There's a lot of
1:06:58
conversational Yeah, tidbits. I don't mind that we're dropped. Yeah, there
1:07:01
was a lot of good things. I just want it to become more overt.
1:07:04
Yes, I want Mary to start speaking up. I need more from
1:07:09
Janelle than just like information about the religion, right, I want more details
1:07:14
about what's been going on in this family that we have all sensed as psychic
1:07:17
raccoons. Yeah, in the psychic dopster. Yeah, we've been sensing it
1:07:20
for a long time. Like, I want more overt details. Thank you,
1:07:24
Yeah, thank you. And I'm a little worried because I'm like,
1:07:27
you're showing obviously in these talking heads some of these wives and Robin and Cody
1:07:31
what everybody else is saying as it's being filmed, and I'm like, don't
1:07:36
be doing this. Instead of a tell you better give me a tell all.
1:07:40
At the end of the season, we're going to raccoon riot if you
1:07:43
better get all better get rid of this suit. She ain't the one,
1:07:48
Cameron Hall, you better bring on somebody who has the nerve, well,
1:07:54
the uniqueness this way, the charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent to ask
1:07:59
Cody Andbin the hard questions and what if there was a world in which we
1:08:04
could get all of these bitches in one room, and so when somebody lies
1:08:09
like flat out, you've got somebody else in the room that can say,
1:08:12
oh, that's a fucking lie calling about Jesus. Is it too much to
1:08:15
ask? We've been watching for a decade. We deserve it as that we
1:08:18
have a fair and real tell all, we deserve it. I'm worked up,
1:08:24
we've been watching all of this. I'm a little drunk. You are
1:08:27
a little drunk. I work with a half a drink. Hey, I'm
1:08:30
skinny. Yeah, I mean it's got to eat on a body fat,
1:08:32
and so it doesn't take much to get this little squirt away. Well,
1:08:38
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1:08:41
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