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Diddy Rushed to Hospital after Prison Party-Life Exposed · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Tonight, Sean Combs, aka Diddy, aka Puffy, aka Puff, aka Love,
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  Speaker 1: aka Sean, rushed to the hospital with a head injury. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder how that happened. This after his prison party
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  Speaker 1: life exposed, including jailhouse massages to be specific, traditional Chinese
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  Speaker 1: massages with oils and incense, Hennessy, Flowing like a river,
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  Speaker 1: a private chef, a cell phone, nudies, even his own
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  Speaker 1: jailhouse Insta account. Good evening. I'm Nancy Grace. This is
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Diddy is back in the hole. How appropriate.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to do that.
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  Speaker 3: I was f * * * ed up.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I hit rock bottom.
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  Speaker 1: He got another month added on to his jail time.
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  Speaker 1: He's still getting out early.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody was making booze, and Diddy got a few cups
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  Speaker 4: of that, and he was caught.
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  Speaker 5: TMZ's report that on Saturday, October 10th, Diddy was rushed
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  Speaker 5: to the hospital at 1 a.m. after experiencing a severe
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  Speaker 5: and nasty fall. The report states that the ambulance arrived
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  Speaker 5: at Fort Dix at 1 a.m. to pick up Diddy,
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  Speaker 5: although the injuries appeared to be non-life-threatening as he was
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  Speaker 5: conscious and able to talk throughout the process. And he
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  Speaker 5: was returned back to the facility before sunrise.
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  Speaker 6: Another medical emergency suffered by Diddy, this time at the
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  Speaker 6: federal prison where he's been since he was convicted.
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  Speaker 2: Fort Dix in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 6: We're told that what happened on Friday night after midnight,
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  Speaker 6: sometime between midnight and one o'clock, an ambulance transported him
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  Speaker 6: out of the prison to get treatment for an.
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  Speaker 2: Injury to his head.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, what is he doing outside of his jail
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  Speaker 1: after midnight at a Chinese massage, getting oils rubbed into
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  Speaker 1: his body, maybe throwing back a crystal decanter glass, maybe
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  Speaker 1: one of those little bitty ones of Hennessy. Maybe he's
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  Speaker 1: enjoying food by his private chef. I don't know. But
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  Speaker 1: when you don't know what is happening, you look at
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  Speaker 1: what has happened. We know he was just put in
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  Speaker 1: the whole solitary confinement for a fight with another inmate.
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  Speaker 1: You want to tell me, did he just fell after midnight?
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  Speaker 1: That did not happen. That's my friends at FearNoQueen on TikTok,
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  Speaker 1: and of course, Harvey Levin at TMZ. Straight out to
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  Speaker 1: Tisa Tells joining us. Investigator, commentator, star of Tisa Tells
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube, who's been following Combs since she covered the trial. Tisa, Diddy,
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  Speaker 1: head injury, what happened?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so sources are saying that Diddy had some type
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  Speaker 4: of injury. Now, there are three things going around. One,
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  Speaker 4: Diddy has gotten Fort Dix in a kerfuffle. The inmates
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  Speaker 4: behind his scheme to hide his cell phone are mad
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  Speaker 4: because they are in solitary confinement with him and they
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  Speaker 4: are facing even harsher penalties. The guards that allegedly gave
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  Speaker 4: him this Hennessy and this premium liquor, they are also
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  Speaker 4: facing worse than disciplinary, they're facing charges and may be
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  Speaker 4: thrown out. People are saying that unlike outside where Diddy's
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  Speaker 4: little kingpin persona always got him through, this time people
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  Speaker 4: are paying him back and they are mad and they're angry.
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  Speaker 7: Now, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: They're saying this is not the first time that an
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  Speaker 4: inmate has gotten sick of Diddy, I am the king
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  Speaker 4: of the world act, and has tried to lay hands
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  Speaker 4: on him. But they are saying... That this time, Diddy
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  Speaker 4: made a big deal out of it. He wanted everybody
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  Speaker 4: to know he was injured and he wanted to be
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  Speaker 4: rushed to the hospital because he looks like two or
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  Speaker 4: three days short from being permanently kicked out of the
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  Speaker 4: RDAP program. Automatically by computers, administratively, and nobody on the
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  Speaker 4: inside that may be taking payoffs can stop this automatic kickoff.
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  Speaker 4: So he did get hands placed on him. There was
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  Speaker 4: an injury to the head. People are saying he was
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  Speaker 4: hoping they would keep him hospitalized for a longer time
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  Speaker 4: to stop this automatic kickoff. However, they sent him right
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  Speaker 4: back a few hours and said, there is nothing wrong
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  Speaker 4: with you. And he got sent back to solitary confinement.
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  Speaker 8: I think whether you got somebody as high profile as
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  Speaker 8: Diddy and there's any kind of a head injury.
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  Speaker 2: They're just thinking.
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  Speaker 8: We just got to make sure that there isn't some
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  Speaker 8: underlying thing here that could create a major problem.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's from Harvey Levin, our friend at TMZ, to Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Dwayne Hendricks. You know him well, former senior warden with
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  Speaker 1: the Federal Bureau of Prisons, 30 years experience in public safety,
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  Speaker 1: now private consultant in high demand, helping correctional agencies improve
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  Speaker 1: access to behavioral health services. He's also an author of
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  Speaker 1: Who Are You? See It, Say It, Seize It. Dr. Hendricks,
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  Speaker 1: did you hear what Harvey Levin just said? That when
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  Speaker 1: you have a person with a high profile like Sean Combs,
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  Speaker 1: you got to make sure that he's safe. After a
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  Speaker 1: head injury? A. Why just him? What about the other inmates?
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  Speaker 1: Why is he so special? This is your neck of
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  Speaker 1: the woods, Hendricks. Why is he getting preferential treatment? And
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  Speaker 1: I haven't even gotten to the Chinese massages. I had
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  Speaker 1: to look that up. With oils and incense. How in
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  Speaker 1: the hay is he getting oils and incense behind bars? Hennessy,
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  Speaker 1: a private chef. Have you seen what the chef is
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  Speaker 1: cooking for him? Let's show Hendricks. I bet you don't
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  Speaker 1: get this for supper. Okay, he is getting, there you go.
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  Speaker 1: He's now going to the Jamaican population for Jamaican food.
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  Speaker 1: He's getting curry chicken. He's getting onion rings. He's getting empanadas.
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  Speaker 1: He's getting pizza. He's getting beef over seasoned rice. All
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  Speaker 1: of this cooked with a special underwater cooking apparatus.
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  Speaker 9: What?
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  Speaker 1: None of the wardens have seen an underwater cooking apparatus.
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  Speaker 1: They haven't seen the bottles of Hennessy. Forget about the
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  Speaker 1: nude photos being sent to him. And he has a
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  Speaker 1: jailhouse Insta account. Why has he rushed to the hospital
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  Speaker 1: and not the other inmates? Let's just start with that, Hendricks.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me, Dr. Hendricks.
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  Speaker 10: Well, first of all, all inmates that are injured or
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  Speaker 10: ill or anything like that in the middle of the
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  Speaker 10: night or in the day, if there's a medical emergency,
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  Speaker 10: They'll have to be taken out if staff there cannot
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  Speaker 10: handle whatever incident that occurred. Just like Tisa mentioned, he
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  Speaker 10: has created this environment in that facility where he's created
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  Speaker 10: a lot of heat towards the other inmates because they're suffering.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't create it. No, no, Hendricks. The jailhouse helped
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  Speaker 1: him create it. You want to tell me the guards
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  Speaker 1: don't know that he's yucking it up with that cell phone?
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  Speaker 1: Even I've seen video of him on his cell phone
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  Speaker 1: a thousand miles away, and they haven't. So it's not
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  Speaker 1: all him. People are colluding with him. Four inmates that
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  Speaker 1: served him like slaves spoke to NBC with the condition of, oh,
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  Speaker 1: there it is. There you go. I'm just going to
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  Speaker 1: refer to him as 054. What is that in his hand, Hendrix?
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  Speaker 1: What is that?
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  Speaker 10: That is a cell phone.
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  Speaker 5: And you're right.
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  Speaker 2: You're right.
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  Speaker 10: Two things can be true. There's definitely some colluding. There's
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  Speaker 10: definitely some major complacency within that facility. But at the
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  Speaker 10: same time, inmates have a subculture. And I'm not sitting
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  Speaker 10: here and say that it's right. I'm just saying these
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  Speaker 10: people live there and they're going to do anything and
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  Speaker 10: everything they can to be comfortable in those facilities and
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  Speaker 10: But he's not abiding by the rules of the inmate culture.
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  Speaker 10: If they have cell phones, if they have drugs, if
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  Speaker 10: they have alcohol, even if they have food that is
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  Speaker 10: being made by other inmates, you're supposed to try to
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  Speaker 10: stay as silent and as quiet as possible. Because at
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  Speaker 10: the end of the day, because of his celebrity and
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  Speaker 10: because he wants to come in prison and act like
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  Speaker 10: he's Diddy, you know, the music mogul and all of
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  Speaker 10: this and all that inside the facility. That's not how
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  Speaker 10: you're supposed to operate within the prison setting. Again, I'm
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  Speaker 10: not advocating for anything that he's doing wrong. And whoever,
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  Speaker 10: whatever staff that are in there not doing what they
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  Speaker 10: need to be doing, they should be held accountable.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how much more I can take. That
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  Speaker 1: cell phone footage I showed you is from our friends
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  Speaker 1: over at NBC. And I got a new moniker for you. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
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  Speaker 1: We shoulda fixed it. We coulda fixed it. We woulda
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  Speaker 1: fixed it. But we didn't fix it. Let me ask
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  Speaker 1: you this.
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  Speaker 4: Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Hendricks. How do you think it makes the other inmates feel,
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  Speaker 1: the thousands of inmates, to walk by Diddy's cell and
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  Speaker 1: get a whiff of chicken curry or empanadas or onion rings?
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  Speaker 1: How do you think that makes them feel as he's
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  Speaker 1: scrolling through his news? He's even got a tablet to
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  Speaker 1: watch TV and movies. And I understand he's obsessed with
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  Speaker 1: Fiddy's documentary on him, Vowing Revenge. How do you think
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  Speaker 1: it makes them feel?
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  Speaker 10: Well, it's just like anything else. They need to get
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  Speaker 10: their money up or get their weight up, as they say,
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  Speaker 10: inside the facility. And of course, it makes them jealous
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  Speaker 10: of him, but at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: They need to do what?
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what?
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  Speaker 1: Who needs to do what, Hendrix?
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  Speaker 10: They need to get their money up and they need
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  Speaker 10: to get their weight up in terms of their influence.
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  Speaker 10: That will be the moniker inside a facility.
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  Speaker 1: That's your answer. They need to get more money and
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  Speaker 1: more weight to do what?
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  Speaker 10: No, to do the things that he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't even make any sense.
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  Speaker 5: Being in prison doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 1: Mute him. Cut his mic right now. Okay. Lynn Shaw,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to address what Dr. Dwayne Hendricks just said.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of saying, you know what, the other inmates feel
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  Speaker 1: like crap because he's getting all of these special privileges
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  Speaker 1: behind bars and they're getting, I gave up cursing when
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  Speaker 1: the twins were born, they're getting nothing, nothing. And Hendricks'
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  Speaker 1: answer is the other inmates need to get their money
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  Speaker 1: and their weight up so they can fight back and
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  Speaker 1: pay for special favors. That's not what I was expecting
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  Speaker 1: from Mr. Straight Arrow, Dr. Dwayne Hendricks. But Lynn Shaw,
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  Speaker 1: before I introduce you fully, I want you to watch this.
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  Speaker 9: You can do it.
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  Speaker 7: You can be whoever you want.
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  Speaker 2: You can be eating mango, too, with the ocean as
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  Speaker 2: your backyard.
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  Speaker 3: I ain't special.
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  Speaker 2: I just want it. I want it bad. You feel me?
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  Speaker 11: I'm not going to allow myself to not have mango.
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  Speaker 1: That's from Diddy's Insta. Oh, by the way, he still
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  Speaker 1: has an Insta. It's his jailhouse Insta. Lynn, when you
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  Speaker 1: don't know what someone... will do, you look at what
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  Speaker 1: they've already done. Did you really think Sean Combs was
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  Speaker 1: going to go behind bars and live like a monk? No.
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  Speaker 1: It makes me sick when I look at that and
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  Speaker 1: I look at how he is using other inmates that
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  Speaker 1: are now in the whole solitary themselves. Four inmates come
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  Speaker 1: forward to NBC and talk about Diddy's lavish life behind
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  Speaker 1: bars and they're so afraid they only speak under the
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  Speaker 1: condition of anonymity because they're worried What will happen to
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  Speaker 1: them by Diddy's people on the outside?
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  Speaker 12: Right?
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  Speaker 1: You remember that car bomb? Remember that? Seen that car
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  Speaker 1: blown up? Allegedly at Diddy's. There you go. You think
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  Speaker 1: he can't orchestrate that from behind bars? I got mobsters
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  Speaker 1: running mobs behind bars. They're speaking on anonymity conditions because
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  Speaker 1: they're scared. They're scared, Lynn. Because he can have whatever
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  Speaker 1: he wants, whenever he wants it, behind bars. And Hendricks'
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  Speaker 1: answer is the others, the other inmates need to weigh
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  Speaker 1: up and money up. What in the H-E-double-L?
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  Speaker 7: Nancy, I am infuriated. The dirty ditty party continues. He's
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  Speaker 7: in federal prison and he's still getting and demanding the
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  Speaker 7: VIP treatment. Well, you know who's not getting the VIP treatment?
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  Speaker 7: Those victims, alleged victims that came forward during the trial.
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  Speaker 7: They talked about their abuse. They talked about sex trafficking.
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  Speaker 7: They talked about everything they endured. And in this conversation,
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  Speaker 7: we're forgetting about all of them that came forward. Now, again,
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  Speaker 7: allegations because he wasn't convicted of sex trafficking. He was
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  Speaker 7: convicted of the Mann Act. OK, engaging in transportation for
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  Speaker 7: sex trafficking, prostitution, I guess. But here's the thing. Let's
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  Speaker 7: talk about the justice system.
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  Speaker 1: Dr.
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  Speaker 7: Hendricks, I don't understand all of this. If I didn't
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  Speaker 7: know better, this is like something out of the movie,
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  Speaker 7: The Goodfellows, okay? All of this criminality, all of these
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  Speaker 7: perks he's allowed, and our women and some men who
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  Speaker 7: came forward during the trials, and you know what? What
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  Speaker 7: about all their trauma? What about justice for them as
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  Speaker 7: they're watching all of this unfold? Because we stand with them. OK,
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  Speaker 7: and what about even though he wasn't convicted of sex trafficking?
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  Speaker 7: Those allegations should not be a footnote with all of this.
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  Speaker 7: History tells us what this man is like, and he's
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  Speaker 7: a freak. So I'm not understanding why he's allowed to
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  Speaker 7: have all these perks. I'm tired of hearing, you know,
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  Speaker 7: the power, the power takes over, you know, the powerless.
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  Speaker 7: He's in federal prison and he's nude images and he's
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  Speaker 7: got people scrubbing his toilet firm and making him Jamaican
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  Speaker 7: pies and things like that. Enough, shut this down. Who's
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  Speaker 7: holding the prison responsible? And again, this is about the victims.
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  Speaker 7: We're not remembering them in all of this conversation and
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  Speaker 7: the justice system. Is it still so antiquated that we
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  Speaker 7: give the powerful, those we deem with the money, okay,
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  Speaker 7: and this power, he's a mogul, whatever, we give them
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  Speaker 7: over victims. It's about the justice system right now with
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  Speaker 7: this dirty ditty.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what?
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  Speaker 7: If I didn't know better, I think he smacked himself
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  Speaker 7: in the head so we could get out and be
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  Speaker 7: in the headlines again.
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  Speaker 13: They alleged that it had been happening for almost a year.
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  Speaker 13: They were smuggling cell phones, cell phone charging blocks, eight
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  Speaker 13: ounces of THC wax, and 10 vapes into prison. Prosecutors
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  Speaker 13: alleged during this conspiracy, over $ 100, 000 was transferred among co-conspirators
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  Speaker 13: through electronic payments such as Zelle, Apple Pay, Cash App,
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  Speaker 13: and Vemo for all of this contraband. To make some
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  Speaker 13: of the things that the other inmates were alleging about
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  Speaker 13: Diddy and seeing the photos and videos of him with
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  Speaker 13: this cell phone pretty interesting.
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  Speaker 3: They spoke to a prison warden and they said it
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  Speaker 3: does happen. It happens a lot. In fact, cell phones
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  Speaker 3: are an absolute, not a luxury, people have cell phones
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  Speaker 3: in prison. They're not allowed to But he said, it's
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  Speaker 3: like pretending drugs don't exist in prison. They get in.
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  Speaker 3: And I did ask, how? And he said, drones. They
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  Speaker 3: can't stop drones flying over the walls and dropping stuff
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  Speaker 3: and then flying off. Diddy is promising people in jail
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  Speaker 3: that if you look after me, when I get out,
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  Speaker 3: when you get out, I will look after your family.
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  Speaker 3: I'll look after you. You'll come and work for bad boy.
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  Speaker 3: And I know what Diddy's like. Diddy can be in
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  Speaker 3: the shower, and if he hears someone rapping, he'll be like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a record deal. Will you
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  Speaker 3: just go and fold my laundry? Like, he makes you
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  Speaker 3: do stuff with promises that he never, ever delivers on.
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  Speaker 1: That was first Khadija Lynn on TikTok and The Nerve
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  Speaker 1: with our friend Maureen Callahan and, of course, Rob Shooter. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let me understand something. Dave Mack joining us, Crime Stories
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter. I want to get to the head injury,
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  Speaker 1: but before I get to Diddy's head injury, which he
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  Speaker 1: absolutely did not get from a fall.
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  Speaker 14: No.
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  Speaker 1: What is he out doing wandering around after midnight to fall?
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  Speaker 1: But that said, Dave Mack, what are all of the privileges,
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  Speaker 1: his party life behind bars? I've mentioned the Chinese massage,
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  Speaker 1: which I had to look up to find out what
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  Speaker 1: is a Chinese massage. You can explain that to everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Specially prepared foods, including homemade. Oh, my goodness. Wait, how'd
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  Speaker 1: that get up there? I was talking about food, and
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  Speaker 1: there he is getting a facial. That was right before
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  Speaker 1: he went behind bars, but he's still getting massages, facials,
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  Speaker 1: you name it, special food, nudes sent to him that
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  Speaker 1: he watches on his private cell phone, his own tablet
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  Speaker 1: to watch TV and movies on. Liquor, and I mean
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  Speaker 1: high-priced liquor like Hennessy, is smuggled in by guards. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what else is happening, Dave Mack? Give me the full rundown,
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  Speaker 1: and you can explain Chinese massage better than me.
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  Speaker 12: Well, you know, I had to look it up, Nancy,
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  Speaker 12: because we found out that it was a very specific
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  Speaker 12: Chinese massage. It's called tui na. Tui na is a
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  Speaker 12: massage that applies rhythmic pressure with the fingers and palm
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  Speaker 12: or the thumb. Helping to promote blood flow.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 12: Grasping, gently grasping.
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  Speaker 1: Blood flow to what? Excuse me, Dave Mack. Blood flow
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  Speaker 1: to what?
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  Speaker 12: The design of this massage, Nancy, is to relieve muscular tension.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 12: I've never had one of these. I'm not exactly sure
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  Speaker 12: what the goal is. But other things associated with this,
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  Speaker 12: you've got the grasping, gently grasping, lifting and squeezing muscles
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  Speaker 12: and soft tissue. But there's also pressing, which is applying steady,
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  Speaker 12: controlled pressure to specific points or areas using a thumb,
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  Speaker 12: finger or the palm again. And then rubbing, it's called Mo,
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  Speaker 12: using a circular or linear hand movement over the skin
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  Speaker 12: and underlying tissue. This is not a massage that is
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  Speaker 12: done totally nude either, Nancy. It's actually with loose clothing
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  Speaker 12: or under a sheet. Now, the other amenity or the.
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  Speaker 1: Other special treatment. I really don't want to think about
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  Speaker 1: Sean Combs without his clothes on. Ever since I had
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  Speaker 1: to hear about him completely naked except for a woman's burka,
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  Speaker 1: watching him. forced sex with Cassie Ventura and a group
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: of other guys. I don't want to think about that.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: But you know what? Dr. Bethany Marshall joining us, renowned
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: psychoanalyst on Hulu, on Peacock, on Bravo, her new hit podcast,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: On the Couch with Dr. Bethany Marshall. You can find
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: her at drbethanymarshall.com. Dr. Bethany, did you just hear Dave
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Mack naively question what is the goal of What is
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the purpose of the lifting and the squeezing of Sean Combs'
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: body parts?
• 19:46
  Speaker 9: The goal is a happy ending vis-a-vis Sean. Diddy Combs'
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: Tootsie Roll, as we've talked about so many times. You know, Nancy,
• 19:54
  Speaker 9: he's created the same hierarchical power structure in the prison
• 19:59
  Speaker 9: that he had outside where he subjugates others so that
• 20:03
  Speaker 9: all benefits flow to him. So outside the prison, what
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: benefits flow to him? Alcohol, sex, money, and power. And
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: he subjugated others to get that. What's happening inside the prison?
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: What is he getting? Sex, money, and power.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: To Troy Slayton joining us, veteran trial lawyer out of L.A. Troy,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I want to hear your response to what is happening
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: with Sean Combs. And I haven't even gotten to his
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: head injury.
• 20:39
  Speaker 15: I think your beef, Nancy, should not be with Sean
• 20:42
  Speaker 15: Combs himself, but rather the prison administration officials that are
• 20:48
  Speaker 15: enabling and allowing it. He's not getting these things out
• 20:51
  Speaker 15: of thin air. He has money. So he could put
• 20:54
  Speaker 15: money on his commissary and buy things that are available
• 20:57
  Speaker 15: to all other inmates. But if he's able to get
• 21:00
  Speaker 15: things like Hennessy, cell phones, tablets, guess who that's on?
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: That's on the guards. That's on... The.
• 21:09
  Speaker 15: Prison administration, just like the warden was telling us, this
• 21:14
  Speaker 15: is not Sean Combs' fault. It's like blaming the dog
• 21:18
  Speaker 15: because he ate the turkey that was left on the counter.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: That's your fault. That's not the dog's fault.
• 21:25
  Speaker 15: So I think that your beef here should not be
• 21:28
  Speaker 15: with Sean Diddy Combs, who's taking advantage of the things
• 21:32
  Speaker 15: that are being allowed to him.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: It's when Diddy decides for his comeback, he's going to
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: lean in. to what a tough gangster he was in jail.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: And you telling the world that you did his laundry
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: and massaged him does not fit that narrative. So he
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: is going to want no part of you. He's going
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: to make up some really fantastical story of being in
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: a tough jail and really suffering. And he doesn't want
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: some queen out there who happened to be on the
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: same ward as him saying I folded his sheets.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: That's from The Nerve with Maureen Callaghan and our friend
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Rob Sheeter. Dr. Bethany Marshall, just think about what Sheeter
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: just said. He's going to come out of behind bars,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: and he's going to be the tough guy that did
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: hard jail time. Like, you know, Johnny Cash, as much
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: as he sang about doing hard time, I think he
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: only did a couple of days over a minor infraction,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: but it made his career, right? And I love Johnny Cash.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: But can I ask you how... This is going to
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: work for Sean Combs because Johnny Cash didn't have, as
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Rob Shooter just said, some queen out there who happened
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: to be in the same ward saying, I folded his sheets.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: His words, not mine. That said, it worked for Johnny Cash.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Is it going to work for Sean Combs? Because he's
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: coming out with all this street cred when the whole
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: time he's chillaxing with Hennessy and a tablet and a
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: cell phone and Jamaican Dirt Chicken.
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: But you know, Nancy, P. Diddy knows how to write
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: his own narrative, how to distort reality. He, you know,
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: I have never examined him in person, but he appears
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: to just be lying constantly. And so I have no
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: doubt that he'll be able to flip the script and
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: act like a tough guy when he gets out. And
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: you know what happens when somebody says something long enough,
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: it becomes true to his followers.
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: And you know what?
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: If they don't believe the tough guy stuff, then he'll
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: just send one of his goons after them. He'll suppress them.
• 23:38
  Speaker 9: He'll cut off their money supply. He does anything possible
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: to resuscitate his image. As Shooter said, getting on a plane,
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: remember the private plane where he stopped everybody so they
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: could photograph from a different angle? He knows how to
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: polish his image. But you know, Nancy, what makes me
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: sad about this whole story is Cassie Ventura, when he
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: beat her, And that tape that finally got released, he
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: offered $ 100, 000 to the staff at the hotel to suppress
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: the tape. Now prison guards are being seduced by the
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: promise of money on the outside, cash flowing maybe to
• 24:19
  Speaker 9: their family and friends in various forms. Prison guards, people
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: on the inside, are being corrupted as well. And Nancy,
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: it has to stop. There has to be people, have
• 24:30
  Speaker 9: to be people outside these empires who simply say no.
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: Or he's threatening them that if they don't cover up
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: for him, he'll go after their families. That's another possibility
• 24:43
  Speaker 9: as well.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 24:45
  Speaker 14: Diddy working out the mafia role. Then he's a gangster doc.
• 24:53
  Speaker 14: He got in there cooking sausage and spaghetti.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I'm sure. I heard it was.
• 24:59
  Speaker 14: Chinese food one of the times. But that's the mafia play.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: You go in there.
• 25:04
  Speaker 14: You're a low level camp because you're fed and you
• 25:08
  Speaker 14: pay the cats to be your staff. That's right. That's
• 25:15
  Speaker 14: mafia style, Doc. If you can pay, you can get that.
• 25:19
  Speaker 14: Some of them have to pay anyways. Some celebrities got
• 25:22
  Speaker 14: to pay anyway, so you might as well get some
• 25:25
  Speaker 14: out of it. In other words, no, that's more violent prisons.
• 25:28
  Speaker 14: In the state prisons, celebrities got to pay, Doc. They
• 25:32
  Speaker 14: don't care about you being famous and all that.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: You're rich.
• 25:35
  Speaker 14: That's what we do know.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Tell it, Mathis. That's from the Art of Dialogue. To
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Lynn Shaw joining us. She's the founder. and the executive
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: director of Lynn's Warriors. She's a star of Lynn's Warriors
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: on YouTube and has devoted her life to nonprofit eradicating
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: sex abuse on girls and women. Lynn, all of this
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: lifestyle of the rich and famous, even behind bars, is
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: of course irritating, but it's subterfuge about what this is
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: really about. people are still looking up to Sean Combs.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: They are still giving him special favors. They're still doing
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: his bidding. I mean, cleaning out his commode, his jail toilet.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: You want to clean the toilet after Sean Combs? I don't.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: His shower before he puts one little toe in there.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: All this special food made with a special cooking apparatus
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: that's hidden underwater, something like that. The guards, part of it,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: bringing in Hennessy to him. He's got his own tablet
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: to Look at porn. Look at nudes. Ex-girlfriends sending him
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: that and probably others. Movies, TV, the works. He's got
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: a butler. He has jailhouse slaves that he's paying. And
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: it's all okay because it's Diddy. That's just what his
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: sex attack victims endured. They wouldn't speak out because, hey,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: it's Diddy. Nobody will believe me. Even a jury.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: Well, I have news for you, Nancy. I predict, first
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: of all, I want to say something. The women of Tuna,
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: those women in the business we do, we work with
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: victims of sex trafficking, not only in the United States,
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: but around the world. And they are known for being
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: women and girls sex trafficked. So you connect the dots
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: right there. Okay, next thing is we've got all these
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: victims now, again, looking at this in the headlines about
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: his cooking and the food and the making of the
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: bed and he's exchanging nude images and all this. What
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: does this do overall for victims of sex trafficking and abuse?
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: They will not come forward. because they're looking at this case. Again,
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: it's the power, it's the wealth. That's all that matters
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: to everybody. The justice system does not work for us.
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: So we'll keep our mouths shut and all of this
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: predation and criminality will just continue. And I have news
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: for you. Why are we locking up teenage girls and
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: accusing them of prostitution? You know, they throw away the
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: keys basically. I've worked on so many of those cases,
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: but this guy in our face with all of this
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: and everybody's laughing about it.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: This is not funny.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: This is our justice system in the United States. And again,
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: it is showing preferential treatment for power and wealth. But
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: I have news for you. There's a lot more warriors
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: on the road. And when he gets out of prison,
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: I don't think his life, he can try all he
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: wants and spread his wealth around. I don't think his
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: life is going to be near the same. He may
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: hire a great PR firm and he's doing great and
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: he's gangster, but he's going to go down. His career,
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: in my opinion, is over. And I hope I get
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: to come back and talk about that because that's what's
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: going to happen to him. He will not last in
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: our new world, our new environment.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Troy Slayton with me, veteran defense attorney out of L.A. Troy,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: you know, for him to get access to TV shows
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and movies and he's watching 50s documentary on him comes
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: over and over and over. Then he has to go
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: get a Chinese massage to, you know, work it all out.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: You have to get through a firewall. Somebody helped him
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: get through the prison firewall, the, you know, Wi-Fi firewall.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Who did that? You want to tell me somebody within
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the prison didn't help him? I don't believe that. And
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: did you hear what was said about drones? Items being
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: dropped to him by drone? Somebody's got to get that
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: and give it to him. It's not just the other inmates.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: It's not just Sean Combs. Interesting.
• 29:40
  Speaker 15: He also has to survive inspections and so that comes
• 29:43
  Speaker 15: back to the prison staff Nancy it is the prison
• 29:46
  Speaker 15: staff that is allowing all this to happen and he
• 29:51
  Speaker 15: doesn't even necessarily need Wi-Fi access for a tablet it
• 29:54
  Speaker 15: could come preloaded with all of the content that he
• 29:58
  Speaker 15: is seeking Nancy And so, look, I don't know the
• 30:01
  Speaker 15: difference between Chinese massage and shiatsu.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Put him up.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I prefer Thai massage myself.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: He's getting through the firewall because he's got an insta.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: That could be posted by any.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Of his staff. He's getting through the firewall.
• 30:16
  Speaker 15: That's not necessarily posted by him. It could be staff.
• 30:20
  Speaker 15: It could be people outside. And so what you're really
• 30:23
  Speaker 15: upset about is a billionaire saying, is a billionaire. He
• 30:28
  Speaker 15: wasn't convicted of RICO. I won't remind you that you
• 30:32
  Speaker 15: and other guests predicted that he would be convicted on RICO.
• 30:36
  Speaker 15: He was convicted of transportation for the purposes of prostitution.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: And so he's in.
• 30:42
  Speaker 15: A low-level federal facility, Fort Dix, He's not in maximum security.
• 30:50
  Speaker 15: He's not in a super max. He's not there with
• 30:53
  Speaker 15: violent criminals. He's there with the lowest level criminals that
• 30:57
  Speaker 15: we have in the federal system. And so, you know,
• 31:01
  Speaker 15: money talks and BS walks. And so he has the money.
• 31:05
  Speaker 15: You know what?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Speaking of BS, speaking of BS, some of that was
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: obtained by NBC. Speaking of BS, Lynn Shaw, I saw
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the video of him beating Cassie Ventura. I don't care
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: what that jury did. He beat her. She's not the
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: only one. He forced one woman to get out and
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: go back into a forced orgy after she was vomiting
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: and covered in bruises. Remember her in the shower? It
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: goes on and on and on. All those women weren't lying.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: So I don't care what Troy Slayton's putting perfume on
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the pig. tonight, but that happened. And now he's getting
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: preferential treatment behind bars. I just, I just don't know
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: when it's going to end.
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: All of these women, again, I remind everybody, maybe he
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: wasn't convicted of sex trafficking and Rico, we don't care. Morally,
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: maybe I have to become the morality police around here.
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: We have him beating Cassie, throwing her around, forcing women,
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: force for coercion. We saw that even though he wasn't
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: convicted of that. This is just a repeat of all
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: of that. How this is allowed to go on, why
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: people aren't marching on this jail. I pointed out we're
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: throwing girls, teens in jails across America. arresting them for
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: prostitution when we question it well we have no youth
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: facilities to put them in so we're going to leave
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: them in jails and mix them in with adults that's
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: happening but this guy he's got cookers he's got people
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: waiting on him this is disgraceful i don't understand any
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: of this why are we even talking about this our
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: justice system is upside down who's going to go to
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: this prison who's going to call them out i'd like
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: somebody here to weigh in on that who's going to
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: end this Okay. Who is going to stop this monster?
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: This dirty diddy freak.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: He didn't call them freak offs for nothing. Who's going
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: to stop him?
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Because you know what?
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: When there's no accountability, it just keeps escalating and getting worse.
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: And again, this is a mark on our justice system,
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: a black mark. And it's also why our girls and
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: women and men and boys too will not come forward
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: when they say to me repeatedly, money and power. That's
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: what it's all about. We will not come forward.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: This is disgusting. To Tisa Tells joining us, pop culture investigator.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: She's the star of Tisa Tells on YouTube. And she
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: has been on Sean Combs' case from the very beginning.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I want to hear about the head injury. Then I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: want to hear about him losing that half a million
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: dollar lawsuit against NBC. You start wherever you want.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: So when it comes down to Sean Combs' head injury,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: a lot of people think this is payback and get
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: back for his loss. As horrible as it is to
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: the justice system, and at least Fort Dix seems to
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: be looking the other way and allowing it, there is
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: an internal investigation. People are saying that this is get back.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: People are tired of his prima donna attitude. People are
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: tired of him touting the rules, but then everybody has
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: to pay for it. Yes, just like Dr. Lindshall said,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: this is a repeat of the behavior we.
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: Saw outside of jail.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: And it really disheartens a lot of people because it
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: looks like he has not changed at all. But this
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: head injury, believe it or not, might be the beginning
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: of the end for Diddy. Again, let's not forget, he
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: has been in solitary confinement since September 30th. that whole
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: early release program that he's in, if he goes past
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: 15 days, he is automatically kicked out, which means he,
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: all that good time he got will be called back,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: which also means the guards are facing between five and
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: 20 if found that they were passing contraband and alcohol
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: to inmates, which means Diddy could be facing a minimum of, well,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: at least up to a year additional time. The thing
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: about the head injury is, It looks like Diddy and
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: his ways have finally caught up to him. Justice seems
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: to be delayed, but thanks to Diddy's own actions, it
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: does not seem to be deferred. That head injury... It
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: says a lot. A lot of people do think that
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: it is karma coming, but it does signal the beginning
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: of the end. And him being rushed to the hospital
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: because of that and sit back in less than 24 hours. Again,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: the time is ticking. People said that he might have
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: wanted to go to the hospital to see if he
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: can pause this administrative crackdown. But to Noah Bell. So
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Diddy's head injury, again, a lot of things going on.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: And I think for all the advocates, whether you wanted
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: the justices to deal with them, whether you thought he
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: deserved karma, it seems to be all coming at him
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: and hitting him fast.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Again, somebody laid hands on him.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Somebody did it so well that he had to go
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: to the hospital. And again, this investigation is heating up
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: and it's going faster and faster because his antics that
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: used to work outside where there was no oversight, inside
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: the closed jail or prison, even though we think nothing's happening,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: it looks like there is going to be justice this time.
• 36:19
  Speaker 16: Something disrespectful was said about his family. So then they
• 36:21
  Speaker 16: started shoving each other. And then I was told that
• 36:23
  Speaker 16: they didn't even shove each other or get into it
• 36:25
  Speaker 16: physically long before the guards came in. Now, I push
• 36:28
  Speaker 16: back on that because I was told something completely different
• 36:31
  Speaker 16: from the original source who caught me, who even told
• 36:33
  Speaker 16: me that the fight happened. I was told that this
• 36:34
  Speaker 16: had something to do with Diddy allegedly smoking cigarettes in
• 36:37
  Speaker 16: an unauthorized area. And the inmates were upset because they
• 36:40
  Speaker 16: were worried about searches that would happen if the guards
• 36:43
  Speaker 16: found out the cigarettes were being smoked in a certain area.
• 36:45
  Speaker 16: But this is what I was told as to why
• 36:47
  Speaker 16: the fight happened.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: What people don't know, he got the whole.
• 36:53
  Speaker 11: His whole side raided because he was smoking in an
• 36:58
  Speaker 11: unrestricted area or he was smoking cigarettes and he in
• 37:01
  Speaker 11: the program that he don't supposed to have no kind
• 37:03
  Speaker 11: of nicotine, no alcohol, no nothing. So what he did
• 37:06
  Speaker 11: was he got the dorm area in which he was
• 37:13
  Speaker 11: a part of raided where they went in there and
• 37:16
  Speaker 11: they start confiscating stuff and they end up getting one
• 37:19
  Speaker 11: guy's phone. And the guy got real upset.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: If you get.
• 37:22
  Speaker 11: A phone taken from you in jail, you're going to
• 37:26
  Speaker 11: get some time for that. So if you get us,
• 37:28
  Speaker 11: if you get our dorm raided, because you don't know
• 37:33
  Speaker 11: how to get away with smoking a cigarette and you
• 37:36
  Speaker 11: smoking something in an unrestricted area or whatever like that,
• 37:38
  Speaker 11: and we get a raid from that and they find
• 37:41
  Speaker 11: my phone and I get in trouble, what you think.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Is going to happen, bro?
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: That's from The Breakfast Club and The Art of Dialogue.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, to you, Dr. Bethany Marshall, In my prison experience,
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  Speaker 1: you get somebody else's cell rated, you're going to get
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  Speaker 1: a beat down. You know, that's right, Nancy.
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  Speaker 9: And it reminds me of so many defendants who go
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  Speaker 9: to their court hearings, and they're very powerful in society.
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  Speaker 9: They're powerful when they're dominating their victims. But one day
• 38:09
  Speaker 9: in court, they fall apart, like Michael Jackson, who came
• 38:12
  Speaker 9: to court in the pajamas with the spider bites. Where
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  Speaker 9: I'm going with this is that this big, tough guy,
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: meeting criteria for sociopathic personality disorder, relating to others on
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: the basis of power, brutalizing other people. It just may
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: not work in that particular setting. He may be in
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: a setting, a group psychology for the first time ever
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  Speaker 9: in his life where there might be a bigger fish
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  Speaker 9: than him because it's not sex, money, and power are
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: not the only tools at everybody's disposal in that prison.
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: They're the tools that P.
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  Speaker 7: Diddy uses.
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  Speaker 9: But some of those guys are huge and they pump
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  Speaker 9: iron and they have gang affiliations and they have their
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  Speaker 9: own language and they know how to sneak and they
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: know how to make a shank. They know how to brutalize.
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: You know, he is out of his element here. And
• 39:09
  Speaker 9: if I were him, I'd be glad to be in
• 39:10
  Speaker 9: solitary confinement because at least he's safe. And the side
• 39:15
  Speaker 9: of this that we're not talking about as much, Nancy,
• 39:17
  Speaker 9: we talk about all the benefits flowing to him, but
• 39:20
  Speaker 9: he's also brutalizing potentially prisoners who are more vulnerable than him.
• 39:27
  Speaker 9: So I wouldn't be surprised if we have... like a
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: Jeffrey Epstein at some point. I mean, I just keep
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: thinking about that with this story. Is he going to
• 39:36
  Speaker 9: be taken out at some point? Because there's a lot
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: to dislike about P. Diddy, especially if you're that group
• 39:44
  Speaker 9: of guys behind bars.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Dave Mack, what can you tell me about Sean Combs
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: losing a half a million dollar lawsuit against NBC.
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  Speaker 12: Well, Nancy, he actually sued NBC Universal for $ 100 million.
• 39:58
  Speaker 12: It was a defamation lawsuit. over the documentary Diddy, The
• 40:03
  Speaker 12: Making of a Bad Boy. He claimed that it defamed him.
• 40:07
  Speaker 12: Judge actually dismissed the $ 100 million lawsuit and ruled the
• 40:13
  Speaker 12: documentary did not cause additional harm to his reputation because
• 40:16
  Speaker 12: it was already heavily damaged by prior criminal charges, and
• 40:20
  Speaker 12: then turned around And NBCUniversal requested nearly a million in
• 40:25
  Speaker 12: lawyer costs, but the judge cut that and makes Combs
• 40:29
  Speaker 12: have to pay $ 477, 000- plus.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds, if it does, in the
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: case of Sean Combs. And tonight, we remember American hero
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Sergeant Brian Mull, Connecticut State Police, killed in the line
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  Speaker 1: of duty after 27 years on the force. leaving behind
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  Speaker 1: his wife Susan and children Brian, Peter, and Samantha. American
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  Speaker 1: hero Sergeant Brian Moll. Thank you to our guests, but
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: especially to you for being with us. Nancy Gray signing
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  Speaker 1: off for tonight, but I'll see you tomorrow night. And
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  Speaker 1: until then, good night, friend.