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David Kaplan on the 1st place Bears, Steven M. Sipple talks Huskers/Iowa & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  I'm Millie Condon. Welcome back.
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  Hour number two, it's the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  Trenton can with an hour to go before we turn things over off
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  the bench. Coming up at 2:00.
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  Lucas and Sean take you until 5. Let's get to Chicago, shall we,
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  Steven? I'm simple.
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  Still to come this hour on Nebraska and Iowa, but Centurion
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  Stone of Iowa sponsors Cappy's weekly spot.
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  And here he is. Oh, Capper.
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  Happy Thanksgiving. How are you?
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  Happy Thanksgiving to you guys. I hope you're all doing.
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  Well. Absolutely are Cap.
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  Thank you for asking. So the Bears, the beat goes on.
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  They've they've done it again. This team sits right now eight
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  and three on top of the north trip to Philadelphia.
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  Coming up, Philadelphia's kind of been hit and miss as far as
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  you know. One week you watch him, they
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  think that they're absolutely legitimate threat to to repeat
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  next time you watch him, you think, bam, this team's got some
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  problems with the Bears. However, Cappy, when you watch
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  this team beat Pittsburgh last week, your main take away or
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  couple of takeaways with the Pittsburgh win were what?
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  Find a way. You were missing minimum of
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  seven starters. I mean, and if you count 2 guys
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  that got injured in the first quarter in that game that
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  started the game, I mean, you're you had no TJ Edwards, you had
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  no Tremaine Edmonds, you had no Noah Sewell, no Jaylen Johnson,
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  no Kyler Gordon, no Theo Benedet.
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  And then you had other guys that have been out like Terrell Smith
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  hasn't played this year. He would have been a starter in
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  that situation. And then Stevenson and Hippolyte
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  went out pretty quickly into the game and they started the game.
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  So you're down, whatever you want to call it, 789 of your top
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  guys and somehow you found a way.
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  I mean, if you'd have told me that DeMarco Jackson was going
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  to wear the green dot for people wondering what that means, he's
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  calling the defensive signals on his helmet.
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  He's and what Dennis Allen wants.
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  The Michael Jackson was a practice squad guy released by
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  the New. Orleans Saints and he had 15.
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  Tackles, so there's something special going on there and
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  whether they win this week or not there's it doesn't take away
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  from the fact that this thing has completely been flipped in
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  terms of culture and there's no reason they can't go into Philly
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  and win. Doesn't mean they will, but I'm
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  just worried about one game at a time find a way.
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  Caleb throws 3 touchdowns and game on.
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  You know, just real quick, DeMarco Jackson had 9 tackles on
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  the year. I had no idea he had that many
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  in that game. What a game.
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  Don't love those guys you mentioned.
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  There's something. Go ahead, Cap.
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  No, I was going to say, it's just crazy to think, hey, man,
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  you're going to get your opportunity to not only dress
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  for the game, you're going to be among the leading tacklers in
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  the NFL this weekend. And he would have said, OK, no
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  shock. And guess what?
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  Shock. Cap, you mentioned all those
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  injuries. Linebacker crew completely
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  pulled out with the quick turn around with this game Friday
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  against Philly. Did that go hand in hand knowing
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  that if these guys is going to be close, if they go out there,
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  though, the likelihood they're not going to be available for
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  Philadelphia, does that go there?
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  And do you anticipate how many of those guys being able to be
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  back and be out there Friday in Philly?
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  I think you're going to see Jaylen Johnson.
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  I think you're going to see Kyler Gordon.
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  So I'll be surprised if they don't play.
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  I don't know what the deal is with TJ Edwards.
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  If he's going to play. I would hope that he does.
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  But I mean, he's coming off a hand surgery and he gets hurt
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  again and he's been sidelined 3 different times this season.
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  If you remember, he got hurt in training camp with a hamstring
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  and then he came off of that and re injured the hamstring and was
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  out and now he's back again after having hand surgery.
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  So they got to make sure that he is ready to go when they put him
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  out there. He's got to be able to last the
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  rest of the season if you want to have a shot because he is a
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  key, key player. No doubt about a cap and and
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  right now they sit 8 and three. They sit on top of the division.
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  Obviously still have to play Green Bay twice.
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  They've got Detroit at the end of the year at San Francisco.
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  Won't be easy. Cleveland probably.
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  That's the one you feel pretty good about.
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  South Cap. Where is your audience as far as
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  this Bears team? I'm guessing that most of them,
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  although optimistic prior to the season, didn't see that this
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  coming. It's particularly where they sit
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  as they head into the Thanksgiving weekend, which is
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  right on top of the division. What's kind of the mood are,
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  are, are folks buying in or still kind of tepid at this
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  point? Some are buying in and some are
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  extremely tepid or almost negative, which I find
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  ridiculous. I'm not telling you they're
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  going to win the Super Bowl. I never said that I picked them
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  ten and seven because I thought this coach is real.
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  I believe in Caleb Williams and there are some here that for
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  whatever reason, they're afraid to put their heart out there.
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  They're afraid to push their chips in and go, man, my team is
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  really good. If I had told you the Wednesday
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  show that we did so they gave up 52 points in a 5221 loss to the
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  Detroit Lions that they are now going to go 8 and one the next
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  9, you guys would have said OK, this guy's an idiot, why do we
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  have him on our show? They were owed 2 at.
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  That, and that's what they've done.
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  Yeah. That's exactly correct.
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  Caleb Williams, it's up and down.
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  It's inconsistent. The highs are incredibly high.
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  The lows are disappointing, certainly.
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  Does it feel like it's at least smoothing out?
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  There's still those stretches, those throws, little sloppy with
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  the foot work. Why did he make that read those
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  kinds of things. But do you feel like at minimum
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  it is smoothing out and those those peaks and valleys aren't
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  quite as high and low anymore? Oh, 1000%, yeah.
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  I mean, I don't understand some of the national narrative that
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  goes out there and says, yeah, I don't know about this guy.
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  We had one of our beat writers in town doing an interview and
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  he said something to the effect of, yeah, he's the 4th best
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  quarterback out of the 6th that went in the first round.
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  And I'm trying to think to myself 4th best quarterback.
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  Are you kidding me? I'm track to throw for 3900 and
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  some yards If he has, you know one game that goes above
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  average, he could end up over 4000 yards.
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  His teams won eight of nine. He's LED 5 game-winning drives
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  down points in the final two minutes never happened in
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  history. The franchise end up thinking so
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  you're telling me you would take OK Drake makes having a great
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  year, great year. Was rookie of the year last
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  year. Correct.
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  And Daniels has had a horrible year this year.
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  Horrible. He's been injured and he hasn't
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  played well and his team is up the track.
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  So you're telling me Bo Nicks, you're telling me who else
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  panics? He would be the. 4th No way
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  look. That's my point.
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  Yeah, I'm a Bo Nicks guy. I mean, Denver's my team.
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  I love Bo Nicks. I'd rather have Caleb Williams
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  at this point. And I like Bo Nicks.
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  Yes, and yes, Daniels is. I mean, you had a great rookie
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  year. Need to see more this year.
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  I think he's got it. Drake Mays off to a terrific
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  start on a bad football with an easy schedule.
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  No, I I don't think that's fair. I don't think your your guy's
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  fair. I still think that if you asked
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  Ben Johnson who he would take if he was, he wasn't here then when
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  we drafted him. But if you said, hey, Ben,
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  you're in charge of the draft, we're redrafting 2024.
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  I think Ben would say Caleb Williams.
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  I do. Gets a whole lot deeper now and
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  we know what's in front of them starting Friday.
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  Does this team have it in them? I mean, you, you sound like you
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  definitely believe Cappy. You normally believe you're a,
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  you're an optimistic fan out there.
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  But what you've seen, what they've dealt with, the way they
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  got through it. And boy, those locker room
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  speeches, they get me fired up with Ben Johnson in the locker
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  room afterwards. You believe at minimum this is a
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  playoff team and and that it's not unsustainable what they're
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  doing even as a schedule gets more difficult.
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  I'm not telling you that they're going to go in and beat Philly
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  in Philly, then win at Green Bay and then come back and beat
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  Cleveland and we'll blink and go, whoa, they're 11 and three.
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  I just take them as, you know, I've always said that to you
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  guys. I take them one game at a time,
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  period. That's just how I do it.
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  That's probably the coach in me. Hey, guys, we're just worried
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  about this game. I don't worry about the next
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  game. Like my neighbor who I was just
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  talking to when you guys called, he's like, oh God, we lose to
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  Philly. Then we got to go to Green Bay
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  and we could lose that game and Miles Garrett could be a game
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  wrecker and we could lose that. I'm like, Al, dude, slow down.
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  Can we just play these one game at a time?
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  Let's see how we are with injury.
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  Like if I told you at the beginning of the year, you're
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  going to play Baltimore, no Lamar Jackson, you're going to
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  play Cincinnati, no Joe Burrow, you're going to play Pittsburgh,
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  no Aaron Rodgers and on and on and on.
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  You would have never believed it.
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  That's why I just one a week. Let's see where we are.
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  Try to go to 1 and O this week. Let's get to let's get to
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  baseball cap. You know, I had one that
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  somebody asked me to ask you and I will.
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  And I got 1 selfishly because, well, I'll get to that in a
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  second. Kyle Schwarber.
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  Is there a chance that the Cubs at least kick the tires on the
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  on as good ADH as there is in the game?
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  Any chance of a reunion with Schwarber?
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  I think that they absolutely have interest because Tom
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  Ricketts has always said, and I like Tom a lot as a guy, I
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  disagree with him that you should.
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  We're just trying to break even. That's what he has consistently
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  said. Well, my point is, Tom, it is a
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  public trust. I heard Justin Ishbia, who's
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  buying into the White Sox and eventually will be the owner,
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  Justin Ishbia said the other day in an interview.
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  And I thought it was magnificently well said.
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  He said, look, I'm not going to be the owner of the White Sox.
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  I'm going to be the steward of the White Sox, he said.
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  And that means people are putting me their trust in me
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  that I will be a good steward of this franchise.
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  But I thought, wow, that's a pretty cool way to look at it.
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  I believe it is a public trust when you buy a team.
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  It is now the Mccaskey's extra only business.
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  That's how they make a living. A little different.
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  But in baseball, Tom Ricketts is a billionaire because he's
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  really smart. Tom Ricketts will could walk
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  away from the Cubs and literally donate them to charity, and he's
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  not going to need A tag day to go feed his family.
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  So I think to say, yeah, I just want to break even.
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  No, I don't want to hear that. I want to hear All I care about
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  is winning championships. Maybe you can't afford Shohei
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  Otani, but you can absolutely afford to push your chips in,
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  especially a team that went to the playoffs to the second round
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  last year and lost in the deciding game five.
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  I don't understand how you sit in the stands to look around and
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  go, this is amazing here. Yeah, I don't want to buy that
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  guy because I don't want to spend the money.
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  I don't get that. The other one, the one that I
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  have cap, is I don't understand why and they may not be doing
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  this. This might just be all Internet
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  chatter on Twitter, etcetera. Are they really looking to
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  replace Matt Shaw or upgrade Matt Shaw at third base?
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  I'm not sure. There isn't up.
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  He's had one year. There's good third baseman,
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  sure, but are they really trying to replace Matt Shaw at third
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  base after what everybody saw with their own two eyes in his
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  rookie campaign? I I'm not saying that that
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  they're sitting in their meetings going we've got to
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  replace him. I don't believe that.
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  I do believe that they are looking OK.
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  How much would Alex Bregman cost?
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  Are we going to use Matt Shaw in a deal?
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  There's a number of ways that they've got to look at this,
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  what they want to do. Like I'm hearing that the
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  Marlins are after Michael King. The Marlins, Well, when you do a
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  little more digging on it, someone told me, yeah, they are
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  because they can then trade Edward Cabrera or Sandy Alcantra
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  to basically, if it's Alcantra, pay for the Michael King signing
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  and then trade that picture that they're getting rid of to go get
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  what they need in the off field. So they have to mix and match
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  and move money. The Cubs don't.
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  But if you're putting Matt Shaw in a deal to go get Edward
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  Cabrera or whoever that guy is out there, I could understand
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  it. But then you got to sign Alex
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  pregnant and he's got to be big money.
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  Bullpen, you know, we've talked about it already a couple of
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  times, Veterans kind of filling in the gaps, maybe figure out a
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  few things and then you see that Helsley very well could be a
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  possibility for the Cubs. Do you like the idea of going
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  out there? Probably going to have to spend
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  pretty bring big to bring in a closer, certainly with the
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  background of Ryan Helsley. Yeah, I like Ryan Helser.
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  I think he's a good pitcher. I've seen him give it up.
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  I've seen him be really, really good.
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  But if you're going to throw multiple arms into that role,
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  Ryan Helsley, Daniel Palencia, I don't know who else they're
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  planning on bringing in. They Steinfeld Maytown, who's
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  very good, had a 279 this year between the Cardinals and
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  Rangers. Texas Rangers.
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  Yeah. Name You've got to upgrade your
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  bullpen. You have to, because if you're
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  seriously thinking about trying to win the World Series, you
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  have got to be better than you were.
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  You just do. What's it going to take for a
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  team to knock off the Dodgers Speaking of winning the World
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  Series cap? I mean, I know they can't, at
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  least I don't think they can win all of them.
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  They're they're doing what they take to ensure that they're
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  going to be in the hunt. But but is, is, is this a team
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  that, you know, get used to it because they're going to be here
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  year after year after year? Look, they're going to spend
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  until the rules of the game change.
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  I don't know if you guys read the Athletic article on Hal
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  Steinbrenner today, but I highly recommend everybody read it.
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  Yeah, because he did an interview, a teleconference,
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  like a Zoom call with a bunch of media.
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  And the question that was asked to Hal Steinbrenner was, is it
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  fair to say you guys made a profit in 2025?
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  And he his quote is, you can look it up for yourself.
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  He said, no, it's not fair or accurate to say we made a
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  profit. And then somebody I respect at
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  MLB who's a friend of mine, he text me, he's listening to me
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  talk about this. And I blasted Hal Steinbrenner
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  and he said, you're wrong on this one.
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  I saw the books. The Yankees lost money in 2025.
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  Well, if the New York Yankees are losing money, then I don't
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  think they know what they're doing operating their business
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  A&B. If that is true, the franchise
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  value in 2021, because I looked it up with $5.5 billion, the
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  franchise value now is $8.2 billion.
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  So let's also factor in that the amount of your asset as
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  appreciated incredibly well. So I don't want to hear that the
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  Yankees feel like, yeah, we he even said that they would
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  support a salary cap. Yes.
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  Good stuff, Capper. Appreciate it, buddy.
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  We'll see about that salary cap at 2027.
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  It's going to be an interesting year to say the very least.
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  What are you doing for Thanksgiving?
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  What are you doing for Thanksgiving?
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  The first year we're not hosting, my son and
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  daughter-in-law, my grandkids are hosting.
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  We're going to their house and my son's like a pro level chef
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  that I mean, he could do that for a living if he wanted.
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  So we're having dinner with them.
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  You working Friday? Yes, I'll be on 6:00 to 9:30.
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  We're going to go a little longer because we're leading
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  into bears prey. Good stuff, gap.
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  We'll talk to you in your normal spot next Wednesday.
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  Thanks for being flexible. Happy Thanksgiving, buddy.
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  Thankful for you guys and thankful for all the people that
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  I hear from that listen to me with you guys.
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  I love being part of your show. That's great, Kappa, right back.
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  Thank you. Take care.
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  We'll take a time out, catch up with our buddy Sip coming up on
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  the other side. What do you think before we go
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  to break, since we're talking Bears with Kathy, what's what's
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  the ceiling as far as regular season, knowing what they got
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  left? I know Capco likes to go game by
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  game, game one game at a time. Not us when when you look at it,
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  Philadelphia and Green Bay on the road, then Cleveland and
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  Green Bay at home at San Fran versus Detroit.
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  If they get if they went 2, are they in?
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  I think they're in with 10, don't you?
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  I think so, yeah. I think 10 and seven gets them
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  in. Is the upside anything higher
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  though than three and three? I don't think so.
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  With that trend, you split with Green Bay, you get Cleveland.
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  And then one more. And then one more.
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  That means either sweeping the Packers.
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  Or winning in Philadelphia. Beating Detroit at the end of
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  the season, golf outdoors, Not exactly a strength for him.
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  And he went in San Francisco. Yes, I yeah, I think he can.
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  But suddenly if you lose these next two weeks, lose to Philly
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  and get beat up, I think this is going to be a dangerous.
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  What's going to be dangerous for the fans?
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  Because they'll think that it's, you know, it's come off the
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  rails. I knew it.
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  This was a fake team fool's gold.
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  I bought into it. I shouldn't have.
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  I know better. Because you lose these next two,
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  you know which they're going to be undertogs, obviously Philly
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  and at Green Bay. And then you got Cleveland
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  coming to town, Miles Garrett off the edge and a weird, ugly
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  game. And it's cold and it's snowy and
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  it's what you think December football is.
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  And all of a sudden it's 1310 in the middle of the fourth
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  quarter. It could be.
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  That sounds like the score. That's very reasonable.
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  And a bounce goes as there and suddenly that when that losing
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  streak goes to three. Then you host Green Bay and.
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  Then it's Green Bay and then in almost a must win situation at
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  home against the Packers. So he's not in the barn yet?
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  And that's a Saturday game. That is, yes.
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  That's the first day of the college football, the Friday
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  night. But the first full day of
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  College Football Playoffs is Saturday the 20th.
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  So Saturday the 20th, there's two games that day.
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  What's the other one? Do you?
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  Know Eagles at Commanders. So one of them would be 331 of
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  them would be 7:30. I'm guessing I.
• 19:49
  Think that's the way they've done it in the past.
• 19:51
  So one of them, I mean, if they go by time zones, the Eagles
• 19:54
  would play at 4:30 or 8:30. I think you're going to get the
• 19:58
  Green Bay game at, I think Green Bay.
• 20:00
  Chicago is Saturday night. And that's certainly at the more
• 20:03
  important. Game at Soldier Field, yeah.
• 20:05
  Commanders have lost, what, six in a row?
• 20:08
  At least, Early told us earlier. They're beating your Broncos.
• 20:10
  No, they're not. It's.
• 20:11
  Not going to happen. It's not going to happen.
• 20:12
  I think Sir Tan is back. I think, yeah, absolutely.
• 20:16
  Best cover corner of the league? Yeah, that goes a long ways.
• 20:18
  Doesn't it? Defensive player of the year
• 20:19
  last year, Yeah. I'd say that's an upgrade.
• 20:21
  We'll take a time out. We'll head over to Lincoln,
• 20:23
  catch up with Sip next, huskerillustrated.com.
• 20:27
  We'll get his thoughts on the game.
• 20:29
  Well, not the game, but it's pretty big game from where we
• 20:32
  sit. It's the heroes game.
• 20:33
  Miller and Condon talking sports with you.
• 20:35
  And we're glad you're with us on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 20:40
  It's time for SIP. Steven M Simple talks with
• 20:45
  myself and Ken on Nebraska football.
• 20:48
  I mean, I have a radio show, we have callers.
• 20:50
  I pay attention to my Twitter notifications and all that.
• 20:54
  There's definitely some frustration.
• 20:55
  We talk Cornhuskers, and you never know what else is going to
• 20:59
  come up with 30 years on the Nebraska beat.
• 21:05
  Here's Steven M Simple. As long as they're paying me to
• 21:07
  talk, I'm just going to keep doing it.
• 21:10
  By 1:30, right on the button. Miller in Condon, glad you're
• 21:13
  with us on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 21:15
  Wherever you are listening. We're grateful that you are
• 21:18
  coming up at the top of the hour off the bench.
• 21:21
  We'll get to Lucas and Sean in here from 2:00 until 5:00.
• 21:25
  Let's head to Lincoln. The Hawks will head to Lincoln,
• 21:27
  take on Nebraska. It's 11:00 in the morning.
• 21:30
  CBS has the TV. If you're not in front of ATV,
• 21:33
  you can flip it over to News Radio 1040.
• 21:35
  WHO the home of the Hawks. Let's get Stephen M in here.
• 21:39
  Sip. Good to talk to you.
• 21:40
  Yeah. Happy Thanksgiving to you and
• 21:42
  yours. How are you?
• 21:42
  Stephen M Oh. Good.
• 21:46
  How are you guys? Doing doing pretty well doing
• 21:48
  OK. So I want to go back before we
• 21:49
  look forward to this game. The Penn State game obviously
• 21:52
  didn't go their way. I know that the players and the
• 21:55
  coaches really didn't want to talk much about it with a short
• 21:58
  week etcetera want to very quickly move on.
• 22:00
  I got the sense though, sip, correct me if I'm wrong, that
• 22:04
  rule thought then wasn't too pleased that his team was maybe
• 22:08
  out physical, then got pushed around and maybe sent that
• 22:11
  message to his team that that they were pushed around and
• 22:15
  should be embarrassed. I mean I'm not sure.
• 22:17
  Is that over the top? Was that kind of the take away
• 22:20
  from from post game Penn State? Well.
• 22:23
  Not you don't kidding. Not really.
• 22:26
  I mean, it was you got, I think you got the first part of it
• 22:29
  right. They just wanted to move on.
• 22:32
  Yeah, I mean, it kind of here's what I guess the way the way I
• 22:37
  put it is this. I mean, he didn't have to tell
• 22:41
  his guys that that's what happened.
• 22:44
  They know they were getting it was No, it wasn't.
• 22:47
  I don't think he had to say much about it to his guys.
• 22:52
  It was it was a bludgeoning and and kind of weird.
• 22:58
  It's a kind of a weird dynamic. Everybody just kind of was like,
• 23:00
  OK, that happened. We got to move on that.
• 23:03
  That's what was most striking to me.
• 23:05
  There was a great headline in the Omaha World Herald usually
• 23:08
  have it was something along the lines of teams usually have a 24
• 23:14
  hour rule rule had a 24 minute rule.
• 23:18
  Like they just, he just came to the post game and said
• 23:21
  basically, look, that happened, but we got to turn our full
• 23:24
  attention to Iowa. So it was kind of odd.
• 23:28
  It was very odd. Flush that one, move on and get
• 23:31
  ready for this one that has not gone Nebraska's way very often.
• 23:35
  Iowa hasn't lost in Lincoln since 2011.
• 23:38
  Won nine of the last 10. Iowa comes in OK Bad performance
• 23:43
  for 3/4 last week against Michigan State.
• 23:46
  Find a way to get the win against a winless team in the
• 23:48
  conference. Kind of feels like one of those
• 23:50
  games where, I don't know, fan bases sometimes.
• 23:53
  Have a lot of bravado this week. Don't see a lot of it on either
• 23:56
  side. Both teams, both fan bases.
• 23:58
  Maybe a little bit upset with their squads going into the
• 24:00
  match up, Yeah. Definitely.
• 24:03
  Over here, yeah. 37 to 10. I mean, I, it's the odd, it's an
• 24:10
  odd sort of the conversations over here become odd.
• 24:18
  I mean, I at this point in my life, I basically need a
• 24:21
  psychiatrist to deal with it. I, I mean, you'll hear people
• 24:26
  say things like simple, what did you expect against Penn State?
• 24:30
  Of course, you know, Nebraska lost big.
• 24:34
  I'm like Penn State was four and six.
• 24:38
  I mean, that this is what it's become.
• 24:42
  You can't beat Penn State simple.
• 24:43
  Penn State has incredible talent.
• 24:45
  I hear a lot of that. I hear a lot of that.
• 24:47
  Penn State simple has incredible talent.
• 24:51
  Really. Then then why did they lose the
• 24:53
  UCLA with incredible talent? And Northwestern, Yeah, I mean,
• 24:57
  they pushed Indiana. But in college football, there's
• 25:03
  there's peaks and valleys. Teams rise up.
• 25:07
  I, no, I, it's, it gets, it gets odd over here, now over here,
• 25:11
  there's not bravado. There's this constant, there's
• 25:13
  mostly consternation. I don't know that I hear, I've
• 25:16
  heard no bravado this week. It's mostly, it's mostly
• 25:22
  consternation mixed with, you know, the, the very, you know,
• 25:28
  the program loyalists doing their best to say everything's
• 25:32
  OK. And maybe it is.
• 25:35
  Here's the bottom line, guys. It's a it's a monster game from
• 25:39
  that rule monster. It would be his biggest win
• 25:43
  here. I mean, I'll put that in
• 25:45
  perspective, but then I know it sounds kind of weird to you, but
• 25:47
  that's kind of where we're at over here.
• 25:50
  It's it would be his biggest win.
• 25:54
  And if he's going to keep selling the notion of progress,
• 25:59
  this is the sort of win he needs because he hasn't had it.
• 26:02
  His best win this year, it was Cincinnati, which by the way, is
• 26:06
  I think lost three straight. And if it's not Cincinnati, it
• 26:10
  was Northwestern. So you see what?
• 26:12
  You see what the deal is here? Yeah, who just became both
• 26:15
  eligible? Yeah, he needs this bad.
• 26:18
  He needs this bad. Interesting sip, but we, we
• 26:21
  thought we kept hoping that, you know, one of these years when
• 26:24
  these two teams are going to play, it's, you know, for some a
• 26:27
  big 10 birther at the time, you know, to, to win their, their
• 26:31
  division, if you will, whether it be leaders or legends.
• 26:35
  But now it seems like the thing we're playing for this year is
• 26:40
  the winners going to go to Florida and the losers going to
• 26:42
  go to Las Vegas. That's how we see it over here.
• 26:46
  Is that how you guys have been looking at this or does it even
• 26:49
  cross your radar? Oh God, yes, it crosses our
• 26:52
  radar. Yeah, it's that's a big part of
• 26:55
  this. I mean, that would be.
• 26:57
  See, I always write, I always talk about, you know, I think
• 27:00
  you got everybody does this. It covers A-Team.
• 27:04
  You're looking for discernible progress, right?
• 27:08
  Tangible progress in a program. You just, you know, there's so
• 27:13
  much discussion, you know, you can get the wool pulled over
• 27:16
  your eyes and all that. But I'll tell you what, it would
• 27:20
  be discernible progress for Nebraska to play in the
• 27:23
  Pinstripe Bowl one year and then play in Tampa the next that you
• 27:29
  could point to that and say, OK, yeah, that's progress.
• 27:32
  That's progress. I mean, it's, you know, some of
• 27:35
  that is it's a perception thing, but it's still it's pretty
• 27:39
  tangible. So the hell no, It's gigantic.
• 27:42
  I mean, and hey, guys, over here now, I mean, the media, at least
• 27:47
  in fans, they would regard this as a monster win for Nebraska.
• 27:52
  They would. That's kind of where we're at
• 27:54
  over here. I think the program, I think.
• 27:56
  Hey, now listen, the players and coaches are of that mind too.
• 28:01
  I, I mean, I, you can kind of hear what they say publicly, but
• 28:04
  privately it is the case over here.
• 28:09
  They want this bad. I mean, they want, they need it
• 28:12
  bad. So I'll be interested to do what
• 28:14
  it looks like on Friday. Yeah, that's good stuff.
• 28:17
  So does Nebraska, do they plan on shaking hands or are they
• 28:20
  going to be fake tough guys like they were last year?
• 28:22
  So. Trent.
• 28:25
  Yeah. What?
• 28:27
  What? Just he just went straight to a
• 28:30
  base question. I don't know.
• 28:35
  I I don't know. I, I think there'll be
• 28:37
  sportsmanship as much as you can expect.
• 28:39
  It's listen, it's a rivalry. I don't.
• 28:42
  People can debate that all they want.
• 28:44
  Yeah. It's a rivalry, no?
• 28:47
  I'm with you. I think it's great.
• 28:49
  No doubt about that. The the heroes game sip the
• 28:53
  recipient from Nebraska went into a hero.
• 28:58
  Their their portion of the heroes trophy went into a
• 29:00
  burning house fire or something and saves.
• 29:03
  Do I have that right? It wasn't that a long time ago.
• 29:07
  I don't know. I think somebody from Columbus I
• 29:10
  know is the, is Nebraska, well, regardless of the circumstances,
• 29:15
  they're going to award somebody from the state of Nebraska,
• 29:17
  state of Iowa for recognition for some heroic endeavour this
• 29:21
  past year. So whether you know what,
• 29:23
  regardless of what it was, I I love the fact that that's behind
• 29:27
  what this game means. Sure.
• 29:30
  Yeah. And I don't.
• 29:30
  Know what I don't know? I thought that was the original
• 29:35
  story that someone went into a maybe that just happened.
• 29:38
  I don't hate, obviously don't know, but yeah, I like it.
• 29:41
  I just know this that trophy, I've seen it hoisted by players
• 29:45
  and I saw it hoisted Nebraska by Nebraska players in Iowa City a
• 29:49
  couple of years ago. And it was a monster deal to
• 29:51
  Nebraska. So for those guys to go in there
• 29:55
  to Kinnick and and raise that thing over their heads and
• 30:01
  prayed around with it, it's big. I've seen I would do it over
• 30:05
  here in Lincoln. And it was I saw the looks on
• 30:08
  the faces of those kids. This is a big deal to them.
• 30:11
  So I love it. I love it.
• 30:13
  This is big. I don't know what how many Iowa
• 30:16
  fans will make their way over here.
• 30:18
  I that let's go Hawks Chan is one of the I mean, I kind of
• 30:22
  always be careful how I phrased it over here.
• 30:24
  I don't want to sound like I'm a fan of Iowa, but I do appreciate
• 30:29
  the bloodthirsty nature of that chant.
• 30:32
  Like it's blood curdling. I I it freaks me out sometimes.
• 30:37
  What what kind of effort did Latif have last week?
• 30:40
  Obviously a lot of folks excited after the UCLA game, but the
• 30:45
  water got a lot deeper. Obviously what you call it
• 30:47
  Croatia, Happy Valley last week. What what would you say about
• 30:52
  Latif's game last week and does he take a step forward off of
• 30:56
  that? And obviously he would need to,
• 30:58
  but what did you, what do you think of the freshman
• 31:00
  quarterback last Week 1? Time you'd go into a foreign
• 31:03
  land and it's cold and and you know you don't it's
• 31:07
  unrecognizable to you. It's hard and it it couldn't
• 31:15
  have been easy for now. The weather was good.
• 31:17
  I mean, that's the thing. It was, it was no wind and you
• 31:21
  didn't necessarily need a jacket, which was odd.
• 31:25
  But yeah, that's a tough place to play.
• 31:28
  I mean, I can't stand going there.
• 31:31
  I don't understand why anybody would live there.
• 31:34
  But I do respect that that just the magnitude, the sheer
• 31:39
  magnitude of plane there. And it surely wasn't easy for a
• 31:44
  freshman, a true freshman. But he was not wide eyed.
• 31:48
  He played fine. You know, I think he's 21 of 37
• 31:52
  for 180 yards. They only asked him to run it on
• 31:56
  designed runs twice and he scrambled five times, got some
• 32:01
  yards. He's still like him.
• 32:03
  He's good. He's a good little 61210.
• 32:08
  I think he's, I don't know, Can he do this?
• 32:14
  Can he, can he orchestrate this type of win, You say, young kid?
• 32:19
  I don't know. But what?
• 32:21
  What he? Will do is take off and run like
• 32:24
  a running back. So you have you guys haven't
• 32:27
  seen that from Ryola, but you'll see that on Friday.
• 32:31
  Good stuff, Stephen M enjoy Thanksgiving.
• 32:33
  Appreciate you doing this. Good news, you get to stay home
• 32:36
  and eat the bird that don't have to travel over to Iowa City this
• 32:38
  year. That'll be next home game in
• 32:40
  Lincoln this weekend for the Huskers.
• 32:42
  Happy Thanksgiving, pal. Appreciate what you've done for
• 32:44
  us. Oh yeah.
• 32:45
  Thank you guys. Happy Thanksgiving to you.
• 32:48
  Good to talk to you. Stephen M Simple Husker
• 32:50
  Illustrated part of On Three media.com On Three media.com
• 32:55
  number still 5 1/2. 6/6 and 1/2. Isn't really, you know, what
• 32:59
  struck me that conversation? Just what this game means to
• 33:01
  them. It's big, it is big.
• 33:03
  It's an important. One, it is an important one,
• 33:05
  said a lot of nice things and the coaches staff obviously has
• 33:08
  the players attention and what a win over I would mean, Matt
• 33:12
  Rules. Biggest win of his tenure, I
• 33:16
  mean. Shows he doesn't have a whole
• 33:17
  lot of depth trouble. Yeah, that just shows you I'm
• 33:20
  there's how serious they're taking this game. 6 1/2 and you
• 33:23
  say? This a field goal every year and
• 33:24
  you're not wrong. No, every single year and.
• 33:26
  So is this free? I will make some points, I will
• 33:29
  make some field goal and they win by three-year after year
• 33:32
  after year. 1310, the last two seasons, both on walk off field
• 33:36
  goals, like 4 times walk off field goals by Iowa in this
• 33:40
  game. You're getting sick. 6 1/2 yeah,
• 33:43
  I'll grab those points. The Cyclones are up a dozen in
• 33:48
  their game against Creighton. 3 minutes left in the first half.
• 33:52
  I saw Pleeta swat one away from Freeman at the basket.
• 33:56
  Oh, and Freeman, what's? Wrong with this cat Trent.
• 33:59
  Does he like basketball? I think that's enough question.
• 34:03
  It doesn't seem like fair, right?
• 34:04
  There's a lot of passion in his game.
• 34:07
  Compound what we saw last year, obviously.
• 34:11
  Bad finger? Yeah, out of the year.
• 34:13
  I know who does like basketball. Joshua Jefferson loves the game.
• 34:17
  My God, is he unbelievable? He had a transition three couple
• 34:21
  minutes ago. Yeah, just stepped right into
• 34:22
  it. He's so talented.
• 34:24
  He is so versatile. Yeah, Toure's off to a good
• 34:26
  start. Heisey in the starting lineup.
• 34:29
  Buchanan so far, no fouls. What?
• 34:32
  Yes, he's yet to pick up a foul. Boy, he's got to put important
• 34:36
  role on this team. All right, We'll take time out.
• 34:39
  Transplays of the day. So I was mistaken last week.
• 34:42
  I thought my action was done. Oh, we got two more tonight.
• 34:45
  Oh, it's not done. We've got so one this afternoon.
• 34:48
  This afternoon, 330, yes. I'll be watching basketball.
• 34:52
  Yeah, me too. You're.
• 34:53
  Not going to watch US football. I already saw one U.
• 34:55
  Mass is bad. Like, really bad.
• 34:57
  That's an understatement. Not just O 111, but some of
• 35:00
  their numbers are as hideous as you can imagine.
• 35:03
  You got to lay 2 touchdowns maybe north of that.
• 35:05
  They are 136 out of 136 in total offense at 243 yards per game.
• 35:11
  Defence better. 130th in the. Country.
• 35:14
  Let's look it up. Given a 438.
• 35:17
  Defence is their calling card over there.
• 35:20
  And Eddie George and company making their way to Mass.
• 35:23
  Good stuff, Trench plays of the day, our next Miller and Condon.
• 35:25
  Glad you're with us on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 35:28
  Hi Milary Condon, welcome back Final segment as Manchilovich
• 35:33
  buries A3 halftime in Las Vegas Clones 40 Blue Jays 2614 point
• 35:41
  lead for Iowa State Keep pouring it on.
• 35:45
  Make it interesting, right? It's.
• 35:48
  Going to come down to point total point total.
• 35:50
  Win this thing by 20. Win this thing by 20?
• 35:52
  Wouldn't that be so? Owen Freeman, by the way, has
• 35:54
  four. Josh Dix has a pair.
• 35:58
  He had six assists yesterday. He's got 2 today.
• 36:02
  Who else? 2 Rays.
• 36:03
  I think 2 Rays. The leading scorer he is, he's
• 36:05
  got 10. Only player so far in double
• 36:07
  digits. He's had 10 in 15 minutes of
• 36:10
  playing time. All right.
• 36:12
  Our final segment is Trent's Plays of the Day Circus sports
• 36:16
  sponsor that now Iowa plays tonight.
• 36:18
  They do. 830 Keikert is there if they win tonight or if they lose
• 36:24
  tonight, what are the circumstances as far as game
• 36:26
  times tomorrow, do you know? I think about 8, 30 again
• 36:29
  tomorrow night if memory serves, if they win.
• 36:31
  If they lose, they got the late game 11:00. 11:00 PM.
• 36:35
  And who's got the TV of this? CBS Sports Network OK 220
• 36:38
  Panthers will be playing there also against Loyola coming up
• 36:41
  here at 3:00. OK.
• 36:43
  Undefeated start for those you and I Panthers.
• 36:45
  You know there really are one of the stories so far, right?
• 36:47
  Good for Jacobson. What about the game tonight?
• 36:51
  Any feel for? It I got old miss plus 4 1/2
• 36:54
  really athletic team. They block a ton of shots they
• 36:56
  average over. I think it's like 8.2 blocks per
• 36:58
  game. A little bit concerned inside
• 37:00
  about that and a physical team, I think the first time they're
• 37:03
  going to see this kind of physicality.
• 37:05
  I like Iowa in a tight one, but getting 4 1/2, grab the number
• 37:09
  there, that's one of my plays of the day.
• 37:11
  Got a few more. So we're off to a decent start
• 37:13
  at Iowa State -6 1/2. See if we can Polish that one
• 37:16
  off you. Had a winning day yesterday.
• 37:17
  You had a winning day yesterday. Could have been even better if
• 37:20
  Iowa State doesn't give up a lay up at the horn.
• 37:22
  So I was laying 2 1/2 of that one.
• 37:23
  Those brutal. Boats.
• 37:25
  There's been a lot of them lately.
• 37:26
  Have Notre Dame this afternoon. They're up 9 lane, 5 1/2.
• 37:29
  Hopefully we can get that one home.
• 37:30
  But still to come tonight, Ole Miss plus 4 1/2, St.
• 37:34
  John's. They got North Carolina Saint
• 37:35
  Bonaventure. Excuse me, against Saint
• 37:37
  Bonaventure, North Carolina. Intriguing.
• 37:40
  So, you know the old ESPN guy, he leaves to be like their
• 37:43
  basketball CFO guy used to break the stories all the time.
• 37:46
  Woach. Yeah, woach.
• 37:48
  They got a good team, he's done a good job and he knows people
• 37:51
  in the basketball big #12 1/2 going to grab the Bonnies there.
• 37:55
  Rouge bombs going. To do the same.
• 37:57
  Michigan last night. OK performance.
• 38:00
  I like this Auburn squad. I know it was a slow start with
• 38:03
  Pearl's little kid running things.
• 38:05
  I've gotten 5 1/2 though. I'm going to grab the Tigers
• 38:08
  there. And one more on BTN tonight.
• 38:10
  You're Huskers taking on Winthrop.
• 38:13
  Grab a Winthrop plus 16 1/2 tonight.
• 38:15
  A lot of points, a lot of. Points.
• 38:17
  That's for sure. How many Big 10 teams are in
• 38:19
  Vegas? 3 Rutgers, Maryland, Michigan?
• 38:21
  Am I missing 1? That sounds right off the top of
• 38:24
  my head. Think they're going to come up
• 38:27
  with the same kind of deal I. Hope so, don't you?
• 38:29
  Kinda. Not really, you like this thing
• 38:32
  more than I do though. I just want to see other
• 38:34
  tournaments more. Yeah, we want to see Hawaii hold
• 38:38
  it's place in the pecking order. Yes.
• 38:40
  I want Maui to still be a thing. I still want the battle for
• 38:42
  Atlantis. I still want the one in.
• 38:45
  Is the battle for Atlantis back in Atlantis?
• 38:47
  Yeah, I. Think it has been the last
• 38:49
  couple of years, OK. Because where's where'd Layman
• 38:51
  go? He used to go to?
• 38:53
  Was that the? Tournament he did.
• 38:54
  No, he did a different one down in Saint Thomas.
• 38:57
  Was it maybe? Virgin Islands, that's where it
• 38:59
  was. That thing's still in the Virgin
• 39:01
  Islands. Is it going back there?
• 39:03
  Is he there, do you know? Not sure.
• 39:05
  No, nor am I haven't seen much of Kevin Layman as of late.
• 39:08
  All right, you won't hear from much of anybody after tomorrow
• 39:12
  because. Oregon's also in this.
• 39:14
  Are they in the players? ERA, we're going to take a
• 39:16
  couple days off Thursday and Friday, but we're here tomorrow.
• 39:20
  Coming up next off the bench, Lucas and Sean take you until
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  5:00 tomorrow morning. First quarter gets underway at 6
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