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- 0:00Speaker 1: I think if they fall out of the race, you
- 0:01Speaker 1: could see them trade some more of these veterans because
- 0:03Speaker 1: they really like the young core, some of these guys
- 0:06Speaker 1: that they've got to look at this part of the
- 0:07Speaker 1: year and some of the prospects that are on the way.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Mark Topkin from the Tampa Bay Times is here to
- 0:16Speaker 2: talk about the Rays. Topper, good to see you. What
- 0:18Speaker 2: are you seeing man? The race are getting themselves back
- 0:21Speaker 2: in the mix.
- 0:23Speaker 1: They're not only winning, they're winning at home, which was
- 0:25Speaker 1: even the bigger issue earlier this season as they tried
- 0:28Speaker 1: to figure out what kind of jinks the Yankees put
- 0:30Speaker 1: on them. It's time, Brenner Field. But yeah, I'm a
- 0:32Speaker 1: little bit of a roll right now. Back over five
- 0:34Speaker 1: hundred for the first time since like the first week
- 0:36Speaker 1: of the season. A lot of things are clicking for
- 0:39Speaker 1: them right now.
- 0:42Speaker 3: Topper, first of all, clean it up with your background.
- 0:45Speaker 3: Clean it up you actually have rays. I mean, we
- 0:49Speaker 3: know you've covered the race in certain sception, but you
- 0:51Speaker 3: don't have to have the rays behind you, Like, don't
- 0:54Speaker 3: take your work.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Home with you. The over under, in my head was
- 0:58Speaker 1: like ninety seconds into the show before you said something
- 1:00Speaker 1: about that. So I think I got the under there.
- 1:02Speaker 1: We should have got the MGM bet on that line.
- 1:05Speaker 1: But yeah, this is a.
- 1:08Speaker 3: Day.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Yeah, missus Topkin picked these up when we were in
- 1:11Speaker 1: Seattle one year. Pretty cool, actually they are.
- 1:14Speaker 3: And I got to meet I met your wife, didn't
- 1:16Speaker 3: I this year in Clearwater?
- 1:18Speaker 1: I got.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Yeah, she's way too good for you. So we as
- 1:21Speaker 3: long as we established that, we're good as we all
- 1:24Speaker 3: can say. Though, But let me ask you this the race,
- 1:27Speaker 3: Scott goes there in second place, they're one game over
- 1:29Speaker 3: five hundred. Okay, it's not like they're close to the
- 1:32Speaker 3: Yankees and they're chasing. The rest of the division is
- 1:34Speaker 3: also garbage right now? How good can this team be?
- 1:37Speaker 3: I know, yes, they're playing well right now, but is
- 1:40Speaker 3: this really a playoff team with the way the roster
- 1:42Speaker 3: is constructed.
- 1:44Speaker 1: I think the fair answer AJ is to let's let's
- 1:47Speaker 1: see where they are in a month when they get
- 1:48Speaker 1: some of these guys back. I mean, Hassan Kim just
- 1:51Speaker 1: started his rehab assignment yesterday. Uh, they've been pretty impressed
- 1:55Speaker 1: with how that bat has looked in the drill to
- 1:57Speaker 1: this point, so he's going to get a spot in
- 1:59Speaker 1: that line up when he gets back. They've been kind
- 2:02Speaker 1: of piecing it together a little bit. Johnny de Luca
- 2:04Speaker 1: was a guy they were counting on a lot. He's
- 2:06Speaker 1: been out since the first week of the season. He
- 2:07Speaker 1: should be back in the next week or two. Kevin
- 2:10Speaker 1: Kelly in the bullpen, so there's a couple of pieces
- 2:12Speaker 1: they've been missing. Getting Josh lowback, though, was big, and
- 2:15Speaker 1: it's no coincidence that this six game winning streak kind
- 2:18Speaker 1: of spawned shortly after he returned. Lent in that lineup
- 2:21Speaker 1: a little bit. So are they a playoff team? I
- 2:25Speaker 1: think that's going to be as much about how much
- 2:28Speaker 1: other mediocrity there is in the American League right now,
- 2:30Speaker 1: and it seems like there's quite a bit. But I
- 2:32Speaker 1: do think a better read on this team will be
- 2:35Speaker 1: in about, like I said, two, three weeks or a month,
- 2:37Speaker 1: when they kind of get back the team they expected
- 2:40Speaker 1: to have at this time of year. They knew how
- 2:42Speaker 1: Sun Kim wasn't going to be back to late May
- 2:44Speaker 1: early June, the other guys, obviously the injuries that took
- 2:47Speaker 1: some people out to Luca and Josh Lovey and two
- 2:50Speaker 1: of the big ones. So let's see what it looks
- 2:52Speaker 1: like in a few weeks and then I can give
- 2:53Speaker 1: you probably a more fair answer.
- 2:58Speaker 4: Now you said you mentioned the six game win streak.
- 3:00Speaker 4: They have not I'm just reading this now. Actually they
- 3:02Speaker 4: have not trailed for the last forty four innings, not once.
- 3:06Speaker 4: Would you credit that to low and all? This lineup?
- 3:08Speaker 4: Kind of are they jumping out early or is this
- 3:11Speaker 4: the pitching staffs product that is really holding teams in
- 3:14Speaker 4: check to start of the games, that gives their offense
- 3:16Speaker 4: a little chance to kind of get situated and get
- 3:17Speaker 4: their feet under them.
- 3:19Speaker 1: A little bit of both. Tip I mean the starting
- 3:21Speaker 1: pitching for this six game stretch as a one point
- 3:24Speaker 1: five to ozer by the starters, and they're all working
- 3:27Speaker 1: five or six innings, so obviously that's been part of it.
- 3:29Speaker 1: They've scored first, I think in the last four games
- 3:32Speaker 1: and five of the six, so it's a little bit
- 3:35Speaker 1: of both. They and they had not been doing that.
- 3:37Speaker 1: That was something that they were very much on the
- 3:39Speaker 1: opposite side of for the first month, month and a
- 3:41Speaker 1: half of the season. They were not scoring first, and
- 3:44Speaker 1: like most teams, their records much better. I think they're
- 3:46Speaker 1: sixteen and six when they score first, So it's an
- 3:49Speaker 1: obvious thing, but it's definitely helped them as part of this.
- 3:52Speaker 1: So a little bit of both and just tacking on
- 3:55Speaker 1: runs would probably be the third thing. We've seen a
- 3:57Speaker 1: lot of games this year where they'll get a couple
- 4:00Speaker 1: earlier and then the bats go quiet or they're quiet
- 4:02Speaker 1: all night, and then they score a couple in the
- 4:04Speaker 1: seventh or eighth when it's a little too late. So
- 4:07Speaker 1: scoring in different innings, in multiple innings, and having that
- 4:11Speaker 1: starting pitching get it to the bullpen, which has been
- 4:13Speaker 1: pretty good. Even though Usaida hasn't been sharp, the rest
- 4:16Speaker 1: of them have been pretty sharp.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Topper, how's the ballpark playing? You mentioned it that the
- 4:22Speaker 3: Yankees have put a jinx on it. Now listen, the
- 4:24Speaker 3: Razors super top heavy, home heavy the first half of
- 4:28Speaker 3: their season at home. How's this going to play out
- 4:31Speaker 3: for them? And then what's the ballpark been like? We
- 4:34Speaker 3: just said Cody Clemens who played there yesterday and said
- 4:36Speaker 3: it's great. You know, they fixed it up. They made
- 4:38Speaker 3: it into as close of a big League park. But
- 4:40Speaker 3: from the race standpoint, they're in the Yankees home side,
- 4:42Speaker 3: they probably have everything they want, right.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the actual accommodations, the under the you know,
- 4:49Speaker 1: under the stands kind of stuff for tremendous. The dining room,
- 4:52Speaker 1: the training room, the weight room looks like a health club.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Not that I spent a lot of time in health
- 4:57Speaker 1: plugs a j. I'll just say it before you do,
- 5:01Speaker 1: but all that stuff is tremendous. The out tools. You know,
- 5:04Speaker 1: the field itself, it's very narrow, foul territory. There's no
- 5:07Speaker 1: structure obviously around the outfield. So that's why the wind
- 5:10Speaker 1: has been such an issue. You know, there's just not
- 5:12Speaker 1: that normal you know, two or three or four decks
- 5:15Speaker 1: of stands. The lights seem to be a little dim.
- 5:17Speaker 1: A few players have commented on that, both home and
- 5:20Speaker 1: you know, both rays and other team players. So I
- 5:22Speaker 1: think they've done the best they could. What's been curious
- 5:25Speaker 1: is that kind of the reputation was it was going
- 5:28Speaker 1: to be mini Yankee Stadium launching pad a ton of runs.
- 5:31Speaker 1: The first month or so, the wins were really causing problems.
- 5:34Speaker 1: They were very variable, changing going different ways. Balls were
- 5:37Speaker 1: getting crushed to left that were getting knocked down, balls
- 5:40Speaker 1: were getting crushed to right that were getting knocked down.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Then flies that you didn't think we're going out, we're
- 5:43Speaker 1: going into the seat. So it seems to have gotten
- 5:46Speaker 1: with the heat, which probably makes sense the balls carrying
- 5:50Speaker 1: a little better to right. That's where the winds tend
- 5:52Speaker 1: to blow from left to right. We've seen a couple
- 5:55Speaker 1: of those. There was a game, one of the homers,
- 5:57Speaker 1: I think against the Astros the other night, the right
- 5:59Speaker 1: field just started to camp under it about six or
- 6:02Speaker 1: eight feet in front of the track, and then just
- 6:04Speaker 1: like it hit the jet stream, kind of like sometimes
- 6:07Speaker 1: they do at Yankee Stadium, with the same dimension. So
- 6:09Speaker 1: it maybe is playing a little truer to what the
- 6:12Speaker 1: reputation was, which was balls are going to fly in
- 6:15Speaker 1: the hot weather.
- 6:18Speaker 3: What about the home run that was hit the other
- 6:19Speaker 3: day top or that went three hundred and twelve feet
- 6:22Speaker 3: but the fence said three hundred and fourteen feet on stadcast,
- 6:24Speaker 3: Can you explain that one to me? Because I could
- 6:26Speaker 3: never figure that one out.
- 6:28Speaker 1: I couldn't. There's been a couple things. Stat cast is
- 6:30Speaker 1: like change distances. After they've put one up, they've put
- 6:33Speaker 1: another one out there, They've reconfigured it. There was one game,
- 6:37Speaker 1: actually this happened twice, there was a home run hit
- 6:40Speaker 1: that was said to only be a home run at
- 6:42Speaker 1: Steinberner Field, but not at Yankee Stadium and they have
- 6:45Speaker 1: the exact same dimensions, so couldn't figure that one out either. So, I,
- 6:49Speaker 1: I mean, the stuff those guys do at stat Cast
- 6:51Speaker 1: is obviously remarkable, but I don't know they're having a
- 6:54Speaker 1: couple of incongruities like that that haven't made a lot
- 6:56Speaker 1: of sense. I guess because the Steinburner Field program, I'm
- 7:00Speaker 1: sure was pretty new to what they already have in there.
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- 8:04Speaker 3: All right, Toper, since I have you on, I have
- 8:06Speaker 3: to ask this, are the Rays going back to the
- 8:07Speaker 3: Trot for sure next year? And then when are you
- 8:10Speaker 3: going to have to move to Orlando when they become
- 8:12Speaker 3: the Orlando Rays.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Again. I also had an over underside bet on you
- 8:18Speaker 1: bringing up Orlando. I'm doing really well here. The the
- 8:23Speaker 1: plan is to go back to the Trot. Now. I
- 8:25Speaker 1: think everything we say, given the horrific things that happened
- 8:29Speaker 1: to this community last year, have to be prefaced by
- 8:31Speaker 1: you know, mother nature permitting. Right if there's another hurricane
- 8:35Speaker 1: or even you know, severe storms that that mess up
- 8:38Speaker 1: their plan and cause significant delays or you know, further
- 8:41Speaker 1: damage that would change that. But they are expected to
- 8:44Speaker 1: start work here in June. Start the prep work. They've
- 8:47Speaker 1: already ordered the first part of the roof it's a
- 8:50Speaker 1: very convoluted thing. I guess it's purchased in Germany, assembled
- 8:54Speaker 1: in China and then has to be shipped over here.
- 8:57Speaker 1: Uh So they're still, you know, in the process of that,
- 8:59Speaker 1: but they've got the first part of it ordered. The
- 9:01Speaker 1: idea is that they start working on this in August.
- 9:04Speaker 1: MLB is very involved in this. They're monitoring it. They
- 9:06Speaker 1: have someone like on the working Committee that kind of
- 9:08Speaker 1: meets every week or so. There's a strong effort and
- 9:12Speaker 1: commitment both from the league, the team, the city to
- 9:14Speaker 1: get this thing reopening time to start next season. Now,
- 9:18Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you, if you know,
- 9:20Speaker 1: I assume they'll ask to start the season on the
- 9:22Speaker 1: road if they need a couple extra weeks. I would
- 9:25Speaker 1: assume they call the Yankees back or the Phillies or
- 9:27Speaker 1: something and say, hey, we need a place to play
- 9:29Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. So I do think the
- 9:32Speaker 1: intention is they go back to Troup and they have
- 9:34Speaker 1: three years remaining on their lease. Beyond that, I don't know.
- 9:39Speaker 1: I do know that your buddy's in Orlando, or maybe
- 9:42Speaker 1: you're actually the secret financier. The other people are just
- 9:45Speaker 1: the front men. They've been talking a lot. They are
- 9:48Speaker 1: talking a good game, they're doing press releases, they're putting
- 9:51Speaker 1: out statements, they're putting out videos. They seem very confident.
- 9:55Speaker 1: I have read a couple of stories saying that it's
- 9:56Speaker 1: probably gonna cost more than they estimate, which happens to
- 9:59Speaker 1: every sports enterprise, both buying a team and building a stadium.
- 10:04Speaker 1: But I don't I don't think you should buy all
- 10:08Speaker 1: of the Dreamers shirts yet. Aj. I think you should
- 10:11Speaker 1: don't invest all of your money in those just yet.
- 10:13Speaker 3: Okay, Well, first of all, when they get to Orlando,
- 10:15Speaker 3: they're not going to be called the Dreamers, I can
- 10:17Speaker 3: tell you that. So, but they might also not be
- 10:20Speaker 3: called the Race, so you might have to change into Core.
- 10:22Speaker 1: In your house. Okay, Okay, Well I also think I
- 10:25Speaker 1: won't be covering them then, so I think there's a
- 10:28Speaker 1: long work out. By the way, I have. No, the
- 10:33Speaker 1: Dreamer doesn't do it for you.
- 10:35Speaker 3: No, that was that was Pat Williams who passed away.
- 10:37Speaker 3: That was his. That was his way just to get
- 10:39Speaker 3: a name out there. And uh no, the Dreamers would
- 10:42Speaker 3: not be what the name would be, so it would
- 10:44Speaker 3: be it would also would not be the Athletics. So
- 10:46Speaker 3: we're good with we have two that were covered that
- 10:48Speaker 3: they won't be Okay, it won't be the Athletics and
- 10:50Speaker 3: it won't be the Dreamers. But I do have to
- 10:52Speaker 3: tell this story tover. I saw you in spring training.
- 10:54Speaker 3: I saw you when we were in Clearwater doing our show.
- 10:57Speaker 3: I ran into you and your wife behind home Plate
- 10:59Speaker 3: and I got the witness the first ABS Challenge live
- 11:02Speaker 3: and in living color in person, and you were standing
- 11:05Speaker 3: next to me, and I was like, well, hold on,
- 11:06Speaker 3: I want to see this. And it was quick and
- 11:08Speaker 3: it was cool and I'm all for it. Have you
- 11:10Speaker 3: thought about that anymore? Have you mentioned it to any
- 11:13Speaker 3: other players about how it was in spring training? Because
- 11:15Speaker 3: I thought it was one of the coolest things I
- 11:16Speaker 3: had ever seen, and it was so fast, it was
- 11:18Speaker 3: like boom.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Just hanging out with you, that was the bigger moment
- 11:22Speaker 1: for me than the first ABS Challenge.
- 11:24Speaker 3: I mean I acknowledged you that I actually acknowledged you
- 11:27Speaker 3: in public.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I mean that was that was very cool.
- 11:30Speaker 1: By the way, before I answer your question, I have
- 11:32Speaker 1: to point out that like two days later after I
- 11:34Speaker 1: saw you, as when I fell and broke my leg
- 11:36Speaker 1: in Port Charlotte. My broken kneecap, so I don't know.
- 11:39Speaker 1: I started to wonder if there's been a connection with
- 11:41Speaker 1: that too, or you all that being said, that's true,
- 11:45Speaker 1: you could have psychologically tripped me. I do think that
- 11:48Speaker 1: the players, for the most part liked how quick it was.
- 11:52Speaker 1: I still think there's some debate over if you're going
- 11:56Speaker 1: to do it, should you only have it on the
- 11:57Speaker 1: limited number of challenges and thus you have to kind
- 12:00Speaker 1: of gamble when it is going to be the highest
- 12:02Speaker 1: leverage moment, or should you just have it in place
- 12:04Speaker 1: the system where it's in place for every pitch, or
- 12:07Speaker 1: where it's called automatically. So I don't think there's uniformity
- 12:09Speaker 1: on that, but I do think there was I hate
- 12:12Speaker 1: to say this, Scott, I really hate to say this.
- 12:14Speaker 1: Keep note of this that I agree with AJ, but
- 12:16Speaker 1: I do think the players, for the most part, were
- 12:19Speaker 1: pleased with how quickly it went to My only guys
- 12:21Speaker 1: were used to it, obviously, but the guys you've never
- 12:23Speaker 1: seen it before were pretty pleased with how quickly. The
- 12:25Speaker 1: funnier part was seeing the spring training games in the
- 12:28Speaker 1: ballparks where it wasn't set up, such as the poor
- 12:31Speaker 1: Charlotte Stadium, where players would tap their hat and ask
- 12:33Speaker 1: me for the appeal when it wasn't in place.
- 12:36Speaker 2: There You're on fire today, Topper. You get the agreeings
- 12:44Speaker 2: with AJ, but you also, you know, stole one of
- 12:47Speaker 2: his diss comebacks whatever you want to call it, before
- 12:49Speaker 2: you could drop it, which is always a strong play.
- 12:53Speaker 2: I did feel that one coming as well.
- 12:55Speaker 1: Let me ask you a sorry, god gonna say, after
- 13:00Speaker 1: I saw what Tory Hunter said about him, I had
- 13:01Speaker 1: to be a little more more on the attack.
- 13:05Speaker 3: See the of the one of the greatest compliments I've
- 13:09Speaker 3: ever been given by a next teammate. By the way,
- 13:11Speaker 3: I have to admit that I love you, Tori, but
- 13:12Speaker 3: I didn't.
- 13:13Speaker 1: Expect that, so I appreciate it.
- 13:15Speaker 4: The checks in the may that's exactly, the checks in
- 13:19Speaker 4: the emails.
- 13:21Speaker 2: Uh, the poster out there too, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok whatever
- 13:25Speaker 2: you can find that stuff. I mean, we had great
- 13:27Speaker 2: combos with toy. If you don't know what we're talking about,
- 13:29Speaker 2: let me jump back to raise. Uh, do you think
- 13:31Speaker 2: costs on Kim can make a big impact? And also
- 13:33Speaker 2: do you think if this team hangs around in this
- 13:35Speaker 2: range they will do some slight adding. I know it's
- 13:40Speaker 2: early and we still have to see how things play out,
- 13:42Speaker 2: but they did do a mini fire sale last trade deadline.
- 13:46Speaker 2: I know they don't get the same pressure topper as
- 13:48Speaker 2: other fan bases put on, but there still is a
- 13:50Speaker 2: fan base that would like to see them compete most seasons,
- 13:54Speaker 2: and they would like to see that last year turns
- 13:57Speaker 2: into a more competitive.
- 14:01Speaker 5: Hmtle bit, you're freezing up on me there, you froze
- 14:12Speaker 5: up last year, more competitive team?
- 14:15Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I got the point of her. Scott. I
- 14:18Speaker 1: do think that you know, there's been a there was
- 14:20Speaker 1: a CeNSE ofs extreme disappointment last year. I do think
- 14:24Speaker 1: that they would like to return that. And I think,
- 14:25Speaker 1: you know, knowing how many things went against them this year,
- 14:28Speaker 1: that they were dealing with having to find a new
- 14:31Speaker 1: home and you know, scrambling and having to move to
- 14:33Speaker 1: Steinburner Field and dealing with you know, it's going to
- 14:36Speaker 1: be a season long thing. I mean, John Schneider had
- 14:38Speaker 1: some comments the other day after the Blue Jays lost
- 14:41Speaker 1: about how hard it was to concentrate in the heat
- 14:43Speaker 1: and play in the heat, and you know it's only
- 14:45Speaker 1: going to get worse. So the Rays is going to
- 14:48Speaker 1: be a long nights just going to be rain now,
- 14:50Speaker 1: even with the only handful of games in July and August,
- 14:52Speaker 1: so they know they're up against it. So yeah, I
- 14:55Speaker 1: think there'd be a certain sense of within reason, as
- 14:58Speaker 1: it always is with the Rays, of trying to kind
- 15:00Speaker 1: of show up what they could handle all that they
- 15:02Speaker 1: were faced with this year, all these challenges of having
- 15:05Speaker 1: to relocate, of having to play outdoors in the heat,
- 15:08Speaker 1: and find a way to get into the playoffs. So
- 15:09Speaker 1: I do think they'd be motivated to do that. I
- 15:12Speaker 1: think it go either way too. I think if they
- 15:14Speaker 1: fall out of the race, you can see them trade
- 15:16Speaker 1: some more of these veterans because they really like the
- 15:18Speaker 1: young core, some of these guys that they've got to
- 15:20Speaker 1: look at this part of the year, and some of
- 15:22Speaker 1: the prospects that are on the way. So I think
- 15:24Speaker 1: there could be a lot of action for the Rays
- 15:26Speaker 1: either way come July, depending on where they are in this.
- 15:30Speaker 2: Okay, I like it, and I'm back on frozen topper.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Good stuff. Good to see you.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Appreciate the time, man, We'll talk soon anytime.
- 15:38Speaker 1: AJ can't wait till we hang out again. Buddy.
- 15:41Speaker 2: Oh hold your brother, we got to go to a game,
- 15:45Speaker 2: youk right, You guys come out over to time rid
- 15:49Speaker 2: or Field.
- 15:50Speaker 3: I just got a text for Mike Herman, the Twins
- 15:51Speaker 3: travel guy. He's like, this is the closer going to
- 15:53Speaker 3: be all year. You're not going to come say I.
- 15:55Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't don leagues.
- 16:00Speaker 2: We'll work on a show f T at the minor
- 16:02Speaker 2: leagues for one day.
- 16:03Speaker 1: It's all right. I'm on, come on, come on. You
- 16:05Speaker 1: let you know.
- 16:06Speaker 3: As long as we got shade fans and your conditioning,
- 16:09Speaker 3: I'm good.
- 16:10Speaker 1: And we got Fox. We do have air conditioning in
- 16:13Speaker 1: the press box. There you go. It might happen, all right.
- 16:17Speaker 2: Thanks Topper