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Bittisode 003 Halloween Origins: Jack O‘Lantern · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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  Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to Hooded. What Now the history
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  Speaker 1: You're still rather unwell? Host Katie Charlwood, SEC Parson and
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  Speaker 1: These are the bitty So it's any bits that I
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  Speaker 1: like that I want to talk about, We're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. And because we're still in spooky season, I
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about the history of the jack O Lantum.
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  Speaker 1: So to do this, we're actually gonna have to delve
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  Speaker 1: into mythology a wee bit. The thing about mythology is
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  Speaker 1: the mythology is very important to help you understand history,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it helps teach us where, how and why
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  Speaker 1: something became part of a culture. So the Jack O lantern,
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  Speaker 1: as many of you know, is it's a pumpkin with
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  Speaker 1: a face carved in it, not even a face. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it's got like people do like mad shit. They've got
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  Speaker 1: like funky designs. I go really simple usually when I
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  Speaker 1: do my Jack O lantern, because I do pumpkin Jack
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  Speaker 1: or Jack Skellington from Nightmare before Christmas, Like that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of usually where I aim, because it's pretty simple to do,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't know if you've ever carved a pumpkin,
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  Speaker 1: but it is not simple like I've seen people do
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  Speaker 1: it with drulls and stuff, which honestly seems like a
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  Speaker 1: much better idea. Yeah, here's the thing. Pumpkins, as you
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  Speaker 1: may not know, not quite indigenous to Ireland or Scotland
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  Speaker 1: or anywhere within this particular European temperate zone. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they're probably from other places, but they're not from here. Like,
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  Speaker 1: pumpkins are very much an American thing, especially that bright
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  Speaker 1: orange whatever type of pumpkin that is. I'm sure it
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  Speaker 1: has a proper name. The only pumpkin I know the
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  Speaker 1: name of is a baby bear pumpkin because it is
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  Speaker 1: small and I wanted to grow in in my garden
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  Speaker 1: and then I forgot to do it. So, yes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've never been to a pumpkin patch. I really want
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  Speaker 1: to go to a pumpkin pat like I've never been,
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  Speaker 1: and I really want to go. But that's neither here
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  Speaker 1: nor there. So now that we've got on board that
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  Speaker 1: pumpkins not from here. When you know the people were
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  Speaker 1: out doing the guising of the mummers or they're the
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  Speaker 1: precursor to trigger training, they would have a lantern that
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  Speaker 1: was carved not from a pumpkin, but from a What
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  Speaker 1: do you think it is? I know you're thinking Ireland,
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  Speaker 1: some of you. Some of you, I know what you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: You're thinking it's gonna be a spud, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a potato. But no, my friends, no, not a tatty situation.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a tatty but a turnip. I say, it's
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  Speaker 1: a turnup. It's a Swede. Makes you wonder whether or
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  Speaker 1: not as popular in Scandinavia. But anyway, I I was
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  Speaker 1: a shit joke, kind of did it anyway. Actually, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk about a turn up for a second. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever tried to carve a face
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  Speaker 1: into a turnip. First of all, it is much more terrifying.
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  Speaker 1: A carved turnip face is so much more terrifying than
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  Speaker 1: than a pumpkin. Pumpkins kind of have a little jolly
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  Speaker 1: sense to them, you know, there's a carved turnip. It
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  Speaker 1: just kind of looks like a shrunken boghead, the shrunken
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  Speaker 1: head of a bog body. It's not.
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  Speaker 3: It does not exude whimsical charm, No, it is. It
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  Speaker 3: is scary and so really fucking hard to do. I
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  Speaker 3: tried to carve a turnip, and I swear to God,
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  Speaker 3: but anyway, they would carve a face and said the turnip,
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  Speaker 3: and they would light it and it would become their
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  Speaker 3: way of lighting their weight from.
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  Speaker 1: A to b. I probly thinking this is nice, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So why the fuck is it called a jack a lantern? Well?
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  Speaker 1: It all traces back to Irish folklore and myth, the
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  Speaker 1: story of a man named Stingy Jack. Stingy Jack, well,
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  Speaker 1: in a way not conforming to any Irish stereotype whatsoever,
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  Speaker 1: was a fella who liked a wheat tipple. He did
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  Speaker 1: like a wee drink. Now in fairness, he was known
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  Speaker 1: though to be you know, a wee bit manipulative, a
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  Speaker 1: wee bit deceptive. Do you know any man like that?
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  Speaker 1: It just feels really hmmmm. Anyhow, so he's known as
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  Speaker 1: being a bit of a shithead and you know, sneaky,
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  Speaker 1: silver tongued the whole shaban. And the Devil's like, who
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  Speaker 1: is this man? I must meet him because I don't
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  Speaker 1: quite believe that he can be this prolific, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? So the Devil heads out to Ireland.
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  Speaker 1: He comes up from the fiery depths below and he
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  Speaker 1: waits for his prey. Jack being Jack, was absolutely hammered
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  Speaker 1: dropping along an old country road where he comes upon
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  Speaker 1: a body on a cobblestone path and he's like, what
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  Speaker 1: the actual fuck is this? And he pokes it with
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  Speaker 1: a stick and his face looks at him and it
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  Speaker 1: is the face of pure evil with an eerie grin.
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  Speaker 1: And Jack was like, shit, that's the devil. Hey, he's
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  Speaker 1: eating so this is it? And Jack is like, shit,
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  Speaker 1: I've been an absolute bastard. He's coming from us soul
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  Speaker 1: and he's like wow. Fuck, He's like, and how am
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  Speaker 1: I going to get out of this? But being the
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  Speaker 1: quick thing career is, he goes listen, lucy baby, I
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  Speaker 1: got a last request. Can I have one last drink?
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  Speaker 1: You know, but for entering a hell? And Satan's like,
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  Speaker 1: fuck it, why not? So the devil takes Jack to
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  Speaker 1: a local pub. Jack starts drinking more than one drink,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, as it happens, and Jack's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: thanks very much. Now you have to pay the barman,
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  Speaker 1: and Satan's like this outfort does not have pockets. Where
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  Speaker 1: do you think I'm keeping the change? And then decides
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  Speaker 1: that fine, okay, you know what, and sides, fuck, I
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  Speaker 1: did agree, I'll get the bar tab paid. So he
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  Speaker 1: turns himself into a silver coin, you know, so that
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  Speaker 1: Jack can pay the bartender and then you know, he
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  Speaker 1: can just switch back when he's not looking. And so
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  Speaker 1: he's like, huh, well, you scheming little shit. Absolutely turns
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  Speaker 1: himself into a silver coin and Jack takes the coin.
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  Speaker 1: But does he hand it to the bar man? No,
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  Speaker 1: he fucking does not. He slips it into his pocket.
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  Speaker 1: What else is in his pocket? And you're like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's weird. What if he transforms when he's in there,
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  Speaker 1: You're just gonna have the death burst through your trousers.
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  Speaker 1: When no, but Unbeknownst to Bialgibub, Jack had a crucifix
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  Speaker 1: in his pocket, meaning that what do you mean he
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  Speaker 1: couldn't turn back into his normal devil yourself now because
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  Speaker 1: he's stuck the way he is. He's like, Jack, get
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  Speaker 1: me away from this crucifix. And Jack's like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: but I have a demand. I'll let you be free, devil,
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  Speaker 1: but you're gonna give me ten more years before you
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  Speaker 1: come back from so and the Devil's like, fine, ten
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  Speaker 1: years later, as per his promise, Satan's there and he's like, Jack,
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  Speaker 1: come on, it's been a decade. It's time to go.
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  Speaker 1: And Jack goes, ah, lucy baby, I'm so hungry. Can
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  Speaker 1: I just have one last apple? Satan's like, you want
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  Speaker 1: an apple? I want an apple? Okay, because for some
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  Speaker 1: reason the actual devil didn't think this might be up
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  Speaker 1: to something. But all right, Jack's like, listen, and he
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  Speaker 1: need to climb this tree and get an apple. And
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  Speaker 1: so the devil climbs the tree and as he's up
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  Speaker 1: the tree, somehow Jack has a fucked on of Chris
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  Speaker 1: affixes that he places around the base of the tree,
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  Speaker 1: meaning that the devil is stuck in the tree He's like, buddy,
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  Speaker 1: I've got to take your soul to Hell, and Jack's like,
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  Speaker 1: not today, Satan and makes another demand, and he makes
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  Speaker 1: a deal with the devil, stating the devil will never
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  Speaker 1: take his soul to Hell, and the devil is stuck
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  Speaker 1: up a tree, can't do anything. He's like fine, fine.
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  Speaker 1: The devil, having absolutely no choice in the matter, has
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  Speaker 1: to agree to the deal. So eventually Jack drinks himself
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  Speaker 1: to death and and stinch Jack's soul heads towards the
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  Speaker 1: Pearly Gates and Saint Peter goes, sorry, you're not on
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  Speaker 1: the list because you've spent your whole life just drinking
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  Speaker 1: and being deceitful and full of sin and drinking. You
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  Speaker 1: know you're not coming through those gates. So he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: getting into heaven. So he's like no, Heaven says no.
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  Speaker 1: Then has to travel to the underworld, doesn't he, and
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  Speaker 1: to this point is trying to get into Hell, and
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  Speaker 1: the Devil's like, mm, sorry, oh sorry, Jack. Remember that
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  Speaker 1: time we made a deep where you made sure that
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely would not be able to take your soul
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  Speaker 1: into hell. Well this is what's happening now. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: not a complaint Dick, so he gives Jack an ember
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  Speaker 1: to light his way. Because Stingy Jack is doomed because
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  Speaker 1: he was too sneaky for hell and too shitty for heaven,
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  Speaker 1: his soul was trapped to roam the world between on
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  Speaker 1: the plains between good and evil, with only an ember
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  Speaker 1: to light his way. So this ember, this glowing coal,
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  Speaker 1: effectively stindy Jack, puts it inside a hollow turnip and
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  Speaker 1: roams the earth on the plains between good and evil forever.
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  Speaker 1: So this figure was known in Ireland as Jack of
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  Speaker 1: the Lantern, which eventually became Jack o Lantern. And so
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  Speaker 1: end the story of Stingy Jack. If you liked my
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