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Pitching a Stormtrooper Show · Aggressive Negotiations: A Star Wars Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello there, Welcome to the ned Palty.
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  Speaker 2: Hi.
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  Speaker 3: This is Nick and Ostasy, you lead editor and writer
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  Speaker 3: on Mall shadow Lord, and you're listening to aggressive negotiations.
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  Speaker 2: You have wandered on into the middle of some aggressive negotiations.
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  Speaker 2: A Star Wars podcast here on the Nerd Party Network,
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  Speaker 2: hosted by your two friends, myself, Jedi Master John Mills,
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  Speaker 2: and my dear compatriot, my ever, ever long suffering companion
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  Speaker 2: in this journey, Jedi Master Matthew Rushing. Matt, how are
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  Speaker 2: you doing this evening or day whenever? People are listening
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  Speaker 2: to this across the galaxy?
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  Speaker 1: Thankfully not suffering, John, And one of the main reasons
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  Speaker 1: for that is because I'm here with you to talk
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  Speaker 1: about Star Wars, which is one of my favorite things
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  Speaker 1: to do. And you know, still kind of I feel
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  Speaker 1: like basking in that glo of the Mandalorian and Grogu
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  Speaker 1: and Darth Maul, you know, the mast shadow Lord having
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  Speaker 1: come out, and and so just enjoying the soundtracks that
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  Speaker 1: came out for those as well, and uh, just eager
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  Speaker 1: eagerly anticipating now, uh the hopeful physical release of the
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  Speaker 1: Mandalorian Grogu maybe within the next six months. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I can, I can enjoy all the special features and
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  Speaker 1: I can, you know, do things like watch with the
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  Speaker 1: director's commentary and that kind of stuff. So yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a to me. It's a great
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  Speaker 1: time to be a Star Wars fan, and it's a
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  Speaker 1: great time to be talking with you about Star Wars.
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  Speaker 2: Well, gosh, Matt, I'm kind of torn here because you're
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  Speaker 2: suffering is actually what I enjoy most. But sure, we're here,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about Star Wars. What the heck? And actually
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  Speaker 2: we have made to suffer.
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  Speaker 1: It's our lots in life.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly right. And I think that uh, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: the Jedi Masters out there on ex Twitter. And I
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  Speaker 2: think we're just too old and busy to find any
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  Speaker 2: other topics to find any other networks to be on.
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  Speaker 2: But what I can say, too old and busy to
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  Speaker 2: find any other social networks to be on. But what
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  Speaker 2: I can say is that we promise that if we
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  Speaker 2: ever do go on TikTok. Neither one of us will
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  Speaker 2: ever try to invent a dance, so while.
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  Speaker 1: We won't, no, I think I want to do the
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  Speaker 1: snice doodles, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, oh the side Well, okay, size noodles. Come on,
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  Speaker 2: hold on, are you talking nineteen eighty three size noodles
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  Speaker 2: or are you talking special edition nineteen ninety seven size
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  Speaker 2: mash toodles.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, now see, I like that. I like that. You
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  Speaker 2: can call it, you can call it the stringless Marionette.
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  Speaker 2: And you start off with like the herky jerky movements
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  Speaker 2: and then all you're doing the hip.
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  Speaker 1: Thing exactly like that. It's like you start off with
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  Speaker 1: a lane and then move into something smoother.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I like that. I like that very much.
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  Speaker 2: I just promised that get a couple of drinks in
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  Speaker 2: me and I'll be jaw Yao's up for you, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So I'll just run up and just go Wow, who
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  Speaker 2: can believe has been so long since shaw Yaos came
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  Speaker 2: into our lives. I'll never forget him. May he maybe,
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  Speaker 2: may he forever be in our hearts? So uh, you know, though,
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  Speaker 2: I do have a little fun idea here Matt, because
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking, right, we seem to be, like you said,
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  Speaker 2: we're getting a lot of content for Star Wars, but
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  Speaker 2: we haven't had any announcements for anything. I think D
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  Speaker 2: twenty three is coming up as of this recording. Is
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  Speaker 2: that sometime soon or something like that? Yeah? Probably, sure,
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  Speaker 2: why not they have it, But it feels like there's
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  Speaker 2: got to be some announcement coming along here, right that.
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  Speaker 2: The whole thing is, we've got this new era of
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars going along, and I always think about what
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  Speaker 2: movie or what show could they do? And I was
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  Speaker 2: thinking specifically about the fact that I think we have
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  Speaker 2: an opportunity here, and I want to get your perspective
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  Speaker 2: on this. We have explored the bad Batch and the
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  Speaker 2: Clone Wars, seeing the good soldiers. Good soldiers follow Oders,
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  Speaker 2: we've seen them go through everything, and we've seen the
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  Speaker 2: perspective of the good guys. Are we entering an era
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  Speaker 2: where we could be looking at a show about Stormtroopers
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  Speaker 2: finding their way in the post return of the Jedi
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  Speaker 2: world and being true Star Wars. It's almost like a
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  Speaker 2: mirror image of the Bad Batch, where eventually these guys
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  Speaker 2: are going to get to a good place. But they're
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure out what their lives mean in this
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  Speaker 2: post empire world. Do you think that's a show that
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  Speaker 2: could work in the modern Star Wars era?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, so is the good place like the world
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  Speaker 1: between worlds or like a heaven or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking more than they become decent close instead of stormtroopers.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Oh yeah, okay, no, I figured that's what
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  Speaker 1: you meant. I you know, I think that's an interesting idea.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the reasons is because you know, with
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  Speaker 1: Clones the story as it's set up, they go the
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  Speaker 1: way they do because they don't really have a choice, right,
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  Speaker 1: And those that are able to counterman the programming, it takes,
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  Speaker 1: you know, some sort of freak accident or it takes
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  Speaker 1: intervention by somebody like a Soca or something like that
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  Speaker 1: to have happened for them not to go the way
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  Speaker 1: that they go. But so many people, you know, who
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  Speaker 1: join the Empire, that's their choice, right, And so I
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  Speaker 1: think you do have this really interesting story that you
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  Speaker 1: could tell about the idea of what happens when the
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  Speaker 1: you know, empire ends, and you know, you have those
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  Speaker 1: people coming out of it who really believed in the Empire.
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  Speaker 1: You have those people coming out of it who were
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  Speaker 1: basically doing it for paycheck. You had those people who
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  Speaker 1: were doing it because they actually liked the mayhem and
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  Speaker 1: the murder of it, you know, and being ordered to
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  Speaker 1: do these terrible things. I mean, you have a gamut
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  Speaker 1: that you could run of storytelling opportunities. And I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like you said, Bad Batch, with the way
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  Speaker 1: in which all of those clones speecifically, you know, ended
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  Speaker 1: their run as a clone beholden to the Republic and
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  Speaker 1: then the Empire, it would be fascinating to watch people
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  Speaker 1: who had chosen, for one reason or another to join
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  Speaker 1: the Empire on purpose, and what are their lives like
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  Speaker 1: when they come out of that. You know, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's not that we want to excuse the villainy of
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  Speaker 1: any person, right and specifically you know, choosing to be
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  Speaker 1: a part of something like the Empire. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think one of the beauties of something like the
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  Speaker 1: Bad Batch where Crosshair is a great example of somebody
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  Speaker 1: who just goes with their programming and just continues with
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  Speaker 1: it because it also reinforces previous ideology that he held to.
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  Speaker 1: But you also see all the people like it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: as we watched in and Or who truly believed that
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  Speaker 1: the Empire was doing the right thing right. They had
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  Speaker 1: been suckered into the propaganda from the Empire and they
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  Speaker 1: truly believed it right. And so again like coming out
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  Speaker 1: of that after Return of the Jedi Man, I think
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  Speaker 1: that that does have a lot of a validity, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of validity as a story idea.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad. I'm glad that you do, because sort
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  Speaker 2: of the inspiration point for it is I know that
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  Speaker 2: Tashi and is coming out with a volume collecting the
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  Speaker 2: original Marvel comics Run like a nice deluxe hardcover edition, which,
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  Speaker 2: of course, if I have enough money saved up when
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  Speaker 2: it comes out, I will buy, even though I have
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  Speaker 2: most of the original run still in the original box
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  Speaker 2: that I have everything hidden away in. Trust me, kids,
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  Speaker 2: don't break in. It's worthless. I read the hell out
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  Speaker 2: of those issues. The spines are broken. There's nothing even remote.
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  Speaker 2: If I had it graded by like the Comic Book Guide,
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  Speaker 2: everything would get like a one point three. But just
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  Speaker 2: trust me, they've been run racking.
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  Speaker 1: It's worth this.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, are you the creature of hey Lewis? Because you
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  Speaker 2: were making me laugh. I think that The issue that
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  Speaker 2: inspired this sort of thinking is that there was. It
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  Speaker 2: was issue eighty six. It's sick that I can remember
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  Speaker 2: this many years later that it was issue eighty six.
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  Speaker 2: The cover of it is you see a stormtrooper holding
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  Speaker 2: Princess Leah above a chasm like a canyon, and he's
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  Speaker 2: saying as he holds her, still feeling high and mighty, Princess.
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  Speaker 2: The story is this stormtrooper and Princess Lea wind up
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  Speaker 2: stranded somewhere, sort of like an enemy mind concept for
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  Speaker 2: anybody who's seen that old Lou Gasset Junior Dennis Quaid movie,
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  Speaker 2: and in it they have to help each other try
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  Speaker 2: to survive. But you find out the stormtrooper is actually
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  Speaker 2: from Aldern, and Lea of course, is absolutely floored by this,
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  Speaker 2: like how could you possibly be a stormtrooper? And you
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  Speaker 2: have that sort of back and forth of him saying,
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  Speaker 2: I was doing a job. I'm a soldier, what did
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  Speaker 2: you expect me to do? I'm more an alder On too.
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  Speaker 2: I think there are just some really interesting layers you
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  Speaker 2: could get into. My question is, is okay, I appreciate
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  Speaker 2: that you find that there's validity in that. Do you
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  Speaker 2: think that there's a show in that that people would
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  Speaker 2: want to watch because you're guaranteed to have no Jedi
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  Speaker 2: in it, and you're guaranteed to just be focused on
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  Speaker 2: these troopers as they go through the galaxy and try
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  Speaker 2: to find their way. I think you could even have
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  Speaker 2: a bad Batch like Core, where what you're saying, one
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  Speaker 2: of them is the true believer and two of them
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  Speaker 2: are like, well no, I was just sort of I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know they were doing this, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 2: And then you have maybe a commanding officer that's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I kind of knew that we were on the wrong side,
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  Speaker 2: but what am I going to do? My duty was
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  Speaker 2: to protect you guys, and have that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is this an animated series? Is this a
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  Speaker 2: live action series? Do you think they could do this
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  Speaker 2: with live action?
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a good question as to what it
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  Speaker 1: should be. You know, I do see that the animated
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  Speaker 1: route would probably be easier for them in some senses, right,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, you're it's just let it's probably more
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  Speaker 1: cost effective most likely. And I was thinking of from
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  Speaker 1: two perspectives with the animation idea. Is this something where
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  Speaker 1: it's almost like you did a tales of and you
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  Speaker 1: follow you know, three different stormtroopers coming out of the Empire,
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  Speaker 1: and they have three completely different perspectives, right, uh, you
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  Speaker 1: know one's contrite. One is belligerent, you know, the other
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  Speaker 1: is maybe just completely messed up from his experience. You know,
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  Speaker 1: many people who come out of war, right, they have
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  Speaker 1: the PTSD from it. And I think that could be
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  Speaker 1: really interesting idea and the and that's that's where my
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  Speaker 1: mind went immediately when I'm thinking of the animated idea,
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  Speaker 1: because do you think because I think this is the
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  Speaker 1: main question. Is this an idea that supports like an
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  Speaker 1: entire season of something or is it better within a
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  Speaker 1: short run because it just allows us to explore those
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  Speaker 1: interesting ideas without having to try and artificially continue the story,
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  Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: I do. I think the big question becomes, what's your
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  Speaker 2: point of attack? At what point are we meeting these guys?
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  Speaker 2: And I think you if you wanted to have it
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  Speaker 2: be a full season show, it would have to be
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  Speaker 2: started anywhere but the Battle of end or because it's
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  Speaker 2: got to start somewhere else and maybe they're deserting or
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  Speaker 2: something well, or or what idea? What do you think
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  Speaker 2: would be the certain point.
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  Speaker 1: You said something about Endoor and immediately clicked. Like, my
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  Speaker 1: wife and I just we showed a friend of ours
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  Speaker 1: Star Wars for the first time. She knew very little
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  Speaker 1: about Star Wars. We finally got through all of them.
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  Speaker 1: We finished Return of the Jedi. She was like, I
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  Speaker 1: think that's my favorite, uh, the last two her favorites,
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  Speaker 1: and so h it was wonderful. But Rex, right, It
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  Speaker 1: just made me think of what if a storm Trooper
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  Speaker 1: or three Stormtroopers surrender to Rex on Endoor, right, and
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  Speaker 1: and you have that juxtaposition of and and so that
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  Speaker 1: maybe is our end for the story. And what if
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  Speaker 1: it's about Rex trying to help these guys be rehabilitated. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and and and the difference between how each of these three.
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  Speaker 2: Guys approach I like this. I like this a lot
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  Speaker 2: because by having Rex as the underpinning of the show,
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  Speaker 2: you have an opportunity because you have a character who's
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  Speaker 2: gone through the whole journey all the way there, and
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  Speaker 2: he can be a great counselor for people, sort of
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  Speaker 2: the way Captain America winds up being a counselor for
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  Speaker 2: people after you know, the snap in Infinity war, He's
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  Speaker 2: been through it. He can counsel people how to make
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  Speaker 2: life work after, you know, terrible tragedy in their lives.
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  Speaker 1: Life after Empire.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's like right, yeah, But the thing I
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  Speaker 2: struggled with with Endoor, tell me if this this plays
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  Speaker 2: in it for you at all? The thing I struggle
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  Speaker 2: with for Endoor is simply the fact that I think
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  Speaker 2: that Endoors a starting point got burned out by some
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  Speaker 2: of the early New EU literature that Disney released, where
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  Speaker 2: it seemed everybody was used Endoors the flashpoint for their story,
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  Speaker 2: and it was like that that's the one thing is
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  Speaker 2: is that just a personal thing that I have? Is
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  Speaker 2: that something that is just my own hang up? Because
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  Speaker 2: I would say, I like the idea of bringing Rex in,
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  Speaker 2: but I would even enjoy seeing these people start at
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  Speaker 2: one of the celebrations at at Bestpin or even on
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  Speaker 2: tato wine, like so you know, troops on tatowine first
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  Speaker 2: and foremost, we love to start things on tato wine.
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  Speaker 2: But additionally having them at some outpost where you can,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, not excuse, but understand how somebody could say, look,
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  Speaker 2: I just enlisted because what else was I going to do?
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to be a soldier. I wasn't thinking
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  Speaker 2: about anything, and he just spends his whole career, as
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  Speaker 2: it were, just like post it on some dustball planet
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  Speaker 2: where the worst thing that ever happens is he has
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  Speaker 2: to like stun a jahua who's trying to steal their
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  Speaker 2: speeder or something.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do get what you're saying. And I think
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  Speaker 1: one of the things that when I think of the
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  Speaker 1: idea of that, there have been you know, other mediums
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  Speaker 1: where we've talked about things like you know, what Happened
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  Speaker 1: after Indoor and that kind of stuff. I'm reminded that
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  Speaker 1: Dave Filoni over wrote the Zoka novel by doing his
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  Speaker 1: version of that story and had no problem with it.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's where I you know, I love you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the expanded material mm hm. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: if we have a good enough story, I don't care
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  Speaker 1: about overwriting it and maybe giving us the definitive version,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I know you don't either.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure I would not object. I would not overwriting
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  Speaker 2: that material at all.
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  Speaker 1: But I think, you know, I think there is a
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  Speaker 1: lot of different storytelling options here, you know, in all honesty,
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  Speaker 1: I think what we're seeing is as we're talking about this,
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of different ways that you could
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  Speaker 1: attack this. You know, I still am quite taken just
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  Speaker 1: with the idea that Rex is somehow involved, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and because again, like you said, that gives you you're
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  Speaker 1: in And the other part about this is right, is
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  Speaker 1: that it begins the question, and this is I think
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  Speaker 1: the other big question, right is what do we do
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  Speaker 1: with all of these people? And we've seen a little
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  Speaker 1: bit that in the Mandalorian right, the Rehabilitation Project. We
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  Speaker 1: just finished talking about the Mandalorian season three, and we
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  Speaker 1: saw that these people who are working for the New Republic.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it would be more interesting to actually
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  Speaker 1: delve into that in a way that didn't feel so
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  Speaker 1: truncated and you know, maybe not as well done as
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  Speaker 1: we would hope for a story of that magnitude. And
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  Speaker 1: so what I think we're coming to is that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you just can't, you know, get away from these type
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  Speaker 1: of stories because they I think they do give us
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to see how, you know, our heroes differ
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  Speaker 1: from those that they fought right and those and how
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  Speaker 1: they treat those who were on the other side. I
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  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of great storytelling for that.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're right, because the we could see the
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  Speaker 2: birth of the rehabilitation program in a sense by we
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  Speaker 2: see everybody celebrating in the Ewoks playing the helmets as
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  Speaker 2: part of the music, and then the camera just sort
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  Speaker 2: of scans down and there's a slightly lower level where
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  Speaker 2: all of the guys whose helmets those are. I know,
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  Speaker 2: I know, we love to joke that the Ewoks ate
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  Speaker 2: them and stuff like that, but those guys, they're the
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  Speaker 2: ones sitting down there. And you have Rex saying, hey, look,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of mess out there. You willing to
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  Speaker 2: give this a shot cleaning up? And you can have
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  Speaker 2: that discussion. It's the same day you guys just beat us.
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  Speaker 2: You're reaching out your hand and Rex saying, if somebody
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  Speaker 2: hadn't reached out her hand to me at the worst
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  Speaker 2: possible moment, I wouldn't have been where I am. And
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  Speaker 2: I owe it to her to help you guys if
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  Speaker 2: you want it. And we are following people who chose
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  Speaker 2: in that moment to say, yeah, you know what, what
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  Speaker 2: have I got to lose?
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I think the beauty of this is a
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  Speaker 1: storytelling structure, right, Is that just like the bad Batch did.
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  Speaker 1: This allows us to be able to tell larger stories
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  Speaker 1: within the Star Wars galaxy. Right, You know that these
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  Speaker 1: guys that are being rehabilitated with Rex are then a
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  Speaker 1: part of storylines that help us understand the formation of
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  Speaker 1: the New Republic and all that kind of stuff like
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  Speaker 1: and they get to beat heroes that are much easier
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  Speaker 1: to do again in animation, where whether it's Luke or
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Han or Lea or Chewy or other characters like that.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Right that it just it allows you to play with
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: all of those toys in the sandbox without having to
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: worry about how much money do we have to spend
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: to try and do this in live action. And you
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: know that's one of the things that we've talked about
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  Speaker 1: many times. In fact, we were even just talked about
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  Speaker 1: it on our last episode. Right that the animation has
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: really in many ways become the glue of Star Wars,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: where it is bringing together some disparate elements, right and
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: trying to make sense of it. Because Star Wars has
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: always been in a continuously told story. Is it is
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: an alternate history of a galaxy far far away, right,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: and everything is interconnected in a way that helps tell
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  Speaker 1: the larger hole, you know, And so I think by
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: telling this story it allows them to be able to
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  Speaker 1: do that alongside of something like what we've been getting
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  Speaker 1: in Mando, right, it's another opportunity to kind of try
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: and sew together the Star Wars galaxy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I think I think it's something
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to work on, and I think that it's something that
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: could really be interesting because it is coming from a
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  Speaker 2: different angle where you're not starting with the good guys,
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  Speaker 2: but you can go on a path where they become
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  Speaker 2: them and they find their way to it and we
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  Speaker 2: can see what I think is that hopeful note that
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  Speaker 2: persists throughout Star Wars, that the larger bend of the
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: galaxy of history of life is to end up toward
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  Speaker 2: something a little better that even though you go through
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  Speaker 2: difficult moments, the better future is always there and you
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  Speaker 2: can't you can't give up on it. And like again,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: you could have Rex saying that same thing when they
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: get down trodden. You know, Rex comes in for that
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: special episode where he goes, I've been where you are, man,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I understand I'd go I had to go to ground
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  Speaker 2: and hide and it wasn't until you know, they found
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  Speaker 2: me again while I was on an old converted ad
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: at wandering through the wilderness, that I suddenly knew it
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: was time to come back in yeah and yeah and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: have those references there.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Well, And you know, I think the other thing about
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: this that that I think really works is that George
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: was very keen that Star Wars stories were bastion of
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: good morals, meanings and messages.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: He was very keen on this idea, and all of
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: his stories, in some way, shape or form do that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: And I think what our world needs more than anything
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: right now is that we need to show people that
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: find a path to redemption, right, find paths to forgiveness.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: And our world is in desperate need of being reminded
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: that what we all need most is redemption.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: We've all done things that we're not proud of, every
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: one of us, and and so for us to be
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: able to find that is really important. I think this
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: could be a show that really does that. And so
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: in all honesty, I think, as we've talked about this,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I truly believe that this is a story idea that
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: we should sell the to Dave Filoni. So guess we
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: better call him and just get on it right now.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: And I think it. Yeah, I think we've got a
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: great show for him. Here at Animation, we've got a
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: new show for you, guys.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's great. And in fact, if they want
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: to reach out to you and discuss the terms of
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: our being hired Matt as showrunners for this, even though
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: neither one of us has any idea what a showrunner does,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I think we'd be great at it. Anyway, I think
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: we'd be excellent at it. I don't know what Hey,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: look at me, I'm throwing around an industry term showrunner. Bang,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: there you go. I know what I'm doing. There you go.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: But if they wanted to reach out to you about
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: the details for our contract, where could they find you online?
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Well, you could find me all over social media onner
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the name Matt Rushing zero two. So hit me up there, Lucas,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Phil John and I ready for work. You can also
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: find me here on the Nerd Party network doing another
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: show called Outposts, talk about every single chapter of the
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Harry Potter series one chapter of Time. And I'm also
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: on the TFM network doing a bunch of shows once
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: called the six oh two Club, talking about all of
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the franchises we love. John's a frequent guest over there.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Plus you can find me with a lot of great
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: star trek talk there too, with my good friend Chris Jones.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: But John, if people wanted to, you know, contact you
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: and you get us a job with Lucasfilm, where can
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: they find you?
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Well, you can find me out there as kessel Junkie
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: over at kesseljunkie dot com or on your social network
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: of choice. My preferred ones are Letterboxed and good Reads.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Please join me over there. I am active on a
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: few others, but you know, catches catch can mostly a lurker,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: And of course you can find me here on the network,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: co hosting another show called house Lights with Tristan Riddell
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: and Darren Moser, where we talk about movies that are
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: not Star Wars, because I would probably reach through the
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: screen and slap them for some of the thoughts that
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: they have about that. So, Matt, all of that said,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I can very clearly see that somebody is signaling that
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: we need to go back and sign a contract back
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: at the Temple. So I think it's time to close
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: these negotiations.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: John, negotiations are closed. Join the Revolution, Join the Nerd Party.