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Tony Vitello On How He Landed Historic San Francisco Giants Manager Role + From CBB To MLB | Bussin' · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Fellas doing well? Good football recap show yesterday, Great Broke Down,
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  Speaker 6: Of good ball, football porn episode. If you like to
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  Speaker 6: get in the weeds of football and the ex's and
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  Speaker 6: evolution of the game basically coming from the tight end position.
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  Speaker 6: Everything happened that is in the recap show. This is
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  Speaker 6: the Bustin intro and Boys. Spootober is over. Another year
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  Speaker 6: is gone, Another year has passed. Moment of silence for Spootober.
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  Speaker 1: It's been an interesting year for sure.
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  Speaker 6: Last week I said on this bus wall you find
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  Speaker 6: gentlemen were dressed up in your best Halloween costumes. It
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  Speaker 6: was beautiful, it was wonderful. There's only one thing missing.
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  Speaker 6: The head of Spooktober, the man who dubs himself number
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  Speaker 6: one of all Spookiness, was not wearing that I like
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  Speaker 6: to believe I wrote the ship a little bit throughout
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  Speaker 6: the week. That's not for me to say, put it
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  Speaker 6: in your court. I'm basically putting words in your guys's mouth.
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  Speaker 6: I will take the compliment, thank you. But a hell
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  Speaker 6: of a Spootober for the Lawan family. The Lawan family
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  Speaker 6: as a whole didn't watch as many spooky movies as
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  Speaker 6: I wanted, didn't get my adult fix of Spooktober that
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  Speaker 6: I like to get. But from a family standpoint, Disney
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  Speaker 6: World Mickey Mouse is not so scary Halloween. We had
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  Speaker 6: the trick or treating, we carved pumpkins, we had I
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  Speaker 6: think my kids trigger treated three separate times, including a
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  Speaker 6: Halloween party as well. So overall I.
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  Speaker 1: Have to get We hit Nico Lane.
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  Speaker 6: By the way, dude, if I'm ever gonna move from
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  Speaker 6: my house in Nashville, Tennessee, that's the neighborhood I'm moving into.
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  Speaker 6: It is they bought in. You could tell there's a
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  Speaker 6: couple of bad apples, Like there's four or five houses
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  Speaker 6: out there that either they're too old or they're anti Halloween.
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  Speaker 6: But that whole neighborhood, dude lined up. There was a
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  Speaker 6: tent where adults could go and get their adult beverages
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  Speaker 6: while the kids were hitting the trick or treating Willie
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  Speaker 6: see hit me up?
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  Speaker 5: Hey.
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  Speaker 6: We went to this place last year, my neighbors telling
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  Speaker 6: me this is the spot to go, and I was
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  Speaker 6: dealing with gout, which we'll talk about in a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: But that was the That was trick or treating. That's
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  Speaker 6: trigger treating on staireroids.
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  Speaker 1: Dude.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody's dressed up, everyone's having a good time. Parents are
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  Speaker 6: making jokes and other parents of like what costumes we're in.
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  Speaker 6: We're all kind of staying in character with each other.
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  Speaker 6: Your family was dialed in. I thought. Every time I
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  Speaker 6: looked at Charo, I laughed, Bro, I would see what
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  Speaker 6: you just hear just Charles's voice coaching. Oh hey Taylor,
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  Speaker 6: shit all right? Bing bomb. But dude, just so funny
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  Speaker 6: it was. It was outstanding. And there was like roadblocks
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  Speaker 6: with the police officers. You get down the street and
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  Speaker 6: it was like a firework display where like the finale
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  Speaker 6: was the last house in the left. Dude, their display.
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  Speaker 6: I looked at the tail and I go, we gotta
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  Speaker 6: step our ship up, dude, Like this is I like
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  Speaker 6: to take a lot of pride in the decorations you
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  Speaker 6: put in the one household this house, their lights, their decorations.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, this ship is incredible. That is amazing.
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  Speaker 6: And Charles's parents too, I didn't even realize it was them.
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  Speaker 6: What stuff about that?
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  Speaker 7: He's like, Ah, just Will having to be year. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: he crushed it, he owned the role. He crushed the role.
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  Speaker 7: But it just doesn't sit right with me that he
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  Speaker 7: was that he was assigned to be feared.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not Will. That's not what I hate that
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  Speaker 1: that got used against me immediately, That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 7: Like that, And it won't be the last time.
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  Speaker 1: Nebraska, anytime they showed me play a top twenty five team.
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  Speaker 7: It's just me, Bro, it's now there forever. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 7: put in way too much work to have that be
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  Speaker 7: your legacy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't disagree with that.
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  Speaker 6: I thought you knocked out of the park a couple
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  Speaker 6: of things too. Yell a little piece of green in your teeth?
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  Speaker 1: Oh thank you.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna get that out of the way. Side
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  Speaker 6: other side of the side of the said, ah, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: one over to the one over yeap, that one?
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  Speaker 1: Did you get it?
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  Speaker 6: Smile?
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  Speaker 1: At me.
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  Speaker 6: Boom, He's back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude.
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  Speaker 6: The whole though fit was it was outstanding.
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  Speaker 7: Who was the winner that y'all saw? Like everybody looked
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  Speaker 7: and was like, dang, that's a good costume.
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  Speaker 6: I saw one dad in a Willie Wonka fit, yes,
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  Speaker 6: but it was like, well, like a very well like
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  Speaker 6: actual three piece. I probably got a custom made. I'm like,
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  Speaker 6: this dude really sold out. Good looking cat good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: had the longer hair, the big hat on the cane.
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  Speaker 6: I was with that. Yeah, I saw a times.
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  Speaker 1: The second time around, He's like, what's up, will And
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, we're both just not awkwardly
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  Speaker 1: staring at each other. I thought he just looked great
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  Speaker 1: in the Willy Wonker.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think the first time I met
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  Speaker 6: he was like, bro, you really that's awesome. He's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: you too, Dobby, And I was like, ship, all right,
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  Speaker 6: you understand my game. You understand my game a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: Look at that hot dog. Yeah. Anyway, dude, Spootober was awesome.
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  Speaker 6: It was awesome for the ones. I'm sure the confidence
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  Speaker 6: had a great time. Would you just call Pumpkins?
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  Speaker 1: No covering Pumpkins? We kind of gave up after last week, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I shut down the entire house. Okay, Taylor quit on that.
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  Speaker 1: We gotta pack it in. Don't say that we gotta.
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  Speaker 7: So just to be clear, are you stepping down or
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  Speaker 7: are you not?
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  Speaker 6: I can't step that. If you guys think there's somebody
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  Speaker 6: that's more fit at this bus, I can't stop you.
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  Speaker 6: This as a democracy, there's no hierarchy here. I would
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  Speaker 6: love another opportunity, cause you're right, listen the multiple gambling
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  Speaker 6: shows the ESPN. My brain got too like focused on
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  Speaker 6: my weekly routine that when Spootober came, I didn't give
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  Speaker 6: it what it should have been. I see where I
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  Speaker 6: went wrong, and I apologize for that. I could be better.
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  Speaker 6: And then it was just I just mashed a bunch
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  Speaker 6: of it in the last week, mashed.
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  Speaker 8: I do want to throw it out there. I don't
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  Speaker 8: think it would be like a democracy type thing of like,
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  Speaker 8: oh we vote for somebody to replace Taylor. They would
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  Speaker 8: have to challenge you head on to a spook off.
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  Speaker 8: I think it's like a one v one Battle of.
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  Speaker 6: The Spook, Battle of the Spook.
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  Speaker 8: I don't think anybody's going to challenge you, though. I
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  Speaker 8: think you still are the Prince of darkness. But I
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  Speaker 8: just wanted to put it out there, a spook off
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  Speaker 8: if somebody wanted.
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  Speaker 6: To challenge you know, the person that I think would
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  Speaker 6: challenge me and probably have the most likelihood of success
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  Speaker 6: is the person that was just talking on the mic.
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  Speaker 8: I don't have it. I ain't got it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll break it down, you know, we'll look at we'll
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  Speaker 1: look at the winds of Speotober, We'll look at what worked,
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  Speaker 1: what didn't, where there's opportunity, and it'll be a collective brand,
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  Speaker 1: like we're gonna have to get more guys involved, because again,
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  Speaker 1: we were in a this was a big, massive contract
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  Speaker 1: here for Taylor, and I think if you're looking at
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  Speaker 1: it front office wise, you're gonna have to figure out
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  Speaker 1: something replaceable for what we did.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't like any of that. I like the way
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  Speaker 6: that felt at all happen.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, you make the bed. You have to be able
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  Speaker 6: to sit there and be like, hey, why is he
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  Speaker 6: saying that? Why is it hurt? Because there's truth in it,
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  Speaker 6: That's why it hurts. And I have to sit there
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  Speaker 6: and I have to realize, listen, it's November three, right now. Correct.
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  Speaker 6: I got a long way to the next Speutober, the
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  Speaker 6: longest ways you can possibly get. And there's a lot
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  Speaker 6: of reflecting I need to do you as well, the
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  Speaker 6: front office, you guys. You guys need to have your
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  Speaker 6: internal conversations. Then I shouldn't be a part of because
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  Speaker 6: I didn't earn that right. And I just hope at
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  Speaker 6: the end of the day we get to September and
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  Speaker 6: we know spoo to obra's on the horizon, you guys
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  Speaker 6: can look at me and be like, we're gonna give
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  Speaker 6: you one more shot. Yeah, that's all I'm that's all
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  Speaker 6: I'm hoping for.
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  Speaker 1: How many days are we until Spootober?
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  Speaker 6: Oh it has to be three hundred and thirty one?
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  Speaker 1: We just typed that out right now on Twitter. It's
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  Speaker 1: not oh yeah, yeah, no, yeah, sixties yeah, sixty.
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  Speaker 6: One because Spootobra starts October one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes, that's another great point. We're leading.
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  Speaker 6: It might be thirty one, thirty two. Are you just
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  Speaker 6: tweeting that you just tweeted that out.
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  Speaker 1: I might have to be the guy. I might.
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  Speaker 6: If there's a guy here that's gonna hold it, it's
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  Speaker 6: not gonna be you.
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  Speaker 1: I might have to like next year, like when Merch
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  Speaker 1: comes out and everything else, I just might have to
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  Speaker 1: be the guy for Spootobra.
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  Speaker 6: Spook Off. Yeah it doesn't. We can actually have a No,
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  Speaker 6: I haven't, and I know that I just did it out.
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  Speaker 1: You're lying, No I didn't. No, I'm like, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: now will I when this episode comes out? So that
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  Speaker 1: way everybody's in on the inside joke. But yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's more of that. It's like mere Monday, We've got
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  Speaker 1: to take a good, hard look in the mirror. We
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  Speaker 1: have to get uncomfortable and be like, what's going to
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  Speaker 1: push if? If Spootober is going to be a real
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  Speaker 1: thing for the brand, we got to remove the we
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  Speaker 1: had fun as a family. Is like do we want
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  Speaker 1: this to be a hobby or do we want this
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  Speaker 1: to be a thing for the brand?
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  Speaker 6: But let's look at the last week, right, You're only
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  Speaker 6: as good as your last week in Spootober and I
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  Speaker 6: think if you want to Bee brought it home. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: we're talking about eight different eight different costumes in ESPN.
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  Speaker 1: You needed a lot of motivating starting last Monday.
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  Speaker 6: When we is to not be motivated by others, be
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  Speaker 6: motivated by yourself. How do you beat yesterday. That's the
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  Speaker 6: goal here.
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  Speaker 1: He's being Michigan.
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  Speaker 7: It's like last year they're having a down year, but
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  Speaker 7: they come in and they beat a house state at
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  Speaker 7: the end. Yeah, it's kind of it's it's a reflection.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of Like it's like if
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  Speaker 1: there's an analogy, it just feels like the Mitch's fandom.
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  Speaker 1: Mitch's fandom in this last spook okay, and.
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  Speaker 6: Like when I was really challenging him about it, we're
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  Speaker 6: just kind of starting to try to hurt at this point,
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  Speaker 6: like we're really driven a point at home. If we
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  Speaker 6: won't have a spook off, that's fine, but it's like,
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  Speaker 6: what do you really want this? It's like, yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 6: It's like but you think about it, Yeah, but I
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  Speaker 6: still want it. But I could also Yeah, but I
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  Speaker 6: still want it. Like, hey, I could be better, no
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  Speaker 6: doubt about it. Did I drop the ball, especially in
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  Speaker 6: the middle of Spootober, No doubt. Did I kind of
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  Speaker 6: have a massive lawan family spoot.
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  Speaker 1: Ober, No doubt.
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  Speaker 6: But when it comes to bus with the boys, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: could promote the merch better, could have came in with
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  Speaker 6: more outfits, could have done a whole there's I could
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  Speaker 6: have done a little bit more work for a much
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  Speaker 6: better result. And that's really what you look at. It
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  Speaker 6: didn't take much to have the last week that I did.
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  Speaker 6: It's just like a little motivation and I need to
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  Speaker 6: zoom out a little bit and realize what we did
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  Speaker 6: on ESPN there that could have been every single week here,
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  Speaker 6: so I'll be better. Someone wants to have a spook off,
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  Speaker 6: we can have a spook off it that's fine. By the
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  Speaker 6: end of the day, what's the most important. It's celebrating Spooktober.
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  Speaker 6: That's the most important thing. So let's not have to
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  Speaker 6: be about Taylor or Will or JP or Mitch's fandom
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  Speaker 6: that way animally just takes bullets. This is about well,
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  Speaker 6: it's like the opening season of the holidays, and we've
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  Speaker 6: opened the season.
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  Speaker 1: We had.
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  Speaker 6: It was a little bit rough, we got it good
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  Speaker 6: with at the end. Now we're looking forward. What's next?
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  Speaker 6: Is it Christmas? Is it is it Thanksgiving? Like that's
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  Speaker 6: the now debate what's going on here, and let's get
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  Speaker 6: let's let's have fun, let's enjoy it, because at the
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  Speaker 6: end of the day, we know, hey, this product wasn't
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  Speaker 6: good enough. Taylor all right. I understand that, we understand that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: if you want to there's another thing you want to say,
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  Speaker 6: You're more than you know.
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  Speaker 1: If there's ever space we get to say a few things.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, uh, we're really coming down hard on Matt
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  Speaker 1: for turning off the TV. It felt like this was
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  Speaker 1: a moment where you've turned off the TV, you turned
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  Speaker 1: it back on. There's some redemption in here. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 1: I think the team like we've we've all we've all realized, like,
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  Speaker 1: how do we get the best out of our guy? Like,
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  Speaker 1: how do we motivate our guide? I think we've kind
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  Speaker 1: of found those I think we've kind of found those buttons.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think the goal now for me internally
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  Speaker 6: when I have my own internal conversations with me, is Okay,
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  Speaker 6: they motivated you this year. How do you bring the
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  Speaker 6: motivation and stay consistently motivated through thirty one days of
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  Speaker 6: fright without having them have to come and pull you
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  Speaker 6: out of the weeds. Totally fair? I see that. Let
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  Speaker 6: me get back it. Let me I'm starting to work.
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  Speaker 6: It's like, dude, it's like Santa and his elves, Like
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  Speaker 6: I'm working towards Spooktober now, Like it it takes three
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  Speaker 6: sixty five to have them more with them thirty one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but is there another analogy you want to use.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, if I'm having internal conversations with myself,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, all right, you know how to motivate your guy.
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  Speaker 1: You got to continue to coach him hard when those
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  Speaker 1: opportunities come, and so at collectively we will be we'll
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  Speaker 1: all be doing that, right, yeah, we all will all
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  Speaker 1: be better, be better. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I forget the fact that I just said I can
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  Speaker 6: motivate myself and all that, but I.
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  Speaker 1: Know, but I'm just saying, I know a player feels
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  Speaker 1: that way. But sometimes it's like, hey, this is how
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  Speaker 1: you got to coach this player, right, this is how
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  Speaker 1: you got to motivate that.
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  Speaker 6: And then a lot of times the players are gonna
• 14:59
  Speaker 6: find out are you going to mature a player? Are
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: you not? And I feel like this is an opportunity
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: for me to mature as a player.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: But yes, as that coaches like this guy's been on
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: the roster for four or five years, for four or
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: five years, and.
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: I had it down. Here're gonna throw me away?
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: He has not been several years.
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: Last year said last year was the best year season
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: which every single week we went out and we got
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: we went to uh Spirit Halloween together, we went and
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: got pumpkins. Together, we displayed we got pumpkins and say
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: these are the personalities. Last year was a great year.
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: You can't look at this year and look at last
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: year and be like, now both years are bad. This
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: is not a great year. That was not a great year.
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: Did it get better at the end, yes, but do
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: we know, like, hey, one blip on the radar, one
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: blip on the radars, all of a sudden it changed
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: the last four or five years. That's how losing franchises
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: continue to lose. We want to be a winning franchise.
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: Let's not make it. Let's not steamroll, Let's not just Hey,
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: this is a step at a time. Look at the mountain.
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: Now look at the first step. Let's take the first step.
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: That's November a contract year, going to contract year, contract
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: yearn for another year.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: And we know contract we know collectively the things we
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: gotta do to just push continue to push this thing.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: For he's a he's a great player, who franchise tagged him.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: We need one more, one more per year. Yeah, you
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: gotta get good pieces around him. That's where he flourished.
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: And I'm sitting here saying, coach, fuck the new pieces.
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: I can do this. I'm griving you by the caller.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I can do this. I know, I know.
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: We all we Yeah, we don't need anybody else. We
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: got everything we get is right in here. Regardless of negativity.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna have not negativity. Iss, just a learning
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: This is a learning moment. Sometimes it was.
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: The first three times get a chipper out there. Now
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: it's just negativity. I was like, hey, I learned from it.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: You're like, yeah, but but I learned from it.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: But the goal is how do we make it better?
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: How many times you're gonna have the conversation? Right if
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: you're if you're explaining to somebody an issue and they
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: say I got it, are you going to continue to
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: man's playing at them, or you're gonna let them count
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: of fucking they say they got it, let me see
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: if they actually got it. Because I've got it, I
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: understand this is what this is for the team into
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: Mitch's fandom. It's all right, crazy, but all right, I
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: understand what you're trying to say. Yeah, but it's also
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: like Matt turning off the TV. It's like, all right,
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: I still got it, Like what are we doing here?
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: At some point I gotta be like, hey, I gotta
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: defend myself now.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is you are exactly what I need you
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: to be right now. Okay, so we got you. We need.
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: People talk about Dylan Royol a broken fib, throwing out
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: wristbands and ship like. No one's talking about Taylorwan having
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: gout on Thursday switching into eight different outfits. No one's
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: talking about Taylorwan having gout, sitting on an air strip
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: for forty five ninety minutes wait to take off and
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: whether that could have taken out planes when we made
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: to Nashville. No one's talking about Taylorwan have a gout
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: with no medicine and his kids walking multiple miles during
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: trigger treat and not flinching because his kids got to
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: have the trick or treat. All right, they know their
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: dad's gonna be they it is his dad's holiday, all right. Yes,
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: Saturday November first, was I up on the couch with
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: my foot elevated, hitting rice all day?
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: I was, But it was because of Spootober. It was
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: for Spootober. Am I in pain right now sitting on
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: this bus. You bet your ass I am. But it
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: was because of Spootober. So don't come at me and
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: say my dedication is not there all right after I've
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: said I've got it, and then you want to pile on.
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: But boys, hey, let me tell you something about gout.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: It's no fucking joke.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't.
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: I would probably wish with on my worst enemy. But
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: like people I just don't like, I would not wish
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: this on. Gout is horrendous diet. Like I used to think,
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: gout was like a for heavier set gentleman who treat
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: their body, yeah like that, treat their body like shit.
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: Like I try to be pretty good in the health
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: and wellness category, especially as how many you know how
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: many times you dive had first into a pile. You
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: guess they head of the chains a little bit. I'm
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: I've treated my body like shit the last month, no doubt.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: There's been a couple of snickers laying around late at
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: night in a dark alley, and I think you shouldn't
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: be here all by yourself. I go and take them
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: boys down. I'm paying for it. I earned this. I
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: have to essentially change my relationship with food, because this
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: is like, I hope you guys never have to deal
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: with gout. It is is.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: This something you have that's just like genetic to where
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you're dying.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: I don't know that'd be good for the comment section
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: because I don't think my dad ever had it. I
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: don't know anybody in my family ever talking about me.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: And it's just like a month of just having some
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: fun with some food. It's like I do that all
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the time, dude.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: It is sharp. Like so Wednesday night, we get there.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: My foot was a little sore, which I didn't think
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: much of. Go to sleep, wake up for like whatever,
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: five whatever I am for ESPN, stand up, literally fall
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: to the ground. I feel like a gunshot, like similar
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: to what you're talking about when you hit your foot injury.
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: A gunshot going off in your foot like that fucking hurts.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: But a lot of times gout's like very like a
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: cute It'll be in one little area of your foot,
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: so you can overcomp it to like okay, I'll just
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: stay on like the outside of my foot and kind
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: of alleviate that pressure. This one, for whatever reason, it
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: was like the whole bottom of my foot kind of
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: like the middle area where if I was going to
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: push off, it was just so painful. And then through ESPN,
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: like it kept getting worse and worse, and every time
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: I had to go and change into different outfits, I'm
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: like in pain where I'm looking at Jack going I'm
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: in every commercial break, I'm like, dude, I'm hurting so bad.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: We get to a Friday, and I like, it's kind
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: of feeling better. But after all that walking, like the
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: next day on Saturday, I went to like get out
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: of bed and I like, literally it took me like
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: twenty five thirty minutes to get out of bed to
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: where like Nathan Worksman and Taylor are in the room
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: and I'm like, like, how can we help you? I
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: was like, please just leave me alone, Like I feel
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: so vulnerable right now in my underwear while you guys
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: are trying to get me out of bed, Like I'm
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: like crawling to the toilet just to take a morning piss.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: Like I would think to myself, like I would drink.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: I'll be on the couch drinking a bunch of water,
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: and I would think, I got I kind of have
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: to pee right now, and I would be so afraid
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: to stand back up and go to the bathroom. That
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: another forty five minutes would go back to where like
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: I'm rushing to the bathroom, but I'm in so much
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: pain that like I'm borderline pissing on myself. That's how
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: much pain on dog I would have.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: I would have.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: There was a couple of times I was laying there
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: and be like peeing myself right now over getting up
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: is kind of a wind. That's how painful this was, dude.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: And it's like it's not like, oh, I lay down
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: and put it up, it feels better. It's like I
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: any like there's no it's discomfort all day. And when
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: I stand up, like you would see the discolouration of
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: my foot to where my oldest wind she'd come up
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: to me, like Dad, why are your feet like complete
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: different colors? And like my left foot would be like
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: raised when I had both feet on the ground because
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: there was so much swelling on the bottom of my foot.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Dog.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: And it's like needles. It's like needles like sticking in
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: the joints of your feet. It's so painful.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Do you not have like one of those cards from
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: the acl where you put your knee on it and
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: it keeps your foot up.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: No, but I had some crutches in the basement that
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: tailor went and got. But a lot of times with
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: curses like you'll put the injured limb down and like assist,
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: I couldn't even put my foot on the ground. I
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: how to like hover. So I'm like doing like the
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: kid thing where you're like swinging yourself all around kids
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: toys everywhere, because I got my two kids and then
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: Nathan has three kids that are all under four, and
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: so there's toys everywhere. It was a minefield out there.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, to morrow, I.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: Just go to the man cave and just put my
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: foot up and be like, hey, you guys, enjoy the trip.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: I'll be in here just And then I find like
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: I'm a big like anti antibiotic guy, Like I don't
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: want to take antibiotic. I don't want to take like
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: talan or anything. I eventually gave in and I'm just
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: like I need it. So I'm like on a medrol
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: dose pack. Now I'm on a heuric acid. Yeah, I'm
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: on all of it, and it's gotten better to where
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: like literally, if it was Saturday, if I was feeling
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: the way I felt Saturday, I'd probably call on sick.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: I like would not be able to make it into work.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: That's how bad it was, like just sitting I have
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: to have it up. It was awful. It was awful, dude.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: Still it is pretty bad.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's honestly, it's crazy thinking like any injury that
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: feels debilitating just feels like this is the worst thing that.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: Possibly of the world. It's the end of the world.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Like even like say, I would you know, strain my
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: like ucl playing football and it's like in my elbow
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: and you like can't do a pull up, you like
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: can't really press against anything, and you just like, God,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: this is the worst thing of all time. And it's like, well,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I would I rather have this? Or would I rather
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: have a shoulder rather have a knee a foot or
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: growing And anytime you're going through any of the injuries,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: you're like, this is just the worst pain of it.
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, everything hurts, and it's like your foot
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: starts to hurt. But then once you're in pain for
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: a long time, like everything else just starts to hurt. Also,
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: like you start to feel like achy almost. It was
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: a terrible weekend. It was Awful's and ps Man still battling,
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: still battling right now? Am I actually in a sweat
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: thinking about it right now? No, It's like a once
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: a week thing for me. Right now. I got to
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: reevaluate everything, bro, I gotta I gotta to re look.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: At pretty good for the most part.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah dude, but my yeah, I'm pretty good at like
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: my diet exercise. This last month though, I've kind of
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: like let go of the rains and I've kind of
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: only getting like two workouts a week. I'll like, I'll
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: see something in the corner, you know, Clump's wife brings
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: in those pies and I'm like, I'm not gonna eat that.
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: But then I get done with the two gambling shows
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: and Connor Hunger right now, so you have a slice.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Everybody in the shops talking about it tas so yeah, how.
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: Good it is. And I'm just thinking, I got to
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: I got just I got to get powerful about saying
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: no to myself, Like this is an internal battle.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: We might need to make like a morning lift group
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: here at the shop. Get over it with the sword.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: Next maybe, man, But it's also like where are we
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: gonna shower?
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: The issue is, boys, The issue is is just holiday
• 24:52
  Speaker 9: seasons kicking up the colder weather, and now that we
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: full back, it gets darker sooner.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Charle chocolate chip cookies. Last night we had chili and
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: of course I had two peanut butter sandwiches with it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: But it's just it's that time of year. Left over candy,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Like I've just been going to like rouse little pumpkin
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: little bucket and just one at a time, just every hour.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: You just make your way over there and grab one.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: You know, it's a little mini Eat this right now,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: grab a second one, eat the first one real fast,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: then walk out of the laundry room with one, like
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I had to get a piece of candy thinking that
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: the first one didn't even count.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: And that's so real. Do you all do the switchwitch
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: with real What the switch witch?
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: The switch witch? I don't think so it's.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: A little it's a little put you guys on game.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: When you have kids, they have their they trigger treat
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: and it's like, hey, if you want to do a
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: switch witch, if you put out some candy, the switches
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: will come a night and maybe bring you something. So
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: it's kind of like you get like a little twenty
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: dollars toy or something like that, and you switch out
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: the candy. So they make the decision, I'd rather have
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: a toy than candy, and so you just kind of
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: like get rid of that candy can.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Because I'm thinking I got to stay on top. I
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: can't let me read all this can I'm gon this
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: case and dude, yeah, yeah.
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: With Wind, we have had like Tealan saw this thing
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: like if you don't, if you don't let your kids
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: have like sugar for the first three years of their life,
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: like once they have sugar their bodies that they'll know
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: it's bad for them. And so the first candy, the
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: first piece of sweet Win ever had was from Will
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: during thingsgiving. Gave her a piece of crumble cake or
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: something like that. Not a big deal, but she was
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: like two and a half at that time, where it's
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: like we've gone long enough without giving Win sweets. Her
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: body is probably going to be like anti sweets. There's
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: probably not another child on this earth that is obsessed
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: with sweets more than when this, it's like crack to her, dude, maybe,
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: but she's eight, bro, and I'm like, when you got
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: to make a decision because I know it's bad for me,
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: but I just can't stop that. We have like legitimate conversations.
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: Make honey, like, you eat this candy, like it's going
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: to be so bad for She's like, I know, but
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: I just can't stop. She's an addict. Win is an addict, bro.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: And it's like, dude, you got to stop eating this
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: candy because it's like she'll jump through hoops for a
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: piece of ice cream.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: She'll just hoops you as a young as a young lad,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: like that's just you chase them, sweet chase.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: It's like the high bro. And we saw that mostly
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: at Disney World, where it's like early morning to get
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: the Disney worlders. We only had Friday and Saturday coming
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: back Sunday, and we get up super early on Friday
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: and it's like, well, Taylor and I are having coffee.
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: We kind of realized, like you give them a couple
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: pieces of shirt kind of resets their little resets their
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: energy a little bit.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: So we're kind of.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: Keeping them alive with candy, which is like the weirdest
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: thing ever. But the backfire the next three four days, Dude,
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: it's like kids coming down like they're itching, they're moving around,
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: ed you sure you don't got one more skittle in there?
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: For me, it's like we got to keep you away
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: from the skittles.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: A little bit.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like the way to get this happened to
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: me for a little like when when I was a kid.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I was like kind of like Win, once you get that,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: you to that first dentist appointment and you got a
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: cavity or like you need a filling, Like the pain
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: from that will be like, Okay, I can't eat sweets
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: anymore because I do not want to go through that again.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: A couple of weeks, maybe it's easy back in that sound.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: You know, he's right, he's right, because we went in
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: and Win had a couple of feelings. She had to
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: get in and it was like I'm not having sweets.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing that.
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: And it was probably two weeks exactly, and Win's back
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: in there. Like my pantry, I try to keep as
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: clean as possible, but we'll get like these like healthy
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: like chocolate things, and Tale is all about like lesser
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: of two evils kind of thing, like she's gonna have
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: the things in there probably be like the healthiest version
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: of the bad thing. My kids will sniff that ship out, dude,
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: And you know, sometimes I'll wake up a little later
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: than they are and that fucking pantries taken down, stepstools
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: are put up. These kids are there. They're innovative.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: The way that I'll put it at the top shelf,
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: they're fucking swinging, catching it, getting back. It's just crazy
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: what they'll go, the lengths they'll go to the lengths.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I respect it. I did too, but I was.
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, bros tough, but yeah man.
• 29:09
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  Speaker 6: Episode, Spookober is over. Now the tickle turkey lives. The
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: tickle turkey lives.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, explain the tickle turky.
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: So tickle Turkey. I kind of got from one Jack
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: Conklin and the movie ThanksKilling. Do you guys have you
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: seen the movie Thanks Killing?
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Is that? What is that? The turkey?
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, it's a low budget cult film or whatever.
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: But the tickle Turkey essentially is this, I will go
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: and I'll tickle my kids and every time tackle my
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: kids to go. And that's a tickle turkey. Tickle turkey
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: lives from November first to Thanksgiving. That's in the tickle
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: turkeys a lot. That's the that's the things killing turkey.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: Funny ass movie, dude, the movie opens up with just
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: a nipple like it's the funniest, it's hilarious, but yeah,
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: the tickle Turkey's fun. He'll just kind of Jack Conklin
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: would do this after after Halloween. Jack would just go
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: in and like tickle other players at the locker room,
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: walk up behind him and tickle them. And then so
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: once I guess, I was like, bro, I gotta the
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: tickle Turkey's gotta be a thing in my household. So
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: now my kids every time around them, they're like they're
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: kind of doing this or like.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: So the tickle turkey is just always active.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: Tickle turkey is always active, can always get you. He's
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: not just gonna come out though when you want him to,
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: Like Willow will be like that, bring out the tickle turk.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: I hate n't do that, but once she turns her back, boom.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: Tickle turkey.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Is it like a thing though to where it's like
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: on uh, what's it called lepre con Day? Irish Day,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's Day, Saint Patrick's Day, to where if you're
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: wearing green you don't get pinched.
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: No, didn't ever text you from the turkey turkey? If
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: you yeah, if you wear. I guess if you wear
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: a turkey, if you're wearing a turkey hat or a
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: turkey shirt, I guess you can't get you. That's a
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: fun little that's a fun wrinkle. But the tickle Turkey's
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: out from November first to Thanksgiving. The day Thanksgiving, I
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: told well, was like the turkey dies, we eat the
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: tickle turkey, and then it's Christmas. Okay, So yeah, tickle
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: Turkey's out. Boys, and that's for everybody in the shop too.
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: You can get tickle. Just know your boys can get
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: God around here. Huh, what are you going to say?
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: JP?
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: No, I have a like hilariously embarrassing story about similar
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: to the tickle turkey. We were at this like party
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: at one of our friends houses and there was this
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: hallway that a bunch of the people were lined up in.
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: Anytime someone walked through the hallway, they're tickling them tickle
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: turkey basically. So I'm like, I want to be a
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: part of this. This would be funny. And I don't
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: know if they were just scheming on me the whole time.
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: And I'm like kind of first in the order. And
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: this girl comes walking through that we're friends with, and
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: I go tickle her, and nobody else goes and does it,
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: and I'm like, any of usn't ticklish. So I'm just like, yeah,
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: I know her, but not like that close. I'm like,
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry. I mean you're like, yeah, she's like what
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: are you doing? Like do you have a at the time,
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: Like you have a girlfriend. I'm like, yeah, you make
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: any noise when you're trying to tickle her. I mean
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: like I don't really know off the top of my head,
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: just a silence. But man, I was so embarrassed. I
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: was like, I gotta leave. This is a prank.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like what the fun? What are you doing?
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: How old are you when this happened?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: This is like three years ago? Middle school? It was
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: so bad. Dude, you go from the armpits, where'd you go?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Side crazy?
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: You gotta go for the side to discomfort of people
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: being scared of the little hips, right, get a little
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: movement in them. The tickle turkey man the fun. You
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: should bring him to the Compton household, all right, ruising
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: for some.
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: Damn ye'll think he can make me dress up his fear.
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll tell you. He was in a bad position
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: in our office. Is Derek his back to that hallway,
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: like that ticket turkey is getting his ass.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: He's got to wear a turkey.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: When we were when I first started working here, Clump
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: wanted me to have that desk spot and for that reason,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: like you were walking to a restaurant the old like
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: I have to have my back to the wall so
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: I can see everything. Yeah, that's how I felt about that.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: I was like people walking down the hall and I
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: can't see him.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: That would freak me out.
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: To this day if I go, if I'm at a restaurant,
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: I always prefer to have my back to the wall.
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: Like what am I going to do? Like some sort
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: of Seal Team six guy, Like I'm gonna protect everybody
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: in here. I'm just gonna getting got You know, you're
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: back to the rest of the Crowd's terrifying. Yeah, I
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: don't know how Derek gets any work done in the shop.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's he's yeah, yeah, I never know what's
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: going on. Are your Christmas decorations up yet?
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: You know they are the force?
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I not.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: Christmas decorations are like the end, like Spootobra is already
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: down in my household, like all the decorations, Like we
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: had a crew of people come in November one. I'm
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: laying there on the couch, leg up, dude, just everybody,
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: ten fifteen guys just carrying shit. I'm looking at him like, please,
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: just don't even fucking make eye contact me in this
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: vulnerable state. But all this stuff is that lights are
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: up now. And I know, bro, I know this is
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: like a disgusting look to you guys, but I've just
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: lost that battle of my household. I don't I don't
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: wear the pants like Thanksgiving has already happened in Canada.
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: Talent's beating me down, like have it, take it. But yeah,
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: it's a winter wonderland. You want to drive past my house,
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: It's absolutely beautiful.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: The upside of it, like if I had an optimistic
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: outside of like disgust that your Christmas decorations are already up,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: it's just that you have the theme, like you have
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: the vibe that you just yearned for when Christmas time
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: dos come? Or is it that it's skin dark early
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: you got you know, lights are on living room. Just
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: the ambiance of Christmas is just so pure and good.
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: It definitely has a good because like the front side
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: of our house is all like white lights and then
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: the backs of our house is more colorful nineties vibe,
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: and outside of my master bedroom, like there's like a
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: bunch of little trees that are all like in colored lights,
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: And it does give you that regardless of it being
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: November third, when it's like you look at it and
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: you're like, yeah, it does give you that cozy feeling.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if if like if I'm you and I
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: was battling and you're like trying to come to a
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: middle ground, it's we can do the interior of the house,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: but the Christmas lights on the outside don't go up
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: until after Thanksgiving type of vibe. Because again it's like
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: you at least you're in the vibe of a feeling nice,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: all warm and cozy with some lights and some decorations around.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: To be fair to the public, like just an asen nine.
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but to be fair to tailing having that feeling,
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: like what other feeling you need to get between November
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: one and and Thanksgiving, Like it's kind of like a
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: dead spot because Thanksgiving is very much like a long
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: weekend type of vibe as opposed to like a cell
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: lebrate holiday throughout it like a whole month period, So
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: there is a level of like kind of cheating the
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: vibe a little bit for an extra long time because
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: it's not Christmas. Vibe is not one that kind of
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: dies off as you get farther and farther down. It
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: like you're kind of enjoying it more and more and
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: more as you kind of get up to Christmas. So
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: it's kind of nice. I've I've I've been to the
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: knee and I've kind of like it can't beat them,
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: joined them type of vibes. Yeah, yeah, don't know, don't
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: you do that?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: You can't beat the Canadians, join them? That's what you
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: kind of.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: You saw what happened this past weekend at the Canadians Dodgers.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: Dodgers beat the the Boo Jays, and I Quinn was
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: texting me like, hey, we own hockey, you're about to
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: own baseball as well. It's a totally different game like MLB.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: You have a couple of Canadian teams all good, but
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: that was nice for the Dodgers to take that one.
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: So I have that over my wife's family. It's become
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: a complete rivalry ever since the Four Nations tournament. Yeah,
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: where it's like they kind of they've been talking crazy
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: to me ever since that Four Nations game, and it's
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: it's nice to have one we go. I don't only
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: view this as one, but they kind of do. So
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: it's like, yeah, we got you guys.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: See that is a fun that's a fun fam Like
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: for me, it's like I just got to wait and
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: see if pack y'all fights again. Yeah, it's not a
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: whole lot, but there is this tennis there's this tennis player. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: there is this tennis player.
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah we need uh but have you did you guys
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: watch that game? Game seven? Incredible? Like I was, I
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: had zero players to even watch that game. And then Nathan,
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: you know, he's a big baseball guy. I grew up
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: in l A. He's a Dodgers fan. But he's he's
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: the worst type of fan with the game with him
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: last year, it was his idea to leave. He's the
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: worst type of things.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Taylor was beating him up on the plane because he
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: flew back with us from New York when we came
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: from ESPN, because I was kind of asking him for
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I thought he was like a Michigan
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: State fan or we're talking for I don't watch any fun.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: He's like I am all baseball. So he was fired
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: up for the World Series, but then Taylor was beating
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: him up. He's like, you got me killed for leaving
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that world here his game last.
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: Year, because to me, it was like I checked the
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: box of being there. But I've never been, like since
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: I've been twelve years, I've never been like a base
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna watch baseball, but like going to a first
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: World Series game, this is awesome and it's so fitting
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: that Nathan's like, you're tired, right. I'm like I'm good.
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: He's like, you're pretty tired. We should go. It's like
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: all right, let's yeah, I'll go. And as soon as
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: we leave, like fireworks take off in the entire game.
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: That's when Freddie Freeman had to walk off Grand Slam.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: So we get to this year, Dodgers are back in it.
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: That is Nathan Worksman's team, like he grew up going
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: to Dodgers games to have a whole They go to
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: this one spot that all Dodgers fans go to. They
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: get these like Philly cheese take type of sandwiches. I
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: did the whole experience. He's looking at me saying, I
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: hope Toronto wins I'm like, Bro, you grew up a
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: Dodgers fan. What are you talking about. He's like, well,
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: my team already won. It wouldn't be as fun for
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: us to get another One'm like, no, like you want
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: your team to win another one because how cool wuld
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: be that three? Pet Like, that's what it's about. It's
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: like you just want you just want to win them all.
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: And he was anti that anti and bro so he
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: was rooting for the Blue Jays. He's yeah, he's the
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: weirdest fan ever. And we we were watching the game
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: and it's the bottom of the ninth whatever, the Dodgers
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: score run to take it into extra innings. I kept
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: calling it over time. He was laughing at me about that.
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: He gets up, He's like, I had early flight tomorrow.
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna leave. I'm like, game seven, you're
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: a baseball fan, You're a team who you're rooting against.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: Just caused the game to go into extra innings and
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: you're gonna go to bed. And he's like yes, he
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: left and bote that that game was incredible? Was it Yamamoto?
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Who's the guy Yoshiniba Yamamoto?
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: Okay, that guy, dude, game six. This Yoshinido Mama Modo guy,
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: pitches ninety two pitches and plays an incredible game. They're
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: in Game seven and it's starting to get in this
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: like are they are the are the Toronto Blue Jay
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: is gonna run away with it? Or the Dodgers is
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: gonna come back? They get Yama Moto, who's just thrown
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: ninety two pitches the day prior, to come back in
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: and finish the game and pitches three innings and it
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: was incredible. Bro guys like five to eleven throwing like
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: after doing all those pitches, still throwing like ninety seven
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: ninety eight, like just watching the intricacies of like he's
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: down in the pitch count. Then he's getting guys to
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: chase wide, he's jamming guys in. It's like one of
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: the most fun games ever. And then this Rojas was
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: a Miguel Rojas in the ninth of the Yeah, the
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: ninth inning, top of the ninth, top of the ninth inning.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: They're down one, no one's on base, Miguel Ross has
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: not had a hit, and all of the World Series
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: hits a home run and they're now tied up. Yamamoto
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: comes in three up, three down, gets him off. We're
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: now an extra innings, and then I think Yamamoto had
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: all had the Blue Jays had three guys on base
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: correct every first, second, and third, and they go broken
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: back because it comes off and goes back on. And
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: then Mookie Bets from shortstop hits it, gets a ground ball,
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: steps on second, wins the game by having a double play.
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: Like it was like probably the only time as I've
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: been like twelve years old, I'm watching a baseball game
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: like this, shit is unbelievable.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: It was a sick game. But the Dodgers winning is
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: awful for baseball because.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: Why is that because the super rich franchise.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the biggest thing that's been going the highest paid. Yeah,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: so show hey, like show Hay's contract alone is like
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: more than the entire Pittsburgh Pirates like payroll. Like, so
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: it's these teams, like the Dodgers can just afford to
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: pay all of this money to all of these players,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: but it's like not even fair, Like the Pirates will
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: never win a World Series. All of these lower tier
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: teams will never win a World Series because they can't
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: afford all of these players. Like that's why you see
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: all of these really really good guys going to the Yankees,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: going to the Dodgers, going to the Mets because they
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: can afford to like pay them and like get give
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: them all this money.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: There's no cap, right, there's.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: No cap, So that's what But like it's bad for
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: baseball in the sense of like this just continues to happen,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: but it's good for baseball in the sense of, Okay,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: this is proven, like that we may need a salary cap,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: but it's insane because Bryce Harper or like earlier in
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: the season there was I saw that, Yeah, there was
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: a meeting about, hey, we're gonna have a salary cap,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: and Bryce Harper went up and it was like, if
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: you're here to talk about a salary cap, get the
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: fuck out of here, because we do not we do
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: not want that. But it's like insane because it's just
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: imagine like the the biggest market teams in the NFL
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: always win, and like the Titans, they're the smallest media market,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: have no chance to win whatsoever.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Is there for any baseball guys, Chef, you seem like
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: you're itching again in this conversation, Uh, for the baseball guys,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Is there a leverage play for the league to make
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: it a salary cap because it's it just sounds like
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: they just don't have They wouldn't have the leverage if.
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: You're if you're a player, you don't want a salary
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: if you're yeah, if you're If.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: We're speaking for like, if this is going down in
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: the NFL, you'd want the biggest ours to be saying
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: the same thing, Bryce Harper.
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you want this conversation taking place in the NFL
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: where it was Kirk Cousins getting a guaranteed contract.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Right, you want your superstar guys like throwing their weight
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: around to get basically no salary cap. You just get
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: paid as much as you possibly can.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's gonna look it's looking like that the
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: MLB and the Players Association could possibly go into lockout
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: and then it becomes basically the MLB will have a
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: lot of more leverage going. Hey, the Dodgers are.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Is that the man? Right there? A great guy to
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: come in on the conversation, what's up?
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: What's up?
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Felas Before we get into Tony Vtello, we gotta finish
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: off the episode. There is a new Buffalo ranch, Shaws,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: that has arrived at McDonald's McDonald's is now a sponsor
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: a bustle with the Boys Boys massive brand. And and
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: what was that? Did we hear a little? Did somebody too?
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: That must have been yeah, the Mickey D's. There's a
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: new buffalo ran sauce that has arrived at McDonald's and
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: it pairs perfectly with your snack wrap of mccrispy sandwich
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: or those new mccrispy strips. I will let sure them
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: speak to that in a second. It's got the tangy
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: zang of buffalo with the creamy cool of mild ranch.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: It's mild and wild at the same time. It's a
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: sauce that balances itself and compliments our crispy chicken. Uh Fellas, Look,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: the snack wrap jumps out at me. The McChicken or
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: the mccrispy chicken sandwich jumps out at me. Bangs in
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: this buffalo, the zesty, zangy, tangy buffalo sauce. Yeah, mild
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: and wild.
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you what I used to love to do
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: as a kid, and I still continue to love to
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: do now, is going to that little the regular cheeseburgers,
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: the two for nine to nine cents deal that it
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: used to be like the two cheeseburgers. I would get
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: max sauce on those things. This new little sauce we
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: got talking about it, I think I'm gonna find myself
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: in a drive through real soon getting those two cheeseburgers.
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: But go and put that zesty buffalo ranch on there.
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, you were just talking about the chicken strips
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: of McDonald's. I have yet to have the chicken strips.
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: I'm a big chicken Nuggies guys. I've always want to
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: make chicken nuggies, right, that's the staple. But these new
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: mac crispies they are really really good. I usually dip
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: them in honey mustard. I have yet to try this
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: new sauce. I know what I'm having for lunch.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Two day big sauce guys. Two day, big sauce guys
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: on the bus and a photo too. Yeah and there,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: shirm dog. There's a new sauce in town at McDonald's,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: the tangy, creamy buffalo ranch. Order now. And there is
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: this final bite segment that we're gonna dive into of
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: which something that we want people to be thinking about
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: as they're dipping their sauce and eating whatever little combination
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have with this buffalo tangy tangy, creamy buffalo rance.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Oh maybe a final take, maybe a take a thought,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: something we want people to be thinking about going into
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: this football weekend.
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: I like that. Do you mind if I go first?
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Go ahead?
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: Something off the top of my head right now that
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: we kind of talked about in the reaction show, I'm
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: gonna bring it over to the bus and intro of
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: the show is, let's talk about the NFC East for
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: a second. It's done. It's over. We might be in November,
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: but as far as I'm concerned, the Philadelphia Eagles are taking
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: that thing they run with it, it's over for the
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: rest of that whole entire division because they're just falling back,
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: back and back. So if we want to look at
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: playoff implications, I'm already good to go in. Not just
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: Pencil'm gonna pen in the Philadelphia Eagles in two. So
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: theF is you.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Want Dallas fans at tune in, Washington fans at tune in,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: and Giants fans at tune in to be sad dipping
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: their mccrispy streets in this Buffalo tanky sauce right thinking
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: that this season is over for us.
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: I know what the old Golden Arches has provided to
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: this beautiful country for many, many years. And if you
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: can hear one thing, it's broken hearts and the broken
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: hearts of the Commanders, the Cowboys, and the Giants. Listen, Giants,
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: I think you've got nothing to be upset about. Like
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: you lost cam Skataboo, but Jackson Dart quarterback of the future,
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: day ball saved his job. Cowboys. Yeah, I can see
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: you guys getting sad because you have a per Bowl
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: caliber offense, but your defense is poop poo magoo. Now
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: you look over at the Washington Commanders and you just
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: dislocated your best court of your quarterback's elbow when you're
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: down thirty eight to seven. Those who have a lot
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: to be sad about. The Giants, you can go over,
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: hit that drive through, get that zesty Buffalo ranch, and
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: you're gonna feel all right about having the McChicken strips
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: whatre they called mccrispy strips.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: And the Eagles too.
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: Grease the Poles, grease me up, send me to mcde's.
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Get you some of the
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: get you a little happy meal. You know what I'm saying.
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: I like it. I having fun with it. And you
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: know I was I was dating the Cowboys for a men.
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: I was in love with the Cowboys for a hot second.
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: But that flame burned bright. Now I'm kind of thinking
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: to myself, boys, it's time to back up. We got
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: other toxic relationship and just realize the Eagles are gonna
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: keep flying.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: This new buffalo ranch that people are going to be
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: dipping into this week. I want Husker fans to think
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: about this. TJ. Latif Latif over three hundred all purpose,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: over three hundred yards through the air, combined through the
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: air and on the ground the.
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: Air combined through the air.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, TJ. Latiff going out to U c L a
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: night game gonna be tough getting up after this emotional
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: loss to the USC Trojans. As you were in sad
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Boys season thinking about what's t J. Latif gonna do
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: this weekend. I'm telling you right now it's over three
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: hundred yards.
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: It's so funny you say that, because do you know
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: what Latif is French for buffalo sauce, zesty buffalo ranch.
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: That is actually what it's French for yeah, I think
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: google that real quick, make sure, but I'm I I
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: took French in high school.
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah it's yeah, Buffalo rancho, creamy.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Buffalo ranch, Lati latif and when he does, ninety three
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: is alive and well, honey, nine and three has never died.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: No fibula is gonna stop nine and three and nebrassic
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: corn Hoskers.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: That's mine. Do you have, gentlemen, do you have any
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: back there? To find a bite going into the weekend.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: As you're dipping into that creamy buffalo ranch sauce, just
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: think to yourself, real quick, could forty year old Joe
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Flacco win the MVP VP? Just think about it as
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: you're tasting that sauce eating them at Crispy's. Could he think?
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Could he win it? Something to think about being the conversation.
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: Being the conversation, Have a conversation, Ignore everything else that's
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: happening in the NFL world, then just focus on Flacco.
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: Joe cool seven last two games, Joe Flacco.
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: Mine is separate of football? Is that against the rules?
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: It feels like it is, but go ahead.
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: Insulated denim jackets are back. That's what the people are saying.
• 51:38
  Speaker 8: Really and and just as you're dipping, does somebody might.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Have insulated what are they insulated?
• 51:43
  Speaker 8: What denim jacket?
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Insulated denim jacket on right now? Dipping?
• 51:47
  Speaker 8: Oh? Come on, and just think about it as you're dipping,
• 51:51
  Speaker 8: like there's we're not wearing enough denim right now. Denim's
• 51:55
  Speaker 8: like I think it's back.
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: I don't have any denim on right now. That's how
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: kind of naked I feel after you talking about that.
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: If there's an individual out there that is listening to this,
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: thinking I'm dipping in denhim right now, please tag us
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: in a photo. Tag us in a photos. We love
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: to see you dipping in denim. Yeah, you know what,
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: that's my favorite take. That is my favorite take. And
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: I think we need as Bustle with the Boys Mighty
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: to go to a mcdizzels set the tone for a
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: dipping in denim hashtag dipping in denim. See what we
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: can do?
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Will you? Or just go you just we get a
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: photo together and we just drop at no caption and
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: the Tier one sikos No. They let the world know
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: that we're doing what denim denim and dipping.
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: Enough time, setting enough times we need to remember, I'll
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: do dipping and denim.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: By the way, this new buffalo sauce available for a
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: limited time at participating McDonald's while supplies.
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: Are you serious?
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think it's going to be a hit.
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Well, this is a sauce country.
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: Think of all the things that mcdizzel's has done back
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: in the day that has been hit over hit like
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: nostal But the McRib the mcflurry.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: The smell of hot breakfast, oh, pancakes.
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: You open that thing up, dude, It's like, what this
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: is a fast food place.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: It's fine dining out here, man, It's incredible syrup sauce.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Let me mcgriddles talk to you about mcgriddell.
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: Lemon know, but the mcgriddle.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I would have this, uh. It was basically a plus
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: hour in high school as a senior to where a
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: plus you could if you were gifted this luxury you
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: could go off campus and go to. For me, it
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: was middle school. I would go in shadow my eighth
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: grade football coach and his like health p class. I
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: don't even know because I never went to it. He
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: would just give me the sign, he give me what
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I needed, and me and a couple of my boys,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: we'd rip over to McDonald's and it'd be like be
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: our breakfast every morning. Second hour we'd pull in and
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: we talk about this cashier behind the register as he's
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: like rivals recruit, like he's like a five star. He
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: understood the game and the operation of McDonald's. We thought
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: he should own one one day because of how much
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: work this guy put in. But we get the uh,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: the little breakfast burritos, the little.
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: Two for five, little chunks of sausage in there.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: We'd get the meal with the mcgriddle and I would
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: unpack that thing like there's a like I was in
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: the dark and the candle was next to my nightstand
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: and I would be unpacking this mcgriddle. I pick it up.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: We'd have this four play we'd do with it. I'd
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: smell it. I just I'd take the entire environment in
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: before I took a bout of the mcgriddle and taking
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: them buy that mcgriddle. I don't know if you can
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: hear my boys right now, but my mother's watering.
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: And Fawcet talking to a Fawcet right now.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: We would throw roast sparks in and just enjoy a
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: good No. I was a junior senior in high school.
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: Okay, okay, I thought you said something about middle school earlier.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: That was my football coach, and we'd enjoy every day.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Second hour, it'd be where are we going? We know
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: we're going. That's a stupid questions throw up? What is it?
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Stone sour? Looking at you through the glass. I'm looking
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: at you through the glass. I don't know how much
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: time has passed. Oh god, it feels like forever. No
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: one never tells you that forever feels like home. Sitting
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: alone inside you're how do you feel? How do you
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: do so much? The question?
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, did I know that one?
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Actually?
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: Do you know that one? I just don't know that one.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Throw that tune on or to be hindered. Touched like
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: an angel, Touch like an angel, kiss like an angel,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: lips of an angel.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: Hey you, why are you calling me so late?
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to talk right now. Those would
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: be the bangers. You guys just took me back to
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: a moment.
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: Girls in sometimes I wish you was you. Yes, man,
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: never really moved on.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: That was good. That was really good.
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: You want to hear saying my name is sounds so sweet?
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: People tuned in, they're like, God, we can't wait to
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: listen to Tony Vtello.
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but then I know they start dipping in down them.
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: That's what they didn't know about, dude. Can I just
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: give you I know, we'll just told a cute little story.
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: Can I just give you mine real quick? Young three
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: four year old one, all right, just freshly into Scottsdale, Arizona.
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: My father he worked late hours, He worked, he worked
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: early mornings as well. But every Saturday, your young till
• 56:40
  Speaker 6: of one would get up at the crack ass of
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: dawn around five thirty six am, and right around the
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: corner from our house was what i'm mcdiesels. And my
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: dad would take me across the one on one Papa
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: sitting at mcdizzels. Give me a couple of them pancakes,
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: couple of them breakfast briers. I don't evenlieve the mgriddle
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: wasn't even a thing at this time, all right, we're
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: talking about nineties babies. And I would sit there and
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: my dad would read the morning newspaper with a McDonald's
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: orange juice while I ripped apart that ballpet alone. Because
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: ain't no kid got the luxury I did on a
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: Saturday Morning that my father gave to me when I
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: was just a young buck man. So shout out mcdee's
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: keeping Families Together since ninety three.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Keeping families together since ninety three. Before we do get
• 57:22
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  Speaker 1: Man.
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: This is a beautiful time.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, and you'll see it at the top of this
• 58:26
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• 58:30
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• 58:42
  Speaker 6: The first ever one. We should have signed it for him.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we should have as his gift to go to
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: San Francisco. We will love him forever, we will miss
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: him forever. This was an incredible interview. I think you're
• 58:50
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• 58:53
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• 58:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, just remember this boys you go into this episode.
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: The Giants are gonna be contenders this year, San Francisco Giants.
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: The Eagles are going to win the NFC East, and
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: by god, we're dipping in denim. That's what we're doing
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  Speaker 6: We were just talking baseball, Yeah, just talking about the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 5: Wild Game seven, Wild World Series.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and then we're oh, yeah, toss that over here.
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  Speaker 5: The first one. I still want to represent. Got a
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  Speaker 5: lot of blood, sweat and tears with that recruiting class.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: That's uh, that's there now and I guess coming in too.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: God, So on this conversation, what were you going to ask.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: What was the consensus on those?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm not a massive like baseball guy, like
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I'll watch the Cardinals if they go to the playoffs
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: and stuff and get fired up with everybody else. But
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: they're sitting there breaking down the World Series game. I
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: caught until they went the extra innings and then that's
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: when I went home because Nebraska just lost the USC
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: So I need to go home and go to bed
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: because I was miserable. But Mitch is saying, like l
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: A winning is bad for baseball because of how much
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: money that they have to afford the team.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's great to have you put
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: that mic a little closer. Sorry, you just get thrown
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: in the fire right there.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: And right I got gifts. Anything I say about the
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: Dodgers is certainly going to be of interest in San Francisco.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: But no, this is a pretty bad ass setup. I
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: appreciate you all having me. And I think, you know,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: whether it was the Yankees back in the day with
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: baseball or it's achieved some football, I think it's good
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: for sports in general and the sport that's in specific
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: to have kind of a target or a standard that's set.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: And it's college now, too, like it or not. Money talks,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: and it's going to be a big part of it.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: But you can't just buy your way to a championship.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: There's still got to be the right people in place,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: and then eventually to those people gotta, you know, make
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: the place. And I'm sure you guys were diagnosing that game.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: There were a million different plays that could have went
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: one way or the other. And uh and then you
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: get stories too of people rising up one one pitch
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: it could have went the other way. And now you
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: got the Blue Jays is you know, the Brewers were
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: kind of trying to do this, the little engine that could.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: And obviously those those teams got stud players too. But
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: it's fun to cheer for the underdog, and then it's
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: also it's good to have that you know, enemy number
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: one or you know Americans, Uh, I think are hard
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: workers overall, but it's a lot easier to it's a
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: little lazy and a lot easier to cheer for who
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: the best is. Yeah, you know, so there's always going
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: to be people that pick a side. I think, you
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: know it. I'm not I'm not at Tennessee anymore, so
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: I don't say it arrogantly, but our twenty two baseball
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: team was one that a lot of people just picked
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: a side. They either hated them or they liked them.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: And I think overall it was good for college baseball.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Because you're getting to join up with who is the
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: psycho that has other celebrations.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: Drew Gilbert, who, Yeah, psycho loves being choked from the.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: That could be diagnosed a lot of different ways.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's gonna be a therapist in the back end
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: of that career at some point. Humping the slapping the side.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: Some dudes are just walking up to him joking. He's
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: just love it, like this is the type of cat
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: you want around.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt. It'll be a good bridge for me.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: Obviously I'll be learning a lot on the fly, But
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: to have someone like that in your clubhouse, no matter
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: where you're at you constantly have energy, and our sport
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: has a bigger sample size than any other, so it's
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: very repetitive. And if it's boring or there's lack of personality,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: it's not going to be fun to come to work
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: come August or later in the season.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Is that something too, Like when you were with Tennessee,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: it's like you guys did have kind of this bad
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: boy image. But just allowing your players to like be themselves,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: to kind of keep that energy during all those monotonous, repetitive.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: Days, I think so. I mean, I think, now you've.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Got one hundred and sixty two games, you gotta do it.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be different, that's for sure. And during the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: press conference, the first question out of the shoot was
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: reminding me that I not only not in the big
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: leagues as a player, wasn't even close, but haven't been
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: in pro ball. So I don't know what I don't know,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: But yeah, every day for us in the fall and
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: in the spring in college was a new day, and
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: you try and some are better or more entertaining than others,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: but it's a blank slate and you try and make
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: it something fun and something memorable, and you know there's
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: nothing more fun and memorable than winning.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, how did the conversation? How did this job even happen?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: Because you're this is the first head coach of a
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: college football team, a college football college baseball team to
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: become a manager at MLB team?
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: Is that?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: Am I crrect in saying that?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: And so how did this conversation start? Your agent call?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: You say, hey, by the way, the Giants are looking
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: at you, like, explain to me the process.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a little bit. It was organic, and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: if you really reflect on it was kind of drawn
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: out because the conversations have always gone on with college
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: coaches and big league teams, especially in the summer. And
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: you know, I remember taking a call on our guy,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: Gavin Keelan. He was a second basement shortstop for us.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: The Giants took him first overall, one of our best
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: players this last year. So there was a lot of
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: conversations not just about him, but like, what's going on
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: with our program? How do you guys like to do things?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: Just idea sharing? And then with Drew Gilbert also came
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: over Blake Tidwell, one of our pitchers. They were both
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: involved in that trade. So, hey, what can you tell
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: us about these guys, and so with those conversations, a
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: little bit of a co op started there. And then
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't know who gets full credit. I mean,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: Zach the jam buster is obviously you know, in charge
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: as well. Somewhere along the line, someone floated the idea
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: of basically trying something new, and San Francisco is about
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: as innovative. I mean there's AI stuff everywhere, buildings and
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 5: corporations and so just an innovative idea, and I feel
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: blessed to be the guy, but I'm also the guinea pig.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: We'll see how it goes.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's gonna be hard to just hammer your ego,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: but what do you think it was for San Francisco?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: And the things that you're doing are the things that
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: they were hearing that dove deeper into getting you to
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: San Francisco.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: I think, And it's easy to be humble because I
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: think it was more the concept. And so I was
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: a guy who maybe fit that profile. So we're going
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: through that now with trying to hire a coaching staff.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: Is what's the profile we want and then pick out
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: of a group of guys that maybe fits that profile.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: And it was it was something new. Pat Murphy has
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: been looked at. I think, I mean, I don't get
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: on social media a lot, but Pat Murphy is a
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: former college coach at Notre Dame at Arizona State, and
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: now he leads the Brewers to, if I'm not mistaken,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: the best record in MLB baseball this year, and he's
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: kind of got that more. I don't want to say
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: it's not really about college versus pro ball, but just
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: a little more of the old school coach mentality when
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: coaching his team. You know, when we grew up, like
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: you knew Bobby Bobby Cox, and I could get Whitey
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: Herzog where I grew up in Saint Louis, Like he
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: was a manager that everybody knew and there was a
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: certain approach to it where his teams all kind of
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: have the same culture. And I think baseball swinging back
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: a little bit towards that coach deal as opposed to
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: the analytic guy in the office.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: This, Yeah, is it like that old school? Is it
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: like old school too? Kind of mix with the younger,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: like a younger swag, you know what I mean, Like
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: I would say, you're like a young You're like a
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: young Thundercat kind of coming up into this situation.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: I think energy. I think when you're around guys like
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: Drew and then our fan base, like a lot of
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: times are the fans at Tennessee are about as good
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: as it gets, and so when they come up with
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: an idea, whether it was yours or not, you're kind
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: of if you're wearing orange, you're involved in it. So
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: I think people think I got a lot more swagger
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: or confidence than I truly do. I mean, if I
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: was more confident, I would have been a better fricking player,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: but I was, But I'm I'm fortunate to be in
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: the dugout with guys like that, and so I don't
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: know that it's more swagger. I think naturally what I
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: do have is energy. Like at the field, it just is,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: it's a vibe, it's fun to be there, and uh
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: so I think it's more of an energy thing. And again,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: winning will bring about swagger more than anything, so hopefully
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: that's the case. There's there's some good players on the roster,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: but I think energy is a part of it.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just a Missouri boy doing it, big man doing it.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: How much time have you spent in San Francisco.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: So far, it was really three days with the press
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: conference and and again trying to hire some staff and
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: things like that. But when I was younger, I played
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: college ball in a summer league out in Salinas, California.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: Small town, great people, just south of San Jose. And
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: a guy that played for my dad, Bill Miller. If
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: you've watched uh the specials on the Red Sox coming
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: back from three to zero against the Yankees, he's actually
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: the guy that gets a hit off Mariano Rivera to
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: start that the first comeback game and then ultimately they win.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: Bill was with the Giants, so we'd go watch and play,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: get free tickets, and you're in what I thought was
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: the coolest park I'd ever been in, and you get
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: to explore the city. And fortunately Twitter didn't exist then
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: and I didn't have a job, so it's a little bit,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: a little bit more free. Reign that's a little bit
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: more free. Yeah, it's a pretty cool area.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: So now what's process for you? You are you selling?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: Are you keeping a place here in Nashville?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: Definitely in Nashville, for sure. This place is phenomenal, whether
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: it's you know, just running into you guys, like at
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: the restaurant or the grocery store. I'm sure you get
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: bothered everywhere, so sorry if I bother you guys too,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: but run into you guys. The connection with country music
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: some friends I've formed. You're in the middle of the country,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: so both coasts are kind of accessible. This is just
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: a phenomenal place. So yeah, definitely looking forward to sticking
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: to a place here and probably even the fans were
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: awesome to me at the football game Saturday, So as
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: long as that continues, I'd like to still be in
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: Knoxville a little bit. I mean, like I said, I
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: mean the other coaches had a lot to do with it,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: but for the next three or four years, I'm going
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: to be pretty closely tied to some of those players.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What are the biggest differences in being like the
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: head coach of a college baseball team and then being
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: a manager in the MLB.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: I think just that recruiting you can have a voice,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: maybe with trades or free agency, and I think that's,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: you know, something that pro players look at as what
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: park do I want to play in, what city I
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: want to live in, what coach So it's not like
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: recruiting completely goes away, but you're not in charge of
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: your roster anymore, which hell, free up some more time
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: to go to UFC or you know, you know whatever
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: it might be. Maybe, but then to the amount of
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: sample size. And then the kids you work with in
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: college are so impressionable they'll latch onto about anything you'll
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: give them. And I haven't again what, I don't know,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: what I don't know, but I assume a thirty five
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: year old that's in the big leagues for a while,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: he's he's pretty much got his system figured out, and
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: so it'll be a little bit different of a co
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: Oper relationship there.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: With when you got the news that you're going to
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: be the next Giants manager, I'm gonna have a hard
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: time not saying head coach. How do you tell the team,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: the Tennessee team.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, my my non friends or non baseball friends
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: are all like manager, Like, are you managing the title manager? Skipper?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: You know, our pitching coach, Frank Anderson wud always call
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: me skipper, And it's kind of I don't know, I
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: kind of like that concept. So whatever it is, you're
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: serving that role of writing out the lineup, you know,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: So it's interesting I get with recruiting, you have to
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: respond to every email and every text possible. But I
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: had to give up on my phone, so I apologize
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: to everybody. And one of the first texts was nice
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: but also sarcastic. I think from you. It was basically
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: like I miss you and love you or something I
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: don't mean to put words.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: I think I said i'll miss you. I sent you
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: when it was starting to be like, hey, they're closing
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: in on a deal. Yeah, I sent him the link
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: from Twitter and just put I'll miss you forever.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So sorry, it was a little aggressive,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: But I bring that up just because how this thing
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: broke was very unconventional, and it's the day and age
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: we live in. We were not we were not even
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: at a point where I was going to make a decision,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: and this news broke on a football Saturday in the
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: middle of one of our scrimmages that I was going
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: to do this, and our assistants were like, you know,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: I had kind of kept any of the conversations out
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: of the locker room because it can only be a distraction,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: especially with recruiting, and now if it was going to
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: get to a point where this is something I really
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: got to decide on I was gonna involve everybody. Well
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: that all got skipped over by a tweet or what again.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: I'm not on there, but I think, god, you know
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: Ken Rosenthal or somebody. And I've had a couple of
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: people apologize to me like, hey, I just got a
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: job to do. They get word that talks are at
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: least serious, and now all of a sudden, it's like
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: you're doing it. And so I got these texts on Saturday,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: like I don't know if it's true or good luck,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: and I'm like I don't even know how to respond.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: So that the initial reaction is you're you're probably pissed off.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah I was, so I was mine.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking like if if this, if this profile is
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: posting about it, it seems like this is gonna happen.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: First manager, it's like congratulates like, hey, I'm gonna miss
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: you forever. But now that makes sense. On the no response,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: you're probably like, who in the fuck is leaking this stuff?
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: Well, I was trying to watch Alabama Tennessee and I'd
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: thought about going to the game with a donor after
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: our scrimmage, and when this popped, is like, well, I'm
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: not going anywhere, And I just sat and was watching
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: the game and it's on the ticker, and I even
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: kind of quit watching the game a little bit to
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: be honest with you, and I just for the night
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: kind of shut it down. And then the next day
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: some things picked up. Ironically, it ended up being instead
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: of one conversation with the team and being like this
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: sucks and crying and everything, it was a three parter
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: and it gave those guys time to share their thoughts
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: on it a little bit with me, including our coaching staff,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: And I mean, this is a tough setting to break
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: down and cry, so I won't do it.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Here, but.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: All emotions are welcome here, like I will forever be
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: grateful the way those kids texted me, talked to me
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: in person, and then the way the coaches basically said
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: do what you gotta do, and that really opened up
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: the freedom to think about it selfishly, just like what
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: do I want to do as opposed to how is
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: this going to impact other people?
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so wait on tears.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: Trying to go Barbara Walters, it.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Is very hard. I'm assuming being in your spot, even
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: as a player, Like if I'm a player on your team,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: and I absolutely love you. It's like when coach Eckler
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: left Nebraska, he recruited me there yea, and whenever he
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: left to go be like a co defensive coordinator or
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: something in Indiana. And he's kind of telling the linebacker
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: room after practice around like the thirty yard line, like
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: we're all breaking down because you're like, fuck man, a
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: part of you comes to a place for a staff
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: or for a guy, and you're galvanizing around this this roster.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: So I can only assume how hard that was on
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: trying to be like you don't feel like you have
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: the freedom to think selfishly. You have so many people involved,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: some of them aren't tipped off. Now they're finding out
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: on the internet. How do I even approach this conversation
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: because I know there's gonna be broken hearts. It's broke.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're broken heart of it.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: It's just it's tough, and you're sitting in a situation
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: where you haven't made the decision yet and it seems
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 6: like the decision has been made for you, yeah, publicly,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: and now you have to go put out what you're
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 6: assuming is a bunch of fires and you're met with
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: like it seems like empathy and love.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it affected things greatly, and at the end
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: of the day, it was a difficult decision. And if
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: you know, props to any college coach out there. Coach
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: Eckler's a stud and back at Nebraska now. But when
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: you switch in college, you don't get to breathe for
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: a year minimum, just because of the nature of the turnover.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: And now I'm in this weird stage where it's not
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: like we're hiring a staff. There's work to be done,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: press conference, all that, but it's not that drinking from
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: a fire hose that you have, so in a bad way,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: it's freed up a lot of time to just reflect
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: on those relationships and things like that. And it's it's tough,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: but you know, staying in motion is a good thing.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: You guys are doing what you're doing because you guys
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: are constantly kind of pushing the envelope. And shoot, Dana
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: White did what he did when no one else was
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: doing anything active. He got active and now he's reaping
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 5: the benefits of it. And I don't know that the
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: sport would be that popular if he didn't push the
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: envelope during COVID or during a time where people weren't
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: in motion. So hopefully, who knows how this thing will go,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: But I think staying in motion is healthy and and
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: hopefully it'll benefit me. Again, kind of a selfish decision,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: But Tennessee, Tennessee will be all right. There's some players
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: in that dugout the next few years, so future Giants. Yeah,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: I'm all for that.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: We got.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: That's gonna be a touchy sun.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 6: I bet that's gonna be hard for you too, because
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: are you now as a manager?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Are you?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: You're not the GMS, You're not You're not pulling the
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 6: trigger on draft picks. Correct, correct, But it's such a
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: so you sit there and you're like, hey, this guy,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: and you're you're the one evaluating the ball players as well. Yeah,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: sure there's a level of bias you're gonna have.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: Player I'm hitting them up, ye.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: Little higher, a little more money. But I think the
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: Giants organization has always been very well thought of and
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: kind of a family vibe. So far, it's been enormously
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: welcoming to ideas and into working together. So I think
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: all of us are going to have a voice when
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: it comes to stuff like that. But like the decision
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: you were talking about being skewed because of personal feelings
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: or stuff that's out there. Probably got to be a
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 5: little careful about not loving on those guys too much
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: from my standpoint.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 6: Was there ever a point when this news starts to
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 6: break where you're like, fuck it, I'm just gonna stay here.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: Did you like, was there ever that much second guessing involved?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: When that first hit, it was like, you know, any
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: competitor kind of bows up when someone tells you one
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: thing that it's not true or you don't believe in it,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: you blow up and want to do the other. And
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: so I got good advice from a guy who was
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: a mentor of mine, Sean mccanns's name, and he's like, dude,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: just take a time out. You don't know where that
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: came from or why. And so it was good to
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: kind of take that night to reset. And then, you know,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: it's like these kids I talked to on the phone
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: with college decisions. I mean, when you're getting recruited by
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: SEC schools, you can't really choose wrong. I mean, you're
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: gonna think it if you're working at Tennessee and they
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: choose Mississippi State or you know, South Carolina or whatever.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: But the only way to make a decision right is
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: just to move forward and make it the right one.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: So no going back now.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Was getting in the MLB always like a north star
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: for you?
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: Never just because I didn't think it was possible. I mean,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: I knew enough as a son of a coach that
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: I wasn't skilled enough, that wasn't going to happen as
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: a player. And then I always thought. One of the
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: reasons I went to Missouri and walked on University of
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: Missouri was I always thought, you pretty much and this
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: is true for the most part, you finish or you
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: coach where you finished playing like that level, and I
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: know there's exceptions. So I would took a big risk
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 5: and walked on at a Division I school because that's
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: what I wanted to do, But having never even been
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: in pro ball, I didn't think it was possible. And
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: then the last couple of years some conversations have started
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: where the interest was peaked, and you know, I'd hate
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: to finish coaching without at least trying it.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 6: And yeah, were there any other MLB teams you said
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: in the last couple of years that were interested?
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: Nothing significant? You know, you mentioned agent. You know, Jimmy
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: Sexton's got his hands full now since is your agent. Yeah, but.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: Let's back up.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: That stems more from a guy well that that stems
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: from more of a friendship and a tie. He went
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: to Tennessee, so that's kind of more and of course
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: baseball is not. It's become more his field. And really
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 5: he's impacted the game in a great way. He gets
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: a lot of credit for coaching salaries and where the
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: trend is going right now, so kudos to him. But
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: that's kind of how that relationship worked out. Obviously, he
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: started with Reggie White and he's been in football and man,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: these guys, I can only imagine how much you guys
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 5: have discussed college football. This firing guys in the middle
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: of the season. I get it, but I get it.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: But it happened at an SEC school baseball wise, and
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: I wasn't there, so I'm not talking ill about any decisions.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: But you looked at a schedule this guy had in
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: front of him, It's like, this team is going to
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: win a lot of games, and if you get in
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: the postseason, anything can happen. But they get rid of
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: the guy in the middle of the year. And again
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: the schedule got a little more favorable. They had good players,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: just you guys are athletes. The season has a lot
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: of ebbs and flows. And I've been on teams especially too.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 5: Out of last three three years at Tennessee, we started
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: out really weak and we finished really strong. This past year,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: we started out like a ball of fire and we
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: finished okay. But we were doing so well at the
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: beginning everyone thought we were just going to steamroll every Moody.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: So a season is an entire body of work, and
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: I get it, it's a different sport. You guys know
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: what better than I do. But right now is wild.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: And I mean Lane Kiffin can only take one job
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: out there.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, or even stay. It is nuts. It's like
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: we were talking about it, what is it? Arkansas, Auburn,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: l Florida, Florida.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 6: That's yeah, that's an insane and the.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Still more jobs a lot out there. I'm just saying, yeah,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: what do you do?
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: You know? Now he's just doing it. We shot a
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: reaction show a little bit agoing and we're really having
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 6: a good conversation about football and college and little all
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 6: the head coaching jobs. Then I started talking about Michigan
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 6: and how like I want to see the passing game develop.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 6: He's like a lot of head coaching jobs open out there.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know, what do you do? Har Well?
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: If anything you got Morgan Walling coming to the stadium,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 5: was that July.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that'll be nice, that'll be nice to see Zach Bryant.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 6: He did that set the record and now Morgan's like,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: not on my watch, get that they done?
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: Place gets rowdy.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: Huh, there's a lot of them there.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 6: I think that's probably Michigan's biggest knock in a game.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 6: The atmospheres is not very loud for how many people
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 6: are in the building. Yeah, but I think it's a
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 6: structural thing. It has to be. You can't have one
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 6: hundred and fifteen thou.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Tenne straight up.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: It's like it is a way different sound Tennessee ls
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 6: U A and m We went to Nebraska even ninety
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: two thousand there. Yeah, it's very very loud. Then you
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: go to Michigan and kind of just bows out a
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 6: little bit. Sure we were talking about this before. If
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 6: you just take you get the suitets that they were
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 6: putting in when I first got there, If you just
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 6: kind of put those in next to the big screens
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: and then take out the wood and put in aluminum.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 6: I think you've changed the game right there. A couple
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 6: of hundred mil.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: That's all you gotta, don't I don't know why they
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: went now sore shift for this information.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 6: This is zip Man. And then I got a lot
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 6: of good ideas.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: In Tennessee against Oklahoma.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: I don't know. That was rough, And even more rough
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: was trying to keep one eye on the TV of
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: watching Game seven and then watching the game as well.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: But you know it's up there and Peyton and those
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: guys can break down football better than I can. But
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: it was just a real frustrating game. And you know,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: people seem to be a little sour on our defense,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: but I don't know. You win and lose as a
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: whole team. And you know, coach Hypel has always done
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: well with the offense and the quarterbacks, and the vibe
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: is always good over there, you know, in the building.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: So it's the SEC and it's same for you guys too.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, when it's that high level of competition, it
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: can go one way or the other. And unless you're
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: in the locker room, you don't know if there was
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: a vibe that swung it one way or the other, and.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: We were just talking about the chaos and people just
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: these emotional decisions on firing coaches mid year. It's like
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: after the Oklahoma game, even Hypel's names getting brought up
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: in Lane Kiffin coming back to Tennessee.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: It just got.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 6: Relax.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure he's.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: Gonna make fifty million dollars a year, so he's got
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: a bitting war going crazy right now.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: I'm sure he's been known to get back with an
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: X or two. But there's something to be said for consistency.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: And when I was coming up at Missouri, I spent
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: more days on the bench that I did on the field, unfortunately,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: but I knew I want to coach. I'll surveying. It's like,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: what's consistent about some of these best programs, And a
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: lot of it was that word consistency. When a group
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: can stay together and build some synergy and keep things
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: going with you know, the recruits stay on board, and
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 5: relationships with the donors. I think there's a lot to
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: maybe because I'm defensive of coaches, but there's a lot
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: to be said for riding out some ORMs and giving
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: somebody some freedom, because if you're in our league or
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 5: one of the best leagues in the country, you're gonna
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 5: take blows. You're gonna dish out blows, but you're gonna
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: take some too.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: What's the consistency look like? Like this will be a
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: very broken question, but I'm very curious, Like you being
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: a player, and you be a guy, spend more time
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: on the bench unfortunately than playing. But as you're observing,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: what is the consistency, like, what are the things that
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: in your mind you're trying to build a resume or
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: a portfolio for for you knowing you want to be
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: a coach. What are things you're seeing like when you
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: are in the locker room as a player that you're
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: observing It's like, I'm going to take some of these
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: things knowing that I've experienced it as a player into coaching.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: I think probably even on the sheet of what to
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: do is even on the sheet of what not to do,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: and you know how to approach guys and what freedom
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: to give them reaction wise, you know, the freedom to
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: be who they are. You kind of mentioned that earlier.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: That's all good, but it's got to be under the
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: framework of the team so it sounds real vague and
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: real easy to say, but balance is huge. And like
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: I said that balance eat of learning and watching probably
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: equal to what not to do is just as valuable,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: and there's just as many lessons learned there as what
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: to do.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: You're probably learning it too in real time, Like a
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: coach might have a wrong message of trying to address
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: something and be like, I know my teammate or this player,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: he's not taken it kind of the correct way. This
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: could be a way to get the messaging that the
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: coach wants across and you know, mixing it in with
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: kind of the player mentality. I've always been fascinated with
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: that because my thought if I wasn't podcasting is I was,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: I would get into coaching. So I'm just not too curious.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: It's not too I know, you never know. Man it
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: look listen, if rule can't get it done, you know,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: really see.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: Me, give me five six more years with this man.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 6: He can go do what he wants that I'm really
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: enjoying doing.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: Just needs me. It's like, give me a couple more games.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 6: That's a real thing too, That's a thing that could
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: happen in the next couple of years is maybe like
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: the linebackers don't do well in Nebraska and they will
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 6: call well, but hey, can you just coach the linebackers
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 6: for a couple of years. That conversation is real between
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: me and Will. We've had the conversations of like, if
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 6: you go, what's our game plan?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 5: I think it should be. I mean, I mean as
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 5: far as the thought of who to hire as a coach,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 5: so many times you know that I've been a part
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: of interviews or coworkers and we're kind of doing this now.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: We just talked to a guy. I was like, I'm
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 5: thinking about just quitting my job and starting a company
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: with this guy. Like it doesn't matter if it's working
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: at a pizza parlor or tech industry or coaching or
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: podcast like, this guy would be good. And I think,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: you know, there's some similar traits for people that are
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: successful across the board. And like I said, fortunately or unfortunately,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: I was sitting on the bench a lot, so I
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: didn't have any skills in but I got to watch
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 5: a lot of people that I think had the that
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: set of skills.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, had a good correlation what or the nerves like
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: and stuff. As you're interviewing for this job in the MLB.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: You know, because you you this is a different like
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: first ever it is. Well, the other thing is you're
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: talking to Buster Posey, and that's that's a guy that
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: I had started coaching. But I looked at him, you know,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 5: in college, and watched him in college almost as a fan,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: and then to see what he did in Major League Baseball.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: He's one of the biggest winners ever in pro sports.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 5: And I know that was the concept of bringing him
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 5: on and making him a part of the front office now,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 5: So to talk to him. I mentioned to Jimmy a
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: couple times, like, hey, you you got to let me
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 5: talk to some people other than Buster, because it's impossible
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: not to talk to him and see him for who
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: he is, you know what I mean, and just keep
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: it normal and regular. So that was a big part
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: of the process. But I guess when you're in a
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 5: good position, and I didn't. I didn't hand in a
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 5: resume or seek this out. It kind of presented itself
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: to me. So I felt rock solid. And what was
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: going on at Tennessee and you know, new stadium being
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: built there and the next couple of recruiting classes are
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 5: ranked real high for whatever that it's only worth so much.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 5: But yeah, so I think that kind of changed the
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: tone of it too.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now that you're out of it, how is the
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: nil speak on the nil? How how has it been
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: changing the game in college athletics as particularly at a big,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: small level.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a disaster. I'm in this weird again. We
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: all have thoughts that are probably you dream a little
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 5: bigger then I kind of have this weird fantasy or
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 5: vision of like, Okay, can college and MLB merge together
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: a little bit and help each other? And I wouldn't
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 5: be the main you know, I certainly shouldn't be the
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 5: patron of either, but I could connect the right people
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: and get this thing where it's a little more fluid.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: But the one part MLB can't affect is just where
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: NCAA sports are in general, and it's just a mess.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: And I would say the biggest I'm doing this off
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: the cuff. Hopefully no one wants to slash my tires.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: But it's like you're driving in the fog and you
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: can't really see but about one hundred or two hundred
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 5: feet in front of you, and you know you're grasping
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 5: for what's real, what you can do what you can't do.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: And again, I'm sure someone will throw out that I
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: did something wrong, or I didn't do this, or but overall,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: it's very frustrating. We don't know the rules to the game,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 5: and it's I hate to keep beating up the topic.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: Of course, there's judges in UFC or boxing, but I
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 5: love those two sports because it's two guys locked in
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: one spot, or it could be gals and just who's better.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: And that's what I like more about anything. I mean,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: I almost wish too, like Oregon, you should only be
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: allowed to have a certain amount of uniform combinations, you
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: should only have certain square footage in a locker room,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: like let's find out. That's the whole point of athletics
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: or competition is like let's find out who can do
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: it better. But when you really don't know what the
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 5: rules of the game are, or they're so lopsided in
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 5: favor of Tennessee over Middle Tennessee State, it's kind of
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: hard to have that nose to nose competition.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely. It's the Wild West. There's gonna be
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 6: like a crazy documentary about all the nil it's taking place.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 6: How does it work? For baseball players, Like, do baseball
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 6: players get full scholarships now? Because when we were in school,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 6: it was like baseball was getting like eighty The most
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 6: you could get is like fifty percent. That's like, hey,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: this is a really good baseball player like this percentage.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 6: But now nil has come in, so you're paying these guys,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 6: But do they have full scholarships? Like how does?
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so to make it overly simple, so they're used to.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 5: When I first started coaching, it was eleven point seven
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 5: pretty much for every major programs scholarships. So if I
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: sit down with you and your family and we love
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: on you all weekend official visit, you go down on
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 5: the field for the football game it had finished in
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 5: the office with a here's your scholarship offer, and you
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 5: try and do your best to make it seem as
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 5: big as it can be because it's not an average.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 5: If you do the numbers, eleven point seven, you'd get
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 5: to about forty three percent, so not even half of
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: your cost would be covered. And it's like, we love you,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: but to come here, you're gonna have to pay twenty
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: grand a year out of state kid, Let's say, yeah,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 5: it's just awful dealing with that, and then the nil
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 5: is actually like this is in football, this is a mess,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: but in baseball it's kind of helping, like, hey, you
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 5: got no cost, We'll just figure out a way to
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: combine everything. And then we go into the new territory
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 5: where the rumors became true and it's like I'm in
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 5: the portal. You want me my first phone call? They
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 5: said this number? What do you guys got? And some
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 5: of those conference like kids too, kids literally walked in
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 5: my office like what is it? And I was like,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 5: nice to meet you, you know, you know, and so.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 6: Some of these things are getting so over the tow bat.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 6: They're not even really introducing themselves. They're not there's no
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 6: small talk. It's like, what are you willing to offer
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 6: me to come player school?
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 5: And again no offense to them or no foul on them.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's what I keep saying, what you don't know?
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 5: You don't know. I mean, if their phone call there
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: get from University of whoever is right out of the shoot,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 5: this is what we're offering you. Then that's kind of
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 5: what his expectations are. And now we're at this new
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 5: place where we can offer full scholarships at Tennessee. Not
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: every school did that, and I mean we're talking big
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: time program athletic departments did not boost their scholarships. So
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 5: you can offer full scholarships if you want as an
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 5: athletic department, but it's not available. And then you got
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: this rev share thing, which is real money, but some
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 5: don't get any. And then you got nil, which again
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: is hopefully getting sorted out, but we're still in a
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 5: very gray place with that.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and are you even able to, like if they're
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: getting this offer outside from another universe, that's a great question.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you can't eventually. But with it's like, you know,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: a coach I was talking to you. Even with college football,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: you're like, you're not even having real exit meetings to
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: talk about what the player can work on or develop.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: They're kind of walking in and be like, Hey, this
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: is what I'm hearing from my agent. There's really no
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: conversation to be had unless I get X, Y and Z,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: and it's kind of the bulk. It's that is the
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: exit meeting.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 6: Which is bad for the development of players. Yeah, in
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: the football world, at least, I don't have a work
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 6: in baseball. But yeah, if you're not you can't coach
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 6: a guy hard, he's not going to get better at
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 6: these small things. And you're going to see it in
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 6: the next couple of years where the level of play
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 6: on the field is going to get worse because the
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 6: techniques that is good, because the guys aren't getting coach
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 6: the way they should. They're just getting more and more
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 6: money because they're naturally talented.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's kind of already started that way.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 5: To backtrack a little bit, the one thing is what
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: and again, no foul play on an agent. If you're
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 5: an agent, why wouldn't you say, hey, my guy's been
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 5: offered already kind of between this number and this number,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 5: and maybe you make it seem a little better than
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: it is how we supposed to know, and the recruiting
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: and the summer goes like that. I mean, it's a whirlwind.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 5: So but I think development A word that I kept
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 5: coming up with is sequence. I think there's a sequence
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: that takes place in the development of an athlete, and
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: for some guys that comes quicker, some guys that come slower.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: But there's definitely a sequence you have to respect, and
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: I think all respect for that has gone out the
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 5: window because coaches are you got to make a choice,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: what's your approach? But all of us at some point
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: have tiptoed around something because of the threat of the
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 5: transfer portal or a guy being disgruntled, and then two
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: for a player, it's like, it's not going well. It's
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 5: not going as well as I thought it would, So
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 5: I'm out, And I thought the coolest thing, and I'm not.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 5: I just I know I'm fortunate enough to know Peyton
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 5: because of the university. But when people talked about arch
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: Manning leaving Texas, one of my favorite individuals I've ever
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: met is Archie Manning. And if you know that family,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 5: it's like that dude ain't going nowhere. He's going to
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 5: see that thing through and he's going to make it happen.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 5: And I followed a little bit. It seems like it's
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 5: going decent last.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: Couple of games.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 5: But I think because of the background of that family,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 5: there's a respect for that sequence of development. And at
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 5: some point you're gonna get knocked down and you're gonna
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 5: have to overcome some challenges and if you wait till
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: too long in your career, you might not know how
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 5: to handle it.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it'd be very off brand. For arch Man to
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 6: be in the transfer portal, and you wanted to be
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 6: a massive shock to anybody if he was gonna go
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 6: somewhere else based off of the diversity that was having
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 6: up until these last couple of games. You talked about, Uh,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 6: every coach at some point is kind of tiptoed around
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 6: some things. What are some examples of you tiptoeing around and.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 5: You're like, ah, I should thanks a lot.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 6: Maybe, well, hey we're out now, Wait, this is fair game,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: say names.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean there's one that's pretty well documented. I
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: mean the thing is, sometimes you find out a guy
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: is leaving, and.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 6: You find out be a news or a text.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 5: Well, on the recruiting side, you get a phone call
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 5: and we had kind of blossomed and now all eyes
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: are on us, and I think we could have coached
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: a kid that was a superstar. But you get a
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: call and it's like, hey, this guy's got seven or
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 5: eight sec offers. What's your guys offer? And it's like, well,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 5: and trust me, I'm no saint. But at the time
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 5: it's like, we got too many eyes on us, and
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 5: people are throwing out, you know, certain things. We didn't
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 5: move on it at all. But it's so weird because
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: it's like I just watched this guy on TV. He's
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: playing for a different school and yet shopping these other ones.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 5: So there's so many different situations in recruiting that pop up.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: And that's one. And then with coaching, I had to
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: coach a kid that was really talented that we knew
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: he was out the door. We knew the minute we
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: made kind of a change in role that he was
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: going to be out the door, And we had a
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 5: short conversation in the locker room, like what do we
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: want to do? And finally I just I mean, we
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 5: made a lot of group decisions in this particular case.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 5: I was just like, this is what we're doing, but
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: he's going to leave. And then knowing that you still
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: have season left, it's kind of like you know, the
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: firing coaches in the mills. He's in college football. Sometimes
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 5: it's a different way you get there, but you might
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 5: still be able to have a successful season if you
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: can just kind of keep things on board. So that
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: that was a tough. That was tough one to deal
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: with these.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 6: Decisions of all the schools. When you're getting cult from
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 6: agents being like, hey, we have an offer from this
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 6: school for this much. What's one school that came up
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 6: the most? It was like, hey, L s U. L
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 6: S wh's got a big baseball brother. They're always kind
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 6: offering the most. What school does it seem to you
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 6: is like always offering the most?
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, I think, oh as far as N
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 5: I L N I L like you're I'm talking about, like, yeah,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 5: you know, I think there's a few certain ones that
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 5: seem to be more organized out of the shoot. But
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 5: you know, you brought up L s U. It's like
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 5: it's a religion down there. That culture is so different,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 5: and not just in sports, but just in life. It's
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 5: pretty cool to be around. Just the vibe. You're not
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: going to go hungry if you're walking around down in Louisiana,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 5: and and that vibe is sports is life. And then
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 5: in the state of Texas it's you know, everything's bigger.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 5: It is true in a lot of different ways, and
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 5: down there it's like who can throw out the bigger
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: wallet or the bigger amount. So and then there's traditions
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 5: at other sports too, and there's some quirky niches that
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 5: are out there. So it honestly, it varied. It'd be
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 5: now I'm not in college. Maybe I could throw something
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 5: out there, but it honestly varied where some were really
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: organized out of the shoot and then others made adjustments.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 5: Oil money is real and then you guys see it
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 5: like fan bases or loil and I don't you know,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 5: I've been in Columbus, but ohiose it's a big city
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 5: in Ohio state football? Is it? Is it? That's the
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 5: main deal going on?
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: What are a couple guardrails you'd put up in college
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: baseball with the nil and the portal. It's like for football,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: like I don't know the portal windows and stuff, but
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: in football, I want to say the main one opens
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: up in December, yeah, or.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: The last I thought it was the first week of January.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be that. I know it's shipped a
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: couple of times. But what makes it very hard to
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, if we're going to do all
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: this money stuff and everything else, like just make it
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: a like a free agency type window our kids, Like
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: some of these decisions aren't getting made, were right if
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: there's still some season left or like right after it's happening.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 6: And there's teams playing for in the playoffs that are
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: focused on the playoffs. Other teams are not making a
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 6: bowl game.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: Some bowl games, yeah, but being you know, with our
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: sport being a spring sport, and this is totally off
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: the cuff. I don't have a stance one way or
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 5: the other. But some people are in favor of guys
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 5: being able to transfer and play if you transfer it semester.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 5: So right now, somewhere out there in the SEC, there's
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: a kid that's realizing this isn't the place for me,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 5: and but he's good enough to be in the SEC.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 5: Why can't he transfer at December, at the end of
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 5: the semester and be eligible. You know that that creates
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: a big mess, but that's an option out there. And
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 5: then you know, moving the portal dates. You know, I
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: don't know that it'd affect our deal too much because
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 5: so many of these conversations start before they start, you know,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: so our deal does start, you know, I think in
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 5: the middle of regionals, and it creates a bit of
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 5: a mess. And now you're trying to win a regional
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 5: and you know, recruit a kid or a kid's trying
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 5: to win a regional, but he's already you know, got
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 5: one foot out the door. So I think it's kind
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 5: of nature of the beast.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: A lot of the.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 5: Stuff starts before it actually happens, and I don't know
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 5: how you safeguard or put up you know, rails against that.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: But that's why the smarter people than I and higher
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 5: paid positions.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's a word that gets thrown out a lot.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 5: You know, I think what the actual definition of that
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: needs to be put out there. And I think, you know, again,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 5: someone will say I did this or that, but I
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 5: think pretty staunch penalties against that would be wise. But
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 5: there's always back champ stuff when agents are involved, and
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 5: again they've got a job to do. When agents are
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 5: involved and they can technically be a middleman or a
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 5: third party, it throws everything out of whack a little bit.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 6: I mean even in NFL, like there's a tampering period
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 6: before the free agency period that's.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: Like well known.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 6: It's like these guys as soon as like free agency starts,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 6: if it's like two pm on this day, it's like
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 6: two oh one pm, these ten guys are getting signed
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 6: with these massive contracts. There's always tom foolery about sure,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 6: but it's like, how do you that's like the name
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 6: of the game. Right, Like, you find the rules and
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 6: then you exploit the rules with the way they're written
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 6: to put your team in the best advantage you possibly can't.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've tried to say, I mean with the NCAA
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 5: in particular, I've seen a bunch of rule changes, and
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 5: again I don't know necessarily what's best. You just find
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 5: out what they are and you're trying to do your best job.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 5: But anytime you make a rule or a law, to me,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 5: you should always hire a criminal and say, how are
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 5: we getting around you know, yeah, we're going to start
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: a casino you would want you know, I think you've
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 5: had some time at the table.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, not as a criminal.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 5: How do we hire a criminal?
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 5: Well actually yeah, but you know, find find out what
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 5: are the ways around this, and maybe you can prevent it,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 5: but there's probably always going to be a gray area,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 5: and you know, I guess and anything. Kudos to people
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 5: that are aggressive trying to make it happen.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 6: It's such an interesting world. Danna l is just so
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 6: crazy right now, All.
• 1:41:20
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back to Tony in the MLB world, we
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: in favor of a salary.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 5: Cap to an extent, to an extent I need yeah
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 5: right now?
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: Or not?
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 5: Trying to stay out of trouble.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, although you went a great job of doing the
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 6: allegedlies and people will say I did this, But would.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: You like to see a salary cap in college baseball?
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what I again? I do kind of like
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 5: what it's it's delicate because America is built on pushing
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 5: the envelope and trying to outdo people and capitalism and
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 5: things like that. But in the spirit of competition, I
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 5: do like when things are even, so you know where
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: the where the balance is between those two As far
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 5: as what you can pay people, I don't necessarily know,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 5: but yeah.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: Look at the example of the ESPN and YouTube TV
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, as far as fighting for capital.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 6: Viewers, yeah, the leaders are losing right now on both ends.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 6: Uh yeah, But we were just some of the Dodgers
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 6: and how the Dodgers. It's bad for baseball. The Dodgers won,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 6: this is Mitch's take, because they can pay more money
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 6: for people. Also, they have a crazy like vet tunnel
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 6: from like Japan, the most disciplined people ever, Like the
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 6: people from Japan love Dodgers. If you uh from a
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 6: giant time zone works out the whole thing. They though
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 6: they had a nice little tunnel with the Dodgers. When
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 6: you look at the Giants, is this like a franchise
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 6: that can spend a lot of it? Do they spend
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 6: a lot of money?
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 5: They're aggressive. Okay, good, they're good.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 6: So we're in a good spot.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. You guys want to jump on board.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, we have hasn't hit our account right now
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: to where a couple of years ago somebody was on
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: the podcast is I think they said that they would
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: give their salary to Busting with the Boys to win
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: a national.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 6: And did that person win a national championship? He did
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 6: that year? It did Bust with the Boys get their salary?
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: They did not see a dollar?
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 6: Do you pull up that individual salary?
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: Tuning in with Don't pull San Francisco new viewers rooting
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: on your next manager. Coach Tony V was on. We
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: sat down with him out in Tennessee for Busting with
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: the Boys an episode and oh damn. The question we
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: like to ask is what would you be willing to
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: do to win like a national title or a super
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: Bowl super Bowl? And Tony V was on he said
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: he'd give us his salary if he won a national
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: title that year. We went on through the first pitch
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: here and yea, yeah, they going to win a national title.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: So we've been having guns point at Tony V like, hey,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: you have where's that salary? I fail getting it. We
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: were dipping into the new salary.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 5: We could, we could come up with an agreement, especially
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: because I failed. I've been running around. We're interviewing people,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 5: but the plan was to come in with a briefcase
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 5: full of IOUs two and seventy five thould you might
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 5: want to hold on ye.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: Hold on out.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 6: It's a big one. Might want to hold on that one.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we could.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 6: We'll get on a payment plan. We'll figure it out.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, Like I.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 5: Don't know, Like, I mean, how about a Beverett Like
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 5: now that at least I'm not a molding young men
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 5: and having to recruit, I actually won't be fearful of
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 5: being seen with a beverage in my hand.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 5: Well, we'll start with if I see you guys, a
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 5: free cocktail, and then we'll just keep the tab run
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 5: until a million might buy us a coffee or something
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: And no one how the national title went. You might
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: have to have us out to throw a first pitch
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: to get that World series time.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 5: I'm one hundred percent down with that.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we need that.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: Here's where it starts. Would you be willing to give
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: us your salary this year with the Giants if you
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: win a World Series?
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 5: A good chunk, a good chunk.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, I would exactly what what you need to say
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: right now is yes, then we do the first pitch
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: thing and it might just be written in the stars,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: written the stars. Then you never give it to us.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 5: I would do that. I would do that, and would
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 5: actually give it to us as Yeah, and then i'd
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 5: you know, we'ream the streets of San Francisco and there's
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: got to be a company that's having enough success there
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 5: that amount of chump chain about there.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 6: That's a perfect city to give out money.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 5: Yes, we have a non handshake deal. For the non
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 5: handshake deal for the record.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: Oh bro, what else do I have?
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: I have a question? Oh So, it's like coming up
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: through high school when we were younger, it's like it
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: seemed like if you get drafted or going to the
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: farm system, that could be a better route to the
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: MLB versus like going to college. Has that shifted a
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: lot due to the NIO stuff going on in college baseball?
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: You know what it is? Is that a good question? Yeah?
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 5: I think scouts were real fearful of, Hey, we want
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 5: to give this guy, you know, eight hundred thousand dollars
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 5: in the third round, but he's going to get pushed
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 5: to college. And I think there's been examples people can
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 5: point to, like, hey, they bought this guy out of
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 5: the draft. I think there's probably more of that with
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 5: returning players, like a sophomore or a junior that could
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 5: have left college X and gone to the draft. Maybe
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 5: he's more inclined to come back because he's already ingrained
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 5: in the community. He's getting the andile set up. But
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 5: I think it's, like anything, it's case by case. I
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 5: don't think it was as rampant as maybe scouts feared of. Man,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 5: I'll put all this work in on this guy. I
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 5: know he's the guy I want. I go to the
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 5: front office, But when we call him on draft days like, no,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: I'm good, I'm getting six figures from a college.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: So it skewed it a little bit, I think.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: But so my follow up is that where you is
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: that where some collaborative efforts on bringing college baseball or
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: the NCAA into like the MLB in some sort of
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: a way.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 5: I think, if anything, an understanding instead of both sides
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 5: wondering what's going on. And Hey, I always kind of
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 5: kept my distance because I've just kind of been a
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 5: live I've lived my life in the clubhouse. I mean,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 5: that's my family away from my family. But there's probably
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 5: already been some continuity between college coaches and pro teams,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 5: but might as well open up the avenues and everybody
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 5: have a full understanding of how it works and what
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 5: goes on, so that people can make the best decisions
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 5: without you know, looking back on it with yeah.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel there's a lot there's a lot
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: more nuance as a high school player coming out, Yeah,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: potential to get drafted, potential to go make a lot
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: of money in college, and yeah, so the development in
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: a certain organization that you might want, Like I'm just
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: assuming here, Like if I'm a player and you're a
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: massive fan of you or development of you, and you
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: could get a call coming out on draft day and
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: you're kind of stuck between a rock and a hard
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: place of wanting to go into this organization but getting
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: a lot more big dollars to go play college baseball.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: I could just see where there's a it's a very
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: nuanced decision that an entire family is making.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 5: I think it could be an X factor at the
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: end of the day. I think a lot of decisions
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 5: are made ahead of time, and it's like maybe a
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 5: fallback on something like that. It makes me feel confirms
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 5: that's what I want to do, or just has more
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 5: gives more conviction to the decision. But I think a
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 5: lot of these guys, man, it's in their DNA what
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 5: they want to do at a time. And then you've
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 5: got the first round as unique. It's if they're making
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 5: you their number one, you know they're committed to you
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 5: more than any other player and that draft class to
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 5: make it to the big leagues, it's hard to say
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 5: no when of course there's finances that come with it.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 5: But I think there's very few swing guys where you
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 5: can change their mind. I think more times than not,
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 5: it's kind of in the DNA, so to speak.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: What it.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate you being up, but I'm very right
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: when it comes to all this baseball talk.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Sam, how long if someone's picked in the
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 6: first round, what is like the average amount of time
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 6: it takes them to get to the big leagues.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, we've got a kid now that it'll be
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 5: interesting to coach him because he said no to us
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 5: and committed to Alabama. But Bryce Eldridge is a guy
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 5: who's you know, twenty one years old probably and has
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 5: already seen what it looks like in the big leagues.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 5: So again, that sequence can happen different for various guys.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 5: But to go from high school to the big leagues,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 5: you got your outliers like Brett Anderson was a left
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 5: handed pitcher, and Andrew Jones, who can make it it
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 5: Y're twenty twenty one. But I think on average it's
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 5: price six seven years really, so you know, and again
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 5: I'm throwing that out. All this stuff is just my
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 5: vantage point. There's other people you could bring on that
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 5: are either have variant opinions or are different experts. That's
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 5: cya but uh, but yeah, I think in general you're
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 5: looking at a long march into the big leagues. But
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 5: there's there's reasons why clubs can can show kids it's
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 5: an advantage to get into the organization and start your
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 5: pro career. And then there's also college coaches that can say, look,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 5: if you're playing in the SEC, you're actually speeding up
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 5: the process to make it to the big leagues because
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 5: you're learning how to handle media and you know, compete
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 5: at a high level. Deal with fans knowing what you
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 5: got on your Instagram and yelling at you. And then
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 5: you've seen it too. There's proof in the pudding with
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 5: guys who almost go straight from our league to the
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 5: to the big leagues, whether it's Schimes or Christian more
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 5: guys like that.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: What do you think you what will you miss most
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: about coaching college baseball?
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 5: I think just from seeing this weekend with a college
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 5: football Saturday, just the youthfulness, the youthful energy. Having said that,
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 5: there's a donor who lives here. Really good, dude. I'm
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 5: watching Game seven of the Blue Jays Mariners and he's
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 5: texting me because it had kind of gotten hot and
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 5: heavy at this point. You know, you're better around kids
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 5: and and that energy thing. And I'm watching the game
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 5: and I get that, and I agree with it. But
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 5: if you were watching Mariners versus Blue Jays Game seven
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: and you don't see two dugouts full of kids, you know,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 5: and again, you guys have experienced it in pro sports
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 5: like it's recess. You're wearing a damn uniform.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 6: And still playing, still having fun.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're you're behaving as if you were a
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 5: kid and you're playing a kid's game. And then when
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 5: you take the uniform off. Your life is different because
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 5: you're an adult or you have a family. But I
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 5: think that's the essence of the fun moments of sports
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 5: as you get to see guys being in that character
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 5: of being a kid, but you're seeing it at the
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 5: highest level athlete.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when you're in the playoffs. Why does MLB
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two games?
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 6: Why do we do that? That's so many games?
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: Just so many?
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: How many games are college baseball fifty six regular season?
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: Ok?
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 5: And then of course you start the postseason with the
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 5: conference tournament all that, so you can end up playing
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 5: about seventy games if you have a successful year, maybe
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 5: a little bit more.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 6: Earlier in the part you're talking about you starting off
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 6: slow and then getting real hot towards the end. Then
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 6: this past year is starting real hot and they kind
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 6: of being okay towards the end. How is it as
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 6: a coach manager like motivating guys when you have that
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 6: many games? Because football it's like every game kind of counts.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 6: If you lose one, it's like, guys, we can't we
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 6: if we lose one. More like warnabat spot making the
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 6: playoffs with you, guys, it's like you drop three or four,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 6: it's like, hey, who cares.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 5: Right, well, the biggest thing is and that was something
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 5: people cautioning against me. Of a distaste for losing can
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 5: really hurt you if because even a good season, you'd
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 5: lose sixty games, So you better learn how to deal
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 5: with that. And again I haven't personally experienced it, but
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 5: in the college level, even at fifty six games, it's like,
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 5: we beat Alabama, Coach hypels good enough to have me
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 5: in the locker room, and the guys have cigars and
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 5: things like that. You can't You got a game the
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 5: next day, so you really can't do that baseball. And
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 5: then when you lose, you know, after a loss of
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 5: you prepared all week and it comes down to the
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 5: last play. I can only imagine how down of a
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 5: feeling that is as a coaching staff. Next morning, see
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 5: in the office at six am breakdown video. I'm sure
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 5: coach Eckler would just sleep there. You can't do that.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 5: It's go home, get a good night's sleep. When you
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 5: take you know, the old one. One kind of mental
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 5: deal is when you take your jersey off, the game
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 5: is over. In baseball, some guys will roll with that.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 5: So yeah, it's a lot, a lot bigger sample size,
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 5: and you got to learn to roll with the punches
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 5: a little bit more and you can't get as hyped
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 5: up as you as you do running out of the tunnel.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: Dude, it is it is so fucking cool that you
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: were the first manager to kind of make this crack
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: into going from college to the MLB when you are
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: in your reflective stage, is your reflective state, Like, what
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: are some moments you look back on that you were
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: proud of that you persevered and stayed the course knowing
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: that you are now in this spot. It's I mean,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: it's fucking awesome, bro, especially if if you're you.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 6: Go on win World Series and like yeah, like the
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 6: ability you've had, you're like, hey, well see if it
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 6: works out and all that. It's like we all know
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 6: the competitor and he was like you, obviously you're going
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 6: to crush this. But it's like they're the guinea pig
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 6: and you're kind of figuring out, like is this gonna work?
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: Because if this.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 6: Works out for you, you're opening up a door to
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 6: every college baseball coach and it's like it's a sick
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 6: opportunity that you're being able to pave the way and
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 6: be different than everybody else.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 5: Now that's a source of energy too, that that other
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 5: people might be able to do something that they normally
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 5: wouldn't and it's it's not going to be me, it's
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 5: going to be just the general concept. And I think
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 5: there's starting to be an understanding of, yeah, I didn't
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 5: ride all the buses in the minor leagues where I
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 5: didn't have the talent to make it to the big leagues.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 5: And I'm speaking on all college coaches, but the time
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 5: these guys have to invest in recruiting and learn how
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 5: to deal with people and watch games. I mean, you
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 5: watch five or six games on any given day in
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 5: the summer through recruiting, so you're around baseball as much
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 5: as anybody. So if there's a little bit stronger of
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 5: a bridge there, that would be pretty awesome to be
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 5: a part of. But you know, reflecting on what I
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: persevered through as a player, speaking of crying at Missouri,
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 5: there's a couple of times where I was just like,
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 5: I'm working my ass off and I'm not getting rewarded
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 5: the way that I should. Is this worth it? And
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 5: there were a couple of days where I was just
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 5: gonna quit as a player and I didn't, you know,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 5: see it working out like this. But if I would
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 5: have quit as a player, it wouldn't have worked out
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 5: as a coach. And then two, as a coach, it's
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 5: kind of like being an insurance salesman recruiting. I've heard
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 5: know so many damn times. I think, again, you only
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 5: see the successes. So maybe people think it's different. But
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 5: even at Tennessee, you hear know all the time and
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 5: it's negative feedback and it can beat you up. So
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 5: to keep pushing through it is pretty huge. But yeah,
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 5: that was It would take me a while to reflect
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 5: on the whole career. There's there's a lot of ups
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: and down, strikes and gutters, as the big Lebowski says,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 5: But you know, it's been been awesome to be a
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 5: part of some of the teams I've been around. And
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 5: ultimately it starts with players. So again, I think the
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 5: concept started of maybe a college coach, but it started
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 5: with them having an interest in our players. And then two,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 5: I've gotten credit for being around guys like Kyle Gibson's
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 5: a major League All Star guy, coached any we could
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 5: go pick somebody up off the street, they could have
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 5: coached that guy. It was just fortunate enough to get
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 5: a yes from them in recruiting, you know. And Max
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 5: Scherzer is Max Scherzer. But every time I address a team,
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 5: I can bring him up because everybody knows him and
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 5: I'm friends with him, and I coached him, and you
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 5: can almost kind of take credit for some of the
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 5: things he's done. But you've seen that guy Pitch. I mean,
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 5: he is the definition of creating your own future.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's sick man. You will be successful in
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: whatever moments you do reflect on a come up with
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: it can be part of your book one day. It
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: just won't you know, Wiley will not go bias that
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: we got to have him on the bus. Yeah, as
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: you're going in the majors. And not only that, but
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: we got to sit with you like before you went
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: on that the national title run and out. It's to me,
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: it's just sick that you you we have this relationship
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: and you've allowed us to interview you and you've came
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: on the bus, and when you are fucking successful one
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: day and you do win the World World Series, like
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: I know, for us this will be this would.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 6: Just be a you talking about taking credit for what
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 6: some guys have done, like your perfect example for us,
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 6: when you win a world series, We're like, look what
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 6: we did, yeah, the three of us, Yeah, taking credit,
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 6: we helped Will Will the Giants into a world series.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 5: Well let's say, okay, if we are going to Manifest
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 5: or whatever, and we win a world series, if you
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 5: guys get to be in the clubhouse with the champagne
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 5: and everything, what is that worth dollar wise? Do you
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 5: see that?
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 6: Like, that's a good million.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: Put me some five.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 6: That might be worth five hundred. Put the cool goggles dropping,
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 6: dropping the it's ridiculous, like snowboarding goggles.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 5: Now I remember the I mean you were out there
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 5: and you threw out that first pitch and I was like, well,
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 5: ship didn't or do you have eligibility? Or but then
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 5: did you have again I'm not on social.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 6: Media, yeah you know on social media, but go ahead.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 5: Then there was there one that wasn't a successful Yeah
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm not being facetious. I'm trying to because
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 5: the one looks like.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: A good, big long lefty when he threw that first
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: pitch here and now it.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 5: Was good, really good.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 6: Thank you, And you brought that up because everyone wants
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 6: to look at Saint Louis and be like, that's the
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 6: sample size. Like people forget what happened in Tennessee. Here's
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 6: what happened. I tasted the success, sure, and I felt
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 6: good about it. A couple of your your guys and
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 6: the volunteers not bad. You know, used to throw a
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 6: little bit back in the day. So we go to
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 6: this Cardinals game and I'm thinking, I'm just gonna throw
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 6: as hard as I can. I'm gonna try to throw heat,
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 6: get on like ESPN Top ten and yeah, got away
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 6: from me, got away from me. Didn't bring it around. Yeah,
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 6: And can I be honest? Since that day, I've had
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 6: the yips well to where we go and we go
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 6: to the Royals game and I throw one that's a
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 6: little too high and it's better than that one, but
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 6: it's like, what are Let's get back to the basics.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: Sure, So working on the side, he gets the ball
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: in his hand and you feel the confidence. But the
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: moment you step in the big leagues, Yeah, got that
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: ball in his hands, that could just start shaking.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna yeah, I'm I'm a triple A guy. I'm
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 6: never gonna do that. I'm a dude. That's gonna ride
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 6: the bus for fifteen twenty years.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 5: I don't have all the answers, but I'm in Nashville,
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 5: so maybe we need to play cats a little bit.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 6: I should have called you during this process.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 5: You know, the if anyone's listening out there that has
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 5: that opportunity. The number one advice I would say is
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 5: don't try and throw it hard. And you did better
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 5: than like fifty cent tried to throw hard and he's
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 5: muscled up, and Connor McGregor tried to do the same thing.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 5: So yeah, just a little feel, a little touch pass if.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Well that's the thing though, is we It would
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 6: be very easy for me after that Cardinals game to
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 6: go and just kind of throw a muffin, get it
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 6: in there, no problem. But it's like, am I going
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 6: to take that way? Or I have to like kind
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 6: of keep the same process. Yeah, and I have to
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 6: conquer throwing hard.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna have to.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 6: Maybe after this podcast we get out there. We had
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 6: a couple gloves, you give me, Just give me a
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 6: couple of pointers. Throw the ball ten fifteen times.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 5: I should have brought all these materials. I'm upset the
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 5: no suitcase with the IOUs should have brought a ball
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 5: on some gloves.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 6: That's right. I can guarantee we'll be out in San
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 6: France sometime. Yeah, I can guarantee that for you. Bring
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 6: it on, We'll be out. I think we're officially a
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 6: bus with the boys. Uh, San Francisco Giants fans, right
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 6: we are.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 5: Now, I'll send some gear. Yeah, you know spooky now
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 5: that Super bowls in San Francisco, right, Yes, will you
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 5: guys set up shop out there doing anything?
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 6: We will be out there.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be out there. We haven't got said in
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: stone yet.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we can arrange that. I've got an I
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 5: don't know that I should. Gabe Capler. Uh, there there's
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 5: a place that's been talked about.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 5: You know, Bob Melvin was the last manager and I
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 5: didn't get say it in the press conference, shame on me.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 5: But he reached out to me and was a class
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 5: act and uh was very helpful. And then the manager
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 5: before him was Gabe Capler. And Uh, Gabe is in
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 5: pretty good shape and I think I think enjoyed the city.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 5: So I'll explain how that involves a living arrangement. War off.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 6: The sounds like we have a big enough place to stay,
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 6: will we come out.
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 5: We'll make sure that happens anyway. But yeah, there's the
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 5: official invitation, and man, what a cool I want to
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 5: see that stadium as well. I mean our park. You
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 5: guys will absolutely fall in love with. But I want
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 5: to go out there. And John Lynch reached out right
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 5: away obviously he's involved in the organization. Great dude. And
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 5: then if I can meet coach Shanahan because those guys
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 5: like Al Wilson and Peyton that know him through you
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 5: know his father with the Broncos. I always asked about
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 5: him and they say, the guy's an absolute superstar.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: You got a great football team that would very much
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: probably rally around the Giants. Yeah, good crew, good locker room,
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 1: good locker room.
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 5: I probably shouldn't have it, but I was given George
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 5: Kittle's number, and uh, boy, would be fun to take
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 5: part in some shenanigans with that guy. Have you reached
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 5: out to George yet, Well, it was a group message.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 6: Got so Yeah. Yeah, George is the perfect guy. He's
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 6: the type of dude that he get dms from guys
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 6: and become friends with them. Yeah, and they'll be at
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 6: his part his Uh, George Hittlefest.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and not just dms from guys. I'm talking like
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: this is like meme group DM. Yeah. People he doesn't
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: know that, like Xbox fans, and they'll be out at
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: kittle Fest because he's like, oh, you're my guy, George,
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: Like and I'll be go, how'd you meet George? Like, Oh,
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: we're on the same kind of like Xbox team. Like
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: we just kind of DM every week and people drop
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: like different just memes in the DM, and Georgia will
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: respond and now they're out of here at kittle Fest
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: in Nashville.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so George, George is he's the perfect guy. The
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 6: forty nine ers.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 5: That's a true clubhouse team. That's why every kid should
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 5: at least be on one, you know, take part in
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 5: one team sport. Yeah, glovehouse mentality. It sounds like he's
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 5: the definition of it. What the hell's kittle Fest?
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: Kittle Fest? Yeah, yeah, kittle Fest where Yeah, it's Kittlefest.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: You don't know how to explain it.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 6: But every year is a different theme. It's out of
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 6: his farm, food trucks, jelly roll. He just randomly comes
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 6: in place.
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, people performing beer games. George just throws a party.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 5: That's awesome. Yeah, Jelly roll Man, that guy says something
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 5: to you. Even it was just a regular sentence, it
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 5: feels like a sermon. It's awesome. I have to have
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 5: him speak to the team if we if we go
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 5: through any poor streaks.
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, he is the nicest guy ever.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 1: Yes he does. We want to him with the bud
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: Light questions. Go what an opportunity for him to say.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: I'd be willing to give my entire salary to you
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: guys if we win the World series. Yeah, but we
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: can hit him with the bud Light questions. So bud
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: Light people would do anything for an ice cold bud light?
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, what is.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: Something that you would do anything for.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't stand in front of a gun with Kid Rock,
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 5: that's for sure. It was just Halloween for an ice
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 5: cold bud light. I'd be willing to go back to
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 5: my I didn't wear a costume this year, but kind
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 5: of the one that I regret or look back on
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 5: the most was Kramer and Seinfeld once was trying to
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 5: be an underwear model. So there was one time I
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 5: roamed the streets of Columbia, Missouri with just tidy whities
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 5: and some Doc Martins or some shoes. So I'd revisit
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 5: that Halloween costume for an ice cold butler.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 6: Hey, yeah, that's a good one.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: Columbia, Missouri.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 5: It's a fun town. Yeah, it's a fun town.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: It's part of some interesting teams.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 5: It's a little chilli. Yeah, a lot of personalities there,
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 5: and yeah it's interesting. I like the loyalty thing and
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 5: being a part of one place. But when you explore
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 5: new areas, you meet people that you never would have met,
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 5: and you pick up on different cultures. And I look
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 5: back on the four colleges I worked at and wouldn't
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 5: have it any other way.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: So to juice up the Seinfeld clip, would you be
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: willing to throw us an image of you back again?
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 5: Is this an off air thing or is this going.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 6: On on social media?
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 5: I can't, I can't. I gotta do something between now
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 5: and spring training. I gotta get in shape if I'm
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 5: gonna be in uniform around these guys. But back then
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 5: I was in decent shape. But I don't think it
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 5: was anything to brag about and have the whole world
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 5: looking at that's for sure.
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll handle this is a throwback photo. I'm wondering
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: the streets and tidy whities.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, dude, congrats on your success.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 6: This is it's awesome ground floor.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 5: I appreciate it.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: And thank you for taking the time to come here.
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 5: No, this is awesome. Anyone would ever get a chance
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 5: to do this, UH would be floored. And you know,
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 5: Coach Eckler was good enough to to hook us up
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 5: a few years back and fortunately went well enough. I
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 5: didn't screw it up, but you know, you guys had
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 5: floated the invite. I knew something crazy had to happen
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 5: to actually step foot on this bad boy, and uh,
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Maybe maybe one day down the road
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 5: we can do it again. Scottsdale, Arizona the the mecca.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 5: And uh, I've never got to do the waste management thing.
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 5: My buddies do that every year. And I'm in a groove.
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 5: Text Bruce Bochi, you know he was another guy these
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 5: man like, I'm blown away because you know, on the
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 5: SEC there's high level of respect, but you're at each
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 5: other's three wrote more than you want to be. And
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 5: I got the job, and all these guys reached out
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 5: to me with either text messages or phone calls. Managers
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 5: now in the MLB or former managers. And Bruce Bochi
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 5: he was with the Giants and with Buster. He lives
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 5: here and I was able to sit with him. But
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 5: one of the things he said a lot of great advice,
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 5: but maybe the thing that jumped out the most was
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 5: he said, Scottsdale, Arizona during spring training is like Marty Grass.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 6: It is, dude, it's a zoo I grew I mean,
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 6: I grew up in Arizona and every time every spring
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 6: training it was like a flood of people coming in,
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 6: always something to do, somewhere to go. You're gonna love
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 6: old town Scottsdale. And if I could just give you
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 6: a piece of advice, if you want a team bonding experience, yes,
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 6: take your boys to Zips. Go to Zip. Hey, Am
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 6: I wrong? Hey?
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 1: Get some golden wings.
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 6: Call Zips, tell rent out this place, get yourself some
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 6: golden wings for the boys, some Monaco ficasias. You get
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 6: the whole.
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: Team in there.
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 6: But you're gonna spend twelve hundred bucks to feed your
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 6: entire team, but you're gonna walk away with full bellies
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 6: and full hearts. You guys might win it all based
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 6: off of this one experience.
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 5: We will set that up one hundred percent and we'll come.
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 1: How awesome would that be. It's like the players are
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 1: like coach apparently has some nice dinner. Yeah, Jop's the location.
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 6: They pull up Zips Sports Bar and he's just like
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 6: Taylor told me to go here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but that well, zim Zip sent us a gift
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  Speaker 6: card for two and fifty dollars, which is like a
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  Speaker 6: month worth of Zips. And we have talked about like
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  Speaker 6: flying into Arizona for one day just to get Zips
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  Speaker 6: and come back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: But now spring training, boys.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 5: Let's go training. And then also, so those guys are
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 5: training for the for the big league season. You come down.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 5: You trained for a first pitch in spring training.
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  Speaker 6: I love it?
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  Speaker 1: And we finished.
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  Speaker 5: Ready, Yeah, the real game in San Francisco.
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  Speaker 1: I would love.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Zips is the icing.
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  Speaker 6: Zips is icing on the cake. We're going to a
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  Speaker 6: full day of training. Get the elbow nice and sore,
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  Speaker 6: then we're gonna go feed some Zips. That elbow be
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  Speaker 6: just fine. It's gonna be awesome.
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  Speaker 1: You can just tell them we got a couple of
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  Speaker 1: sponsors that lined us.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, bring all the fellas Man Center on the boys. Hey,
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  Speaker 6: that's I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Chef before we get off for Jack.
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  Speaker 1: Any questions for Coach b being sick o all fans.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, not a question.
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  Speaker 10: But thanks You truly embody what it is to be
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 10: a Tennessee ball and took Tennessee baseball into the forefront,
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 10: brought us first Natty truly incredible. The whole fan base,
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 10: I can wholeheartedly speak for them. We will miss you
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 10: and wish you the best of luck with the Giants.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 10: And yeah, I'll be telling the giants now moving forward,
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 10: so GBO and whatever the go Giants.
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 5: So thank you for I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Also thanks here. You're actually the reason I have a
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 4: job here. I did the documentary on Hunter I don't
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 4: know if you remember, and I interviewed you. That's the reason, Jared,
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 4: when I was an intern, he said, just off of
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 4: that alone is kind of how I got started here.
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 4: So appreciate it. Appreciate everything I did. Ball Baseball has
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 4: been such a great like since you got there and
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 4: turned the program into what it is now. It's added
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 4: just another sport that we get excited for and it feels,
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 4: you know, anything that we can root on the Orange
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 4: and White is the best thank you and best of luck.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, thank you man. That's a cool story and
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 5: you did the work, so it's it.
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  Speaker 1: Goes to show you even know that with the documentary.
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean, if you do good work, someone's
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 5: gonna notice. So good on you for that to happen.
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 5: But I'm glad we had a part in it, and
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 5: overall just it almost like anytime you're talking to a
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 5: ball fan, you feel like you're talking to the whole group.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 5: It's just a representative at that So as far as
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 5: that exchange goes, I got more out of it than
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 5: anyone else did. And it couldn't have happened without all
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 5: the ingredients are there in a great city, obviously phenomenal
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 5: place in the fan base. And then you mix in
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 5: college baseball. If you haven't been to a college baseball
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 5: game and you're listening, you gotta go, no matter where
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 5: it is. It's become a party and it's a lot
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 5: of fun and you're seeing future big leaguers for a
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 5: much cheaper price. You know, not that there's anything wrong
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 5: with the San Francisco Giants prices, but no apreciation as
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 5: mutual and dude, Walk, I didn't know my dad's like,
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 5: how was the feedback or whatever? Because he cares and
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 5: you got to grow thick skin. But I went back
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 5: to the football game Saturday and just entering the stadium
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 5: stuff that people were saying on the street. I was like,
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 5: again to use the tears theme, Like, I was like,
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 5: I gotta duck my head and get in the stadium
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 5: because this is emotionally overwhelming and people don't have to
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 5: do that. So I appreciate it.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 4: I think part of it Josh Lander stepping in. I
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 4: think a lot of people have trust in him, And
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 4: do you want to speak anything on that? And kind
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 4: of yeah, tell volls fans what they can expect. I've
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 4: heard some really cool stories about him being in Canada
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 4: and wildfires or maybe it was California and drove home
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 4: for like his wife's he was doing recruiting, wife pregnant,
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 4: and then got back out like just these crazy hard ethics,
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 4: hard work ethics stories. Do you have anything you can
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 4: attest to that?
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, to a fault going back and forth and being
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 5: on top of the recruiting thing, for sure, But no,
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 5: that was I feel like, you know, again the hat,
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 5: I feel like I'm still a part of all nation,
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 5: but really truly being a part of a victory that
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 5: was the last victory I was a part of, and
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 5: it was a small part of it.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 5: It was the player spoke up, the agents that he
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 5: worked with, the summer coaches, the players that are in
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 5: our recruiting classes. He was the guy that was heading
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 5: all that up. And you know, just because there were
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 5: some moments maybe you accidentally touch an umpire or bump
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 5: into an umpire, I should say, you get a little
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 5: more attention than you deserve. There was a massive group
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 5: effort in that building to try and get the thing,
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 5: you know, going, and he was just a big of
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 5: a part of it as any. So he's the right leader,
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 5: but there's also the right players on the field. And
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 5: then also it'll keep that culture going. And there's something,
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 5: like I said, consistency of that culture. Tennessee baseball, for
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 5: whatever reason, has a vibe and the fans contribute to it.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 5: So the fact that ViBe's gonna keep rolling fires me up,
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 5: should fire everybody else up to.
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 1: YEA, yeah, before we get off, do you have a
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: piece of advice that you've latched onto as you're making
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 1: this transition.
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 5: Again, I think, make a decision and do it like
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 5: hell was something that a family we talked about earlier
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 5: kept kept revisiting with me. And and the thing I've
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 5: always latched onto from a mentor of mind with these
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 5: recruits is the right decision is the one you make,
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 5: you know, unless you look back on it or your
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 5: second guess or you regret things. So those are somewhat
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 5: corny ones, but I think impactful at this point. But
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 5: more than anything, I'm just gonna enjoy it. Again. I'm
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 5: the guinea pig, so whichever way it goes, I'm blessed
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 5: to be able to experience it. And the organization has
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 5: blown me away so far and how they do things,
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 5: So I'm gonna learn a lot and have fun doing it.
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 5: And we'll see if we win enough games for you
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 5: guys to be in the locker room one day. Appreciate it.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 6: Thank you, a pause, thank you. That's what the Boys
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