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Speaker 1: Jeez eats the bulk report.
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Speaker 2: Tonight, an Australian city faces the wipeout that was once
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Speaker 2: mocked by labor and journalists of the left of the
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Speaker 2: Albaneze government doubles down on the disaster. Also tonight, Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump warns some as terrorists after seeing the hostages. It's
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Speaker 2: starved and tortured. Release the rest.
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Speaker 3: Now, if all of the hostages aren't returned by Saturday
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Speaker 3: at twelve o'clock, I would say cancel it and all
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Speaker 3: bets are off and let hell break out.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Donald Trump's martial arts mate attacks our media.
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Speaker 4: You have the biggest I've ever seen in the media
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Speaker 4: in my life.
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Speaker 2: At a Sydney council hikes its rights by nearly nine
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Speaker 2: after another council raised them by forty. What is going on?
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Speaker 2: But first now, before I get to what really is
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Speaker 2: the big news today for Australia, for our future, Let's
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Speaker 2: go for the Eglisi one. Anthony Albanezy today treated Australians,
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Speaker 2: especially Australian journalists, like idiots. He did a Nevil Chamberlain.
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Speaker 2: You know I got a deal peace in our time,
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Speaker 2: waived a document around not quite it, just chatted to
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Speaker 2: US President Donald Trump and said it was fantastic. Albanies
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Speaker 2: even showed a picture of himself talking to the great Man.
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Speaker 2: I think called the press conference. He said he couldn't
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Speaker 2: say too much wink wink. But Trump had now promised
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Speaker 2: in his very warm conversation that he'd considered giving Australia
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Speaker 2: an exemption from the twenty five percent tariffs that Trump
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Speaker 2: was planning for imports of steel and aluminium.
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Speaker 5: I presented Australia's case for an exemption, and we agreed
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Speaker 5: on wording to say publicly, which is that the US
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Speaker 5: President agreed that an exemption was under consideration for in
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Speaker 5: the interests of both of our countries.
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Speaker 2: Success, thanks in part to Albow's charm.
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Speaker 5: We spoke about a range of other things as well,
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Speaker 5: including the fact that Jordan Malaia as a Super Bowl champion,
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Speaker 5: and I did point out that he was a South
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Speaker 5: Sydney junior.
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Speaker 2: Except just seventy five minutes after Albany's's boast there, Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump did sign an executive order imposing exactly the territory threatened,
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Speaker 2: with no exemption for anyone, not even Australia.
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Speaker 3: It's twenty five percent without exceptions or exemptions, and that's
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Speaker 3: all countries, no matter where it comes from, all countries.
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Speaker 2: Seventies. He was looking pretty shonky.
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Speaker 6: So true.
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Speaker 2: Trump did then offer a little out an opportunity.
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Speaker 3: I just spoke to him, very fine man, and he
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Speaker 3: has a surplus. I mean, we have a surplus with Australia.
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Speaker 3: What are the few and the reason is they buy
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Speaker 3: a lot of aeroplants. They are rather far away and
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Speaker 3: they need lots of aeroplanes, and we actually have a surplus.
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Speaker 3: It's one of the only countries which we do. And
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Speaker 3: I told him that that's something that we will give
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Speaker 3: great consideration to.
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Speaker 2: Let's cut the spin. Donald Trump has offered Albany's exactly
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Speaker 2: what has offered to every country that is threatened with tariffs.
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Speaker 2: It's an invitation to make him an offer he can't refuse.
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Speaker 2: We're on the ground floor. We have to give him
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Speaker 2: something to get something like Mexico did, like Canada did. Now, yes,
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Speaker 2: I know, look, maybe Trump will exempt Australia from that
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Speaker 2: tariff for good allies. But Trump's executive order actually shows
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Speaker 2: what's annoying him. He claims that the volume of viewers
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Speaker 2: imports of primary aluminium from Australia. Oh yeah, in twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty four was approximately one hundred and three percent higher
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Speaker 2: than the average volume for twenty fifteen through twenty seventeen Australia.
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Speaker 2: Trump claims has disregarded as verbal commitments to voluntarily restrain
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Speaker 2: it's only minium exports to a reasonable level. And I
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Speaker 2: guess that's a commitment given by Scott Morrison, at least
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Speaker 2: in Trump's mint. So I do think that Trump does
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Speaker 2: want something. So what's Albanize his plan? Now? I'm not
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Speaker 2: sure that I go along with everything that Peter Dutton,
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Speaker 2: the Opposition leader said today.
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Speaker 7: I think it's a statement the fact that the Prime
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Speaker 7: Minister has made the relationship more difficult through his previous comments,
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Speaker 7: the comments at Penny Wong and comments obviously if ambassador rived,
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Speaker 7: which were deeply personal in nature.
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Speaker 2: Look, alban Easy is pouring on the charm so much.
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Speaker 2: Well you heard the President calling him a very fine man.
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Speaker 2: This is not about, this is busy, it's not personal
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Speaker 2: because either way, Trump just wants a deal that he
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Speaker 2: can boast about see the American people. And Albani is
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Speaker 2: on the back foot here for never having met Trump
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Speaker 2: and having spoken to him money once. Ever, I think
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Speaker 2: to a man that he once said publicly scared him.
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Speaker 2: Here's the Opposition leader today on this.
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Speaker 8: Talking about being scared of President Trump.
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Speaker 7: I don't know whether he's still scared of him, or
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Speaker 7: happy to be sort of on the end of the
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Speaker 7: phone but not in person, or something.
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Speaker 9: I don't know.
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Speaker 8: But what I do know is that President Trump hears
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Speaker 8: those messages.
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Speaker 7: And I don't think it's productive to the dynamic in
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Speaker 7: the relationship.
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Speaker 2: You know, just thinking aloud here, if alban Easy had
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Speaker 2: the guts to appoint mining billionaire Gina Reinhardt must be
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Speaker 2: clear friend of mine, appoint her as his Australian envoy
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Speaker 2: to sort this out. I reckon you get through Trump's
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Speaker 2: door like Ambassador Kevin Rudd cannot, and probably get him
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Speaker 2: to give Australia break. I mean, bosh, he is a
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Speaker 2: forceome nature. But you know that kind of out of
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Speaker 2: the box thinking Trump style thinking, do you really think
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Speaker 2: that Albaneze is the kind of man who'd be so
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Speaker 2: bold in what looks like a giant game of chicken?
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Speaker 2: But to the biggest story today about our future, and
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Speaker 2: it's about an obvious truth that we often ignore, particularly
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Speaker 2: our politicians. Again in the Senate last night, unbelievable. Stupid
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Speaker 2: ideas have consequences, which is one of the reasons one
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Speaker 2: of our cities faces devastation today. Fourteen years ago, Tony Abbott,
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Speaker 2: as opposition leader, warned that Labour would wipe out the
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Speaker 2: South Australan city of Wayala with its global warming crusade
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Speaker 2: the carbon tax. Back then Labor Minister Craig Emerson famously
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Speaker 2: mocked him and a warning. Some viewers may find this
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Speaker 2: video confronting, No.
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Speaker 10: Why allah wipe out there on my TV? No, why
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Speaker 10: Illa wipe out there on my TV? No, why Alla
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Speaker 10: wipe out there on my TV? Shocking me right out
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Speaker 10: of my brain.
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Speaker 2: This is so often how global warming policies are discussed,
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Speaker 2: isn't it. I mean, if you do one of the consequences,
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Speaker 2: cost benefit, all that kind of suff you're treated as
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Speaker 2: a heretic or a fool. It's like you've blasphemed or
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Speaker 2: broken wind in church or something. And over the years,
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Speaker 2: not very clever commentators and academics have kept up this mockery,
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Speaker 2: the taxpayer funded conversation, for instance, looking good, why why
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Speaker 2: ell are of all places in this sinny morning herald?
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Speaker 2: Seven years ago that flogger of lost causes of the
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Speaker 2: Left Peter fitz Simon's why Tony Whyella is still on
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Speaker 2: the map and powering ahead because look the British steel
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Speaker 2: mag Sanjeev Gupta has announced his plans to build one
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Speaker 2: of the biggest steel works in the world in Wyala.
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Speaker 2: And how will those steel works be powered mostly by
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Speaker 2: renewable energy? Honestly they believe this stuff, do they? And
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Speaker 2: indeed you know that's very smooth talking. Sanjeev Gupta, who's
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Speaker 2: got unpaid bills from here to London, had we our
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Speaker 2: journalists with this snake oil about making whaleless steel works
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Speaker 2: green but running it on green hydrogen, a fuel improven
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Speaker 2: at scale. Yes, green hydrogen. As I showed you last night.
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Speaker 11: British industrialist and owner of Wylers Steelworks, Sanjeev Gupta has
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Speaker 11: big ambitions to use hydrogen instead to make what's known
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Speaker 11: as green steel.
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Speaker 2: For us, this is our one best hoop for the
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Speaker 2: immediate future. And as I told you last night, Gupte
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Speaker 2: Steelworks now owes tens of millions of dollars to supplies
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Speaker 2: and the South Australian government it's not paying its bills
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Speaker 2: sid me. Peter malinowskis today warned its directors on radio
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Speaker 2: against breaking the law.
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Speaker 12: It is a criminal offense to knowingly trade in a
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Speaker 12: way there's insolvent.
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Speaker 2: Now, if these steel works do fall over, as it's
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Speaker 2: looking now likely, this is going to be humiliating for Melanowskus,
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Speaker 2: but also for Federal Energy Minister Chris Bowen. Really this
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Speaker 2: is another one of his fellows. Bowen has actually given
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Speaker 2: Goodt's Wayola steel Works sixty three million dollars of your
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Speaker 2: money to go green. But if it goes barely up,
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Speaker 2: that also means the end of the planned green hydrogen
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Speaker 2: plant in the Awayala that both the Premier and Chris
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Speaker 2: Bowen have promised and backed, a plan to make hydrogen
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Speaker 2: for water and you know with wind and solar power,
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Speaker 2: which is all part of our green hydrogen plan that
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Speaker 2: Bone has claimed repeatedly will make us an energy superpower.
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Speaker 13: Our green hydrogen future is fundamental to that clean energy future.
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Speaker 2: But since then, of course, as I've detailed here over
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Speaker 2: the year, big investors have given up on green hydrogen.
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Speaker 2: Three of the big six big green hydrogen schemes that
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Speaker 2: Bone back the year ago have now collapsed or seen
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Speaker 2: well clinically dead. And it's no wonder. I mean, green
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Speaker 2: hydrogen too expensive, too explosive, It leaks badly, and it
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Speaker 2: can't even be used in normal pipes because hydrogen is
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Speaker 2: the smallest of all atoms. But last night Bowen and
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Speaker 2: the Albanezy governments still doubled down on this disaster. They
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Speaker 2: got the Senate to agree to even more subsidies to
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Speaker 2: somehow persuade investors to put even more of your money
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Speaker 2: into trying to make green hydrogen work.
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Speaker 13: Last night, our production tax credits past the Senate, opposed
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Speaker 13: by those opposite, but supported supported by the cross benchers
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Speaker 13: in the Senate.
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Speaker 2: And a warning the Greens warned last night that if
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Speaker 2: labor does crawl back after the next election with its help,
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Speaker 2: you're going to get even more of your money spent
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Speaker 2: like this on green fantasies while we'd run out of electricity.
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Speaker 11: I stand here to congratulate the Obaneze government today on
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Speaker 11: this work.
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Speaker 14: In fact, we could go further and with.
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Speaker 15: The Greens in minority governments in the forty eighth Parliament.
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Speaker 2: Spare us today opportunity to Peter Uton reached out to
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Speaker 2: the South Australian Premier to try and help. But it
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Speaker 2: looks a mess. I mean, Wayala looks like learning the
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Speaker 2: very hard way that Labour's green inergy schemes simply don't work.
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Speaker 8: Which obviously is a difficult and precarious issue.
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Speaker 7: And I've said to the Premier that as a coalition
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Speaker 7: we'd be very keen to work closely with the South
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Speaker 7: Australian Government to do whatever we can to make sure
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Speaker 7: that we can.
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Speaker 8: Preserve jobs and that industry.
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Speaker 7: It's an incredibly worrying situation in Wales and as a
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Speaker 7: result of the Urbanezi government's energy policy, they make it
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Speaker 7: harder and harder for these businesses to survive them.
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Speaker 2: So how did so many politicians and so many journalists
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Speaker 2: believe in something so stupid for so long that the
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Speaker 2: unproven green hydrogen would save Whyala was it because it
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Speaker 2: sounded nice and sweet and woke, But stupid ideas really
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Speaker 2: do have consequences. And Whyala is now the ugly proof
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Speaker 2: Joining me every Tuesday is the National Center of Matt Canavan,
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Speaker 2: the former Energy Minister. Matt. Before we get to Wayla, though,
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is just a scandal. Anthony Albaneese's press
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Speaker 2: conference today to announce it. Donald Trump had promised to
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Speaker 2: look at exempting Australia from tariffs on our exports to
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Speaker 2: America of steel and aluminium, but then Trump hitting us
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Speaker 2: with them anyway.
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Speaker 16: Your response, well, it's unfortunate for our country. I can
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Speaker 16: only hope that we do get that exemption. We've got
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Speaker 16: a month before they come into effect, and the President
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Speaker 16: has hinted that he may look at Australia, but we
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Speaker 16: yet to see if the Prime Minister's conversation has had
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Speaker 16: that effect. I agree with you that the Prime Minister
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Speaker 16: seems to have been late to the party here. Obviously,
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Speaker 16: he made very undiplomatic comments about the president, as did
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Speaker 16: his ambassador that he imported, Kevin Rother's ambassador. But why
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Speaker 16: hasn't he gone to the US. Why hasn't he gone
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Speaker 16: there for the inauguration or to mar A Lago as
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Speaker 16: other leaders have done, a very important partner of ours.
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Speaker 16: It's not clear what his engagement has just been a
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Speaker 16: phone call. I also agree with you too that he
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Speaker 16: should reach out to others in the Australian business community
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Speaker 16: and the wider community that can talk to the US administration.
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Speaker 16: I too and friends with missus Jenna Reinhart, but she
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Speaker 16: has nothing but a patriots She's an absolute patriot. She
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Speaker 16: loves this country, loves Australia, invested so much here. I'm
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Speaker 16: sure she'd be happy to help. But no one in
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Speaker 16: the government seems to be lifting out, putting out all
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Speaker 16: stops to stop these tariffs on Australian.
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Speaker 2: I guess they'd probably know that a contact Gene Aronaw's
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Speaker 2: going to give them a whole earfull on the idiocy
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Speaker 2: that is our net zero commitment. They probably want to
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Speaker 2: be spared the truth. But to Wayala, how much trouble
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Speaker 2: is it in?
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Speaker 1: Look, it's very sad, Andrew.
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Speaker 16: I think it's in a lot of trouble, and I
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Speaker 16: say that with much regret. It's a place that's very
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Speaker 16: close to my heart. I been there many times when
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Speaker 16: I was Resources Minister. I helped negotiate and pressure and
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Speaker 16: push Shadani to buy steel rails from Whaler to build
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Speaker 16: their Carmichael Mind rail line. Most mining companies don't use
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Speaker 16: austral and steel unfortunately, they go to the other places.
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Speaker 1: But a Dani did and that helped. If this facility
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Speaker 1: does close, if Waler.
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Speaker 16: Does close, it is the only place, only steel mill
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Speaker 16: in the country that we can produce steel rails, so
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Speaker 16: we will not be able to build rail lines anymore
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Speaker 16: in this country. And what an indictment and embarrassment that
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Speaker 16: would be given. We are the world's life just exporter
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Speaker 16: of iron ore and coking coal are the two ingredients
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Speaker 16: that go into making steel. And can I also out
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Speaker 16: on that front that the human toll here that no
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Speaker 16: one really speaks about much. There are four hundred coal
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Speaker 16: miners have already lost their job at the two Moore
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Speaker 16: coal mine near Wollongong that.
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Speaker 1: Feeds the Whaler Steel works.
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Speaker 16: But they're out of work at the moment seemingly because
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Speaker 16: the company here can't pay its bills. So there are
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Speaker 16: a real human impact here. And this is a consequence
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Speaker 16: of the government's misguided agenda here to pursue things that
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Speaker 16: just don't work. We know that hydrogen doesn't work right now.
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Speaker 16: There's seven major hydrogen projects around the country that have
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Speaker 16: failed just in the past two years, just while this
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Speaker 16: government has been in power. Instead of reflecting on that
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Speaker 16: failure and changing course, this government's doubling down on failure.
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Speaker 16: Last night, the hydrogen production tax credits are going to
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Speaker 16: do nothing to say Wallette Whaler, Nothing to save those
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Speaker 16: four hundred coal miner jobs.
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Speaker 1: Nothing to save the thousand or other jobs at Whaler.
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Speaker 16: If it is to end, we must save this state
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Speaker 16: steel because we must be able to produce steel in
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Speaker 16: this country. We only produce enough for half our needs.
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Speaker 16: As I say, with all that iron ore and coc
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Speaker 16: and coal, why aren't we using it to produce our
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Speaker 16: own steel needs.
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Speaker 2: I should also point out that the steel works are
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Speaker 2: getting a double whammy. Of course, it's not just the
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Speaker 2: failure of the green hydrogen scheme, but also of course
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Speaker 2: rising power prices. I mean, South Australia has got the
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Speaker 2: highest penetration of wind power in the country, and good
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Speaker 2: heavens above, Matt, it hasn't actually worked to lower prices
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Speaker 2: through a level that a company that uses lots of
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Speaker 2: energy needs. What a surprise. You will be stunned by that.
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Speaker 2: And because you're so stunned, I'm going to say goodbye
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Speaker 2: to you while you catch your breath at there's stunning
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Speaker 2: news that you never expected, never warned of a million times.
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Speaker 2: Matt Canaman, thank you so much for your time. It
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Speaker 2: is a disgrace, isn't it what has been done to
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Speaker 2: this country's fuel supplies, energy supplies. It's it just staggers
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Speaker 2: me to see idiocy on stilts for two decades. And
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Speaker 2: if you try to say, look, it's not going to work,
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Speaker 2: Oh what would you know? And these experts are leading
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Speaker 2: astray over a cliff. Donald Trump, he hit the roof today.
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Speaker 2: He warned Hamas the terrorist group in Gaza, release you're
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Speaker 2: remaining Jewish hostages by Saturday or else.
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Speaker 3: If all of the hostages aren't returned by Saturday at
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Speaker 3: twelve o'clock, I think it's an appropriate time. I would say,
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Speaker 3: cancel it, and all bets are off and let hell
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Speaker 3: break out. I'd say they ought to be returned by
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Speaker 3: twelve o'clock on Saturday. And if they're not returned, all
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Speaker 3: of them, not in drips and drabs, not two and
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Speaker 3: one and three and four and two Saturday at twelve o'clock,
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Speaker 3: and after that, I would say, all hell is going
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Speaker 3: to break out.
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Speaker 2: But us Terist group had in fact just said it
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Speaker 2: would delay the release of more of the hostages. Still
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Speaker 2: got seventy three of them, although half I believed dead.
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Speaker 2: It's excuse it claims it is rather's broken its agreement
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Speaker 2: on how much aid would be led into Gaza, among
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Speaker 2: other things. But is that the real story for this delay.
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Speaker 2: You see, Donald Trump has seen the same pictures that
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Speaker 2: I showed you last night. Of the last three hostages
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Speaker 2: released by Hamas are traumatized and thin and beaten, had
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Speaker 2: looked starved, as you can see from comparing how they
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Speaker 2: look now to how they looked when they were kidnapped
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Speaker 2: sixteen months ago. And this radio doctors said they've been
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Speaker 2: deliberately starved and tortured. And Trump said today this is
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Speaker 2: why Hamas could not afford to release any more hostages.
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Speaker 3: I looked at the hostages that came in and they're emaciated.
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Speaker 3: It looked like something out of the nineteen thirties. It's
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Speaker 3: an absolute disgrace. Looked like it was a concentration camp,
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Speaker 3: which is said essentially it was. It looks like they
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Speaker 3: came out of the Holocaust. What you see is probably
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Speaker 3: the best because they want to send people that look
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Speaker 3: at least healthy, and that's not healthy.
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Speaker 2: These people have been badly hurt. Joining me from Jerusalem's
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Speaker 2: Mark Sofer was Israel's ambassay to Australian also to India. Mark,
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Speaker 2: great to see you again, Thanks so much for your time,
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Speaker 2: Very grateful. It's Donald right that Hamas has gone cold
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Speaker 2: and releasing more hostages after seeing the shock around the
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Speaker 2: world about the condition of the last three it released
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Speaker 2: people who clearly brutalize, starved, and tortured.
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Speaker 17: Well, it's possible, but I'm not so sure. To be honest,
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Speaker 17: I think that Hamas as a terrorist organization, as a
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Speaker 17: group of killers, rapists and murderers, it doesn't go cold,
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Speaker 17: It doesn't get shock on very much of that or
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Speaker 17: how the international.
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Speaker 14: A plays out.
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Speaker 17: I think had they really wanted, or should they really want,
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Speaker 17: a major crisis of such proportions right now, they wouldn't
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Speaker 17: have announced the cessation of the release of us. It
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Speaker 17: is five days before the next round is supposed to
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Speaker 17: be released. The probably more likely or certainly possible to
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Speaker 17: take into account that they just want to improve the
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Speaker 17: negotiation position as we move into around two. These are
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Speaker 17: a group of bestial murderers, let's not forget.
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Speaker 14: And I don't think that they have thoughts of international
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Speaker 14: shock and issues such of that nature.
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Speaker 2: Well, Mark does does that leave the other excuse?
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Speaker 1: Then?
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Speaker 2: Is that right that Hamas says it's delaying further releases
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Speaker 2: because Israel hasn't lived in all the aid promise. Personally,
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Speaker 2: I think it's really weird, strange how a mass stats
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Speaker 2: of war but says it's it's enemies responsibly to feed
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Speaker 2: its people in the meantime. But is that is this
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Speaker 2: complaint true?
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Speaker 17: Well, I don't use an extractive deleted on your show,
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Speaker 17: but it's absolutely utter rubbish. Every single part of the
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Speaker 17: AID which was agreed upon has gone in. That's not
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Speaker 17: the reason at all, that's just what they're throwing out
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Speaker 17: into the international career arena. I think that they're counting
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Speaker 17: to a large extent on the shock in Israel to
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Speaker 17: exact more concessions.
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Speaker 14: They were looking at the emaciated.
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Speaker 17: Condition of the hostages that were released last Saturday, and
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Speaker 17: it's very likely that the ones that will be coming
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Speaker 17: out later will be even in worse conditions those that
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Speaker 17: are not in force in body bags. Sadly, I also
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Speaker 17: think Andrew that these are cynical killers and they just
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Speaker 17: want to prolong psychological terror of the people of Israel,
21:45
Speaker 17: but more especially of the families. It's just how to
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Speaker 17: cause as much damage as possible, and I don't it's
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Speaker 17: certainly nothing to do to do with the AID that's
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Speaker 17: going in, and nobody really wants to see uninvolved GUARSS starving.
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Speaker 17: I don't think that's in Israel's interesting. I think to
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Speaker 17: anybody's interest, it's not a humanitarian interest. But of course
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Speaker 17: it's not the reason. And I don't think we should
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Speaker 17: take Hamas' words for anything, but for the trash it is.
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Speaker 2: Now. I would also say that Hamas is key to
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Speaker 2: project strength over Israel to the people of Gaza, to
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Speaker 2: re establish its control. I think that's also a fact
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Speaker 2: that he looks.
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Speaker 1: It's possibly said.
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Speaker 2: Today all all hell is going to break loose mark
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Speaker 2: so for if the remaining hostages are not really spyed
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Speaker 2: noon on Saturday. He did add the caveat that that
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Speaker 2: dependent depended on whether Israel agreed why that caveat And
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Speaker 2: what is the Israeli government likely to say?
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Speaker 17: Well, the government, the cabinet is sitting right now to
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Speaker 17: discuss the latest employ the cynical employe of Hamas, and
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Speaker 17: there are a number of options. One of them is
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Speaker 17: returned to the hostilities immediate ORTERNTAL hostilits, but there are
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Speaker 17: other possibilities such as the closing of what's called the
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Speaker 17: ntsar In Corridor, which is the main corridor connecting south
23:03
Speaker 17: and into Gaza, and of course the cessation of movement
23:10
Speaker 17: of Palestinians from south and north Gaza, et cetera.
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Speaker 14: So it's a number of different possibilities on the order
23:16
Speaker 14: of the day.
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Speaker 17: But there is also I think we have to remember
23:18
Speaker 17: this enormous pressure inside of it on this is now
23:20
Speaker 17: facing the government. It's spaking its deliberations to move towards
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Speaker 17: stage two of the negotiations, especially after seeing the emaciated
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Speaker 17: conditions of the of the hostages and the and what
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Speaker 17: we would like to see would be even worse as
23:36
Speaker 17: we move down the line. And I think that this
23:38
Speaker 17: is compounded and to a certain extent by irresponsible statements
23:42
Speaker 17: by many of the extremists, some of the extremists in
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Speaker 17: ISA and including in the government, who have said that
23:47
Speaker 17: openly that they are not interested at stage two. And
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Speaker 17: all of this is a very complex situation is now
23:53
Speaker 17: coming together, and so Hamas is playing into all of
23:56
Speaker 17: the situation, and the government now has to make the
23:58
Speaker 17: decision where do we go, Where.
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Speaker 14: Does it go from here, go back to the conflict situation?
24:04
Speaker 17: Do we do everything still possible to get the hostages out.
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Speaker 17: There's internal politics at plays, external politics play, and let's
24:11
Speaker 17: never forget at the end of the day. We are
24:13
Speaker 17: facing not Australia, not Europe, not the United States, but
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Speaker 17: a group of cynical, bestial creatures called Hamas who will
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Speaker 17: thinking nothing about mass murder and killing and celebrate death.
24:28
Speaker 2: Yes, and in fact they publicly said they look forward
24:31
Speaker 2: to doing what they did in October seventh, again and
24:34
Speaker 2: again and again. That's one of the top officials. Mark
24:36
Speaker 2: so forha thank you so much for your time.
24:39
Speaker 14: Thank you.
24:41
Speaker 2: After the break, the Donald Trump sali really is. Boy,
24:45
Speaker 2: does this guy sap the oxygen from news everywhere else
24:48
Speaker 2: in the world. This is a Donald Trumps special on
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Speaker 2: US today, hitting Australia, terrence, threatening war on Hamas, the
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Speaker 2: most important bringing back the straws.
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Speaker 8: Number one trending.
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Speaker 2: Can you believe it? Well, let's look at this overwhelming
25:11
Speaker 2: Donald Trump style. I'll give you a brilliant example of
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Speaker 2: an order he gave today about those damn plastic or
25:20
Speaker 2: paper straws actually that we're forced to use now that
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Speaker 2: plastic ones a band. But for the moment, let's stick
25:26
Speaker 2: with this monstering that the US President gave to Anthony
25:29
Speaker 2: Albanesi this morning. Joining me is Tuesday regular Shaw on Space.
25:33
Speaker 2: It was Donald Trump's first White House spokesman shut space
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Speaker 2: is great to see you again. Our Prime Minister Anthony
25:40
Speaker 2: Albanesi finally gets his second phone call with Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: this morning. Trump tells him he'll think about exempting Australia
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Speaker 2: from the tariffs is slapping on imports of steel and aluminium.
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Speaker 2: Albanisi presents this as a triumph. Just a couple of
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Speaker 2: hours later, Trump signs an executive order saying the TYRFF
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Speaker 2: supply to everyone, no exceptions. Now our promise is suggesting
26:07
Speaker 2: you did get a concession from Trump. So to me,
26:10
Speaker 2: I don't know what you think. All he got was
26:12
Speaker 2: a challenge that Trump gives everyone. Make him an offer.
26:16
Speaker 2: He can't refuse your call.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, with all due respect for a politician that has
26:22
Speaker 6: been in office for as long as he has, I
26:25
Speaker 6: don't know where he was for the four years of
26:27
Speaker 6: Donald Trump. It was a rookie mistake to try to
26:31
Speaker 6: claim victory thinking that one phone call and a question
26:36
Speaker 6: was a victory. He learned the lesson the hard way.
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Speaker 6: And I think you know, it's probably a little embarrassing
26:41
Speaker 6: down Under when you make a promise to the America,
26:44
Speaker 6: to the Australian people, thinking that you got something, and
26:47
Speaker 6: then you turn around hours later and don't. He's new
26:51
Speaker 6: at dealing with Trump, and I think he'll learn. He
26:53
Speaker 6: might want to pick up the phone and find called
26:55
Speaker 6: Joe Hockey up and get some tips. But it's pretty
26:59
Speaker 6: obvious that he doesn't know Donald Trump. Well, this hopefully
27:03
Speaker 6: will be a quick lesson for him to learn. But
27:07
Speaker 6: you put it exactly right, Andrew Trump wants something in return.
27:11
Speaker 6: I don't know that there were going to be that
27:13
Speaker 6: many exemptions for aluminum and steel. But the idea that
27:16
Speaker 6: you thought one phone call was going to make nicey
27:19
Speaker 6: nice shows a bit of naivete on the Prime Minister's part.
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Speaker 2: Now another example of the Trump style today. I thought
27:27
Speaker 2: it was so instructive. I showed earlier Donald Trump giving
27:32
Speaker 2: Hamas a deadline of midday Saturday to release all remaining
27:36
Speaker 2: Israeli hostages by noon or el hell will break loose.
27:42
Speaker 2: Is that also a negotiating technical or really a genuine
27:45
Speaker 2: threat to go to war?
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Speaker 6: Well, there was something at the end of the phrase
27:49
Speaker 6: that he said that I thought was interesting. He said,
27:51
Speaker 6: but it's up to Israel, so it's sort of like
27:54
Speaker 6: I'm threatening you with somebody else's stuff. I think he's
27:58
Speaker 6: dead serious about this. He went off for a while
28:01
Speaker 6: about not wanting to see the onesies and the Tuesdays,
28:04
Speaker 6: although you know, any life that gets saved right now
28:07
Speaker 6: and released from hamas is welcome. But I think he's
28:10
Speaker 6: had enough and he wants to see more on that front,
28:13
Speaker 6: So I would not want to test him on Saturday afternoon.
28:18
Speaker 6: I think the broader point that I would take away
28:21
Speaker 6: from that after a few days of meeting with Prime
28:23
Speaker 6: Minister Net and Yahoo when he was here in Washington,
28:26
Speaker 6: is that Donald Trump, at the very least is going
28:28
Speaker 6: to tell Net and Yahoo, let's go whatever you need
28:32
Speaker 6: to do, go do it, get them back, and that
28:34
Speaker 6: should be equally as concerning.
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Speaker 2: I think my final example the Trump's style today another
28:39
Speaker 2: one of the latest bunch of executive orders he publicly
28:42
Speaker 2: signed in front of journalists like Joe Biden. If it
28:46
Speaker 2: would dare it small in world impact but big? I
28:50
Speaker 2: suspective American voters removing a largely point the screen uses
28:54
Speaker 2: from their lives and uses the strengths to li have
28:56
Speaker 2: to put up with. Federal agencies have been banning plastic straws,
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Speaker 2: making people use paper ones instead. Trump is now reversing.
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Speaker 1: The next This is an executive order relating to the
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Speaker 1: use of paper straws.
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Speaker 2: As you've consistently identified, nobody really likes paper straw number
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Speaker 2: one trending.
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Speaker 3: Can you believe in a paper show it is number
29:17
Speaker 3: one trending for three days or something.
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Speaker 2: The environmental impact of plastic straws versus paper straws is
29:23
Speaker 2: entirely unclear.
29:24
Speaker 3: So we're going back to plastics shows. These things don't work.
29:27
Speaker 3: I've had them many times, and on occasion they break,
29:31
Speaker 3: they explode if something's hot. They don't last very long,
29:35
Speaker 3: like a matter of minutes, sometimes a matter of seconds.
29:38
Speaker 3: It's a ridiculous situation.
29:42
Speaker 2: It's fascinating seeing Trump jump on an issue that you
29:45
Speaker 2: might think is so small. But I have to say
29:49
Speaker 2: I hate paper straws and single use plastic ones. A
29:53
Speaker 2: band almost everyone here too, everywhere here too. What do
29:56
Speaker 2: you make of this.
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Speaker 6: Three things number one theme? The overarching theme through everything
30:02
Speaker 6: that he generally does these days, from getting rid of
30:05
Speaker 6: the woke culture, banning men and women's sports, even the
30:09
Speaker 6: immigration stuff. It's common sense. It's not some kind of
30:13
Speaker 6: right wing partisan ideology of ideological thing that he's doing.
30:19
Speaker 6: All of this stuff makes sense. Nobody likes a paper
30:21
Speaker 6: straw Andrew, you included like it's just stupid and the idea,
30:25
Speaker 6: and he went on to joke about how you know,
30:27
Speaker 6: it's not like whales and sharks are eating plastic straws.
30:31
Speaker 6: It doesn't make any sense. And he brings us back
30:34
Speaker 6: to an area of common sense.
30:36
Speaker 8: Number two.
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Speaker 12: You kind of alluded to this.
30:38
Speaker 6: But the gentleman on the left of the screen, his
30:41
Speaker 6: name is Will Sharf. He's the staff secretary. And the
30:44
Speaker 6: stack that he brings him every day. Think about what
30:46
Speaker 6: we talked about paper straws, Gaza. I mean, there's some
30:49
Speaker 6: appointments in there. You never know. It's like a deck
30:52
Speaker 6: of cards what you're gonna get right. And then the
30:55
Speaker 6: final thing about this is, I will tell you this
30:59
Speaker 6: for the first time. The other thing that he did
31:02
Speaker 6: in this and I just put it out on social media.
31:05
Speaker 6: In nineteen ninety one, Andrew, I was a junior in
31:07
Speaker 6: college and I did an internship at a federal agency
31:11
Speaker 6: and I wrote a paper on it about how much
31:14
Speaker 6: I hated my internship, and I got an a on it.
31:18
Speaker 6: That last executive order that he did was him eliminating
31:22
Speaker 6: that agency from the federal government.
31:26
Speaker 2: It's incredible, is it as it goes from the very
31:29
Speaker 2: big gesture to the small one. But there is a
31:32
Speaker 2: little cultural war issue going on right there, and it
31:34
Speaker 2: is a damn nuisance. I mean, the feel of a
31:37
Speaker 2: paper straw is appalling. I find it just amazing. This
31:40
Speaker 2: is going to revolutionize I think a lot of the
31:45
Speaker 2: style of leadership around the West. A lot of people
31:48
Speaker 2: looking at that and thinking, why can't we have some
31:50
Speaker 2: of that? Dere Shawn Spicer, always great to see you.
31:53
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time.
31:55
Speaker 14: See you next week.
31:58
Speaker 2: After the breaker heard he did mentioned his name get again.
32:01
Speaker 2: But Trump, Trump's fist mate goes for our journalists.
32:06
Speaker 4: You have the biggest I've ever seen.
32:13
Speaker 2: America is laughing at a media after a friend of
32:16
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, mixed martial arts entrepreneur donad White went off
32:20
Speaker 2: there Deep End in Sydney on Sunday.
32:25
Speaker 4: Listen for a place that is so tough and the people,
32:29
Speaker 4: everything on land in the water can kill you. You
32:33
Speaker 4: have the biggest I've ever seen in the media in
32:36
Speaker 4: my life. I saw a story where a guy was like,
32:39
Speaker 4: I saw Dana do a podcast with the premiere and
32:42
Speaker 4: it physically made me sick. Holy you guys have to
32:46
Speaker 4: have the biggest of all time in the media here.
32:51
Speaker 2: Do you wonder what we're bleeping out? Its reference to
32:54
Speaker 2: cats for a different word. White was here for a
32:57
Speaker 2: UFC fight that he do organize in Sydney and did
33:00
Speaker 2: a podcast with Mark Buris and New Southwest Premier Christians
33:04
Speaker 2: had given whites organization sixteen million dollars to bring the
33:07
Speaker 2: show to Sydney.
33:09
Speaker 9: I always loved boxing, I'm like you.
33:10
Speaker 8: I always loved it.
33:11
Speaker 9: Thought it was fantastic, but you never get the matchups,
33:15
Speaker 9: the absolute bouts that everyone wanted to see.
33:18
Speaker 8: And I saw what Dana was doing.
33:20
Speaker 9: I mean I probably jumped on during the Mendez McGregor era,
33:25
Speaker 9: saw it on television, thought it was awesome. I just
33:27
Speaker 9: got hooked from there. It was amazing.
33:31
Speaker 2: But what sent Dana White nuclear was that Sydney Morning
33:34
Speaker 2: herald ed it to bev and she was actually a
33:36
Speaker 2: nice guy. I said, watching men's use taxpayers money to
33:39
Speaker 2: glorify violence bringing over Dana White's show made him feel sick,
33:45
Speaker 2: and now he's gonevile around the world. As a that
33:49
Speaker 2: word I can't use, which is another word for cat joined. Mister,
33:52
Speaker 2: the panel will Kingston hosts The Far at Will, the
33:54
Speaker 2: podcast from the Spectator and Politics and Culture. It's going
33:57
Speaker 2: to his host to Niko di Georgio now with her
33:59
Speaker 2: own show here every Friday at five pm and excellent
34:02
Speaker 2: it is, too Will. I'm a former boxing writer for
34:07
Speaker 2: the Age newspaper and I've been known to a bit
34:10
Speaker 2: of martial arts myself when left is a tax industry,
34:13
Speaker 2: So please everyone don't call me a pussy too. I
34:17
Speaker 2: said that, but I think Bevin Shields has a point.
34:20
Speaker 8: Do you.
34:23
Speaker 12: Set out footage again asn't side No, I don't, is
34:27
Speaker 12: the short answer, Andrew. There's two questions there is is
34:31
Speaker 12: this smart use of taxpayer money? And then what message
34:34
Speaker 12: does it send? It's obviously a smart use of taxpayer money.
34:37
Speaker 12: UFC is one of the fastest growing sports in the
34:40
Speaker 12: world that investment from the New South Wales government will
34:43
Speaker 12: pay for itself many times over. On the message that
34:46
Speaker 12: this sends, on the broader point of glorifying violence, can't
34:50
Speaker 12: help but feel that the unspoken message from Bevin Shields
34:54
Speaker 12: is around elitism. This is the type of sport that
34:58
Speaker 12: the progressives across the establishment really hate. It's because Trump
35:03
Speaker 12: supporters follow it it's because you know, it is promoting
35:07
Speaker 12: more primal notions of masculinity. It's because they think that
35:12
Speaker 12: people who enter into it are too stupid to know
35:14
Speaker 12: what they're doing to their bodies. I have the same
35:17
Speaker 12: thought whenever Pedefits Simons gets on his pious soapbox about
35:20
Speaker 12: boxing every two seconds in the Sydney Morning Herald, where
35:24
Speaker 12: he goes, oh you idiots, you you know, philistine's how
35:27
Speaker 12: could you possibly be giving yourself concussions? As if they
35:30
Speaker 12: don't know the risk that they are taking. And it's
35:33
Speaker 12: the same thing here. This is fundamentally about the classicism
35:37
Speaker 12: that you see from so many of the snobbish people
35:40
Speaker 12: in high society in Australia today. I think it's nothing
35:43
Speaker 12: more than that, and I think it's a very very
35:45
Speaker 12: common attitude at places like the Sydney Morning Herald.
35:50
Speaker 2: Well, I'm a bit of eligiust myself. I've got to say,
35:52
Speaker 2: I mean, text bas money should be for what benefits
35:54
Speaker 2: of the community, but that it would include, from my opinion,
35:57
Speaker 2: funding say the Slim Dusty Museum. I think that would
36:01
Speaker 2: be fantastic. Give that more money. But help me out here, Denika,
36:06
Speaker 2: because I'm trying to do Bevin Shields a favor, but
36:08
Speaker 2: it's not working very well.
36:10
Speaker 15: No, it's not working very well. And look, I do
36:15
Speaker 15: I have to agree Andrew with Dana White's assession. I'm sorry,
36:21
Speaker 15: but I have to.
36:22
Speaker 1: I have to.
36:22
Speaker 15: And look, you're talking to a former reporter here. I
36:24
Speaker 15: used to be a reporter for this network. And I
36:27
Speaker 15: will say in terms of the fact that there are
36:30
Speaker 15: some very wonderful journalists in this country. But what made me,
36:35
Speaker 15: Andrew think, gee, we may have a bit of an
36:38
Speaker 15: issue here is during COVID. Now I'm a good West
36:42
Speaker 15: Australian and like me and my fellow Stan Gropers, we
36:45
Speaker 15: were locked out of the state for over twelve months
36:47
Speaker 15: by the former Premier Mark McGowan, and every day we
36:51
Speaker 15: had to wake up and be subjected to headlines and
36:53
Speaker 15: the West Australian newspaper like thank you State Daddy for
36:58
Speaker 15: keeping us safe. So that moment really changed my opinion.
37:03
Speaker 15: So I do think that there are certainly journalists in
37:06
Speaker 15: this country that are the word that we're apparently not
37:09
Speaker 15: allowed to say this evening, and I think that COVID
37:12
Speaker 15: really changed my view on a lot of things. But
37:14
Speaker 15: I don't have a problem with UFC coming here, it
37:17
Speaker 15: brings in money for the state, it's good for the economy,
37:19
Speaker 15: and I think that we need to look.
37:20
Speaker 14: At it like that.
37:23
Speaker 2: Well, I think you're absolutely right on the COVID point.
37:25
Speaker 2: But gosh, thanks very much to both of you. I'm
37:28
Speaker 2: cutting this this discussion short because I'll probably go viral
37:31
Speaker 2: as one of the people down to why it's having
37:33
Speaker 2: a go at now, thanks guys. Will I'm becoming seriously
37:38
Speaker 2: alarmed now by the way, speaking of that COVID thing
37:41
Speaker 2: is absolutely on point, seriously alarmed by the way politicians
37:45
Speaker 2: are out passing new laws restricting our free speech because
37:49
Speaker 2: they didn't do their job from the start to stop
37:52
Speaker 2: this obscene due hatred in the country. I mean today
37:55
Speaker 2: the new South Wales labor government I said it wants
37:58
Speaker 2: new laws to stop displays symbol when in fact, of course,
38:01
Speaker 2: as we know, the main sources of the due hatred
38:04
Speaker 2: are not Nazis but Islamic hate preachers and was the
38:07
Speaker 2: activists and Marxists and the Marxists left. I don't see
38:10
Speaker 2: any laws demanding a crackdown on their symbols, But the
38:14
Speaker 2: opposition was worse, demanding amendments including making protests pay for
38:19
Speaker 2: police protection if they protested on the same issue more
38:23
Speaker 2: than three times in the year. Now here's the thing,
38:26
Speaker 2: will This doesn't just apply to propalaty an activist. If
38:29
Speaker 2: you kept protesting ast a dictatorial state government, police could
38:33
Speaker 2: bankrupt you with their bills. So is this a good
38:36
Speaker 2: idea or a bad one?
38:38
Speaker 12: It's both. The related policies are terrible ideas. On the
38:43
Speaker 12: first point, you know, I just can't help but feel
38:46
Speaker 12: we are led by historical philosophical illiterates. But more than
38:51
Speaker 12: that that may be overreaging it well, led by people
38:53
Speaker 12: who just don't have any common sense. You do not
38:55
Speaker 12: get rid of an idea or an ideology by banning it.
38:58
Speaker 12: This is something we've learned over thousands of years of
39:02
Speaker 12: human history. You get rid of an idea by discussing
39:05
Speaker 12: it and debating it and putting it up against a
39:07
Speaker 12: better idea and then winning the argument. And for some
39:10
Speaker 12: reason in recent times we have these authoritarian regimes and
39:13
Speaker 12: regime is the right word. Across the West that seem
39:16
Speaker 12: to think, oh well, no, banning is the solution. It's lazy,
39:19
Speaker 12: it's wrong. It is against every single classical Western liberal
39:24
Speaker 12: principle that there is, and on the second point around
39:27
Speaker 12: banning about in prot or making protests harder. Well, this
39:31
Speaker 12: just again sounds like something that comes from an authoritarian regime,
39:34
Speaker 12: not a Western liberal government. This sort of stuff is
39:36
Speaker 12: so incredibly troubling, Andrew. I think it's pretty depressing, to
39:39
Speaker 12: be honest.
39:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of our safety measures is removed from us
39:45
Speaker 2: because other people are marching and our politicians don't have
39:49
Speaker 2: the guts to tackle some of the real issues that
39:53
Speaker 2: are motivating them and do something about the education. But
39:56
Speaker 2: what do you make of a Daneka.
39:58
Speaker 15: Well, I call them shut up laws, Andrew, because that's
40:01
Speaker 15: what they are designed to do. They're designed to shut
40:03
Speaker 15: people up and shut them up from talking.
40:06
Speaker 14: There's always this.
40:07
Speaker 15: Impulse when something happens to impose rules and regulations that
40:11
Speaker 15: then impose on freedom of speech. We saw it with
40:13
Speaker 15: those disastrous misinformation laws which went by the wayside alleged
40:17
Speaker 15: terrorist attack in Sydney happens, it's on social media, we
40:20
Speaker 15: better shut it down. Last week we also saw the
40:23
Speaker 15: minimum mandatory sentencing laws before Federal Parliament. It's the same
40:28
Speaker 15: notion there when in fact, as you mentioned, Andrew, we
40:31
Speaker 15: haven't seen a crackdown from authorities from police from any
40:35
Speaker 15: people that are meant to be keeping our country safe
40:38
Speaker 15: from the beginning, and now we're seeing chaos in the streets.
40:41
Speaker 15: It started on the steps of the Sydney Opera House
40:43
Speaker 15: days after the October seven massacre, and it's descended since then.
40:48
Speaker 15: Or why not crack down in the very first instance,
40:50
Speaker 15: why not impose penalties then not suddenly put rules in place?
40:56
Speaker 2: Yep, you know their failure. Our freedom's gone. I don't
41:00
Speaker 2: get it. And I think there's a really elegant way
41:03
Speaker 2: to solve some of this. Force protesters to obey the
41:06
Speaker 2: law against blocking the road and make them rally in
41:09
Speaker 2: parks and not in our streets. They can rally to
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Speaker 2: their hearts content in the park, not bothering people. I
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Speaker 2: think that'll be a wonderful solution, very easy if freedom
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Speaker 2: is still okay. Dinika to Georgio Wilkinston, thank you both
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Speaker 2: for your time. And Sky News, by the way, is
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Speaker 2: going to be hosting an anti SMUs summit on Thursday,
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Speaker 2: twentieth February Thursday Week organized by Sharry Markson. Has done
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Speaker 2: a fantastic job. The number of guests coming is just stunning.
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Speaker 2: Real tribute to her, and you'll be able to stream
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Speaker 2: for that one after the break. What's gone wrong with
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Speaker 2: councils when one is now hiking rates by eighty seven percent?
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Speaker 2: What is it with Sydney's councils? I mean, last month
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Speaker 2: it was the Northern Beaches Council voting to increase rates
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Speaker 2: by an amazing forty percent after all kinds of mismanagement,
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Speaker 2: like a back path just one and a half minutes long,
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Speaker 2: costing three times more than expected, three million dollars still
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Speaker 2: not finished. Now it's not Sydney Council. Well, it's even worse.
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Speaker 2: Last night it voted to increase rates by eighty seven
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Speaker 2: eighty seven percent over two years, despite huge opposition from ratepayers,
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Speaker 2: some protesting yesterday. Why didn't I tell us about that
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Speaker 2: before the election?
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Speaker 17: Most people he can probably afford it, but there are
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Speaker 17: probably fair few of the character.
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Speaker 13: As long as it's pay used for stuff that's going
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Speaker 13: to be helpful in the area, then that's great and
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Speaker 13: it's justified.
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Speaker 8: But if it's not, then there.
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Speaker 2: I mean, some are blaming another bungled project, the redevelopment
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Speaker 2: of the North Sydney Olympic Pool projected costs blew out
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Speaker 2: from around thirty million dollars to get this four times
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Speaker 2: as much, joined me as Brian Marlow, president of the Strength.
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Speaker 2: What explos Alan's great to see you, Brian. How can
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Speaker 2: counsels end up having to raise rates by forty percent
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Speaker 2: in one council eighty seven percent in another?
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Speaker 18: Well, I mean, this is what happens when you allow
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Speaker 18: counselors to just become these giantomorphous blobs that are almost
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Speaker 18: responsible to no one and just abuse rate payer money.
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Speaker 18: The obvious solution is that you need to get in
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Speaker 18: there and you need to slash and burn. And it's
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Speaker 18: very simple. You need to have a spine. You need
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Speaker 18: to go in and go okay, is your job related
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Speaker 18: to roads rates or rubbish? And if the answer is no,
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Speaker 18: take a hike and get out. For some reason, when
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Speaker 18: we were promised you know, rate cuts, I think it
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Speaker 18: was almost ten years ago with amalgamations that didn't happen.
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Speaker 18: Rates went up. So the question has to be asked,
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Speaker 18: how do you actually solve this? And I think what
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Speaker 18: we've been calling for is that you need effectively, you know,
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Speaker 18: a doze here in Australia that doesn't just apply federally.
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Speaker 18: That also applies at a local government level as well.
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Speaker 18: If your job's not related to roads, rates and rubbish,
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Speaker 18: you've got to get out.
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Speaker 2: Those being the body set up by Trump. And here
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Speaker 2: we go, still Trump and run by Elon Musks to
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Speaker 2: cut waste and cutting a sway through the American bureaucracy. Look,
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Speaker 2: you touch on something there. It's true. It is a
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Speaker 2: fact of government that when you create a bureaucracy, its
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Speaker 2: instinct is to grow. As you say, nine years ago,
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Speaker 2: New Southwest Premium make Bed amalgamated three small councils to
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Speaker 2: create this Northern Beaches one, and he promised it would
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Speaker 2: saved money on staff, cut duplication. Instead, it now spends
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Speaker 2: forty million dollars a year more on staff than the
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Speaker 2: three councils before it did combined, or when you allow
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Speaker 2: for inflation, it's five million more, but around the same
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Speaker 2: number of stuff. So what is the answer, Apart from
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Speaker 2: just appointing an Elion Musk, what can we do well?
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Speaker 18: I think rate payers need to also hold their councils
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Speaker 18: more responsible. We've seen a lot of cases where people
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Speaker 18: have been quite ambivalent about who they vote for when
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Speaker 18: they vote at a local level, so you end up
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Speaker 18: with these sort of teal light climate caarns that form
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Speaker 18: council and they start pushing all these stupid policies that
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Speaker 18: have nothing to do with the basic role of council.
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Speaker 18: And you know, you'll see some councilors that are trying
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Speaker 18: to enact some kind of you know, anti BDS system
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Speaker 18: against Israel in the Inner West, or going completely out
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Speaker 18: of their scope to just abuse rate payer money and
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Speaker 18: create this blot that almost seems unsolvable, but it's not hard.
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Speaker 18: You do need someone that can come in and just say, actually,
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Speaker 18: if your job doesn't relate to the three basic metrics,
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Speaker 18: you're out. And separate to that, rate payers actually need
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Speaker 18: to be more involved with who they vote for and
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Speaker 18: be more aware of who they're voting for. So if
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Speaker 18: you're voting for a you know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I think that's absolutely true. There
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Speaker 2: probably needs to be some sort of charter of what
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Speaker 2: councils can and can't do that's formed. And also, I mean,
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Speaker 2: there is some cost shifting from state government, so let's
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Speaker 2: not ignore that. But on that point, in all than Beach
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Speaker 2: Council splashing cash on diversity programs, on a climate program,
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Speaker 2: on Indigenous Heritage, Office on Climate Change Strategies, money for
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Speaker 2: environmental education, blah blah blah. Absolutely no wonder that we've
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Speaker 2: got this, Miss Brian Marlowe, thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: your time. But now one last thing. Parliament today said
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Speaker 2: goodbye to a politician who It was a kind of
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Speaker 2: politician that people that hate politicists say don't exist. It
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Speaker 2: was a man of courtesy and kindness, a patriot with
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Speaker 2: a sense of duty. Kevin Andrews died last de summer
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Speaker 2: when I was off fair just going off here and
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Speaker 2: couldn't say I owned goodbye here. He was a Liberal
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Speaker 2: politician for more than thirty years see the Mensis in Victoria,
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Speaker 2: and a minister of many portfolios defans, immigration, social services,
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Speaker 2: employment and more. He was a man, you might recall,
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Speaker 2: thought that the Liberals are going nowhere under Malcolm Turmo.
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Speaker 2: No one's got the courage to put up their hand.
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Speaker 2: I'll challenge him and then maybe someone else come out
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Speaker 2: out of the woodwork, and Tony Aviad did so. That
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Speaker 2: was the kind of bloke he was. No one was
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Speaker 2: more diligent in his official duties, and few were as effective.
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Speaker 2: He also had courage you know, he said, with immigration,
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Speaker 2: we cannot afford to take people from in that case
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Speaker 2: Africa until we know how to properly integrate those that
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Speaker 2: did copped enormous abuse. But he was right, the last
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Speaker 2: one who dared say that. But there's much more than
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Speaker 2: that to Kevin Andrews, as a former race caller and embarrasser,
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Speaker 2: also volunteered, volunteered as a marriage councilor with his wife Margaret,
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Speaker 2: and raised money for charity quite often with the bike
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Speaker 2: rides Polypedal and things like that, and wrote books on
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Speaker 2: traditional marriage, one that he sent me on a former
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Speaker 2: premise to Joseph Lyons, really good monograph and more, and
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Speaker 2: it's so much. He was inspired and guided by his
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Speaker 2: Catholic faith. I think this is important, one of the
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Speaker 2: keys to his life. Proof of course that you know,
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Speaker 2: religion can guide people in ways that I think we
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Speaker 2: all end up grateful for. He was also man of love,
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Speaker 2: as the man who replacements of men for MENSI Skith
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Speaker 2: Wallahan said so beautifully to Margaret today recalling how he
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Speaker 2: saw Kevin not long before his death, frailed but dancing
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Speaker 2: with his wife.
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Speaker 19: You didn't see it, Margie, but his face was beaming,
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Speaker 19: his eyes were closed, he was content, and he was
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Speaker 19: gently holding you. The mark of the man was the
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Speaker 19: love of you, his wife, Veil Kevin Andrews. You were
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Speaker 19: a parliamentarian and a patriot, but most of all, you
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Speaker 19: loved and you were loved.
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Speaker 8: May he rest in.
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Speaker 2: Peace, a loving man in love with his wife. That's
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Speaker 2: it from me now, Sharry Markson and Sharry, I'm so
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Speaker 2: sorry I've eaten into your show. I missed time that