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Pastor's Perspective on Church and State Issues · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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I want to kick off with a scripture from 1 John chapter 1.
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Versus 5 through 7 says,
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this is the message we have heard from him and announced to you that God is light.
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And in him, there's no darkness at all.
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If we say we have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.
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But if we walk in the light, as he himself is in the light,
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we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus, his son,
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cleanses us from all sin.
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First, John 1, 5 through 7.
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Today's guest, Pastor Carl Gallips, we're getting a pastor's perspective on some recent events.
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He's been the senior pastor of Hickory, Hammock, Baptist Church, and Milton, Florida.
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Since 1987, I know some of you in our audience, it's before you were born.
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He's the best-selling author, host of a relevant word with Pastor Carl or Pastor Gallips.
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And that's on Gulf Coast radio.
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He was also a former Florida law enforcement officer.
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And he's done a lot in his short life so far.
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Welcome to Worldview Matters, Pastor Carl Gallips.
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Hey, brother.
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Hey, David, listen.
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It's great to be with you.
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And I love the name of your show.
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I preach on this all the time.
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I'm always saying that.
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Biblical Worldview Matters.
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It's amazing, but just last Sunday, I preached on Biblical Worldview.
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But, boy, that's a deep topic now, isn't it?
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Well, it is because it continues to decline in the United States of entertainment.
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So, unfortunately, it's getting less and less and less.
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Christians are seemingly not learning and not being equipped at churches,
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and they're not doing it on their own.
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And we know even the Biblical Worldview of pastors is like 41% of pastors.
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It's just outrageously awful.
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Yeah.
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So, we've got a lot of work to do, but that's why we do shows like this.
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People like you to come on.
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And I just thank you for your time.
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We need to catch up.
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I think it's been at least a year since we talked.
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We do.
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That would be your fault.
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Good to see you.
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Well, I've had a little transition in my life, but it's good to see you, brother.
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So, before we get to some of the topics, the circus in Washington, D.C.,
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and the Biden crime family, and we'll talk about the Trump trial,
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and Andy Stanley, the apostasy, the compromise in the church.
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But let's talk about your recent book, Briefly.
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It's called The Yeshua Protocol, and I want to start off right off the bat,
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Pastor Carl, really fascinating look and cover.
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I know there's a description on the back cover.
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I can't read the whole thing right now, but just a basic overview.
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What does the title mean, especially that word protocol?
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The Yeshua Protocol.
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Tell us about it.
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Yeah, thank you.
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Well, first of all, I've been blessed to be with a major publishing company,
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Defender Publishing.
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I've written 13, 14 books.
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I've ghost written other books for best selling authors.
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Their books have become best sellers.
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I was blessed to be in the top 60 Amazon bestseller authors on Amazon,
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Amazon I just said that redundant.
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But anyway, so that has given me the opportunity.
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It's opened up the world to me.
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So much media and conferences and things like that.
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So, Yeshua Protocol is my latest one.
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I have another one coming out sometime next year.
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But anyway, Yeshua, of course, is the Hebrew word for Jesus, if you will.
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That's how we would say it in English.
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So it's in the protocol, of course, military has protocol,
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medicine has protocol.
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Protocol just means a set of regulations, rules,
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an operating procedure that is for that particular thing,
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whether it's the military of the government or medicine or schools, etc.
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Well, Yeshua has a protocol, of course, it's the whole word of God.
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But He also, He is in the process.
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The Lord God is in the process of revealing mystery after mystery
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because we're in the last days.
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I mean, we're in the most prophetic time since the first coming of Jesus Christ.
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I don't set dates, but I mean, we just really are.
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And the book proves that from the scriptures and then from today.
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So the point is, when I say revealing mysteries,
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I don't want people thinking that I'm some kind of, you know,
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looking for an adventure in the Bible and making something up.
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Everything I write, people that have read my books, they know,
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it's documented by scholarship, by headlines,
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by biblical word studies, I dive deep into stuff,
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but yet I keep it at a level that almost anybody can understand it.
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And I'm not talking down to anybody.
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I just mean, I want a tenth grader to be able to pick it up and get it.
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And then a PhD that reads it and says, wow, I didn't know that before.
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That's amazing.
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So that's how I try to write.
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And the Lord seems to have given me that gift.
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And so this book is about, listen, I've got 41 illustrations in this book,
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41 and it's going crazy all over the world.
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I'm revealing things that most of the world has never seen,
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but it's in the Word of God.
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Some people have seen it.
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I'm not saying I'm the only one that found it.
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I am not saying that, but I'm saying I'm taking things
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that either the classical scholars knew and have seen for centuries
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or either people in our own day are finding,
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but they don't have the blessing I have of having total media and access
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to publishers and stuff.
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And I'm just making it public and I'm putting illustrations
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and I'm explaining and I'm teaching and it's changing people's lives.
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I mean, it really is.
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Our offices get flooded with emails all the time.
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So that's a quick overview.
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One little thing I'll say, in a lot of my books,
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I write narrative sections.
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In other words, it's like watching a movie.
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I will immerse you in the days of Jesus,
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in the days of the disciples.
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You'll hear them speaking and all this comes out of the scriptures.
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I have to fill in a little bit and I describe that,
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but I don't go outside the Word.
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It's historical fiction, but yet it's right from the Word of God.
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So it's accurate.
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It's doctrinally sound and so that way you're there.
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You feel it.
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It's like you're watching a movie of it or you're in the crowd.
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And so I do that in this book too for about 10 or 12 chapters
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and then we get into what's happening in the world,
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what the Bible says and the mysteries that God's revealing today.
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Let's talk about what's happening in the world
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because one thing I wanted to ask you from your book,
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you say that there are a number of scholars
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and some respected biblical websites that say the Bible
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doesn't talk about the explosion of technology in the last days,
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like transportation, communication, scientific,
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like technology, yet you strongly believe otherwise,
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which I do too.
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You demonstrate the importance of this in your book.
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Can you give us a little taste sample of what you talk about
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regarding technology from the Bible?
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Yeah, I can and I really take a deep dive into this
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because it's maddening to me when I hear
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born-again believers, conservative born-again believers say that.
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And I'm not here to disparage anyone,
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but there are several websites and several commentaries
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that people would know and I could say them,
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but I read and they say,
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no, the Bible has nothing to say about technology.
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That's a bunch of who we, you know, and I say,
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what have you ever read the scriptures?
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Have you ever read them?
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Do you understand the Hebrew words and the nuances
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and how about the Greek words and the nuances?
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Have you ever read the book of Revelation?
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Yes.
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Where it talks about, you know,
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the Satan giving power to this beast system
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calls down fire from heaven,
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called it makes images live and breathe and move.
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Well, we're into that now with AI and quantum computing
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and, you know, firing hellfire missiles from drones
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that are communicated by satellite,
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called down by military.
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And we don't know that that's exactly
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what Revelation's talking about.
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It could be something more than that,
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but the bottom line is we're the first generation
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that can say, oh yeah, we've got that stuff now.
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And nobody laughs at us anymore.
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10, 15, 20 years ago, people thought that was science fiction.
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And then it says, and he causes the whole world to take a mark.
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The whole world?
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Everybody?
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Yes, because you cannot buy or sell or eat or try.
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Well, how are you going to know who's not taking?
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And who is?
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How are you going to keep up with that?
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All of that requires massive technology
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and we have it all right now.
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We can, but all right now, David.
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And so no generation before us,
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we're living in an exponential explosion.
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And by the way, this is documented on the website,
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on websites too, professional websites,
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scientific websites, technology websites,
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the exponential explosion, 10,000 years of human history.
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And the line's going like this.
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It's going up a little bit.
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And then in 1948, Israel's back in the land,
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1950 technology went, shh, and it's still going up.
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That's the coincidence.
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It's coincidentally connected to the return of Israel,
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which is an hour clock turned upside down saying,
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okay, you've got this much time before I get all to a close.
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Israel, back in the land, is God's timer.
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He says that throughout the Old Testament.
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So yes, technology is, and I can talk about this for hours.
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Let me hush right now, but my book talks all about this.
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I do deep dive words to studies.
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Daniel chapter 12 verse four, in the last days,
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people would be going too and fro over the face of the earth
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and knowledge will increase.
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Well, when you know the nuances of those words
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and how the Old Testament uses those words in other places,
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here's how it really reads.
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And I show this clearly in my book, scholarship backs it up.
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It says uncountable multitudes will be traversing the entire globe
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and technology will exponentially explode.
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And that is how you'll know you're in the last days.
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That's what it says.
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Yes, friends, by the way, you can get that not alone.
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Amazon, but at Carl gallops.com, it's the Yeshua protocol.
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If you want to look into the book a little deeper
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and take a deep dive into it.
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But we've almost got to take a break already, Carl.
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I did want to mention since we talked about technology,
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the fifth circuit court has just ruled that President Biden
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cannot censor speech on social media platforms.
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And I'm going, OK, they've had their marching orders
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for decades since the Obama administration.
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And the Biden administration, they've been censoring speech
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on social media.
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Big tech will continue.
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But now the Biden administration is ordered
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to stop contacting social media companies earlier this year
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than the White House disagreed with the opinion, of course.
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And argued it is necessary for the federal government
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to censor speech online.
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And anyway, the judge, in this case, Carl,
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said the administration's behavior
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is the most massive attack against free speech
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in the United States history, your thoughts.
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It is.
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Yeah, no, it is.
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And your thoughts about the wink, wink aspect of it
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I agree with.
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Yeah, I mean, because the thing is,
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is if those tech giants have any feeling at all
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or they know something we don't know
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about how this next election is going to go.
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And if they thinking or feeling or know
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that it's going to go in their favor,
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then they're just going to be quiet and slicker than ever
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about it.
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They're going to keep doing it because they know the powers
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that be will back them up and support them.
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The thing though that I am enjoying so far
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and taking some hope in and praying that maybe God
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is working in the prayers of His people over things
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like this is that there have been so many court cases now
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and so many orders like this.
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And people being sued and companies being sued.
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And people that is talking about going to jail
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and huge fines that these tech companies are,
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they have held back.
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I've noticed they really have.
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Listen, I got kicked off of several back
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when I was quoting CDC information during the time
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when the government was saying follow the science,
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follow the science, is it okay?
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So I went to the CDC, quoted them back,
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back editions of the CDC as well as current.
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And I got kicked off and that's false information.
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And I wanted to write back and say,
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but it's the CDC, but I was kicked off so I couldn't.
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So yeah, I know how vicious and egregious this is.
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And I think I think that judge is right.
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Yeah, misinformation, right, Pastor Carl?
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We've got these misinformation.
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It's information.
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Yeah, and we've got to take a break.
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What they're doing is communist policy in America.
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When you censor one side or censor speech
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and then put out your talking points,
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your propaganda, that's communist policy.
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We've got to take a break.
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We'll be right back on World View Matters
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All right, guys, we've got to continue these topics here.
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Get a pastor's perspective.
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Pastor Carl Gallops was a law enforcement officer in Florida.
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And I wanted to ask him about this one.
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Los Angeles, just, gosh, talk about lawlessness in our country.
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That's prophetic.
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Lawlessness will increase.
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LA enacted a controversial zero bail policy.
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I got this at the Daily Wire.
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It's eliminating set cash bail amounts
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for suspect criminals accused of misdemeanors
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and specific nonviolent felonies.
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And that took effect in LA County.
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It's going to be challenged in court, but Carl,
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your thoughts on this, where is this going to lead?
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Yeah, yeah, my thoughts on this.
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Do I have two hours?
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Yeah, no, okay, I know I don't.
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You're a pro condense it.
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Yeah, the Bible's clear in these prophetic times.
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When I say last days, I'm not setting dates.
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I'm just saying that we're the first generation
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to see all of the prophetic that the Bible speaks of
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that has to happen before the return of the Lord.
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We're the first generation to see it all converge at once.
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So we're there.
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Now, if that's decades from now or 100 or 200 years from now,
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I don't know, but I'm just saying, yes,
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lawlessness will increase.
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Truth will be thrown to the ground.
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Plus, a derangement of mind syndrome will sweep the earth.
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He will give them over to their deranged, depraved minds.
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You know, the sexual perversion will increase.
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Jesus said that.
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He said, be just like the days of lots.
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Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Noah, it'll be just like the days of Noah.
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So all of this is happening.
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It seems like the world has turned upside down,
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but I want your viewing audience to understand.
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The biblical world view is this.
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We are living in Satan's world.
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So Satan's world is acting like God's word told us.
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Satan's world was going to act our place.
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We are ambassadors.
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We are ministers.
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We are priests, a kingdom of priests.
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We are the voice of God, the holy word place of God,
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the church, the born again, the Ecclesia.
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So now we get to this issue in California with no bail.
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Well, I worked under two different sheriff's offices,
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under three different sheriffs as a patrol officer
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and did criminal investigations
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in one of those departments, quite a few actually.
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So I've got a lot of experience.
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They're almost 10 years.
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And I can tell you, the bail system
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is essential to law enforcement
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and to maintaining some kind of peace and sanity
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in our culture.
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Could there be bail reforms, logical as the times move on
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and things happen?
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And yes, but to just say, you commit a crime, no bail.
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Well, what, what, I mean, you're telling people,
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run, flee, leave the country, get escape,
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or continue to commit crimes or hide or, you know,
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get out of jail free card.
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That is a depravity of mind.
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And a lot of these blue states
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that are inflicting these kinds of crazy laws
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are now paying the price.
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And people are fleeing those states, which is sad to see.
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But listen, there is a huge and has been,
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ever since we won the Revolutionary Wars,
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there were two of them, 1776 and 1812.
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Otherwise, we'd still be a part of the British Empire.
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Ever since those days, there have been evil,
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malevolent forces that are conspiring continually
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to bring this nation down.
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Now, there are global forces, different nations
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as well as from within.
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So none of this should be a surprise to us.
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We see it happening.
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So no, I think it's absolutely insane
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what they're doing in California and other places.
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What this kind of thing doesn't lead to more
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of the smash and grab we've seen
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where criminals just run into some stores.
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There are stores and companies going out of business
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in some of these cities because people are coming in,
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they might have a mask on, they're ripping off
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all kinds of, you know, products
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and they're just running out of the store.
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They're not being stopped.
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And so this is what this has come to.
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And I think what happened in 2020, Karl,
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with the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation,
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the Marxist-driven organization,
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what they were leading to.
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It was lawlessness.
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You mean the real insurrectionists?
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You mean those people?
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Yes, the real insurrectionists.
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They took over cities and police stations.
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And yeah, okay, go ahead.
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Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, defund the police.
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That's what could go wrong.
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Anyway, Karl, we've got to move on.
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We're already mang, my goodness, it's going by fast.
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I want to talk before we get to the low-hanging fruit
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of Andy Stanley.
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I want to talk about what's going on in DC
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with the Donald Trump trial.
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I just want to quote Charlie Kirk
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and allow you to share your thoughts
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on this really dangerous precedent that they're setting.
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And what's happening with not only a US citizen,
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but a former president, what they're doing.
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Charlie Kirk said Trump's New York fraud case
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was filed by AG Latita James under a clause
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that only allows for a bench trial.
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There was never an option to choose a jury trial.
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But even if there was a jury,
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here's, and then he just shares Trump's New York City
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judge Arthur Engron, Engron, explaining
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how he would overrule them if he happened
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to be feeling emotional about the case.
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So if he's feeling emotional, Karl,
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so we're not talking about facts,
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and we're not talking about laws being broken,
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it just basically depends on how you feel.
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So this is just really, it's crazy making
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to a lot of people in America who feel helpless.
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Whatever side of the alley you're on,
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this should not be happening.
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Go ahead and just, just share some sanity.
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I'm going to use some old words if you can.
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Yeah, I'm going to use some old words
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because I'm becoming an old man from my days,
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from my days, the people who are running the country
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are the former beatniks and hippies.
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I mean, that's who they are.
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And a lot of them are just godless.
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A lot of them have grown up and, you know,
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anti-America, hate America culture,
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even in families that way.
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And here they are.
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They're now all graduated from these ultra-liberal institutions
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as they were infiltrated.
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They became that way.
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And they've got PhDs and master's degrees
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and certifications and their lawyers and their educators
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and their scientists and their government officials
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and politicians and they're running the nation
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and they're running it just like they were trained to run it.
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And that's what we're watching happen, my friend.
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And I agree with your assessment of this.
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It's a dangerous precedent to arrest and take a president
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to jail, take his mug shot and threaten to put him in prison.
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That's third world.
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That's one of the things that separated America
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from everybody else.
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We've got ways of punishing political wrongdoers,
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even severely, but to go that step,
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not only is it horrible.
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And I would say this, if it was a Democrat,
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there were Democrat presidents before Trump
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that people were saying, put him in jail, put him in jail.
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And I would say, and some people got mad at me,
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but I would say, look, there are ways to punish
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that president, but do not put them in prison.
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I mean, do not do that unless you want to look
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like a banana republic.
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Well, abide by the law.
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I mean, there should be a lawful trial
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for people like Biden, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden.
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Fair trial.
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But yeah.
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No, Hunter's not a politician.
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So he's a little moving.
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Oh, okay, he's skating.
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But if his name was Donald Trump, Jr.,
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I think it'd be a different story, he wouldn't skate.
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But Carl, we know there's a two different systems.
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When it comes to whether you're on the left or on the right,
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they are above the law.
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If they're liberal Democrats or Marxists,
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they are above the law.
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Unfortunately, that's the country we're in.
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We've just got five minutes left.
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I want to get to Andy Stanley,
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because in the church, it's confusing a lot of people.
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He held a conference, and he's got a big church down,
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I believe it's Atlanta.
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The unconditional conference, instructing pastors
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to celebrate and affirm LGBT congregants.
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So here's the debate that doesn't seem to go away.
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Can you be a gay or lesbian Christian?
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Go ahead, Carl.
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Thank you.
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It goes to the title of your whole show.
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It all depends upon what biblical were of you
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you're coming from.
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Just because you have a building with a cross
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or a steeple in stained glass windows
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does not mean God has to show up there.
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Where God shows up, he inhabits the praise of his people.
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He said, those who worship me in spirit and in truth,
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people say, what's that?
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Well, the opposite is you can worship him in flesh and falsehood
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or in spirit and truth.
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That gets to the biblical worldview.
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Listen, I don't know Andy Stanley personally and you
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and I were not here to bash him,
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but he's in the headlines.
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His name is and the things he's been saying.
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And they don't seem to be they don't seem to be congruent
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with the word of God in a biblical worldview.
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And that's not just my interpretation.
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Even he admits that the New Testament has a worldview
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of one man, one woman married together before the Lord
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as a marriage.
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He says, but some people just can't seem to go that way
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and they can't that doesn't work in their life.
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So we have to make room for them, but wait a minute.
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That's not what the word of God says.
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Now, the balance and the balance we strike in our church
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is this, God loves you just the way you are.
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You're welcome in this place,
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but he will not leave you just the way you are.
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That's right.
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Yeah, so he will bring you by the sanctification process
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if you're born again into line with his word,
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lovingly, sweetly, and the church should help that happen.
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So our doors are open.
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We tell this all the time to anybody
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who wants to come to a worship service.
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If you're there for the right reason,
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now if you create a ruckus, we'll put you out,
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we'll rest you if we have to.
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But if you're there to seek,
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and I'm just gonna say this anecdotally,
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I've been the pastor of this one church for 37 years.
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We have had quite a few over the years of homosexual people
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that have come, they've come with friends, family,
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they've come searching, they've come seeking.
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I have literally invested my life
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in some of these, my wife and I have.
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We've ministered deeply and made some big differences
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in their life.
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Some of them have been saved.
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Others, I've been asked by their family
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to preach their funerals.
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Several of them died from AIDS over the years
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and the family came to me to minister.
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We've never compromised the word of God.
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But we do accommodate the culture
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and all that word accommodate means is our doors are open.
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We want you here.
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We live stream.
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We speak the truth of God's word.
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We will not compromise the word of God.
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But if you're looking for that,
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you find love and respect here,
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but you're also gonna find the biblical truth.
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I wish that's what Andy was saying,
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but it doesn't sound like.
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No, thank you for defining accommodate
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because we can be accommodating
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but not compromising on what the Bible teaches about.
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Sin, that's the problem.
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You said, you know, they're welcoming
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and you're welcoming.
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We welcome anyone into our church.
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But you can't bring your sin in and continue to live
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whatever it is, whether it's adultery
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or alcoholism or gambling or drugs or homosexuality.
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You don't continue, by the way, Carl,
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there are some very accommodating
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and welcoming churches that hang rainbow flags
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outside the door on the side of the building.
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That's a very different accommodating or welcoming.
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That means that's assimilating.
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That's not the problem.
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They take the doctrine, the doctrine in the word of God
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and say, no, we're just gonna support no matter what.
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That's wrong.
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You're quick take on that before we have to wrap up.
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No, you're absolutely right.
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There's a big difference between accommodation,
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assimilation, and then compromise.
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And so our policy at our church is,
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we'll compromise the culture.
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What's the culture?
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Livestream, podcasting, all of that.
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Okay, we'll open the doors.
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We know people are hurting.
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We'll open the doors then,
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but we're gonna give them the truth of God's word lovingly.
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And then it's up to them.
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Yeah.
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Well, I just wanna mention,
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there's many articles out here on this.
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I recommend HarbingersDaily.com.
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HarbingersDaily as an article called,
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it's actually by Ken Ham at Answers and Genesis.
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It's called Andy Stanley Holds Unconditional Conference
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instructing pastors to celebrate and affirm LGBT congregants.
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That's over at HarbingersDaily.com,
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which is one of the sponsors of our show.
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please go to worldviewmatters.tv.
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Pastor Carl, we will have you back on.
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Thank you.
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I know we can get you to give a pastor's perspective
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on just about anything,
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because you've done radio for years, you're a pro,
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and God bless your brother.
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Thank you for your voice, and thank you for your time.
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God bless you, David.
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All right, thank you.
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All right, friends, next week, I just wanna mention,
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we've got JB Hickson, Seth Gruber,
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a troublemaker for the Kingdom of God,
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a pro-life speaker, very important voice.
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Seth Gruber and also Jay Seigert
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from the starting point project, and a lot more.
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But thank you guys again for your prayers,
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and for sharing the podcast.
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Wherever you listen or watch, we appreciate it.
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God bless you, and as always,
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keep speaking the truth about things that matter.