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HEADLINES: The Dark Side of the Moon, Adhesive Poop Bags, and the Great Chip Backfire · Nonsense with cj little and Jeff Parker

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  Just can't move my kids. Yes, and I like to cook for
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  them. I don't take a break from.
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  Cooking course you do. You're an amazing cook.
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  We did. Tri tip Oh yeah, I kind of told
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  my kids look, it might not be as good at home.
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  I didn't bring one of the big green eggs with me like I'm
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  doing on a little Weber like it'll be fine, sure, and it'll
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  be good, but not like amazing very primitive cooking
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  situation. Yes jealous devil charcoal that
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  I bring with me in a. Temperature.
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  Probe like I am insane. Anyway, I make these two Tri
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  tips for my children and I've talked them down a little bit.
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  Sandbagging it. You're saying this?
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  This is gonna be terrible. This is not gonna be what?
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  I wanna set expectations. I don't need to be.
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  Yeah, of course. And my oldest son, the first
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  piece of Tri that he takes a bite of and he says, Daddy, this
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  steak and does the chef's kiss thing.
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  And I was just so happy that that was how he responded to my
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  food. I was just like, all right, I'm
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  done. This is great.
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  I can. I can die happy now.
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  Quite. Pleased.
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  And now the other one's out of the will and it's just him.
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  I doubled them up. I doubled them up for sure.
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  Three. It was a It was a good win.
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  I was very happy with myself 2. The Apple Company presents a
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  truly terrible podcast. Welcome to Nonsense Season 4,
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  episode 22. I'm Jeff.
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  Parker. I'm CJ Little.
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  This is our take on the week's business, tech and entertainment
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  headlines. This time, Artemis 2 smashes
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  Apollo 13's distance. Record settled down, Jeff.
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  They went 1.6% farther. I wouldn't say smash.
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  Smashes it. Crushes it, obliterates it.
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  Fine. The fight for rural broadband.
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  Starlink's refusal to follow federal rules.
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  From the book of Elon, chapter 4, verse 20.
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  The Iron Law shall not bind the chosen.
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  You'd think the bead people would have read the book of Elon
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  before allowing him to be. Yeah, I mean, I think they know
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  the book of Elon. I think they know it's coming.
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  How US bans handed China's chip makers a monopoly.
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  Sure, China might have taken Park Place and Boardwalk, but
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  they're going to have to pry Mediterranean and Baltic avenues
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  out of our cold, dead hands. Jeff.
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  Was that a monopoly reference? What did you have me down as?
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  More of a Hungry Hippos sort of guy.
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  Chubby hippos. Yeah, that that that tracks.
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  I feel seen. Also a big story later this
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  week. Coding was only the beginning.
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  The next 5 industries facing an AIO overhaul.
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  Coming for you, plumbers. It's it's Metric System Day.
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  In most of the world, the metric system is the global standard.
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  It's perfect for simplifying and unifying measurements.
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  Across the world, only three countries still cling to their
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  backward ways, Liberia, Myanmar and the United States of
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  America. I didn't wake up today thinking
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  I was going to be defending the imperial system and that's not
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  how I want the state to go down, however, no.
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  There are. You go there are.
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  Here it comes. Here comes the defense.
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  Me you can. It's easier to do division by
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  two, those threes and fours with the imperial system and for
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  folks who don't embrace calculators, I I guess it
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  helped. Yes, it's beyond me.
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  All I know is the Canadians also use a mishmash of the Brits use
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  a mishmash. Of metric and imperial.
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  Imperial for like, what? When you buy beer.
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  Yeah, that's important. But but Rd. signs, I think too
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  look, just have let's ask the AGI what day the whole world
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  should just switch to metric and then we just do it because.
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  I, I mean an AGI for this. Why can't we just say Thursday,
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  Thursday, we're all going to? Switch and blame the AGI and you
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  just be like, well this is what the AGI said.
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  It's clearly all knowing, OK, I would support us all being on
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  metric. I feel like that is not
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  something to say it didn't work out well for Ford.
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  It's not going to work out well for us, but we should do it at.
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  This point in life, it's embarrassing.
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  We're so dependent on the imperial system.
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  There's not much that still use regularly uses the imperial
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  system, right? I mean all all US car
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  manufacturing has been metric for decades.
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  Behind the scenes, yes, but to our consumers and to students,
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  we're still teaching the imperial system.
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  This is lunacy. We also teach, you know,
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  cursive. But I do find it amusing when my
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  father-in-law, who's been in construction his whole life,
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  will come over to the house every now and again.
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  I'll be building something, you know, constructing something out
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  of two by fours. And I'm, I'm using centimeters
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  to measure things. And he just looks at me and just
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  shakes his head. And I'm like, oh, yeah, It's
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  like got 53 centimeters. And he's like, no, Just no.
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  How was your week going? Lovely.
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  Good my week's going great. We went to with end of spring
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  break so we went at the tail to Yosemite before the season
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  starts. The season doesn't get exciting
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  and Yosemite until mid-april. Why?
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  What makes it exciting? What?
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  What brings on the excitement? Everything opens sort of it's
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  when you can get reservations for the various campgrounds.
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  So everybody starts showing up mid-april and that's when it
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  gets really nuts. So this year they are getting
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  rid of their reservation system during the peak days, which is
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  going to make it even more interesting, so.
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  It'll just be a disaster I. Suspect it's going to be insane.
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  Why are they doing that? What's the benefit?
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  I don't really know why they if they just want massive chaos.
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  I mean, there's the whole conspiracy theories online.
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  Are you want massive chaos? So then the people go, oh clear,
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  we got to privatize the park system.
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  Good. Grief, I hope.
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  Not the the year is exciting, but the locals, I'll tell you,
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  are not excited about this because at least with
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  reservations you get some modicum of traffic control.
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  Yeah, sure. Without them, it just becomes an
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  absolute mess. I mean, we were, we went in out
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  of the park a couple times and at one point on, I think it was
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  a Friday, there was over a mile and a half of cars waiting lined
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  up to get in. Which is not good.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Fortunately, we'd have to wait in that, but we did.
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  We did drive by, but the camping there was excellent.
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  Springtime in Yosemite is my favorite because you have great
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  weather. I mean, it was like freezing
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  overnight, but warm, mid 70s during the day.
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  The falls are flowing absolutely bananas because you've got
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  maximum snowpack melting. Sure.
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  Lots of mist. My kids loved it.
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  I met a bunch of interesting folks, as I always do when I go
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  to these places. My favorite were a couple that
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  was driving from Baja to like, British Columbia or Alaska.
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  And I just loved their truck. I I love of the.
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  Freedom of that exactly. Like, you know, they're in their
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  20s and he had this this old like 80s Ford F-150 diesel with
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  a camper shell on it. And then I just looked at all
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  his kid, he had a dirt bike on the front and mountain bikes on
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  the back and he had surfboards on the top.
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  And I'm like, dude, you are, you are living.
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  Right. Yeah, you're doing it perfect.
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  And I gave him our camp spot when we left. 10 out of 10 it
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  was it was pretty awesome. They were they were definitely
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  fun. My kids enjoyed every minute of
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  it. They loved it.
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  We only saw a couple bears, which was always mildly
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  exciting. I tell them to to run faster
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  than their brother if they're chased by a bear.
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  Always. And I right amount of time for
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  like 4 or five days. And now we're back in in sunny
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  summertime Los Angeles. I've got no complaints.
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  Gorgeous here, stunning here. This is why we live here.
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  It's so beautiful. Yeah, but I'm here for the
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  taxes. I'm doing my civic duty good.
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  How about you, Lakers? Luka Doncic and Austin Reeves
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  are officially out for the remainder of the Lakers season.
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  Oh no. Following injuries sustained in
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  last Thursday's blowout lost. What happened?
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  Thunder They. Sprained a finger I hate when
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  the basketball players sprained a.
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  Finger and I wish that were the case.
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  Luka Doncic has a grade 2 hamstring strain.
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  He's out for four plus weeks. He is currently flown to Europe
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  to try to speed up his recovery. I don't know what they have in
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  Europe that they don't have here, but whatever it is go for
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  it and see what you can figure out because what we need you
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  back as fast as possible. Austin Reeves has the Grade 2
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  left oblique strain. He will be out for four to six
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  weeks and the playoffs start in two weeks.
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  That's not great. So somehow we have to survive
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  the first round without him. It just seems unlikely.
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  Well, I'm enjoying the Red Wings going from having the longest
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  streak of making the playoffs in the NHL to butting up on the
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  longest streak, not making the playoffs in the NHL.
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  So that's, that's been a fun, a fun swing of the pendulum right
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  there. All right, let's turn from
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  sports to our headlines, shall we?
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  Let's do it. Humanity finally returns to the
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  lunar sphere A. Sphere.
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  It's a disc, It's flat, right? 2 astronauts have finished
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  flying over the dark side of the moon, so now they have the
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  historic distinction of being the humans who have traveled the
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  furthest from Earth. They've also tested all the
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  systems needed for future lunar missions, validating life
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  support, navigation, spacesuits, communications, and other human
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  operations in deep space. OK.
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  So this is super cool. There's a subset of people that
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  are not interested in this at all.
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  Yeah. And I don't like those people.
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  You may jump ahead 5. Minutes Oh no, no, no, no, turn
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  it off go listen to Rogan or something else.
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  Don't even come back. You're we're not you're not
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  going to enjoy our time. I'm so excited about this now I,
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  as I mentioned earlier, I was in Yosemite when this Artemis 2
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  took off from from Florida. Sure I specifically and when I
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  camp, I don't like to have any connection with Internet.
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  I don't want to be connected to the outside world.
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  I really like to just enjoy the nature.
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  You're there to be in nature, of course.
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  And we did a little hike to a a suspended swinging bridge with
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  my kids. And I knew it was going to be
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  about the time the Artemis launched.
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  So I was constantly checking my phone to make sure we're in a
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  place that had 5G. And I watched the Artemis 2
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  launch with my kids on the side of a river, the Merced River.
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  Lovely. In the middle of nowhere and was
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  an awesome experience. Lovely.
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  Very cool. I suspect core memory, at least
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  for one of my kids. The other one, I don't know.
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  He's. He's.
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  He's to be determined, super fun.
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  This launch is extreme. Like, I haven't been this
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  excited about a launch since the space shuttle when I was a kid.
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  Like, this is so cool. Yeah.
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  And so unique. This is the first time
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  astronauts have left, oh, low Earth orbit.
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  Yeah, in 54 years. It was 1972.
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  Pretty crazy and the the amount of of information that you get
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  in documentation, not just from the astronauts, that's right.
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  And from NASA, that's obviously 100X or 1000 X more and better
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  than what we had 50 years ago, of course, but also John Q
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  Public. Higher res video, yeah.
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  And and the sound stage they're recording this all and looks way
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  better than you know, when the moon launcher was done in
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  Hollywood leather keep in LA production alive Now the the
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  John Q public video has been awesome.
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  Like I watched a video of someone on a flight somewhere
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  over Florida that watched the launch in real time happen out
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  their window from 30,000 feet. That was incredible.
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  That's cool. And the amount of photographers
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  set up kit that's really cool, not just, you know, shooting
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  from afar via basically a telescope, but set up kit on the
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  at the launch site to take pictures and video of the launch
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  itself. Really cool pictures.
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  Where they had to sit their cameras up like 2.
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  Days in advance and wrap them up and they.
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  You know, and it's really incredible.
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  So, yeah, it was fascinating to watch.
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  And then what? This what we get out of this,
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  right? So we we're not landing on the
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  moon with Artemis 2. We're going to go around the
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  moon and then slingshot around the moon.
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  So they were just at the dark side of the moon yesterday about
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  the time we were recording this. They're going to be roughly, I
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  think, 7000 kilometers from the surface of the moon, which means
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  the moon is going to look like, roughly the size of a basketball
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  held out at arm's length, Right. And they're going to see craters
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  that have never been seen with human eyes.
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  They've been seen with, you know, robotic cameras, sure, but
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  never with human eyes. Which means they get to see them
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  and the rest of us don't. Because on the robotic camera
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  things we all got to yes. So that's that's kind of an
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  expensive bit of tourism. Just keeping it from themselves.
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  They have named, I think they have already put in request the
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  name two of the creators, one yeah, after their capsule, which
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  is integrity and one after the commanders late wife Carol,
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  which cancer who died of cancer in 2020.
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  And I just think that is absolutely amazing.
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  Christina Koch is the first one to fly to the moon, building on
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  her record-breaking 328 days stay on the International Space
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  Station. So it's the first woman to fly
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  to the moon? Yeah, That's very cool.
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  Yeah. Victor Glover is the first
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  person of color to pilot a spacecraft toward the moon.
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  That's amazing. We've only had a very small
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  handful of people that have done this.
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  So yeah, this is an incredible elite group of folks to be in in
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  the company of. Jeremy Hansen is the first non
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  American. He's Canadian to ever journey
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  beyond Earth's orbit. Yeah.
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  And and the least popular of the Hansen brothers.
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  That's that's true. I'd never heard of them.
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  Free return. Figure 8.
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  The mission uses a free return trajectory, Yes.
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  If the engines fail after they head toward the moon, Earth's
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  gravity will naturally pull them back home without needing a
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  second burn. Added bonus, this is what we did
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  with Apollo 13 when they had the the oxygen tank ruptured and
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  exploded. Yeah, it's the similar
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  trajectory. Gravity combined with math is
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  cool. And yeah, to really good math.
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  Yeah. Also gravity, one of the few
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  things that is more sustaining is more long lasting than than
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  death and taxes. Gravity's gonna outlive both of
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  those things for sure. Not going anywhere.
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  For 41 minutes they had a blackout as they went behind the
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  moon. They had no Internet.
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  Yeah, which is very much like my house at any given time of day.
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  It's like going through the longest tunnel ever.
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  They This was not without an issue, though.
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  They did. Shortly after launch, the crew
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  detected a burning smell and it was coming specifically from the
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  waste management system. Which is that true?
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  Yes, at which? From the from the titanium from
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  printed toilet. From the from, from the poop
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  receptacle. I love that.
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  As a precaution, Houston asked the astronauts to quote commit
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  their use of the toilet. How do you do that exactly?
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  Well, that's the fascinating part where it's like, hey guys,
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  you're going to be home in a couple days, just hold it right?
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  Like what's the big deal? So these systems, because
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  obviously you're in a place where there it's not that there
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  is no gravity, but but effectively you're weightless.
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  Special toilets for men and women?
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  Yes, you can use the same toilet.
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  Yes. So they work on on suction and
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  ventilation to handle liquids and solids in these these weird
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  microgravity worlds. And any anomaly in those can
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  affect both comfort and in this case, safety of the internal
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  environment, which is a very nice way of saying, sure, you
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  don't want your bee in your poop floating all around the capsule.
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  That would be bad. In the case of Orion, the system
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  presented not one, but at least two failures that we know of.
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  The first one the crew was able to resolve, but soon after the
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  toilet developed some additional problem.
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  NASA engineers suspect that the most recent failure may be due
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  to quote ice blocking one of the pipes.
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  Oh my. And I, I just, I think it was
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  easier than when I think that answer was easier when we had to
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  just worry about the recent astronaut and science skeptic
• 12:42
  Butch Wilmore plugging the based toilet pipes, which I think is
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  what happened in the ISS. Maybe getting him back So, you
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  know, at least the ice is a better explanation.
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  The good news is they have backups for this.
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  This is not a a critical risk to the mission.
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  There are 17 restrooms on on this on this flight they just
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  went, which is nice. I mean this I don't wanna.
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  Go to the all gender restroom, Fine.
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  Back over the wing. No.
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  So as it turns out, a space toilet is like a perk, right?
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  It's like you're you're in the first class cabin, sure, but it
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  is not a necessity. They have a backup, and the
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  backup is basically the same thing they did during the Apollo
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  era, which is they just pee out the window and problem solved,
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  no? Actually, that was urine
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  floating around in the capsule. Yeah, there's a long story about
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  that. But yes, they had urine floating
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  around freely. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I was gonna, I was gonna keep that.
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  Yeah, well, I was gonna not talk about that one and try to keep
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  what listeners we still have. No, they actually have bags with
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  adhesive seals for solids. Sure.
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  And then they have these like funnel like devices that are
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  connected to small bags for liquids.
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  I don't know about you, but even like using a porta potty I find
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  to be an ambidextrous like, what am I doing here?
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  How am I staying alive and not getting covered in my own feces?
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  For sure, but somehow. These guys are doing in
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  microgravity with a bag and tape, right?
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  So I'm assuming I don't notice to be factual, but I'm assuming
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  NASA deploys the buddy system in this case and they just don't.
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  Talk about it, but I don't. Really know, but I gotta believe
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  somebody like you need a helping hand like oh by the.
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  Way if I get to reserve my time in the restroom as I'm heading
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  toward the moon, I want the 41 minutes while we're on the dark
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  side of the moon, while there's no communication so that nobody
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  bugs me. I just want to use my restroom
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  in pride. That's why, that's why everyone
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  up there was apparent. They were just so happy in that
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  40 minutes of dark side. Oh yeah, 40 minutes of quietness
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  on the dark side, Yeah. It's probably why they signed up
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  for the mission. Remember, their pooper broke.
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  They've already set a couple records.
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  They are seeing things that haven't been seen with the human
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  eyes ever, which is incredible. Right, right.
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  And my favorite thing that I've read so far from the astronauts
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  that are that are in this capsule was from the commander
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  Reid Weissman, who said after speaking with his daughters from
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  space, he said the mood on board is very positive.
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  And that, you know, we're up here so far away.
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  And for an instant, I was reunited with my little family.
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  And it was quite simply the best moment of my life.
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  And I thought that was so cool to think about the, the, the
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  grand expanse of space. And this, this dude is the
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  farthest the way a human has ever been from Earth.
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  From his family. And he's thinking about his
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  little family and how that's just the best, the best possible
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  combination. And I think that is so cool and
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  so fitting of of this mission. They have 4K laser
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  communication. They're testing the O2O Orion
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  Artemis 2 optical communication system which uses lasers to be
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  in 4K high definition video back to Earth.
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  Amazing at 260 megabytes per second.
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  Speeds comparable to home fiber Internet.
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  They're going to use Starlink, but as it turns out, they didn't
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  want to spend the 50 bucks a month.
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  And that's a reasonable thing. 25,000 miles an hour is how fast
• 15:25
  they'll be going as they come back.
• 15:26
  Yeah, into Earth, creating temperatures of nearly 2700°C.
• 15:30
  Not that's a hot caps. That is a hot capsule.
• 15:33
  We don't know timing yet for sure.
• 15:35
  It's currently scheduled to re enter on Friday of this week at
• 15:38
  around 5:00 PM Pacific. It'll come back in in the
• 15:41
  Pacific Ocean, I'm assuming on a similar trajectory to where the
• 15:43
  Dragon capsules have landed. I'm excited to see it, but keep
• 15:46
  your eye on the timing because that could easily change.
• 15:48
  We don't know exactly when it's going to splash down course,
• 15:50
  it'll be during the daytime. So be a little harder to see,
• 15:52
  but I suspect they'll be able to see with the naked eye if you're
• 15:54
  in Southern California. Some of the science experiments,
• 15:56
  they've got human bone marrow cells on microfluid chips to see
• 16:00
  exactly how deep space radiation affects the human immune system.
• 16:03
  Yeah, at the cellular level. Sorry to talk about the landing
• 16:05
  again. I meant to mention this.
• 16:06
  When that comes back at 5:00 PM on Friday, that will be the
• 16:08
  first day of the first weekend of Coachella.
• 16:10
  Sure. And I kind of want to go just to
• 16:12
  watch the people that are absolutely tripping balls wonder
• 16:15
  what that thing is in the sky that is shooting across the sky.
• 16:17
  I'm going to just run. Around because they don't know.
• 16:19
  Aliens. It's got to be aliens just the
• 16:20
  whole time. Like I do suspect there to be a
• 16:22
  mild panic running around Coachella while everyone on
• 16:25
  their mushrooms there and acid is enjoying the.
• 16:27
  Trip NASA had to send your name to the Moon campaign and they
• 16:30
  had 5.6 million people who signed up for it, which means
• 16:34
  there are 5.6 million names on an SD card inside the capsule.
• 16:39
  That's cool, I paid an extra 100 bucks to have Butch write my
• 16:42
  name in the lunar landscape using only urine.
• 16:45
  Butch is not on this trip, but OK.
• 16:47
  There was an attempt. The crew has access to 189
• 16:49
  unique menu items including coffee, smoothies and BBQ beef
• 16:53
  brisket to keep morale high during the 10 day loop.
• 16:55
  What? They've got good food?
• 16:56
  That is ridiculous, by the way. Why?
• 16:58
  Why not 190? They couldn't.
• 16:59
  Couldn't go up with, couldn't go up with one more recipe.
• 17:01
  No, they cut the pot roast. As it turns out, the pot roast
• 17:03
  is terrible. Wait a minute quote to keep
• 17:05
  morale high. You are in a.
• 17:08
  Case Alderman was like we had Tang.
• 17:10
  Barely. Yeah.
• 17:11
  And they had to cut that? Yeah.
• 17:12
  Wait, I don't understand. Of all of the things in science
• 17:16
  that you there's no need to keep morale high here.
• 17:19
  You're flying to the moon. I was sure dog food and
• 17:22
  cardboard, like you're flying to the moon.
• 17:24
  That is insane. Like you're literally get to
• 17:26
  name craters that no humans have ever seen with their own eyes.
• 17:30
  And it's like, well, if I don't get the Turkey gravy, I'm gonna
• 17:32
  be really upset. Yes.
• 17:33
  They also had like a patch from one of the Apollo missions.
• 17:35
  Yes, that had been previously been brought to the moon.
• 17:38
  And I'm like, why are you bringing things right?
• 17:40
  Bring things already been there. We took these rocks earlier.
• 17:42
  Let's bring them back to you. Did they go pick up the lunar
• 17:44
  rocks? Yeah, exactly.
• 17:45
  Oh, so sorry. We we ignored the sign and said
• 17:47
  do not remove any rocks. These back where we.
• 17:49
  Right back where we picked them up from.
• 17:51
  It is pretty cool though. They also had who's the previous
• 17:54
  ass the Apollo was at level that recorded.
• 17:56
  Yeah, before he died back in August, he recorded their
• 17:59
  morning wake up. Yeah, it was really cool.
• 18:01
  Like I just, I love that so much of that goes into the the
• 18:05
  planning of this process that is, is really like a a mark on
• 18:08
  humanity. Yeah, at least up to this point.
• 18:10
  Why Congress Fears Starlink is trying to dodge compliance 21
• 18:14
  House Democrats are urging the federal government to rescind
• 18:16
  roughly $733 million in broadband subsidies earmarked
• 18:20
  for Spacex's Starlink. The lawmakers, led by
• 18:22
  Representative Sam Liccardo, accuses Elon Musk's company of
• 18:25
  attempting to pressure state offices into relaxing rules for
• 18:29
  the Broadband Equity Access and Deployment program BEAD.
• 18:32
  Central to the dispute is a SpaceX contract writer that
• 18:35
  demands 50% of the funds upfront and gives the company's sole
• 18:38
  authority to exclude certain underperforming locations from
• 18:41
  compliance data. Critics argue those exemptions
• 18:43
  would whitewash Starlink's performance and leave rural
• 18:46
  families with substandard service.
• 18:47
  With federal officials already insisting the program terms are
• 18:50
  non negotiable. SpaceX refusal to follow
• 18:52
  standard regulations makes it an irresponsible steward of
• 18:55
  taxpayer dollars, no doubt. Well, I mean, yeah, they've
• 18:58
  fortunately. They've got experience in being
• 19:00
  irresponsible stewards of dollars, so that's OK.
• 19:02
  Who does SpaceX? OK, let's go back to BEAD for a
• 19:04
  second. Yes, that's the broadband Equity
• 19:06
  Access and deployment program, which is what this this falls
• 19:08
  under, correct? And generally speaking, I think
• 19:10
  BEAD is a really good idea. This is an attempt to stimulate
• 19:14
  broadband access and underserved community.
• 19:16
  Let's get good fast. Internet as into as many parts
• 19:19
  of the country as we possibly can.
• 19:20
  Little They were trying to serve nearly half a million
• 19:22
  communities. Yes, originally under Biden, it
• 19:24
  was going to be fiber, which is a brilliant idea.
• 19:27
  Go, go, go back. A second before they made the
• 19:29
  decision to focus on fiber, the initial specs were 25 Meg down
• 19:32
  and three up, which is broadband adjacent.
• 19:36
  It's better than nothing, Sir. Yes, sure, sure.
• 19:37
  They've since upped those. That's really fast, Morse.
• 19:39
  Code is what that is. Well, they've since upped those
• 19:41
  to a. 100 down and 20 up, which is great 'cause that does get
• 19:44
  you into sort of the next tier of of broadband.
• 19:46
  So that sure, I appreciate that that has been amended in the,
• 19:49
  the, the sort of bead process and that's it's great.
• 19:51
  Now the initial focus during the Biden era was on fiber
• 19:55
  infrastructure, which I personally am a big fan of
• 19:57
  because that infrastructure serves a given region and is
• 20:00
  very fixed. Like you're probably going to
• 20:01
  get somewhere between 30 to 60 years or more out of that
• 20:04
  infrastructure. And that I think is a very net
• 20:07
  positive thing. It's not going to fall down out
• 20:09
  of the earth. That has to be refreshed.
• 20:10
  And I like that. Now, I do suspect there are some
• 20:12
  areas that even with a bead stimulus are not going to be
• 20:15
  served by fiber. They're just, of course.
• 20:17
  Too far away and. That's a great spot for Leo
• 20:20
  service. You are only trying.
• 20:21
  To serve just slightly less than a half million places, yeah, so.
• 20:25
  There should probably be a balance here.
• 20:26
  Now, it's interesting where Starlink is like, well, we don't
• 20:29
  want to have to count against places that we can't get
• 20:32
  deployed into. And it's like, well, that's part
• 20:34
  of the point. Yeah.
• 20:35
  Part of the point here is that there's some areas you can be
• 20:37
  deployed to in some areas that you can't.
• 20:38
  And everyone should be on the same grounds for that, right?
• 20:41
  The areas you can get to, you got to serve.
• 20:42
  The areas that you can't, you can't.
• 20:43
  It's interesting how this is going to or how this is shaken
• 20:47
  out so far. I do think there's a world where
• 20:48
  we need all of these things. But what's interesting to me
• 20:51
  about about Starlink's deployment is their
• 20:54
  constellation does not target a specific area, right?
• 20:56
  By definition, the constellation is constantly moving around the
• 20:59
  whole lying over the entire. Globe.
• 21:00
  Sure, yeah. So you're going to get.
• 21:02
  More than just the targeted areas.
• 21:04
  And that part I kind of I struggle with because what are
• 21:07
  they going to use the funds for? What they've said is they want
• 21:09
  to they want to subsidize the purchase of the antennas by the
• 21:12
  consumers in these areas, which OK, I could glom onto that
• 21:16
  unnecessary. They're not even that expensive.
• 21:18
  They're not that expensive. They're 250 bucks.
• 21:20
  Relative to A50 $100 a month service contract, sure, it's
• 21:24
  relatively negligible, but OK, fine.
• 21:26
  I could even see maybe subsidizing some of that for
• 21:29
  folks. Maybe you, you know, half of it
• 21:30
  great, fine, they become a a subscriber.
• 21:32
  They're on on board for for this.
• 21:34
  That seems reasonable to me, but I don't know how you get from
• 21:37
  $700 million at let's just say the full, full freight 250
• 21:41
  bucks. That's more people than we have
• 21:43
  on this program. Like where's the rest of the
• 21:44
  money going right And that's the part I don't understand for for
• 21:46
  those subsidies like what else are we using this on?
• 21:48
  If you're digging infrastructure, those costs are
• 21:50
  going to be single digit to double digit thousands of
• 21:52
  dollars per home yes. So it's much greater and that's
• 21:54
  what I don't know with Star like yeah, maybe we're putting up
• 21:57
  more birds. How do you amortize that against
• 21:59
  the guys in North Dakota that don't have access when in
• 22:02
  reality they're not going to be just used by those guys, It's
• 22:03
  going to be shared across the whole globe, right by everybody.
• 22:05
  So you're. Going to prorate it down.
• 22:07
  To. Maybe they have more downlinks
• 22:09
  that are local so it's a little quicker, but that's not going to
• 22:11
  make a giant difference in speed and latency.
• 22:13
  But you would hope that they would.
• 22:14
  Be very open and transparent about where that money is going
• 22:17
  and how it's actually helping those areas, right they
• 22:18
  reportedly sought. To water down requirements
• 22:20
  related to labor's Labor Standards and financial
• 22:23
  reporting, not just tech specs. Yeah, and it's a $21 billion
• 22:26
  domino because if Starlink gets these things, every single
• 22:28
  company who's a part of this program, the BEAD distributions
• 22:31
  will demand these same. And this I don't believe BEAD.
• 22:34
  Has any effect on this whatsoever.
• 22:35
  But the other problem we've got here is there's a lot of areas
• 22:37
  where we have codified in law that municipalities can't
• 22:41
  compete. And that to me is terrible,
• 22:43
  horrible. Why can't you have, like you, I
• 22:46
  have a municipality here that provides me electricity and
• 22:48
  water and seems to do a pretty good job.
• 22:50
  My market rates aren't insane. Like it works, I flush the
• 22:52
  toilet, the water goes away, I turn the facet on, the water
• 22:55
  comes here. Why not have them provide and
• 22:57
  they're the best ones. They already have the right of
• 22:58
  way. Sure, they have everything in
• 22:59
  place. I'd probably have fiber at my
• 23:02
  home if DWP was allowed to provide it versus an AT&T or a
• 23:06
  Frontier that has to trench and get their own right of way to
• 23:08
  bring that to my house. You also have this as a real
• 23:10
  like there's no way to protect it, right?
• 23:12
  You can't really put a fence around Leo.
• 23:14
  If you have mass dependency on Leo, it's pretty easy to easy as
• 23:19
  a relative term here. An adversary could go take some
• 23:21
  of those out, and we know that as you take out a few, that's
• 23:23
  gonna gonna, that's all you have to do.
• 23:25
  The rest all just domino. Yeah, they, they, you.
• 23:27
  Domino, you have this, you know, these particle clouds and then
• 23:30
  go ruin everything else. And then it's like, oh, you have
• 23:32
  no more Internet. It's so much harder to take out
• 23:34
  the the terrestrial on premise deployment, but I've seen the
• 23:37
  Three Stooges. Just one guy Yanks on the end of
• 23:39
  the fiber and the other guy goes falling on his butt.
• 23:41
  I've seen how this works. You can knock it out.
• 23:43
  Just goes flying into the. Hole.
• 23:44
  Yeah, No, I understand. You can.
• 23:45
  You can totally knock. A bunch of backhoes at the same.
• 23:47
  Time you you want to be careful talking about ways to take on
• 23:49
  infrastructure 'cause that's how we get a visit from the guys in
• 23:51
  the suits, so you should probably not talk too deeply
• 23:54
  about that. Let's move on.
• 23:55
  Yes, Backfire. Washington's restrictions are
• 23:57
  funding China's tech independence.
• 23:59
  Chinese semiconductor companies are defying Washington's
• 24:02
  tightening export controls, posting record-breaking revenues
• 24:05
  fueled by a relentless domestic AI boom.
• 24:08
  As the US curbs block access to high end NVIDIA hardware,
• 24:11
  Chinese tech giants and data centers are pivoting to
• 24:13
  homegrown alternatives, creating a windfall for local
• 24:16
  manufacturers like SMIC and Hua Hong.
• 24:19
  Driven by urgent self-sufficiency mandates, these
• 24:21
  firms are rapidly expanding capacity and mature nodes and
• 24:25
  accelerating breakthroughs in advanced packaging.
• 24:27
  While technological gap remains compared to global leaders, the
• 24:30
  sanctions have inadvertently fast tracked China's internal
• 24:33
  supply chain with massive state subsidies and soaring demand for
• 24:36
  AI computing power. China's the ship sector is no
• 24:38
  longer just surviving, it's scaling at a historic pace.
• 24:42
  Yeah, I mean, first of all, what?
• 24:43
  Do you think's going to happen and I I wouldn't say that that
• 24:45
  they're defying our export controls.
• 24:48
  I mean they, they are in some cases, right.
• 24:49
  They certainly there have been all sorts of resignations and
• 24:52
  implications. The guys from Supermicro were
• 24:54
  straight up absolutely ships over for sure, sure.
• 24:56
  They're also just ramping their manufacturing.
• 24:58
  Yes, that's the more. Interesting part of the story,
• 25:00
  Yeah, but they didn't have a. Choice.
• 25:01
  So I think about like split timeline like there's this
• 25:04
  timeline where we put in tighten controls and now they were
• 25:06
  manufacturing and there's this time on where we didn't put in
• 25:09
  more controls. What would have happened then
• 25:11
  maybe they wouldn't have ramped their manufacturing, but they
• 25:12
  sort of had access to the to the chips.
• 25:14
  So I'm not sure which one is better.
• 25:16
  I mean, right now you've got a window of time where you've
• 25:18
  slowed down their ramp up of application, like you don't have
• 25:22
  enough chips maybe to run your big models on.
• 25:24
  They're gonna get parity at some point, absolutely so.
• 25:27
  Maybe we bought ourselves. A little bit of time, but holy
• 25:29
  crap, we better do something useful at that time.
• 25:31
  We better Sprint ahead as much as we can on the application
• 25:34
  side, which we do seem to be doing.
• 25:36
  But man, your your time is limited with that head start.
• 25:39
  Yeah, for sure. They've created this.
• 25:40
  Thing called the big fund, and they're in phase three and that
• 25:43
  is state back chip fund with a staggering 47.5 billion dollars
• 25:48
  ¥344 billion in capital. This single fund is larger than
• 25:52
  the entire US Chips Act subsidy pool, which is 39 billion.
• 25:56
  Yeah, I mean, again, they didn't.
• 25:57
  Have a choice. They're stepping on the gas.
• 25:58
  Hard, Yeah, As they should, I mean.
• 26:00
  This makes the most sense. It's something we should
• 26:01
  probably do as well 'cause I don't think this is just about
• 26:03
  costs, it's about just being able to have the ability to do
• 26:06
  these things to avoid dependence on.
• 26:07
  Western chip architectures like ARM and X86.
• 26:10
  China has gone all in on RISC 5, an open source alternative.
• 26:14
  This makes their chip designs virtually sanction proof because
• 26:17
  no single country owns the license.
• 26:19
  They've also gone hard on chiplets, which are little tiny
• 26:22
  chips that they can it's going to assemble lots of, you know,
• 26:24
  it's the AMD thing where you can stack a bunch of them together
• 26:27
  and get a much more powerful chip.
• 26:28
  China is currently building more semiconductor fabrication plants
• 26:31
  than the rest of the world combined.
• 26:33
  Yeah, I believe that in 2024-2025, 18 large scale fabs
• 26:37
  were slated to begin operations. Wow, 18.
• 26:39
  New large scale fabs. Now for perspective, we've had
• 26:43
  what, two or three here in the past five years.
• 26:45
  Yes, yes. And that was like newsworthy.
• 26:48
  Yeah. Like that was like whoa, wow,
• 26:49
  we're getting new fabs. That's great.
• 26:50
  They're building 18. That's amazing.
• 26:52
  They created this thing called the. 1000 talents program and
• 26:55
  there's other similar initiatives to successfully lure
• 26:58
  hundreds of senior engineers back from Silicon Valley sure,
• 27:01
  Intel and TSMZ to lead the Chinese domestic startups yeah
• 27:04
  and meanwhile. We want to focus apparently on
• 27:07
  manufacturing things that are sold at Walmart for $8 also for
• 27:10
  some. Reason We want to shut down our
• 27:12
  H1B visa program so that we can't have any of these great
• 27:15
  engineers coming in. You don't want to help us.
• 27:17
  Anyway, look, I enjoyed being a superpower for a while, no?
• 27:20
  It was fun and now I'm I'm looking.
• 27:22
  Forward to our new overloads, whether they be robotic or
• 27:24
  Chinese. China's dominance.
• 27:25
  In electric vehicles is partially fueling its chip boom.
• 27:28
  Modern EVs require up to 3000 chips per car, making these
• 27:32
  chips domestically. China is creating a vertically
• 27:34
  integrated EV to Silicon Empire 3000.
• 27:37
  Chips per car. And that's if you want the wired
• 27:39
  car play. If you want the wireless car
• 27:41
  play, it's 4000 chips per car. Sure, it takes a little.
• 27:43
  More it doesn't. Inherently, it takes more.
• 27:45
  Underneath the big names. Thousands of little giant
• 27:47
  startups are appearing to replace specific chemicals,
• 27:49
  gases and silicon wafers that were previously imported from
• 27:52
  Japan or Germany. Yeah, that's gonna be the race,
• 27:54
  man. It's gonna be the race to find
• 27:55
  all creating their own. Infrastructure in China, which
• 27:57
  is totally smart exactly they need to China's strategy and
• 28:00
  just to make its own chips is to make the rest of the world
• 28:02
  dependent on Chinese made components.
• 28:04
  So for the Internet of Things, ensuring that that Western tech
• 28:06
  cannot function without Chinese silicon, yeah, China is.
• 28:10
  Invested in 18 large fabrication facilities and we no longer
• 28:14
  allow you to buy consumer grade routers.
• 28:16
  Like that's our position. Like that's how we're going to
• 28:18
  tackle this problem head on. Like no, no more Netgear.
• 28:21
  No, that's how we're going to win.
• 28:22
  It's like okey dokey. It's embarrassing.
• 28:25
  I'm I'm glad we're. Playing one-dimensional checkers
• 28:27
  and China is getting the. Biggest engineers and begging
• 28:30
  them to come to China. Meanwhile we're saying no, no,
• 28:32
  you can't come in. No, no, no doors.
• 28:34
  Lot has four. Antennas on it?
• 28:35
  Nope, can't, can't use it. OK, now with the headlines.
• 28:37
  In fact, now with the episode we have to get out here.
• 28:39
  Special thanks to our floor director, Pranay Sharma.
• 28:41
  Thanks, Pranay. We'll be back later this week
• 28:43
  with a big story. The industry's AI hits next.
• 28:45
  Until then, thank you for listening to all this nonsense
• 28:48
  pizza. That's the next.
• 28:49
  Industry AI is hitting next. Sam Altman just wants good
• 28:51
  pizza, and he's deploying $900 billion to get us there.
• 28:54
  Wow by. The way money well spent.
• 28:56
  Bravo Sam. Pizza debates are going to be.
• 28:58
  Real with our listener base. Look, if this AGI spits out of
• 29:00
  chicago-based pizza, I'm going to be extremely upset.
• 29:03
  That's all I have to say. It's an AI.
• 29:05
  It can. Come out with all the different
• 29:06
  kinds of. I also like that.
• 29:07
  The AG is like you don't put ham and pineapple on a pizza like
• 29:11
  that's it's big take away and it's big Oracle take away is
• 29:14
  that it just powers itself down. I'm out of here.
• 29:17
  Just self destruct delete all code bases.
• 29:19
  I'm Jeff Parker. I'm.
• 29:20
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• 30:02
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  trying like, yeah, you know, I think Amazon was trying to do
• 30:21
  its own phone service at some point in there.
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  There were a few companies that were trying to do that.
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  that. The dumbest thing I've ever
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  heard. So the former.
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  John was the CEO of ESPN. He said it was a big bet that
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  was bound to fail. So that was the chairman's view
• 31:07
  at the time. OK, this was a complete and
• 31:08
  utter disaster. I'm thinking back to.
• 31:10
  What year Steve Jobs died? And cause 'cause now I know
• 31:13
  Steve Jobs commented on it. I think if I remember that
• 31:15
  right, you say yes, he died around the time of the iPhone
• 31:19
  4S. So that gives me a tiny window
• 31:22
  in time. I'm going to guess this thing
• 31:24
  was 2005. Yeah, 2000.
• 31:27
  Five. Late 2005 was when it came out.
• 31:29
  They discontinued it in 2006. Oh, perfect.
• 31:32
  They got a whole year out, Eriko, they got.
• 31:34
  A whole year out of it. A sports Yes broadcasting
• 31:36
  company. Wanted to make a phone a company
• 31:39
  that. Only made increased revenue year
• 31:42
  over year. ESP.
• 31:43
  NS revenue was up and to the right since they launched.
• 31:45
  They they could basically do no wrong, which is probably part of
• 31:48
  the story on this. They spent 150 million bucks.
• 31:50
  This is in 2005 dollars, OK supposedly including a $30
• 31:54
  million Super Bowl ad, which I think is like the hubris on that
• 31:58
  is amazing. Like they didn't even bother
• 31:59
  testing this thing. They launched in November or
• 32:01
  December of 05 and then had a Super Bowl ad in 06 that they
• 32:04
  spent 30 million bucks on. Supposedly they only hit 6% of
• 32:09
  their sales target. My favorite part of this story
• 32:11
  was that not just they shut it down a year later, but I think
• 32:14
  it was like Deadspin did an article on them and they asked
• 32:18
  their their user base to send in an e-mail if they had.
• 32:21
  And they got one e-mail from their whole user base of people
• 32:24
  that were using it. It it was a colossal failure.
• 32:27
  Yeah. Deadspin later would claim that
• 32:28
  their entire readership during an average afternoon hour was
• 32:31
  larger than the entire mobile ESPN customer base.
• 32:33
  And they were probably right, of course.
• 32:35
  ESPN Mobile, 2005 to 2006. Rest in peace, friend.
• 32:39
  The end.