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Ian Furness 11/2 H1: We are live from Jimmy's and Mike Holmgren joins the show! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KKRFM
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  Speaker 2: Light Cold as the Rockies live from Jimmy's on first
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  Speaker 2: right next to Lumen Field. Sunday night football tonight, Seahawks-Bears 5-15.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest injury update. Charles Cross, Rashid Shahid,
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  Speaker 2: Bayless Jones all out. Shannon Uwosu doubtful, which means he'll
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  Speaker 2: miss the game more than likely as well. Drew Locke,
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Bradford are questionable. Jadarian Price, Zach Charbonnet, both full
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  Speaker 2: participants on Saturday. We'll kind of keep monitoring to see
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  Speaker 2: what happens with that as far as who's in, who's out.
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  Speaker 3: They don't have to make that decision just yet.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little different on Monday Night Football. I'm assuming
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  Speaker 2: we'll see Charbonnet. Jadarian Price seems to be the one
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  Speaker 2: that's questioned. Mike Holmgren will be raising the 12th man
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  Speaker 2: flag tonight. He'll join us at 1230 in about a
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  Speaker 2: half hour's time. Mariners second baseman Cole Young. How about this?
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  Speaker 2: Wins the American League gold glove. Good for him. He
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  Speaker 2: led the American League second baseman in games, innings, put outs, assists,
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  Speaker 2: fielding percentage, and defensive runs saved. He joins Brett Boone
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  Speaker 2: and Harold Reynolds as the only second baseman in Mariners
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  Speaker 2: history to win a gold glove. Luke Piniella has been
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  Speaker 2: named as a finalist for the Baseball Hall of Fame 2027.
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  Speaker 3: Contemporary Era Ballot. Come on, Lou. Get that guy in, huh?
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  Speaker 4: He should kick dirt on him if he doesn't get it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it. Yeah, he'll throw a fit. Kraken made
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  Speaker 2: a trade over the weekend. Shane Wright goes to Nashville
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  Speaker 2: for winger Matthew Wood. They also announced today they got.
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  Speaker 3: Their new third jerseys. They call them the Remix. I
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  Speaker 3: think City Remix.
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  Speaker 4: They're cool. Hometown Remix.
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  Speaker 3: They will be debuting, actually, on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I like them a lot.
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  Speaker 2: At the game against Calgary. Sounders in danger of missing
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  Speaker 2: the NFL MLS playoffs. 5-1 loss to Vancouver yesterday. They're
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  Speaker 2: in the playoff bubble. Clean to the 9th seed ahead
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  Speaker 2: of the season finale against LAFC on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: That's decision day. I think they call it the MLS.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go. The countdown is on.
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  Speaker 1: This is the countdown to Monday Night Football with Ian Furness.
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  Speaker 4: He's going to go into the open field.
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  Speaker 1: As we count you down to tonight's game at 515.
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  Speaker 3: On Sports Radio 93.3, KJR FM.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we're live at Jimmy's on first. Doors are open.
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  Speaker 2: Bar is filling up. We're getting a lot of activity
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  Speaker 2: down here outside of the left field gate of T-Mobile
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  Speaker 2: Park right across the street from the Lumen Field Event Center.
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  Speaker 2: I can look to my right over my right shoulder,
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  Speaker 2: and I see about 150 yards away the upper reaches
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  Speaker 2: of the south end zone at Lumen Field, which will
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  Speaker 2: be popping tonight when the Seahawks host The Chicago Bears.
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  Speaker 3: On Monday night football. Oh, baby, here we go. Huge game.
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  Speaker 2: Something about. Ashley, I'm going to ask this question to
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  Speaker 2: our listeners, to you. We'll have a discussion. We'll get
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  Speaker 2: into all the X's and O's. Stand by for that
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  Speaker 2: in a second. Let me run down the show quickly. First,
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned the headlines. Mike Holmgren is going to join
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  Speaker 2: us at 1230. Excited about that. I have not had
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  Speaker 2: a chance to talk to Mike for a while on
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  Speaker 2: the show. We had him on weekly for the last
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  Speaker 2: few years. He scaled things back a little bit this
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  Speaker 2: season and is doing Softee's show on Thursdays for the
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  Speaker 2: 520 Bar and Grill. But big night for him. He's
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  Speaker 2: raising the 12th man flag. I think it's the second
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  Speaker 2: time he's done it. But he's doing that tonight for
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  Speaker 2: Monday Night Football. And so Softee was kind enough to
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  Speaker 2: lend him to us. So big show himself, Mike Holmgren.
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  Speaker 2: Ring of Honor in some time, hopefully soon, soon, soon,
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  Speaker 2: will be an NFL Hall of Famer. Mike Holmgren will
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  Speaker 2: join us coming up at 1230. Ashley, I am thrilled
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  Speaker 2: and excited about that.
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  Speaker 3: How about you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait. I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 5: And I know that it means a lot to him too,
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  Speaker 5: because you could hear, I think there was Softy did
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  Speaker 5: a promo when he said that he was doing it
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  Speaker 5: and he got a little emotional and I just love
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  Speaker 5: Coach so much.
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  Speaker 4: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 2: I think any, you know, we've been very lucky at
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  Speaker 2: our radio station over the years, really lucky because we've
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  Speaker 2: got to know Mike quite a bit. He's been a
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  Speaker 2: big part of our radio station, still is a big
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  Speaker 2: part of our radio station and And when he got
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  Speaker 2: out of coaching, went to Cleveland for that one little
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  Speaker 2: brief stint there working for some sketchy owners and everything else.
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  Speaker 2: And he came back to Seattle. And I know Softie
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  Speaker 2: and others approached him. And a lot of people wanted
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  Speaker 2: to get him on. And Dave had a great relationship
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  Speaker 2: with him. And Mike and his family decided to come
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  Speaker 2: on over here to KJR and hang out with us.
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  Speaker 2: And whether it was Chuck and Buck and you over
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  Speaker 2: the years on the morning show. myself, and then Softie.
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  Speaker 2: We've all had Mike on for years, and like I say,
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  Speaker 2: he's just doing Softie's show now, which is great. Respect
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  Speaker 2: that decision. But at the same time, miss having him on,
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  Speaker 2: but we've got to know him so well. He's just a,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's one of the nicest, most gracious human
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  Speaker 2: beings I've ever met, which is wild because when you
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  Speaker 2: watch the video of him coaching or you see some
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  Speaker 2: of the Mike Dub segments, he's losing his mind.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And all of us that, you know, covered him, I
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  Speaker 2: only covered him for six, seven, eight, nine, I guess
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  Speaker 2: four years. When I came back to Seattle, he was
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  Speaker 2: an intimidating figure in presence. Guys like Robbie Toback and
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  Speaker 2: Walt and guys like that that are still around will
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  Speaker 2: tell the stories. Matt Hasselbeck about Mike. He had a
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  Speaker 2: presence about him. He had an aura about him. And
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  Speaker 2: he still does, but it's just different because now it's
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  Speaker 2: just this guy, this big, huge, gentle giant that's the
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  Speaker 2: nicest guy you can meet. So I'm thrilled that he
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  Speaker 2: gets to be honored tonight on a Monday night game.
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  Speaker 2: at Lumen Field, on national TV, as well he should.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of the great coaches in the history of
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  Speaker 2: the National Football League. He contributed more to this game
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  Speaker 2: than many who are in the Hall of Fame. He'll
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  Speaker 2: never say that publicly, but I will and others will too.
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  Speaker 2: The innovations offensively, the quarterback whisperer that he was, developing
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  Speaker 2: so many great quarterbacks, obviously far top of the list,
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  Speaker 2: but what he did with Matt, Mark Brunel and others,
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  Speaker 2: obviously Joe Montana, Steve Young.
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  Speaker 4: Those are some good names.
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  Speaker 2: They're all really good names. And, you know, at the
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  Speaker 2: bare minimum, they all at least have a Pro Bowl
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  Speaker 2: behind their name. And like real Pro Bowl, not like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, alternate Pro Bowl. But, you know, all pros,
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  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, all that. He's a Super Bowl champion. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think sometimes we need to remember, too,
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  Speaker 2: that this franchise suffered for years. And this franchise went
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  Speaker 2: through a lot for years in terms of a lack
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  Speaker 2: of success. And when Paul Allen bought the team and
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  Speaker 2: then made the decision with Todd Laiweke and others to
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  Speaker 2: bring Mike Holmgren to Seattle, give him that GM title
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  Speaker 2: that he wanted to run the show with his people
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  Speaker 2: and as well as be a coach.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, I mean, we know how it ended.
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  Speaker 2: Not great. Some mistakes were made mostly by, frankly, probably
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  Speaker 2: the team. And, you know, Laiweke will tell you that
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  Speaker 2: and others. But But Mike raised the level of respect.
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  Speaker 2: And what he did for this organization, he put us
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  Speaker 2: kind of on the map, I think, in Seattle. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I'll go back and further back in time. That had
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  Speaker 2: been done once before, Ash. And that was when Mike
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  Speaker 2: McCormick took over as the GM and hired Chuck Knox.
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  Speaker 2: And they gave this team a level of credibility and
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  Speaker 2: respect around the league that was... and I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: bring it into Monday Night Football here in a second,
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  Speaker 2: but that was really sensational. That was all ruined when
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  Speaker 2: Ken Bering bought the team and decided he wanted to
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  Speaker 2: make changes, bring his people in, like Tom Flores, who
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  Speaker 2: just destroyed these guys and destroyed the organization. But Chuck
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  Speaker 2: Knox had it to that level, along with Mike McCormick.
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  Speaker 3: It went away.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Holmgren brought it back and then took this team
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  Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl for the very first time, as
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  Speaker 2: we all know, in 2005 with that great team. Best
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  Speaker 2: offensive line we've ever seen. One of the best offensive
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  Speaker 2: lines in the history of the league, to be honest
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  Speaker 2: with you. Two Hall of Famers on the left side.
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  Speaker 2: in Hutch and Walt, Pro Bowlers all the way around.
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  Speaker 2: But what Mike did for this organization and this city
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  Speaker 2: should never, ever be taken for granted or forgotten. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Pete took it to the next level with a Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl win and another appearance, and then Mike McDonald has
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  Speaker 2: kept it up as well. And I'll say this. We've
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  Speaker 2: all been around long enough. Ashley, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: date you. You're way younger than I am. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think way younger. It doesn't take much to look and see...
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  Speaker 2: that uh in our in our city uh you know
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  Speaker 2: there were times when this franchise was not what it
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  Speaker 2: is today it was not if there was a game
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  Speaker 2: on a monday night yeah there'd be good you know
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  Speaker 2: crowd would be great and all that there wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: people already on occidental going bananas right and parting it
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  Speaker 2: up and there wouldn't be such a thing as blue
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  Speaker 2: fridays and everybody the 12s and all those things and
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  Speaker 2: uh a large chunk of that credit goes to mike
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  Speaker 2: and then obviously pete And Mike McDonald, and then John
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  Speaker 2: Schneider as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We've been, that, that, but that.
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  Speaker 2: Don't forget, this organization always, wasn't always what it is
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  Speaker 2: right now today, and those guys all deserve a big,
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  Speaker 2: a big, you know, and Pete, same thing, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Pete's exactly the same, and it's funny, coaching tenures usually
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  Speaker 2: never end great. Bill Belichick's a good example of that
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  Speaker 2: in New England, right?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They just sometimes, the greatest, the greatest coaches don't always
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  Speaker 2: have the best endings to their tenures, but. Mike and
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  Speaker 2: just having him get in the ring of honor a
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  Speaker 2: couple years ago and now seeing him do the flag
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  Speaker 2: tonight is going to be awesome. He'll join us coming
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  Speaker 2: up at 1230. Hugh Millen for a segment at 1
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  Speaker 2: o'clock today. And I like to keep things consistent with
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  Speaker 2: hardcore football. Ashley, you know that now. Like if they
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  Speaker 2: play on a Thursday, I still want Hugh on on
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  Speaker 2: the Mondays. And it's a Monday. There isn't a game.
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  Speaker 2: But Monday night football, obviously tonight, I wanted to get
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  Speaker 2: Hugh on to get a preview in if I could.
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  Speaker 3: And so Hugh's going to join us coming up today.
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  Speaker 2: At uh at one o'clock we'll just do a segment
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  Speaker 2: with you i he i heard him this morning he
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  Speaker 2: had some great stuff with at the end of the
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  Speaker 2: end of the show with uh anders and company when he.
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  Speaker 5: Was talking about his no cliche keys to victory.
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  Speaker 2: Yes i love that and what he was saying i
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  Speaker 2: i i really enjoy i there's a couple things i
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  Speaker 2: want to get into with him on that What he
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  Speaker 2: talked about with Caleb Williams and also we'll get to
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  Speaker 2: the offense as well with two receivers not named JSN
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  Speaker 2: and we want to get to that. At 1 o'clock,
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  Speaker 2: 1.30 I think, did you get me a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of Greg Cosell?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yes.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so we got a little Greg Cosell with the
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  Speaker 2: tape tells us about tonight's game from Friday that we
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  Speaker 2: can get going with that a little bit coming up today.
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  Speaker 2: So stand by for that. That's at 1.30 today. We've
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  Speaker 2: got a busy show, man. We've got a really busy show.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Sando at 2 o'clock. We'll get into that as
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  Speaker 2: well with Sando at that time. So, yeah, we've got
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  Speaker 2: a lot going on, man. And I'll tell you, there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Chicago Bears. I'm not liking this. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of Chicago Bears fans making their way down here.
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  Speaker 2: That's one of those teams that will travel.
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  Speaker 5: I hope that they leave as disappointed as I left
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  Speaker 5: Chicago when I went to watch the Seahawks play there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, did you? When did you go there?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, gosh, was that like six years ago? Maybe longer.
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  Speaker 4: It was a long time ago. I guess it was
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  Speaker 4: maybe like eight years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Was that the Monday night game?
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  Speaker 4: It was a Monday night game, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay. I was there. What happened in that game?
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  Speaker 3: I don't even remember.
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  Speaker 5: We lost.
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  Speaker 4: I just remember we lost. I do know that. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think it was very close.
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  Speaker 5: I remember they were doing something with Brian Urlacher that game,
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  Speaker 5: and everybody was just hyped up.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, they're all going nuts with that?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: They were fired up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: We were not as much. Not so much on the
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  Speaker 5: fired up.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if only there was a way to look
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  Speaker 3: up what happened in that game.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: By, I don't know, let's see, looking at, wait for it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see, that would have been 2018.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: I said, oh, maybe it was eight years ago.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. 2018 and the Seahawks lost 24-17.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't think it was that close, though. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: their defense was, yeah, that's right. Russell Wilson was sacked
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  Speaker 5: six times.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we were there. We had it on FOX 13.
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  Speaker 2: Remember that? I think the weather wasn't great either, if
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  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 4: It was very cold.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I hope that they deal with the same
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  Speaker 4: thing we deal with.
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  Speaker 3: Let's hope so. Let's hope so. Let's hope that happens
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  Speaker 3: along the way. All right.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what's coming up on the show today. Busy
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  Speaker 2: show on a Monday night, football day. We'll keep an eye.
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  Speaker 2: As far as we know, as far as I can tell.
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  Speaker 2: There isn't a lot out there yet. I think they
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  Speaker 2: have to wait until later on, or they can wait
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  Speaker 2: until later on this afternoon. If you see something, just
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  Speaker 2: jump in and tell me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I will.
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  Speaker 3: As far as.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. And just waiting to see if there's anything
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  Speaker 3: in terms of the rosters.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, 515, so what would that be?
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  Speaker 3: 345-ish, is that right? Would that be right?
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  Speaker 4: If an hour and a half before? Yeah, is that right?
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  Speaker 3: Did I do my math right? Yeah, you did.
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  Speaker 2: That's when we'll start. Hopefully we'll see Price. I'm expecting
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  Speaker 2: we'll see Charbonnet. And then, of course, last week we
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  Speaker 2: thought we'd see Charbonnet and we didn't, so who knows.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to play a guessing game in this world, this
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  Speaker 2: day and age, is probably not the brightest thing to do.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll leave it at that. Okay, before we get
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  Speaker 2: to Mike Holmgren. And we'll get to Texas. We've got
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  Speaker 2: Factor Fiction, $ 1, 000. Your chance to win $ 1, 000 coming up
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: at 235 today. I did a thing with my guys
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: Donnie and Dolly up in Vancouver today on their TV
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: show this morning, TV show slash podcast, and we were talking,
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  Speaker 2: and they asked about, is Monday Night Football still like
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  Speaker 2: kind of, does it still have that allure?
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  Speaker 3: And my answer to them was yes. Monday Night Football
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  Speaker 3: is still special.
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  Speaker 2: To me it's, and listen, the difference with Monday Night
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  Speaker 2: Football is We do get some dogs along the way, right?
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  Speaker 3: Some bad games.
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  Speaker 2: Sunday Night Football starting, I think, the week after next,
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  Speaker 2: you can get rid of, say, a Washington-Philadelphia matchup like
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  Speaker 2: we saw last night. But Sunday Night Football has the
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  Speaker 2: ability to always kind of, you know, as the year
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  Speaker 2: goes on, tweak the schedule a little bit. Monday Night Football,
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  Speaker 2: not so much. I think they might have changed that rule,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think so. But it doesn't matter. Monday
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  Speaker 2: Night Football is special. It just still is. And I'd
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  Speaker 2: love to get your thoughts, 49451. To me, growing up,
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  Speaker 2: You know, for years, Monday Night Football in our town
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  Speaker 2: was tape delayed.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if people remember that.
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  Speaker 2: People that are older would remember that when it was
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  Speaker 2: on ABC, for many years, Como TV would... And I
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  Speaker 2: think they weren't the only one. There was a couple
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  Speaker 2: stations on the West Coast that would delay.
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  Speaker 3: Monday Night Football.
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  Speaker 2: So it was started at 5 or whatever, and we
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  Speaker 2: ran it in Seattle at 7.
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  Speaker 4: I do not remember that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was pre.
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  Speaker 2: That was pre-internet, pre-Twitter, pre-all those things.
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  Speaker 3: You couldn't do that now, right? You couldn't do that now.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: Like, it was, like, there's no way. But back then, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we did. And I was working as a producer back then.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: It was a nightmare. Because even though people couldn't really
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: have access to what's going on in a game, you know, like,
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: there's no way.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: Like, just think about how different our world is right now.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: We got a newspaper in the morning, the Seattle PI,
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: a newspaper at night, the Seattle Times, and We watched
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: the news at 5, 6, 30, and 11, and that's
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: how we found out how stuff was going on. If
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: there's something breaking, you break in with it on TV.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: That was it.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: But we delayed it until 7 o'clock. And then we
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: did a show afterwards at 10-ish, depending on when the
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: game ended. And it was for a while we did
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: the Chuck Knox show, and then we did the Kurt
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Warner show. We did the Dave Craig show. I think
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: we even did a Eugene Robinson show, if I'm not mistaken,
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: at some point, depending on who was in town. And
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: it led up to the 11 o'clock news. And I
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: had a chance to produce those. It was a ton
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: of fun. And I look back, and I do remember this.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: When the Seahawks played on Monday Night Football, we ran
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: those live. Like, the occasions that Seattle played Monday Night Football,
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: we ran those games live.
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: And it was just such a massive deal. Like, we're
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: on Monday Night Football. Every year the schedule would come out.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: and you sit back and wait, like, how many Monday
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: night games do we get? And maybe it's different now.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: You tell me, Ash, and our listeners at 494. Maybe
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: it's different now because we have Thursday night and Sunday night,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: and then later in the year we'll have a Saturday
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: night game too and stuff like that. We have Thanksgiving
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: night games. We'll have a Christmas day game. So there's
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: a lot more primetime games. Back when it was just
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: one game and it was Monday night that was a primetime.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Game, it was huge. It was enormous.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: But I told those guys up in Canada today, I
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: think it's still a big deal. I think this is
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: really special. And I think when you throw into the
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: fact that it's a huge game with Chicago, the Bears,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: an NFC rival, and they're a rival, make no mistake,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: because you're going to be battling for wildcard positions or
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: seedings and all that stuff. This is a big night.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: This is a really, really big night. And I can't wait.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: The game itself is a tremendous matchup. Johnson versus McDonald,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: the two head coaches, two of the best young brains
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: in the sport.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know. To me, it's still special.
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: You?
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think it's still special. I mean, and
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: I don't think... I think a lot of it has to.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: Do with the matchup that you get to with these
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: primetime games and how it works out to each team
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: and where they're at at the point that the game happens, right?
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: But you've got Chicago playing well, and then the Seahawks
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: also playing well.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Both teams added, you know, somebody key to their team,
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: so it just kind of even amplifies the matchup that
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: much more. I think it's a big deal, yes, for sure.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's the thing. And we'll get
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: your thoughts on that. The game itself... Similar challenge to
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: last week. Great offense. Really good offense.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: And so that part of it, the matchup itself is,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, last week you were going against the number
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: one offense in the NFL. And this week, you know,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: you're going against one of the top offenses as well
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: that's also a guy that's, I mean, let's be honest,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is playing at a really high level. This
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: is the number three total offense, number one Russia offense,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: number 13 pass offense, number eight points per game. Their
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: defense is, Kind of like Kansas City, maybe flies under
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: the radar because of how good the offense is, but
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: also very good as well. Number eight total defense, number
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: three against the run, number 18 against the pass, and
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: ninth in terms of points per game. So, I mean,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: on paper, the numbers kind of match across the boards
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: outside of the fact that they run the ball really
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: well and Seattle does not. They're both middle of the
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: pack in terms of pass offense. Seattle's points per game, 13.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: They're eighth, Chicago. But Seattle's number one in total defense,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: number one in pass defense, number six.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: In rush defense.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: That's just elite numbers right there for Seattle. They add
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Simmons. Seattle adds Quentin Nelson.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Toe to toe, back and forth. Let's kick this thing off. We're,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: what are we, about five hours away from it at
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: 1220 right now.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: We'll take a break. We'll come back. Mike Holmgren. Can't wait.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Haven't talked to him for a while. He'll join us
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: coming up next. Well, every Thursday, the highlight of the
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: week on KJR, to be honest with you, is at
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: 4 o'clock. And all due respect to two of those guys,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Softie and Dick. It's not because of them. We love
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: the 520. It's cool there. But the highlight of the
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: week is when our next guest jumps on, and he's
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: on with us right now. One of my favorite people
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: in the world, one of the most popular people ever
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: to walk a sideline or grace our area and our
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: community and the world of sports is joining us on
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: the Beacon Plumbing Hotline.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Ten years.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: 160 wins, 86 losses, a 538 winning percentage. It's the
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: first ever trip to the Super Bowl for the Seattle Seahawks,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: and it's been way too long since I've said hello
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: to Mike Holmgren.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Hi, Mike. How are you?
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: Hey, good, Ian. It's good to hear your voice, man.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: It really is. How's it going?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: It's going well. We miss you, but I'm glad you're
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: on with Softie every week. I know you kind of
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: scaled things back a little bit this year, but we
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: get to hear you every week with Softie, and I'm
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: thrilled to have you on today. I know Softie made
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: mention of this the other day, and... This is always
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: a highlight, and I don't even know when it started.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming it was with you, right, when they moved
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: into Lumen Field, the raising the 12th man flag.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Is that when it started?
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that is when it started. But listen, I wanted
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: to tell you something before we start football.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: Is going to Whitworth.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he decided to go there. He could go any
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: number of places. Anyway, so I just thought I'd throw
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: that at you because you kind of encouraged me to
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: do that.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Is he a student or student-athlete?
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: Well, he's a student-athlete. You know, I haven't heard from
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: him in a while. He likes the outdoors. He likes
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: to climb mountains and that kind of stuff.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Well, they've got a lot of outdoor programs there. Well, listen,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: that makes me really happy. That's awesome. Look, congratulations. Great school.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: And, you know, if they have any questions, the family does,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: dorms or whatever, let me know or I'll put them
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: in charge. I'll put them in touch with the boss lady.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: She's the queen of Whitworth. She'll help them out.
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: Thank you. And I didn't mean to interrupt just the show,
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: but I'd tell you.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Well, let me just– and you mentioned this was soft
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the other day. You're going to raise the 12th man
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: flag tonight. I think this is the second time you've
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: done it. But on Monday Night Football, national audience, I mean,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: it's going to be– the place is going to be
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: going crazy. Mike, what does this mean to you?
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: Well, you know what? I'll be honest with you. I
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: wasn't sure I was going to do it because I've
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: kind of stepped away from everything and it– It kind
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: of stirs up things that I don't necessarily want to
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: think about too much anymore. But then when I decided
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: to do it, I'm very excited about it. And my
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: grandkids and kids are going to be there with me.
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: And it's the Chicago Bears that I have a history with. So, no,
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: and our great fans in Seattle. I mean, no, it's
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: going to be very special, I think. And I'm glad
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: I kind of didn't chicken out on it, you know.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I was there a few years ago when you and
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Matt went into the Ring of Honor. That was a
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: really cool night, really, I know, emotional and everything else
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: and really fun. And to be able to share things
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: like that with your family or special, the Ring of
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Honor is, and just going in and seeing your name
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: up there, knowing, and for people that don't know, in
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Green Bay, there's a, we used to joke about this,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: the street's named after Mike. only joking because I'd sit
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: there and be doing live shots for Fox 13. Hey,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: there's Holmgren Way.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: There it is right there. How about that?
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I know that guy. I tried to use that around town.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: It didn't get me too far sometimes.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: It didn't?
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: No, but you know what?
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: It got me a good seat in the Italian place.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: I was just going to say, I bet you got
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: a good table at the Italian restaurant.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I did indeed. But, Mike, you've been honored in Green Bay.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: You've been honored here. Obviously, the great legacy you have
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: in San Francisco. Seattle itself, I mentioned you started this,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the 12-man tradition. You helped move this team into Lumen Field.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I hope you still have some pride when you walk
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: in there and understand that this is a lot of
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: what you did. Guys like Mike McDonald and John Schneider
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: now are taking it to a level as well, but
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: you had a lot to do with what's going on
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: now today.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: Well, thank you for saying that, Ian. I do think
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: about that because you know, when we came to Seattle, uh,
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: they were building the state, they wound up building the stadium.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: And if you remember, uh, the first couple of years,
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: because that we were, the team was just still getting
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: to where we wanted to be. And there was a
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: lot of different colored jerseys there, uh, that cause the
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: seats were pretty expensive and it was new. And then
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden, uh, the 12th man emerged, uh,
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: under Todd, I wiki, he helped that. And, uh, Then
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: it became the place to be on Sunday. It really was.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: And now it's legendary. It's very, very difficult for an
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: opponent to come in and play there. And, you know,
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: to see, to be able to grow a team and
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: get to where we got. And I love my players.
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: I love the people, the fans. And, yeah, I do
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: think about that. And, you know, you get into coaching...
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: because I never aspired, and you know this, we've talked before,
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: to be a pro coach. I liked coaching high school.
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: I liked dealing with kids and trying to help them
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: in a lot of ways. And then stuff happened, so
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: here you are. But to be able to coach as
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: long as I did, and I tease people now that
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: we stayed in Seattle because I didn't get fired, so
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: we could stay here.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: That's a good way to look at it. Mike Holmgren
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: joining us right now.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Mike, The crowd, let's get back to that for a
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: second because that can be a factor tonight.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: And, you know, you know what it was like.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: You were on the sidelines for the 49ers for all
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: those years and are in the press box, but coaching
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: with Bill Walsh and Seifert and those great 49er teams here,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: you would come to the Kingdome and they made that
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: rule for a while where, you know, you couldn't, the
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: crowd could get penalized for being too loud. And people
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: might not remember that. It was one of the most
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: ridiculous things ever in sports, but that was a Kingdome rule.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: You came here and you mentioned it. We kind of
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: got away from that for a while. The team went
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: downhill and all those things. But you moved into Lumen
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Field and the 12th man and the crowd became a
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: thing again. And I'll go back. Tell us the story.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: It was, I believe, was it the Giants game? It
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: just went crazy, all the false start penalties and what
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: opposing coaches were telling you. Let's go back to that
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: because that's really when Lumen Field, Quest or whatever it
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: was called back then, became a thing.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: Oh, no. I have a few... noise stories, but Tom Coughlin,
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: who was a friend of mine, coached the Giants, great coach.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: They came in, really good team, and they jumped on
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: sides eight or nine times, and it helped us win
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: that football game, and it was because of the crowd noise.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: They weren't used to that. People weren't quite used to
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: that level of noise. And then I'll fast forward it
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: to Joe Gibbs, one of the great coaches of all time.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: And his last game coaching was against me at the stadium.
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: And we beat them in the playoffs. And he phoned
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: me when he wanted me to hire somebody else as
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: a coach after he retired. And he goes, Mike, now
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: tell me, I know you piped in noise, didn't you?
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: And I said, Coach, because he was a mentor to
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: me and he was a friend. And I said, honestly, no. Coach,
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: we didn't. It was just the people in the stands.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: And he goes, no, come on, come on. I've been
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: a coach a long time. I've never heard anything quite
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: like that. And I know you did, but did you?
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: And I said, I'm telling you the truth. We didn't
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: do it. And he goes, look it, look it. I'm
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: back now doing my car racing thing back on the
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: East Coast. Someday you'll come and visit me, and you'll
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: tell me the truth. You'll tell me the truth then.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: I said, okay, I'm telling you the truth now. But,
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, it was hard. And I think teams now,
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: it seems like a lot of them, you know, you
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: look at guards now turning around and looking at the
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: quarterback and then tapping people on the leg and doing
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: all that sort of stuff to deal with the noise level.
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: And you never saw that before, ever.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Nope, no.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's, I think back to.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: You know, I was lucky enough to get to cover
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: this team for years, home and away, and saw all
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: the stadiums in the NFL. And I've been to Arrowhead
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: a number of times and others. I'll go to my
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: grave when this place is going. And the way Paul
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: built the stadium, right? That was part of it, the
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: way he built the stadium. For acoustics, he's a music guy.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: He wanted to have concerts here. We've had some great
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: concerts over the years. But the way he built this...
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: He built it to have the noise be what it is, right?
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: That's why Lumen Field was built the way it was.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Paul had a vision, correct?
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: He absolutely did. And to your point, you know, I've
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: coached in every stadium in the league as an opponent. And,
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: you know, people talk about Kansas City or they talk
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: about Buffalo or they talk about any number of teams
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: where it's really loud in those places. It's not even close.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: It's not even close. Because, you know, we didn't have
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: to do too much, and we were able to function
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: as an offense and snap the ball, you know, even
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: with the noise. And their fans were wild and crazy,
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: but it's nothing like here.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Nothing at all. Not even close.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I think my favorite memory still is, you know, I
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: was living out it. I wasn't back in Seattle yet, but,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: you know, the Coughlin game with the Giants was one thing.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: The conference championship in 2015, or January of 2006, I
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: should say, when you beat the Panthers 34-14. I thought
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: that was it. I thought that was kind of the–
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: that's the day that, Mike, to me it set the bar.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: You had everything going.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: You had a great team, great offensive line, and oh,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: by the way, the crowd made a difference that game
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and drove Steve Smith and the Panthers and DeLome crazy
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: that game.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: No, they really did. And DeLome later played for me.
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: We signed him when I was in Cleveland. As the president,
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: we signed DeLome, and he and I would joke about
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: that because they came in, and they were prepared for noise.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: But he goes, Mike, he goes, and it was at
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: the end of his career. He'd done a lot of
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: good things. But he was a veteran quarterback, and he knew.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: And he came in and he said, I could not
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: communicate in the huddle with guys two inches from my mouth. And,
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: you know, I just couldn't. It was just too hard.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I would just say that for Seahawks fans driving in today,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: if you're hearing Mike, that's your cue to make sure
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: tonight you make a difference.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Period. End of story. I've got two quick football questions
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: for you. One would be this.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I know you talked about this with Softee for those
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: who missed it the other day. Quinton Nelson comes in
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: at left guard. He moves Zabel to right guard for
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: this week. What kind of difference in the five days
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: that a guy like Nelson is as good as he
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: is in the position, can he make a difference in
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: game one? What kind of transition is it for him
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: and what kind of transition is it for Gray's able
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: to go from left to right?
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: Well, I think Nelson's going to come in. He's going
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: to not miss a beat. He's a veteran. He's been
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: playing a long time. He's been so good. And the
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  Speaker 6: key there is communicating with the center and his left tackle.
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  Speaker 6: Make sure he's got the calls. He's got to learn those.
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  Speaker 6: But it's not going to be too complicated, and he's
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  Speaker 6: been at it a long time. He's going to be good.
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  Speaker 6: I think the challenge would be for the left guard
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  Speaker 6: moving to right guard. And I think because your stance
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  Speaker 6: is a little different, and I always equated it with
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  Speaker 6: wide receivers. Jerry Rice was always lined up on our right,
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  Speaker 6: and every once in a while Bill Walsh wanted him
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  Speaker 6: to go to the left side. And you go, okay,
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  Speaker 6: what's the big deal? It was hard to determine what
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  Speaker 6: the big deal was, but it was a big deal.
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  Speaker 6: He wasn't quite the same. And so I think in
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  Speaker 6: the offensive line, though, His stance and the things he's...
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  Speaker 6: But he'll get that because he's a good player. He's
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  Speaker 6: a hardworking guy. But there will be a little bit
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  Speaker 6: of a new adjustment for him, I believe.
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  Speaker 3: My final thing is, and we're going to talk to
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  Speaker 3: Hugh coming up at 1. I'm going to ask... Hugh
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  Speaker 3: brought this up in the morning. JSN is great. Listen,
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  Speaker 3: you had.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, I'm old, so I'm going to just go down
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  Speaker 2: and say it. Sorry, Jerry Rice is the best receiver
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  Speaker 2: in the history of the NFL. Somebody can prove me
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  Speaker 2: otherwise at some point, but to me, he's the best ever.
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  Speaker 2: But he didn't catch every ball in San Francisco. Now,
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  Speaker 2: you also had a great one in John Taylor, and
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: he had a great tight end and a good running
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: back to catch the ball. So you had other weapons,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't just the Jerry show in San Francisco.
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  Speaker 2: JSN is getting the vast majority of the targets and
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: the catches. Is that sustainable, Mike, or does Horton, She
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: heeds out tonight, but does Horton or Kup or some
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: other guys have to step up?
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  Speaker 6: I believe they do. I've said it all season long,
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: and I've talked to Dave about it on the show
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  Speaker 6: a little bit. It's hard for me to believe that
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: he is so open all the time, that the defenses
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: aren't doing something else. If I'm playing against him, like
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: we played against, you mentioned it, with Steve Smith in
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  Speaker 6: the championship game. Yeah. He's the one guy. He's the
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: one guy that can beat you by himself almost. So
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: you take him away. You try and take him away.
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  Speaker 6: And there are ways to do that, even with a
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  Speaker 6: guy as great as JSN, or at least slow him
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  Speaker 6: down a little bit. And so I think it'll be
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  Speaker 6: important for other guys to show up. And, you know,
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: the tight end was always a big part of anything
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  Speaker 6: we did in any team I ever coached. And I
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: think the Seahawks start using the tight end some more.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: You know, it's okay. You know, you've got to spread
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  Speaker 6: the ball around a little bit to make your offense
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: as good as it possibly can be. That's what I
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: want to see. But it's remarkable what he's doing because
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  Speaker 6: I know teams are having this discussion in the defensive room,
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  Speaker 6: but they cannot stop him, it seems like. And then
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: in tough situations, when it's close and he is covered
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  Speaker 6: and the ball's there, he catches it in traffic. I mean,
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: he's a tough, and he's not the biggest guy in
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: the world either. So he is spectacular, and, oh, boy,
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: he would have been fun to coach.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, I just– wait, real quick. So you're telling me
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: defensive coaches are trying to game plan against you? Okay,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I just want to double-check.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: I just want to double-check.
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: If they're not, if they're not, I'll phone every offensive–
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: every head coach in the league and say, go in
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: the defensive room and tell them.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Number 11 is good at football. You guys should know
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: that is your scouting report going in.
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: Gee, I don't know what they do.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: By the way, Mike Holmgren every Thursday is brought to
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  Speaker 2: Mike at checkout for your discount. That's a good place
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  Speaker 2: to go get tickets for tonight's sold-out game. one thing
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: for you before you go. You will be up there
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: with your family, which I think is awesome, and that's
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: the best part about it, to share it with kids, grandkids,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: and all that, raising that 12th man flag. They will
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: see what Dad and Grandpa meant to this city, which
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: is an immense amount, what you meant to this city
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  Speaker 2: and what you do mean to this city, Mike. It's
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: not a thing where they hear from you, they just
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: see you. So what would you tell Seahawks fans watching
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: you tonight when they're going bananas and that flag goes up?
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: I would tell them that it's an honor of a lifetime.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: And the other thing I'd say, I'm so proud of
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: how the people have responded. You have responded to this
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: football team all these years. That's what I would tell them.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: And I would tell you thank you for what you've
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: done for our city. You took, I mentioned this earlier,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: we had a team going pretty well for a while
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: with Chuck Knox and Mike McCormick. They gave us some
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: legitimacy and did a great job. You took it to
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: levels that we'd never seen or could dream of before,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: and we're still seeing that today. You're a guy that
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: worked for you named John Schneider. You might know him.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: He worked under you and for you and knows you well,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: and I don't think he's here if it wasn't for
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Mike Holmgren, and we're not having a packed bar at
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: noon across the street. We're not having the success we're
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: having without Mike Holmgren. So on behalf of the fans,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I'll just tell you, A, thank you, and B, I
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: miss you every week, but I love listening to you
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: with Softie and Dick every week.
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  Speaker 3: Courtesy of Venue King. So thanks for popping on today, Mike,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: and have fun tonight. Enjoy the moment.
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, you're very kind. And I want to
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: tell you, I miss you too. And I miss Ashley.
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: And you guys do a great job. But I think
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: I could help a little bit if you wanted me to.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Well, I may ask one time, all right? Here's the thing.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Much like when Jessamyn was my producer, people don't usually
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: say no to Jessamyn or Ashley.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: I can usually, when they call, it's usually, yeah, yeah,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I can probably do something.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: So we may check with your agent, Softy, and others
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: down the road and get you on it because I
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: love having these conversations.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: We'll do it again before the end of the year, Mike.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Enjoy the night tonight.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: Thank you, buddy.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: That's Mike Holmgren. We'll take a quick break. Come back
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: with more 93.3 KDRFM. coming field, getting ready. The place
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  Speaker 2: is already packed, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: Already jammed. It's awesome.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Getting ready for the Seahawks and the Bears today. Coming
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: up 5-15 kickoff. And away we go. Seahawks and Bears
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: on Monday night football. A big thanks to Mike Holmgren
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: for popping on with us. He's doing the 12th man
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: flag tonight, so make sure you're there for that right
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: before kickoff. Great stuff from Mike. We'll podcast that later.
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  Speaker 2: And you can check that out. Ashley will have it
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Could do that.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so thanks to them as well. We'll take
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  Speaker 2: a break. Hugh Millen, Hardcore Football. We'll do a quick
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: segment with him to preview tonight's game. I got one
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: question to ask him. He brought it up on the
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: morning show. I want him to expand on it. How
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: do you stop Caleb Williams?
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: We'll do that coming up next.