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Nationals cap impressive roadtrip with wild win + Kevin Frandsen makes District Territory debut! · District Territory

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  Speaker 1: Good morning, good morning, good afternoon, good evening. I'm Eric
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  Speaker 1: shell House, Spencer Nusbaum alongside me of the Athletic and
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Franz and Kevin welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Hi.
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  Speaker 3: I just thought I just clicked on a link and
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  Speaker 3: it said pop into something, and I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: it's you guys. It's amazing. I didn't even know your
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  Speaker 3: neighbor was Eric.
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  Speaker 1: Eric shell House. And the funniest part is when people
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  Speaker 1: see it on socials A couple of times they have
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  Speaker 1: told me they think it's Eric's hell House. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Eric Shellhouse, Spencer Nusbaum at the Ethic that thank you,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm here to bring you a good recap
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  Speaker 1: of an incredible road trip in the last.
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  Speaker 4: Two days in Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 1: We do quickly have to pay dues to the Pirates'
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  Speaker 1: pitching staff on Wednesday because they were sharp. Let's take
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  Speaker 1: a quick look at their box score. Spencer, Kevin, you
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  Speaker 1: guys were both there in person. But Spencer, I'm curious
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  Speaker 1: what was clicking for them on Wednesday and what'd you see?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that may be the sharpest pitching staff I've seen
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  Speaker 5: over the course of a day. I don't want to
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  Speaker 5: stand my entire time on the beat, but pretty close
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  Speaker 5: to it. If they threw a pitch over the heart
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  Speaker 5: of the plate, I didn't see it. If they threw
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  Speaker 5: a pitch far away from the plate, it was only
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  Speaker 5: a few of them. The stuff was nasty, Like would
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  Speaker 5: you talk about maybe the old school heads who want
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  Speaker 5: to see excellent command and the new school guys who
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  Speaker 5: want you pumping ninety nine. I mean, they were doing
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  Speaker 5: both of those things at once. That was really probably
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  Speaker 5: up there with the best pitching performances I've ever seen
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  Speaker 5: against the Nationals. Franny you probably have insight there too,
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  Speaker 5: but that was one of one. And it wasn't just
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  Speaker 5: one guy. It was up and down. They were really
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  Speaker 5: carving the nets up.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: You look at Mason Montgomery starts it right, he's a
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  Speaker 3: guy that has a lot of stuff, not a lot
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  Speaker 3: of command, but then when he add in the command
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  Speaker 3: to go with the stuff, it's gross. And then you
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  Speaker 3: come in with Cartonen, Majenski and and look, Magensky's a
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  Speaker 3: good pitcher, like he's he's right now.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you're using an opener to get you.
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  Speaker 3: Know him through the first part of that lineup, and
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  Speaker 3: he goes sixteen to two hits, and like Spencer said,
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  Speaker 3: nothing was down the middle, nothing was hard to play.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing.
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  Speaker 3: And when you're a hitter and you feel like he
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  Speaker 3: puts you on your heels the entire time. It's what
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  Speaker 3: Paul Skins did the other night. Right, It like this,
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  Speaker 3: speaking of the truth of it all the Pirates. The Pirates'
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  Speaker 3: pitchings a problem for Major League Baseball. It's a problem.
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  Speaker 3: And we saw yesterday with Braxton Ashcraft to like close
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  Speaker 3: this whole thing out. It was like the arms that
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  Speaker 3: they keep coming at you, not which is philosophy, but
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  Speaker 3: with great secondary stuff. And Magensky had to go in
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  Speaker 3: the other night.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: It was the first game all year that that the
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  Speaker 3: Nats got shut out. But it was one of those
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  Speaker 3: where you're looking at like, why well they quick outs?
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  Speaker 3: You know, they didn't get they didn't knock right out
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  Speaker 3: any of bats, and that that when that doesn't happen,
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  Speaker 3: tends to be uh in a poor result.
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  Speaker 5: When we when we actually talked to Curtis Mead after
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  Speaker 5: the game Game three of the series, we asked him like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: what are those conversations like in the dugout? What sort
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  Speaker 5: of adjustments are are you making? He said, you know,
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  Speaker 5: we've been making great adjustments all year. We know how
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  Speaker 5: to talk to each other. We know, hey, he's starting
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  Speaker 5: to put the ball here, he's trying to do this.
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  Speaker 5: It's like we can't get out of our approach of
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  Speaker 5: looking for a ball over the middle and taking pitches
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  Speaker 5: on the outside. They're just dotting it up so well
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  Speaker 5: that like we can't do anything about that, and that's
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  Speaker 5: i'm sure a very frustrating position to be in as
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  Speaker 5: a hitter. But what he also said too was like, look,
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  Speaker 5: this was a surprise, Whereas I think if you talk
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  Speaker 5: to players were here a year before, you could see
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  Speaker 5: them get in some of these stretches. Here was the
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  Speaker 5: first time they've been shut out, And he was like,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't expect this to happen. I didn't know that
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  Speaker 5: this could happen to this team. So it's a big change.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm a huge money ball guy. Only two
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  Speaker 1: free passes from the Pirate staff over the course of
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  Speaker 1: the game. It's gonna be hard when they're only handing
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  Speaker 1: out two. In the day and age, it's rare to
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  Speaker 1: see a box score zero walks. The Nats pitching turned
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  Speaker 1: in a fabulous outing yesterday. The whole team turned in
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  Speaker 1: a fantastic outing in eight to seven win and ten innings.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go ahead and start recapping it really quickly.
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  Speaker 1: An unventful first four innings, but in the top of
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  Speaker 1: the fifth NAT's got on the board with four runs
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  Speaker 1: in two bizarre plays. Kevin, what did you see there
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  Speaker 1: in person? Well, we had attention ground he three runs
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  Speaker 1: scored on that.
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  Speaker 3: No look, look, So what happened to Jake gerviin the
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  Speaker 3: other night with CJ up the middle right ground ball
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  Speaker 3: up there, he could have gone his second for the
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  Speaker 3: out and but it was like that in between where
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  Speaker 3: you don't know if your momentum is gonna take it
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  Speaker 3: be Bus was pushed over a little bit, so he
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  Speaker 3: wasn't able to get there in time to like force it,
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  Speaker 3: and he threw one away and run scores well. Connor
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  Speaker 3: Griffin in this gets one going towards that bag. If
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  Speaker 3: he keeps going to fires it through, he gets the out.
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  Speaker 3: But he tried to go for the double playball Loo
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  Speaker 3: was pushed way over and so he was gonna be
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  Speaker 3: late to it. I liked the decision by Connor Griffin
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  Speaker 3: not to you know, force it as far as the feed,
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  Speaker 3: but he probably just should have gone to first and
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  Speaker 3: and and here's the deal, Like when the seam went
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  Speaker 3: straight into the bag, like straight into it hard low
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  Speaker 3: and he clipped him. Kids not used to getting hit
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  Speaker 3: and he is a monster. That kid is huge, and
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  Speaker 3: so for him to get kind of uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like you just think about blindsided by it, like a
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  Speaker 3: quarterback being blindsided in the pocket, right, And that's what
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  Speaker 3: it looked like. He just spiked it and went left
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  Speaker 3: and then the seam Like for me, was that that
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  Speaker 3: ends up being in the SEAMNA is in a nutshell
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  Speaker 3: for me? Continue to play, don't let you know, there's
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  Speaker 3: no continuing the football theme on it. There's no whistle,
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  Speaker 3: you know, keep playing through. He ends up scoring and
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  Speaker 3: and look it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was.
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  Speaker 3: Chock it up in that kid's brain for Connor Griffin,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like that play has happened now and probably
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  Speaker 3: never going to see that happen to him again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, moving forward, I mean, I don't think you're going
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  Speaker 1: to see any linebackers coming across the middle of field
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  Speaker 1: and nass guy. But at that, at that speed and
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  Speaker 1: at that forced and momentum, I don't want to see
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  Speaker 1: that coming my way either. And then, as you said,
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  Speaker 1: nas just continuing the play. When I was watching on TV,
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  Speaker 1: I just assumed, okay, we scored two runs on this, No,
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  Speaker 1: we score three. We actually get four on the back
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  Speaker 1: pick that allowed Luis to score in the top half,
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  Speaker 1: but the Pirates responded him in the bottom half. Invisible man,
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  Speaker 1: Yes is the bottom half. The Pirates came right back
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  Speaker 1: and bopped Marcelo Zuna with a home run. Foster Griffin's
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  Speaker 1: final line was five innings and a third, four and
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  Speaker 1: runs and seven punch outs. He was dealing yesterday, Spencer,
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  Speaker 1: did you notice anything moving different? I mean, it's been
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  Speaker 1: fantastic this season. Fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: I don't even want to say it was different. I
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  Speaker 5: mean that's kind of the Foster we've come accustomed to.
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  Speaker 5: It's funny. It's actually on foul Territory the other day,
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  Speaker 5: trying to explain where this NAT's pitching staff has ground
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  Speaker 5: to make up, and it is and the you know,
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  Speaker 5: throwing hard and throwing pitches that are nasty and whatnot,
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  Speaker 5: and they're like, well, then explain Foster Griffin. I was like,
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  Speaker 5: it's not the traditional look that you're gonna get from
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  Speaker 5: a hit from a pitcher, but there's still a lot
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  Speaker 5: of movement on those pitches. He's he's you know, bucketing
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  Speaker 5: them in different velocity groups. Every pitch teems to have
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  Speaker 5: a different shape, which like you see other guys with
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  Speaker 5: six pitches and like some of them kind of are
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  Speaker 5: the same pitch or moving really similar. He's just able
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  Speaker 5: to dial it up and navigate a lineup in a
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  Speaker 5: way that you just you see from like maybe the
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  Speaker 5: U darvishes of the world, and like a handful of guys,
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  Speaker 5: but there really aren't too many pitchers that you're gonna
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  Speaker 5: face like that. If you're a team that has a
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  Speaker 5: trajection machine, all of a sudden, you got to prepare
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  Speaker 5: for seven of those before the game, as opposed to
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  Speaker 5: two or three.
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  Speaker 4: Looks.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's a it's a really tough look for team
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  Speaker 5: to square up. And I think what you saw is, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: maybe towards the end you'd want to see a different
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  Speaker 5: final line, but if you take the season as a whole,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this is exactly what the Nats would have
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  Speaker 5: wanted to get from the guy. And Franny, I'm curious
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  Speaker 5: when you're you know, maybe putting yourself in the shoes
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  Speaker 5: of a guy who's facing that? Like, how do you
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  Speaker 5: even prepare for that before a game?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: I like those are the guys are handled right?
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  Speaker 3: Because I feel like they have so many pitches and
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  Speaker 3: it's like you you don't worry about much, Like you
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  Speaker 3: have seven pitches to worry about. But is he gonna
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  Speaker 3: be able if he can land all seven of them
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  Speaker 3: for strikes in that game? Okay, maybe we have we
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  Speaker 3: have to work on that, but uh, I think more
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  Speaker 3: or less, you weigh them out as much as you can.
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  Speaker 4: You can't be too quick to get out of the box.
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  Speaker 3: Like And the other thing to me is if you pull,
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  Speaker 3: if you try to pull them, that that might be
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  Speaker 3: that that might be it right because if you're thinking
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  Speaker 3: about going the other way, he's gonna dart you in
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  Speaker 3: with the cutter.
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  Speaker 4: If he's gonna you know, you're gonna think up the middle.
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  Speaker 3: Fine, I think you got to just try to go
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  Speaker 3: corner shots on him because if you can't hit, if
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  Speaker 3: you can't hit a ball into the left field corner,
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  Speaker 3: if you're a right handed hitter, it's probably a ball.
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  Speaker 5: Then why do you think teams haven't been able to
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  Speaker 5: swear them up yet?
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  Speaker 3: Because people don't think like that, and I just think
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  Speaker 3: about it, like go back to Trey Turner's third au
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  Speaker 3: bat against him in Philly.
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  Speaker 4: We saw him cheat completely to it. Right, where do
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  Speaker 4: you hit it to the left field, like just just
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  Speaker 4: over left field? Right? He had to get there, and
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  Speaker 4: he had to cheat to go there. And you he's
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  Speaker 4: one of those guys that you can't just think like
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  Speaker 4: stay up the middle, stay up the middle.
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  Speaker 3: Like everyone always used to say. Right, you got to
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  Speaker 3: hammer him. And and he is playing to himself, not
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  Speaker 3: to the hitter. I feel like right like he is,
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  Speaker 3: I am pitching my game no matter what, and whoever's
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  Speaker 3: in the box, I don't care. The force seemer is
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  Speaker 3: not a great pitch, but it is when he barely
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  Speaker 3: uses it and uses it in the right moments. Right,
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  Speaker 3: So like you use that cutter the sweeper. The fact
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  Speaker 3: that the cutter and the sweeper looks so similar for
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  Speaker 3: me out of the hand, that's the part where I
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  Speaker 3: feel like he can even get more out of.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 5: And you guys even put up that graphic before the
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  Speaker 5: game where you have like where every pitch is going
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  Speaker 5: and what the like what.
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  Speaker 4: The average is? Yeah, yeah, and like four of.
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  Speaker 5: Those pitches had a zero on it like that shows
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  Speaker 5: you like what he is dialing up, and now guys
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  Speaker 5: aren't able to maybe adjust to that.
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  Speaker 3: And a big thing is like when you have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of those pitches, you have to have the there's
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  Speaker 3: a reason you have all those pitches, right, and and
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  Speaker 3: not everybody can handle having that amount of a repertoire.
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  Speaker 3: Like you talked to Foster now, like it is it
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  Speaker 3: is very evident he is so good with seven pitches.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's not like over complicating things, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Like he is very like.
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  Speaker 6: This is me.
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  Speaker 4: You guys, you guys talk about it. It's just me.
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  Speaker 1: As I was driving to my lunch break yesterday, I
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  Speaker 1: was listening to the start of the game the guys
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  Speaker 1: on the radio. He's got set in different pitches. He
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: calls his own pitches and I'm immediately taking note of that.
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  Speaker 1: I weighs seven different pitches. We got to talk about
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  Speaker 1: this tomorrow anyways. The Gnats answer in the topics, listen
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  Speaker 1: to the Nationals TV. I should listen to Nationals TV.
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  Speaker 1: But they do a great job. They do a great
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  Speaker 1: job on the radio as well. They're all great. Today
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  Speaker 1: is the first broadcast where you all be put on
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  Speaker 1: the local market. That'll be exciting. Yeah, first against the Giants. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we will preview. We will preview that Giant series soon.
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  Speaker 1: But in the top of the six the Nationals strike
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  Speaker 1: back all the two outs. These scrappy gnats a two
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  Speaker 1: out double and then a sorry two out single and
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: a two out double. Don't call them scrappy nats.
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  Speaker 4: They are there. At the data.
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  Speaker 1: Bottom of the sixth, we turn over to the bullpen.
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  Speaker 1: We see the highs and the lows of defense. In
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, that play for Nas to cut off the
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  Speaker 1: run of the plate textbook, Franny textbook, all right day.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard to describe this kid. Man he is. He's
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  Speaker 4: a wizard. He is so damn good.
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  Speaker 3: His cadence right like it is, I think that's what
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  Speaker 3: people you know, talk a little bit about. But like
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  Speaker 3: his cadence at shortstop, at second base, it's uncanny man
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  Speaker 3: and his ability to think ahead of things where he
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  Speaker 3: puts himself, his body positioning like he was never out
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  Speaker 3: of control on that backhand short hop, staying through it right,
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  Speaker 3: Like that's one where you see guys play through it
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  Speaker 3: and kind of stumble a little bit right because there
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  Speaker 3: the moment.
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  Speaker 4: Catches up with it.
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  Speaker 3: But it's like there you see, being prepped before knowing
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  Speaker 3: what you're gonna do, thinking about I'm not gonna get
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  Speaker 3: a routine ground ball, I'm gonna get a bad hop, right,
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  Speaker 3: and he.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, okay, play catch? And where where did he
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  Speaker 4: throw the ball?
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  Speaker 3: Not to home but just the right side of home
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  Speaker 3: so that Caber could get it and put down a
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  Speaker 3: great tag, which I think is another thing, right. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Caber it's been awesome behind the plate, but that play
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  Speaker 3: in itself, He's not been great at tagging the last
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  Speaker 3: few years, right, And a lot of it is not
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  Speaker 3: all of it is on him, right, It's about positioning
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  Speaker 3: the ball where it's being thrown. And what Nas did
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  Speaker 3: to just the right side of the home plate that
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  Speaker 3: allowed him just to drop down instead of like reaching
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  Speaker 3: around and spinning around to do it. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: thought that was a huge play. But man, just watching
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  Speaker 3: that kid, he makes.
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  Speaker 4: You smile, dude, he does, And I was.
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  Speaker 1: It reminds me of happening. I just see it's second
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  Speaker 1: back in the day because of the arnyas but continue Spencer.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, yeah, I was just gonna say I was talking
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  Speaker 5: to him. I think during one of the exhibition games
• 13:41
  Speaker 5: before the season, because I wanted to do a story
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  Speaker 5: that was more visual, look of like how he prepares
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  Speaker 5: for the game and how he is able to make
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  Speaker 5: reads like that, you know, in the heat of the moment.
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  Speaker 5: And what he told me is like, that's something. You know,
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  Speaker 5: we talked so much about the Nationals doing early work
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  Speaker 5: this year, and I think that's a huge thing. He
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  Speaker 5: looks like he's been doing it his whole life, because
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: he has been doing it his whole life, Like this
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  Speaker 5: is a raid he's made before. This is the preparation
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  Speaker 5: he's made before. He honestly doesn't even need to do,
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  Speaker 5: you know, extra early work on the defensive side these days,
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  Speaker 5: just because he's spent, like from the moment he touched
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  Speaker 5: a baseball, this has been his entire processing. Is just
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  Speaker 5: figuring out how to make plays like that, how to
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: put himself in uncomfortable positions. And you see it on
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  Speaker 5: the field, and I'm sure to a certain extent you
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  Speaker 5: stay on the broadcast, but when you see off the bat,
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  Speaker 5: the way that he moves and how quickly he gets
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  Speaker 5: to baseball's I mean, it really is such a joy
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  Speaker 5: to watch. It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he has been phenomenal there on the right side,
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  Speaker 1: on the left side of the diamond, even an outfield
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  Speaker 1: last season, if you can remember wherever they put him
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  Speaker 1: in the field, he has been incredible. Move ahead to
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: the top of the seventh inning. We hope Jacob Young
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: is okay. I don't know how he continued to stay
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: in this game, but the Pirates issued two two strike
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: hit by pitches in this game. The Nationals let the
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Pirates kind of play their game. Great hustle from Dalen
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: legging that ball out. My friend and said, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's maybe not listen.
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  Speaker 4: He hustled.
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  Speaker 1: He when he saw, hey, there's gonna be played a
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  Speaker 1: second or boom takes off. Great hustle, and I think
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  Speaker 1: kind of a test to kind of the whole game
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  Speaker 1: that the entire team is playing right now, hard ninety hard,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: one eighty run until they tag you. So the Nationals
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: take the lead there in the seventh inning. We get
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: the seventh and eighth from Varlin and Perez. They look
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: really sharp. Sign L two strikeouts last night. He's looked
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: a lot better in his last few outings. Franny, I'm curious,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: is there anything you've noticed that has looked different on
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: who sign l Perez it's cnl CNL.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: Oh put some respect on the name.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: I do. I've been beating too many baseball cards.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: No, so.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: A man, he's he's a different one because you look
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: at it and you're like, the stuff's there, right.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: How many times you.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Have a guy that has a slur of and a
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: curveball right, like they morph into one another. And then
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: you know, yesterday we saw a couple that pumped in
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: there at ninety seven, right like ninety eight, and you're like,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: we haven't seen that a whole lot this year. It's
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: the proof that it is April, right, and it's still
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: these guys are building up and they didn't. It's not
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: like these guys had like a ton of Indians in
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: spring training, you know. And I do think that's a
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: part of the slow start too. It's not like a
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: normal build, I feel like, but he's being put in
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: these situations. We're starting to see like resilience from him too,
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: rite like where there's been a couple of bad outings
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: and it's like, all right, whatever, Blake Petera having the
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: belief in him and to put him in there, And yeah,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: I liked what I liked what we saw yesterday. Yesterday
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: was efficient. Yesterday was I think more self correctable in
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: the moments right when he threw one that was off,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: like he found a way to get right back in
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: and trust that he was going to go do it
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: like for the back to back slurs, yank one and
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: then just go and do it again.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: And to me seeing him like that, I'm like, Okay,
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: here we go. Yeah.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: And when you look at when you look at for example,
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: like what he did with Baltimore in the past, that
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: was a season that did not go right for him,
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: and a guy can really handle that. One of two ways,
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: it's I'm going to learn from this. I'm going to
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: figure out how to adjust, you know, not even just
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: between outings, but mid outing. The other way can go
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: is you can get in your head and you can say,
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: you know, you can try to give yourself all these
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: different cues go one place, go another and just kind
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: of mentally not be able to lock in in the
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: way that you need to if you're pitching in the seventh, eighth,
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: ninth inning, or frankly just if you're pitching in big
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: league baseball games. So he's someone where I think if
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: you talk to him and figure out what he's been
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: able to do just within starts. It really is like,
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: calm himself down, figured out, is every outing going to
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: be perfect? No? Do we know that he's figured it
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: all out? Also, no, it's April twenty first or whatever
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: the date is, Like, we don't know exactly what he's
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: going to be yet. But for him to be able
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: to figure it out this quickly after I think it
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: was a week ago that we were talking to him
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: and he was tipping pitches and he was didn't have
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: command of he was throwing.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: Everything down the middle. He was thrown.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing, is that like to tipping part
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: like it wasn't one it was when you're throwing it
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: down the middle. Let's let's let's stop with the excuses
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: for guys on on that, right, they got to take
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: on it just the middle.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: That's true. But on the other hands, that is another
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: thing he has to figure out between starts, another thing
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: he has to think about. And so yeah, command is
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: obviously the big thing. But when you have all these
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: different items on your plate and then within a week
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: you look like a completely different pitcher. Part of that
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: is the nature of being a reliever. But part of
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: that really shows me that hey, he's starting to turn
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: over a new leaf. And that's I mean for a
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: team that hasn't had a reliable sevent eighth ninth yet. Yeah,
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: you're gonna get your chances if you're able to turn
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: it around in a few games.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:00
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• 19:02
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• 19:04
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• 19:11
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• 20:27
  Speaker 1: In the ninth inning, there was a play that Kevin
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Franz and I'm dying to hear your thoughts on instant
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: replay at second base you break it down frame by frame.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I think this could have gone either way, and the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: call on the field stands. I'm just curious what your
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: true thoughts are.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Just a stolen base one. Yeah, I think they missed.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: I think we missed it.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I think that frame.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: It's like, so, okay, so this goes back to the
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Jose lobatone in what seventeen Yes, yes, right, this is
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: this is not why replays therefore exactly.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Right like that that like little idyobitty. So did they
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: get it right? Yeah? I think they did. Did they
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: get it wrong? Yeah? I think they did. I think
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: it was one of those right, like it was it
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: you'd never get a full yeah. Yeah.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: So you can't.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: You can't call that guy out there at second base
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and have that be the way that it gets overturned
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and influences game there for the prize. You can't say, oh, okay,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: we're gonna pluck that runner up like totally not implodes
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the rally of their inning, but takes it away from them.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: And you're right, we're not gonna gonna hold this up
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: for five, ten, fifteen minutes over the biggest play.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: The game, the frame where we got it where his
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: foot clip cjs and it like stayed on it.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that could be the one, and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: then they came back.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Then I always go like that one is the the
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: ball nicking the strike zone on the abs, right, Like
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: that's that's not why we're doing the abs isn't for
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: the one that nicks it. I feel like I said
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: on every broadcast, which is that shows you how good
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: these umpires are.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Like if they're just if it's just off or just
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: on and and and it's getting challenge and overturn or whatever,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: that shouldn't be a mess on them, right, So the
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: same thing goes on this replay that's too close, Like
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: that's why the call in the field matters and them
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: being in the right spots matters. Uh As as you know,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: we all know. I feel like there's been some weird
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: ones in the past. It's just saying we all know.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Any baseball fan knows Ricky Henderson's stolen base record will
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: not be touched and that's never Yeah, not to disrespect
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: his speed, but that too many guys will get overturned
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: on outs. Now it's second base, but it's really the
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: play with the bases loaded, two outs, it's a tie
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: game and a little infield dribbler ties it up. But
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I'm curious it's but both of you saw with O'Neill
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Cruz rounding third base and not going home there and
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the runners trying to wait, and everyone's saying, hey, we
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: could score here, because he just simply did not seem
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: to realize that the play was still going.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Well, Tony Beasley didn't go down the line and give
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: him any look. He just assumed that he was going
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: to go. So that's number one. O'Neil Cruz just was
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: looking back the entire time and didn't go. And that's
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: poor base running. That's poor coaching on it, poor coaching, right, yeah,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: because I think it's both. It's both because the play
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: it's on the player to give the coach a look and.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: Like it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Just if if Clayton Beeter doesn't like clip it, it's
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: an out game over right, Like that's just how it is.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Because not like that that spin that comes off of
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: glove sucks, Like no matter what you think, you're like
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: right in line, it just take.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: It goes sideways. You have no idea.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: But for CJ watching him dive back like past it,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: right because he was the backup on this and then
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: kind of get up awkwardly and still find a way
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: to get the ball and get it home, like shout
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: out to him. Man, he's been dialed in defensively for
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: the most part, and it's been like that play in
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: itself showed it. He wasn't in the play, but he was,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: and he found a way to get back up, scramble
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: and get it in.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: And you even think about, like what the coaching staff
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: has preached this year on the defensive side, so much
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: of it is the pre pitch and making sure that
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: at the end of games, like you're mentally exhausted because
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: you're in every single play. CJ again, has been a
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: perfect defensive season. I don't think anyone CJ himself would
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: would say that that's the case.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: But is it better?
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: Yes, And it's exactly because it plays like that, like
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: not giving up on anything, not checking out of any
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: sort of play. He's really been I don't want to say,
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: completely different defensive player this year, but you just see
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: it in moments like that where it's, Hey, if a
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: team wants a franchise shortstop, that's what you want your
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: franchise shortstop doing. Is he going to make every single play? No?
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: Is he going to make every single routine play?
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: No?
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: But is he going to be mentally checked in?
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Men?
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Always?
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Exactly? All Yep, he's so freaking dialed in. I dropped
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: my head on that play watching on TV because I
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: just assumed. I said, all right, well creus On second,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: that kind of speed and as soon as it hits
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: beaters glove, there just wasn't going to be a play.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: He'd be flying around, but he wasn't. And then we
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: get free baseball in the top of the tenth Why
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: why why, Franny you called it the unintentional intentional on
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: TV Spencer, you had this great sweet But why pitch
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: to James Wood here in the tenth inning when you
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: know that he's just going to deliver a base hit
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: through into the right side to put the Nationals back
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: on top. He is so locked in right now, They're
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: all locked in. But James, James, it's clicking the last week. Franny,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: what is it?
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Like when he got the hit on Evan Sisk, the
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: lefty on the sweeper, and that was his first, it
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: seemed like it forever. So it was only his second
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: hit on spin this year. Uh I always I said,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: at the moment, I was like, you wonder what this
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: does for him mentally as far as spin, right, I mean,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: your teams are hadn't really you know, tried to do
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: it against him until the Pirates and the pirates just
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: really exposed go sweep, sweep, sweep.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: The entire time. Well, they got to Dennis Santana and
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: they thought, okay, we got a guy here.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: We think that can you know what? I think they
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: were zero for sixteen against him. Lefties were and it's like, okay,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: but they weren't James, right. And we saw James hit
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: three balls of the track in the last two days
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: or three days that were one oh six, one o
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: four and one o three off the bat. There are
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: fly balls that he just missed like they were. There
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: were three balls that you wonder how far he would
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: have really hit it had he not missed them right,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: And so it's like for me the moment h Nas
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: is out like I'm going, James, why are you walking
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: to the plate?
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Like I was saying that, but.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Then I also said, hey, Dan, I think uh, I
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: think Don Kelly's like us. He's a fan of James.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Us.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I love that cause yeah, so I think, uh, I
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: think we saw something to get ahead and and and
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: and trusting a guy too much over using your eyes
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: and understanding the thick guy in front of you, and
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: James Wood pretty freaking good.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: And even like if you are going to throw him
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: those first two pitches, Like, why are you throwing him
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: any over anything over the heart of the plate. Just
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: keep keep doing that. You don't try to get back
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: into account by doing like there's a reason in that
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: graphic for those who are who are watching visually, like
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: you can't see the other pitches because they weren't anywhere
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: near the strike zone. Just keep doing that, and yeah,
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: he goes James something right down the middle.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: He will It's two decisions, two decisions that that won
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: those games for I feel like the Nats in that series.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, pinchanty for Brandon on Game two in the
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: as what what that was the seventh innen six or
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: seventh if I can't remember that time because I was
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: like it was waiting early. It was early. It might
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: have been because he was.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Going to come back around, right like he was gonna
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: come back around, and sure enough, that's his pad because
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: he's guaranteed in that bad right And so for me
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: that that those two decisions of taking him out and
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: then pitching James obviously costly for the Pirates and Ones.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: I feel like they'll look back on, you know, maybe
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: in a couple of months going like maybe you live
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: and you'll learn.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: But Spencer, you were just trying to, like when I
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: look at this graphic, like you said, there's there's a
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: reason you didn't include pitches one and two because they
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: were not they had no intentions of pitching to him.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: And then this one just missed. It missed bad and
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: they paid the price.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: And then we get to the ninth inning.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I lost my ninth inning or sorry, tenth inning note
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: too really quickly. A lead off single for Connor Joe
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: uh oh, runners at the corners with nobody out, but
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: then a big punch out of Reynolds and a ground
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: ball back up the middle. CJ steps on the bag.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: The game is over. The Nationals win. Sorry, so they
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: don't win the series. They split the series two two.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: They win the road trip big time five and two.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Let's just take a quick look at the Nationals box
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: score from Thursday. Uh, Franny, this is a collective effort.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: But you know who do you want to give your
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: flowers to?
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Orlando robalta man like that, that guy coming up in
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: the last couple of days and and uh, you know,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the plan was for him. Was
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: it to be here for the one game on Monday
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: or was it with you know, did he earn a
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: spot to to come in this game on Thursday?
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Uh? In extra ratings.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Just him controlling the run game is what set him apart,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: right Like you, you have an opportunity for Connor Griffin
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: at first and third to steal this kid flies and.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: He was just he was like a one.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: I think he was a one to one, five, one
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: to two to the plate the entire time. Didn't allow
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: him to breathe change his looks, change all. That didn't
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: let the moment of the time run being on third
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: base change anything.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: And I I just think that it's.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: That was pretty That was pretty gnarly what he had
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: to experience right there in that situation. And then, uh,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: I will say it. I called in the moment Curtis
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: me threw that ball into the stands and I think
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: he should be fined.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: You can't be doing that. Even I know who didn't
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: play in the big leagues. I think, yeah, that's a
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: that's a bad one.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: I don't away esper. I want to.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: I want to bounce off that that were balta comment
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: for a moment because I know the Pirates media talked
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: to him after the game. I talked to to the
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: Pirates manager after the game and asked him like, hey,
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: why are you not having Connor Griffin run on that?
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: Like he's one of the fastest guys in baseball. Why
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: are we not doing that? It's because we're Balta goes
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: you know, one, one, five, one two, like you just
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: you can't run on a guy like that. And even
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: beyond that, I remember last year when we had asked
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: when Robalta got sent down for the final time towards
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: the end of the season, asked Cairo, like, what could
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: he have done differently when he was up here? And
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: he said, he's just a guy that doesn't have the
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  Speaker 5: confidence that you need to pitch in the big leagues,
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  Speaker 5: and which is not something you'll hear a manager say
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  Speaker 5: very often. So when we talk to her Balta the
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  Speaker 5: other day when he got called back up, he said, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: like I just got to learn, like my stuff will
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  Speaker 5: play in the big leagues. I am confident enough to
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: know that, like if I throw it in the right spots,
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: they're not going to be able to hit it. You
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  Speaker 5: saw in that final at bad it was every single
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  Speaker 5: pitch was on the edge of the zone, or there
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  Speaker 5: was maybe one that was more of a chase pitch
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  Speaker 5: and they couldn't do anything with it. It was, you know,
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  Speaker 5: foul ball, foul ball, you know with foul ball and
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  Speaker 5: then that ball and play like that's exactly who Orlando
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: Rebalta needs to be. Is kind of that north south
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  Speaker 5: guy who's touching those parts of the plate, and it
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: was unbelievable to watch him in that final at.
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  Speaker 4: Bat, Spencer.
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  Speaker 3: You think between him and Gus Varland, like what they
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: have shown in the last couple of days. I'm not
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: saying closers or anything, but what they have done has
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: really elevated what your thoughts on the bullpen are just
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: those two guys in itself you can throw on there, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well again I would I would even think about the
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  Speaker 5: righty's because like, this team really loves to play those
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: left on left matchups, and I think that they're gonna
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: potentially cycle through some through some options and figure out
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  Speaker 5: his PJ. Poll Ande guy. But when you have those
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  Speaker 5: those right handed arms who can get guys out from
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  Speaker 5: both sides of the plate, yeah, I think that absolutely
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  Speaker 5: changes what I think about this bullpen. Now again, we're
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: in mid to late April. It's too early to make
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  Speaker 5: any sort of Yeah, I think I gotta check the calendar.
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  Speaker 5: I gotta gotta It's too early to make some definitive conclusions.
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  Speaker 5: But I want to say Gus in particularly the way
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  Speaker 5: that he's been throwing the baseball and the way that
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: he's been doing it in leverage innings, which he hasn't
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  Speaker 5: been asked to do before. He's someone who I think,
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: if you know, like Blake said the other day, like
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: we we need some guys to throw the seventh, eight
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  Speaker 5: at the ninth, if you have if you put a
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: few good outings in a row together, if like Varlind,
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: you're able to like have that ride on fastball, have
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: that slider kind of be able to get guys out
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  Speaker 5: like that is enough to be able to put you
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: in those spots. We'll see how things change. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: he's a guy I'm really looking close at right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to give props to Clayton really quickly,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: because his ability to bear back down there and get
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: one more out made the difference yesterday and got us win.
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  Speaker 4: When I was watching on CD.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I kind of keep it together. I can't recall a
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: game that's been so exciting to watch all season as
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: a Nationals fan. So looking ahead, Oh yeah, Giants coming
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  Speaker 1: to town tonight. I'll see you guys at the ballpark
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: there later tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not even.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Sure what the matchup is. Franny, can can you give
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: us some preview? Is the Giants kind of town? Your former?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I mean this is a little who are you rooting
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  Speaker 1: for tonight?
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  Speaker 4: Uh? Pays me right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like almost twenty years ago to today. No,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: we're almost there. Like when I got made my debut
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: with the Giants. Uh, I'm not gonna say underperforming because
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I didn't know what to expect from them. They but
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: they got Logan web going. And with Logan going at
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: any point in time, he's an ace. He's he's a
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: top five pitcher, top three pitcher for me personally. I
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: know that sounds weird, but it's I just love his demeanor,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: his makeup and everything. It's gonna be a tough task.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: His change up got going again against the Orioles. Last time,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: he left one that might have been a full ball
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  Speaker 3: on the plate, Like all the other ones that he
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: threw were like corner shots, Like they're just like the
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: chef's kiss.
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  Speaker 4: So can you get him over the heart?
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: You know, the sweeper is gonna be a big deal
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: for him today because I feel like there they saw
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: what it could do to the Nats and in some
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: things because the fastball is something they can handle, which
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: is awesome, trust me, Like I'm all in on that.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: But you got to be able to lay off some
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: of the spin and get him over the heart. And
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: it's rare to do for him. But look, it's an
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: offense that hasn't gone yet and at some point they
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: will click and it's a better laden team.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: It just scares me sometimes with the staff that we
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: haven't seen consistently to lay off the middle part of
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: the plate or giving up free nineties allowing that damage
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: to happen.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: And so we'll see.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the mistakes, if any from web tonight across the
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: middle of the plate will be farm few in between.
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  Speaker 1: If that's the right expression, I'm not quite sure. If
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: mistakes happen like that one, I'll use that one. If
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: there's one over the plate tonight, we got to find
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: a way to do damage on it. That doesn't have
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: to be a ball over the fence. You just got
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: to find a way to get on base. He's not
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: going to issue a lot of free passes. He's a
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: nimbler at heart, and there's so much movement on his
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: pitches it's gross. But yeah, we get the Giants for three,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the Braves after that. This is our last episode of
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: the week. It's almost like getting two and one compared
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: to the runtime of our first too. But Franny, you'll
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: be there next week. This is like routine. This was
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: not a guest star thing. It'll be all three of
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: us again next week. Three episodes again next week. We're
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: also thinking of doing maybe like a fan bag style
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: all sort of episodes. So again, we appreciate the support
• 36:03
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• 36:09
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• 36:11
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• 36:13
  Speaker 1: It's been incredible and we'll see you in next week's episodes.
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  Speaker 4: Pease,