Latest / The Cryptid Huntress / Hyena Dogman of the Appalachians with Mr. E of Cryptids of the Corn Podcast
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- 0:07MESA through Mesa b E time may hold on y'all. Hey, what's up
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- 1:38talking about Hyena Dogman and the Hyenas of the Appalachian Mountains. Okay, and
- 1:45this is gonna be a fantastic show. I cannot wait to bring my guests
- 1:49up today. I have mister e here of the Cryptids of the Corn podcast
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- 2:58show today because we have so much to talk about and we get just late
- 3:02last week. I know, we went almost two hours last week and and
- 3:07it was well worth it. We can totally do that again today. But
- 3:09we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna try to not go two hours today,
- 3:13but we'll see, because this is going to be a great show.
- 3:15Okay, So I'm going to give mister E a formal introduction today. Cryptids
- 3:21of the Corn are a couple of buddies with shared interest in the cryptozoological,
- 3:24paranormal, and the plain strange. They focus on the Midwest and the Appalachia
- 3:30regions of the US adventure out of those borders. They cover big cryptids,
- 3:35one off cryptids, some big questions on the subjects of the strange, interviews
- 3:38with eyewitnesses, and a little bit of a science lesson. And that's what
- 3:43I love about them, because they're into the wou side like me, and
- 3:46they're also very scientific about it. So please help me. Welcome to the
- 3:50show today, A Glitch in the Matrix, Mister E of Cryptids of the
- 3:53Corn podcast, Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to be here.
- 3:59Oh, thank you for being being here today and for joining me.
- 4:02I just love talking with you because you are just so knowledgeable and all this
- 4:06stuff and you have the same interests as I do. So I figured we
- 4:11talk about it today, some of these Appalachian monsters perfect were talking about so
- 4:15much already in the ten minutes twenty minutes beforehand off stage. It's it's just
- 4:20how I feel like we just had a full show. We already had a
- 4:24show before the show. We should have been recording that. Actually, that
- 4:27would have been awesome. That could have been a whole other show problem.
- 4:30Yeah oop, sorry, I am the great go ahead, go ahead,
- 4:38the moniker. Uh no, so, and like Jay's not here, He's
- 4:42he's in the middle of his like six vacations he takes in the middle of
- 4:45summer. He literally gets back from one and leaves and gets back from one
- 4:48and leaves. H But yeah, so, like you know, you find
- 4:53a podcast sitting where you find uh your guys and stuff. We're on YouTube.
- 4:57Our first documentary comes out August eighteen, eight pm is the premier date
- 5:02on YouTube. Sorry, really bad Internet. I guess oh, thank you,
- 5:10thank you Duke as I say, I get thrown off everywhere. Yeah,
- 5:15we do all kinds of crazy fun stuff. We have events coming up
- 5:17if you don't mind me shouting those out you meet us or hear us week
- 5:21We have this weekend. This weekend the Hocking Hills Bigfoot Festival. We're not
- 5:28speakers at this one, but we're hanging out. It's gonna be a great
- 5:30one. They did like eleven thousand people a day last year. It's a
- 5:34two day event. It's crazy, it's awesome. Logan, Ohio is where
- 5:38that's at. Literally, it's probably one of the big footiest big foot places
- 5:43in Ohio. The Walmart is painted in bigfoots inside and out, so that
- 5:46tells you anything about the people in the area. They're real into it.
- 5:51And then later on we're speakers at Squanka Palooza and that is August twenty six
- 5:58and that is Johnstown, Pennsylvania. I think that's yet for this month.
- 6:02And then we have yeah, then we have others been you get all that
- 6:05on our website and all that fun stuff. But yeah, no, thank
- 6:09you for having us or having me. Well, of course I had to
- 6:15have you on today because I had been watching some of your some of your
- 6:18podcasts, okay, and can't get enough of them, and I noticed that
- 6:23you Okay, there's one that really caught my attention, and that was about
- 6:27the hyenas of North America and in the Appalachians, Okay. And I had
- 6:32done my research and had been given a target for remote viewing a while back
- 6:38of the let's just say the Beasts of lbl okay, and that's in Kentucky
- 6:43in the Appalachian Mountains out there and uh, in this whatever I was seeing
- 6:47that was attacking this family, it looked like a hyena man kind of like
- 6:51a hyena man, like a dog man type of a thing. And uh.
- 6:56And I've also done some research and did a show on the Beast Javoudain
- 7:00out in France, Okay, and these hyenas keep coming up in my in
- 7:05my research and in my data and things that I'm doing shows on too.
- 7:11And I thought it was really interesting that we would have hyenas or even a
- 7:14hyena dog man here in the United States, Okay, because they're not a
- 7:18regional right or are they? Are they? So yeah, thank you said.
- 7:26This is actually this episode we did was brought to us kind of.
- 7:30We get some really cool listener like submissions. So this one listener named Sean,
- 7:34super cool dude. He submitted his small like he had a brief encounter
- 7:40with a hyena in Lexington, Kentucky. And he was like, pretty much,
- 7:44I'm gonna like paraphrase it, but he was at like a traffic stop
- 7:46and he looked over and that was a hyena. And everybody, I'm sure
- 7:50here knows and everybody listening at home knows a hyena is a very distinct looking
- 7:55animal. Their posture is much more similar to a bear than any a dog
- 7:59or a line where their their front legs are a lot longer than their back
- 8:03legs. They have that higher shoulder look, they have the big ridge on
- 8:05the neck in the back, and they have almost their face is when you
- 8:09really look at a hyena's face, you can tell that they're not a dog
- 8:13or a cat. It almost looks monkey like. They have that kind of
- 8:16human ish like the scary looking face. So that's how they kind of got
- 8:22started. And then I did a deep dive and there's been tons of hyena
- 8:26sightings around Lexington and all throughout the Appalachians. But the two big hot spots
- 8:31we did, yeah, Lexington, Kentucky, I'm sorry. And then the
- 8:35two big hot spots of the pip popped up was Lexington and Detroit, Michigan.
- 8:41So there's tons and tons of between Michigan and the Michigan dog Man.
- 8:46And uh yeah, so these hyenas, they're spotted hyenas and there's brown hyens.
- 8:50There's actually subspecies of both of those. Spotteds are smaller, uh,
- 8:54the brown hyenas are bigger. Yeah, So there we go. There's subspecies.
- 8:58So that one in the top right, let me see you, let
- 9:01me get it right for everybody home. Uh, okay, one's an art
- 9:05wolf ones it spotted hyena. Actually, these two top ones are both art
- 9:09wolves, and the one with the spot of the spots of the spot a
- 9:13hyena and the other one's a digital image of a brown hyena. So ard
- 9:16wolves are actually related to hyenas, but they're harmless. They're insect eaters.
- 9:22They actually eat termite mounts and they get the termite mounds and eat that kind
- 9:24of stuff. Uh. Fun little fact because that's how my brain works.
- 9:30Ard Wolves are endangered because people in Africa are accidentally killing them thinking they're hyenas,
- 9:37and they're completely They look very similar like they are cousins. They are
- 9:41related just in their target can run. Yeah, but they are actually insectivores.
- 9:46So that's a cool subspeed, Like, it's a cool thing that they
- 9:48look they're hyena family, but they are art wolves. Uh, Scott says,
- 9:52I'm sorry, nice, beautiful ahead. Sorry I get distracted everybody.
- 10:00It's easy. But another crazy thing with the Michigan's okay, is right in
- 10:05the Michigan area, there's actually a flock of emu that have survived three winners
- 10:09now in Michigan and are breeding and their flock is getting bigger. Emu the
- 10:15big bird, big fluffy bird. Uh yeah, like it was like an
- 10:20ostrich Yeah, they're same family, same order. It's the Raya Morpha forms
- 10:24or something like that. Uh so bad Internet, Sorry, guys. The
- 10:31emu's basically like five of them got out, like two males, three females
- 10:35kind of deal, and now people are seeing like up to flocks of like
- 10:39twenty five of them in certain parts of Michigan. But we're here for hyenas.
- 10:43That's just how my brain works. So we did. And it was
- 10:48like in the year two thousand and four, there was a bunch of hyenas
- 10:52seen in Lexington, Kentucky, and all through Appalachia. I believe it was
- 10:58even what was the show, like like paranormal caught on camera or something like
- 11:03that, or had an actual video behind a crossing a street and they're like,
- 11:07well, what's this animal? Uh yeah, so that's that basic intro.
- 11:13Where did you want me to go from there? Wow? Okay,
- 11:18Well, I mean I don't know. I just wanted to know, Okay,
- 11:24how how did they actually get here. Okay. Okay, that's kind
- 11:28of like to start off, like how did you get were these the case?
- 11:31Were they native to this land and they've been decimated or they come from
- 11:35Africa? Like did somebody bring them here? Okay? And I guess that
- 11:39was kind of like my first question. So you're okay with it. We're
- 11:43getting to hyena biology a little bit before we answer that one. Yes,
- 11:46okay, perfect, let's do it. People don't realize how big hyenas are
- 11:50because in Africa on these documentaries and all that stuff, you see them next
- 11:54to big animals like lions and will to beasts and all that kind of stuff.
- 11:58You know, we're talking animals that are five hundred pounds two thousand pounds,
- 12:01So you look at the hyena as small and Scott, I'm actually I'm
- 12:07from oot northwest Ohio, real close to the border. So that is a
- 12:09spot of hyena that is the smaller of the two species, and that is
- 12:13not a big spot of hyena that you're seeing on screen right now. They
- 12:18get a lot bigger than that. So spot of hyenas get very large.
- 12:20So the adult measure is anywhere from sixty five inches in body length. They
- 12:26have a shoulder height of up to three and a half feet tall at the
- 12:28shoulder, so those are African. That's a small spot of hyena fighting with
- 12:33African painted dogs. Let's see, where was it my weight? So on
- 12:37average they can weigh between one hundred and twenty to one hundred and fifty pounds.
- 12:43There are adults being measured of the well, let me get to it.
- 12:48Sorry, where was I at? My notes? Some spots, So
- 12:52some brown hyenas in Zambia have weighed up to two hundred pounds. In some
- 12:58of the extinct you Asian population of hyenas, we have their remains. They're
- 13:03not fossilized rains, their bone remains and they waited over two hundred and fifty
- 13:07pounds. So it seems the more northeast hyena populations went, the bigger they
- 13:11got. So hyenas are awesome animals because they are super adaptable. They are
- 13:16found in every environment that they're able to get into. And most of the
- 13:20time you everybody at home probably thinks when you think of hyena, you think
- 13:22of like the Sahari, you think of the Savannah, you think of like
- 13:26Big Africa. It's it is where they are at right now. But that's
- 13:28not where they were at in the last few thousand years. They actually love
- 13:33grasslands, woodlands, forest, rainforest, sub deserts, even mountains up to
- 13:37four thousand meters. Hyenas are great at handling the cold. They actually love
- 13:43it. Ye oh, yeah, they love the cold. They're actually pretty.
- 13:48They're they're very adaptable. And like we talked about off air, is
- 13:52that hyenas are not canaans. They're not they're not dogs and they're not cats.
- 13:58They actually stepped off at the same branch before both those animals, so
- 14:01they're their own subset of animals. Most people see them and think they're dog
- 14:07and stuff like that. They're not. But yeah, so they live up
- 14:09in the mountains. They do like they do enjoy some cold. Now how
- 14:16they got here is a oh before we move on to that, the behavioral
- 14:20patterns of hyenas. So everybody's seeing the hyenas and yeah, they spund like
- 14:24human laughs, they sound, they make all kinds of other noise besides the
- 14:28laugh. That's what they get, you know, they're famous for in large
- 14:31groups. Hyenas are very bold, outspoken, loud, voisterous predators, most
- 14:37of the times scavengers. They're happily scavengers. They're very able killed their own
- 14:41prey. But when there's like lions and hyena or lions and leopards and other
- 14:48big predators around, those lions don't eat the whole carcass, you know,
- 14:52so there's a lot of extra food that you don't have to work for around.
- 14:56So that is the group of hyenas, and that's how their behavior is.
- 15:01They're much more like their pick on They try to run off other predators.
- 15:05Now, there's an interesting phenomena that occurs when a single hyena or a
- 15:09pair of hyenas is separated and they're alone, they become much more cat like.
- 15:16By that, I mean they become much more reclusive. They don't make
- 15:18the loud noises, they're not these active predators. You don't see them during
- 15:22the day. They become much much more like big cats. So that's kind
- 15:26of that both, you know, the big pack hyenas act more like dogs,
- 15:30and these pairs are single hyenas act much more like cats. To where
- 15:33some of their their extent range or their their fringe ranges in Africa, in
- 15:39the in the Middle East, and even a little bit into Europe. They
- 15:43don't know they're there, like they're super hard to research, like big cats
- 15:46when you go into Central Africa and stuff like that. It's hyenas are one
- 15:48of the easiest animals to find. They're loud, boisterous and making all this
- 15:54noise. They're not you know, they're not shy. They're completely opposite when
- 15:58they're singled or just paired, so they can be an environment and they're not
- 16:02dumb. Like, they're very smart animals. They are fully understand that people
- 16:04are not worth the time most of the time. By that, I mean,
- 16:07yeah, attacking the human probably is not in their best interest unless they're
- 16:12very hungry or you know. It's like if you see in Africa, there's
- 16:15actually videos of these women wild hyenas, these are not pet hyenas, wild
- 16:19hyenas by this watering hole and these women are walking down to get water right
- 16:25next to these hyenas and going back up and walking down and go get water
- 16:27and walking right back up. And it's because the hyenas have learned generationally they
- 16:33start attacking people, they're all gonna get shot. It's just not worth it,
- 16:37you know, weapons right, well, it's a defense mechanism being quiet,
- 16:41and you know, it's just like humans. When you're in a big
- 16:44pack, they're gonna talk crap and and heckle people. But when they're by
- 16:48themselves and they're face to face with somebody, they don't really speak up.
- 16:51Most of them. Most of them don't right, right, right, So
- 16:55and then I know and thank get Long Island big Foot for that super sticker.
- 17:00I'm sorry, I mean, thank you for that super stick or Mike,
- 17:03I appreciate that. Okay, go ahead, go ahead. Mystery.
- 17:07Uh how did hyenas get to North America? Uh? Well, thank you.
- 17:12I appreciate that. You're a rock star in the genre. Absolutely.
- 17:19How did hyenas get to North America? Well, believe it or not,
- 17:22hyenas can be owned as pets. And I used to breed all kinds of
- 17:27exact animals. There's you know, it depends on which state you're in for
- 17:30exact animal laws. Ohio has very strict ones Michigan, and Michigan is like
- 17:36a medium state. In Indiana is like a state that has none like pretty
- 17:40much. I've been to reptile shows and they had like five foot alligators laying
- 17:42on the table for sale. Yeah that in Ohio, like you would be
- 17:47in jail. You would be in prison. So currently in this anyways,
- 17:53just saying what alligators and stuff, I'm just saying they're not good pets any
- 18:00right, you should be for me at least I think if you could afford,
- 18:04Like, that's what the permanent's for in my opinion, because that's it's
- 18:07a it's a big price tag because it shows you can actually care for that
- 18:11animal because people don't really you know, it gets eighteen foot long and they
- 18:15eat hundreds of pounds of food. But yeah, so hyenas can legally be
- 18:18owned according to the I believe this was the US Wildlife in Alabama, Arkansas,
- 18:25Nevada, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Wisconsin, and kind
- 18:30of the weird thing is right now a lot of those states at a lot
- 18:32of a lot of states just got taken off that list the last like five
- 18:34to ten years. Uh, those are states that have high hyena sightings.
- 18:40Uh. Texas has a lot of hyenas, Alabama has a lot of hyenas.
- 18:45Uh. Pretty much all of Appalachia, and then some of the northern
- 18:48Midwest has hyenas and they were recently pets there. So, like I said,
- 18:52hyenas are very smart. They two have escaped from the Detroit Zoo.
- 18:56Uh, and they I believe they were recaptured, at least that's with the
- 18:59zoo said. So they are, they'll watch they're they're very it's weird.
- 19:03They're like kind of like monkeys, kind of like you know, dogs,
- 19:07kind of like cats, where they'll actral friendly like a dog and then this,
- 19:11you know, the second they'll could turn around and get you, so
- 19:14you can own them. So but during the reign of Teddy Roosevelt, hyenas
- 19:22or a super common household pet in the entire US, they were taken.
- 19:29So they were you know, this is this is the weird pet trade.
- 19:32Uh. Teddy Roosevelt's daughter had like a big python. She kept in a
- 19:34purse and carried it around everywhere with her. But at this time in the
- 19:38US, we were taking all these animals from Africa. You could order them
- 19:41out of a magazine. Hyena cubs, baby behind his you could order out
- 19:45of a magazine, get him shipped here. And they were super common and
- 19:48the whole US is pets, including President Theodore Roosevelt owned a pet hyena his
- 19:57whole presidency. He kept it in the White House on a leash with him
- 20:03and his name was Billy's name was Bill. Yeah, So they were so
- 20:07common. Even the US President had one as a pet on a leash.
- 20:12So there was this whole this whole period and then they'd get big or they
- 20:18would they would uh you know, they'd try to bite you or whatever.
- 20:21You know, their hyenas still, so people just release him. So we
- 20:25had that one year during I can't remember the actually year, but one year
- 20:27doing theo Words of Volts presidency, this one magazine had three thousand hyena cubs
- 20:33ordered from Africa. One magazine in one year, three thousand hyena cubs ordered
- 20:40for household pets. And just like alligators or whatever else, you know,
- 20:42they get a little big and they're like, okay, well just go out
- 20:45in the woods. So there was a massive pet trade for them during the
- 20:49President Theodore Roosevelt's presidency. And as we've already established, they can hyper they
- 20:56can survive in these climates super easy, super easy. There are hyenas in
- 21:00the western part of Iraq also, oh yeah, they can get all the
- 21:03way. They used to be all the way up to well Russia, you're
- 21:07all through Eurasia and in Asia itself. But that's not the own Wow,
- 21:15So we're actually native to the US, so there was h let me get
- 21:22to them. Hyenas were survived the Mega mammal extinction here in the US.
- 21:26So what's weird about that is that most animals that survived the megafunic extinction event
- 21:33at the end of the Ice Age in North America, they stayed. That's
- 21:37actually a world thing. Most of these animals that survived the megafunic extinction,
- 21:41they survived up until modern day or you know, humans could have wiped them
- 21:45out or whatever, like we talked about with the Dodo and that kind of
- 21:47stuff. Uh So, the weird thing is is hyena survived way past it,
- 21:52up to like forty five thousand years ago here in the US, and
- 21:56then they just disappeared off the fossil record. So what's really weird about that
- 22:00is that nothing changed. There was nothing that are Yeah, they're definitely more
- 22:06related to cats and dogs, but they are their own thing. What was
- 22:11I saying? Now, Oh, so they were here in the US.
- 22:15They want to think like forty five thousand years ago, these these your Americans
- 22:18spotted hyenas, they existed, and they I get so distracted by I just
- 22:26love all everyboy's questions. Uh, they their niche didn't disappeared at chat today,
- 22:32their niche didn't disappear. So what's weird is why did they disappear?
- 22:36Why did they go extinct? So a lot of people think that they've never
- 22:41they just took a much more reclusive role. They were always here. And
- 22:45now with all these hyenas coming in the you know, the eighteenth century or
- 22:48the nineteenth century, all these hyenas being brought in, Uh that it boosted
- 22:53their population to now we're seeing them because they're still close cousins. So that
- 22:57could be how both of those could be how the hyena's got here. Hyenas
- 23:02are comfortable in extreme heat, they're comfortable in the cold. They live in
- 23:04the mountains. They're scavengers there there. They're carnivores. They're omnivores. They
- 23:10eat big game, they're finding eating nice like. Hyenas will eat whatever.
- 23:12They're pretty similar to bears, except just more carnivorous. So that's kind of
- 23:17the generalization of it. So they'll eat your cat and they'll eat your dog.
- 23:22Okay, so they'll eat whatever you got. So this is wild.
- 23:29Okay, So here's my question. Okay, so we get reports now of
- 23:33people being attacked and maldi death by packs of wild dogs. What if let's
- 23:38just say, what if. What if there are actual hyena packs roaming around,
- 23:44like late at night or sometime that come out of these caves and those
- 23:47are what are attacking some of these people. So we just had this year
- 23:51in Ohio, we had a cop the two cops eyewitness a beast, an
- 23:56animal attacking and abyss reading how and they described it as a bear, but
- 24:03not quite so they describe this and they most people like, if you guys
- 24:07look it up, you can find the YouTube like that the guy calling it
- 24:10in and everything like that. But he's just like people think it's a dog
- 24:14man because the way he's describing this creature. But it's like grabbing at the
- 24:17belly of the cow and ripping at it with its teeth by the cow still
- 24:18alive and fighting and stuff like that. So it's all this stuff. So
- 24:25they are there. I think that we'll talk about here in a minute,
- 24:27that there are these portions of these American hyenas that are may be responsible for
- 24:33some calum relations, responsible for some disappearances. Like I said once again,
- 24:37when they are when they are by themselves are in small pairs. They are
- 24:42hyper secretive animals. You will not find them. We're actually have a documentary
- 24:48coming out about hyenas in North America in like two or three months, and
- 24:52I can't reveal who has it, but a biologist by your mine has casted
- 24:57hyena prints here in Ohio. WHOA how big are they? Can? I
- 25:03ask like the size? They're big, No way, and stuff like that.
- 25:10And there's big timberwolves and stuff like that when you see timberwolve tracks.
- 25:12Yeah, but yeah, okay, So so basically some of these hyenas could
- 25:19be what people people claim to see, like Dogman. They think they're seeing
- 25:23dogman or even hyena type dogman. It could just be a plain old hyena
- 25:29then and even getting some tracks. I mean, I had a friend who
- 25:32sent me a picture of a gigantic track the other day. I think he
- 25:36was in Texas, but I'm not exactly sure where he was, but a
- 25:38big gigantic print and wolves were not native toward the area where he was,
- 25:44apparently, and they were they said, he said they were tracking a dog
- 25:47man. Uh, potentially that could be like a hyena or something. And
- 25:52I think there and I do believe in dog Man just everybody knows that.
- 25:56Yeah, just I do think some of these are hyenas, though, especially
- 26:00when you're not expecting to see hinden you don't realize, how like people don't
- 26:03realize how big they are and how different. And then we talked about a
- 26:07hyness can actually spy hoop where they can stand up on their hind legs for
- 26:11a small period of time and look and you don't realize it. You know,
- 26:15they're sixty five seventy inches long. So when they're standing up, they
- 26:18look kind of like people. Yeah, they look like big, scary people.
- 26:22And they do this in as this fan and stuff like that to look
- 26:26over stuff. Uh, let's see anti venom. There's a Goddessshiate with Hinas.
- 26:32She's known as the Power of the Dead. Oh no, it's okay,
- 26:34Andy pets. Oh yeah, I accidentally hit the button before. Okay,
- 26:40if you look it up, there's pictures of these guys in the US,
- 26:42and just think about them on a road kill that they're available in the
- 26:45US for these things to eat. Oh yeah, there's plenty of food for
- 26:49them to eat. Yeah, people like I said, people's pets too.
- 26:55And hey, Angie, I got Angie in the chat to day, she
- 26:56said, are there any pictures of them as pets in the US? US?
- 27:00Have you found corny pictures? Actually? Uh, we stopped in Oklahoma
- 27:03and there's like a kind of like I don't know, it's not that it's
- 27:07not the watch McCall it uh Tiger King Zoo, but there was like Oklahoma
- 27:12has really like and this like a like a private backyard zoo like people's pets
- 27:19and you can like pay like five bucks to walk around their property and look
- 27:22at their animals and stuff like that. And they had hyenas. Uh so,
- 27:26yeah, they're still there. Actually here in Ohio, a lady had
- 27:30two hyenas up until the Zanesville incident here in my home county. Uh So,
- 27:36yeah, there's still people that have them. You just have to just
- 27:40google type at pet hyena US. I'm sure for everybody at home you'll find
- 27:44stuff. Uh. I'm gonna look look for some pictures of that. That's
- 27:48really cool. I mean I can't imagine being like a little kid and like
- 27:52your dad comes home with a hyena puppy. Here thousands of them for years,
- 28:00I mean wild. I never knew that. And they can be vicious,
- 28:03so some of these dog man like what we consider dog man predation events,
- 28:07you know, where these these creatures are young people or cows or you
- 28:11know other things. So hyenas actually have a weird thing they do every once
- 28:15in a while when hyenas want to attack people, they a lot of times
- 28:21they crack the back of the skull and they go for the brains. They
- 28:23attack the back of the neck, the back of the skull, and they
- 28:26want to eat the brains. So there's these like well we talked about the
- 28:32lbl land between the legs that if you want to believe, like it was
- 28:38horrid, the mess the attacks, stuff like that, and that's very hyena
- 28:42like. They're messy, messy killers. Oh wow, trying to keep up
- 28:48with everybody. Oh yeah, I just saw Fred. I just saw your
- 28:52text. I just saw your message. Sorry, I'm I just my friend
- 28:57Fred in Alaska just sent me some interesting things. So, yes, I
- 29:00just I just saw it. Fred, Thank you very much. Yeah.
- 29:06Okay, the idea mystery of their being, Okay, the hyenas are smart,
- 29:11they're stealthy. They can walk on two dern legs. Okay, they
- 29:15can walk on two legs. Basically, that's terrifying. Okay, and to
- 29:22to to think of those being actual like dog men, like where they're like
- 29:26a hybrid of like a hyena and a man. I mean, okay,
- 29:30first of all, how how did that ever get started and made? It's
- 29:34just like a hybrid or these like et s. I mean, I know
- 29:37there's like a whole of the rabbit hole to go down, right, And
- 29:40I know you're given us like the history of the genetics and how the demographics
- 29:45how they got here. But like if we make this other leap into like
- 29:48the hyena dog men, Okay, So if you want to talk about like
- 29:52skink skin walkers like in out West even Mexican folklore, they have to have
- 30:02the pelt of that animal to be able to shift into that being or it's
- 30:04some piece of that animal. So and then like we talked about, there's
- 30:08the African ones. They're actual African like skin walkers that are hyena based.
- 30:15Uh So we had this big import so we don't really see these in Native
- 30:18American legends. I'm the hyena type dog man, but they're very common now.
- 30:22It's like one of the top four that are seen. Like when you
- 30:26look everybody google types of dog man, there's like the boxes. I can't
- 30:30remember what number they are, but it is one of the types. So
- 30:32it is one of the ones that people are seeing enough you're like, yeah,
- 30:34that is so, I think it can be both things that where hyena's
- 30:40you don't you're not expecting to see a big hyena. So yeah, you
- 30:41know, can variant too this big you know, that'd be hyenas. So
- 30:48sixty people can we get sixty? Oh so what was I saying? Oh?
- 30:53So I think it's a mixed thing that hyenas are like when they stand
- 30:59up and they spy hop, when you freak them out and they're like,
- 31:00let's say you surprise one and they stand up for a second, look at
- 31:03it. They look like a person. Everybody's talking about that sun bear in
- 31:07the zoo in China right now that they think as a person in suit.
- 31:11No, that's just how sun bears look. Sun bears are scary looking animals.
- 31:14So this hyena when it, yeah, it stands up for in a
- 31:21suit, I'm very sure that it will just unbear. They are just freaky
- 31:27looking. Uh. But so this thing with them standing up and they look
- 31:33you know, and I think that's a lot of the dog man sightings for
- 31:34the hyena variant that you're just seeing a hyena and weirdly, really weird circumstances.
- 31:41But if you want to go to like the skin changer out, let's
- 31:45say that they did acquire when we were bringing in in thousands of hyenas a
- 31:48year into the US and people just got rid of them literally, Like nobody
- 31:52knows what happened all these hyenas that were being brought in his pets. So
- 31:55what do you think happened? They just put them outside, like they just
- 31:57let them go. Yeah, if these skin changers wanted that, you know,
- 32:05that's a very powerful animal. You know, they're used to wolves and
- 32:07that kind of stuff. But you know, it's very cool that these skin
- 32:12changers could be used in hyaenas as you know, there's their pelts as the
- 32:15shift into them. That's that's a good point. Okay, Well this is
- 32:22kind of switching subjects. Two little tiny bit right now. I had a
- 32:28remote viewing target of the Beasts of Javaudon, okay, And that's in France,
- 32:31okay. And this was something that was going around I believe it was
- 32:35from eighteen sixty four to eighteen sixty seven, and it was terrorizing the southern
- 32:39rural countryside of France and over I think it was three hundred people were brutally
- 32:45killed by this creature and there was men, women, a lot of elderly
- 32:50people, women and children. Okay, and the locals referred to it as
- 32:53labette de Jevodon, which is like the beast of Jevodon. A lot of
- 32:58people said it was a large wolf, uh something. It was something more
- 33:01sinister. When I was remote viewing this thing, I was seeing like a
- 33:05hyena. Okay, I was absolutely seeing hyena. But when I was also
- 33:09in that target, I was coming up with a whole lot of black magic.
- 33:13Like I didn't know what I was looking at. Coming up with it
- 33:15was like black magic and rituals and things like that, which could be similar
- 33:22to what a skin walker is, because people become skinwalkers through it's not it's
- 33:28black magic to get to that. Yeah, it's that level. I don't
- 33:31know. We've done episodes on skin walker and stuff like that. It's normally
- 33:35an atrocity you have to commit. And by that I mean like killing your
- 33:39best friend, killing your mom. You know, that's always like the last
- 33:42stage to become a skin walker. It's an atrocity. You know, it's
- 33:45to show that to gain that power, you know, you gotta do something
- 33:46horrible. So that's a lot of black energy just hanging out in one spot.
- 33:52You know, if you got to kill your mom to get this power
- 33:53or whatever. You know, there's there's many, many things. It's just
- 33:57when you become that you know that they had to do something horrible to someone
- 34:01they loved that, you know, to get to that level. Now at
- 34:04the beast of jav who done it. Almost so there was actually like three
- 34:07hundred and eleven people, like you said, the government got involved, local
- 34:13the king even got involved. They killed a whole bunch of wolves in an
- 34:15area where they were already supposed to not have wolves. There's all this theory
- 34:20that actually, so wolves had just gone extinct in that area like the last
- 34:22like thirty years, we could do to the wolf hunting because people didn't obviously,
- 34:27you know, humans have never liked big predators around their comp you know,
- 34:30around their villages. So there's one theory that it was an animal brought
- 34:35in by the wolf hunters to secure a job, that they went to Africa
- 34:42or they went to somewhere, brought in their monster, released it to let
- 34:45it start eating people and then they could go out and hunt it, you
- 34:50know, so it's job secure and there's all this stuff with like the skin
- 34:53walkers. The one of the guys, it's hard to tell with the story,
- 34:57but one of the things is that he was caught wearing a wolf hell
- 35:00and the belt and all that stuff, and he was like a crazy man.
- 35:01He wanted to be killed after he was caught. But the way that
- 35:07this animal or this thing, this thing was killing people was almost always biting
- 35:12the back of the neck or the back of the head and crushing it.
- 35:15And that's hyena. That's very hyena like. They do that. They do
- 35:20that to people, they do that to primates. The rare occurrences when hyenas
- 35:22actually attack people, it's a lot of times it's the back of the skull
- 35:27and they just crush. You know. If you watch videos of hyenas with
- 35:30big like big mammal bones, and they'll just bite right through them. They
- 35:34have extreme jaws strength. So the back of our skulls pop lay an egg
- 35:40and then like the beast Javadama sine on like time legs, like we were
- 35:44talking about, hyenas can do that. But there's yeah, very and if
- 35:49you look at the back past the canines, the insiders and all that stuff,
- 35:52they're very they're still pointed, but they're very blunt and white as well,
- 35:55or that cracking nature. And I believe that is a brown hyena in
- 35:59that picture who very animal. But so they could have been a witch,
- 36:08could have been all of this stuff. You know, it's it's it killed
- 36:12a lot of people. A bunch of bunch of bunch of wolves were killed
- 36:16in this hunt. So once the king got involved, because the king lost
- 36:22enough people that it was affecting his tax his taxes he was getting from the
- 36:28region. So that's the only reason the king ever cared about these peasants,
- 36:34honest. And he sent a wolf hunter out there the wolf and he was
- 36:37done. And it's like the wolf hunter killed a wolf, and the killing
- 36:40of the human death never stopped. Uh. So there was one year that
- 36:45was killed every two days. Uh, and it was like there was attacking
- 36:51men. Uh what was a question? Do y' all know how hyena's give
- 36:55birth? It's absolutely crazy. It's insane, I can tell you some weirdly.
- 37:00Uh. We need to keep the show, is the show really?
- 37:01Pg? Uh? No, go ahead, We're gonna talk about it.
- 37:07Whatever you want to talk about, you can say it. It's not totally
- 37:12our hardest large mammal to sex because you all can google it. You all
- 37:20can google it. Oh my god, government, show me now the females
- 37:27have with a pseudo penis and educational y'all. Yeah, so it's as big.
- 37:34It's actually you know, it's the lips of they're going to get shaped
- 37:37into the a penis and they will actually hump and rape males and submission.
- 37:44But the males will do too. So both sexes have what looks like a
- 37:47penis, and both sexes hump for dominance. So this is hard, this
- 37:55is interesting. Let me tell you. Okay, So I will give you
- 37:59a little bit of information about that target that I did where it was like
- 38:01the udon whatever I was remote viewing had a very high sex drive. Never
- 38:08I had never in my life remoteview did anything like that. Before. I
- 38:12was like, what in the hell is this? That would make sense?
- 38:15They were literally like, okay, it's both sexes. So I don't know
- 38:20if anybody's been around rabbits like rabbits, female rabbits, male rabbits for dominance,
- 38:24they're just doing it. The show who's boss if they're a little bit
- 38:27larger or whatever. Uh but it's literally zoos have so much like they have
- 38:35to DNA test them to see if they're boys or girls because they can't tell
- 38:40me. The pseudo penis looks just like a normal penis. It looks just
- 38:45like it's you know, it's it's crazy and they just they're monsters in a
- 38:50good way. But yeah, the Beach go On, it was weird.
- 38:54And then uh so I think it was was it Monster Quest a long time
- 39:00ago? Maybe it wasn't Monster Quest, I can't remember. Did an episode
- 39:04the Beast Jeovadon and the Beast they brought up hyenas and whatever episode I don't
- 39:09know. It probably wasn't Monster Quest. But whatever episode it was brought up
- 39:14the Beast Jeovadan said it could be a hyena because the winners, and now
- 39:16we know that's just not true. There's Hyena's love the cold, like Hyna's
- 39:20out in like Zoos and Michigan and stuff like that. Stay outside, you're
- 39:22round. Like people don't realize that. The zoos getting so educated right now,
- 39:29well good, it's fun education. Right now you can say that you
- 39:32know, yes, hyenas both males and females have a penis. Okay,
- 39:37well how about this, mister e what about hyena dogman? Do you think
- 39:43that they have the same thing going on with them or is it just hyenas
- 39:46with the let's say so. Yeah, if it is a skin changer,
- 39:52like this thing that we think that's shifting, I think that they do take
- 39:57on attributes of what animals, whatever animal they're shifting into, whether it's positive
- 40:02or negative. Only on Jessica's show. There you go, thank you.
- 40:07Of course. Of course, we we like to think outside of the box.
- 40:13Talk. We talk outside the box. Okay, everybody, y'all know
- 40:15that about my show. We we we really think critically about stuff. We're
- 40:20here. The cryptodententrius. Hyenas are hyper specialized ice age mammals that survived into
- 40:27modern day. Ancient literature mentions that hyenas magically changed sex. Yeah. So,
- 40:32I mean, imagine if if you were an ancient person and you watched
- 40:38a hyena hump another hyena, and what you thought was the male gives birth.
- 40:43You know, it's it's just what you know, It's very hard to
- 40:45explain, especially when every like I think it was the eighteen hundreds when all
- 40:51the European sellers were killing all the hyenas send back to zoos. They killed
- 40:53so many trying to find a female, and they're like, there's no females
- 40:58of the species. We don't know where the emails are because everything everyone they
- 41:01killed at a penis so they kept looking, kept looking, couple could not
- 41:06find one. And then now we know that it's because literally, I'm telling
- 41:10you guys, if you don't believe me, look it up. It is
- 41:14insane. People have not believed about that before that. Literally, it's like
- 41:17it's a whole instrument. Oh my gosh, Well you all look that up
- 41:22on your own time. Okay, we're not pulling up pictures today, we're
- 41:27not pulling up pictures. Oh my gosh, that's very interesting mystery. I
- 41:31do appreciate that, appreciate you educating us on that. Yeah, I mean
- 41:37we're weird. Well, defense mechanisms, I guess right, and just okay,
- 41:50so these things are not only terrifying to look at. You don't want
- 41:53to be attacked by one. You can't tell if they're male or female.
- 41:59And pretty much the females are dominant overall there. Now are they always dominant
- 42:04over the men or they just like that. That's kind of a miss gnomer
- 42:08thing, you know. Uh, it's both males and females can be dominant
- 42:13generally though, uh but a lot of times the males are bigger and they
- 42:19are the whoever's the biggest one in the pack is generally the most dominant.
- 42:22So if the largest member happens to be a female, it'll be a female.
- 42:25It happs to be male to be a male. But that's a fight,
- 42:28you know. They are constantly Uh so, hinas are very good about
- 42:31when they're hunting and doing all this stuff about not picking fights with each other.
- 42:36Like, they're very good at working together and like, I don't know
- 42:37if anybody's ever seen like that group of lions killing. Yeah, we talked
- 42:44about it. So they're not they're a really ancient order. They stepped off
- 42:50with the same lineage that both felines and canines stepped off of and weasels somebody
- 42:53said earlier. But they're their own thing. They're their own group of animals.
- 43:00Now what was I saying? Oh so that, but in downtime they
- 43:02will pick fights with each other to a certain Dominants are constantly shifting the ring
- 43:07of dominance. So yeah, hyenas looked very violent, but you know,
- 43:12they're very smart animals and like we said that they can end up, they
- 43:15can still have in any environment. They used to have a global range,
- 43:17So one of these animals I had a global range. They were all over
- 43:21the northern hemisphere, in some of the southern hemisphere. As far as we
- 43:23know, they never made it to South America, but they were in Asia,
- 43:29they were in Russia, they were in Europe. Literally, the Euroasian
- 43:32species just when extinct within the last I believe four or five hundred years,
- 43:37there's still some what was it. I think it was like a six hundred
- 43:43year old kind of like like a book with paintings and stuff in it,
- 43:46like some kid was doing or whatever, and they were she had paintings of
- 43:50hyenas. So the hyenas were still around the countryside where this little girl was,
- 43:54and they were seeing him regularly enough that they were still there. So
- 43:58these hyenas, like hyenas or I've always putted up against humans, they've been
- 44:02very good about it. As far as the big mammals that we're worried about,
- 44:06you know, we wiped out the big cats in North America a lot
- 44:08of people don't realize jaguars or native all over North America. And there's an
- 44:14argument about this. So whenever you hear a biologist, I was a biologist.
- 44:17So whenever you hear biologists talk about ranges, keep in mind historic ranges
- 44:22are very personalized, as in that I could have a very different like from
- 44:28evidence and stuff like that, where I think they're jaguars range, and you
- 44:31know, it's a if I can believe a man with two faces, I
- 44:37can believe that. Oh okay, I was like, oh, that's that's
- 44:38a reference to the to the kishi that we talked about last week from the
- 44:44man with the hyena on the back of his head out of Africa. Yeah,
- 44:49it's really similar to the US skin walkers having to wear that, having
- 44:53to put that thing on to become that thing. Uh. And in Europe,
- 44:57the bear shifters, you would steal the bear fur from them, they
- 45:00couldn't turn back into bears. So it's another one of these skin changes from
- 45:05another part or the world that people would literally go out and try to steal
- 45:08these bear shifters. They would start to steal their pelts. Didn't take their
- 45:12power away from them. Wow, But now I'm saying about so this is
- 45:15worldwide. I mean this, this happens everywhere, and it's basically like kind
- 45:21of black magic kind of stuff when it comes to skin walkers and the shape
- 45:24shifters. Yeah, Okay, here's here's my question. If since I live
- 45:30in near the Appalachian Mountains, I'm here in Georgia, I do a lot
- 45:32of my pretty much all of my bigfoot research is in the Appalachian Mountains,
- 45:37Okay, And so if I were to encounter a hyena and I'm not talking
- 45:43about a hyena dog man right now, I'm talking about just a regular Ya.
- 45:45What what do you recommend I do? I mean, don't carry a
- 45:50gun for protection? But what what? Yeah, don't pant it. Okay,
- 45:53that's easy to say. I mean, I know it's I've been around
- 45:58black Bear, I've been around Elk, and I've never been around any the
- 46:00big I've been really close to a mountain lion. But it's the easiest.
- 46:06The best thing you can ever do is not run and not turn your back,
- 46:09because once you turn your back, and once you run, you've become
- 46:13prey until they get in the back of your head right once you do,
- 46:16and it's any it's any of the big carnivores that once your eyes are off
- 46:22them and you're moving away, you have accepted the prey role. Until that
- 46:25point, you're both predators now. In nature, it's very it's very uncommon
- 46:31for two predators to really pick a fight with each other unless the one's really
- 46:35hungry or territorial approachment and stuff like that, because it's not beneficial to either
- 46:37of them that they just want to you know, they want to back off
- 46:40each other. So hyenas are not dumb animals, like I've already talked about.
- 46:44So if you're looking at them and you're presenting that you're big, you're
- 46:46not really worth it. You've already they don't have the cover of surprise and
- 46:52just kind of start backing away, Like have you seen the guys with mountain
- 46:54lions and videos of them just backing away slowly with your eyes on the animal.
- 46:59Yeah, I guarantee hyena is probably gonna go the other way. They're
- 47:01just not wanting the fight, especially a single or hyena. You know,
- 47:05it's defferent one the's fifty of them, but when it's just one or two
- 47:07hyenas, So like Penny here says there's four species of hyena left, there's
- 47:12act so it's two species in their subspecies, which is four species. It's
- 47:16it's like a split thing. Uh. But yeah, so there's basically a
- 47:21two spotted hyena variants left and two brown hyena variants left. I did subspecies
- 47:24kind of stuff for a while. But yeah, so that's what I would
- 47:28say. And if it's a dog man hyena prey, so yeah, they're
- 47:34shooting. Yeah. Yeah, Like I said earlier, I don't know.
- 47:38I mean, they're not cats are Yeah, yes, it's just it's very
- 47:45scary. But I hear about Okay, so we hear about the hyena type
- 47:49dogment in the land between the Lakes area. Okay, and that is what
- 47:52I when I was remote viewing that family getting attacked, I did see two
- 47:57what looked like the only way I could describe it, we're like hyenas,
- 48:00but they were like hyena men. Okay, that we're attacking that family and
- 48:05so and I've heard since then that there have been reports of hyena type dogmen
- 48:10in the land between the Lakes area. Now, are they a genetic experiment
- 48:16from the military. I mean, they do have those things, you know,
- 48:19like making super soldiers and stuff like that. So like Japan two years
- 48:23ago, So once we all know, I'm pretty sure we all here agree
- 48:30that any world government is lying to you about whatever. I mean, I
- 48:34don't care, you just pick they're lying to you. It doesn't matter no
- 48:37way, Yeah, I know, it doesn't matter of the budget or aliens
- 48:39or whatever. But Japan two years ago or three years ago now publicly reversed
- 48:47the world the UN law about genetic hybrids with humans. They publicly renounced it.
- 48:55So that means that they're publicly they're allowing not only they're they're private sector,
- 49:00their government sector to mess with human animal hybrids. They're allowing their their
- 49:05their public sector as in the private you know, business business can now make
- 49:08in Japan can make genetic human hybrids. Uh. And they've probably been doing
- 49:14this forever. I mean in World War Two they were trying to make,
- 49:16you know, monkey men, and they were trying to make all this stuff.
- 49:20Well, Hi, Dave, Hey, Dave Scott. That's Dave Scott.
- 49:25Y'all, thank you Dave Scott for Space dot Radio for that super chat.
- 49:29So sweet of you. Everybody go check out space dot Radio tonight please
- 49:32at midnight Eastern that's Dave Scott Show. I'm a weekend host here. Thanks
- 49:37Dave. So what was I saying I'm bad with this part? Japan?
- 49:44It was japan hybridization. Uh. So that means that they've publicly ad made
- 49:50it that they're doing this. They're allowing not only their own government to do
- 49:52this, private industry to do this. Uh. And we've probably been doing
- 49:57it forever. In World War Two, I believe it, Russia was doing
- 50:00the monkey men with both oraon tangs and chimpanzees and gorillas. But they're trying
- 50:05to make it the old fashioned way though, which is it's it's all gross,
- 50:08but it was really gross the way they were trying to do it.
- 50:14Okay, Yeah, shall I ask I'm scared to ask the old fashioned way
- 50:19of making a hybrid. Oh okay, I'm not sure how that works.
- 50:22But I don't know. Is that is that just like the hyena, a
- 50:27female human and a male chimpanzee in a room. Oh god, Okay,
- 50:32that's what I have to say. That's all I have to say. They
- 50:37try to mind. Yeah. So they tried it the old way for a
- 50:38long time and could never get anything to stick. Okay. Yeah, and
- 50:45then they tried it so today, but I really it's so weird around these
- 50:49bases that like all these government bases and these secret places and all this stuff,
- 50:53these quote unquote secret places that how many of these what I would call
- 50:59big foot like animal they like things that aren't big foot In my opinion,
- 51:04these hyena, these dogman like, all these things are just monsters are mashups.
- 51:08Like the actual when people say that they see these hyena men with like
- 51:12hands and stuff like that, they look messed up, like they don't look
- 51:15like they're in the best of shape, which would you know if there's actually
- 51:19genetic hybrids, You know, you get a lot of problems. Even when
- 51:22we make hybrids and really close like if we do it the natural way,
- 51:25Like I have a bunch of birds, so I cross birds species, sometimes
- 51:29you get genetic kickups and they just come out all messed up. So now
- 51:32you're talking about animals that are not close related. Hyenas and people. You
- 51:37know, we are both have a lot of DNA that shared, but we
- 51:38are very very distantly related. So trying to make that stuff mash up is
- 51:45very difficult, and you get a lot of messing messing this. But I
- 51:49do think there's something like that. These monsters around these government bases are around
- 51:52these things are the land between the lakes where there so a lot of times
- 51:58hybrids are. It's a hybrid vigor is what we have, the actual term
- 52:01for it. And they'll get bigger and they get a lot more aggressive than
- 52:07either species solis. So laggers are a natural hybrid. You know, there
- 52:13are three times the size of a tiger, you know, the biggest natural
- 52:16big cat left on the planet. Uh, but they're generally a lot more
- 52:21aggressive. You know. Trainers still work for laggers and stuff like that to
- 52:23get them to where they're but they're still a big cat. But so if
- 52:28this is something Amiba man wouldn't track minecrypted. The hynd dog man expect to
- 52:36open doors for a date is what? Well, it depends on what kind
- 52:43of hands they have. Depends on what kind of hands they have. Okay,
- 52:46yeah it was open. Sorry, I would not go on a date
- 52:50with a hyena dog man. It's okay. Well, I'm really behind on
- 52:52the comments too. I get I get behind a little bit, but you
- 52:57guys got a lot of comments. It's awesome. Yeah, I do they
- 53:00fly through too, Like I have a hard time keeping up. So sometimes
- 53:06chat today, there's like none for a couple of minutes, and then there's
- 53:08like seve seven of them. I know, and Fred I saw your comment.
- 53:13I'll holler at you. Okay, yes, yes, the genetic experiment
- 53:19thing I mean, high is a very powerful omniveristic animal. Their stomach acid
- 53:22is extreme, so most people don't realize that they actually eat big chunks of
- 53:25bone on purpose. They can digest it them in some buzzard species on the
- 53:30planet, or they have some sorry, some of them them in some buzzard
- 53:36species have some of the strong stomach acid on the planet because I just eat
- 53:39whole big chunks of bone and they will digest it like there ain't They ain't
- 53:44pooping out a big chunk of bone. I'm sure it happens, but they
- 53:45can digest pretty easily. Uh yeah, so I heard of that. Yeah
- 53:52yeah, I mean if you look at look up videos and them crunching on
- 53:54like big calbones and zoos and stuff like that, they're swallowing those chunks.
- 53:58So dogs, for example, will chew up bones, but most time they're
- 54:00going for the marrow inside the bones. Hyenas are just eating at all.
- 54:06They like bones like they don't care. Uh Okay, well, can I
- 54:12tell you what the hyena dogmen were going for? Yes, I can.
- 54:15I got we can talk about that because when when I was did that target
- 54:19and I was seeing like hyena type dogmen, Okay, they were actually not
- 54:25even going to eat. I mean they were eating. They did eat upon
- 54:29at least one of those people there. They did eat their bodies, okay,
- 54:30but they were going for the inside. It was more like the organs,
- 54:34and it was the blood. Okay, it was the blood they were
- 54:37they were like actually kind of trying to scare them first to get that adrenalized
- 54:42blood. Yeah. Yeah, So that to me personally points more towards the
- 54:47spiritual or the demonic, you know, or because like if you now the
- 54:52Land between Lakes thing, like the little Girl was supposed they ripped in half
- 54:55and decorated around a tree like a Christmas you know, like just horrible.
- 54:59The the whole thing was horrible. And then the other Land between the Leaks
- 55:02encounters have all been terrifying, horrible, the one with the cop, the
- 55:06college kids. So it's definitely this fear factor thing, and carnivores go for
- 55:13organs. So a lot of people don't realize this meat is not nutritious in
- 55:19nature unless you cook it. So meat actually almost all the calories the muscle
- 55:22fibers are way too dense for most mammals to digest. That's why they go
- 55:27for the organs. It's much more easily digestible calories. So that's why you
- 55:31see. Let's see, I had seen a video while back of Japan or
- 55:35China had planted brain cells into monkey embryos and allow them to grow for long
- 55:39before stopping the experience. Don't know how true. They do that kind of
- 55:43stuff all the time. They actually have a monkey, they have a brain
- 55:46box hooked up to They actually open the skull of this monkey, plug the
- 55:51computer chip into it, and they can control the monkey using some human tissues.
- 55:55Oh my god. And people now are volunteering to get brain chips.
- 55:58Humans are don't do it. Don't do it. I say, don't do
- 56:01it. I would do that. Yeah, it's don't let him put stuff
- 56:05in your body, but do what you want. Everybody has free will,
- 56:07okay, but you won't have free will if you do that. Now.
- 56:12Literally, so they were doing that like ten years ago, walking this monkey
- 56:15around like it couldn't control itself anymore. Uh Oh, the demonic angle like
- 56:23definitely like this blood stuff with the adrenal chrome and everything like that. You
- 56:28know, it speaks at least alien like things that we have, uh where
- 56:31they want to target this blood, this adrenalized blood, which just to me
- 56:36just screams demonic. You know, I don't know everybody's opinion everything like that,
- 56:40but it's just to me it's very demonic, uh to where it's just
- 56:45it's a show. It's just to look as scary as possible. And hyenas
- 56:49look very scary. I love hyenas, but they are very intimidating looking animal.
- 56:54You know. Wolves kind of yes, almost look friendly because they look
- 56:59like dogs. You know, we have a household pets, you know,
- 57:00the dogs and wolves. So a lot of people, like I've seen people
- 57:04in the up of Michigan walk up to wild wolves, they and their dogs,
- 57:07and it's just like, don't do it. Hyena's don't like. Hyena's
- 57:10look very scary. So if you want to go for that angle to get
- 57:15the most adrena chrome, you know, as you're being your family's being ripped
- 57:17apart, and you look like this thing, So I don't you've witnessed.
- 57:23Are you. I don't know the right words. I'm sorry, we thank
- 57:29you. But yeah, the Corners report talked about how the dad had to
- 57:37be killed by an axe and he but the weird thing was is he could
- 57:42never find and he metal shapes and then we're talking micro metals. We're talking
- 57:46this stuff like like always comes off at axes. So if anybody's killed with
- 57:52the blade, I don't care how nice your blade is or whatever, it's
- 57:54leaving behind traces of whatever metal it is made of. So this dad,
- 58:00he said it was hacked by an axe because these big deep slash marks into
- 58:02his back, I mean, cutting through his ribs. And he's like,
- 58:06oh, you had to swing it, like you had to swing an axe
- 58:08to get that much leverage and force. We're you know, really big,
- 58:12big cloth. So yeah, it could be that whole thing of just putting
- 58:15on this really scary face to really get us terrified. And it would work
- 58:21for me and yeah, brown dwarf. Yeah, in Africa there's hyena men,
- 58:29uh, and then there's bear like men in Europe and stuff like that,
- 58:31or there was you know, we may have they may be hiding better
- 58:35now. Yeah. Oh and okay, so we have like the where hyenas
- 58:40too, and not not to get go off subject what we're talking about here,
- 58:44but we do have like where hyenas. I think I have a few
- 58:45pictures of and the what we talked about last week with the kishi, okay,
- 58:52and the kishi is this a man with a hyena on the back of
- 58:57his head and it usually hides in his dreadlocks. Okay, and and it
- 59:00it turns its head like one eighty right, hold on't see if I can
- 59:06get this picture to come up. Well, it turns its had like one
- 59:08eighty and it ends up killing the one. It only goes after women,
- 59:10by the way, and uh, and it will it will take take the
- 59:15woman and killer after you know, I guess usually it's after they have a
- 59:21child together. A lot of times you to wait and do that. But
- 59:23there's a hyena. It's it's a like a human hyena hybrid kind of but
- 59:28it's demonic. They consider that to be demonic mystery, so a lot of
- 59:31the stuff is considered demonic. Yeah, I would, oh yeah, yeah.
- 59:36If you have an animal your head before you kill them, in your
- 59:44head spins around like yeah, it's like the Exorcist stuff. In there,
- 59:49y'all with with with the hyena on the other side. Yeah, I don't
- 59:53know. I don't know why I'm smiling. This is funny. I mean,
- 59:55it's kind of funny, but it's not funny because it's like, it's
- 59:58terrifying if this stuff is real. I mean, and I believe that they
- 1:00:01don't. These stories don't come out of nowhere, right, you know what
- 1:00:05I mean. I don't care how odd the folklore is, Uh, there's
- 1:00:08always truth to it. So we were talking about about Lumberland creatures, and
- 1:00:15everybody knows, like I'm sure all your listeners know, like the Lumberland ones
- 1:00:19are fun and goofy things, like you know, the squank is this thing
- 1:00:22that cries itself into a puddle. Almost all those creatures, though, are
- 1:00:27to tell stories or lessons about natural events or to teach you, like lessons
- 1:00:32of like don't like, there's all kinds of weird ones. So the squank
- 1:00:37was a natural phenomena of Basically, they'd come out into the woods and they'd
- 1:00:40find these big puddles of what looks like water with bubbles in it, and
- 1:00:45then they disappear once the sun came out. And what it happens is actually
- 1:00:50beetles. It's a way of beetles breed. When they they they these big
- 1:00:52breeding groups of these little bugs create this big puddle of liquid with a bunch
- 1:00:57of bubbles in it. And they made a creature to explain this now actual
- 1:01:00phenomena. So I don't care. I guess that's what I was getting at
- 1:01:02it. I don't care how weird the folklore is. There is always true
- 1:01:07into that folklore. During the war, they saw a soda dog head onto
- 1:01:13another hole dog and it survived a while. Since that, imagine what they
- 1:01:16could do. Yeah, and they've there's actually probably the same band as there's
- 1:01:21experiments Joe Joe where they cut the heads off of dogs and just kept alive
- 1:01:24for a while. The dog would salivate when it was with a treat,
- 1:01:30like when they showed the dog a treat. This head of a dog and
- 1:01:31they had a heart pump and a lung pump for it. H Yeah,
- 1:01:37So that was World War two, like you said, so imagine what they're
- 1:01:42doing today. Yeah, one hundred years later. People, world War two
- 1:01:46is almost one hundred years ago. I'm sorry. Wow, so many people
- 1:01:52don't even know it's okay. I'm I'm trying to decide which comments to pull
- 1:01:54up too. We got some good ones. That's really good. Yeah,
- 1:01:59Kenny said about how many exotic animals live in North America. Florida is like
- 1:02:02a hot spot. Like Florida has more exotics now than almost native species.
- 1:02:07It's insane. And Florida has a lot of native species. We're talking like
- 1:02:10a thousand species of fish living Florida right now. But we did an episode
- 1:02:15called Monsters in the Marsh where which I know you want to talk about dinosaurs
- 1:02:21here, man, so I'll save that. But Monsters in the Marsh,
- 1:02:24WHOA, Yeah, for sure, I just I'm telling you so I remember.
- 1:02:31But yeah, so they did I forget anything about hyena's you want to
- 1:02:36talk about. I mean, I think we've covered a lot of it.
- 1:02:39I mean we've even gotten into like the hyena dogmen that have been spotted and
- 1:02:43I know, like listen, we're at the hour mark. So I figured,
- 1:02:45let's let's okay, So we've pretty much covered that, Let's talk about
- 1:02:49a couple of other interesting cryptids that are in the appalations before we go.
- 1:02:52As you did bring up the dinosaurs, and I have gotten reports of velosa
- 1:02:58raptors in Georgia, particularly the Appalachian Mountains. Is that something that you're familiar
- 1:03:02with? So, yeah, there's so there's a Cambridge dragon, which is
- 1:03:07Tennessee or yeah, Cambridge, Tennessee. Uh, and then there's a Georgia
- 1:03:12raptor, so the Georgia raptor. Everybody the famous big siding of the Georgia
- 1:03:15raptor was a grandson and a grandpa out squirrel hunting or turkey hunting, I
- 1:03:21can't remember now, and they've seen what would be a like a five foot
- 1:03:23tall very veloci or raptor like animal running through the woods and that's it.
- 1:03:28They just seen it. I believe the kid didn't even know what it really
- 1:03:31was when he went online and he started talking in a form. But that
- 1:03:36same year is there was a a girl scout camp about fifteen miles away that
- 1:03:42had a turkey sized animal attacking and killing a sheep on the property, and
- 1:03:47a bunch of the girl Scouts and a couple camp counts are seen this turkey
- 1:03:51sized dinosaur like animal attacking and killing or trying to kill a sheep. So
- 1:03:57it's popped up and then like so the Cumberland dragon Cumberland, Cumberland, Tennessee
- 1:04:00or Cumberland. Yeah, not whatever I said, the Cumberland Dragons Tennessee.
- 1:04:06Yeah, I believe. So it's another one where it was seen by what
- 1:04:12was it? Was it a Civil War? I think it was a Civil
- 1:04:14War army seeing this dragon like creature. They describe it as being about being
- 1:04:20about five foot tall, having a very large plume of feathers off the top
- 1:04:25of its head like a cockatoo, but being very reptilian with a big,
- 1:04:28wide mouthful of teeth. So a very dinosaur like description of that. So
- 1:04:32dinosaurs are popped up all over. And we talked about terosaurs too. The
- 1:04:36US is so arrastaurs, not only the US, the world has been seeing
- 1:04:40terrasaurs, I personally. So here's my thing is that I believe eyewitnesses.
- 1:04:45I believe when people say they've seen a terrastaur, they probably did or seeing
- 1:04:47something they believe as a terrastaur, like, yeah, most like it's probably
- 1:04:53Kentucky, then, Penny, I'm probably wrong. I don't have the notes
- 1:04:56in front of me. What was I saying? Oh, so these terrasaurs,
- 1:05:00some of them are gigantic. So ketzel Qualis was the largest flying animal
- 1:05:03to ever exist, and it was about forty two foot wing span and about
- 1:05:09twenty one ft tall walking around the ground, so it was about the same
- 1:05:12height as a draft with the wing span of a small plane. And that
- 1:05:15was the largest. And then there's like Hexel, which is the next big.
- 1:05:20There's a bunch of big terrastaurs that were flying around. So all these
- 1:05:26all these big terrasaurs. Here's my thing is, I don't think that at
- 1:05:29least the big terrastaurs and these big dinosaurs like the partridge Creek beast. We
- 1:05:33talked about that one off air. This is the eighteen hundreds. This creature
- 1:05:40was seen in the Yukon. These guys were moose hunting, and everybody knows
- 1:05:44moose are very very big, big animals. So these guys were moose hunting
- 1:05:47and the Herda moose they were stocking. They heard a commotion. They came
- 1:05:51out and there's blood everywhere, and they came out and the moose was gone,
- 1:05:56the dead moose whatever. So normally of a bear kills moose, which
- 1:05:58is very very hard to see, like a very hard thing for a bear
- 1:06:00to do. There would be drag marks and stuff. There was no drag
- 1:06:04marks. Just the carcass was gone, so they followed the tracks, followed
- 1:06:09the tracks fallow this blood. Eventually it came out. And keep mind this
- 1:06:12the eighteen hundreds. They see a what is basically a feathered, a very
- 1:06:16very thickly feathered t rex, and what we'd consider nowadays it's called huge Tyrannus,
- 1:06:23which is the north You know that it's called the polar t rex,
- 1:06:25smaller but fully feathered. This is the eighteen hundred, before we even knew
- 1:06:29dinosaurs look like dinosaurs, whether they look like big lizards, and we didn't
- 1:06:32know they had feathers. So they're seeing this fully feathered. They just almost
- 1:06:35described it as a very beautiful duck like but very dinosaur like demos when they
- 1:06:41drew sharp teeth. Yeah, and it's carrying the moose in its mouth.
- 1:06:46The moose isn't dragging, and then it goes into a cave and it was
- 1:06:49seen several other times. So I am believes that these creatures are coming in
- 1:06:56out at like basically, the portals, whether it's time slips or whatever.
- 1:07:00You gotta like, these guys had amazing senses of smell. So let's say
- 1:07:03portals actually leak the scent of smell from the other side. So now this
- 1:07:08big predator smelling food, you know, it's a herd of moose on the
- 1:07:12other side of this. I can eat a moose. I don't know what
- 1:07:14a moose is, but it smells good. Walks through, get walks back
- 1:07:16home. You know, it's using its side to smell. We can't most
- 1:07:19time, we can't see the portals, and that's maybe where it's going because
- 1:07:25the tracks would disappear. That was seen several times, and then the terra
- 1:07:29sours. They could be doing the same thing. They'd pop it in and
- 1:07:30out. I could see if very like smaller size, Like we're talking like
- 1:07:34six seven foot terrasturs living and not being found. But we're talking like the
- 1:07:39ones in Texas, the ones out west where they're talking these guys are thirty
- 1:07:42foot wing spans. You know, that's a lot harder for me to believe
- 1:07:45that there's a living population of them fully here. Maybe pop it in and
- 1:07:49out. I don't know, what do you think? Yeah, I mean,
- 1:07:53okay, So they're putting out movies like Jurassic Park, Okay, and
- 1:07:58it seems like with a lot of the movies they're kind of given a soft
- 1:08:00disclosure as to what could be going on somewhere. Could there possibly be an
- 1:08:04island somewhere, let's just say an island, Okay, for all intents and
- 1:08:09purposes, Okay, there's an island where they are doing all sorts of experimentation
- 1:08:15on reviving dinosaurs some sort of you know, I mean t rexas and all
- 1:08:23that stuff. Is there a place where they're actually doing these experiments and some
- 1:08:26of these dinosaurs have escaped? So now there's a couple of years ago there's
- 1:08:32a story that China had discovered an island of dinosaurs and is keeping it under
- 1:08:36lock and key, that it was just existing out there. Now here's the
- 1:08:42problem. We talked about it off air, But we have some dinosaur DNA
- 1:08:46and stuff like. Pterosaurs are not dinosaurs. They are their own group.
- 1:08:50They are what was considered flying reptiles, but they're very very distantly related to
- 1:08:56any reptile to day. So the big problem is we have the MFI dinosaurs,
- 1:09:00uh like, well like I think believe we have a camelosaurus, which
- 1:09:05is a smaller sauropod. Uh So we have DNA fragments from these guys.
- 1:09:11We can clone them. The big problem is is the embryos. So with
- 1:09:15mammals and birds and reptiles, when we clone them, we need a close
- 1:09:20enough species to house the growing embryo. So the problem with dinosaurs is that
- 1:09:28these birds that are left are very very very distantly related to dinosaurs. They
- 1:09:32are dinosaurs in the sense that they their lineage is continued on from dinosaurs into
- 1:09:36modern day birds, but they've taken a step on becoming their own thing like
- 1:09:40any other animal when their group steps off. So we have big enough eggs.
- 1:09:45You know, we have ostras, we have kest suaries, we have
- 1:09:47you know, we have big egg laying birds. The real problem is is
- 1:09:51if the host genetic material will recognize and accept the new DNA the DNA of
- 1:09:59the new embryo, and not attack it and kill it. That's another big
- 1:10:01thing of why we need these creatures that have close enough DNA is basically,
- 1:10:05eggs are like a womb. You know, the egg itself is considered it's
- 1:10:09almost a separate living thing for a while. You know, its whole job
- 1:10:13is like to it's what are It just happens to not be in our body.
- 1:10:16So if it doesn't recognize that DNA is being close enough and humans have
- 1:10:20this problem with it sometimes in your pregnancy that the baby's DNA will get recognized
- 1:10:26as a parasite and the host with a mom that her body will actually start
- 1:10:30attacking the baby. Now that's un human. Now we're talking these things that
- 1:10:34are very ancient to modern day birds. So that's the big problem with that.
- 1:10:39Now tarosaurs are a whole another thing. We don't have them anymore.
- 1:10:42We don't have their groups, like they're gone. As far as that,
- 1:10:46Yeah, the commercial as a far as having eggs to put these guys in,
- 1:10:50cause we know they laid eggs. We have terosaur eggs and then some
- 1:10:55you know, some reptiles are not. For some dinosaurs, there's signs that
- 1:10:58they may have given birth in the even like the big marine reptiles gave live
- 1:11:00birth. So there's all this all this stuff with that. That's my big
- 1:11:05problem with the cloning aspect of dinosaurs is that Drastic Park made it look a
- 1:11:10little easier, and it is we can make a gene. So like the
- 1:11:14de extinction events that we're doing with Mammoth's trial a scenes and Dodo birds,
- 1:11:20those animals still have close, close related relatives that we can use their wounds
- 1:11:26and their eggs. So the mammoth is really close related to the You're the
- 1:11:31Asian elephant, so you can plug up even basically take an embryo clone of
- 1:11:35mammoth, make an embryo and plug it into an Asian elephant and they'll pop
- 1:11:41out of mammoth. So the mother is not affecting the DNA. The mother
- 1:11:45is just growing it. TRIALA scenes have a cousin I keep forgetting the name
- 1:11:50of. They have a video game about it, Bandicoots, Manicoots, Thank
- 1:11:56Crash Bandicoot. That's why I need jay uh and then do words. The
- 1:12:01giant crowned pigeons are related to them, and they lay a big eggs birds.
- 1:12:05So those are the three animals. Clossus, which is a company,
- 1:12:10is de extincting uh and so yeah, I guess that's my spiel about eggs
- 1:12:15and dinosaurs. So I think it's very hard to clone a dinosaur, not
- 1:12:19for the DNA aspect for finding an egg suitable enough to accept it. I
- 1:12:27think the trial the scene is out there as well as the hun percent believe
- 1:12:30tryal scenes are still around. There's some really good photo evidence of them.
- 1:12:32They're still getting really good pictures of these guys. Uh, Meloton, I
- 1:12:36don't think so. And you'll have to wait on that when I can't explain
- 1:12:41that one because that comes out in like two weeks. Oh, your special
- 1:12:45show that you're gonna be putting out, there's a megalon one coming out.
- 1:12:50Okay, it's very cool, August. Oh, I have to stay tuned
- 1:12:56for that one. This is awesome, man. This has been a fantastic
- 1:13:00conversation today. Seriously, you are so knowledgeable, mister e Oh my gosh,
- 1:13:05I didn't talk to me. Yeah. No. What I really love
- 1:13:09about it, you know, is on my my Bigfoot field research team,
- 1:13:12we we actually have a wildlife biologist. I mean we have a little bit
- 1:13:15of everything on my team and uh and it and it takes someone with that
- 1:13:20kind of knowledge that you have, okay, to really bring it all in,
- 1:13:25you know when we're out there doing our research, because yeah, we're
- 1:13:28out there experiencing stuff. We're trying to figure out like what's coming to reportals?
- 1:13:30But we need if it's portals, if it's you know, supernatural or
- 1:13:34is it flesh and bone? And what are those noises? And what is
- 1:13:38this plant? Is the vegetation right? Could it survive? Out here all
- 1:13:41that kind of stuff. A person with your knowledge that has like that biology
- 1:13:45background. Okay, it's just so important to bring a practical approach to what
- 1:13:49we're experiencing out there and uh and to just what we're trying to figure out
- 1:13:55in this world. So thank you so much for coming on today and sharing
- 1:14:00knowledge with me in my audience. Yeah, this is awesome. You know
- 1:14:03more about hyena isn't just about anybody I've ever met. I'm an info eater.
- 1:14:09Uh you are. I gotta thank our listener, Sean. I'm sure
- 1:14:15he'll listen to this, but it wasn't something I've crossed my mind until he
- 1:14:18sent me a little email saying, Hey, I seen a hyena and Lexington
- 1:14:20here's my story, and we did a whole episode on it. So yeah,
- 1:14:26thank you for having me. Uh oh yeah putting that up there.
- 1:14:30I just seen somebody. Oh gosh, no, cher Rose sounds? Is
- 1:14:34that how you say that? Oh? Yeah, we cheer Rose. Yes,
- 1:14:40chio sounds. That's Jane. Thank you so much, Shane. Yeah,
- 1:14:43your your links have been posted throughout the whole show for your YouTube channel,
- 1:14:47and uh, where where else can people find you other than your YouTube
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- 1:17:00tomorrow night. I'm gonna have a remote viewing show eight pm Eastern tomorrow night
- 1:17:05here at the Crypto Hundress. Then I'll be back this weekend on spaced Out
- 1:17:10Radio. All right, when when is your next event coming up? Mister
- 1:17:14e what's going on with you? Where can people see you? August let
- 1:17:17me pull it. I gotta click out or no. August fourth and fifth,
- 1:17:20we're at the Hockey Hills big Foot Festival. We're on a little special
- 1:17:25vendors area. And then our next speaking event is in Johnstown, Pennsylvania the
- 1:17:30August twenty sixth. We're speaking about Lumberland folklore. So yeah, we have
- 1:17:33a lot of fun. Have you guys coming out to a conference and see
- 1:17:36us, tell us you heard about us on here, come have a drink
- 1:17:40with us. We always have something afterwards set up till we go out and
- 1:17:44like we do like a hike or we do all hang out or whatever,
- 1:17:47and normally I get very drunk. It's kind of is that moonshine? Huh?
- 1:17:54Yeah. Everybody brings me a bunch and it's just fun. Oh yeah,
- 1:17:59that's awesome. I wish I could be there for that. I'm gonna
- 1:18:01have to meet up with you and Jay at some point and we'll cross pass
- 1:18:04at one of these conferences one day for sure and go camping. And if
- 1:18:09you're ever in Georgia. Holler at me and we'll we'll take you big Foot
- 1:18:13okay out here in my neck of the woods. All right, awesome,
- 1:18:16mister, you're the best. Everybody y'all have a wonderful day. Thank y'all
- 1:18:20so much for joining us. I will see you guys tomorrow night. Bye. Hi.