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MINI SCROLL: Tana Mongeau x Joey Graceffa x Rosanna Pansino x Trisha Paytas feud, Gabby Windey & Robby Hoffman married + Hannah Berner x Meghan Thee Stallion backlash · Mini Scroll

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  the digital space every Monday through Thursday.
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  I'm your host, Lauren Meissner, the founder of the youth digital
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  media brand Centennial World. Welcome back to Mini Scroll,
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  everyone. I'm trying a new mic placement
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  today so that I can hopefully avoid mouth sounds.
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  So if it sounds a little different, I worry that it's
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  but hopefully it will help with the mouse sounds.
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  All right, the first story that I have for you guys is I'm going
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  to breakdown the drama going on between Tana Mojo, Joey
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  Graceffa, Rosanna Pansino, and Trisha Paytas.
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  There has been a big feud going on right now between these
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  Youtubers and it seems to have resulted in the ending of
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  Rosanna Pansino's friendship with Tana and Trisha.
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  This feud started when Tana went on her podcast, Cancelled
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  recently and spoke about two things.
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  First, she talked about a negative experience that she had
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  on the set of a movie. Now she didn't say the name of
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  the production, but it was pretty clear that she was
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  talking about Escape the Night. Escape the Night is created by
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  Joey Graceffa and he crowdfunded to be able to produce another
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  version of this without YouTube Red.
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  Little side quest with one of these horror actors, OK.
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  And so I get dragged into a freezer, OK.
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  And then they're like, OK, your next scene is that you're going
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  to be chained to the ceiling. I'm just in this freezer,
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  chained to the ceiling with a man in a horror mask, right?
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  And he starts talking to me. And this man looks at me.
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  I swear to fuck through the mask.
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  I don't know what he looks like. And he looks at me and he says,
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  this is my dream, having you chained up.
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  Second, Tanner, Brooke and Paige also spoke about a YouTube that
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  they know who smoked her father's ashes.
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  Again, they didn't name names, but it was clear that this was
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  about Rosanna Pansino because has been open about the fact
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  that her father's wish when he passed away was for her to do
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  this. So then Tana went on Just Trish
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  and opened up more about her experience on Escape the Night.
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  They also talked more about Rosanna smoking her dad's ashes
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  and they laughed about it, with Trish saying that she knows that
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  it's true because Rosanna texted her before she did it.
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  He went on just Trish and he talked about what Tana said,
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  what like Tana's story of Escape the Night.
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  And when he addressed these claims, he kind of just
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  diminished them really. And this upset Tana.
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  So she talked about it again on the cancelled podcast.
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  Now this ended up leading Joey to apologize.
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  I guess when Trish's episode came out with Tana, this is when
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  Moore came to light. He apologized to Tana and Oscar
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  from just Trish. Read a statement from Joey on
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  the podcast. See why she can't handle things
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  offline. I apologize to her for how I
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  talked about it on the pod though and I was just being
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  playful. I think Tana has been hurt by a
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  lot of people and put me in the same boat of people who have
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  wronged her with people with bad intentions.
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  But I genuinely feel bad and was shocked by her reaction and I
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  instantly texted her and we also handled it on set too.
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  This probably all would have fizzled out but then this week
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  Rosanna released a podcast episode with her partner where
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  they talked about Tana's claims and also addressed Trisha and
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  Tana laughing about smoking her father's ashes.
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  In this episode, Rosanna and her partner definitely belittled
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  Tana's experience and questioned if they can believe her when
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  they claim that she lies about a lot of little things for shock
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  value or at least over exaggerate things for shock
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  value. So they were like, it's hard to
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  believe you about the bigger things when you constantly
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  exaggerate about the smaller things.
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  In two different video, she said it's mainstream when she's
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  expressing gratitude for the project and then when she's
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  shitting on it she calls it niche and little like she's
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  bigger. And.
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  Like better than it and an old friend hits her up to be in it
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  and she kind of is giving off the impression how she's
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  speaking about it, the tone, the manner is that like she's doing
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  the project out of charity sympathy.
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  She did the least amount of work on this project.
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  She had the shortest time on set and she complained the most.
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  Yeah, she was in a bad mood all day.
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  So just based on what I saw in person with my own eyes, it
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  already proves in my opinion that she is either exaggerating
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  or just lying. No one was locked in there.
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  That is a flat out lie. And then you're making people
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  think that your safety was at risk, that you were locked in
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  there when you weren't. These ladies have done a lot of
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  things that I wouldn't do and I have never judged them.
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  Now, Tricia has responded to Rosanna's podcast episode, and
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  it sounds like she and Moses have decided to cut ties with
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  Rosanna. Or at least they feel like
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  there's no coming back from this.
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  I'm sorry, the whole thing, honestly, like when Joey came
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  on, I really thought it was just a fun little thing.
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  I didn't know about Tana's experience.
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  Tana, come on. And it came, it came very heavy.
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  We actually caught a lot from that episode.
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  Her experience was a lot and I felt really sad for her.
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  And then now that her stuff has just become drama I.
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  Guess this is one of the consequences.
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  We could be seeing one of the consequences of a group of
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  friends. I don't know if they were like
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  in a group of friends, but you know, friends all having similar
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  ish podcasts where they talk about like Internet drama and
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  creators and what's happening online.
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  And they're all in that world themselves.
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  So of course they're going to talk about not only their own
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  experiences, but sometimes each other's experiences because
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  sometimes they will be the topic of those conversations and those
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  stories. And I think that this is
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  probably part of the consequence of that.
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  I think the way people have belittled Tana's experience is
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  just not OK. I understand she might be a
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  nightmare to work with. I think that's probably
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  something that people know by now.
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  Like we know this as the audience.
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  I assume people in the industry know that by now.
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  Maybe not a nightmare, but like, you know, she doesn't have the
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  most pristine reputation when it comes to her working experience
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  and like how she kind of conducts herself.
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  But I don't think that diminishes or takes away from
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  the experience that she is sharing.
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  And I think hearing the way that Rosanna, but particularly
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  clearly her partner talked about Tana was very icky.
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  Like I did not like this grown man talking about Tana that way.
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  All right, the next story that I have for you guys.
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  This is a happy story. Gabby Windy and Robbie Hoffman
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  are married, so I don't think I've ever covered Gabby and
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  Robbie on this podcast, but they are literally one of my favorite
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  couples to follow lately. Gabby Windy got her start on The
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  Bachelor franchises, but she has since made quite a name for
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  herself in the podcasting and talk space.
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  Because the public persona that she gives us is so weird and
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  funny. She was also in Traitors this
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  season and that exposed her to like a whole new audience.
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  And now her public profile is literally taking off.
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  Like she is the next big thing in podcasting and influencing.
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  She's just like so unique and kooky and funny and for the
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  girls, I love her. So after her Bachelor fame,
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  Gabby came out as queer when she started dating writer and
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  comedian Robbie Hoffman in 2023. And they revealed today in an
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  interview with Cosmo and also on their Instagram that in January,
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  they got married. And this all came about because
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  they had to evacuate LA during the fires and they ended up
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  evacuating to Las Vegas. They got upgraded to this like
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  beautiful penthouse. And Gabby was like, this is kind
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  of giving marriage vibes. Like should we get married?
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  And Robbie was like, I've been proposing to Gabby literally
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  every today, all the time since we started dating, but it was
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  the first time that she was like, maybe we should do this.
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  And then because Robbie was planning on like seriously
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  proposing to Gabby six months later, she had some things in
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  place for it. So she officially proposed to
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  Gabby with I think it was Wordle or like the New York Times
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  crossword. And then they got married in
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  Vegas. And it's just like so cute.
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  I mean, the pictures adorable. They walk down the aisle too hot
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  to go just like such a. I love a spontaneous moment like
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  that. Speaking of popular podcasters,
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  my next story is a less wholesome story.
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  Hannah Berner is facing backlash for the Vanity Fair Oscar Party
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  red carpet interviews that she did with Paige Dsorbo.
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  So Hannah Berner is a comedian and the Co host of the Giggly
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  Squad podcast and she is facing pretty intense backlash for her
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  red carpet interviews at the Vanity Fair Oscar Party.
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  For context, Giggly Squad is a pop culture slash just like
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  chatty best friend podcast Co hosted by Hannah Berner and
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  Paige Desorbo. Hannah and Paige got their start
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  on Bravo summer house, which is why I haven't really talked
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  about them. I do try and steer away from
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  like reality TV. I mean, I'm like obsessed with
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  Bravo, as you guys know, and reality TV is like ironic
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  because I've literally published like full interviews with Bravo
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  stars on this podcast before. But I know that it's not really
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  like the crux of what you guys care about, but I care about it
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  deeply. But I also don't necessarily
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  want to like ruin it for myself, which is partly why I like to
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  keep it off of the podcast as well.
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  But this is just all of these worlds combining for me.
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  So Paige and Hannah, like I said, got their start on Bravo's
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  Summer House. Hannah was eventually not asked
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  back to the show after she had a really bad season, and she
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  fought a lot with the show's kind of principal guy at the
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  time, Kyle Cook. Paige has remained on Summer
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  House. So Paige and Hannah's podcast,
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  Giggly Squad has literally skyrocketed in the past,
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  probably like 18 months. And Hannah even landed her own
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  Netflix comedy special last year, partly because because of
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  this new era of her career. So she started posting on TikTok
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  a lot like her comedy stuff after she got fired from Bravo.
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  And that really took off. And then Giggly Squad really
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  took off. And, you know, now she has this
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  Netflix special. And like, they are just in their
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  like, true celebrity era. Like they are really moving
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  beyond the Bravo universe, which is honestly hard.
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  We haven't seen a lot of Bravo celebs be able to do that well.
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  So of course, part of this is they got this opportunity to
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  host red carpet interviews for the Vanity Fair Oscars party and
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  that opportunity didn't go well. So I do want to preface by
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  saying I am obviously, like I said, a huge Bravo fan, but I'm
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  actually not a giggler. I've never listened to Giggly
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  Squad, but I would say I have loved watching them from afar.
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  Kind of like succeed in this new era of their careers.
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  Especially Hannah getting this like second wind.
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  However, I fear this may be crumbling.
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  So there are three moments where Hannah was micro or honestly
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  arguably macro aggressive to celebrities on the red carpet.
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  First, Hannah told Megan Thee Stallion that her music makes
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  her want to fight. This is the biggest one that's
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  been going around. When Megan tried to steer the
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  conversation in a different direction, Hannah kept going and
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  talking over Megan. To be honest, she talked over
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  everyone and apparently this is a problem on Giggly Squad.
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  Apparently she does this a lot on Giggly Squad.
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  We're going to cry. Don't cry.
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  We're lying, No? You're laughter.
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  No, I know. No.
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  Your music has literally. Like maybe like.
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  When I want to fight someone, I usually.
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  Do you want to throw that fighting shit out the window and
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  you want to get killed and be a bad man when people are talking?
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  Shit, I go. Turn on megas.
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  I look beautiful. I look so great.
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  Wait, no. You look so good when you're.
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  But I know because I watch your documentary.
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  You've been through so many dark things.
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  So a couple things here. Obviously, Megan is a black
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  woman, so why does her music, in your mind make you think that
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  you want to fight? Like, why is that the
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  association that you have? Because that is not what Megan's
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  music is about. Her music is about
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  self-confidence. It's about her mental health.
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  It's about empowerment. Second, Megan is also the victim
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  of a violent assault, so that comment is even more
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  inappropriate now. The next two moments I didn't
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  catch myself. But according to people all over
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  the Internet, she, like Hannah, also asked Coco Jones if she can
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  dunk a basketball. Coco is a black woman and a
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  singer-songwriter, actress, nothing to do with basketball.
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  And she asked Bowen Yang and Matt Roger, who are both gay
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  men, if they have hooked up. The interviews are honestly
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  really hard to watch. And they show such a lack of
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  preparation and they also show such a lack of understanding of
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  other people's experiences. I don't want to speak over like
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  any women of color in this conversation or insert my
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  opinion where it's not wanted. But I do want to touch on the
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  gigglers defending Hannah. So a lot of the gigglers
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  defending Hannah are saying she obviously didn't mean these
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  comments and prejudice or like in a derogatory way.
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  And she was clearly nervous and we need to let people mess up
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  and that kind of stuff, right? All the same, like rhetoric that
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  we always hear. And people will mess up,
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  absolutely. But when it's at the expense of
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  others, then it's also OK for those people who have been hurt
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  to express that and to call it out.
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  And when it comes to the argument that Hannah didn't mean
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  her comments like that, I think that's what makes this
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  conversation even more valuable because that is a huge part of
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  the problem when it comes to microaggressions.
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  A lot of people might not realize that they are making
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  microaggressions because certain stereotypes or beliefs or tropes
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  are just so subconsciously ingrained in us from society.
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  And it takes work. And it takes putting your ego
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  aside to remove that and to question like, why did I say
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  that or why am I thinking like that?
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  Or why am I making that association?
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  And when you're at a place where you're getting an opportunity
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  like this, the level of professionalism and the level of
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  self reflection and understanding and work that I
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  think you need to do, like it just needs to be better.
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  That's not to say that we're not always working on ourselves.
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  That's not to say that it's ever going to be done.
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  And that's not to say that people can't mess up, but this
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  many huge mess ups all at once. There is a problem here.
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  And of course there's also now a conversation like podcast hosts
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  and influencers shouldn't be doing red carpet stuff.
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  I kind of I agree with that and I don't agree with that.
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  I agree with that on one hand, I mean for case in point, but I
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  also think like Teffy, I think Drew like Drew Foil, like I
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  think they are great examples of women that have parlayed that
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  type of career into something bigger.
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  And I think they're red carpet interviews and stuff are
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  amazing. I think we do have some good
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  examples of that, but I think we're a lot of these hosts go
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  wrong or influencers go wrong is like it's not about you.
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  You know, like I think a lot of people go into this industry
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  because they want to be famous themselves.
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  And unfortunately, if you are being asked to interview people
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  on a red carpet, that's about them, that's about the
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  celebrity. You're not the one being
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  interviewed. You know, this is you giving
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  them a platform, you are facilitating an opportunity for
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  them. You're not trying to have your
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  own moment. And that I think is where Hannah
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  went wrong. I kind of think it Paige went
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  wrong there too. I think she was definitely like
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  more graceful, more professional than Hannah, but I think as a
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  duo, this is where they went wrong.
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  It's not your opportunity to show the audience how quirky and
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  funny you are. Like I said, I've never listened
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  to Giggly Squad. I've seen a lot of people be
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  like, I'm not shocked, but I was shocked because it was just so
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  blatant. I think Hannah is definitely
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  going to need to make some type of statement.
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  I hope this does help her reflect on her biases.
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  I fear it might not. There are also a lot of people
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  who are talking about different instances on giggly squad now
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  that I guess I don't know if they've been removed or if it's
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  just been a long time ago where the girls have said things that
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  were along similar lines or just things that they should have
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  probably addressed or apologize and haven't.
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  But I don't think that Hannah and Paige, unless they do some
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  damage control, are going to be asked back for an opportunity
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  like this soon. All right, guys, Well, that's it
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