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I don't even know if I have assigned an actual score yet
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because first watch through was kind of not focused, but mostly
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to get the gist of what was what.
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This franchise starts out as a second time.
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I appreciated a couple things more.
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So that's. Quite interesting because OK, my
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I'm going to just say what my first viewing rating was because
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it's not that anymore Like it, it's not what I gave it
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originally, but this will give you an idea of my headspace.
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I came away saying this was a 10 out of 10.
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I loved this movie. I could not believe how much I
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loved this movie. I was genuinely shocked.
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I've never seen it before and I think I always thought it was a
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different movie. And I was just so pleasantly
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surprised by what I actually got out of it.
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Then I watched it a second time and it I've, you know, I've I've
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got a more reasonable score now, but.
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Worse than James Bond Skyfall? But I am going to say that going
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into it, I maybe my expectations were low, but I had never seen
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this movie and I I was so wonderfully surprised.
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I before watching it, I couldn't have told you what the main
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conflict is, and having watched it now, I'm like, what happens
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in the next ones? I have a general vague idea of
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that, but man, it is really all we're going to do.
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OK, OK, we'll see. On to the second one after we
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review. Yeah, it's not a perfect movie,
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but I so I would say maybe it's probably not good for children.
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Like I thought about showing it to my kids, but they still play
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with toys and so I don't know if this would be very good for
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kids, but I do think it's more of a horror comedy than a horror
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movie. Yeah, yeah, I.
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I think anyone who's done with toys could have a lot of fun
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with this movie, but if you're a child and you still play with
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toys, this movie might mess with you.
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The. Bad Toy Story.
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For real. Hello and welcome to Potato Chip
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Pictures, the movie franchise review podcast.
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My name is Justin. And I'm B Sammy Davis.
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Today we are looking at the first movie in the Chucky
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franchise, otherwise known as 1988's Child's Play.
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So it was directed by Tom Holland.
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No association with Spider Man. It's the same spelling in
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everything. Written by himself and Don
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Mancini and John Lafia produced David Kerscher budget of 13
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million. And since we've both seen the
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return numbers, I would say I'm I'm surprised.
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I'd be pleasantly surprised with 44.2 million in in box office
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return from third tab. Absolutely.
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I don't know comparably with our other movies, what that is at.
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Yeah, I mean, that's triple the budget.
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And I think with horror movies, those typically get smaller
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returns. It's, I mean, we haven't looked
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at a lot of horror movies we've watched and a thriller franchise
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with A Quiet Place. But this is our first real
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horror. And I think if we were to look
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at Friday the 13th, we would probably see similar numbers.
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But I don't know. I I genuinely have no points of
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comparison except that it profited.
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You know, I'd say our review podcast prioritizes content over
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returns, so I'm fine with not really knowing the comparison.
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Exactly. It's just a metric we throw out
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there. If I'm going to put most of
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where the money went to, I would definitely say the child size
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animatronic of the Chucky doll because that might be one of the
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shining stars of this film. 2nd place would be maybe the child
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actor because those are the the parts there's parts where it's
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yes, he's a child actor and then other parts where it's like,
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were they scaring this child? Because yeah, you did a good
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job. I.
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Know I know exactly the scene you're talking about and there
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is a moment where I'm like maybe this got a little too real for
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this kid like. Or fantastic acting man.
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And then of course, we've got Chris Sarandon as Prince
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Humperdinck. I mean, as a I've already
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forgotten. Mike Norris.
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Detective Mike Norris. Yeah, I didn't remember his name
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either. She does yell at her a lot, so
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it's like, oh, I. Know you would think that either
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of us would remember, but I just kept looking at his face and
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thinking, hey that's Prince Humperdinck I.
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Think I'd completely skipped that.
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I was trying to. I did look at his IMDb to be
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like, what is he famous for? But not in his famous for things
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is The Princess Bride. So like, yeah, well, that's the
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one I know him from. Now the one who I had a huge
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uptick in appreciation, just like this year, is Brad Dorif,
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the voice actor for Chucky. He also plays Charles Lee Ray.
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I think the the killer at the beginning.
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He's worm tongue in Two towers. But then the thing that really
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blew my mind, I started watching Star Trek Voyager with my older
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brother. This is my first time watching
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it and there are two episodes where Brad Dourif plays this
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incredible character and he he's only in these two episodes, but
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they are so good. And so I, I like, I had just had
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this fantastic viewing experience from Star Trek and
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then I watched this and I was like, man, I like this guy has
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acting chops that I'm only now starting to appreciate.
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I'll have to look up and see because while he looks familiar
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and then worm tongue is a good a good way to visualize it, I
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don't know that I know any of his other things.
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Yeah, I'm trying to look up to see other ones that because like
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his biggest franchise is Chucky, but he does do characters in a
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lot of movies. He was in One Flew Over the
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Cuckoo's Nest from 1975, which I have not seen, so I couldn't
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tell you who he was in that, but he was the the town doctor in
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Deadwood and oh man. So he's usually playing like a
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slimy or evil character. But then there's Deadwood, where
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he is this devoted and passionate Dr. in the Old West
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and oh, he tugs at your heartstrings all the time.
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He's so good. He.
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Reminds me of I don't remember the guy's name like the Roxbury
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guy. That's why I was like, I don't
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know if I know this man, but Worm Tongue, yes.
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I can't remember the other guy's name.
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Yeah, so those are the three big ones that I know him from or 4
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big. Yeah, three big ones.
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Star Trek, Lord of the Rings and Deadwood.
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That's that's how I remember him.
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Well, I don't have much to say about I mean never having seen
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it think culturally growing up I had heard of Chucky, but I think
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I only have watched it now the only intervening moment that he
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came back into view. I don't think he is in the Dead
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by Daylight video game, but the, the feeling of him during the
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movie felt like the way that the characters move, the villains
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move in that game. The killers, I guess you would
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tell him, 'cause it's like, oh, he, he just seems to know where
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everybody is. He's chasing, oh shoot our main
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child actor. Yeah.
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Is it Alex? Is it or am I thinking of the
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actor? It's Andy.
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Andy the actor is. Alex Vincent and she's always
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yelling for Andy. He's managed to just know where
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Andy is going. Like it doesn't.
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Either he's following him very well or he just magically kind
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of knows where Andy's going to be going.
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So forgive me, I'm I'm watching a trailer right now because I'm
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pretty sure that every audience is new that Chucky was the doll
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and that the doll was the killer.
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Like, I don't think there was any surprise for audiences
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coming in to the movie. There certainly was none for us
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here in the future. Like, we know absolutely that
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not only is Chucky alive, but he's going to be alive for
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several more movies. From the end of this movie,
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yeah, I'm like, yeah. But I genuinely really loved how
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they introduced the character and and how long it took.
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On my second viewing I realized it's fully halfway through the
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movie when he we the audience get to see him come alive.
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Like everything before that is just a hint, like maybe
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something out of the corner of a character's eye and.
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I think that well, I guess when is the first time?
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Is that when the mom finds out or?
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Yeah, I think, I think that's about the 45 minute is around
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the time you are correct, he does move in the bed to like
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turn his head. But the first time we get to
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hear Brad Dorriff's voice again. I think I realized about the
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same thing. Not maybe like he was missing,
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but it felt like, OK, we're going to take on the adult
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perspective because really, she reports stuff to police and the
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kid is convinced and saying my doll is alive, but none of the
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adults believe it because it really wouldn't be alive really,
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unless you're in a horror movie. Exactly.
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Like I'm sitting here thinking about my own kids and you know,
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the first time my child said that their toy did something,
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I'll admit I got a little chill down my spine and it was because
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of this franchise. But in 1988, that's ludicrous.
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Like, what are we talking about here?
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Like a Raggedy Ann that's possessed by a demon?
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Come on, let's be real here. I I really appreciate how well
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they do the animatronics because I think it still works pretty
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well. Or puppeteering what?
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However they made it happen, they did a good job.
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I don't it seems like it would have maybe been a bit
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fantastical in that time period to be like, oh, this doll
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actually would move around on its own.
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I don't know of any toys that would have been able to
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replicate that, but yeah. I can't, I mean, late 80s, there
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might have been a few dolls here and there, but really the big
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trend that this movie hit on was the Cabbage Patch dolls because
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those were still popular. I I don't know when Cabbage
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Patch came out, but this movie is certainly kind of responsible
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for them no longer being as popular as they used to be.
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They looked so innocent and yeah, I can see that being
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responsible for it. But you know it, it was a
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cultural moment. And yet, while it looks
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incredible today, I don't know if it would have been very scary
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then either. Like I don't it's so interesting
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because yes, it is a killer doll.
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It's got the spirit of a serial killer, but it's also a plastic
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doll. How how scary is that?
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It's it's a few ounces in weight, maybe pounds because of
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the the motors and the battery pack, but it's not, it's not
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going to overpower a man and yet it is able to tackle people.
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Yeah, I think that that's probably the main I guess you
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would call a flaw of the the monster in this one is when they
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do need to be able to hold the door closed against it.
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Yeah, it it still is just a doll.
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It's not going to break down the door, but if it can slip through
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the door, it can hide in the vents it so there's bits of
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scariness that way instead of like the Alien franchise monster
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that can take you apart. Yeah.
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Well, I guess let's get into this thing.
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We've we've kind of begin set our our pre thoughts about it.
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So I guess First things first, this movie starts with a heist
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gone wrong. And it's important to note that
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it at least it looks like a heist gone wrong because why
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would you have a delivery driver for a strangling?
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But maybe he does. He is the Lakeshore Strangler.
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The point is we open on Detective Mike Norris chasing
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Charles Lee Ray through the streets and there's a a gunfight
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going on. And it's it's a good little cop
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movie as an opener, you know? Yeah, I.
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I didn't know what to expect. He's a strangler.
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He's run from the cops. I guess the getaway driver is
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the one that shows up later. Well, he's just sitting at the
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meeting spot, and it's while Charles is trying to cross the
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street that he gets shot in the leg.
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And that causes the driver to to drive off.
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And Charles is like, I'm going to kill you.
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I'm going to kill you. I forget the character's name,
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Eddie. Yeah, I think it's Eddie or
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something like that, yeah. So he's like Eddie, I'm going to
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get you his. Accomplice to strangling, you
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know. Exactly.
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That's why like it's so confusing that there's an
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accomplice because like once we get his name, they're like, he's
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the Lakeshore Strangler. Like what?
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Then why? Why was that other guy even
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there? Like that's so weird.
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Yeah. He doesn't want to do the
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strangling. Eddie just wants to drive them
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around. They're buds.
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You. Know you got to take interest in
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your friend's pursuits, I guess, yeah.
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Well, a car chases Eddie, so that's that's one important
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thing to note that I missed the first time.
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He he does get caught by the cops, but that's why we get him
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in the news. Yeah, he escapes again back to
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the safe house. But first we got to have some
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ritual chanting because Charles gets shot enough that he's going
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to die. Who grabs the the doll I don't
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like? If there wasn't that life child
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sized doll would it have worked on like a car or something?
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Yeah, what if he had grabbed like AGI Joe?
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It does seem a little convenient that he he's a strangler, but he
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happens to know this ritual chant to transfer his soul into
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an inanimate object like it was. That's kind of like, OK, here's
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the assumption. We're going to go with it and go
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like improv truth or something. They really, they don't need you
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to believe it or even care. They are just giving you the
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why. You know, because we got.
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Yeah, like people are watching the trailer saying I can't wait
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to figure out how they got a doll to be alive.
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And here is the explanation. But I was watching it with
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subtitles, and I think one of my favorite lines is as Charles
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realizes that he's dying from a second gunshot wound to the
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chest and he's, you know, yelling out his curses.
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He kind of takes a couple of breaths and he's like, I got to
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find somebody. I just love the delivery.
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I love the oh man, Like, maybe I'm just enamored by Brad Dorf,
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but I genuinely loved that, that whole sequence and especially
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that moment. I think I enjoyed the giant
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explosion that the original culminates in because.
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That was a few million, no? Yeah, we'll make it explode.
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Have a stunt guy fly backwards. Looked really cool.
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Lightning effects may be a little bit crazy up in the sky,
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but I think coming down through this, the sunroof or skylight,
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it looks OK. Looks good.
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It looks like a bomb went off in that story.
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I don't know if a lightning bolt would do that this.
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Is a magic light bulb or a lightning bolt?
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We'll go with that because it's it's like they left the gas oven
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on or something because it blows out everything but doesn't kill
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Mike so that we can cut to a kid and watching a commercial for
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this giant doll. I, I don't know, maybe, maybe
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kids are just different from me, but I remember like even before.
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So this movie came out when I was 4.
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Obviously no one in my family was going to let me watch this
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movie when I was a four year old, but I definitely saw
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commercials for it, and I was. I was like, that's such a scary
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looking doll, but I also thought that about all the life-size
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dolls. I was like, they're so scary
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looking. Yeah, yeah.
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But this kid wants it. He's excited for it.
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I don't think I ever got a doll or toy that big because it's
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basically the size of him. He's just dressed just like
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Chucky, which like I I can understand that.
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I think we got some bluey pyjamas for my kids.
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I was going to say I I think I do remember toys that doubled as
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an outfit for your kids. Like you buy the toy and you can
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take the clothes off the toy and now you've got a whole new
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outfit for your child. Not.
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Being interesting well, I mean intro done, I don't know do we
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get. I have to say, since we're
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talking about the kid, the since the kid showed up, I have to say
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the most terrifying part of the beginning of the movie was
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watching this kid make breakfast for his mother.
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And it's like ends up being like his birthday, but it's the usual
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standard fare of you can't really tell if it's morning,
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morning time, but because it's so bright.
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Yeah. But he's making breakfast for
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his mom and he gets it to her and it is burnt and made with
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love. I guess at no point do I feel
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like there's any commentary on the mother son relationship or
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him lacking for anything. So it's not like that.
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He just wanted to make your breakfast because he loves me.
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And sure, he gets disappointed by some of his toys, but like,
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what kid doesn't like, unless they're great communicators and
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say, well, I want this one thing.
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It's it's a, it's a toss up. I, I got to be honest, I don't
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know why 2 pieces of clothing were in such a giant box.
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That's that's kind of mean on the mom's part.
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But like I immediately thought of those parents who buy an
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empty box for like a game console so a kid will open it up
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and discover clothes and it's I'm like, I hate that.
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I genuinely hate that. Why would you make a present
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into a punishment like that sucks.
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Yeah, that's understandable. Obviously the mother wasn't
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doing that here. She was genuinely excited.
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The director was. Yes.
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The director, maybe she got him in.
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Maybe she did buy it. No, she didn't like.
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Well, she probably wouldn't have put it in a giant box, but the I
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feel like it's a, it's a average dialogue of of mom to son being
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like, oh, OK, so this is the this is the motivation to
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actually get the doll. It's not exactly, it's not
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anything more than plot going forward.
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So she goes to her day job. I don't know where the kid goes.
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Hopefully to school. Oh no.
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Six years old to school. Yeah, yeah, I forgot about the
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scene. She takes him to school and she
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asks if he's OK or something like that.
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And then she goes to her job. OK.
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It's like I could for a minute. I did not remember where he
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went. She gets a chance to buy the
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doll for 30 bucks behind the store.
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Her friend and her have some good banter.
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Down with the corporations. Yeah, man.
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Yeah, man. Her.
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Friend didn't seem that bad or helps her out because she has
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the work shift her. Boss seemed pretty awful.
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It's too bad that guy didn't get to have a run in with Chucky.
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Jerk. I, I, you know, all of this is
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leading up to the big thing. And I will admit this is on my
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second viewing. This is where I was like, OK,
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this is kind of slow. This is a little bit boring.
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I get it. We need this stuff to get into
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the movie. But at the same time, like, I
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want Chucky, like I want him in this movie.
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I want him doing stuff in this movie.
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And we've got to wait about 10 or 20 minutes to get there.
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I feel like bird's eye view generally, he was in it enough
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throughout the whole thing in like the end he's there there
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and it's so tangible. But I the beginning on the 1st
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viewing was slow. I don't know my second viewing,
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but yeah, first viewing was the same, pretty slow.
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It kind of reminded me the of the pacing of Paranormal
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Activity in that it's always escalating.
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Like it's very slow to begin with, and when things start to
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happen, you start to pay attention, but then things just
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keep starting to happen and it just gets bigger and bigger
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until you get the final big finale.
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But the main difference here is in Paranormal Activity, the big
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finale is the end. Where is this one?
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We end. And then we get a moment to
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catch our breath and say everything's OK, it's all good.
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Yeah, But, you know, getting the doll into the house is critical.
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It's a little bit on the slow side.
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We get to meet a few people, but at least we get there and and
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the mom gets to, you know, give the present to Andy.
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So that's. Good.
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The best present ever. Yeah, it's not like she gave it
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to the friend and the friend gave it to the kid.
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Like she got to go home before going back to work and so good
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for that. Good for that manager.
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You're letting me be a human. Yeah, letting you have two hours
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with your child. What's a jewelry store doing
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open until like 10:00 at night? Yeah, I, I will say after having
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lived through the COVID reset and stuff kind of closing down
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earlier than I expected to, stuff might have been open that
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late in the 80s, who knows? Yeah, that also makes sense
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because, you know, back then people were, well, not most, but
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many people were working a genuine 9 to 5 where lunch was
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included. And so you would work from 9:00
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AM to 5:00 PM. But after that, you would need
27:15
to have time to do living things.
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And that usually meant going to the mall or the grocery store.
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And so those things would have to be open later to accommodate
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for the people working during the day.
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And then you have other people who work a little later and they
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need time to go shopping. So I guess I can see it.
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I've I've been totally reset myself by COVID.
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Yeah. Oh, but Toy gets home.
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Friend has to watch the kid because boss made her stay for a
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shift. Friend gets scared because she
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sends him to bed and Chucky starts kind of showing up and
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moving until they look. So kind of Toy Story movement.
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I mean, I love this night. I'm just going to throw that out
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there now. I don't want us to gloss over
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it. This whole evening sold me on
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the movie. What about?
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Well, specifically, I love every little thing that that leads up
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to it. So at first they're they're
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playing and then we see Chucky's return to watch television when
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there's that news or that breaking news that interrupts
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the the station. And then, you know, Chucky
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whispers to the kid, but obviously we don't hear
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anything. We just see Andy coming close
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and listening to a whisper and it's like, oh, that's kind of
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freaky. And then of course, famously,
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the TV gets turned on and Chucky's sitting in front of
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there watching while Andy's brushing his teeth and that
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freaks out the lady and oh man, like that was such a good
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choice. It's a good setup.
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And so now we can get to the the real first kill.
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But I just had to say like, Oh, I, I love these little touches
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that were like, we're getting spooky.
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Yeah, I think pulling me back out of it is the fact that she
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tucks Andy in with his shoes on. I know please take his shoes
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off, but but to the the credit of they need to be on so that
29:39
the police has a clue to go on like for later once the murder
29:45
happens. Yeah yeah, the kid reporting
29:48
that Chucky is talking to him. It's not like out of place, but
29:55
it is like, well, if you know that he's the bad guy, then
29:59
like, well, the kids trying to tell you.
30:00
I don't know what to say, but he's trying to tell you.
30:04
She tucks him in because he's brushed his teeth had the
30:07
already the one scare. And I think we see his room door
30:12
open and you never see Chucky. You just kind of hear the Peter
30:18
patter of him flying across the the darkness of the hallway
30:23
because she's watching TV in the pitch black.
30:26
I I'll watch it with like a lamp or two on, but not in the pitch
30:30
black. I think she's watching TV and
30:32
reading, so I think she does have a light on.
30:35
But I'm sitting here thinking like, why would you read with
30:37
the TV on? I cannot read with the TV on.
30:42
Like whether it's the flashing lights or the images or the
30:46
sound, the TV takes me out of everything.
30:51
Yeah, but we do. We do get to see Chucky briefly.
30:56
Fly through. Yeah, he runs through the hall
30:59
and we see the back half of him crossing an entryway and that's
31:06
like our first hint that he can also run.
31:09
But it's shot in such a way that it it could be Andy.
31:14
Like maybe this whole thing is a big misdirect and Andy is the
31:19
the psycho killer. My, that's what the police think
31:24
and they're concerned. It's like, well, pushed your
31:27
best friend out the window who's taking care of him and doesn't
31:31
seem to feel anything about it. Like that's pretty psychotic
31:36
behaviour, I would say. She what does she do?
31:41
She puts him in bed. She hears stuff in the kitchen.
31:46
Oh, because, like, flower falls over.
31:48
So she goes to clean that up. But the mom rings home and they
31:54
talk and it's kind of like a one of those, what do you call it
32:00
tropes of oh, at least they got to say goodbye.
32:02
Well, no, she calls. Thanks for taking care of my
32:05
kid. Immediately die after.
32:10
The the everything's fine call. Yeah, everything's fine.
32:15
You get hit by a hammer in the head and that pushes you out the
32:19
window. Yeah, I agree there.
32:24
Maybe I was going to say maybe she slipped on the flower that
32:28
was spilled, but it doesn't look like there are slip marks when
32:33
the cops are there and, you know, very shortly.
32:37
But yeah, it's, I love everything leading up to it.
32:41
I just kind of wish that it wasn't a five step backup to the
32:48
window to fall out. Like how bad could that hammer
32:53
have hit this lady in the head? I'm going to not jump ahead, but
32:57
context ahead. Because he gets the doll and
33:02
this is the Strangler who wants to kill the Cup and Eddie, but
33:09
he kills this lady for why? Because she's there, Yeah.
33:15
Man, because she wouldn't want to watch the news.
33:19
Oh, I guess, yeah. That's random.
33:24
I know it's kind of dumb and also the strangler only attempts
33:29
to strangle 2 people in this whole movie and.
33:33
Oh yeah. That's not his preferred means
33:36
of killing people. I guess so where I was going
33:40
with that is that he doesn't kill the kid like until later on
33:48
when he needs the kid, like, right.
33:50
So right now he doesn't know that he needs to possess Andy by
33:58
the end of all things. So his goal is to get out of the
34:02
house and kill the cop and the other guy.
34:05
That's what I'm, that's what I'm thinking is the motivation.
34:09
But like, I guess the only thing is this murder doesn't quite do
34:15
too much other than I guess confirm that he's willing to
34:20
murder anybody that gets in his way.
34:23
Not necessarily for. Yeah.
34:27
That's a good point. He's it's not serving his
34:31
purpose and if anything, it's drawing attention to him.
34:35
Yeah, because if he wanted to, he could have left that evening.
34:41
Yep, yeah, he keeps going back like, why do you?
34:45
Yeah. So a little bit of a a stumble
34:48
in terms of what is the need for this to happen.
34:53
Like here he already was alive in the box as a as a toy.
34:58
Why did he get picked up and shipped out?
35:02
Like so a little bit of that brings down the coherentness of
35:08
my score I would say. I'm also, if we're going to
35:11
point out little nitpicky things, I'm also going to point
35:14
out the fact that he was in pristine condition when he had
35:18
been struck by lightning after having his forehead caved in
35:22
with a bloody thumb. Like this doll looks real, real
35:27
good for what it's already been through.
35:30
Because it doesn't go back to the factory.
35:32
It doesn't do anything like that.
35:34
It is picked up from the wreckage of the store by the
35:37
homeless guy. So maybe that guy cleaned it up,
35:41
I don't know. But nonetheless, here he is.
35:46
And I maybe, maybe this is just me, but I always kind of thought
35:50
that maybe he came back to life or realized that he had control
35:56
over this body around the time that he's with Andy.
36:01
But there's nothing in the movie to suggest that That is simply
36:04
me reading into it. So you raise valid points that I
36:10
can't contend with. Well, I mean, I didn't my first
36:15
rating would not have been a 10. So we're going to, we're going
36:18
to probably eventually meet in the middle because.
36:20
I was going to say, you might be bringing me down every every
36:23
second. Before we get the cops in there,
36:33
I don't know much else happens. She gets thrown out the window
36:36
and the I think we're home on the bus to Mom.
36:39
Yeah, so her mom is there quickly capture there.
36:45
Why does her mom or why does his mom say goodbye to the people on
36:49
the bus? Holy crap.
36:51
She doesn't say goodbye to the driver.
36:52
Maybe she does as she's leaving, but as the bus is leaving she
36:56
then smiles and waves at everybody on it like hi bye.
37:01
Like what is this small town Chicago crap?
37:08
Parts of Chicago that the mic says you don't go to at night,
37:11
but the other parts where you live, everybody knows your name.
37:16
Yeah, all right. Yeah.
37:20
So she buzz passes, she sees the cops, she goes running in.
37:24
Absolutely no one stops her. I live here, all right?
37:30
Head on in. Yeah.
37:32
The the secondary detective, I don't remember his name.
37:37
He's only in the movie like 3 times.
37:40
Jack maybe he's he's the first one to challenge her and it's
37:47
right outside the apartment door.
37:49
She crosses the tape, she crosses a cop getting into his
37:52
car, she crosses multiple cops. No one challenges her, she just
37:59
does her thing. Yeah.
38:04
I'm going to admit I don't like Detective Norris.
38:11
I as soon as he's reintroduced in the movie, I just don't like
38:16
him. I'm sitting here thinking, why
38:18
is a cop speaking to a minor without their parents there?
38:22
Or was that not yet a law? Maybe?
38:27
I don't know. Yeah, I think the the feel of
38:32
him before he knows that Chucky's alive is kind of just
38:39
rude and blunt, I guess you could say.
38:44
Just not. I don't know what I would have
38:50
expected different. So I can't really say, oh, he
38:52
should be, you know, listening to the people that are still
38:56
alive in this house like, well, he seems like maybe.
39:01
I don't know if he got injured in that first confrontation or
39:06
not, but. I don't think he was.
39:09
He's just I got thrown around by the lightning bolt.
39:12
But yeah, I could agree. Don't love him even by the end
39:18
of the movie. Yeah, the most jarring part for
39:22
me was like, I'm sitting here thinking, wow, what a jerk of a
39:26
detective. But OK, if that's his character,
39:28
then fine. We've got a jerk cop who
39:31
eventually has to be convinced that Chucky's alive.
39:35
But then in the same scene, he also decides to be flirting with
39:39
the mom. I'm like, well, now you're all
39:42
so gross. Like what is this?
39:46
It is 1988 man, I guess. Yeah.
39:50
So those were my two big things that I didn't particularly enjoy
39:56
from the. Kai, I enjoy that the flower is
40:00
on Chucky's feet, but only Andy sees that.
40:04
Yep, and no one even wants to look at it.
40:07
Yep, he tries to tell the cop and the cops like yeah, his mom.
40:12
Doesn't even look at it. Yeah, whatever.
40:18
It's I believe you kids. Yep, it's good and creepy after
40:22
that. Like trying to remember if this
40:25
is when the mom is angry at Eddie or not At Eddie, at Andy
40:29
for making things up. And he's just like once he's he
40:34
says like 3 different times I took he's alive and she's like,
40:38
would you stop it? And like, understandable
40:41
actually, don't think toys don't come to life then it would be a
40:47
little much to try and go along with your kids saying that.
40:52
Exactly. A little harsh but
40:55
understandable. Kind of a human moment, all
41:00
things considered. But so I I also enjoyed that.
41:03
But what I'm discovering about myself is that I enjoy Andy and
41:08
Chucky the most. And it's just about every scene
41:12
with Andy and Chucky that I'm like, this is awesome because we
41:18
are going to, well, we've got a couple of more scenes with Andy
41:22
and Chucky that are going to be fun, but then there's going to
41:24
be a huge portion of the movie where there's no more Andy or
41:29
Chucky. And I kind of hate that.
41:34
I mean, I know that portion that you're talking about.
41:36
And it's, yeah, I agree that it kind of suffers, but it does
41:43
give the adults something to do. But because otherwise, really,
41:49
this is Andy trying to get rid of this doll.
41:55
And he he does a good job at the third act, but we'll go through
41:59
the second one first. Yeah, yeah, man, we got to get
42:03
to the next excellent Chucky scene.
42:07
Chucky doesn't. He decides not to kill the kids
42:11
mom which is which is helpful. She let him watch the news, I
42:17
guess. I don't know.
42:19
But the next day she what? Does she drop him off for school
42:23
again? Yeah, takes him to school and he
42:27
bounces takes and for some reason she lets him take his
42:30
brand new toy that I'm sure a bunch of other 6th graders would
42:35
want It's. Only $30, man, It's not 100.
42:37
That's true. You know, probably with
42:41
inflation maybe. OK, now I'm going to pull up an
42:46
inflation. Calculator.
42:47
Calculator dollar. I mean, that's those American
42:51
Girl dolls are $100 now. I don't know if they were $100.
42:55
Let's go. Let's just go the $30.00 that
42:58
she spent in 1988 and we'll say to modern time as close as we
43:08
can get. She spent.
43:14
Come on, give me the number $82.19 on a doll.
43:21
That does seem to go up. Think about Lego sets, like I
43:25
love getting my kids Lego sets and that's about the price that
43:29
I can expect if it's going to be a good one.
43:31
Yeah, you know, it's not just like a small handful of.
43:35
Exactly. Yeah.
43:38
Like if I want to give him a real build that that's going to
43:41
be kind of involved and fun to do, it's going to be 50 to $100.
43:46
Easily anyway. So fair, Fair for this type of
43:52
doll. I'm going to say it's fair, but
43:54
for some reason she lets him take that expensive toy to
43:57
school and and then they bounce, they leave.
44:01
Nobody stops. No attendance taken, no phone
44:04
calls made. The kid gets to rise.
44:07
On. Elevated train out to 40
44:10
something street where? Yeah, where there are, there's a
44:13
literal like crime happening when we cut to.
44:17
This area, yeah, it's it's the bad part of town.
44:21
But, you know, I think it's it's part of the suspension of
44:29
disbelief with this doll. And he's going to be fine going
44:34
out to this nearly abandoned house that, oh, Eddie is hiding
44:41
in. Must have been the hideout house
44:43
Chucky goes in to murder him. Yep.
44:48
Because. Not as good a kill, I'm going to
44:52
say. Oh right, because he sets it up
44:54
with the oven and the bullets are what ignite it.
44:59
But Eddie does see Andy searching for Chucky and.
45:04
That's the most impactful moment when there is a gun pointed at a
45:10
child and it's like, whoa. Doesn't he decide not to shoot
45:14
at him though? Like.
45:16
Yeah, he, he just, he spins around and he's got his very
45:20
heavy duty revolver pointed at a child and he decides not to
45:24
shoot. He looks nervous, like he
45:28
thought he was about to shoot. But we don't see Chucky.
45:32
I don't think Eddie sees Chucky. He hears Chucky's laugh.
45:37
But. It's not my favorite kill.
45:40
Fantastic explosion of a. House the right pyro direction
45:49
all the workers in that like you know I usually praise stunt guys
45:52
about the pyro team did excellent.
45:55
Oh yeah, two times in this movie we got really incredible
46:00
explosions. And yeah, so I'm I am into that.
46:06
And we don't see how. Then we cut to the mother going
46:14
to the police station and Andy's already there, but apparently
46:20
someone arrested him or picked him up.
46:24
And for some reason, like I don't, I don't know anything
46:26
about police departments and I definitely don't know about
46:29
policing in the big city. But I had thought that like
46:32
different areas of a city had different police stations.
46:37
And so it's, it would be strange to me that Andy's family's home
46:44
has the same police precinct as this bad side of town.
46:49
But you know, whatever, it's whatever.
46:52
I'm not going to let it take down my score anymore.
46:56
But for some reason, we got to be back with Officer Norris.
46:59
And once again, he is questioning a child with or.
47:04
No, it's not. It's Jack who's questioning the
47:06
child this time around. Jack makes another appearance.
47:14
Yeah, he doesn't get a lot to do in this movie, but this is kind
47:20
of the one. And OK, the main take away for
47:25
this whole police thing is that Andy is getting taken away to a
47:30
psych ward. So he can't be home when she
47:33
takes the doll home or. Yeah, and he can't take the doll
47:36
with him, so he is separated from Chucky.
47:42
Chucky goes with the mom and we're not going to see Andy for
47:46
a while. Like it's going to be a lot of
47:48
the movie before we get Andy back.
47:53
But we are close to the the 45 minute mark because oh boy is
48:00
the next scene one of the greatest scenes in all of
48:02
cinema. She demands that he shows
48:07
himself. She finds some batteries that
48:09
were never put in. I I'll agree that's a good
48:13
little reveal because it it it's kind of implied that this doll
48:19
probably would have had to have some batteries.
48:21
But that's never said until she checks the box and the batteries
48:26
fall out and it's like, Oh yeah. Oh so they would totally find
48:30
out just from this and she I imagine the character would have
48:36
had like goosebumps and chills being like wait.
48:40
I had goosebumps and chills. And like even then, Chucky still
48:45
doesn't reveal himself. She pulls the battery pack and
48:48
only his head spins around and he's still speaking in the the
48:52
doll voice where he's like, I'm Chucky or hi, I'm Chucky, you
48:56
want to play or something like that.
48:58
And it causes her to drop it and he rolls under the couch, but
49:02
he's still not being Chucky yet, Like he's still being a doll.
49:08
That's kind of creepy. And I'm I've got chills just
49:10
thinking about it because it was so good.
49:16
Oh, it's when she she gets him out from under the couch.
49:20
She like slaps him a couple of times and she's like, OK, I
49:23
guess maybe I'm crazy. But then she like picks him up,
49:27
turns on the the fireplace and she's like, I'm going to throw
49:30
you in this fireplace. And that's no, that's our 45
49:35
minute mark. And I that's a really good some
49:40
puppeteering that looks first rate.
49:43
I I'm curious when we get to the last one of these, if it stayed
49:48
puppet or if we add some CGI or what.
49:52
Yeah, I don't know anything about the 2017 reboot, but
49:56
around then Yoda had gone full CGI, so why not our Chucky doll?
50:04
Because it takes something away. Indeed it does.
50:10
Oh gosh, I'm so glad they give us this reveal.
50:15
There's a big fight. Chucky bites the mom, and then
50:22
it runs away. And when the doll's gone, a lot
50:28
of the wind gets pulled out of this movie sails like it becomes
50:34
like a bit of a detective story. You've got the two adult
50:38
characters working together, but I'm just, every time it's just
50:44
them. I don't like it.
50:46
I just don't like it. I don't.
50:48
Care about this. We know where it came from.
50:51
Can you guys just figure it out sooner?
50:53
Yeah, I guess. Yeah.
50:57
I think it. I don't know that you can
50:59
shorten it very much. Maybe where Mike is talking with
51:04
the mom, where she's driving her away.
51:10
Or maybe I've got the order mixed up.
51:13
I there OK in A Muppet Christmas Carol, when the ghost of
51:20
Christmas Past shows up and they are first flying away to the
51:25
past, Ebenezer Scrooge says Spirit and the ghost of
51:31
Christmas Past looks back and says yes.
51:35
And he says nothing. And then he immediately says
51:39
Spirit and asks an actual question.
51:43
We have that moment in this movie.
51:46
There's a point where she's yelling at Mike and she's like,
51:50
he's he's alive and I'm going to I'm going to do something about
51:53
it. And Mike turns around and then
51:56
she grabs him and pulls him around and says, well, fine, I'm
52:00
not talking to you anymore or something like that.
52:04
And I'm like, why did you need to turn him around for that?
52:07
Just walk away. Yeah.
52:11
I get it, The actors were most passionate.
52:14
That's probably the reason they took that take.
52:16
But Chris Sarandon turns around as though to walk away, and she
52:21
physically turns him back around to walk away.
52:27
It's it's just a little nitpick to me.
52:30
Anytime there is something like that in a movie, I'm always
52:33
like, why? Why was that there?
52:35
Why didn't you cut that? It's like you probably could
52:40
have, but yeah, trying to think. Well, she goes to the alley to
52:50
try to find the guy who sold her the toy.
52:58
Norris follows her because it gets a little gross and rapey in
53:04
that scene, and they find out that it was at the toy store.
53:09
Norris is like, well, that's the toy store where I killed Charles
53:12
Lee Ray Bom Bom Bom. And they're just like, well, now
53:21
we know. But Mike is like, I, I still
53:26
don't believe you go home. I'm going home to.
53:32
And that's when Chucky makes a big return in this movie.
53:36
Sneaks into the car. I I don't.
53:39
I may want to go back and see if I kind of I don't think.
53:43
We see him sneak in the car, he's just there.
53:46
Yeah, I kind of enjoy it when you do.
53:48
We get glimpses and it would be so fun.
53:52
Oh yeah, it was our first attempted strangling from the
53:58
Lakeshore Strangler. Because, I mean, that's the cop
54:03
that he wants to kill, and so there's reason for why he wants
54:08
to be in the car. But it does get us to a point
54:13
where Chucky gets shot while he's a doll and that apparently
54:16
causes him some pain. I I mean I think he makes some
54:20
noise, pain noises when he gets shot so should have understood
54:24
it from that but I didn't really understand it till the next
54:28
scene. Well, it's all the fluff that
54:31
comes out of him too. But I got to point out, this is
54:35
going to be a recurring trend, particularly in this franchise.
54:40
We get our first glimpse of Chucky stabbing through things
54:44
and being unable to stab the thing he wants to stab.
54:49
It's a little bit silly, It's a little bit funny.
54:52
I kind of laughed at it. As far as attempted kills go,
54:55
this is kind of more of a slapstick moment.
54:58
But when the car flips right before he gets shot, I think
55:02
that moved back into like genuinely scary stuff where he's
55:07
running around the car and laughing and making slashing
55:12
noises while Mike is trapped. Like I'm, I'm again, like, we've
55:20
had a great Chucky scene, kind of a bad Chucky scene.
55:25
Well, like a so, so Chucky scene and now another great Chucky
55:29
scene. And so I'm like, I'm having a
55:31
really great time with this doll.
55:33
Overall, it's a plus. I it's a horror movie, so yes,
55:42
this is just happening. But it's a little bit kind of
55:47
odd that Chucky doesn't end up killing him.
55:50
Kind of just runs away after getting shot.
55:53
Like, yes, he's in pain, but like, Mike is going to run out
55:57
of bullets pretty soon. Yeah.
55:59
Like and keep making him shoot. For all you know, you're
56:03
immortal, but apparently you're injured now.
56:07
So I didn't love it for the got a chance to finish the job and
56:15
just couldn't really make it happen when other horror movies
56:18
would be like, yeah, he gets him like he's dead.
56:21
He gets Eddie, but he can't get Mike.
56:23
And he had some pretty good chances, yeah.
56:28
And we could have he. Squandered a few of them.
56:30
Probably could have replaced Mike with someone else if if you
56:34
had started with two different people trying to help out the
56:37
lady. Like let one of them die and let
56:40
it be Mike. Or, you know, have Jack be a
56:44
little more involved in the movie and maybe have him get
56:46
killed at one point. But I don't know if I would
56:51
change anything anyway. Well, I don't know.
56:55
Now that I've said that out loud, I'm sitting here like,
56:58
maybe that would have helped move things along.
57:01
But yes, I do. The next scene is an interesting
57:07
one. It's more talkie, talkie.
57:09
But for some reason, because it's Chucky, I'm having a great
57:12
time with it. Oh, man, listening to him talk.
57:16
And then like there's a moment where it's only for like maybe a
57:21
few frames, maybe a second or two, but they cut to the the
57:26
body double wearing the Chucky suit and he's like bending down
57:30
to to sit on the counter. And I don't know why, but it
57:35
looked really good to me. I was like wow, look at this
57:38
Lord of the Rings looking shot. Yeah, I think the far away shots
57:44
with the whatever actor in the suit is probably one of the
57:49
pluses for me because it's it just gives that small enough
57:57
person that feels bigger than a child, smaller than an adult,
58:02
just in the range of ah, I don't know what that is.
58:06
And yeah, it works. Genuinely, it it works really
58:11
well. It is such a good costume and
58:15
it's it, it genuinely is not a good costume because if you
58:20
spend too much time on it, you definitely know it's, it's a
58:24
person in a suit. But if you get it for just like
58:28
a second or two, it sells the illusion you're like, that is an
58:33
animatronic doll or a moving doll.
58:35
But no, it's a person in a a rubber mask.
58:38
And so I, yeah, just wanted to point that out.
58:42
The scene itself, I mean, it gives us the voodoo magic, which
58:46
is going to, if I remember correctly, it's going to be kind
58:49
of a big deal for the rest of the franchise.
58:52
Well, apparently his heart is the first thing to become fully
58:56
human. And I feel like it's it's one of
59:01
those, this guy knew voodoo, so he knows what he's talking
59:04
about. It's like, all right, we have to
59:08
accept that because the climax depends on it.
59:13
OK, but here we go. Got to have a way to kill him.
59:16
Got to have a way to kill him. I mean, we don't.
59:21
I think this is the only horror franchise that I know of that
59:24
tells the audience what the weak spot is.
59:27
But but at least it told us it's an, it's an interesting unique
59:32
thing. But I'm thinking about like
59:33
Friday the 13th or Halloween or Alien Predator.
59:39
None of those have a moment where the characters are like,
59:42
and if we do this, we'll kill them.
59:45
Godzilla has a weak point like the original movie where they're
59:48
like, we've got a way to kill the monster, but I don't this.
59:54
I was kind of taken aback that they were like, and here's his
59:58
weak spot. Yeah, I it seemed like an odd
1:00:04
place. I was glad that Chucky was in
1:00:06
the scene because yeah, it makes it better, but it wasn't on odd.
1:00:11
It's kind of like the the New Orleans part of the James Bond
1:00:16
film where it's like, oh, we're in New Orleans now or something
1:00:20
like that. That that was the lowest scoring
1:00:25
film. Of course we're going to add
1:00:27
voodoo to the story. Like, OK, I mean, sure, it's all
1:00:32
right, but. Really the only big thing from
1:00:38
this scene is revealing that Chucky has to take the body of
1:00:44
Andy because he has to trade bodies with the first person he
1:00:50
revealed himself to. And that was undoubtedly Andy.
1:00:56
We saw it happen. They were, they were talking in
1:00:59
the apartment. So we, the audience know it's
1:01:02
Andy. Chucky knows it's Andy.
1:01:04
It's, it's undisputable, it's Andy.
1:01:08
And that's the important thing from this scene, that he's going
1:01:11
to be trying to kill Andy from now on.
1:01:13
And oh boy does it ramp up so well from here.
1:01:19
Like. Two scenes of or I guess 2
1:01:22
locations and we've got a good amount of chase and fight and
1:01:30
resolution followed by jump scares.
1:01:33
So yeah, I'd agree the. This final act, and I would say
1:01:39
the moment when he well, and I might be wrong, but I would say
1:01:42
the moment when he starts targeting Andy to the end of the
1:01:46
movie. I think I think we could call
1:01:49
that the last act of the movie. And in that I want to say this
1:01:54
is my 10 out of 10 part of the movie where like, and that might
1:01:59
be the reason why I wanted to give it a 10 out of 10.
1:02:01
Was the recency bias of like finishing the movie so strong.
1:02:07
Yeah, it is incredible the the psych ward and I hope this is
1:02:15
the scene that you and I are both thinking of when we want to
1:02:18
talk about the brilliant level of acting that I got to look up
1:02:23
his name Alex Vincent pulled off as a child or the child abuse
1:02:29
that we witnessed on screen. We don't know what.
1:02:32
And he's in his room and kind of, I think, oh, yeah.
1:02:39
So way back in the interrogation when Chucky wouldn't reveal
1:02:43
himself, and he kind of became a little bit worried that Chucky's
1:02:48
going to come and get him. And then he's watching out the
1:02:51
window and he spots Chucky. So he's freaking out.
1:02:54
And you see Chucky in the actor in the costume, like kind of
1:02:59
crawling, standing up because he's so short, going up the
1:03:03
stairs. I mean, it looks great.
1:03:05
It looks like a doll going up the stairs.
1:03:08
It is so good. I don't think he sees Chucky
1:03:13
again immediately, but he is terrified that Chucky's going to
1:03:20
kill him. And he is sobbing and pushed up
1:03:25
against the wall and saying please don't kill me, like, and
1:03:29
Chucky's not even there yet. And it is brutal.
1:03:33
It is. It's heart wrenching.
1:03:35
Either a kid actually terrified of it or very good acting.
1:03:41
Yeah, it's hard to tell which at that age, but it's a powerful
1:03:48
moment on film. And watching it back in 2026, it
1:03:55
it hit me. It hit me hard.
1:03:57
I was like, oh boy, that is a kid who is fearful for his life.
1:04:02
He thinks he is going to die today.
1:04:07
And yeah, I, I love it. I absolutely love this hospital
1:04:14
scene because I, I at this point, I fully believe that Andy
1:04:20
fears for his life and is going to do everything he can to
1:04:23
survive. And it, oh, it looks great.
1:04:27
It looks great. Yeah.
1:04:33
Just trying to briefly see if there's any sort of confirmation
1:04:36
of that, like hopefully just acting.
1:04:43
I mean, that might be something we have to come back to in the
1:04:46
wrap up because I don't know if we would find it, yeah.
1:04:48
Quickly. Unless you somehow saw it,
1:04:51
because I don't see anything here.
1:04:53
But when Chucky goes to kill him, Andy escapes and I, we got
1:04:59
to, we got to go to the next Chucky kill.
1:05:01
Oh yeah, there is going to be one more Chucky kill.
1:05:04
Before the doctor can calm down with the sedative, the Andy
1:05:08
screaming, he gets sliced and a shock helmet put on him, which I
1:05:16
guess this is a helmet that would help the patients of this
1:05:20
psych work but can actually electrocute a full grown human
1:05:25
to death. Yeah, so.
1:05:28
Fully be an electric chair style device, but I guess it's also
1:05:33
something good for therapy I guess.
1:05:36
Use. My only complaint?
1:05:39
It's a great kill and I I love watching his face get more
1:05:44
burned every time we cut to him. My biggest complaint?
1:05:50
Well, there's two things in this scene.
1:05:52
First, Andy backing up and bumping into two things that are
1:05:56
placed perfectly. It didn't age as well because
1:05:59
this is a child actor who is told to bump into these things.
1:06:03
And so you can see him with one of his hands reaching for these
1:06:07
things so he can find it and bump into it.
1:06:10
And so they, you know, they could have gotten away with just
1:06:14
one thing to bump into. And then the second thing,
1:06:20
surely, surely Chucky knows that the doctor has a sedative and is
1:06:25
going to put Andy to sleep, which would make his job so much
1:06:30
easier, and yet he decides to attack the doctor before the
1:06:34
injection is made. He's.
1:06:38
Just another Aunt Maggie that needs to die for no particularly
1:06:44
great reason other than he can't.
1:06:47
He can't kill Andy yet, so Andy has.
1:06:51
To we got to have more movie. My rating is dropping as I say
1:06:55
these words. Oh no.
1:06:58
Well, Andy escapes and the parents get to the hospital.
1:07:04
Or the mom. I'm saying the parents, the cop.
1:07:07
Is not the. Parent The mom gets to the
1:07:10
hospital, Jack is there and so they're able to get some
1:07:14
information about what happened and and get the lead for the
1:07:18
next area. But when we cut back to the
1:07:21
apartment and it's Andy trying to barricade himself in and then
1:07:27
trying to find a place to hide. Like I'm going to say tension
1:07:32
was pretty high for me. I was a little scared for this
1:07:35
kid. I feel like the apartment is
1:07:39
probably the scariest part of the movie up until Chucky
1:07:45
reveals himself inside the apartment.
1:07:47
But Andy getting ready and then knowing where Chucky is and then
1:07:53
them chasing each other like I was edge of my seat, having a
1:07:57
great time and being a little scared.
1:07:59
Yeah, they enjoy the barricade works for the door because the
1:08:04
parents can't get in, so Chucky wouldn't have been able to get
1:08:07
in. But Chucky jumps in through the
1:08:09
chimney of this apartment complex.
1:08:11
I guess the top floor has a chimney or something that he can
1:08:16
fit through. I do enjoy that later.
1:08:22
Let's see, the parents do get in because OK, so he does catch
1:08:26
Andy, knocks it out and starts doing chance though the parents,
1:08:33
the adults come in and the cop gets incapacitated.
1:08:42
Yeah, Mike is useless. He is just here as a hindrance
1:08:49
for the rest of this movie. He gets the final shot, but
1:08:54
leading up to that, he's just a burden for the rest of this
1:08:58
movie. Because they, the mom and Andy
1:09:03
in the main room managed to get Chucky into the fireplace.
1:09:07
But. Eventually.
1:09:08
Yeah, I was like, you know, they have to.
1:09:10
Oh, because. They first have to go through
1:09:13
the bedroom because we've got a a fully living Chucky pushing
1:09:17
against the door, trying to get in, stabbing at the door like so
1:09:23
I think the order of events is that the parents get in and
1:09:27
interrupt the ceremony or the chant, the ritual.
1:09:32
They're trying to get Andy up and then Chucky slices Mike in
1:09:38
the leg. Mike goes down, he grabs his
1:09:41
side piece, his side pistol, the one at his ankle and gives it to
1:09:48
the mom. And then they and that's how
1:09:51
they end up. In the other room I was like.
1:09:54
Yeah. And so eventually all of them
1:09:58
are in the bedroom and Chucky only has eyes for Andy.
1:10:03
There is a moment where he could have gotten a quick kill for
1:10:06
Mike and have finished his revenge quest.
1:10:09
He's. Got a which going into Andy
1:10:13
isn't really going to solve his problems.
1:10:16
He's going to be an 8 year old so.
1:10:19
A six year old. Even worse, he's he's still just
1:10:22
as small and weak. Yeah, that's so.
1:10:26
I mean, you have to get out of this body.
1:10:29
Like OK, but well, maybe you needed to to reveal yourself to
1:10:35
a different person but can't go back.
1:10:38
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
1:10:40
Eventually we do get into the fireplace and oh boy was I
1:10:46
frustrated at how long it took Andy to get his butt in gear.
1:10:52
Like that kid is frozen for way too long before.
1:10:56
He. Gets moved, I know, but he does
1:10:59
have a pretty great action movie one liner.
1:11:04
Which is why it's like, not to say that the kids a bad actor,
1:11:09
but he they've trapped him in the fireplace and Chucky's like,
1:11:15
no, can't we be friends? We'll be friends until the end.
1:11:18
Yeah. He's like, this is the end
1:11:22
friend and. So good.
1:11:25
Like that's a great line. And I love the way he delivers
1:11:30
it. I mean, I thought it was pretty
1:11:32
cheesy, but yes. See.
1:11:34
And I was like, I was like, get it, Andy.
1:11:37
I don't know. I was really into it at this
1:11:39
moment. See, I think the animatronic is
1:11:42
actually probably when it's flailing around in the fireplace
1:11:47
with the crazy hair. I think it's probably someone in
1:11:49
costume. Looks really cool.
1:11:53
The one running up on the couch and flaming out, that is a
1:11:57
person in a costume. Also in the 80s that couch would
1:12:02
have caught fire. Like the 80s were notorious for
1:12:05
having very flammable couches. And so like when Chucky gets on
1:12:10
there fully engulfed in flame and we even see fire still on
1:12:15
the couch, I'm sitting here like, how did they manage to get
1:12:19
the only fireproof couches in all of America in 1988?
1:12:25
And I could be wrong. Write to us at
1:12:27
potatochippicturespot@gmail.com to correct me if I'm wrong about
1:12:31
when we put flame retardant on couches.
1:12:38
But yeah, we think he's dead because he's on fire and he he
1:12:44
falls. But when we go back to help Mike
1:12:48
and then go to get the first aid kit, Chucky's gone and Andy's so
1:12:54
quiet about it. Oh, I was like, Andy, speak up,
1:12:58
Andy, speak up. Yeah, I I think that was AI.
1:13:05
Didn't expect him to. I was like, oh, we're wrapping
1:13:08
up good. They killed Chucky.
1:13:11
Like, oh, well, OK, well, I guess he's going to come back.
1:13:14
I did not expect it to be what, the first of three comebacks?
1:13:19
2 I think. So he comes back here and they
1:13:25
shoot him into pieces. Yep, they shoot his head off 1st
1:13:32
and then the the leg and then the arm.
1:13:37
Or is it the arm and then the legs I.
1:13:38
Think it's arm and then like and that the melted Chucky in the
1:13:44
hallway for like 2 split seconds is very creepy looking.
1:13:49
Oh yeah. Suit I mean so true.
1:13:52
It's like the costume person in a costume 1.
1:13:54
So that's what makes it feel so scarier.
1:13:59
That one probably is the scariest version of Chucky in
1:14:02
this. See, I don't, I don't know if
1:14:03
there's a person in a costume for any of the melted Chucky.
1:14:07
I think that is fully puppet. One shot that's like looks
1:14:12
bigger than a kid, but it's taken from like Andy's point of
1:14:15
view so. Yeah, I don't know.
1:14:17
I'd have to watch it a third time, which I absolutely will do
1:14:21
because I love this movie. But anyway, two more shots in
1:14:26
the back, and now we are sure that one of those shots had to
1:14:31
hit him in the heart like he's got to be dead.
1:14:34
Now. Jack shows up, he takes the gun.
1:14:38
We're telling the truth. We're saying the doll was alive,
1:14:42
but we finished it off. Like the day is saved, even
1:14:46
though Jack doesn't believe us. And they're like, don't touch
1:14:51
any part of that doll. And so the very first thing Jack
1:14:54
does is pick up the head man. I got so angry at him.
1:15:00
He did seem like a bit of a douche that the times that we've
1:15:03
been watching. Yeah, exactly.
1:15:05
He hasn't been in this movie for very much and every time he's
1:15:08
been a jerk. Yeah.
1:15:11
But he takes the doll in, he puts the head on there.
1:15:15
And then, for the second time in our movie, The Lakeshore
1:15:18
Strangler attempts to strangle someone because this is when the
1:15:25
body rips through the vent and puffs grabs him on the neck.
1:15:30
Just, you know, how dare you try and say that I'm not a killer
1:15:35
and the the head is like, kill him, kill him.
1:15:40
I didn't quite get to the first time and the second time it
1:15:43
would be left. I I completely forgot while he
1:15:47
is burned out and trying to get into the room he starts
1:15:50
screaming give me the boy give me the boy.
1:15:54
And I love the delivery it's so insane.
1:15:58
It is so mental and I think he goes back to screaming that here
1:16:03
too. He's like, give me the boy.
1:16:07
Yeah. Oh man, but then our cop has to
1:16:11
be the hero and Mike gets that final shot.
1:16:16
He's got an. Actual.
1:16:17
Heart right in the heart, because there's a heart
1:16:19
somewhere in there that is now a human heart because he's turning
1:16:23
into a human because that's how the magic works.
1:16:27
Like, okay, well yeah, he's got to die somehow, but guess what?
1:16:32
There's a Chucky, too. Well, and you know, the last
1:16:36
shot of the movie is a freeze frame on Andy staring at the
1:16:41
doll. It's a pretty decent shot.
1:16:44
But I will admit, at this point in movie making, I I don't like
1:16:50
it. I think so many 70s horror
1:16:53
movies that I've seen seem to end with a freeze frame.
1:16:57
It's another freeze frame. It didn't really get to me as
1:17:02
well as they probably thought it did, but but that's that's the
1:17:06
whole movie. We have we have gotten through
1:17:10
our first Chucky. And so to stop me from, you
1:17:16
know, saying anything that we should save for the wrap up, let
1:17:19
me just immediately go into saying on this podcast, we do
1:17:23
ratings, not grades. The particular or the the
1:17:26
specific difference between the two is where you find the
1:17:29
average in a grade. You say the average is a 7 out
1:17:32
of 10, which means you're going to raise other scores up to be
1:17:36
closer to the average because you know, the the average should
1:17:39
be a 7 out of 10. But we do ratings, we say the
1:17:43
average is a 5 out of 10. That's the middle.
1:17:46
That's where the middle should be.
1:17:49
So when you hear our scores, judge for it.
1:17:53
Judge our liking of it based on five out of 10 being an average
1:17:58
movie. And with all of that said,
1:18:00
Justin, what would you give Child's Play?
1:18:04
I think the first time when it was kind of a, a rough watch for
1:18:09
me, I it's, it was slow and it was hard to really pay attention
1:18:14
to sit and pay attention to. So I would have given it in the
1:18:19
fours initially on 2nd watch through.
1:18:22
I think watching the kid act and watching the animatronics and
1:18:30
maybe not quantifying the the mom being the turning point in
1:18:36
the movie where we can finally see Chucky alive.
1:18:40
Those were the positives to me. I didn't say it when we were
1:18:46
talking about the event, but that jump scare was kind of a
1:18:50
downer for me because like, the heads there, yes, we're not jump
1:19:00
scare just shouldn't Telegraph that it's going to happen.
1:19:03
But the body was just in the hallway.
1:19:08
It it didn't, I didn't love it. It's like oh he's back again.
1:19:12
That's why I feel like I kept preparing myself for 1/3 time.
1:19:15
Oh he's dead now? Like but OK.
1:19:17
The movie ended but I felt like he was supposed to come back and
1:19:19
get more time. I'll agree it did feel like
1:19:22
there was going to be one more cut back to Chucky and he's
1:19:25
alive again. I went up to about a 6 1/2 and
1:19:29
then it came back down to 6.1 because I feel like above
1:19:35
average. I enjoy some things.
1:19:38
I would probably be able to confidently say watch the first
1:19:43
Chucky. It is scary at parts, a little
1:19:48
lame at others, but if you enjoy watching movies, probably would
1:19:54
enjoy this one. I'm going to agree with you.
1:19:57
I think this movie is a classic and I think it is worth a watch.
1:20:01
And I am kind of ashamed that it took me this long to watch it
1:20:07
because I'd I just had never seen it before.
1:20:10
And now I'm sitting here saying this.
1:20:15
I'm worried that this is going to be the best movie in the
1:20:19
franchise because I had a great time with it.
1:20:23
I am absolutely going to watch it again.
1:20:27
It really was a shock at how good this movie continues to be
1:20:32
in 2026. I do think that it has a lot of
1:20:38
weak points. And so for me, this is a story
1:20:43
of my rating getting pulled down because of some of the moments
1:20:48
in the movie. But overall, I've got a fairly
1:20:52
high view of the movie. It's just that these parts, I
1:20:55
can't, I can't help but point them out.
1:21:00
And we've already talked about it.
1:21:01
It's mostly it's Mike, Detective Mike Norris.
1:21:05
I just think he's kind of the worst part of the movie.
1:21:11
I don't love any of the times when we are separated from Andy
1:21:17
and Chucky. I I realize as I'm watching it,
1:21:22
I'm having them. I'm most engaged when one of
1:21:26
those two characters are in the scene.
1:21:30
I'm horrified by Andy's breakfast in bed at the
1:21:35
beginning of the movie, but I am focused and then I'm kind of
1:21:38
bored when we're at work, and then I'm focused again when
1:21:42
we're at home, and then I'm bored when Andy gets taken to
1:21:45
the psych ward and Chucky runs away.
1:21:48
So there are boring moments and they're all to do with not
1:21:53
having our two main characters. But I think the special effects
1:21:59
are incredible. There is really only one effect
1:22:04
that I hated and that is right at the end of the movie when the
1:22:08
burnt out doll, the headless burnt out doll gets pushed into
1:22:14
like where the window is and you can kind of see a hand through
1:22:20
the curtain grabbing the doll to kind of help support it and help
1:22:24
with the puppeting of this thing.
1:22:29
And so I, I, I've noticed it both times that I've watched the
1:22:32
movie. I'm like, that's definitely a
1:22:34
human hand. So All in all, I'm I'm at a
1:22:39
seven. I think this is a genuinely
1:22:43
incredible movie that has a few weak points but is absolutely
1:22:49
worth re watching in 2026. Some days it's it's probably an
1:22:56
8 for me, but there there really are some weak moments that kind
1:23:03
of pull me out of it. And I think 7 is a pretty fair
1:23:07
rating All in all. And that gives us a show average
1:23:13
of 6.55, which I think is also pretty fair to what this movie
1:23:20
is and was. I didn't look up really anything
1:23:26
about the making of this movie. I don't know anything about the
1:23:30
next movie. I know that there's one in the
1:23:34
Child's Play titles that has to do with like a Military Academy
1:23:41
because I've, I've seen clips from that one, maybe like the
1:23:44
second-half of it, but it's been like 20 years since I've seen
1:23:49
that. And then as I was looking at the
1:23:51
movie posters, I think the only of Chucky movies I've seen was
1:23:56
The Cult of Chucky. But it could have been, no, it
1:23:59
was the Seed. I think it was.
1:24:01
No, I don't know. There will be one that we get to
1:24:04
that. I will be like that's the one
1:24:06
I've seen but I don't know which one it is.
1:24:12
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1:25:47
with your friends and be like, hey, check this out, you might
1:25:50
like it. And you know, we'll just have to
1:25:54
see what happens in the future. Maybe things will change and
1:25:58
we'll get back to making shorts. But as of right now, I can't
1:26:01
think of a visual component that I can add to these shorts
1:26:06
without incurring the wrath of the copyright gods.
1:26:14
I'm sad about that. I'm, I'm a little sad, but at
1:26:17
the same time it was a lot of work and that's less work that
1:26:21
I've had to do since they started dinging us.
1:26:25
I've been like, all right, well, that makes my life a little bit
1:26:28
easier. I don't have a sign out for
1:26:34
this. I'm trying to think of anything
1:26:37
that that could work. Because we did.
1:26:41
James Bond will return. Chucky will return in Yeah.
1:26:46
But they don't have a Chucky will return, so we can't do
1:26:49
that. I I was thinking maybe like
1:26:53
watch out for voodoo magic or something.
1:26:55
I don't know. I'm I'm at a complete loss as to
1:26:59
how to in this one. So.
1:27:02
Until next time, watch your ankles.
1:27:05
And there you go. I like watch your ankles.
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Sliced up like the doctor's ankle and Mike's ankle.
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And Mike's ankle, and I'm sure he's going to get more ankles
1:27:14
because he's right there at ankle length.
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Yeah. So until next time, watch your
1:27:21
ankles. Goodbye.