Latest / The Breakfast Club / Dr Angela Zeng Talks Traditional Chinese Medicines, The Health Benefits Of Karviva & More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yep, it's the world most dangerous morning show to breakfast Club.
- 0:02Speaker 1: DJ Nvy just hilarious, Charlamagne and God. Envy is not here,
- 0:05Speaker 1: but Laura LaRosa is that. We got a special guest
- 0:07Speaker 1: in the building. She is the founder of Carbiva Beverages,
- 0:11Speaker 1: a plant based well in this beverage company rooted in
- 0:14Speaker 1: traditional Chinese medicine and nutrition. Doctor Angela zanis here.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Good, good morning, your great honor, and I follow your
- 0:24Speaker 2: show in a.
- 0:25Speaker 3: Few years already love all your topics, but it's so
- 0:29Speaker 3: cool to steal.
- 0:31Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Now you are the founder of Carviva Beverages. Tell us
- 0:34Speaker 1: what that is?
- 0:35Speaker 3: Oh yeah, careba, I found this line. Well, it's basically
- 0:39Speaker 3: we've been on a market for nine years now, but
- 0:42Speaker 3: I started building a plant, sayce ten years ago, but
- 0:46Speaker 3: the idea started much longer, further beyond ten years. I
- 0:51Speaker 3: will say, you know, it's is I thank God bless
- 0:54Speaker 3: us that we're being on a market for ten years,
- 0:57Speaker 3: because you know, many of the small beverage friends don't
- 1:00Speaker 3: even make through the first year. I grew up in
- 1:04Speaker 3: a family with deep reducing traditional Chinese medicine, so since
- 1:08Speaker 3: I was little, I was just fascinated by I would
- 1:12Speaker 3: say not just this powerful ancient healing arts, but also
- 1:18Speaker 3: the living philosophy I was taught from my grandparents, and
- 1:24Speaker 3: of course my parents as well. I think there's lots
- 1:27Speaker 3: of misunderstanding on TCM traditional Chinese medicine. Well, don't get
- 1:34Speaker 3: me wrong. It's very complex, is most of the books
- 1:38Speaker 3: I've written in this ancient language. It's even hard for
- 1:43Speaker 3: a Chinese, modern Chinese to understand what's talking about.
- 1:47Speaker 4: So I think.
- 1:48Speaker 3: It's perfectly fine. Most of people from other culture don't
- 1:52Speaker 3: understand what exactly TCM. People just think about some strange
- 1:55Speaker 3: herbs and some soups, some remedies. Maybe it's gonna make
- 1:59Speaker 3: me feel better. And it was never regarded as a
- 2:02Speaker 3: mainstream medical science.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Because it's like this natural stuff right from it.
- 2:08Speaker 3: It's all natural, it's all natural. But look at this
- 2:13Speaker 3: natural medicine is not limited to East Asian countries. You
- 2:19Speaker 3: can find it in anywhere. Native Americans, for example, we
- 2:23Speaker 3: use a ronina berry in our detox juice. I have
- 2:25Speaker 3: been used for centrists by Native Americans, not just an
- 2:31Speaker 3: additional food. They use it for healing. And then the
- 2:35Speaker 3: modern science clinical study, hundreds of them show this amazing
- 2:42Speaker 3: Barry cure many disease, including diabetic complications, even cancer. That's
- 2:50Speaker 3: just how powerful nature brands modern Nature are offering us.
- 2:56Speaker 1: I'm sure pharmaceutical companies hate hate.
- 3:01Speaker 3: You said it so well. I think I also like
- 3:03Speaker 3: to look into the history of food culture, especially natural
- 3:09Speaker 3: medicine culture. So the general concern is, if you look
- 3:15Speaker 3: at the modern medicine, it was involved from kind of
- 3:20Speaker 3: like this holistic medicine. Many of the compounds we used
- 3:25Speaker 3: nowadays days are still coming from plants. Something naturally exists.
- 3:31Speaker 3: But eventually what we have been doing is we study
- 3:35Speaker 3: them and then we purify them, and then we realize
- 3:39Speaker 3: we actually can't make them more impotent. Just like the
- 3:41Speaker 3: GLP one. Yeah, people think, oh, it's a wonder drug
- 3:45Speaker 3: for weight loss, but it's naturally exists. It was first
- 3:51Speaker 3: studied in a very special species of lizard, and then
- 3:55Speaker 3: scientists gun, yeah, yeah, it was from lizard, and scientists
- 4:00Speaker 3: got really curious. They started to try to understand what
- 4:05Speaker 3: does this compound do, And then pharmaceutical company got excited
- 4:09Speaker 3: about it, and then they purify it and they start
- 4:12Speaker 3: to synthesize it, and then of course with chemical engineers
- 4:18Speaker 3: made it much more like they call it the half
- 4:22Speaker 3: life much longer because the native compound they don't survive
- 4:27Speaker 3: RADI is not like they can want to be potent
- 4:29Speaker 3: for such a long time.
- 4:31Speaker 4: Wow.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Yeah, so they diluted with a bunch of different other
- 4:35Speaker 2: chemicals to give you side effects like where you start.
- 4:39Speaker 3: Well, not really, what they did is they modified the
- 4:43Speaker 3: native compound so the half life become much longer, much stable. Okay,
- 4:50Speaker 3: so the native compound probably only acting for a few
- 4:53Speaker 3: minutes or so for example. But the chemicals now we're
- 4:59Speaker 3: using the market that can last for more than the day,
- 5:03Speaker 3: much longer time, and it's much more potent. That's why
- 5:08Speaker 3: people have side effects, especially lots of users when they
- 5:11Speaker 3: first started drug. Maybe they got too excited and they
- 5:14Speaker 3: want to see fast results. They jump on to the
- 5:16Speaker 3: higher those too quickly, and that's not pretty. And I
- 5:20Speaker 3: heard lots of side effects when I actually, as a
- 5:23Speaker 3: matter of fact, we were invited, we were selected to
- 5:26Speaker 3: this neurosien Change conference just about three weeks ago, and
- 5:30Speaker 3: I was talking to a bunch of physicians and people
- 5:34Speaker 3: from kind of manage like complications from taking medicines telling
- 5:40Speaker 3: me those stories. Yeah, people didn't understand how to take
- 5:44Speaker 3: them properly, and then they would take the pill. They
- 5:48Speaker 3: would go eat their favorite you know, like McDonald's big macmeal,
- 5:52Speaker 3: and then it's all staff there. It cannot digest the
- 5:55Speaker 3: food because that slows down your digestive track movement, right,
- 6:00Speaker 3: and the outcome is not nice. And then you have
- 6:03Speaker 3: to help those patients, you know, to recover from those
- 6:06Speaker 3: not to mention. Now common issue is even dehydration or
- 6:11Speaker 3: malnutrition because it really inhibits your appetite.
- 6:16Speaker 4: How long is the shelf life for a carve ever?
- 6:18Speaker 3: Oh yeah, great question. It's a year. And most people
- 6:22Speaker 3: ask me, how did you make it? Very simple traditional remedy.
- 6:27Speaker 3: We actually don't use co press juice. Lots of people
- 6:30Speaker 3: ask me, it's this a co pressed juice, And I
- 6:32Speaker 3: always have to say, I have nothing against co pressed juice.
- 6:36Speaker 3: It's just a different way. This is we follow the
- 6:40Speaker 3: traditional way philosophy of making remedies. So the first thing
- 6:47Speaker 3: you probably alread I heard you know this this East
- 6:50Speaker 3: Asian people don't like cold drinks with like cold food.
- 6:55Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, because the belief is raw food and cold
- 7:00Speaker 3: drinks damage your digestive cheese. So it's really simple. Your
- 7:06Speaker 3: body needs to use the energy to warm up the food,
- 7:09Speaker 3: and raw food is just harder to digest because you know,
- 7:12Speaker 3: for example, if you eat of course, I hope nobody
- 7:15Speaker 3: eating raw meat because that's that can be really dangerous.
- 7:19Speaker 3: What about sushi, Sushi, great question, Susie. Yeah, I have
- 7:23Speaker 3: to say, I love sushi, but I'm always a little
- 7:26Speaker 3: bit scared of raw fish because I'm always worried about,
- 7:29Speaker 3: you know, potential pesticized contamination because you just don't know,
- 7:32Speaker 3: you know, unless you if you really Yeah, if you
- 7:34Speaker 3: go to Japan, maybe go to a high end sushi restaurant,
- 7:38Speaker 3: and that's that's cool, but you know, but the good
- 7:41Speaker 3: thing is most of the sushi the pit pair here,
- 7:45Speaker 3: I would think that use some some kind of preservatives. Yeah,
- 7:48Speaker 3: just for example, being sprous. I use tons of sprous
- 7:51Speaker 3: in my juice. The reason is, well, think about this
- 7:54Speaker 3: sprouse is the baby plants. That's the most nutrients danced
- 7:59Speaker 3: face over plants is packed with minerals, proteins, natural antioxidants, fibers,
- 8:07Speaker 3: and it's naturally most of the sprous are naturally sugar free.
- 8:10Speaker 3: If you want sugar free food, go with the sprouse.
- 8:15Speaker 3: But the problem with sprouse is well, high water content.
- 8:19Speaker 3: So the FGA actually requires the sprouse grower. When you
- 8:23Speaker 3: ship out the fresh sprous, you need to put preservatives inside.
- 8:29Speaker 3: That's required. So I don't know. I'm not a sushi
- 8:32Speaker 3: chef and don't deal with that business, so I would
- 8:35Speaker 3: think they have something to preserve the raw. Yeah. But
- 8:39Speaker 3: speaking of like raw plants, the reason traditional Chinese medicine
- 8:44Speaker 3: is against that, especially for women, because we believe women
- 8:47Speaker 3: is more in in nature. Men, on the other hand,
- 8:50Speaker 3: is more young young in nature, right, so for us,
- 8:54Speaker 3: we need to do more care to preserve this digestive
- 8:57Speaker 3: chee which is the foundation for healthy reproductive health. And
- 9:03Speaker 3: we believe to have a healthy reproductive system is the
- 9:07Speaker 3: foundation of maintaining your youth and longevity, especially important for women.
- 9:12Speaker 3: So that's why we kind of like to cook everything. Yeah,
- 9:16Speaker 3: But the traditional Chinese remedy, uh, the making process can
- 9:20Speaker 3: be extremely complex, but we actually simplify it to a
- 9:24Speaker 3: low temperature extraction process. So basically the principle is using
- 9:29Speaker 3: natural masters without chemicals to get the active compounds out.
- 9:35Speaker 3: Because nowadays days if you look at any of even
- 9:38Speaker 3: how they make almond milk is using harsh chemicals, right,
- 9:42Speaker 3: they have to Yeah, they have to you know, yeah,
- 9:46Speaker 3: and all those things versus if like our traditional way
- 9:51Speaker 3: of making soy milk, it's just really simple. It's boil
- 9:54Speaker 3: it up and blend it and then get the the
- 9:59Speaker 3: soy milk liquid part of them. So we've been out.
- 10:02Speaker 3: That's it. Yeah.
- 10:04Speaker 1: So what are some of the health benefits of carb Yeah, well.
- 10:09Speaker 3: That's basically says a lot. My favorite one is always
- 10:12Speaker 3: the detox juice. The detox why because even thousands of
- 10:17Speaker 3: years ago our ancestors understand how important it is to
- 10:21Speaker 3: do this regular detoxic vacation of because the reason is
- 10:26Speaker 3: we're surrounded by toxins. Even thousands of years ago, you
- 10:30Speaker 3: will say, oh, there's no chemicals, what are you talking about.
- 10:34Speaker 3: There's pathogens in naturally exists in nature. They are sayings
- 10:37Speaker 3: that our body just don't like. And then their natural
- 10:41Speaker 3: byproducts that our body produced. All those biochemistry reaction in
- 10:47Speaker 3: our body, right so, and sometimes just too much for
- 10:53Speaker 3: our body to illuminate naturally. That's why we emphasize our
- 10:58Speaker 3: daily gentle detox and the stays even become more important.
- 11:02Speaker 3: It's not about drinking some harsh liquid or taking some
- 11:06Speaker 3: pills to make you go to bathroom five six times
- 11:09Speaker 3: a day. That was never the What we were talking
- 11:13Speaker 3: about in terms of how to detox about it naturally
- 11:17Speaker 3: is really using the natural plants. Many times natural plants.
- 11:21Speaker 3: Sometimes we use herbs, additional herbs to help your liver,
- 11:25Speaker 3: your system, your digestive track, and your skin to get
- 11:28Speaker 3: rid of the toxes. And that's why we use for example,
- 11:33Speaker 3: mound beings, we use auruna berry. We use those natural
- 11:37Speaker 3: up fruits, supererbs, superfruits to kind of help all body
- 11:43Speaker 3: to eliminate the the toxic compounds. And their clinical study
- 11:48Speaker 3: even to show for example, mound being, mum being sprouts
- 11:50Speaker 3: contains to natural compounds. That's what they find. Two kilates
- 11:55Speaker 3: its basically a simple biophysical reaction. Kilates having mentored helps
- 12:00Speaker 3: all the money to get rid off them. So another
- 12:03Speaker 3: another drink I really like is the collagen hydration drink
- 12:08Speaker 3: that is sports drinks. Collagen is now everyone in this
- 12:14Speaker 3: country knows about collagen. Not only is great for girls,
- 12:17Speaker 3: but important for men as well because collagen is important
- 12:21Speaker 3: for our cardiovascular health. People don't think about that. And
- 12:25Speaker 3: a fun way you can test water your lacking of collagen,
- 12:27Speaker 3: we call it just pull your air and see if
- 12:30Speaker 3: the skin here is is very loose, right, you you
- 12:36Speaker 3: need collagen. You need to push up your college lose thing.
- 12:39Speaker 4: You need collagen.
- 12:40Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like like here, okay, you know you can
- 12:43Speaker 3: see one way age, right, you see the older man.
- 12:46Speaker 4: You look at me. You tell me, do I need something?
- 12:48Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my loose. I think you're fine.
- 12:54Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I think you're there. You need yeah, you're good.
- 13:05Speaker 3: So the collagen is so it makes you feel good.
- 13:11Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 13:11Speaker 3: People teaching this.
- 13:14Speaker 1: Helps you call your bath health.
- 13:15Speaker 3: Yes, because your blood vessel needs collagen. Integrity of your
- 13:20Speaker 3: blood vessel and not to mention, you're joining your skin,
- 13:23Speaker 3: your hair. It's the most abundant natural compound protein compound
- 13:28Speaker 3: in animals body. Oh, but most people understand the collagen
- 13:33Speaker 3: pipe tie. They would spend lots of money to buy
- 13:35Speaker 3: them pipe tie, but they don't understand. That's just part
- 13:38Speaker 3: of the story. You also need the natural minerals for example, copper, iron, yeah, magnesium, selenium,
- 13:45Speaker 3: all those natural minerals to help you about it, to
- 13:47Speaker 3: synthesize the college. Just think about this. Why traditional Chinese
- 13:52Speaker 3: medicine pays so much attention to digestive health because if
- 13:57Speaker 3: your digestive system is weak. You can spend thousands of
- 14:01Speaker 3: dollars dollars buying the most premium food and supplements, your
- 14:05Speaker 3: body cannot utilize them. It's basically just go down the
- 14:09Speaker 3: drain and just totally wasted. That's why we believe and
- 14:12Speaker 3: also talk to any medical uh classic trained medical doctor,
- 14:17Speaker 3: they will all the same. If a critically yield patient
- 14:20Speaker 3: don't want to eat anything, cannot take do any food,
- 14:23Speaker 3: that's not a good sign. That's not a good sign. Yeah,
- 14:26Speaker 3: if you have elder people at home, you want to
- 14:29Speaker 3: make sure they still have appetite, they want to eat,
- 14:32Speaker 3: because if your body start to reject food, cannot utilize
- 14:37Speaker 3: the food properly, you're gonna lose your health really quick.
- 14:41Speaker 4: Like you said, so peptide, that's just one part of
- 14:44Speaker 4: It's just one process, right.
- 14:45Speaker 3: You need other things to help your body to symthesized
- 14:49Speaker 3: collagen molecules that your body can utilize. Because you're taking
- 14:53Speaker 3: a foreign object in, how do you turn that into
- 14:58Speaker 3: your own part of your own? Tis shir you you like?
- 15:02Speaker 3: We actually the collagen we use here is not a
- 15:07Speaker 3: natured peptide. It's a natural collagen compound associated with a glycoprotein.
- 15:14Speaker 3: So it's basically it's purified from a small part of salmon,
- 15:18Speaker 3: but well salmon harvested in Japan. And so what happened
- 15:22Speaker 3: is through generations in Japan, people actually love this little
- 15:27Speaker 3: cartridge in salmon. They actually marinated in rice vinegar and
- 15:32Speaker 3: it's a it's a yummy side dish because it's very
- 15:35Speaker 3: crunchy and it's super healthy. It's pretty much, you know,
- 15:42Speaker 3: no sugar, sugar free, fat free, it's just pure collagen, mineral,
- 15:48Speaker 3: natural kind of like food. But it's also tasteful. It's
- 15:51Speaker 3: almost like a just a little nice appetiser for them.
- 15:55Speaker 3: But the outcome is they have very healthy joints. You know.
- 16:00Speaker 3: So if you go to Japan, especially part of the Japan,
- 16:04Speaker 3: the people there, even though they're in their nineties, even
- 16:07Speaker 3: one hundred years old, they can still walk around, they
- 16:09Speaker 3: can still enjoying their life, right, So the life quality
- 16:13Speaker 3: is much higher. And I think the diet they have
- 16:18Speaker 3: is a big contributor.
- 16:20Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 16:20Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, like, okay, so would you also
- 16:24Speaker 2: encourage people to have a clean diet while drinking caraveva
- 16:28Speaker 2: every day?
- 16:29Speaker 3: Oh?
- 16:29Speaker 4: Ideally, we do have.
- 16:31Speaker 3: Here's the thing I'm not just self promoting my product,
- 16:35Speaker 3: but we receive regularly people sending us emails or feedback
- 16:40Speaker 3: how wonderful their body field. I even have several customers
- 16:44Speaker 3: sending email telling me that after half a year they
- 16:48Speaker 3: were drinking, they've been drinking Cave juices regularly, and then
- 16:52Speaker 3: they went back to do their physical checkup. Their doctor
- 16:55Speaker 3: asked them, what did you do? Yeah, everything just becomes
- 16:59Speaker 3: so much better. But on the other hand, I also
- 17:01Speaker 3: think because CAREBA, I always feel like it's a philosophy.
- 17:05Speaker 3: We try to help people to rebuild their healthy connection
- 17:09Speaker 3: with food. Yeah, also help them to become more mindful
- 17:14Speaker 3: when they put something into their mouths because now these
- 17:17Speaker 3: days we do lots of stress eating, right, Yeah, it
- 17:20Speaker 3: is it is we're under everyone, Yeah, and overeating.
- 17:24Speaker 5: Or if you're maneuvering a lot, like you're not eating
- 17:27Speaker 5: like the best meals and you probably eating like once
- 17:29Speaker 5: a day, Like I know that's not good either.
- 17:32Speaker 3: Yeah, depends on your body. It all depends on everyone.
- 17:35Speaker 3: But everyone has has a builder and especially from women.
- 17:40Speaker 3: For men, it's the same. Our body change every day
- 17:44Speaker 3: the hormone cycle, and most people don't realize the horomone
- 17:48Speaker 3: has a big impact on our brain. Our brain function.
- 17:51Speaker 3: Same thing for men, it's a daily cycle for men
- 17:54Speaker 3: for women. For women is even more complex. We have
- 17:58Speaker 3: that cycle. So I think it is I just hope
- 18:02Speaker 3: you know it's it's like a messaging a bottle. And
- 18:05Speaker 3: I think most people when they start to take care,
- 18:07Speaker 3: but they also think a little bit carefully about are
- 18:09Speaker 3: the part of their lifestyle, Like you know, maybe they
- 18:12Speaker 3: would do a little bit more movements throughout the day
- 18:17Speaker 3: and find ways to distress. All those factors are so important.
- 18:21Speaker 3: So I'm not surprised if they are telling me, you know,
- 18:24Speaker 3: now their physical you know, checkout marks have become so
- 18:28Speaker 3: much better. Instead of alrad they become you know, gring.
- 18:32Speaker 3: So yeah, do you.
- 18:36Speaker 4: Do you eat from the Chinese carry out here?
- 18:40Speaker 3: Great question? We all love Chinese Asian carry outs. They're
- 18:46Speaker 3: so authentic, but most of them are not authentic. I
- 18:50Speaker 3: think New York. You can find in New York, of course,
- 18:53Speaker 3: you can find a lot more authentic Chinese food compared
- 18:57Speaker 3: to some other parts of the country. Right, But on
- 19:00Speaker 3: the other side, I can't see it. I can also
- 19:03Speaker 3: understand why the Chinese restaurant had to do that, because
- 19:08Speaker 3: we need to adapt. Okay, same thing. You know, if
- 19:11Speaker 3: I give you the original, the traditional remedy, I just
- 19:15Speaker 3: packed that in a bottle, you probably will say, Doctor Angela,
- 19:21Speaker 3: you can tell me I drink this, I can leave
- 19:24Speaker 3: to one hundred years old. I'm not going to take
- 19:26Speaker 3: it because I can't. I can't because we do use
- 19:30Speaker 3: a lot of strong herbs, you know, the herbs. I
- 19:33Speaker 3: remember when I was little, I had to personally you know,
- 19:36Speaker 3: like some honey or something inside in order to drink
- 19:39Speaker 3: those remedies. But they're truly helpful, helpful.
- 19:44Speaker 1: Another thing y'all have that I like is the car
- 19:46Speaker 1: Beaver Unwine Oh, which is a line of non alcoholic
- 19:50Speaker 1: wine alternative design to replace traditional wine while offering health benefits.
- 19:56Speaker 3: Yes. Yes, So what happened is I had a friend
- 20:00Speaker 3: and interesting enough, this friend is a friend with a
- 20:05Speaker 3: with a with a story in Hollywood. And then she's like,
- 20:08Speaker 3: I went to all these social events. I'm so frustrated
- 20:12Speaker 3: because all the alcohol free non alcohol wine they don't
- 20:15Speaker 3: taste good. It's like, well, I heard from my friend
- 20:18Speaker 3: that I trace the close friend and she she told me,
- 20:24Speaker 3: can you help me to develop a non alcohol drink
- 20:27Speaker 3: that truly tastes good? But give the health manifests I want,
- 20:31Speaker 3: so I dig hard into our remedy connections, collections. So
- 20:37Speaker 3: basically what I did is not because all the the
- 20:40Speaker 3: alcoholized the wine on the market is they make the
- 20:43Speaker 3: wine first, real wine first. Then there's three different ways
- 20:48Speaker 3: to remove the alcohol. They would use one of the
- 20:51Speaker 3: ways to take the alcohol out and that process. During
- 20:55Speaker 3: that process, they destroy the natural aroma, the beauty of
- 20:59Speaker 3: the wine people people enjoying. That's why most of the
- 21:03Speaker 3: de alcoholized no alcohol wine, they don't taste very good
- 21:07Speaker 3: compared to the real wine. So instead of taking that approach,
- 21:11Speaker 3: what I did is I basically modified tweaked natural remedies
- 21:18Speaker 3: we used for gosh thousands, hundreds of years to promote
- 21:23Speaker 3: healthy liver, hard and brain, you know brain, especially brain health.
- 21:27Speaker 3: So I basically can't make that remedy tastes like a
- 21:30Speaker 3: dry version of the wine.
- 21:32Speaker 4: So I did.
- 21:33Speaker 3: That's what I did with unwine. So it's not really
- 21:36Speaker 3: a de alcoholized the wine. It's basically a remedy, an
- 21:40Speaker 3: ancient remedy we used to almost like overcome the health
- 21:44Speaker 3: damage from over consumption of alcohol or some toxins.
- 21:50Speaker 1: Now is in a lot of stores, right, but how
- 21:53Speaker 1: do you compete against like these billion dollar soda companies
- 21:57Speaker 1: that spent all this money on marketing and they spend
- 22:00Speaker 1: more than a lot of healthfuld companies spending a year.
- 22:02Speaker 1: How do you compete with them?
- 22:03Speaker 3: Great question, that's the question every entrepreneurs or brand owners
- 22:10Speaker 3: in the food and barage space, or even any CpG
- 22:12Speaker 3: products space have to ask. After saying that there's no
- 22:17Speaker 3: secret in the barriage field and frozen food, the slotting
- 22:22Speaker 3: costs is warmers. And also you know not to mention
- 22:25Speaker 3: like big brands, legacy brands, they pay millions of dollars
- 22:29Speaker 3: just to keep their shelf space in addition to all
- 22:32Speaker 3: the ads money they spend routinely. I think the way
- 22:36Speaker 3: we did that, we're still doing that, we're still learning
- 22:39Speaker 3: new ways. Is basically it's almost like in politician campaigns,
- 22:45Speaker 3: like the grassroot approach. You have to pay build up
- 22:50Speaker 3: a strong fan base. That's the only way to win.
- 22:54Speaker 3: And then the other thing is I feel like one
- 22:57Speaker 3: thing differentiate small brands from the lack sequence is we
- 23:01Speaker 3: truly pay attention to the quality quality in terms of
- 23:05Speaker 3: like because now the functional food and drinks become so trendy.
- 23:09Speaker 3: When I first started, it was still very new. It
- 23:13Speaker 3: was I remember many many people ask me, you know
- 23:16Speaker 3: what is mong food? Is what is prabatic? We were
- 23:19Speaker 3: the first brand actually raised the concept of probatic in
- 23:23Speaker 3: beverage because you know, again night classic trained medical scientists.
- 23:28Speaker 3: But nowadays days everyone wants to make a functional drink,
- 23:32Speaker 3: want to make a functional even ice cream. Nothing wrong
- 23:35Speaker 3: with that. But again, when you start to do that,
- 23:38Speaker 3: you are getting into You're debating away from just making
- 23:42Speaker 3: a yammy tasty snack or a smoothy drink. We are
- 23:48Speaker 3: tapping into the territory. It's almost like medical food when
- 23:52Speaker 3: I was working in pharmaceutical, right, not really a medical pill,
- 23:57Speaker 3: but we are saying it's almost like supplement. We're saying, oh,
- 24:01Speaker 3: drink this, you're going to have stronger, hard or stronger joints.
- 24:07Speaker 3: I feel like when we start to offer that kind
- 24:10Speaker 3: of promise to consumer, we need to have some concrete evidence.
- 24:15Speaker 3: You know, for me, is built upon career is built
- 24:18Speaker 3: upon thousands of years of uses, all those remedies. If
- 24:23Speaker 3: our ancestors been using them and then now these days
- 24:27Speaker 3: lots of people still using them and feel the benefits, well,
- 24:31Speaker 3: do you have to say, oh, we need like a
- 24:33Speaker 3: large classic called clinical trial to prove the health manifests.
- 24:37Speaker 3: We can debate on that, but on the other side,
- 24:39Speaker 3: I also research each you know, the natural compounds in
- 24:43Speaker 3: our ingredients to make sure there's some scientific evidence to
- 24:46Speaker 3: support health manifests. I'm just hoping, you know, small brands
- 24:50Speaker 3: owner will do more of that to make sure the
- 24:54Speaker 3: credibility of their product, their brand, because again I think
- 24:58Speaker 3: consumer again, most consumers, they love the legacy brands because
- 25:04Speaker 3: we've been just brainwashed. We've been told just to drink them,
- 25:08Speaker 3: to eat them throughout life. But on the other side,
- 25:12Speaker 3: I think most consumers all these days have doubts on,
- 25:16Speaker 3: you know, whether they are truly good and it's all
- 25:20Speaker 3: marketing gimmicks.
- 25:21Speaker 4: Do you have any thoughts on expanding the curve of
- 25:24Speaker 4: brand beyond beverages.
- 25:26Speaker 3: Yeah, we actually are working on a supplement right now.
- 25:29Speaker 3: So the first step is we're actually working on a
- 25:31Speaker 3: supplement to as a boosting component for our jewice cleanmer
- 25:38Speaker 3: because our jewice cleans are very different than any other
- 25:40Speaker 3: Jewics cleanser on the market, so all other Jewish claimser
- 25:43Speaker 3: got lots of criticism from the clinicians nutritionists that I
- 25:49Speaker 3: can easily list you dozens of public publications, even a
- 25:53Speaker 3: big one published last year by a group of clinicians
- 25:56Speaker 3: in Northwestern Medical School talking about don't do juice cleansing
- 26:01Speaker 3: because it will destroy you got microbiome as quick as
- 26:06Speaker 3: in within three days. That's they they did study to
- 26:09Speaker 3: to show that these people, Yeah, quite is so much
- 26:11Speaker 3: for good health. Yeah, they don't understand that because the
- 26:14Speaker 3: reason is most of the juices, uh, they make it
- 26:17Speaker 3: in order to make them taste really good. They use
- 26:20Speaker 3: lots of sugary juice concentrate.
- 26:22Speaker 5: Uh.
- 26:23Speaker 3: They may not use the hope plants weight stick with
- 26:25Speaker 3: the hope plants, so they may not have all the
- 26:28Speaker 3: good you know, for example, probiotic fibers, minerals, all those
- 26:32Speaker 3: things our body needs to build a strong digestive system.
- 26:35Speaker 3: And without a strong digestive system, I mean, you can
- 26:38Speaker 3: take any detoks or juice cleansing product but go to
- 26:42Speaker 3: the bathroom five times a day, but o't come is
- 26:46Speaker 3: not good. That's why that's why we're very different than that.
- 26:49Speaker 3: But we are adding another component to our juice cleanser
- 26:53Speaker 3: packs to kind of help people to boost their metabolize
- 26:57Speaker 3: them rate naturally and also adding more promotic fiber components.
- 27:01Speaker 3: So so you want to see that. I'll keep you posted.
- 27:04Speaker 1: And you had a bunch of stores already, right, you in.
- 27:07Speaker 3: In the usual agent, Giant, Giant Foods, Giant Company.
- 27:13Speaker 1: Some Whole Foods in the Midwest, right, Yeah, so you
- 27:16Speaker 1: still can see yourself a small brand.
- 27:19Speaker 3: Well if you compare to the you know, lot of
- 27:23Speaker 3: Pod for example. Yeah, we're still very small, right. But
- 27:27Speaker 3: on the other side, uh, I think it depends on
- 27:32Speaker 3: how you judge yourself. I always love to learn from
- 27:34Speaker 3: my peers, and the other thing is always finding new
- 27:38Speaker 3: opportunities to expand. Like now we're growing really really rapidly
- 27:42Speaker 3: in the e commerce channel. Because e commerce, I think
- 27:46Speaker 3: small brands have an advantage because again we can easily
- 27:51Speaker 3: relate our message to to our consumers.
- 27:57Speaker 4: Yeah, would you have a sell.
- 28:00Speaker 3: Yeah, my partner partner, Yeah, strategic partner.
- 28:04Speaker 5: I would.
- 28:05Speaker 3: Well, always open minded. I always say be open minded.
- 28:08Speaker 3: Right now, I'm just like trying to build everything right.
- 28:12Speaker 3: And also I always feel like a big part of
- 28:14Speaker 3: my job is to help people to understand this amazing
- 28:18Speaker 3: ancient healing wisdom. So I just had a book being
- 28:22Speaker 3: released by Amazon, just just being republished for a few days.
- 28:27Speaker 3: It's about using TCM wisdom, you know, very simple language,
- 28:31Speaker 3: not the ancient language no one can understand to understand
- 28:35Speaker 3: your body to help maintain a healthy weight because most
- 28:40Speaker 3: of the weight loss program, unfortunately, including GLP one, might
- 28:45Speaker 3: not last low. What's the name of your book is
- 28:48Speaker 3: Balanced Balance Cure, a TCM way to maintain a healthy way.
- 28:55Speaker 5: ELP one conversation is a big one right now, Like
- 28:58Speaker 5: there are a lot of people are looking at into
- 29:00Speaker 5: that for the weight loss. How do you so when
- 29:03Speaker 5: in your book, like, how are you talking people away
- 29:05Speaker 5: from those type of things because it's all normal now?
- 29:07Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, after each chapter I talk about GLP one,
- 29:12Speaker 3: have some tips for GLP one users, and I also
- 29:15Speaker 3: love I also compare the TCM traditional way of thinking
- 29:21Speaker 3: to the GLP one users. So GLP one in a
- 29:25Speaker 3: certain way, basically it's just inhibit It's almost like the
- 29:28Speaker 3: pain killer.
- 29:29Speaker 4: Right.
- 29:30Speaker 3: So if you look at how Eastern medicine trade disease
- 29:36Speaker 3: versus the modern medicine, I should not calls the medicine
- 29:39Speaker 3: the modern medicine trade disease. The fundamental difference is we
- 29:45Speaker 3: have totally different approach the medicine. Now the mainstream medicine
- 29:51Speaker 3: now is, for example, Lauren, you have a headache, easy,
- 29:55Speaker 3: I give you this pain killer. It will help you
- 29:58Speaker 3: feel better. Wasting ten minutes or certain minutes versus the
- 30:03Speaker 3: TCM way is Okay, you have a pain. I want
- 30:07Speaker 3: to understand what's the cause of that pain. So there
- 30:10Speaker 3: will be a lot of this diagnosis, not necessarily using
- 30:16Speaker 3: devices or medical tools, but it's really by observation, by touching,
- 30:21Speaker 3: by observation, by asking you lots of questions, like a
- 30:25Speaker 3: very in depth survey, and then it will try to
- 30:28Speaker 3: understand where is the blockage, where's the fundamental cost of
- 30:33Speaker 3: this pain, and what we can do to relieve you
- 30:37Speaker 3: from not suffering from this pain. Not just taking a pill.
- 30:41Speaker 3: You have to come back and take another pill. You
- 30:43Speaker 3: have to maybe take the pill four months forever. Versus
- 30:47Speaker 3: the Chinese traditional medicine. The approach is, let's help you
- 30:51Speaker 3: to remove the fundamental cost of this pain. So the
- 30:55Speaker 3: same thing with GLP one. The GOLP one drug is okay,
- 31:00Speaker 3: the problem of overweight, you know, is you're overeating, right,
- 31:05Speaker 3: So we're going to design something. It's almost like, you know,
- 31:08Speaker 3: many years ago we have this five past thirdery rights.
- 31:11Speaker 3: It's like cut off out of your stomach and make
- 31:15Speaker 3: it smaller. You can't eat more. This is basically that's
- 31:18Speaker 3: mechanical way to prevent you from eating more. This is
- 31:21Speaker 3: from the chemical is like a natural compound that was
- 31:26Speaker 3: in our body and now it just used lots of
- 31:28Speaker 3: chemical symphlisis or whatever the way to make it very
- 31:32Speaker 3: potent and lasts very long. However, that's not natural. Anything
- 31:39Speaker 3: not natural is going to destroy the natural harmony, the
- 31:43Speaker 3: balance of our body. So again it's this young balance
- 31:46Speaker 3: being destroyed.
- 31:48Speaker 4: Yeah, so you had people walk girl looking crazy.
- 31:52Speaker 2: Yeah, they cut off half the stomach and then people
- 31:54Speaker 2: it was looking like they was melting. Yes, you know,
- 31:57Speaker 2: because the skin needed to be cut off because then
- 31:58Speaker 2: then they had to go back for life.
- 32:00Speaker 3: Yes, yes, oh my gosh, my gosh. And you know,
- 32:06Speaker 3: for people who are severely O beast, you gotta find
- 32:09Speaker 3: ways of treatment. But and many times it's not about
- 32:13Speaker 3: well power. It's not about well power power. I think
- 32:16Speaker 3: the industry always playing individual consumers like, oh, it's all
- 32:20Speaker 3: because you don't want to eat healthy, you just want
- 32:23Speaker 3: to eat young. Is they made a food super thick.
- 32:28Speaker 3: That's the problem. I mean, it's super convenient and it's
- 32:32Speaker 3: super cheap. It's all those things. Yeah, who wouldn't want
- 32:36Speaker 3: to eat them? Right?
- 32:38Speaker 1: And so do you make a drug easily accessible for
- 32:41Speaker 1: people and you make it cheap, they'll go buy that
- 32:43Speaker 1: drug and a lot of food.
- 32:45Speaker 3: Of course, of course certain way, right we all know that.
- 32:49Speaker 3: But on the other hand, g l P one, I
- 32:53Speaker 3: think people have to use it. Wisely, I'm not against
- 32:56Speaker 3: if people needs to use it, but again, it's not
- 33:00Speaker 3: about using the drug. Then you can count the rest
- 33:05Speaker 3: of your health, you know, life on it. I feel
- 33:08Speaker 3: like you use it as so too, as a kickstart
- 33:11Speaker 3: to build healthy habits. Got you know, maybe start with
- 33:15Speaker 3: some low dose and then you start to change your
- 33:18Speaker 3: eating habits, you start to become more mindful when you're
- 33:21Speaker 3: eating food. Hopefully build up some healthy habits and start
- 33:26Speaker 3: trying to win yourself off from the drug. Because it
- 33:29Speaker 3: depends on whether that's covered by insurance. It's quite expensive.
- 33:33Speaker 4: Too, Yeah, it is expensive.
- 33:35Speaker 2: It started off as being for diabetes Doc Dangeline exactly,
- 33:38Speaker 2: and all the girls in LA got a hold of
- 33:41Speaker 2: it and it was like, I know.
- 33:43Speaker 3: I heard people even already healthy body weight want to
- 33:47Speaker 3: be on this drug, and it's not a drug for
- 33:50Speaker 3: people always healthy, healthy weight.
- 33:52Speaker 4: Yeah, they want to disappear.
- 33:54Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. It is basically because think about it
- 33:57Speaker 3: slows down your digestive track, natural movement, right, not even hungry,
- 34:02Speaker 3: and you don't even feel hungry because you can't digest food.
- 34:07Speaker 3: It's going to impact out a part of your body.
- 34:09Speaker 1: Yeah, the side effects in the future gonna be crazy.
- 34:11Speaker 3: You were starting to see some Yeah, because how do
- 34:14Speaker 3: they find Yeah, so it depends on where you live.
- 34:18Speaker 3: If you're in the YaST region, you can easily find us.
- 34:21Speaker 3: Otherwise you can always find us online carviv dot com.
- 34:25Speaker 3: You can find us at Amazon or my marketplace, tik
- 34:29Speaker 3: talk shops.
- 34:30Speaker 1: I don't understand why one of these beverage companies, whether
- 34:33Speaker 1: it's Co Cola, Pepsi or somebody, doesn't just say, hey,
- 34:35Speaker 1: you know what, we need to have some more healthier options,
- 34:38Speaker 1: so let's just do a strategic partnership with.
- 34:41Speaker 3: Car They should. I think, I think, I think eventuate
- 34:44Speaker 3: the the industry, well, change is already changing. It's already changing.
- 34:50Speaker 3: But you know, I think still food scientists are trained
- 34:53Speaker 3: as chemists. Just remember that food center is our train
- 34:58Speaker 3: as chemists. So not as nutrition as not as a chef. Sure,
- 35:04Speaker 3: so maybe one day that will change, that will change,
- 35:09Speaker 3: but I already see the movement found. The grounds up
- 35:14Speaker 3: is people like you and like myself, demanding better food,
- 35:22Speaker 3: real food.
- 35:23Speaker 1: Absolutely it's doctor Angela Zing, founder of Car People Beverages.
- 35:28Speaker 3: Thank you for coming, Thank you for this amazing opportunity.
- 35:32Speaker 4: And on the education, yes, I know, I learned a lie.
- 35:35Speaker 3: Can they spend days to talk about college and deficiency? Right? Yeah?
- 35:42Speaker 3: I just remember taking your college and pipe tie is fine,
- 35:44Speaker 3: but you also need the