Latest / Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood / 137. Bass Reeves - The Real Lone Ranger
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello, delicious friends, and welcome to Hooded What Now the
- 0:04Speaker 1: history podcast That's not your history class? With me your
- 0:07Speaker 1: host Katie Charlwood, history harlot and reader of books. So
- 0:14Speaker 1: I made a video and a man felt the need
- 0:16Speaker 1: to comment on it. Not that kind of video, Get
- 0:20Speaker 1: your minds out of the gutter. No, I made this
- 0:23Speaker 1: video like within the last couple of months. I'm not
- 0:27Speaker 1: entirely sure when, because time is an illusion, and it
- 0:31Speaker 1: was very serious, because it was a serious topic. And
- 0:35Speaker 1: so I brought my voice down to a lower register.
- 0:38Speaker 1: And I'm talking like this, partially because it conveys, you
- 0:42Speaker 1: know that it's a somber topic, but also because it
- 0:46Speaker 1: prevents my voice from going pitchy up and down like this.
- 0:50Speaker 1: And this absolute Cob Sheen had the audacity to proclaim
- 0:53Speaker 1: how wonderful it was to your my natural voice and
- 0:57Speaker 1: not my pufformative one. No, No, that was the performance.
- 1:04Speaker 1: I brought it down to a level which is almost uncomfortable,
- 1:09Speaker 1: just so that I could definitely provide the necessary information
- 1:13Speaker 1: in the tone that it required. Like I know, I've
- 1:17Speaker 1: got a weird voice. My accent sort of flips and
- 1:19Speaker 1: flops here and there, and you grow up with accents
- 1:23Speaker 1: around you, you kind of fall into one and the
- 1:26Speaker 1: other and it happens like to some people I sound Scottish,
- 1:30Speaker 1: to others I sound Irish. For some I sound English.
- 1:34Speaker 1: But was that one guy I thought I was Welsh
- 1:36Speaker 1: and honestly love him, thank you for that. I kind
- 1:40Speaker 1: of even remember his name. He works in a Jene
- 1:43Speaker 1: Silent Bob secret stash. Ah, but he was lovely anyway.
- 1:47Speaker 1: And every now and again people think I'm an American
- 1:49Speaker 1: putting on an accent, which is like cool, I guess wonderful.
- 1:54Speaker 1: I guess no one will be able to replicate me. Whatever. Oh,
- 1:58Speaker 1: speaking of videos, I have to tell you about my
- 2:00Speaker 1: new favorite thing, apart from the SNL sketch, the chat sketch,
- 2:03Speaker 1: which I have not laughed that heartily at an SNL
- 2:06Speaker 1: sketch since James McAvoy was an air traffic controller like
- 2:11Speaker 1: giggling and guffaws, but no, my new favorite thing is
- 2:15Speaker 1: I saw a woman on one of the apps and
- 2:18Speaker 1: she decided that she was no longer using guy or
- 2:20Speaker 1: dude as a gender neutral term and she was replacing
- 2:23Speaker 1: them with gal, girl or lady. And honestly, it's genius
- 2:29Speaker 1: because equality in it If you can use one, you
- 2:32Speaker 1: can use the other. I'm one hundred percent here for it.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Don't forget as well. I am on tour. So if
- 2:40Speaker 1: you want to see me, get your damn tickets, because
- 2:43Speaker 1: if you don't buy the tickets, you won't see me.
- 2:46Speaker 1: And that's that's just how it is. But anyway, I
- 2:49Speaker 1: know what you're thinking. You're thinking, Katie, quite your chibble
- 2:51Speaker 1: jabble in fact me, In fact you I will. But
- 2:54Speaker 1: first we've got to get our source on. Our sources
- 2:59Speaker 1: are Black Gun, Silver Star, The Life and Legend of
- 3:03Speaker 1: Frontier Marshall bass Reeves by Art T. Burton, Deputy US
- 3:11Speaker 1: Marshall bass Reeves from the US Marshall Museum, Bass Reeves
- 3:16Speaker 1: The most Feared US Deputy Marshall by David Dairy, Bad
- 3:21Speaker 1: News for Outlaws, The Remarkable Life of bass Reeves, Deputy
- 3:25Speaker 1: US Marshal by Vonda Michel Nelson. Frontier Lawman Deputy US
- 3:32Speaker 1: Marshall bass Reeves by Jim Wilson. We also have articles
- 3:37Speaker 1: from American Rifleman dot Org, Britannica dot Com, Biography dot com,
- 3:44Speaker 1: the Encyclopedia of Oklahoma History, and the National Park Service.
- 3:51Speaker 1: I use it in comfortably vote then let's begin now,
- 3:57Speaker 1: delicious friends. As some of you may know, I made
- 4:01Speaker 1: some promises to some people that I would not cause
- 4:06Speaker 1: a commotion or create any controversial content for the next
- 4:11Speaker 1: month or so, you know, until I returned from my travels,
- 4:16Speaker 1: you know, just to keep everything on the up and up.
- 4:21Speaker 1: That being said, I thought, what's a nice easy thing
- 4:25Speaker 1: for us to all learn about? Why not the inspiration
- 4:31Speaker 1: for the Lone Ranger himself. Bass Reeves was born in
- 4:35Speaker 1: Crawford County, Arkansas, in eighteen thirty eight. Now we don't
- 4:40Speaker 1: have an exact day of birth for bass Reeves because
- 4:45Speaker 1: he was born into chattel slavery. For those of you
- 4:49Speaker 1: who don't know, chattel slavery was frankly an evil institution
- 4:54Speaker 1: in which black people were treated as property and not
- 4:57Speaker 1: you know, people. And unlike other forms of forced and
- 5:01Speaker 1: unpaid labor in servitude, chattel slavery was generational. If you
- 5:08Speaker 1: were owned by a person, they also owned your children
- 5:13Speaker 1: and grandchildren and so on and so forth. And just
- 5:19Speaker 1: like his parents before him, bass Reeves was born into slavery,
- 5:23Speaker 1: and he was owned by state Legislator William Steele Reeves
- 5:29Speaker 1: now William At one point ends up leaving politics, moves
- 5:34Speaker 1: to Paris and leaves Bass Reeves and the other slaves
- 5:40Speaker 1: in the care of his son, George. And when William
- 5:44Speaker 1: finally does kick the bucket, Bass legally becomes the property
- 5:50Speaker 1: of George Reeves. Now, bearing in mind that Bass is
- 5:55Speaker 1: enslaved on a plantation, I'm not trying to suggest that
- 5:59Speaker 1: he's moving in the world, but I am going to
- 6:02Speaker 1: say that his life went from being terrible to being
- 6:07Speaker 1: slightly less terrible because when he's younger, he starts out
- 6:12Speaker 1: as like a water boy, and then he becomes a
- 6:15Speaker 1: farm hand, and then he just kind of becomes George Reeves.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Like valet is the best way I can describe it.
- 6:24Speaker 1: He's like a valet.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Now.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I did read somewhere that they called him a companion,
- 6:29Speaker 1: but that just feels like too nice a word for,
- 6:33Speaker 1: you know, the working relationship with the person who owns you.
- 6:39Speaker 1: He just feels very I don't want to say sanitized,
- 6:44Speaker 1: but it's very rose tinted glasses, like I mean, i'd
- 6:49Speaker 1: take manservant. And so Bass is doing general manservanty stuff, chores,
- 6:55Speaker 1: sort of clothes fixing stuff, you know, the usual. And
- 7:01Speaker 1: so they're living was it near Sherman in the Peter's
- 7:04Speaker 1: Colony in Grayson County in Texas. So George Roberts and
- 7:08Speaker 1: Reeves he's doing okay financially because he's farming. Well, he's
- 7:12Speaker 1: not farming. He's got a farm, and the enslaved people
- 7:16Speaker 1: are working the farm because it's easy to save money
- 7:19Speaker 1: when you don't have to pay your workforce, you know
- 7:22Speaker 1: what I mean. Anyhow, he also becomes a tax collector
- 7:27Speaker 1: and then a sheriff, and all the while he has
- 7:32Speaker 1: Bass working for him, I want to say, shadowing him
- 7:39Speaker 1: when he learns a lot from being in this environment.
- 7:42Speaker 1: And so things are going as well as they can
- 7:45Speaker 1: be until eighteen sixty one when the American Civil War
- 7:49Speaker 1: breaks out. So let's just take a moment to just
- 7:53Speaker 1: marinate in this situation for a second. Bass Reeves is
- 7:58Speaker 1: being forced to battle in the American Civil War for
- 8:05Speaker 1: the Confederacy who are pro slavery, while he himself is
- 8:11Speaker 1: an enslaved man. Just want everybody to be clear on
- 8:17Speaker 1: how incredibly awful this situation is. And so here in
- 8:22Speaker 1: the midst of war is where Bass Reeves gets his
- 8:26Speaker 1: chance at freedom. Now there's some debate as to like
- 8:30Speaker 1: what led to this. So some argue that George and
- 8:34Speaker 1: Bass got into an argument during a card game, probably poker,
- 8:38Speaker 1: and it led to fisticuffs. Now, others suggest that Bass
- 8:45Speaker 1: had heard the rumblings that his people himself were going
- 8:51Speaker 1: to be freed, and so he decided to just take
- 8:55Speaker 1: the opportunity himself while he had the chance either way,
- 9:00Speaker 1: said fuck this for a game of soldiers and got
- 9:02Speaker 1: the heck at a dodge with the help of his
- 9:05Speaker 1: new indigenous friends. Under cover of darkness, he escaped to
- 9:10Speaker 1: what was known as Indian Territory, which is now I
- 9:14Speaker 1: think Kansas and Oklahoma. I have been to one of
- 9:18Speaker 1: those states, Like, he really integrates with them. He learned
- 9:22Speaker 1: their customs and their cultures and their language. He connects
- 9:25Speaker 1: with Creek, Cherokee, Seminole. And remember he's been doing physical
- 9:31Speaker 1: labor his entire life, so he's already physically strong and
- 9:35Speaker 1: he's what twenty three twenty four At this point, they
- 9:38Speaker 1: train him to be an expert marksman. They show him
- 9:40Speaker 1: how to track in scout, and he ends up knowing
- 9:43Speaker 1: the terror tories. Was it? What is? He says? He
- 9:46Speaker 1: says that he knows it the same way a cook
- 9:49Speaker 1: knows her kitchen, Like he has all these different forms
- 9:52Speaker 1: of intelligence. He's got physical intelligence, he's got mental intelligence,
- 9:56Speaker 1: he's got memory, like a ridiculously good memory. And as
- 10:01Speaker 1: I said before, he's integrating. Now I don't want to
- 10:04Speaker 1: say assimilating because that feels very borg star treky. But
- 10:09Speaker 1: he is like connecting, he's involved, and he's also like
- 10:14Speaker 1: just becoming well known and friendly to a lot of
- 10:19Speaker 1: the Native people, helped by the fact that he is
- 10:22Speaker 1: like speaking the languages like fluently, like he's a filthy
- 10:25Speaker 1: little polyglot, which is you know, he speaks the language
- 10:30Speaker 1: is fluently, not just like a couple of phrases here
- 10:33Speaker 1: and there, Like he's not just a caadaga, maduga, chain
- 10:36Speaker 1: lacoris embdicien, haste clanderfu stug or like he's speaking full languages,
- 10:48Speaker 1: you know. And his relationship with Native people it is
- 10:52Speaker 1: so important. Now I'm gonna have to slip into some
- 10:57Speaker 1: context for a week second. So, as a result of
- 11:01Speaker 1: the Indian Removal Act of eighteen thirty, the indigenous population
- 11:06Speaker 1: were forcibly removed from their ancestral lands, whether it was
- 11:11Speaker 1: somewhere where they stayed all the time, or whether they
- 11:14Speaker 1: were nomadic doesn't matter. They were all being pushed onto
- 11:18Speaker 1: these quote unquote Indian territories, which would then be whittled
- 11:23Speaker 1: down further and further over the years until they were
- 11:26Speaker 1: forced to live in reservations. So the thing about the
- 11:29Speaker 1: Indian territory is like, so you've had the Removal Act,
- 11:32Speaker 1: They've got the territory and its borders were established like
- 11:36Speaker 1: four years later in the Non Intercourse Act, and it
- 11:40Speaker 1: covered areas in Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri, North Dakota,
- 11:47Speaker 1: South Dakota, Wyoming, and Montana. And it was governed by
- 11:52Speaker 1: this sort of linked system of tribal courts. But these
- 11:56Speaker 1: courts could only rule over memor of the five major tribes.
- 12:02Speaker 1: So we're talking Cherokee, Chocdaw, Chickasaw, Creek, and Seminole, and
- 12:07Speaker 1: I think also displaced members of other tribes. Very indigenous
- 12:13Speaker 1: people want to correct me on that, because I'm not
- 12:15Speaker 1: too up on this, feel free to just fact me.
- 12:19Speaker 1: So basically, the long and short of it is that
- 12:21Speaker 1: tribal courts are jurisdiction over Native American people who were
- 12:25Speaker 1: in the territories, but literally nobody else. So it doesn't
- 12:28Speaker 1: matter whether you were an outlaw or a formally enslaved
- 12:33Speaker 1: person escaping to freedom doesn't matter, only like federal agents
- 12:41Speaker 1: could pursue them. Right, So what this meant was, this
- 12:45Speaker 1: is where the marshals come into it. Like the marshals
- 12:49Speaker 1: would be able to enter the territory in order to
- 12:53Speaker 1: in order to like anyone but the Native American people
- 12:57Speaker 1: who were in Indian territory. So this is where the
- 13:00Speaker 1: sort of wild West really comes out of it. The
- 13:03Speaker 1: world West is interesting though, because it only lasts like
- 13:06Speaker 1: a really short period of time. But again that's neither
- 13:09Speaker 1: here nor there. But this is this is where all
- 13:12Speaker 1: of those like Western movies, they're all kind of based
- 13:15Speaker 1: on these kind of stories, you know, like True Grit.
- 13:20Speaker 1: Even the marshall has to go chase the criminals because
- 13:24Speaker 1: that's he has to go get them, because that's how
- 13:26Speaker 1: the law works. Now, see, because the Americans of the
- 13:29Speaker 1: war is happening, people aren't really out there looking for
- 13:33Speaker 1: Bass Reeves, and if they are looking for him, they're
- 13:35Speaker 1: just not doing a very good job of it. And
- 13:38Speaker 1: so he is technically on the run for like another
- 13:42Speaker 1: four years until the thirteenth Amendment of the Constitution. So
- 13:50Speaker 1: remember the emancipation proclamation happened in eighteen sixty three, so
- 13:55Speaker 1: this is two years after that. And finally bass Reeves
- 13:59Speaker 1: is a frame man. And so he finally leaves Indian Territory,
- 14:05Speaker 1: moves back to Arkansas, somewhere near Van Buren, and he
- 14:09Speaker 1: does like farming and ranching, and he's doing that for
- 14:13Speaker 1: like a decade, and then that's when his life really
- 14:20Speaker 1: takes a turn. Bass Reeves, formerly enslaved, trained by Native Americans,
- 14:31Speaker 1: now a free man, farming and ranching and Van Buren,
- 14:36Speaker 1: Arkansas or near Van Buren, Arkansas, because he's what thirty
- 14:41Speaker 1: seven years old at this point, and Federal Judge Isaac C.
- 14:45Speaker 1: Parker he's appointed to oversee the Indian Territory because over
- 14:50Speaker 1: the course of the Civil War, with everything that's going on,
- 14:54Speaker 1: it basically became a hideout for like everybody, like I said, outlaws, criminals,
- 15:02Speaker 1: like everybody was running in there, and basically they want
- 15:05Speaker 1: to start like flushing it out, and so George Parker
- 15:11Speaker 1: he hires James Fagan and like, remember this is a
- 15:15Speaker 1: period of time where you could just like deputize people,
- 15:18Speaker 1: and so he's told Marshall. Fagan is told to just
- 15:21Speaker 1: think two hundred good men and deputize them. Right, you
- 15:25Speaker 1: become a Marshall and you get to be a Marshall,
- 15:27Speaker 1: and so do you. And so anyway, bass Reeves hears
- 15:30Speaker 1: about this, and well he knows he's perfect for the
- 15:33Speaker 1: job because he knows the territory. Again like a cook
- 15:38Speaker 1: knows her kitchen. He knows everywhere, he knows the people.
- 15:42Speaker 1: He can get to places no one else can, partially
- 15:45Speaker 1: because he's lived there for several years, but also because
- 15:49Speaker 1: like he's trusted there. So he meets with Marshall Fagan,
- 15:54Speaker 1: he you know, shows mouse Martia as he shows him
- 15:57Speaker 1: like his marksmanship and all all the goods, and Marshall
- 16:02Speaker 1: Vegan is just like, yes, ten out of ten, absolutely
- 16:06Speaker 1: you are hired. And so bass Rave became an official
- 16:11Speaker 1: US Deputy Marshall. Now two hundred good men. You might
- 16:16Speaker 1: think that's a lot of men, which you know, in
- 16:21Speaker 1: normal circumstances, I would agree with you, But it is
- 16:25Speaker 1: seventy five thousand square miles ish give or take, and
- 16:30Speaker 1: and yeah, spread out amongst all that it does. It
- 16:34Speaker 1: does make sense to have that many people. And so
- 16:38Speaker 1: he is one of the first African American US Marshals.
- 16:42Speaker 1: He's not the only one. There are a few more,
- 16:44Speaker 1: but he is the most prominent, partially because well, he's
- 16:49Speaker 1: cool as fuck, but also because he's just he's got
- 16:55Speaker 1: stage presence is probably the best way to describe it. Like,
- 16:59Speaker 1: he's always well, he's got some just really like well
- 17:04Speaker 1: made suits. He's riding a white horse, which I feel
- 17:09Speaker 1: is very symbolic and is is kind of a dig
- 17:13Speaker 1: and I'm here for it, like live your best life. Start. Oh,
- 17:17Speaker 1: he's also six foot two, so he's tall. He is
- 17:22Speaker 1: the definition of tall, dark and handsome actually when you
- 17:24Speaker 1: think about it. Anyway, he's also got two Colt forty
- 17:29Speaker 1: five peacemakers, and he's always he's always looking sharp, snazzy,
- 17:36Speaker 1: sick polish shoes, like he is lah Chef's kiss. Now,
- 17:43Speaker 1: apart from the fact that he's clearly physically attractive, he's
- 17:47Speaker 1: also like really charming and funny. Now. The only thing
- 17:53Speaker 1: that he has trouble with is well and he kind
- 17:57Speaker 1: of uses it to his advantage actually, But anyway, he's illiterate.
- 18:01Speaker 1: He never learns to read or write because you know,
- 18:05Speaker 1: growing up enslaved, it wasn't really a necessity for him,
- 18:09Speaker 1: you know, wasn't really saying as a life skill, and
- 18:13Speaker 1: so he what he would do is, instead of like
- 18:16Speaker 1: reading the warrants himself, he would get someone else to
- 18:19Speaker 1: read it aloud to him, and he would just memorize
- 18:21Speaker 1: it because remember he's got this fantastic memory, and so
- 18:25Speaker 1: sometimes he would use this. This is so funny. So
- 18:29Speaker 1: he'd be like chasing an outlaw, right and he'd be like, hey,
- 18:34Speaker 1: can you read this, and they're like I'm sorry what
- 18:37Speaker 1: and next thing, you know, poop poo like down so smart.
- 18:41Speaker 1: So just I love like he's using it to his advantage,
- 18:45Speaker 1: which is just gold. Speaking of gold, whenever he apprehended
- 18:52Speaker 1: someone he would leave, he would leave a silver dollar behind,
- 18:57Speaker 1: like it's so it's so movie magic, but he did.
- 19:01Speaker 1: That was his like little calling card. And sometimes he
- 19:04Speaker 1: would even disguise himself in order to catch people. He'd
- 19:07Speaker 1: dress up as like a farm hand or a cowboy,
- 19:11Speaker 1: which is like listen, listen, cowboys named after black people,
- 19:17Speaker 1: like this this is a fact we should all know.
- 19:19Speaker 1: Like he'd be literally herding horses. But in fairness, he
- 19:24Speaker 1: was a rancher, so he knew how to do this anyway,
- 19:27Speaker 1: and so he uses to just be like, ha, ha,
- 19:29Speaker 1: caught you. Bang bang. I love that. I keep saying
- 19:32Speaker 1: bang bang as if his first port of call was
- 19:35Speaker 1: to just shoot people, and it wasn't. It was more
- 19:38Speaker 1: like a threat. And allegedly he would just like pill
- 19:44Speaker 1: his peacemakers on them and just go get down, or
- 19:49Speaker 1: I'll put you down. Movie magic, Where was this man's movie?
- 19:54Speaker 1: Where's this man's TV show? You could make a TV
- 19:57Speaker 1: show like perfect at ten. I just love the costumes.
- 20:04Speaker 1: I love that he's just always dressing up and there's
- 20:07Speaker 1: a reason for it and it is logical, but I
- 20:09Speaker 1: just love the drama. Right, So he's he's in disguise
- 20:15Speaker 1: because he's garnering a reputation. Apart from the fact that
- 20:20Speaker 1: he has a white steed, he's like very well dressed. Again,
- 20:23Speaker 1: he's just this really cool dude. And on top of that,
- 20:29Speaker 1: like he becomes like legendary, like the legendary bass Reeves
- 20:32Speaker 1: He's coming to get you because like he knows the territory,
- 20:36Speaker 1: he knows that people they're gonna tell him things he's
- 20:39Speaker 1: gonna find out. And he really gets into his role,
- 20:43Speaker 1: Like he dresses up as outlaws because he's like, I'm
- 20:45Speaker 1: on the round too, y'all. I don't know why. I
- 20:48Speaker 1: made him very Southern bell there. I don't know what
- 20:52Speaker 1: that was. I don't think he dressed up as a
- 20:55Speaker 1: Southern bell. I can't assume that he did not, but
- 21:00Speaker 1: I do not believe he did. So. At one point,
- 21:03Speaker 1: he dresses up as a beggar, Like he really he
- 21:06Speaker 1: really goes method. So he dresses up as a beggar
- 21:10Speaker 1: because like, this is not a great time for a
- 21:13Speaker 1: lot of people financially, you know, post war rarely is.
- 21:17Speaker 1: And so he tricks for like thirty miles dressed as
- 21:22Speaker 1: a beggar, and he shows up at the door of
- 21:25Speaker 1: these of these like outlaw brothers, and he's just like
- 21:30Speaker 1: he charms the mother. He's like, I'm a poor old beggar,
- 21:35Speaker 1: I'm struggling, I've got nothing. And she's like, I'm a
- 21:38Speaker 1: good Christian woman. I will let you in. And so
- 21:42Speaker 1: she brings them in, she feeds them, and he pretends
- 21:45Speaker 1: to go to sleep, and so he waits for the
- 21:48Speaker 1: brothers to fall asleep, and he gets up, he arrests
- 21:52Speaker 1: them and then marches them the thirty miles back into town.
- 22:00Speaker 1: And yeah, when the mother wakes up in the morning,
- 22:02Speaker 1: she finds a silver dollar on her son's bed and
- 22:07Speaker 1: then she is very aware of what's just happened. And
- 22:11Speaker 1: Y's the thing. He's a fairly decent lawman. Now, there
- 22:14Speaker 1: were loads of marshals who would get a warrant and'd
- 22:17Speaker 1: be like, find them dead or alive, and they're like, well,
- 22:19Speaker 1: it's easier if they're dead, and they would just like
- 22:22Speaker 1: shoot them, bring the body back, get paid, right, And like,
- 22:27Speaker 1: he's a decent lawman by any definition, because like there
- 22:31Speaker 1: were marshals at the time who would read a war
- 22:33Speaker 1: and that says like dead or alive, and they're like, well,
- 22:35Speaker 1: they're easier to transport if they're dead, and so they
- 22:38Speaker 1: would just go and like shoot them and bring the
- 22:40Speaker 1: bodies back and get paid. Whereas Bass reeves, he would
- 22:46Speaker 1: try and take them back alive if he could. And
- 22:50Speaker 1: in this situation, he could have killed everybody in that house.
- 22:54Speaker 1: He could have left no witnesses, and he could have
- 22:56Speaker 1: just brought the bodies back. But he tell the mom
- 23:00Speaker 1: was asleep and he took the boys then, which is
- 23:05Speaker 1: you know, a slightly nicer scenario. At least that way
- 23:09Speaker 1: they'd stand trial and you know there was a chance
- 23:14Speaker 1: there's a chance they wouldn't be executed. He was very
- 23:19Speaker 1: much a lawman on the side of justice, Like he
- 23:23Speaker 1: would always endeavor to bring people back alive so that
- 23:26Speaker 1: they could face trial for their crimes instead of just
- 23:30Speaker 1: you know, making them eat some bullets. And like, over
- 23:34Speaker 1: the course of his career, which lasted what thirty two years,
- 23:39Speaker 1: he only killed fourteen people. I think it's fourteen, well,
- 23:44Speaker 1: fourteen outlaws and also his cook who he shot accidentally,
- 23:50Speaker 1: but he was acquitted of that because it was very
- 23:52Speaker 1: clear it was an accident. It would just kind of
- 23:55Speaker 1: I think it was a ricochet situation. And he becomes
- 23:59Speaker 1: so well known over like all of these areas. Like
- 24:02Speaker 1: first he's in the Western District of Arkansas, and then
- 24:06Speaker 1: he's in the Eastern District of Texas and that's in Paris, Texas.
- 24:11Speaker 1: And after that he ends up serving in the Muscogee
- 24:13Speaker 1: Federal Court. Like it is a wild record when you
- 24:17Speaker 1: think that over the course of his like entire career,
- 24:20Speaker 1: like thirty two years, right, it's thirty two, Yeah, thirty
- 24:23Speaker 1: two years, he apprehends around three thousand people and only
- 24:28Speaker 1: kills like fourteen of them. And that's typically because a
- 24:32Speaker 1: shootout happens. Like what's really interesting is that like he
- 24:39Speaker 1: just he just conveniently doesn't get shot. I don't know
- 24:44Speaker 1: how to explain. He's just got this magic skill of
- 24:47Speaker 1: just deflecting bullets. Like his belt gets shot off at
- 24:52Speaker 1: one point, his hat gets shot off, but like he
- 24:56Speaker 1: never gets shot. Like he's in shootouts quite a lot,
- 25:01Speaker 1: Like if your job involves you having to carry around
- 25:06Speaker 1: two Colt peacemakers with which you have to apprehend you know,
- 25:11Speaker 1: criminals and outlaws who also have their range of guns.
- 25:17Speaker 1: Like in fairness, he didn't just have the peacemakers, he
- 25:19Speaker 1: had like wind Chester rifles and all this kind of stuff.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Because again, marksman, scout tracker, he's just he's just the coolest.
- 25:30Speaker 1: He's just the coolest. Like now this is just my interpretation,
- 25:37Speaker 1: but I'm thinking that he was just so awesome, Like
- 25:42Speaker 1: he had the RIZ and everyone was just so taken
- 25:46Speaker 1: by it that they just couldn't shoot straight. It was just,
- 25:50Speaker 1: oh no, my bullets have gone a sander. I don't
- 25:53Speaker 1: know why I'm a Southern bell. I don't know why
- 25:55Speaker 1: I've made them all Southern bells. And like he takes
- 25:58Speaker 1: on some pretty big hitters. He was in a gunfight
- 26:03Speaker 1: with a desperado named Frank Buck, who he ends up
- 26:06Speaker 1: like actually shooting and killing. So one of the fourteen,
- 26:12Speaker 1: another outlaw he managed to track and kill, was Jim
- 26:16Speaker 1: web now not to be confused with outlaw John Joshua Webb.
- 26:20Speaker 1: Now they have similar names. And that's kind of where
- 26:23Speaker 1: it ends, because like John Joshua Webb was a lawman himself.
- 26:27Speaker 1: I thinking Kansas. I'm gonna say Kansas because I'm not
- 26:31Speaker 1: entirely sure. And so he ends up shooting this fella
- 26:38Speaker 1: who allegedly owed him like a grand like he owed
- 26:43Speaker 1: him a good chunk of money, and so he ends
- 26:46Speaker 1: up shooting him and then claiming that he'd drawn his
- 26:48Speaker 1: pistol on him, but people were like super suspicious, and
- 26:51Speaker 1: then he ends up, you know, like being hunted, and
- 26:56Speaker 1: so eventually, eventually he ends up like I think, working
- 27:00Speaker 1: on a railroad or something in the end. But yeah,
- 27:04Speaker 1: Jim Webb, he was notorious, and I'm gonna say a
- 27:08Speaker 1: bit of a hot head. So Jim Webb, I'm gonna
- 27:12Speaker 1: say he becomes notorious. Right. So he's in the Chickasaw
- 27:18Speaker 1: Nation and he's the foreman of this Washington mcclush ranch.
- 27:23Speaker 1: It is massive, right, he is looking after this huge
- 27:28Speaker 1: ranch and there's like this small farm nearby owned by
- 27:33Speaker 1: a black preacher, and so he's doing like some burning
- 27:38Speaker 1: at his farm and the fire, well, it gets out
- 27:41Speaker 1: of control and it spreads onto like onto Washington mclush ranchland,
- 27:49Speaker 1: and Jim Webb. He is pissed. He goes to the
- 27:54Speaker 1: preacher and he gives out to him and like he's mad,
- 27:59Speaker 1: he's livid, he's enraged, and he's just like screaming at
- 28:04Speaker 1: this preacher and like this screaming Adam does not satiate
- 28:09Speaker 1: his rage, and then he decides to just shoot him
- 28:16Speaker 1: like dead. So he kills this black preacher. So it
- 28:19Speaker 1: feels like, would he have been so angry if the
- 28:23Speaker 1: preacher was white whom's to say allegedly was not the
- 28:28Speaker 1: most inclusive person in the world was Jim Webb. So yeah,
- 28:33Speaker 1: he ends up killing this preacher. He goes down to
- 28:37Speaker 1: the Brazos River region in Texas, kills like eleven men there,
- 28:42Speaker 1: and yeah, first time he comes across him, Bass Reeves
- 28:47Speaker 1: just like fairly simple captures him. It's all good, you know,
- 28:52Speaker 1: takes him away, but he's got a bond, right, and
- 28:56Speaker 1: so he ends up skipping out of town, and in
- 29:01Speaker 1: June eighteen eighty four, like Bass, Reeves manages to find
- 29:07Speaker 1: Jim Webb. He tracks him down. He's he's kind of
- 29:11Speaker 1: like old timey Western detective Marshal. It's fantastic, and so
- 29:18Speaker 1: he ends up chasing him, only to discover him at
- 29:23Speaker 1: the Bywater store at the foothills of the Article Mountains.
- 29:28Speaker 1: And so this time Jim Webb, he doesn't want to surrender,
- 29:32Speaker 1: He doesn't want to give in, he doesn't want to
- 29:33Speaker 1: give up, and yeah, decides to pull his gun, and
- 29:39Speaker 1: so a gunfight ensues, a proper wild West gunfight. Now
- 29:45Speaker 1: he manages to get a few shots off, but he
- 29:48Speaker 1: doesn't hit bass Raves, who completely unscathed, leaps down from
- 29:54Speaker 1: his horse, pulls out his winchester and shoots Webb. He's
- 30:00Speaker 1: like a quarter of a mile away, like he's he's
- 30:05Speaker 1: quite far. Now. You might be thinking, geez, you're talking
- 30:10Speaker 1: a you're offs a wee bit, Katie. But those witnesses,
- 30:13Speaker 1: there's witnesses to the gunfight, like the guy who owns
- 30:17Speaker 1: the store. There's like like cowboys working like they see
- 30:22Speaker 1: it happen. And so this gets reported into the news
- 30:27Speaker 1: like not only was he good with his guns because
- 30:30Speaker 1: he had like his his peacemakers is Winchester. He had
- 30:33Speaker 1: pistols like six shooters. He had rifles, and he was
- 30:37Speaker 1: also like and he could use them with like either hand.
- 30:40Speaker 1: He was like ambidexterous, like sharpshooter, you know. And on
- 30:46Speaker 1: top of that, right, he was fairly decent in hand
- 30:50Speaker 1: to hand combat, like he could just knock people down.
- 30:54Speaker 1: He was just again, he was just amazing. Okay, So
- 31:00Speaker 1: it gets better, right, So at one point he ends
- 31:03Speaker 1: up bringing in seventeen horse thieves. And that's like in
- 31:11Speaker 1: Comanche County. It's like near Fort Sill, and so seventeen
- 31:17Speaker 1: horse rustlers from Texas who thought they could sneak their
- 31:21Speaker 1: way through Indian territory. But oh no, no, bass Reeves
- 31:25Speaker 1: came for them. Bass Reeves us Marshall. He's tracking his
- 31:34Speaker 1: way through the Indian territory. He's grabbing bad guys left
- 31:38Speaker 1: and right, and he in eighteen eighty four, because yes, again,
- 31:43Speaker 1: in eighteen eighty four, he is on the hunt for
- 31:46Speaker 1: four outlaws, two white men, two black men working together.
- 31:51Speaker 1: He's got their warrants and he's on the seminole Whiskey
- 31:54Speaker 1: Trail where he is set upon by the Brunter brothers.
- 32:00Speaker 1: The Brunter brothers anyway, three brothers with a name that
- 32:05Speaker 1: is Brunter or Brinter, but I'm gonna go with Brunter
- 32:08Speaker 1: because it just it just rolls off the tongue better,
- 32:11Speaker 1: I think. So the Brinter brothers they also had warrants
- 32:15Speaker 1: out for them. They had been rustling, so like stealing horses.
- 32:21Speaker 1: They had robbed some places, and they may or may
- 32:26Speaker 1: not have been wanted for murder. And so they're on
- 32:32Speaker 1: the trail and they see him and they just go
- 32:34Speaker 1: up to him, and the Brinter brothers, who have just
- 32:38Speaker 1: like so much gumption, they just straight up ask him
- 32:41Speaker 1: if he is the legendary lawman Us Marshall bass Reeves.
- 32:47Speaker 1: And he's just like, Nope, not I And they're like, okay,
- 32:51Speaker 1: you come along with us for a bit until we
- 32:53Speaker 1: can find someone who can confirm your identity to see
- 32:56Speaker 1: if you are in fact legendary lawman Us Marshall bass Raves,
- 33:02Speaker 1: which is an interesting thing to do because you think,
- 33:04Speaker 1: being outlaws, they might just shoot him and steal his horse,
- 33:08Speaker 1: but no, they take him for a bit. Now they
- 33:12Speaker 1: do go on for a little while until they're like, no,
- 33:18Speaker 1: this is enough. They're just done with trapsing him down
- 33:21Speaker 1: the road, and so they force him to dismount at
- 33:24Speaker 1: gunpoint using what I'm going to assume him is colorful
- 33:28Speaker 1: and racist language. They decide that they're going to just
- 33:32Speaker 1: execute him on the side of the road, and they're
- 33:36Speaker 1: just like, don't get your hands near those guns because
- 33:39Speaker 1: there's three of us and we'll shit you. And he's
- 33:42Speaker 1: like remarkably chill about this entire situation. He's got his
- 33:47Speaker 1: hands out of the way, he's not near his guns,
- 33:50Speaker 1: and they're just like any last words. And he says
- 33:56Speaker 1: to them that he's got a letter from his wife,
- 34:01Speaker 1: but he's illiterate and can't read, so can they read
- 34:04Speaker 1: it to him? I forgot to tell you he had
- 34:07Speaker 1: a wife. Okay, sidebar. In the eighteen sixties, he marries
- 34:11Speaker 1: Jenny Haynes, who's also known as Nellie Jenny, and so
- 34:16Speaker 1: they end up moving to the ranch. I forgot to
- 34:21Speaker 1: tell you he had a wife. Okay, Yes, So yeah,
- 34:25Speaker 1: bass Reeves had a wife and eleven children. So he
- 34:29Speaker 1: marries Jenny Haynes, who's also known as Nellie Jenny in
- 34:34Speaker 1: the eighteen sixties. So by the time they moved to
- 34:38Speaker 1: the ranch. They've got four kids in total, and then
- 34:43Speaker 1: over the next however many years, they end up with
- 34:48Speaker 1: seven more children. So they have eleven kids in total,
- 34:53Speaker 1: and they are in descending order, Robert Reeves, Sally Reeves,
- 34:58Speaker 1: Benjamin Reeves, Newland Reeve, Edgar Reeves, Lula Reeves, Homer Reeves,
- 35:03Speaker 1: Bass Reeves Junior, Harriet Reeves, George Reeves, and Alice May Reeves.
- 35:11Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting he named one of his
- 35:13Speaker 1: kids George, after you know, the man who used to
- 35:18Speaker 1: own him, or maybe at that point he was just
- 35:21Speaker 1: over it, I guess, and was like, I like the name.
- 35:24Speaker 1: Who's to say. So anyway, he's on the side of
- 35:27Speaker 1: the road about be executed by the Bounter brothers and
- 35:31Speaker 1: he's like, let me get this letter, and they're like sure,
- 35:35Speaker 1: I guess, And so he reaches into his pocket for
- 35:40Speaker 1: this letter and he looks like he's about to cry
- 35:43Speaker 1: like shakespeareans skill, you know, And next thing you know,
- 35:46Speaker 1: Pooh pulls out a gun and he just pooh pooh
- 35:51Speaker 1: to the brothers and down they hit the ground like
- 35:53Speaker 1: a sack of spuds, and he sweeps around, grabs the
- 35:57Speaker 1: barrel of the gun, of the other brother who like
- 36:00Speaker 1: just tries to shoot, but he just like misses three times.
- 36:04Speaker 1: And then Bass just like butts him in the head
- 36:08Speaker 1: with the gun and he hits him so hard he
- 36:10Speaker 1: just like kills him. He's just down and like that
- 36:16Speaker 1: was the closest he ever came, he says to like
- 36:20Speaker 1: like being killed. And now the thing with the cook
- 36:24Speaker 1: is a weird but interesting story. So they're going through
- 36:29Speaker 1: the Chickasaw nation. He's there with his posse, he's got
- 36:33Speaker 1: some guys, and he's also got his cook, William Leech.
- 36:37Speaker 1: Now there's there's a few words being said back and forth.
- 36:42Speaker 1: It seems to be banter. Bass Raves is making fun
- 36:46Speaker 1: of William Leech's cooking. William Leech is just making fun
- 36:49Speaker 1: of Wreeves. It's just a back and forth and it
- 36:52Speaker 1: seems to be all in good fun. So content warning.
- 36:57Speaker 1: Trigger warning warning warning, So if you don't like cruelty
- 37:02Speaker 1: to animals, you're gonna want to skip forward about ten
- 37:05Speaker 1: to twelve seconds, okay, and go. So, allegedly William leached
- 37:10Speaker 1: the cook. He ends up pouring boiling grease down the
- 37:15Speaker 1: throat of a puppy that they have with them. Now
- 37:19Speaker 1: the puppy may have been basses, it may have belonged
- 37:23Speaker 1: to someone else in the camp, but allegedly this happened,
- 37:28Speaker 1: and next thing you know, a gun goes off. Okay,
- 37:35Speaker 1: now that that horrific piece of information is over, thank goodness.
- 37:41Speaker 1: So he's there one evening, they're in the Chickasaw Nation
- 37:44Speaker 1: and he's cleaning his gun. So bass Raves's cleaning his
- 37:49Speaker 1: rifle and there's still like a charge and I'm not
- 37:55Speaker 1: too up on the firearm terminology because I think they're
- 38:01Speaker 1: scary and so I don't, I know, really not my thing.
- 38:06Speaker 1: And so he's cleaning the rifle and it goes off
- 38:09Speaker 1: and boom, accidentally shoots William Leech. Now, now he does
- 38:15Speaker 1: go to trial like a couple years later, but he's
- 38:19Speaker 1: acquitted because he's indicted for murder. And then he's acquitted
- 38:22Speaker 1: because everyone's like' twas an, accident and everyone's, like, yeah,
- 38:25Speaker 1: okay because like here's the. Things he's too good of
- 38:29Speaker 1: a shot to make a. Mistake and it just feels
- 38:34Speaker 1: like for someone who's super into law and justice to
- 38:38Speaker 1: just like randomly kill a guy just feels out a
- 38:41Speaker 1: character and.
- 38:43Speaker 3: Like he also has ten witnesses who say. That you,
- 38:45Speaker 3: know he was cleaning the rifle and it went off.
- 38:47Speaker 3: Accidentally and even though he's like acquitted of like malicious,
- 38:53Speaker 3: murder the whole trial costs him so much money that
- 38:57Speaker 3: he ends up having to sell his van bo and,
- 39:00Speaker 3: home like it just completely depletes the. Savings so after
- 39:06Speaker 3: the trial he ends up just going back on the road.
- 39:09Speaker 3: Again he's out, tracking, scouting bringing, bounties bringing in. Outlaws
- 39:16Speaker 3: he is just bringing in lawbreakers all over the. Shop
- 39:20Speaker 3: he manages to capture the three guys who Killed Deputy
- 39:23Speaker 3: Marshall Joseph, lundey so you've Got Nocus, Harjo One, prince
- 39:28Speaker 3: And Bill.
- 39:29Speaker 1: Wolf and then he manages to apprehend the Outlaw. Greenleaf
- 39:34Speaker 1: well that's just Like. Elias his real name Was tosalona
- 39:38Speaker 1: and he was on the run for eighteen. Years he'd
- 39:42Speaker 1: murdered three white men and Four Native american. Men and,
- 39:49Speaker 1: yeah this was the first time anybody had caught. Him
- 39:52Speaker 1: and of course it Was Bass. Raves and then in
- 39:56Speaker 1: nineteen oh, two things get a little close to, home
- 40:00Speaker 1: and by THAT i mean they get. Home so his,
- 40:06Speaker 1: Son Benny, reeves he is charged with murdering his. Wife
- 40:10Speaker 1: so Bass reeves daughter in, law and so you, know
- 40:14Speaker 1: it's read out like who's going to go and like
- 40:16Speaker 1: take In Benny reeves and the, deputies the. Marshals nobody
- 40:21Speaker 1: wants to do. It nobody wants to go after Bass reeves's.
- 40:25Speaker 1: Son But bass Being, bass he does it. Himself he
- 40:32Speaker 1: arrests his own. Son So Benny reeves gets convicted and
- 40:38Speaker 1: he goes on to serve like twenty years At levenworth
- 40:42Speaker 1: and when he comes, out he just lives like a
- 40:45Speaker 1: very a very chill, life very law, abiding you. Know
- 40:50Speaker 1: and So Bass reeves he continues to be A us
- 40:53Speaker 1: marshall up until nineteen oh, seven not because he's like
- 40:59Speaker 1: losing his edge or anything like, that But oklahoma officially
- 41:03Speaker 1: becomes a. State and so the official line is, that you,
- 41:09Speaker 1: know The Federal office was being, downsized when really it was,
- 41:17Speaker 1: racism pure and. Simple so, effectively he was An African
- 41:23Speaker 1: american man and they didn't want him, being you, know
- 41:27Speaker 1: a federal. Marshal and, so like a lot of his,
- 41:29Speaker 1: colleagues he went out and got another. Job he's sixty
- 41:32Speaker 1: eight at this, point and he joined The Muscogee Police.
- 41:36Speaker 1: Department oh, yeah and he got married. AGAIN i keep
- 41:41Speaker 1: forgetting to mention the. Marriages so he gets married, again
- 41:45Speaker 1: but he doesn't have any like more kids as far
- 41:50Speaker 1: AS i. Know but, yes he Married Winnie sumpter in nineteen,
- 41:54Speaker 1: hundred so he's been married seven years at this, point
- 41:58Speaker 1: and he's just got another. Job. Now the story goes
- 42:03Speaker 1: that he would just like walk through Downtown muscogee and
- 42:07Speaker 1: he would have like an, assistant a, sidekick an. Accomplice,
- 42:12Speaker 1: anyway they would just have like a satchel full of
- 42:15Speaker 1: guns and there was just never any trouble when he
- 42:18Speaker 1: was on the, street WHICH i think is just so.
- 42:20Speaker 1: Funny and so after being at, war, escaping getting his,
- 42:27Speaker 1: freedom getting, married having a, ranch becoming a, deputy never
- 42:35Speaker 1: getting wounded in the line of, duty capturing about three
- 42:40Speaker 1: thousand people while covering seventy five thousand square, miles arresting
- 42:45Speaker 1: his own, son having eleven, children or his wife had eleven,
- 42:49Speaker 1: children but he helped the. Process he gets accused of,
- 42:53Speaker 1: murder goes to, trial gets acquitted while depleting his life,
- 42:56Speaker 1: savings thus leading him to have to sell his. Ranch
- 43:00Speaker 1: he goes back to working as A us. Marshall then
- 43:03Speaker 1: his first, Wife, jenny she, dies he remarries and he Marries,
- 43:07Speaker 1: Winnie oklahoma becomes a, state he loses his job as a.
- 43:12Speaker 1: Marshal he then gains new employment as A muskegee police.
- 43:17Speaker 1: Officer after a few, years he finally retires and his
- 43:22Speaker 1: health begins to, decline and on the twelfth Of january nineteen,
- 43:27Speaker 1: Ten Bass raves passes away from bright disease at the
- 43:32Speaker 1: age of seventy, one and so ends The tale of Bass,
- 43:37Speaker 1: raves the legendary lawman and real inspiration for The Lone.
- 43:43Speaker 1: Ranger it deserves much more respect. Then i'm not even
- 43:49Speaker 1: going to talk about the. Movie we're we're not going
- 43:51Speaker 1: to bring it. Up we're gonna just pretend it didn't,
- 43:53Speaker 1: happen because sometimes denial is all we. Have so, anyway
- 43:57Speaker 1: if you liked my retailing of this, tale feel free
- 44:00Speaker 1: to wait in review five. Stars if you didn't like,
- 44:03Speaker 1: it don't say, anything because, Uh Bass reeves would not
- 44:08Speaker 1: appreciate bad. Manners but, yeah so for those of you
- 44:13Speaker 1: who have been listening a long time and who know what's,
- 44:15Speaker 1: up there is a just in case, fund you, know
- 44:19Speaker 1: because the STUFF i talk about can sometimes be seen
- 44:22Speaker 1: as quote improper as it turns. Out but, yes so
- 44:28Speaker 1: rate and review follow me on the socials if you,
- 44:32Speaker 1: wanna if you want to help my just in case,
- 44:34Speaker 1: fund you, know just in, case feel free Because i'm not.
- 44:39Speaker 1: SCARED i MEAN i am. Scared i'm definitely definitely. Scared but.
- 44:44Speaker 2: We're gonna do.
- 44:44Speaker 1: This everything's gonna be. Fine everything's gonna be. Fine and
- 44:48Speaker 1: so recommendation. Time so you know. WHAT i looked it.
- 44:51Speaker 1: Up there was as was like A Bass REEVES tv.
- 44:56Speaker 1: Show but, yes some of the review are really good
- 45:00Speaker 1: and some of the reviews are really really. Bad So
- 45:03Speaker 1: i'm gonna have to watch it. Obviously so that's on
- 45:07Speaker 1: our watch. List we're gonna Watch Bass. Raves we're gonna watch.
- 45:11Speaker 1: That that's, great that's our watching. Done. Perfect for, Reading
- 45:17Speaker 1: i'm gonna recommend something completely unrelated to this week's, Episode
- 45:22Speaker 1: Queen james By Gareth. RUSSELL i just received it this.
- 45:27Speaker 1: Week it's it's. Good it's a good. Book you should
- 45:31Speaker 1: be reading this book LIKE I i'm m you know.
- 45:37Speaker 1: ME i love like a good, saucy saucy tale AND
- 45:42Speaker 1: i am into.
- 45:44Speaker 2: It.
- 45:44Speaker 1: Okay so also for, listening.
- 45:48Speaker 2: Ooh you know, What you're gonna laugh at, me but
- 45:52Speaker 2: you know, What i've been listening To i've been playing
- 45:55Speaker 2: it sort of on a loop all week because it's
- 45:57Speaker 2: one of my favorite comedy.
- 45:59Speaker 1: Songs it's The ballad Of bari And frida By Victoria.
- 46:04Speaker 1: WOOD i JUST i love it so. Much it's. HILARIOUS
- 46:09Speaker 1: i don't know if you can find it on the music,
- 46:11Speaker 1: apps but you can see it on, YouTube like watch
- 46:13Speaker 1: the original like nineteen eighty, five eighty four. Version this
- 46:18Speaker 1: is the nineteen eighties. Version it's, great it's good. Fun
- 46:21Speaker 1: and with, That i'm gonna say good, night adios au
- 46:25Speaker 1: revoir ivas them my, friends ah bye bye