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Full Show Podcast: 18 March 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
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  Speaker 1: early edition with one roof make your property search simple,
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  Speaker 1: the use talks.
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  Speaker 2: It'd be it's good onding to you and welcome to
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  Speaker 2: your Tuesday. Where it's going to rain. Talk about that
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  Speaker 2: in just a few moments time. I'm Andrew Dickens coming
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  Speaker 2: up over the next sixty minutes. ACT wants to give
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  Speaker 2: local body politics a cleanout by standing candidates in the
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  Speaker 2: elections for councils. So what's evolved and that will have
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  Speaker 2: that story for you. In five the awesome Gallipoli exhibition
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  Speaker 2: that Tipapa is set to hang around for at least
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  Speaker 2: another ten years. We're going to take you behind the
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  Speaker 2: scenes at our National Museum. And the free trade deal
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  Speaker 2: with India is closer than ever, and we'll take you
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  Speaker 2: to New Delhi just before six. We'll have correspondence from
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  Speaker 2: right around the world, including Don and DeMaio from Australia
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  Speaker 2: and correspondents from right around New Zealand. We'll have news
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  Speaker 2: as it breaks and you can have your say by sidy.
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  Speaker 2: We are a text. The text number is ninety two
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  Speaker 2: to ninety two. A small charge applies. It is seven five.
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  Speaker 1: The agenda.
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  Speaker 2: So it is Tuesday, the eighteenth of March, and the
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  Speaker 2: Kremlin has confirmed that a call between presidents Vladimir Putin
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  Speaker 2: and Donald Trump is being prepared for Tuesday local time.
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  Speaker 2: Trump says he and Putin will discuss land, power plants
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  Speaker 2: and dividing up certain assets.
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  Speaker 3: Are we speaking to your president? Buttra Tuesday. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of a lot of worksmen going over the weekend. I
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  Speaker 3: want to see I we're cann bring that war to
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  Speaker 3: an end. Maybe we can, Maybe we can, but I
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  Speaker 3: think we have a very good chance. I think we'll,
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  Speaker 3: you know, be talking about land. It's a lot of land.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot different than it was before the wars,
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  Speaker 3: you know, And we'll be talking about land, We'll be
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  Speaker 3: talking about power plants.
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  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, foreign affairs ministers from across the European Union have
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  Speaker 2: been gathering in Brussels for talks about Ukraine. EU Foreign
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  Speaker 2: policy chief Kayak Kallis says Russia does not really want peace.
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  Speaker 4: We heard from Alexander Grushko, Russia's deputy foreign minister, who
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  Speaker 4: said that a part of any sea spire Ukraine should
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  Speaker 4: remain neutral and it should never become part of the
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  Speaker 4: NATO military Alliance well. The EU's Foreign affairs chief at
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  Speaker 4: a meeting in Brussels, Kayakaalis, said it was those kind
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  Speaker 4: of conditions that show that Russia is not seriously wanting peace,
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  Speaker 4: because essentially its conditions are just lists of its overall
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  Speaker 4: war raims.
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  Speaker 2: And now an update on that horrific nightclub fire and
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  Speaker 2: Macedonia police have deertained fifteen people after the fire at
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  Speaker 2: the Pulse nightclub. At least fifty nine people were killed,
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  Speaker 2: hundreds were injured. Many of those who died were aged
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  Speaker 2: from fourteen to twenty four. There were devastating appearance gathering
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  Speaker 2: outside the local hospital as the garment.
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  Speaker 5: Of other quantity.
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  Speaker 2: Why is the mayor not here?
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  Speaker 5: Why didn't the mayor send an inspection to check up
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  Speaker 5: on this club?
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  Speaker 6: I only had one child, one only one, and they
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  Speaker 6: took it away from me.
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  Speaker 2: All good points. The Interior Minister pans Tooskovsky says that
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  Speaker 2: detainees will be questioned and says there are grounds for
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  Speaker 2: suspicion that there is bribery and corruption linked to the fire.
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  Speaker 7: Some of those have been brought in for questioning are
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  Speaker 7: former members of the government and their parties are saying
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  Speaker 7: that all they believe the government is playing politics with this.
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  Speaker 7: They're trying to pin the blame on other parties but
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  Speaker 7: not accepting their own layers of responsibility for this.
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  Speaker 2: And finally, Japan is preparing missiles that will be capable
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  Speaker 2: of hitting North Korea and China as things continue to escalate.
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  Speaker 2: It is ten minutes after five.
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  Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
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  Speaker 1: and One Room, Make Your Property Search Simple News Talks
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  Speaker 1: it be.
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  Speaker 2: I was watching the TV last night and it was
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  Speaker 2: heartbreaking to hear all the details of the Filipino worker
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  Speaker 2: who lost his life when a fleeing car smashed into
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  Speaker 2: him out of the blue. The man's name was Jessan Tumpas.
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  Speaker 2: He was a tradesman and a father of three. He'd
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  Speaker 2: been living in New Zealand for seven years. He was
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  Speaker 2: sending money home. He was hopeful that his family could
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  Speaker 2: come and join him. He seemed like a good bloke.
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  Speaker 2: He seems like the sort of fellow we would like here.
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  Speaker 2: And now that was hard enough from the start, but
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  Speaker 2: just look, just imagine spending seven years away from your
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  Speaker 2: children and your spouse in the hopes of building a
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  Speaker 2: new life. That is commitment. He died as a twenty
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  Speaker 2: two year old allegedly sped through the busiest streets of
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  Speaker 2: South Auckland on the wrong side of the road, trying
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  Speaker 2: to evade police. The driver of that car miraculously spared.
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  Speaker 2: But for me, the hardest pill to swallow was his charge.
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  Speaker 2: The charge did not seem harsh enough reckless driving causing
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  Speaker 2: death and reckless driving causing injury. To me, it was
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  Speaker 2: more than reckless. To me, it was intentional driving that
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  Speaker 2: subsequently caused death. And I'd like to see a charge
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  Speaker 2: that reflected that as soon as he made the decision
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  Speaker 2: to run, and then as soon as he made the
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  Speaker 2: decision to cross the line and drive on the other
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  Speaker 2: side of the road, allegedly, he must have known that
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  Speaker 2: the risk became extremely high of a bad outcome. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the litmus test of a murder charge is when you
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  Speaker 2: have intent? Was the harm intentional? Did you mean to
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  Speaker 2: do it? Was death a high possibility? Was it premeditated?
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  Speaker 2: To me? Drivers taking that sort of action may not
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  Speaker 2: intend to kill, but they need to know that taking
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  Speaker 2: such a step makes death a far likely outcome, including
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  Speaker 2: for yourself. They need to know that choosing to run,
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  Speaker 2: they leave the reckless driving arena and entered the most
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  Speaker 2: serious harm stakes, and so I feel there needs to
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  Speaker 2: be a harsher charge for those who think they can
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  Speaker 2: outrun the cops, like some low rent Jason state them.
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  Speaker 2: As soon as you decide to gun the motor for me,
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  Speaker 2: you're a murder territory in my book, not just reckless,
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  Speaker 2: the cound ridiculous. All right, it is twelve minutes after five.
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  Speaker 2: It rained on me yesterday. It rained on me slowly,
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  Speaker 2: It rained on me steadily. It did not rain heavily.
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  Speaker 2: It was very pleasant. I didn't even get the umbrella out,
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  Speaker 2: but boy, it was wonderful. It was like taking a
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  Speaker 2: breath of fresh air. I swear I could hear my
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  Speaker 2: garden sighing and drinking and growing. My camelia hedging, which
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  Speaker 2: has been threatening to flower for a couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 2: just magically burst into bloom yesterday because it was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: you gave me water, I'll give you flowers. And with
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  Speaker 2: rain sweeping most of the country today, there's going to
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  Speaker 2: be a lot of people thanking the gods. A drought
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  Speaker 2: has been declared in Northland, Waikato, Marlborough, Tasman Regions, Horizon
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  Speaker 2: Regions and the government has pledged financial support for farmers
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  Speaker 2: and growers. This extends the drought which was already declared
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  Speaker 2: in Taranaki last week. Farmers are already feeding out because
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  Speaker 2: of the state of the grass. Now we're in a
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  Speaker 2: La Nina phase and the summer was predicted to be
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  Speaker 2: wetter and windier. Now it was certainly windier ask a sailor,
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  Speaker 2: but it hasn't been wetter, and that wind is just
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  Speaker 2: as bad at drying out pasture. And with lar Nina
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  Speaker 2: in place for a while yet, the chances of more
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  Speaker 2: big dy higher in the next three to five years.
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  Speaker 2: Now there's a little we can do about it right
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  Speaker 2: except be prepared. But today, if it rains on, you
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  Speaker 2: celebrate and dance in it. Fourteen alf to five. So
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  Speaker 2: normally in local body politics you'll have a local body
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  Speaker 2: party which is affiliated with the national party, and by
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  Speaker 2: national party I mean a party that competes in the
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  Speaker 2: national elections, but it's an affiliation. Very rarely does a
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  Speaker 2: political party actually stand a candidate in their name in
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  Speaker 2: the local body elections. But ACT has decided that the
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  Speaker 2: scenario in our councilors is bad enough that they've got
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  Speaker 2: to do it now. So what's involved with that? Is
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  Speaker 2: it the right thing to do? Could they have just
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  Speaker 2: had an affiliate? I don't know, which is why I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to talk to Jason Walls about the whole thing. Next,
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  Speaker 2: it's Newstalk ZETB.
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  Speaker 8: News and Views.
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  Speaker 1: You Trust has done your day. It's early edition with
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your Property Search Simple,
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  Speaker 1: You Talks. It'd be.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to take through someone's like comedians and march
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  Speaker 2: your kidding. I've never seen comedians between November and July.
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  Speaker 2: It's a camellia hybrid. But it's certainly flowering on my
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  Speaker 2: hedging now. It is seventeen minutes out of five. ACT
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  Speaker 2: has announced that we'll have candidates in this year's local elections.
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  Speaker 2: David Seymour says, with the way rates are going up
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  Speaker 2: and everything, it's time to try something new. So News Talks.
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  Speaker 2: He'll be politically editor. Jason Walls is with me now.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Jason, Good morning Andrew. What do
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  Speaker 2: they want to do in local government?
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  Speaker 9: Well, essentially, they want candidates. They have looked across the
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  Speaker 9: board and said they don't like the way that rates
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  Speaker 9: have been increasing in a lot of the main centers
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  Speaker 9: across the country and they want to do something about it.
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  Speaker 9: So David Seymour is essentially doing an expression of interest
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  Speaker 9: to say, hey, if you're keen on becoming a counselor
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  Speaker 9: for and you have the sort of same values as
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  Speaker 9: the ACT Party, get on board and get in contact
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  Speaker 9: with us. And that's what Actor is looking to do.
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  Speaker 9: They're looking to bring their sort of war on what
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  Speaker 9: spending from the beehive around council tables across the country.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. Should there be some separation between
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  Speaker 2: local and national government? I mean, as Wayne Brown, he
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  Speaker 2: believes the two are quite separate. But when you've got
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  Speaker 2: a party competing in both, does it need to be
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  Speaker 2: some sort of Chinese war or one?
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  Speaker 9: Well, I mean depends how you look at it. The
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  Speaker 9: Labor Party have had local candidates for years and same
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  Speaker 9: with the Greens. National traditionally hasn't done it. But I
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  Speaker 9: think for a lot of the people, you know, people
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  Speaker 9: know what Acts stand for, they know what Labor stand for,
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  Speaker 9: but they don't really know what a local councilor stands for. Sometimes,
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  Speaker 9: So having that demarcation and saying well, I know the
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  Speaker 9: ACT Party is doing this in government, so therefore they
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  Speaker 9: will do it in the local council. Will be helpful
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  Speaker 9: for a lot of people. But then again there is
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  Speaker 9: a reason why they're separate, because government is different to
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  Speaker 9: local council.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And many of these people you say that Greens,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they're affiliated with Greens and not actually the
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  Speaker 2: Greens actually standing for instance, or labor at any of
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  Speaker 2: that in that situation. So you know, this this is
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  Speaker 2: a little bit could be seen as an overstep. For instance,
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  Speaker 2: you know the cn I always used to have national affiliation,
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  Speaker 2: but it was not national.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, but I mean when it comes to the labor
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  Speaker 9: in the Greens, that was a little bit more explicit
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  Speaker 9: than it was ever with those sort of a national
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  Speaker 9: party aligned local government movements.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And do you think that local government needs
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  Speaker 2: a shakeup?
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  Speaker 10: Oh?
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  Speaker 9: I don't think anybody who's listening would disagree with that.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, I'm down here in Wellington. My rate increases
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  Speaker 9: like four hundred five hundred percent. Obviously I'm being facetious,
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  Speaker 9: but it's still a large amount. I mean up in
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  Speaker 9: Auckland we look at I think it was six point
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  Speaker 9: eight percent for you guys with a bit of envy,
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  Speaker 9: and I think anybody looking at some of the things
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  Speaker 9: you drive down the road and you see some of
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  Speaker 9: the projects that the councils are or in fact I'm
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  Speaker 9: not working on, and they'll be thinking, well, actually, somebody
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  Speaker 9: does need to step in there and do something about
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  Speaker 9: some of this spending. So I don't think they're necessarily
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  Speaker 9: not going to be successful. However, they've said that they're
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  Speaker 9: not running for any of the mayoralty seats, so that
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  Speaker 9: sort of is you know.
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  Speaker 8: I spoke to.
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  Speaker 9: David Simol yesterday about this and he said this is
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  Speaker 9: very much a preliminary to see how it goes. So
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  Speaker 9: maybe next election they can get a few more few.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you're interested, go to their website and follow
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  Speaker 2: the development's Jason Walls. I thank you so much. And look,
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  Speaker 2: if you need evidence of busy bodies council regulatory authorities
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  Speaker 2: are holding progress back, look no further than Jimmy Kirkpatrick's
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  Speaker 2: eleven story project for kadung A Huppy Road in Auckland.
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  Speaker 2: This is an amazing building. It's built all of wood,
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  Speaker 2: it's eleven stories, it's two buildings. Actually. Commissioners though, have
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  Speaker 2: said no to its approval, citing heritage concerns, and I
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  Speaker 2: wonder if they even went for a site visit because
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  Speaker 2: it's surrounded by multi story apartment blocks. The mayor lives
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  Speaker 2: in one of those maulti story apartment blocks. Jack Tame
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  Speaker 2: used to live in one of those multi story apartment blocks.
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  Speaker 2: It's on the edge of the historical buildings which have
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  Speaker 2: already been preserved. Chris Bishop has slammed the decision, and
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  Speaker 2: I have to say he's right. I mean, kadung Ah
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  Speaker 2: Happy Road is a special road which is about to
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  Speaker 2: boom when the l train arrise. But and we therefore
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  Speaker 2: have to be careful to preserve its character. But we
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  Speaker 2: don't have to be stupid. It's five twenty. Have you
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  Speaker 2: been to the Gallipiti exhibition and to Papa? It's stunning.
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  Speaker 2: If you haven't, don't worry. It's hanging around a bit longer.
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  Speaker 2: That story is next twenty two our five.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Dickins on a billy edition with one roof, Make
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  Speaker 1: your Property search simple, youth talk.
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  Speaker 2: Zibby, big voice guy. He's everywhere now to Papa's Gallipoli
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  Speaker 2: exhibition is amazing and it's shaping up to be the
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  Speaker 2: most successful art exhibit in the country. And that's because
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  Speaker 2: it's more than just an art exhibit. It's a history exhibit.
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  Speaker 2: In twenty fifteen, Gallipoli the Scale of Our War was
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  Speaker 2: intended to be on display for four years. It was
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  Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen. It's still there. It's had four point
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  Speaker 2: eight million visits, and now the museum has decided to
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  Speaker 2: extend the exhibition stay for a third time, this time
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  Speaker 2: by ten years, or until twenty thirty two. Kate Camp
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  Speaker 2: joins me. Now Kate is a to Papa representative.
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  Speaker 9: Hell of Kate, good morning.
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  Speaker 2: It's so good.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: I mean you've obviously seen it, and we know that
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  Speaker 11: a lot of people in New Zealand have seen it
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  Speaker 11: so many many times. One of the cool things about
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  Speaker 11: Gallipoli is that people will come back. You know, if
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  Speaker 11: they've got friends and family visiting from overseas, they might.
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  Speaker 9: Bring them back again.
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  Speaker 11: Or maybe they just kind of want to come and
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  Speaker 11: pay their respects, because I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 11: see it as a bit of a pilgrimage.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the giant sculptures created by Wetter are amazing. The
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  Speaker 2: question is why not make it permanent.
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  Speaker 11: Well, everything has a shelf life, and you might think
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  Speaker 11: that something is as monumental as Gallipoli will last forever,
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  Speaker 11: but the things in there are actually quite fragile, and
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  Speaker 11: we've actually been surprised at how durable it's been. So
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  Speaker 11: you know, we think that it's a realistic time frame
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  Speaker 11: for us to be able to extend it for another
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  Speaker 11: seven years. And you know, New Zealanders didn't know about
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  Speaker 11: it before it opened, but they sure know about it now.
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  Speaker 11: But there's also all those internationals who haven't seen it.
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  Speaker 11: So probably about fifty percent of the people who come
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  Speaker 11: to the happara from overseas and that may never have
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  Speaker 11: heard of Gallipoli, but they sure come out the other
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  Speaker 11: end knowing all about it.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, sorry to be unsubtle, of course you
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  Speaker 2: charge the international tours. So this is a good money owner.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean it's so important for us to be
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  Speaker 11: able to earn revenue. You know, if your guest bill
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  Speaker 11: has gone up, you can imagine what's happened to ours
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  Speaker 11: in recent years. So it's really important for us to
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  Speaker 11: be able to end commercial revenue to supplement what we
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  Speaker 11: get from the New Zealand taxpayer. So yeah, that's obviously
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  Speaker 11: a really popular attraction to be able to keep those
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  Speaker 11: internationals coming in.
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  Speaker 2: OK. I remember the very first time I walked in
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  Speaker 2: and saw this thing with the giant sculptures and just
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  Speaker 2: the exhibitor, and I was almost moved to tea as
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  Speaker 2: it is an extraordinary thing and it's a good decision
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  Speaker 2: that it's extended, and I'd like to see it somewhere forever,
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  Speaker 2: somewhere close. And I thank you so much for your time. Today.
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  Speaker 2: It's five twenty five. This is News TALKSB, the early.
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  Speaker 2: New Talks B. It is now five twenty seven. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's a bit easy to be negative these days. Times
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  Speaker 2: are tough. Talk is cheap, and I know some people
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  Speaker 2: think I'm a little bit negative, but I like to
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  Speaker 2: manage expectations about stuff and realistically appraise things and not
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  Speaker 2: get too carried away with rhetoric. But today, today I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to praise the government and I'm going to be positive.
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  Speaker 2: The surprise announcement that free trade talks between New Zealand
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  Speaker 2: and India will start next month was to me great
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  Speaker 2: news that I was not expecting. Light PPPs. It won't
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  Speaker 2: be a game change a short term, but it's certainly
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  Speaker 2: light PPPs a step in the right direction. The welcome
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  Speaker 2: given to Christopher Luxen was quite a thing. There were
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: flags and billboards all over town that was rowdly welcome
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  Speaker 2: from folk dancers. They were happy to see us. And
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  Speaker 2: then the news that we finally will negotiate. We recently
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  Speaker 2: battled them in cricket. India loves us and they know
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  Speaker 2: we're already good friends. And look, the benefits for both
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  Speaker 2: countries are going to be large. And for too long,
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  Speaker 2: our need for dairy to be part of a comprehensive
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  Speaker 2: deal has held talks back. But India is still a
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  Speaker 2: way away from needing us in dairy. They have a huge,
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  Speaker 2: but poorly performing herd of cows. I mean they're yield
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  Speaker 2: as atrocious, but they are still self sufficient. And I
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  Speaker 2: was reading yesterday the estimates of local production are falling
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  Speaker 2: short for the Indian market in about twenty five years time.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly not tomorrow. They don't need dairy now, they will
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  Speaker 2: need dairy in the future. And I remind you about
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: the Chinese free trade deal which we sign but finally
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: got dairy included twenty years after our first agreement. So
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: this free trade thing is a long conversation and when
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: they need us, they need us, and there's a lot
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: more to India than just dairy. Space. Space is a
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: no brainer. India's already aiming for the Moon, They've already
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: been there. We have space, we have great tech. It
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: is another sector that we can benefit from India's expertise
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: to help our productivity. Our itt is atrocious and with
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: all eyes on Chinese expansion in the Indo Pacific region,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: there are many reasons for a coastal relationship. That's why
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Christph Luxen is talking right now at a defense seminar
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: in India. And if tensions were China increase, our manufacturers
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: will need India's cheap labor and on China, we need
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: to have India on our side, the same way we
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: walk the tight rope with America on Pacific security, and
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: we still have a relationship with China, So why will
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: we While we will always consider dairy as a cornerstone
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: to our competitiveness in global trade, we have often spoken
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: of the need to have some diversification in our export
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: markets and this deal offers us a chance to grow
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: and become broader based and with a bit of luck.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: In fact, I'm sure of it, dare we will join
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the ride as years.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Go by, Andrew Dickens.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: So it's a bit tough here, guess right. It's also
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: tough in Australia. Their budget forecast is bleak and that
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: comes from the government. Donald Tomato on this shortly. Here
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: are news Talks a week, The.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: News you need this morning and the in depth analysis
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your
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• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Welcome to your Tuesday. I'm Andrew Dickins. Infra ran Bridge
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Text ninety two ninety two small charge applies. Allen says
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: there's shipbuilding in India. This is true, and we need
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: some ships. You may have noticed, looking forward to that announcement,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: some people are actually tensing in and saying, what have
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: we got in common with the India? Why would we
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: trade with them? Well, ten percent of Awkan's population is Indian,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: so I think we've got an awful lot in common
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: with them. Frankly, now, I also some people still doubting
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: the fact that my community they're hedging was flowering yesterday.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Started yesterday. I've been waiting for it for a little while.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Now it is a Japanese comeleia. It has flowers in
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: early autumn and winter, and my hybrid is in fact
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: an early flowering variety. So yeah, it is flowering, don't
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: doubt my word. And that flowered yesterday because it rained.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Now you're also going to hear an awful lot from
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: All Backs coach Scott Robertson today. He's done an interview
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: and he's also done a u turn on player eligibility,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: you know the practice of only selecting players who are
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: playing in New Zealand for the All Blacks. Last November
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: he was saying that he would like to follow South
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Africa's stance on selecting foreign based players, but now he
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: sees the reasoning behind our current position and he explains
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: it in a very special episode of Rugby Direct which
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: sees Elliot Smith and Liam Napier joined by NZR CEO
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Marc Robinson and the All Blacks head coach Scott Raiser
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Robinson for an exclusive and extended interview and they update
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: us on all the big rugby issues in the state
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: of the game, including his change stance on eligibility, but
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: they also talk broadcasts and sponsorship rights, the upcoming international
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: rugby calendar, and what success looks like in twenty twenty
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: five and who's catching their eyes in super rugby. It's
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: a great listen. You can find it on News Talks,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: heb dot co dot nz, our website, you can listen
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts. It's twenty
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: two to sixisco right around the country. And Callum Procter
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: joins the from Dunedan. Hella Colm Morning, Andrew st. Patrick's
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: day yesterday and it's fair to say it went off
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: and now we're seeing that it's all blamed on out
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: of towner is Yeah, look as they do.
• 20:10
  Speaker 12: The students here mark the Irish holiday with pre dawn fireworks,
• 20:15
  Speaker 12: couch fires and burning a dead wallaby in Dunedan, so
• 20:19
  Speaker 12: just another day in North Dunedin. It's believed the animal
• 20:22
  Speaker 12: had been dead for a period of time beforehand. A
• 20:25
  Speaker 12: police on the whole generally pleased with crowds. There were
• 20:28
  Speaker 12: no arrests made, but they say the couch fires were
• 20:30
  Speaker 12: disappointing and placed unnecessary drain on emergency services. The Student
• 20:35
  Speaker 12: Association has been quick to blame visiting students from Canterbury
• 20:39
  Speaker 12: and Lincoln Universities.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: For the bad behavior.
• 20:41
  Speaker 12: They say Otago students are okay because if they get
• 20:45
  Speaker 12: caught the police and the prop and know where they live.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: How's you where they're getting rain?
• 20:50
  Speaker 12: We are, yes, unfortunate for the big cricket to double
• 20:54
  Speaker 12: head International in town today. Rain this morning, but it
• 20:56
  Speaker 12: should clear this afternoon, so hopefully we'll see some cricket
• 20:59
  Speaker 12: high today.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Fifteen good suff Of course here were joined us fro
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Christ which how the clear Good morning. There's some people
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: who want their wealthy bins to be able to be
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: locked yees.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: So these are these wheally bin latches that the All
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: Power Hole heathcit Rivert Network trialed in terms of their effectiveness.
• 21:17
  Speaker 13: Last year.
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: They put them out into sixty three households. Of those
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: bins that overturned, eighty three percent reported that the latches
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: did successfully help to keep the rubbish contained. Now, the
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: city Council is going to decide at a meeting tomorrow
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: whether to look at spending one hundred thousand dollars so
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: on twenty five thousand of these locks. The important thing
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: here is that members of the public will then be
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: able to purchase one of those locks from a library,
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: for example, for about four dollars. This initial setup cost
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: of one hundred thousand would be funded through an already
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: confirmed curbside service enhancement fund.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather? Well hard to.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: Believe after thirty degrees yesterday, We've got a rainy stant.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: Today's southwesterlies become strong and a high of twenty two.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: The porthills will love it. We're off to Wellington now,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: next talk. Good morning, Good morning. Council wants to make
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: more money out of airbnbs.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. The council is meeting today looking at
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: long term things, among them, yeah, making it more expensive
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: for locals to run airbmbs, which would also make them
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: more expensive to visit. I imagine these are short term
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: accommodation providers, as they're called. In the long term plan,
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: they would start being charged commercial instead of residential rates,
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: which would balloon their rates bills by three or four times.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: They've been crying foul. A counselor as well has told
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: us he thinks airbnbs are vital for tourists and kiwis
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: visiting from around the country as well, who want an
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: alternative to motels and hotels. Councilors will vote later today.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: All right, now, I've heard really from Jason Wallas is
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: pretty windy and Wellington.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: Spoiler Yeah, very rainy, very strong winds, especially this morning.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Gale Northeries events later giving up into the early twenties.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Never read him out. Who joins us from Walkanahellen either greetings.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: So earlier we had former Port of Walk and CEO
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Tony Gibson found guilty of a Steve DAW's death under
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the Health and Safety Act. This was very big decision
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: actually on in turn right health and safety.
• 23:14
  Speaker 13: Now he's appealing, correct now Stivador pala Amalcalazzi. He was
• 23:18
  Speaker 13: fatally crushed by a falling container. This happened in twenty twenty.
• 23:22
  Speaker 13: Gibson was ordered to pay a one hundred and thirty
• 23:25
  Speaker 13: thousand dollars fine and sixty thousand in costs. Well, now,
• 23:28
  Speaker 13: as you say, he's appealing, there are fourteen grounds of
• 23:31
  Speaker 13: the appeal and this includes for the conviction itself. Also
• 23:35
  Speaker 13: ground's questioning the severity of the sentence.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: So we'll be watching this. How's Awkin's weather?
• 23:40
  Speaker 13: Okay, Well, we've got cloud increasing, We've got a period
• 23:43
  Speaker 13: of heavy afternoon rain and then that will turn into
• 23:47
  Speaker 13: just a mattering of showers. Still warm, very warm.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Twenty six is a high good South. It is now
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: eighteen minutes to six. So the budget forecast in Australia
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: is bleak. And I know we're always comparing ourselves with
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: them and how they are the lucky country and where
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: the poor guys, etc. But you know it appears at
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: bleak times everywhere. So we'll find out just how bleak
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: that forecast is. And that's from the Federal government. In
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: just a few moments time. Don Demayo joins us and
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: before six o'clock we're off to India. Adam Pears is
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: traveling with the Prime Minister, so he's seeing some incredible
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: stuff and he'll join us just before six. Here on
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Newstalk CEB International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Feace
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: of Mind for New Zealand Business. This is coming up
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: fourteen minutes to sex. I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: So we're joined now by Donna Demayo from Australia. Hello, Donna, Hi,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: you got a budget coming up. The forecaster is bleak
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: and that's from the Federal government and it's all because
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: of Cyclone Alfred.
• 24:48
  Speaker 14: While treasure Jim Chalmers will hand down his fourth budget
• 24:51
  Speaker 14: next week, and it's now been confirmed that the era
• 24:54
  Speaker 14: of budget surpluces will officially end at that time. Now,
• 24:57
  Speaker 14: the government interestingly has been able to hand down to two
• 25:00
  Speaker 14: budget surpluses in a row, but a third one, well,
• 25:02
  Speaker 14: it's just not going to happen now. And there had
• 25:06
  Speaker 14: been some hope and it was based actually on a
• 25:08
  Speaker 14: week Aussie dollar which had increased revenues from mineral exports,
• 25:12
  Speaker 14: and that fueled this this speculation, I should say, but
• 25:17
  Speaker 14: another surplus, you know, could have been possible, but now
• 25:20
  Speaker 14: not so. Now mister Chalmer says that even though there
• 25:24
  Speaker 14: will be a deficit, it will be much much smaller
• 25:27
  Speaker 14: than what they inherited from their political opponents, and that
• 25:30
  Speaker 14: does show some progress.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, and taken Alfred he reckons, Jim Chalmers reckons, that's
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: a one point two billion dollar hole in the upcoming
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Australian federal budget. So that's a big storm. But I
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: see also that the Australian Financial Review did an order
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: to the federal government and found that it has squandered
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: a four hundred billion dollar revenue windfall since coming into
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: office in twenty twenty two. So this is going to impact.
• 25:52
  Speaker 14: Politically well noted, Yes.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: All right. Now we've got a woman who planned to
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: sell human toes urgitated by dogs at Melbourne. Tell me
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the story.
• 26:03
  Speaker 14: This is a truly revolting story, so there is a
• 26:05
  Speaker 14: warning there. But a forty eight year old woman has
• 26:08
  Speaker 14: pleaded guilty in a Melbourne court. She'd planned to sell
• 26:10
  Speaker 14: these human toes that had been regurgitated by dogs. She'd
• 26:13
  Speaker 14: been working as a ranger and an animal shelter. She
• 26:17
  Speaker 14: found the body parts of the dog's owner, who had
• 26:20
  Speaker 14: died of natural causes. Now the dogs were taken to
• 26:22
  Speaker 14: the shelter and the charge is offensive conduct involving human remains.
• 26:27
  Speaker 14: Now it's understood. She found the toes in a wheely bill.
• 26:30
  Speaker 14: She took them home. She put them in a jar
• 26:33
  Speaker 14: with formaldehyde. Now they called her that she discussed selling
• 26:36
  Speaker 14: the toes online and she thought she all she might
• 26:38
  Speaker 14: get about four hundred dollars for them. Police were tipped
• 26:41
  Speaker 14: off and she was arrested. She was a member of
• 26:44
  Speaker 14: a Facebook group that used to buy, swap and sell
• 26:47
  Speaker 14: specimens online. She did lose her job, of course. The
• 26:50
  Speaker 14: magister called it odd behavior. She could have gone to
• 26:54
  Speaker 14: jar for two years and she only got I'm going
• 26:57
  Speaker 14: to say only eighteen month correct order all rights.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: It is truly gross as well. I wonder if she's
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: got a boyfriend, or if she does have a boyfriend,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I wonder if he's a bit odd as well. And
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I thank you for your time today. It is twelve
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: to six.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: So the big news is India and the Prime Minister
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: has met with India's PM Narendra Modi in New Delhi
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: and we'll be talking with Mike Hosking shortly. Of course.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: The Prime Minister has been leading a delegation into India
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: this week and has announced free trade negotiations will begin
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: next month. And that announcement came as soon as they landed. Basically,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Tom McClay was already there. I mean he lives here
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: now basically, and this is great for lux and politically well,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: at least he was thought so. So both leaders have
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: signed memorandums of understanding and key areas like defense, education
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: and forestry. And the New Zealand Herald political reporter Adam
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Pearce has been traveling to India and has witnessed the
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: whole thing and joins you now, hello, Adam, good eye,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: how are you good? Welcome for Christopher Luxem was quite something.
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it certainly was. It's true what they say about
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: India being a bit of an assault on census when
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: you first kind of land. But no, certainly it has
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: been has been all go since really minute one. We
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: have had free trade negotiations confirmed as resuming as of
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: next month. I mean, it was really something that us
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: as reporters traveling with the Prime Minister, we were expecting
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: that as there was going to be an announcement that
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: was going to come towards the ends, you know, after
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: there'd been some talks and particularly after or at least
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: after Prime Minster Christoph Luxon had met with Prime Minister Mody.
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: So yet certainly set the tone for the trip. And
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: it's really continued with the meeting that we've had with
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: Prime Minister Mody today India time was yesterday in New
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: Zealm time, which seems to have gone gone pretty well.
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: The pair seemed to get on. They've spent quite a
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: bit of time together actually today with a couple of
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: events that ordinarily you wouldn't actually expect someone like Prime
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: Minister Modi to take part in. So you're good signs
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: for relux.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and he in fact, Christopher Luckson spoke at
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: India's premier Defense and Security conference today just a few
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: minutes ago. Really and this is the first time a
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: foreigner has been invited to address the conference. So how
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: big a deal was that?
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, not quite the first time that foreigner's addressed
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: the conference. Has been a couple of others, but it's
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: kind of it is primarily European leaders, so certainly significant
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: that we've got Christopher Luxon and the addressing, addressing a
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: crowd full of whether there's several heads of government, there,
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: a lot of foreign ministers. He actually gave a pretty
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: good speak was it was probably about twenty minutes talking
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: about New Zealand's relationship with India advertise there, how they're
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: looking to boost defense cooperation, but also how New Zealand
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: and how Christopher Luxon sees the world evolving, particular as
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: we see what's going on with the US and Donald
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: Trump's trade war, what we're seeing with China, and how
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: particularly in the Pacific moving in in area, so especially
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: with the Cook Islands, soul on the Islands, I think,
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: so really interesting to see his take on it. And
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: it's quite a forum as well, this is India's premiere
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: defense and security conference, and he held himself pretty well.
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: You know, sometimes lux And as we've seen, struggles to
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: can struggle to hit the right notes sometimes. But I
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: mean this was a big deal for him to take
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: on that role, big deal to take on that speech,
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: and I think he's managed himself pretty well.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: So going forward, what do these memorandums of understanding actually mean.
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: Oh, look, I mean you can put as much value
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: to them as you like, but they simply signal priority areas.
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: You know, so education as an obvious one, right, and
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: education has been one of the main attractions for news
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: On to attract people from India, you know, our quality
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: education facilities and you know areas like tourism, sports in particular,
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: very proud sporting relationship between the two countries. So you know,
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: it really just just does signal the way forward in
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: the priority areas.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: And rocketry obviously in defense and also their space aspirations
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: and not dairy which you can understand they don't need
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: us now but they might need us in the future.
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: Well that's the thing we've often heard from christ Re
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: Luxe in the days, you know, from from when this
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: trip started about how India's population is changing. It's becoming
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: more wealthy. There are more people entering that middle class
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: and therefore, you know, those those specific niche markets that
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: dairy can can access will become bigger, offering up opportunities. However,
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: you know the majority of the dairy industry here in
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: India small scale barming outfits and as we've known, but
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: ars negotiations have not been successful because they want to
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: protect market. So it will come.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Who knows when, Yes, exactly right. Derry came in twenty
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: years after the Chinese free trade dealer, and it will come.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: They've got three hundred million cows and in India low
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: yields two liters of cow. We're at like eight. They
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: will need us.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your Property
• 32:30
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• 32:32
  Speaker 2: You talk Sippy.
• 32:33
  Speaker 10: So you're talking to the Prime Minister Mike, I am indeed,
• 32:36
  Speaker 10: and so he as you've just been referring to as
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: met with MODI seems fairly bullish about that. So we'll
• 32:41
  Speaker 10: we'll find out what's going on there. He'll be with
• 32:42
  Speaker 10: this after seven.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Confixation with it, deary I understand it, totally, totally understand it.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, how long have we heard
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: people going, we have to diversify our export markets. We
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: have to come up with more products, so let's start
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: there and then bring dry in later. Yeah, we can
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: do all of that, but the reality is we make
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of diary, and so if we were of
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: all the stuff we've got to sell, well, we have
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of cows and a lot dairy. Funnily enough,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: we're talking to the dairy people this morning. They've got
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: a forecast. Normally, what happens, We've got very good, very
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: good year this year, ten plus dollars, and so normally
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: you have a good year, not so good a year.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: But they're forecasting for next year, possibly even better, which
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: would break a twenty five year drought. So, in other words,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: two very very solid years.
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: In a row.
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: What worries me is the break even point. I once
• 33:22
  Speaker 10: upon a time started looking at this, it was about
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: five dollars, and it's now eight dollars. It's over eight
• 33:27
  Speaker 10: and a half dollars, and so you need ten to
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  Speaker 10: be making money. So that's a lot of We always
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  Speaker 10: go ten and celebrate, but ten's rare and increasingly rare.
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  Speaker 10: You need ten and it doesn't come in at ten,
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  Speaker 10: and you need eight and a half just to break even.
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  Speaker 10: That's you know, this is why you hear farmers bitching
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  Speaker 10: and mourning all about interest rates and.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly and inflation that hits the hardest.
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  Speaker 10: Well, we'll look about it and actor into the local
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  Speaker 10: body elections, which are weird, weird called big call, big call,
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  Speaker 10: which is you know, I always thought the taxpayers union
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  Speaker 10: they have an affiliation with AGG. Then they're getting stuck
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  Speaker 10: in from the rate payers.
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  Speaker 2: You're voting for local issues on national very good point.
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  Speaker 2: That's what your pages make and I thank you, Projessor Kensey,
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  Speaker 2: I thank you. I'll be back tomorrow. I'm Andrew Dickins.
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  Speaker 2: Have a great day.
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