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College Football Show with Stugotz and Bear - Welcome to Week 4! · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: This is college football with Stugatz and the Bear.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's go time.
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  Speaker 3: T-Bob is with us. Wake up, barstool.
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  Speaker 4: And then at the time of greatest triumph, I want
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  Speaker 4: to suck from the cup of their tears. I want
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  Speaker 4: to watch their women and children writhing on the ground.
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  Speaker 4: Everything that is precious to Ole Miss, everything they pray
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  Speaker 4: for when they lay their head down at night and
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  Speaker 4: they talk to their creator, you want to take all
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  Speaker 4: of that and you want to melt it in front
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  Speaker 4: of their faces and pour it back down their throat
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  Speaker 4: and execute them.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, who cares?
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  Speaker 2: What, are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 4: If I heard somebody utter those words, I would throw
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  Speaker 4: them out the second story of the football life. I
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  Speaker 4: love you boys.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: This is the debut episode of College Football with Stu
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  Speaker 1: Gatz and the Bear. And, of course, everyone knows the
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  Speaker 1: exact right time, guys, to start a college football show
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: is week four of the college football season.
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  Speaker 2: It would have been the perfect time last year. Last
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  Speaker 2: year at this time, what, Florida State, Illinois State, LSU
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  Speaker 2: and Penn State undefeated in the top ten. And then
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  Speaker 2: the season began. All those four teams want to finish
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  Speaker 2: in unranked. A couple of them fired their head coach.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're on to something here.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and there are big games coming up this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: It's a big slate. Listen, Bear, your name is on
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  Speaker 1: the show. My name is on the show. But T-Bob's
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  Speaker 1: is not, and he is with us. He is a
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  Speaker 1: special guest, the rare special guest.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Who will join us every single episode.
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  Speaker 4: Look, guys. Hey, I'm just glad to be here. Two
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  Speaker 4: of my favorite guys on the entire planet. And, you know, Stu, again,
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  Speaker 4: while some would call it broadcasting, I'm kind of with Bear.
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  Speaker 4: We're on to something with this four-week start. Yes. We've
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  Speaker 4: got a little knowledge and data to play with. Right.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of teams nowadays too scared to go tough
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  Speaker 4: out of conference schedules. And then we look at this weekend, guys,
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  Speaker 4: and it is ranked on ranked. All the way down
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  Speaker 4: the line, it's going to be a fantastic Saturday. I
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  Speaker 4: cannot wait.
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  Speaker 2: We earned it, man. We absolutely earned it with some
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  Speaker 2: of the crap that we had to sit through. We
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  Speaker 2: loved the games. We watched them. There were a couple
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  Speaker 2: of good ones, but now it's time. Now it's going time.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to say, T-Bob, before you continue here,
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  Speaker 1: just how delightful it is for me, Taylor, and Mikey A.,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sorry to cut you off because I am
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  Speaker 1: now working here. We have two new voices. I am
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  Speaker 1: now working with a very old friend who has been
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  Speaker 1: very loyal and very good to me, the bear, and
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  Speaker 1: a new friend who has also been very loyal and
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  Speaker 1: very good to me, T-Bob. Check him out. Wake up
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  Speaker 1: Barstool every morning, FS1, 8 to 10 a.m. and wherever
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  Speaker 1: you get your podcast. With that being said, this show
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  Speaker 1: is going to sound different. I think the audience is
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  Speaker 1: tired of my voice. They're tired of Taylor's voice. They're
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  Speaker 1: tired of Mikey A's voice. And I am happy that
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  Speaker 1: T-Bob is going to kind of drive this thing with Bear.
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  Speaker 3: They love college football.
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  Speaker 1: They know backup defensive linemen at schools like Alabama.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know a.
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  Speaker 1: Single name of a single defensive lineman anywhere at any
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  Speaker 1: college in America. These guys know college football more than
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  Speaker 1: any two people I know.
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  Speaker 3: So with that being said, T-Bob, the floor is yours.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how it's done. Look, we got the bear.
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  Speaker 4: We got a bear. There's a little rhyming there. Speaking
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  Speaker 4: of rhyming, we look at Knoxville, Tennessee this weekend. We've
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  Speaker 4: got burnt orange. We've got volunteer orange. We've got presidential orange.
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  Speaker 4: That's right. The leader of the free world heading to
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  Speaker 4: Knoxville to take in America's greatest new pastime, college football.
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  Speaker 4: And bear, this is a tough one for me here
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  Speaker 4: because you look at Arch Manning. He's been elite in
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  Speaker 4: top 10 games recently, 4-1 in his last five. But
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  Speaker 4: these are kind of the situations in which Texas struggled
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  Speaker 4: last season, on the road against what appears to be
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  Speaker 4: a lesser team in conference. What are your early reads here,
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  Speaker 4: Knoxville Bear?
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  Speaker 2: Early lean is Vols plus the points. And I know
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  Speaker 2: early in the week we saw an influx of Texas bets.
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  Speaker 2: Late in the week we've seen a bunch of little buyback,
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  Speaker 2: a little sharper buddy on the Vols. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: what to do with Texas, man. Like, I know they
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  Speaker 2: beat Ohio State. I'm not sold. Look, you got to
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  Speaker 2: give them credit for winning that game. They're number one.
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  Speaker 2: Going on the road now. Tough environment. The ghosts of
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  Speaker 2: Uncle Peyton and whatever else at Neyland Stadium. This is
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  Speaker 2: one of the– I know we had Brady Quinn on
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  Speaker 2: Bear Betts the other day, and he was saying that
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  Speaker 2: this was the toughest atmosphere that he's ever played in.
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  Speaker 2: It could be a nasty, loud crowd. Would not surprise
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  Speaker 2: me at all to see Tennessee pull the other. Remember
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  Speaker 2: last year, they gave a couple games away against Georgia
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  Speaker 2: and Oklahoma. Games they had won. So this was a
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  Speaker 2: massive spot, I think, for Heupel and certainly the freshman
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  Speaker 2: quarterback phase and Brandon to potentially get a marquee win
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  Speaker 2: out of the gate. Would not surprise me if we
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  Speaker 2: see number one go down on Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: So that's Stu's bear sound. He's very excited to play
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  Speaker 4: it when me and Bear get too nerdy about our
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  Speaker 4: college football love.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Stu.
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  Speaker 4: So let's start here then. Something you are good at.
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  Speaker 4: Moving the goalposts, right? Because that's what we're all doing
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  Speaker 4: to Arch. Arch does it against Ohio State. Hey, do
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  Speaker 4: it again. Do it again in the hall of your forefathers.
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  Speaker 4: What is your message to Arch?
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  Speaker 3: Do it on the road. Here is the big question. Seriously,
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  Speaker 3: do it on the road.
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  Speaker 1: Here is the big question that me, Taylor, and Mikey
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  Speaker 1: have been thinking about basically the entire week. Peyton Manning
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  Speaker 1: went to Tennessee. His nephew was playing quarterback for Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Peyton will be at the game. Who is Peyton Manning
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  Speaker 1: rooting for?
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  Speaker 3: How about that?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, bro.
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  Speaker 2: Family comes first.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Nephew's a stretch.
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  Speaker 1: This is not a son, although everyone thinks that Arch
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  Speaker 1: is Peyton's son.
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  Speaker 3: He's not. It's his nephew.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a son, but it's also not a normal nephew, guys.
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  Speaker 4: Because the Mannings are the closest we have to American monarchy.
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  Speaker 4: And when you're a part of a monarchy, when you're
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  Speaker 4: a part of a royal family, every relation does mean
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  Speaker 4: a little more. So this is not just average Joe nephew.
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  Speaker 4: This is a royal nephew, meaning the name is on
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  Speaker 4: the line, meaning Peyton Manning. has to be cheering for
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  Speaker 4: Texas here. It would be– I mean, Cooper, I would
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  Speaker 4: never talk to my brother again if he was cheering
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  Speaker 4: for Tennessee. Fuck that.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on. Hold on. Is Cooper next in line for
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  Speaker 2: the monarchy? No, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: First, I mean, obviously the king still lives, right? Shout
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  Speaker 4: out to Poppy Archie. Yep. But, no, I mean, first
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  Speaker 4: we've got to get through Payton, then Eli. Cooper's currently
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  Speaker 4: third in line. Hell, I mean, Arch may actually jump him.
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  Speaker 4: If Arch wins on the road, just do it on
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  Speaker 4: the road. If he wins this weekend, he jumps Cooper
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  Speaker 4: in line for the Manning throne.
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  Speaker 2: He's actually moving the goalposts. We moved the goalposts into
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  Speaker 2: the Tennessee River this week.
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  Speaker 4: And Tennessee wins. I mean, absolutely, bro. I like Texas here, dude.
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  Speaker 4: Checker Neal in game. I think Arch is going to
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  Speaker 4: show everybody. You can prove everybody wrong once again. I
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  Speaker 4: think Texas goes the road. Young quarterback with Faison Brandon
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  Speaker 4: for Tennessee. It's too big of an ask this early
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  Speaker 4: in his career.
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  Speaker 2: Give me the Longhorns.
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  Speaker 1: Bear, are you suggesting that if Tennessee wins, they're going
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  Speaker 1: to carry the goalposts into a rip?
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  Speaker 3: What do you have? You have them being Vanderbilt?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they've been there before. When they finally beat
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  Speaker 2: them a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they should be. I didn't realize.
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  Speaker 1: Bear, I didn't realize that. And I got to be
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  Speaker 1: honest with you. They should be ashamed of themselves for
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  Speaker 1: doing that. Even a few years ago. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 1: a terrible job.
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  Speaker 3: You're one of the story.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, Tennessee is a story just as storied over the
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  Speaker 1: last 25 years.
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  Speaker 3: As Texas, in terms– no?
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  Speaker 4: Well, as Texas, but you're talking about carrying the goalposts
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  Speaker 4: against Alabama. That was– look, Tennessee went through dark times, guys.
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  Speaker 4: Like even in many ways darkened that of Texas. And
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  Speaker 4: they haven't achieved the heights that Texas has achieved recently.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, you spend post-Phil Fulmer basically 15 years
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  Speaker 4: wandering the wilderness. And here comes Josh Heupel with his
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  Speaker 4: adorable lisp promising to bring you back to the promised land.
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  Speaker 4: And they've been on the edge of it. They've been
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  Speaker 4: on the edge. They haven't quite got there. If they
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  Speaker 4: get it done this weekend, though, yeah, I think the
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  Speaker 4: goalposts come down.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just saying you're Tennessee. Act like you've been
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  Speaker 1: there before because you have been there before.
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  Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. That's it.
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  Speaker 4: I get it, Stu, but we live in a world
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  Speaker 4: where Michigan just rushed a field against Western Michigan. God
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  Speaker 4: is dead. Everything you held sacred is over.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor, put it on the poll. Is God dead?
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: God been dead for 2,026 years.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, look, he had a great run.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm on Texas. Boyce picks here.
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  Speaker 1: I think Bear, like, he's leading Tennessee here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not certain.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Texas here. I think Texas wins the game.
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  Speaker 1: I think Arch actually does it on the road. I
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  Speaker 1: like Texas' team. I think Texas is probably top to bottom,
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  Speaker 1: certainly in the conversation for most talented team.
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  Speaker 3: In the country.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think Texas is going to win this game,
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  Speaker 1: and I think they'll win it fairly easy on.
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  Speaker 3: The road against Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, running back.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's big.
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  Speaker 3: That's big.
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  Speaker 4: Trying to take a little pressure. All right, let's keep
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  Speaker 4: the Ranked on Rank going. And speaking of, hey, congrats,
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  Speaker 4: you did it. Do it again and again and again
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  Speaker 4: and again. Number four, Ole Miss hitting the road, heading
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  Speaker 4: to the swamp, a suddenly resurgent Florida and Trinidad Chambliss, man. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: Ole Miss right now, the only team with two ranked wins.
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  Speaker 4: They beat Louisville. They beat LSU. Now is this game.
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  Speaker 4: He's still got at Texas, home against Utah. at Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 4: He's got an egg bowl mixed in there. Like, Chambliss
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  Speaker 4: has a road in front of him, Bear, where if
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  Speaker 4: he manages to get to the playoff through this gauntlet,
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  Speaker 4: is he the best player in Ole Miss football history?
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  Speaker 2: The king of the Manning family, but yes. I think
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have to say he definitely is. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that dude is the most valuable player in college football.
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  Speaker 2: You can say best, you can say most absolutely. He
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  Speaker 2: is the most valuable player. The Louisville game, the last week,
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  Speaker 2: no matter how much time's left on the clock, you
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  Speaker 2: are always in it with that dude. And it's amazing
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  Speaker 2: to think where he was last year at this point,
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  Speaker 2: not even starting for the Rebels. But I want to
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  Speaker 2: ask you, as a player in a situation like they
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  Speaker 2: are in this week.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All of your eggs. They were in that emotional basket
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  Speaker 2: last week.
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  Speaker 3: We want to beat him.
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  Speaker 2: You get that win sky high. And now you're on
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  Speaker 2: the road, and everybody's asking me, Bear, well, why the
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  Speaker 2: hell is Ole Miss an underdog at Florida? Because the
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  Speaker 2: oddsmakers are baking it in that they know these are 19-,
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  Speaker 2: 22-year-old kids that are going to have it. They're up
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  Speaker 2: and down every week. You're not getting the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: And the adjustment on Florida from oddsmakers, even like a
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  Speaker 2: seven-point adjustment on the Gators so far, like, as a better,
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  Speaker 2: as a handicapper, the only side I can play is Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Am I crazy? We're thinking of that and that Ole
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  Speaker 2: Miss is going to be completely flat here.
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  Speaker 4: No, I mean, look, you're not, you're not crazy at all.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's tough though, because I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: like my player perspective adds much because the feeling you're
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  Speaker 4: talking about is not something tangible, right? It's not something
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  Speaker 4: where you're actively like, oh, we won that game. Now
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  Speaker 4: I'll chill here or not. You still think you're locked
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  Speaker 4: in after a big win like that. You still think
• 12:00
  Speaker 4: you're doing your process, but somewhere in your brain chemistry says,
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  Speaker 4: Just something gets a bit off. That said, speaking of intangibles,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I.
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  Speaker 3: Just love Trinidad Chambliss, dude.
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  Speaker 4: He's a gamer. He's a gamer. Look at last season,
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  Speaker 4: what he did game one against Georgia in Athens, where
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  Speaker 4: they barely lose, but he's perfect for three quarters. Look
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  Speaker 4: at what he did in the playoff. His highest graded
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  Speaker 4: game of the entire season came in the rematch against Georgia.
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  Speaker 4: I understand, Bayer, you're absolutely right. All the gambling elements,
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  Speaker 4: why Vegas has Florida favored here, but I can't quit Chambliss.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I'm suffering from Stockholm syndrome. I like Trinette here. Stu,
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  Speaker 4: name me the Florida Gator quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I will tell you this.
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  Speaker 1: Bear said earlier. These are 19, 20, 21-year-old kids. Trinidad
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  Speaker 1: Chambliss is six days older than Drake May.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting. Interesting. Yes. Interesting. Wait, wait. Did he get an
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  Speaker 4: injunction in court to be able to play a sixth year? Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, wow.
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  Speaker 4: I thought we weren't about that.
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  Speaker 3: It's like Indiana.
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  Speaker 4: Indiana gets two players back this week because they got
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  Speaker 4: their injunction. A guy who was third in TFLs in
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  Speaker 4: the country last year and another with 35 starts.
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  Speaker 2: Congrats, Indiana. Good for you. I think by the end
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: of the year, Stu Gatz is going to be the
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  Speaker 2: NIL transfer portal pay-for-play commissioner. He's going to be the
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  Speaker 2: one who motivates and dictates whether a player can come
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  Speaker 2: back or not.
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  Speaker 1: T-Bob, is it fair to say because Ole Miss beat LSU,
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  Speaker 1: you went to LSU, you were very upset about the
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  Speaker 1: outcome of that game, that you were rooting for Ole Miss,
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  Speaker 1: bad things to happen to Ole Miss for the remainder
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  Speaker 1: of the season?
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  Speaker 4: Yes? Well, it's fair to say that I'm always rooting
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  Speaker 4: for bad things to happen to Ole Miss. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: 365 days a year, but also Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 4: So this is like watching two enemies go toe-to-toe. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: I hate Florida. That said... Ole Miss is way too
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  Speaker 4: big for the Bridges right now. Yes, the fan in
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  Speaker 4: me wants Ole Miss to lose and lose badly. Because
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: guess what, Stu? Just like that, Florida is back. Yes, boy.
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  Speaker 4: Aaron Philo's their quarterback. Okay. He transfers to Georgia Tech.
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  Speaker 4: Their OC, Buster Faulkner, is the name you got to know, dude.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe the best OC in the country.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: He's the one that had Haynes King and Georgia Tech
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  Speaker 4: roll in these last few years. He brings Philo over.
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  Speaker 4: Philo's third in the SEC in passer rating. And then, Bear,
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  Speaker 4: tell them about Jaden Ball. Maybe the best running back
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  Speaker 4: in the country.
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  Speaker 2: This dude and Nate Shepard, I'd be shocked if one
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  Speaker 2: of them did not wind up winning the– The Doak
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  Speaker 2: Walker is the best running back of the country. They
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  Speaker 2: broke the bank to keep him in Florida. It was
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  Speaker 2: a priority for the Gators to give John Summerall a
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  Speaker 2: stone running back to go with Philo to get Buster.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of tools to work with. This is a
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  Speaker 2: really improved Florida team. And like you said, this is
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  Speaker 2: the classic, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's where you are with this one, my man.
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  Speaker 4: I would agree. I would agree. Also, Stu, this is
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  Speaker 4: a classic signature win opportunity for John Sumrall here immediately
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  Speaker 4: in year one of Florida.
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  Speaker 1: It'd be a very quick signature win for John Sumrall.
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  Speaker 1: I like Mississippi here, though. I just think they're the
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  Speaker 1: more talented team. I know everyone's trying the Gators three
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  Speaker 1: and a half. I thought Brady Quinn, who was on
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  Speaker 1: with us earlier this week, said something very interesting. The
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  Speaker 1: idea that Mississippi, after beating LSU, is not the favorites
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: on the road against an unproven Florida team gives them
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  Speaker 1: a chip on their shoulder. And I think the coach
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: could just easily say, hey, look, no one believes in
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  Speaker 1: us even after we beat Lane Kiffin at LSU. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that gives them an edge in this game.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's a good motivational tactic, right? You tell
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  Speaker 4: the team, like, do you want to prove them right?
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  Speaker 4: Everybody's saying like all you cared about was LSU and
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: you're going to fall flat if you're going to prove
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  Speaker 4: them right. I expect a lot of points here. Obviously,
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: both offenses look great thus far. The element that is
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: tough for me to know how it's going to go
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: that could decide the game, the thing that I missed
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: in LSU Ole Miss was Ole Miss defensive line led
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: by Will Echols just completely dominated. That's a defensive lineman,
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: by the way, Stu. Maybe DT1.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Will Echols from Marketown.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: But he dominated LSU. And it made the entire offense
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: not kind of work. Can he do the same thing
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: to a Florida O-line that has looked really good thus far?
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure. That said, it's Trinidad Chambliss.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: I like Trinidad.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Taylor, Mikey, help me out here. I feel like these
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: two guys are trying to teach me as professors. I
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm in class right now. They're trying to
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: teach me about the sport of college football.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Do you guys feel the same?
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Sit back and listen. Soak and take it all in.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I assume you're just going to copy off Taylor for
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: the test.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: I am.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: But, you know, T-Bob is telling me, he's like, hey,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: you have to remember this name. It was the Florida OC,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: and here we are four minutes later. I don't remember
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: that name, and I'm never going to remember that name,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: and I don't care about that name.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: It used to be in Georgia, and Georgia thought they
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: had it back a couple years ago. It stayed at
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Georgia Tech.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, go ahead, Taylor. Don't worry.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: I've written down everything. Aaron Filo, Buster Faulkner, Jaden Baugh.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: I'm writing down everything for Stu before he gets.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: His bets in. Was Filo the name I was supposed
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: to remember?
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: No, that's the quarterback.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: God damn it.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: No. Echols was the D-tackle, Buster Faulkner's the OC, and
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: Aaron Filos the quarterback.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: How about Bears just tell me who to take this weekend?
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's it.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I'm taking Florida.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Get those Bears out.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Go Bears.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: If you're a gambler, you take Florida, and you don't
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: think twice about it here. If maybe you like the narratives,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: I think you'd probably fall on the shambles side of
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: the equation.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: How about this for a name, Stu? Do you know
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: the name Bryce Underwood?
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: The Michigan quarterback. I only know him from that Hail
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Mary in week one. That's the only reason I know it.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: They won a game they weren't supposed to win.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Yes. Taking place. Exactly.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about a game that probably could not feature
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: more elements that Stu's going to be like, wow, look
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: at that. Number 17, Iowa. Hitting the road to head
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: to Michigan. It's a 17-18 rank-to-rank battle. It's 3-30 CBS, guys.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: We're going to get a little ba-ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. I cannot wait.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Thinking about, like, taking me back to, like, Brent on
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: the call, 1985.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: One versus two Rob Houtland, the late field goal to
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: win 12, 10 could be that type of game on
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Saturday to, uh, Iowa's offense, man. I can't get there
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: at all. Uh, with, with, with the Hawkeyes offense, just
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: really struggled against Iowa state. The only real team that
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: they played so far, uh.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: So it does nothing for you that they put up
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: 40 against Northern Illinois and 55 against Northern Iowa?
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: That is Michigan's offense. Their D played really well against Oklahoma. Now,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma's offense might be shit, too.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Who knows?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: But, yeah. I can't see Iowa mustering up a whole
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: lot of points here.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Bear, can I just say this?
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: That CBS three 30 game used to be Alabama and Auburn.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: It's Iowa, Michigan.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, okay.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Okay. But look, as even though I hail from the
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: lands of the sec, like I'll defend this as one
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: of the good three 30, big 10 games.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of weeks where we get
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: fucking like Ohio state Rutgers. Okay. Yes. There's been there.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: There's been, there's been way worse in this slot. This
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: is look, if you like, play in the trenches. You
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: like big boy, old school football. Let's run it first,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: beat the other team, grind them into the ground. That's
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: what you're going to get here. I think it's a
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: lot of, I'm glad you mentioned Oklahoma bear. Cause kind
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: of a lot of similarities to Oklahoma, Michigan in a
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: lot of ways. And, and when you compare the two,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: that's my biggest question mark. Okay. Why Oklahoma struggled, they
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: could not run the ball, meaning they had to try
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: to throw it. And bottom line, the Michigan defense is
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: too elite. The Oklahoma receivers could not separate. Iowa's receivers
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: will not be able to separate. But Bear, can Iowa
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: run the ball against this Michigan front? A way better
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: O-line at Iowa than Oklahoma. Correct.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I have such little faith. This
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: is like the classic– you look at Kyle and you
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: look at Kirk Ferentz. This is going to be like
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: fourth and three from the plus 41, and they're going
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: to punt. It's what we are. This is classic field position,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: punt the football type game. I don't think– they may
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: have some success running, but I don't think it's going
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: to be enough. But if I'm wrong, and I'm wrong
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: a hell of a lot, and they do have success
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: and they go in there and get a win– Like,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: you look at Michigan's upcoming schedule. They go to Minnesota
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: next week. They got Penn State and Indiana. They could
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: be sitting three and four before they head to the
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: banks of the Raritan and the State University of New Jersey. Like,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: it's a big game for Michigan because the narrative and
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the momentum that they have from beating Oklahoma and that
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: comeback could really be flipped pretty quickly if they drop
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: one at home on tomorrow.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: It's funny, Barry. You mentioned Michigan. I think this is
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: sort of a– a bit of a playoff trampoline for Iowa.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: I can't get over how their schedule breaks. They're at
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Michigan versus Ohio State at Washington. All brutal. No doubt.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: But then it's Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois, Nebraska. They'll
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: be favored in every single one of those games. If
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: they go 2-1, which would have to start with beating
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Michigan because I don't think they're going to get Ohio State.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: If they go 2-1 here, they could drop a game
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: down the stretch. They'll end 10-2. Stu, we could be
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: talking about Kirk Ferentz in the playoffs. It's something that
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I just never thought we would get to, but it
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: starts Saturday in the big house. Mikey, why are you
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: shaking your head?
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Well, because he knows the playoffs is electric. Yeah, he knows.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: No, we don't want that.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't want that, and we don't want to
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: be talking about it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: You are crazy.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: This is the type of team that all you people
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: out there that want to expand the playoffs to 24,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: this is what we're talking about. Like last year, we
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: would have been talking about Arizona and Georgia Tech and
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Virginia being in the playoffs.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I thought four was good, but yeah, I get it.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Too few. 12 feels right. 16 is like a little
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: bit of a stretch. But 24 is just a participation.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Also, to defend Kirk Ferentz in the playoff, okay. Kirk
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Ferentz in the playoff is a delicious cigarette with a
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: domestic light beer on a Saturday night, okay? It's old school.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: It's Americana, okay? You all out there with your nicotine
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: pouches and your newfangled vapes, all you high schoolers sitting
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: there blowing clouds inside because you can smoke inside because
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: it doesn't smell somehow good. Kirk Ferentz is a classic
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Saturday night heater, so I don't want to hear any
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: disrespect on Kirk in the playoffs.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Get out of here.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Yes, hell yes, Bear. That's what I'm talking about.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: T-Bob, I'm having the same reserves, though, as Stu got
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: to Mikey, where... The eye test. Close your eyes and
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: picture Kirk Ferentz in the playoffs?
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: I can't see it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: I can't see it because I don't want.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: To see it.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: It's awesome. Listen, you close your eyes watching.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: You couldn't see Carl Anthony Towns hoisting up the Larry
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: O'Brien trophy.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was 0 for 1.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: As a new fan.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I don't even want to close my eyes and think
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: about it. That's how terrified I am of Kirk Ferentz
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: in Iowa. In fact, I'll make the commitment on behalf
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: of me, Taylor, and Mikey A., If Iowa makes the playoffs,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I will not watch Iowa's game.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: How about that? I don't want anything to do with it.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: Don't want me in that group because I'm going to
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: watch that game.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I will too.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: To be fair, though, I'm going Michigan here. If it
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: was in Iowa, I'd choose Iowa. But Hank Brown, Iowa's quarterback,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: he's got a little moxie to him. I think it's
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: just too big of an ask. To go on the
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: road against this Michigan defense, against a Kyle Whittingham team
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: that I'm kind of banking on ascending and getting better
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: each week.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: They escaped early.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Give me the Wolverines in a tight one here.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Bear? I like Michigan. I like the Michigan wins. Because, like,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I always kind of joke around all the time. All those, like,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: dogs with fleas. It feels like Iowa is a bit
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: of a dog with fleas. A lot of people attracted
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: to Iowa, and that number has come down a little bit.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I think we might be able to get a little
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: bit of a discount on the Wolverines.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: All right. Let's head to my favorite game. I might
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: be too close to the case, Stu, if you were
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: the police chief. You might have to call me in.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Give me your gun and badge. You're off this one.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: It's Texas A & M. Against LSU, 23 versus number 10. Right. Interesting.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: A & M loses to Kentucky. They plummet. LSU loses
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: to Ole Miss. They don't really fall that much. Make
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: no mistake. This is a battle for playoff survival. It's
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: functionally an elimination game. And it's a couple of quarterbacks
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: that have been pretty woefully disappointing thus far, I would say,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: Bear and Sam Leavitt and Marcel Reed.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: No, they haven't. And A & M is a team
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: that I was under on their season win total. I
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: was actually under on LSU season when told I probably
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: shouldn't tell you that anyway.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Piece of shit.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: A & M, they lost everything up front on both
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: sides of the ball, and it looks it. Marcel Reed
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: is struggling throwing the ball downfield. He's got injuries now
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: at wide receiver to deal with. Like, how– If A &
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: M goes in there and wins and beats LSU for
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: the third straight year after nearly hanging a 50-burger up
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: there at Tiger Stadium last year, like how ugly is
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: it going to get down there?
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Marcel can't read a defense. I mean, that's the problem. Well,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: he can.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Listen, I want to ask you a question, T-Bob. I'm
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: serious about this. If Lane Kiffin were to lose this
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: game to a desperate– both teams are desperate. I do
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: like this about the regular season. Now you have these
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: de facto playoff games kind of early on.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: In the season.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: But if Lane Kiffin loses this game at home, they're
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: accepting that LSU lost.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: To Mississippi at Mississippi. It was a good game. It
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: was a tough game. They lose.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: They follow that up with a loss at home to
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Texas A & M. What is going to be the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: reaction from the fans towards Lane Kiffin?
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Well, it's a disaster both locally and nationally, right? Because nationally,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: the narrative has become post-Ole Miss. Everybody looking at Lane
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Kiffin's big game record and saying, oh, well, you know,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: can he win the big game? I personally don't put
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: much stock into that. I think it's a bit contextual about, like,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: where he's been, the team he's been bringing into those
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: games versus the one he's been facing. I can explain
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: away all that. But if he loses this weekend, where
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: you appear to have the better team on paper, and
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: you're not at a disadvantage, and you're at home, and
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Marcel Reeds looks so bad, yeah, it's a disaster nationally
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: because everybody's going to say, told you so, can't win
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: the big game. And locally, you're like, well, what did
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: we do this all for? I mean, LSU's come out
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: and said that they're going to, I think, report like
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: a $ 26 million deficit in athletics this year because they
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: spent $ 100 million changing over the coaching staff to put
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: $ 45 million into the roster. We live in a day
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: and age where Kurt Cignetti showed up in Indiana and
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: won immediately. The patience that coaches used to be afforded,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: that's a relic of the past. So make no mistake, Stu,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: I'm doing it. This is the first must win of
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: the Lane Kiffin era. It's a must win, guys. It's
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: a must win.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Here early on.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: And I don't think it's that for Elko. Don't get
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: me wrong. A & M will be frustrated to all hell.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: They'll be super angry. Last year could not have ended
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: worse for how well it went. Yeah, they make the playoff,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: but it comes to the context of losing to Texas,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: losing the playoff immediately. Just an uber bad finish to
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: the season there. It'll be bad, but not nearly as
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: bad as it would be for LSU here.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Agreed, yes.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Bear, you love LSU here. To cover the big number,
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: was it nine and a half?
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Up to nine and a half.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I gave it out at eight and a half on
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: my show. Since then, we've seen movement. I hate laying
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: the bigger number, but all the reasons that T-Bob just mentioned,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: it's one of those circle the wagons, use a poor pun.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: play on words there yes i just think he was
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: better i don't trust the a & m offense right
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: now to do much that was a very deceiving final
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago against arizona state as well
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: they very easily could have that game uh in addition
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: to getting upset it's a big favorite by kentucky last
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: week yeah i don't i think this is a uh
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: a game where lane kind of show. Sky's not falling
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: just yet. We still got a good team, but Levin
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: has got to be better than what he's been, that's
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I don't like doing the show with you guys because
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I liked Texas A & M before we got started,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and now I'm questioning everything.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: And so now I don't know what to do.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Because when Bear tells me to take something, I take something.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: The problem with A & M is all of, you know,
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: sometimes you have preseason questions about a program and they
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: immediately answer them. You're like, okay, well, we were wrong
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: to worry. Right. All the questions about A & M,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: like Bear alluded to, were, They replaced both. I mean,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I think all five offensive linemen went to the NFL.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Like all five across the board, right? They lose their
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: entire D-line. And then you look at Marcel Reed's play
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: at the end of the year. Teams are rushing three,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: rushing four, dropping his own coverage, rushing disciplined and saying, Marcel,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: you have to beat us attacking downfield with your arm.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: He could not do it. You would have hoped that
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: he would have proven the offseason. He did not. The
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: lines are worse. So all the preseason fears are coming
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: to fruition for A & M right now. I like
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: the Tigers. I can't touch the spread just because, like,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: I have too much PTSD in this game. But for
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: my mental sanity and my family's safety, I hope that
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: LSU gets it done Saturday night.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: We'll see.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: All right, next game on the list. Let's stick on
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: the ranked. Unranked, guys.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: What do we got?
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Let's head back to... The Pac-12, but now it's actually
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: the Big Ten. Classic battle here. Number 20 Oregon heading
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: to the Coliseum, taking on USC. Bear, huge opportunity for, oh,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: my God, Lincoln Riley to finally get his first signature win. Yes.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: But also a desperate opportunity for Dan Lanning to kind
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: of stabilize here.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Sounds like Stu wants to jump in here. He's, like,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: getting excited over here.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Well, no, for me, this is a battle of two
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: of the most overrated coaches in the country. I am
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: tired of Dan Lanning. I am tired of him losing
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: games he's supposed to win.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: I am tired of everyone.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: You have a quarterback like that. You should win every game.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I am tired of Lincoln Riley. I am tired of
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: everyone telling me what a great coach Lincoln Riley, who's
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: never been to a playoff by the way, but everyone
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: telling me what a great coach Lincoln Riley is. I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: have neither of these teams making it to the playoffs.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: And if neither of them make it and Iowa makes it, God,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: are we in.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: For a bad playoff? This is lousy.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Now we have reason to root for USC-Iowa first-round college
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: football playoff. Maybe we can do a remote pod from there.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Listen, I know you're friends with Lanning. I'm not friends
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: with any of these coaches, okay? I'm just asking you,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: who is the more overrated coach? Is it Dan Lanning
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: or is it Lincoln Riley?
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: How about that?
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't even think it's close that it's Lincoln Riley. Right.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Five and 15 in his last 20 against ranked teams.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: You don't think that's good.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, it's, it's crazy. I think, I think Stu,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: I think what you're giving voice to is a real
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: thought amongst the kind of college football fan public, but
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: I think it's super unfair to Dan Lanning. I mean,
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Dan Lane, if you look at his time at Oregon.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: He won the Big Ten a couple years ago. He
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: was number one in going into the college football playoff,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: and they happened to freaking draw Ohio State, who was
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the most talented team in the country.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: So undefeated, won the Big Ten like Bear talked about.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Last year, they won a playoff game, so there's improvement there.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Before this Oklahoma State game, the last three years, they
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: were 37-0 against teams that didn't play for the national championship. So, like,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: the landing big game thing is way off base. What's
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: maybe not off base– is the only question with Oregon
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: was they lost their D.C. Lapoi to Cal, and then
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: they lost Will Stein to Kentucky. And both Cal, but
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: especially Kentucky, look much, much better now. And Oregon's offense, Bear,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: looks completely lost. The most disappointing position group in the
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: country right now is either the Oregon D-line or O-line.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, is there hope for you for Dante Moore
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: this season, given that so much of this feels almost
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: like an NFL Ben Johnson leaves Dan Campbell situation? With
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Will Stein taking off and the offense just falling flat
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: on their face.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Got that feeling. Maybe last week was Portland State and
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: it was what it was. But there's certainly a feeling
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: that that offense was a little bit different last week
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: and maybe they turn a quarter this week. I don't know.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I have concerns about Oregon going on the road. They
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: just defensively, they look like they have problems, especially in
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: the secondary and the safety positions with Keenum in them.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: being gone now. I know we're talking about Oregon and Atlanta.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I think this is an absolute must, gotta have win
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: for Lincoln Riley and SC. I don't want to hear
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: about it anymore. Year five, this is the year, playoff,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: watch out for SC, the way they're recruiting.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Win this game.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: If you don't win, I don't want to hear about
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: you ever again. Because it's a situation where You've got
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: a downtrodden Oregon team in the Coliseum. You're a slight
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: home underdog. You've got a quarterback in Jada Maiava who's
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: going to be drafted to the next level. You've got
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: all this young talent. Win the game.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Go out and win the game.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that. Young talent is the element of
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: this that kind of throws me for a loop. Because
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: you're right, Jada Maiava's been awesome. He's been way better
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: than Dante Moore this season. He was great last year. Right.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: But USC had all the skilled positions, Stu. Stu, how
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: do you feel about hard-bodied 18-year-olds?
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Why are you butting me? Careful. Careful with your answer.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: It's a quake because that's in play here, USC.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, I would be very careful with my answer.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Is it a bit harsh for Bear to say if
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley doesn't win this game, he never wants to
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: hear about him again for the remainder of time?
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: No.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: No, that's fair.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, it's fair to bear's point. It's been
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: five years, guys. There's no signature win. We talked about
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: John Summerall, maybe catching his first signature win here. Half
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: a season in. Yeah. Like Lincoln's been there at a
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: certain point. They have to show up. I just don't
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: know when you're talking hard bodied, 18 year olds, when
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: you're starting freshman at important positions, that comes with a
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: level of volatility. Yeah. That is tough to predict. Yes.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Cause if they like get confidence early in a game,
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: They can way exceed expectation. Right. The opposite is true.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Charlie, I'm a title for the first episode, by the way.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: You want that to be the title? Yes. Mikey is
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: shaking you off. He thinks it's a terrible idea.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: We want people to download the show to start, maybe
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: like eight episodes in when we have an audience.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Then we can name it that.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know, dude.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I do have both these teams and coaches making it
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: to the playoffs, Lanning and the USC coach.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: What's his name?
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Lincoln Riley.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are the experts. I'm not.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Bear said he never wanted to hear his name again.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: They're just going to have to purchase tickets the way
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: you and I would go.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: To the playoffs, okay?
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think either of them are making it.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: I don't. Either team.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Also, Mikey, I don't want to tell you to do
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: your job, but, like, if you look at Internet traffic,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: I think hard-pottied 18-year-olds play pretty well. I'm just saying.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: We're just looking for downloads.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Dangerous game.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: We have corporate sponsors.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Next game on the list.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Mike.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: That's game on the list here. Another theme that we're
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: seeing this week, a desperate team, everything on the line
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: due to an early loss, Oklahoma heading to Athens against Georgia.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Georgia's look perfect. They haven't played anyone. Oklahoma has been anything, but,
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: but they gotta have it.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Bear.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: I'm, I kind of think Georgia rolls here, dude.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I like, I don't think Oklahoma's very
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: good at all, certainly on the offensive side of the ball,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: but I think defensively, they've still got a lot of
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: pride in the Venables defense. Somehow, I hear Stone is
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: supposedly going to play, which it sounded like he was
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: going to be gone for a while. I think that defense,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I talked about off the top how last year at
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: this time, we didn't know anything with all those teams
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: in the top 10 ultimately falling out. Like, We just
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: don't know. Georgia, we think, is really good. We think
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: is really talented. I think they could be the most
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: talented team in the country. But they played nobody. They
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: played an FCS team. They played Western Kentucky and the
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: worst team in the SEC. This is going to be
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: a big challenge, I think, defensively, offensively for them tomorrow
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: night going against OU. Would not surprise me at all
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: to see OU kind of hang around here.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: I think OU... hangs around early, but I think Georgia
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: overwhelms late.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: So you're right.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: They haven't played anybody, but they have been perfect in
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: not playing anybody, right? And I feel you, if it
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: was almost any other program, I mean, Oklahoma's defense, as
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: you said, they're the wild card in this game, okay?
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: They're first in the country in terms of pressure rate,
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: nearly 50% of dropbacks. They're speeding up the quarterback. They're
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: 10th in yards per play. They're 5th and 3rd downs.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: So Oklahoma's defense remains elite. However, it's the Kirby smart factor.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: If we're using past events as an indicator of what's
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: going to happen in the future, Kirby's teams are nothing
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: if not consistent. They're so disciplined. They're so solid. And
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: I just can't see a world. Like sometimes you can
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: boil college football down to quarterback on quarterback. Really, maybe
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: even all of football sometimes. John Mateer, Gunnar Stockton. Mateer,
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: the picture of inconsistency. Stockton, the complete opposite. I can't
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: get there with OU.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Did you see that meme a couple of weeks ago
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: on Twitter about Mateer? I think it was after the
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Michigan game. It was like building the worst quarterback and
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: it was like pointing out all of these Mateer. That
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: was unbelievable for a guy who came in so ballyhooed
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: last year as a transfer portal guy.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Stu, did you see Mateer after the game on how
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: he found one of the touchdowns? last week in their 14,
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: seven win over New Mexico.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just finding out who material is, but anyway,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: tell me about it.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Uh, he, he legit in his postgame interview at a
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: time when Oklahoma fans sanity is in a very precarious spot, right?
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: They asked him how he spotted this long touchdown. And
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: he said that, uh, He said the crowd let him know. Like,
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: I guess the safety drove down on a play action,
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: and he literally said, I didn't see it. I heard
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: the crowd cheering, and I looked up, and I was like, oh, shit,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: there it is. And he threw the ball. Like, brother.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: That ain't going to get it done against the Georgia
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Bulldogs in Athens.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I know Bear has to run here, and I love
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: you guys. But I do want to talk about what
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I believe to be the biggest college football story of
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the week. You guys love ball, man. You really do.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think you guys love anything more in your
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: lives than college football.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: No.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: And I'm including your family, T-Bob. Well, you. Well, thank you.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: But how do you guys feel?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Was it Bear Bachmeier, the quarterback from BYU, Taylor?
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. How do you feel about eating dinner with your
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: family naked? What do you guys think?
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. So the context here is RG3 on the
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: broadcast last week, just going into like a classic Uncle
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: Vern anecdote, you know, the things that we all love.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: You give a little character. He just starts talking about
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: how he claims they show Bear Bachmeier's mom in the stands,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: and they claim– that his family, sometimes at family dinner,
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: just gets naked. Like, RGT provides no context, no follow-up.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: It's a very odd interaction. Yes. And now the entire country,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: they just eat naked together.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Well, your mom's the first person in the world who
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: sees you naked, right? So, I mean, what's the big deal?
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: There.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: But I feel like if I walked into your house, T-Bob,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: on any given night, that potentially I would see you
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: and your entire family eating naked.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Is that fair?
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: I mean... So this is where I think it is
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: weird because we are a naked family, okay? I grew
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: up with the cannon swinging me very in front of
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: us 24-7. I'd wake up and look out my room
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: and he'd just be dangling and swangling, walking past the door.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: So he never cared. But we never ate dinner naked together, dude.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: We just didn't do it. I think this seems insane. Like,
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: I can't believe this is true. But Bear Bachmeier still
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: has not addressed it publicly.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: No, it's Bear Ass Bachmeier.