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Week 3 Buy Low Sell High Trade Targets + Is Dorofeyev For Real? | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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  Alright, Barbara, Bound Bound Banger Management Fantasy Hockey
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  podcast. Woo woo woo.
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  Nice welcome one and all 2 Bangor Management, The fantasy
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  hockey podcast with your favorite hosts, the cool guys
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  Nobody calls us that. Jake, Josh and Kevin.
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  My dad called us that. That's true.
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  OK, so today we have a really fun episode for you all.
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  It's our first buy low sell high of this season for Week 3 of the
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  Fantasy Hockey. Season, let's go.
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  This is this is my personal favorite.
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  I have a lot of fun diving into these and these can provide a
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  lot of value. Especially this season also.
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  Yeah, listen, who doesn't love trading in fantasy?
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  I feel like no matter what fantasy sport you play, trading
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  is always top of mind, is the most fun that you can have after
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  the draft and you're always trying to pull one quick on your
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  league mates as well. So in early season is the best
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  time to do it I think because that's when everybody's
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  overreacting from what they thought before the draft, they
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  thought before the season. And then guys who go off in the
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  first like 2-3 games and then you're like, Oh my God, we
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  question everything. Was I wrong?
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  Was I right? Yeah, 100%, yeah.
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  I left early. And I love to trade, so I'm a
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  great trade partner. The hustle never stops.
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  OK, so yeah, let's dive into that.
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  and it's a lot of fun, so be sure to check that out if you
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  haven't. Already, I was gonna say before
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  we get into it, this is our first bio cell have the season.
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  If you're new here and this is your first year rocking with us,
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  we basically each pick one by low target, 1 cell, high target.
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  So you get 6 names, 3 to target, 3 to sell for your week.
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  And obviously we touch on other names as well.
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  We give you targets, we give you names that you can try to snipe
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  or try to get rid of. And that's part of the fun.
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  We won't cover at literally every by law every cell high
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  target, but we'll talk about most of them so.
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  Gotta save something for next week.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, alright, I'll dive in with
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  my Bilo for this week. My choice for this week Bilo is
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  Darcy Kemper of the LA Kings. So it's often a theme I think of
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  of this segment for us that will end up choosing our own guys,
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  guys on our team as bylaws. But I think it's because our
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  self that's often it's just we have such a you have more of an
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  eye on guys on your team cuz you're looking at what they do
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  every single night. So sometimes the names just pop
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  out at you from your own team. It's hard to resist.
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  I'll try not to do it too often, but this week seemed like a big
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  glaring one for me. So Kemper is off to an awful
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  start. He's own three let in at least
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  three goals in each game and sub 900 save percentage in each
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  game. But it's hard to believe this
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  Kings team will continue to be this bad.
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  And if they are this bad, I can't imagine management not
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  making a move to fix it because they are in win now mode.
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  They're not trying to tank or anything crazy like that.
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  They should finish top three in the division.
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  So if we dive into the three games he has played, try to come
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  up with a reason why that might not be just how he's gonna be
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  for the whole season. First of all, he's played three
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  of the hottest teams in the league in Colorado, Winnipeg and
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  Minnesota. And five out of ten goals that
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  he's allowed over the course of those three games were on the
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  power play. So it makes sense for him to be
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  a little worse than last year because they lost a good
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  defensive defence spin and Gavrilov and replaced him with
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  the worst defenseman in the league, Cody Ceci.
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  But. There catching strees.
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  Yeah, not to have too much shade, but but it's true.
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  But he's not gonna continue to be this bad and he should still
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  end up being a top 10 fantasy goalie this year.
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  He was in our top ten in the offseason and one week is not
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  enough for that to be tossed out the window.
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  If you're leaks camper owner is freaking out right now.
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  This is the perfect time to pounce and grab him for cheap.
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  Or not necessarily cheap, but here are some targets that I
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  think you can get Kemper for. That would be a good deal.
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  I'm looking at UC Saros software Smoking hot starts out the
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  season, but I don't think any of us really believe in the
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  Predators resurgence. You've got Anthony Dollars,
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  who's not off to the craziest start, but he is the starter for
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  now. I do think Wall comes back at
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  some point and I'm more comfortable having temper.
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  And you've got Jeremy Swagman. I think of these three, he's off
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  to a super hot start as well. But of these three teams, I
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  think Boston might be the one where the lowest on either that
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  or Predators. So that's another similar
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  situation to Saros where they're often really hot start.
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  But there's no way that Boston is going to finish higher than
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  LA this year. So I think these are all good
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  targets to get Kemper for. Yeah, completely agree.
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  I'm with you there too, yeah. I was just gonna, I'm just gonna
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  say like Kemper and this LA Kings team, like they will be
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  top three in the division. They could win the division
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  realistically. Now, if you played the three
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  teams that you mentioned right off the bat, especially like
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  when you start the season, everybody's kind of a little
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  rusty too, like yourself finding your groove and you play through
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  the hottest teams during that period, it's going to hurt.
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  I think there's undoubtedly better days ahead for Kemper.
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  He's still going to be a top 10 goalie.
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  His efficiency metrics were so good last year, but people kind
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  of hate them. Like they don't they don't
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  believe in him. So if you're in your league, if
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  the manager is kind of panicking and already wasn't somebody that
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  believed in him too much like this is the perfect opportunity.
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  And the targets of Josh listed our amazing.
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  Yeah, I'm the highest, I think of everyone on LA.
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  I think they're gonna be a really good team.
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  They've got a very good roster and they're really kind of like
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  a shutdown team as well. So I'm surprised that they've
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  gotten off to such a close start with honestly so many high
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  scoring games, especially goals against.
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  Now, I I'm totally on the same page as both of you with regards
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  to the resurgence happening and I'm not worried in the slightest
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  now. Also, he's just kind of a boring
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  name, a known commodity. I don't think anyone's super
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  high on the name Kemper, but when it comes to the reliability
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  and especially what he did last year which was exceeded
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  expectations and then some, I think he's a fantastic by low
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  and crazy. I totally agree that you can
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  send all of these as a one for one and get Kemper back at this
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  point. I would even add a little
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  sweetener if necessary. For sure, for sure, because
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  you're it's like highway robbery if you're able to pull that off.
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  Yeah, agreed. Yeah, I really like it.
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  Alright, Kevin, continue continue the trend of Bilos on
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  our own teams. So listen, I think week 1 is the
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  perfect opportunity to just look at your own fantasy team, look
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  at who's underperforming. And if you realistically think
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  that this is not going something that is going to continue, then
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  we talk about it here. Because I drafted or Tammy
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  Panarin in the second round of my 14 team league and he is
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  currently the only healthy top three round pick on my roster
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  after Brady could Chuck and Trocheck got hurt.
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  So listen, I'm a big Panarin fan now, not in the past, but now.
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  But there's there's a clear thing with Panarin.
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  He started this season extremely slow.
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  He's not shooting as much and his points, honestly, if you
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  watch the games, they feel hard to get like they just the first
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  couple of games with the Rangers did not look pretty.
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  But you drafted this guy in the second round for a reason.
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  He has an elite playoff schedule, arguably the best.
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  He has a 4444 games in the quarters, in the semis and in
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  the finals. It doesn't get better than that.
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  You drafted a guy that has a 120 point ceiling.
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  He hit that threshold just two years ago.
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  Last year, obviously the Rangers completely fell off and that's
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  really reason why there were all kind of suppressed in the draft
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  this year. But he's playing with some elite
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  talented guys and we're in the week in and week out.
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  You know that you can get high production from him, but just
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  thus far, you don't feel like you've kind of like capitalized
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  on his draft, his draft value right now, like if you have
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  Panera on your raw. So you feel pretty disappointed,
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  especially when you see guys that got drafted in the 3rd,
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  4th, 5th round popping off like Matt Boldy, but he still getting
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  his feet under him. Don't forget he was hurt in
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  training camp. Him and JT both missed the weeks
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  leading up to the season and that heavily influences, you
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  know, your performance to start the year.
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  If you missed training camp, you're gonna be rusty,
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  especially when you're a little older.
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  As the games progress, they've gotten better, He's gotten
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  better. And I expect these next few
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  weeks to really be like a show for Panera.
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  And like, I think he's really going to turn up now that they
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  don't have track. Like they need to rely on him
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  more. Turn up, baby.
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  I think realistically it takes A2 for one to get Panarin, but
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  some one for one targets, depending on your league format
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  and how deep it is, I think you can send guys like Philip
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  Forsberg, Tage Thompson and Matt Boldy one for one for a Panera
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  and in most of your leagues in somebody in our community told
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  me earlier today that they were able to flip Pavel Dorothea for
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  Artemi Panarin. Pavel Dora, I mean spoiler is
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  going to be spoken about later, but he has started the season
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  maybe harder than anybody drafted in the 14th round.
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  After what like one week of of a sample size, you were able to
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  flip them for a second round pick who is a shoe in for over
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  100 points this season. It just feels like amazing
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  value, can't pass it up. Yeah, this is a a really good
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  one. I think it definitely ties in
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  with the, I mean, all the whole Rangers team has been kind of
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  garbage to start the season, right?
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  I mean, it's only been like 3 games or four games.
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  So nothing, nothing crazy to overreact just yet.
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  Although that's what kind of this whole segment is about is
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  how people overreact this early and how to take advantage of it.
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  But it's not like Panarin's the only Ranger who's not doing
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  well. I don't think there's a single
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  Ranger doing well other than Fox and Chesterton right now.
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  So J's not slowed down, Panarin slow and both of those guys,
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  like you said, were injured starting the season or they
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  missed as a preseason and it takes time to come back.
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  So this is definitely a period where you can get them at a
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  price exactly like at a good price.
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  Exactly. Kevin said all the targets you
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  said I think can get it done and I think those would be good
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  ones. So yeah, no, I love this as a bi
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  lo and I'm trying to buy them from you.
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  It's funny how you put your targets.
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  You included one from my team and one from Jake's team.
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  Cool. You know, year in, year out, I
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  think Panarin is criminally underrated for his production.
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  And I say this because Once Upon a time, maybe it was like 4 or
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  five years ago, I was able to trade.
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  And as crazy as Dora Fav sounds, this is going to sound even
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  crazier. I was able to trade Jeff Petry
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  plus something somewhat insignificant in a points league
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  for Panarin. How?
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  Was that even possible? I believe, I believe upon their
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  another reflection, it was that year with all the issues in in
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  Russia. That would that would have I
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  don't know remember this trade so.
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  Like no, no, like this wasn't this league.
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  This is still a points league. We're parents should even be
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  more. Valuable.
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  Better, yeah. Just the concept of being able
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  to do that is ridiculous to me because Panera and has proven
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  himself to be an elite point scorer in his whole career.
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  He's never finished the season under a point per game and last
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  year of the previous four or even 5 at where his worst points
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  per game since joining the Rangers by far, directly
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  coinciding with the Rangers taking a dip.
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  This is not going to be as bad of a Rangers team this year as
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  last year, despite the Trocheck injury.
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  Yes, I think that's going to affect them in the meantime, so
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  you may even be able to buy them at a bigger discount and a week
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  perhaps. We'll see.
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  Nevertheless, if this was Mitch Marner going through this slump
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  with the hype of now playing with Michael, people wouldn't be
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  as low on him as they are. Period.
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  He doesn't get the respect he deserves and I still think he's
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  an elite player that you'd be happy to have on your team.
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  Alright, take us home with the with the trio of choosing our
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  own guys. Yeah.
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  So someone who I think Kevin should consider trading me
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  Panera in four? So you kind of do trade
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  negotiations in the middle of an episode, Yeah.
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  You'll edit it out, wink. OK.
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  Alright, my Bilo, hilarious that you pointed that out.
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  Josh. It's all of the guys that we
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  have on our individual teams. My bi Lo is the Tampa Bay
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  Lightning Brandon Hagel. When I told Kevin that this was
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  gonna be my bi lo, he asked and I quote, are you manifesting his
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  bounce back because you have him in all your leagues?
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  And the answer is yes, yes, I am.
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  So I'm really hoping that me listening to you for your
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  signature picks as they call it that.
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  It anyway, yeah. I thought it was picture 6.
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  Plot twist, yes. But yeah, I really do believe
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  that he can have a huge turn around and it's going to happen
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  very soon. In his three seasons with the
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  Lightning, he's had 6475 and 90 points, and last year made his
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  like be his high watermark. It's very possible. 90 points is
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  elite. I still think that he can exceed
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  80 despite the slow start. He's super important on this
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  lighting team and I think that they're going to score a lot of
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  goals. And I can't imagine there's any
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  way that, you know, like he doesn't finish top four on four
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  points on the team with Gensel point Kucherov and all these
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  guys are going to be point for game plus Kucherov being maybe 2
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  points per game. But yeah, if he's gonna be a
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  point per game guy, I'm super confident as mentioned, and I'm
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  concerned a bit with the shooting and he's not really
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  producing at all in the peripheral category.
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  So that's not looking good. But I think in a week or two
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  he's going to revert to the 2.5 shots plus.
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  And if you know, yeah, pretty much like the turn around should
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  be very, very soon. And it's a perfect time to trade
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  room. And he's even like, as I was
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  saying, Panera doesn't get his flowers.
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  Hagel, like Hagel, gets like wilted roses that.
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  Were like stepped on. Like people?
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  Do not. Associate Hagel with like any
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  respect, honestly, and I think that the targets are very, very
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  reasonable. So in my should I say my first
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  one, Josh, or should I? Yeah, go ahead anyway, anyone
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  does that, but. What?
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  No, I'm just saying like, yeah, OK.
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  Like I was OK. Anyway, I've got a Gunny Malkin
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  because he's had a really, really hard start.
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  Patrick Kane, which I think is more realistic.
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  Pavel Durov, Phev and myself, haha, which we're going to talk
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  about at some point soon. Yeah, I mean, I fully agree with
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  the Hagel gonna turn this around, you know, just become,
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  you know, put up a 90 point season without power, play 1 and
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  then just, you know, stop doing everything.
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  There's a lot of players like like it's such a small sample
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  size that there's so many players that obviously this is
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  not who they are after three games.
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  I think the whole Tampa team, even Kucherov is off to a slow
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  start. No ones doubting the control is
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  going to be one of the top point guys in the league at the end of
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  the year. So definitely too soon to be
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  freaking out. Hegel created by load with how
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  he started. I think that there's, I doubt
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  the Hagel owner would trade him for some of these guys.
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  I think you might be able to pull off to Ofev just because of
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  how Nutty started and that would be absolutely like robbery.
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  I highly doubt that you can get Hagel from Alexander Kane.
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  But you know what, if someone will do that with you, then go
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  for it because that's even more of a massive win.
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  So I definitely like it a lot. Yeah.
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  I mean, listen, Brandon Hagel was a signature pick for me.
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  I clearly am one of the one of the top believers in this guy.
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  I think the main thing with his value is always has always been
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  the question of that P1, right? I think he doesn't necessarily
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  have to have people one for him to return value on his draft to
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  draft a cost, but definitely helps if he ends up getting it
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  right. And I do believe at some point
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  during the season he will get it right.
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  Now it's been bad. We've been there a week, week or
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  so into the season and it has not looked good.
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  But already we saw he got bumped up the line one playing with
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  Kutcher, Raven Point. And we saw Gensel, you know, get
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  bumped down to line 2 playing with Cirelli.
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  And Denzel has actually been thriving with Cirelli, like he's
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  been going off himself. So that kind of leads me to
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  believe that maybe this deployment and Gonzalez don't
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  forget Gonsalves to believe that maybe Hagel does get a crack at
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  sticking on that line, one which listen point and culture of our
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  obviously like amazing, But being a third guy on that on
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  that line doesn't hurt. And maybe that leads into maybe
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  his getting P1 soon. You can be optimistic about
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  these things. I think he's been so bad right
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  now. And like Jackie said, the shots
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  have been very worrying that you can buy low on him completely.
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  I don't necessarily agree with the targets that Jake put as
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  like trading Malkin for Hagel or Patrick Kane for Hagel.
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  Like I don't think those get the deal done.
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  I think Dora fave Apsolutno you can trade for Hagel, but the I'd
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  I'd probably look at some more, let's say middle names then.
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  Those guys to bring. It.
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  Yeah, absolutely. I will try to break it for
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  Hagel. OK, that's like a good one.
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  I guess the the reason I put these guys, which seem crazy for
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  people like us who are dialed in, but if you're not as dialed
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  in as we are or the Discord community.
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  I mean it's the last time you played fantasy is like 10 years
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  ago. Then if getting Malkin and
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  Patrick Kane are like some sickening.
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  Right, right. But I mean like it's it's not to
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  me like they've got a really had a really good start.
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  They both did so and Hagel just really is not considered elite.
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  Like I think if you pulled like 20 fantasy managers were like
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  more casual than like super serious.
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  And you ask them how many points Brandon Hagel got last year,
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  most would say under 60. Like they just don't.
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  There's not a flashy player like people forget that he was.
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  He was over 90 exactly. I think you could trade like,
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  what do you think, Matthew Neiser Hagel.
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  I think you can get Hagel for for nice right now, take Hegel.
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  Would you do chemo for Hegel? And everybody's talking about
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  Timo right now because you got bumped up to PP1.
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  We don't know if that's going to stick.
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  We're of the belief that as soon as Steve and Nathan comes back,
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  he gets slotted right back into his net front spot where team is
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  playing right now. We've seen this in the past with
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  Timo. If you can flip Timo Meyer for
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  Brandon Hagel, even without the P1 for Hagel right now, I think
• 18:53
  that's a win. I like that a lot.
• 18:57
  Yeah, that'd be really, really cool, for sure.
• 19:01
  I was just aiming in like the lower echelon.
• 19:04
  But obviously I would still, yeah, these guys you mentioned,
• 19:06
  Kevin, I would still take Hagel over.
• 19:07
  So just haggle still pretty highly drafted.
• 19:09
  Like these guys that you listed were like double digit rounds.
• 19:12
  And I just feel like after a week or so into this season,
• 19:14
  like it's tough to. Yeah, I don't want to give away
• 19:17
  my cell high yet, but I'm gonna. We'll talk about that later.
• 19:22
  And I think that that's a good one.
• 19:25
  Tennessee, you'll all see. Let's start with Josh's sell
• 19:28
  high. All right, let's get into the
• 19:30
  cell highs, which unfortunately we don't have on our team right
• 19:34
  now, but that's all good. So my cell high for this week is
• 19:38
  Afghani Malkin, another year and once again Malkin is starting
• 19:43
  the season on our cell high list.
• 19:44
  Do you guys, are you guys getting Deja Vu from last year
• 19:47
  or if you? Have the same last year to
• 19:48
  start. The year he's been doing a great
• 19:50
  job for the past couple seasons of starting them super hot, but
• 19:53
  there's just zero chance he keeps it up just like last year,
• 19:56
  just like we said the entire time.
• 19:58
  And he would have been amazing sell high last year if he pulled
• 20:00
  it off because he completely tanked his value towards like
• 20:04
  the second-half of the season. So, so far he has five points in
• 20:06
  the first three games. But still doesn't offer much in
• 20:09
  terms of peripherals. His PowerPoint one spot isn't
• 20:11
  even a lock as we saw last year. And he's 39 years old on a
• 20:15
  terrible Penguins team. I wanna be surprised, honestly,
• 20:18
  if he's a drop in a few weeks. So if you get any value for him,
• 20:20
  I'd take it. Some targets that I'm looking at
• 20:22
  are Ricard, Raquel if you're looking at same team, Matt
• 20:25
  Barzel and Dylan Holloway, all guys who have started off pretty
• 20:28
  slow milking us at five points in three games.
• 20:31
  And I think that you might be able to pull off one of these
• 20:34
  and it would be a steal. Definitely Malkin has one of
• 20:37
  those names that like as soon as he starts doing well, people are
• 20:39
  like quick to believe that he's back.
• 20:41
  It's just like they know how good he was in the past.
• 20:43
  So as soon as he starts like off hot people are like, alright,
• 20:46
  like this is it mall comes back baby, but he is not back.
• 20:50
  He is not back at all. As soon as you see a stretch
• 20:54
  like this, if he happens to be on your roster, because if
• 20:56
  you're listening to this, you probably haven't been drifting a
• 20:58
  lot of Afghani Malkin. But if you somehow is on your
• 21:00
  roster like this is the perfect opportunity to trade him and the
• 21:04
  capitalize on moving up, moving up some value out for your team.
• 21:09
  Yeah, he's got the name. Like he he does have the name,
• 21:12
  and people get very excited. As Kevin mentioned, I'm a
• 21:15
  Holloway owner. There's no way I'd do this, but
• 21:17
  it's totally worth it because like I said, with Hagel, the
• 21:21
  banger management listeners are those who are really dialed in
• 21:24
  and easily, easily pull these trades off.
• 21:30
  These are realistic with 80% of your league.
• 21:33
  Mates, can I give you a few other names and see if you trade
• 21:37
  Malcolm for them? You're saying if I had.
• 21:40
  Yeah, if you if you had milk, would you trade him for Alexis
• 21:43
  Lafreniere? Yeah, for sure.
• 21:45
  Right. I feel that's, I feel that's an
• 21:46
  easy target. Like love got bumped up in
• 21:48
  deployment and hasn't necessarily put up points yet.
• 21:50
  I feel like that's a deal that could potentially get done.
• 21:53
  Yeah. Oh, I thought you said a few
• 21:56
  more names. I'm looking would you trade
• 21:59
  Malton for Owen Tippett? Yeah, 100%.
• 22:02
  That that that I'm less like inclined just because, you know,
• 22:07
  at least laugh as I feel like a more elite surrounding cast.
• 22:10
  But I'd probably still do it, yes.
• 22:12
  Another buy low target that I feel like nobody's really
• 22:14
  talking about is J Peterka. Yeah, I mean, we mentioned I
• 22:18
  think in our news episode that the entire Utah team is other
• 22:21
  than Gunther is underperforming. So yeah, that's another one.
• 22:24
  I mean, literally, like I wasn't exaggerating when I said that I
• 22:28
  think Malcolm could be a drop in a few weeks.
• 22:30
  So if you're getting anyone who's like a roster mainstay,
• 22:33
  then then I view that as a win. Absolutely agreed.
• 22:37
  I agreed. OK, Kevin, let's move on to your
• 22:40
  cell high. I mean, I think this is the cell
• 22:43
  high of cell highs right now. It doesn't get much better than
• 22:46
  this. But Pavel Dora, this is Mr.
• 22:50
  Goals. Do you remember in the off
• 22:52
  season we were just like talking about Dora Fav and one of our
• 22:55
  episodes leading up to the season and we were like, he's
• 22:58
  scored 35 goals last season and we were all kind of shocked that
• 23:02
  they did that number, but we were also like, he could do it
• 23:04
  again. Yeah.
• 23:06
  Three games in and he's got five goals. 0 is.
• 23:09
  Only like 30 to go. But he's got five goals, four of
• 23:14
  them on the power play, and is averaging 4 shots a game.
• 23:17
  It's early, but he was like a fourteenth round pick in almost
• 23:21
  every league in fantasy this season.
• 23:23
  And people like are quick to already like cement him as a
• 23:26
  stud on their roster. And listen, don't get me wrong,
• 23:29
  if I drafted in the fourth round in most of my leagues, I'd be
• 23:32
  thrilled right now. That is amazing value.
• 23:35
  He's probably going to be closer to like a 5th to 7th round pick
• 23:38
  in terms of like the value you're getting from that spot,
• 23:40
  which already is paying dividends.
• 23:43
  But if you can flip a 14th round pick for, you know, a top three
• 23:46
  round pick, now we're talking. And that's how you really
• 23:49
  bolster your team. Because I think, listen, he's
• 23:52
  going to score a lot of games, score a lot of games.
• 23:54
  He's gonna score a lot of goals, but he cannot keep this pace up.
• 23:59
  I this is the time to capitalize.
• 24:01
  If you can flip him for, you know, I, I don't wanna say
• 24:04
  Panarin because listen, I told you something.
• 24:05
  Our community already got that done.
• 24:07
  But I feel like that's kind of like unrealistic.
• 24:08
  And mostly, yeah, that's not. Unless it's in a package, but
• 24:11
  these are some other names that I would highly consider that
• 24:14
  could potentially get done in a one for one.
• 24:16
  I think Clayton Keller is an amazing target.
• 24:18
  Yeah, Kelly doesn't have the best playoff schedule, but if
• 24:21
  we're looking for immediate value, I feel like jumping up
• 24:23
  all those rounds to get the clean colour would be amazing.
• 24:26
  Celebrity hasn't had the hottest start yet.
• 24:28
  Like he's been good at face off wins, but mostly don't have face
• 24:31
  offs. But he's not shooting.
• 24:33
  He he's, he's not shooting at all.
• 24:35
  He has no hits, no blocks. So when you look at the game log
• 24:38
  and you pull up Pandora, if you have anything, you look at
• 24:40
  Celebrity, somebody could get tempted.
• 24:42
  Like if you're in a shallow league where centres are a
• 24:44
  little bit more devalued. I think that's completely
• 24:46
  feasible. I think Tage Thompson, if you
• 24:49
  can get Dora for tape, that'd be lit.
• 24:51
  And the OV, I think OV is a great target.
• 24:53
  That's like a power forward for your banger leagues.
• 24:56
  He hasn't had like a flashy start right now, so I think he's
• 24:58
  still in attainable name. I would slip for all of you.
• 25:01
  I think this is such a slam dunk of a cell high not to sometimes
• 25:07
  you see a cell high like you look at like the Malkin one that
• 25:09
  I mentioned and that's like get him off your team before he
• 25:11
  drops off and becomes useless. That's not the same situation
• 25:14
  here. Door fav is going to be good all
• 25:15
  year. I think we all kind of agree on
• 25:17
  that. Like 3540 goals I think is super
• 25:20
  doable for him. But like you said, when you
• 25:23
  could flip him for a truly elite guy, you got to do it.
• 25:25
  And I love all these targets. Would you trade him for Seth
• 25:28
  Jarvis? I would take Jarvis over door
• 25:32
  FEV. So if that if, yeah, if that's
• 25:33
  what you meant by it, then yeah. What I love about this is that
• 25:37
  there's like a few selling points.
• 25:39
  One, goals are harder to come by than it says.
• 25:41
  Now. He will get more goals than
• 25:43
  assists. He's not gonna get his pace of
• 25:45
  137 goals and 0 assists this year.
• 25:49
  That's not happening. Another thing, the other thing
• 25:55
  is that like a big flashy part of this is that he's playing on
• 25:58
  the power play with Eichel and Marner huge.
• 26:01
  And that's going to stick, I think.
• 26:02
  Yeah, I agree. I don't think he's getting
• 26:04
  bumped off. And frankly, if you I agree with
• 26:08
  Josh and like the realistic elements of it all, Keller is
• 26:11
  someone I'm more than happy with.
• 26:13
  But look on the celebrity owner, I'm listening to our bylaws all
• 26:18
  high episode, I'm not doing it. But if you're the celebrity
• 26:22
  owner, getting two shots over 2 games versus Dora faves 3008
• 26:26
  billion. Goals.
• 26:28
  I don't know I mean I think it's like worth a shot for sure.
• 26:32
  I even think question if you have Dora fav, would you send
• 26:36
  him Forest Lukovsky? No.
• 26:40
  No, I think I would take to our fav.
• 26:42
  Overself cause you. Yeah, yeah.
• 26:44
  OK. Do represented himself as like,
• 26:48
  I think he's in the same kind of range as like a cold coffield.
• 26:51
  Like he's he's in that range where he's going to get over
• 26:53
  three shots a game. He's a he's a killer for goals.
• 26:56
  He's one of the best power plays, I think.
• 26:59
  He's only like the only reason he didn't end up on like my team
• 27:03
  because of how late he went. Like I had my eye on him for
• 27:05
  rounds but two things was 1 he was injured and two was I didn't
• 27:09
  know if he had that spot on power play.
• 27:11
  One since he was injured when they releasing the power play
• 27:13
  ones, obviously he was never on them.
• 27:15
  So without properly one I think he loses most of his value.
• 27:19
  But since he has it and he's doing so well with it and it's
• 27:21
  not gonna lose it, that jumps him up to like such a high value
• 27:24
  guy. They were they were quick to put
• 27:25
  him up people you want. As soon as he was healthy, there
• 27:27
  was like 0 hesitation. They did not did not wait one
• 27:30
  second. That's why I'm really I'm
• 27:33
  convinced that he keeps that spot.
• 27:34
  I feel even. Would plan the whole time.
• 27:37
  Exactly. Even if they put a defensive
• 27:38
  back on there, I don't think he's the one that gets bumped,
• 27:40
  if I'm being real. So I think his deployment is set
• 27:43
  to stay. I think he's firmly entrenched
• 27:45
  as like a 1/5 or sixth round value if he was like draft day
• 27:49
  right now. And I think you can aim even
• 27:51
  higher. So Panarin also would be a great
• 27:55
  target. Listen, if I'm the Panarin
• 27:56
  owner, if somebody sent me like Dora PHEV plus like, I'm highly
• 27:58
  considering that. It's got to be a generous plus
• 28:01
  though, and you should do that. If you're for sure, for sure,
• 28:03
  but I'm obviously I'm, let's say more research than the average
• 28:07
  person, but I'm imagining myself in like somebody else's shoes
• 28:10
  that like has been on their team and like he's the only one
• 28:12
  that's not performing. Or you know, your other studs
• 28:14
  are doing well but not in there. And like, I can see somebody
• 28:16
  being in a mindset to make that slip.
• 28:20
  Yeah, shoot for the stars with this one because of how well
• 28:22
  he's doing. Yeah, you like not, not trying
• 28:25
  to get him off your roster completely, but it's just like
• 28:26
  such an amazing opportunity to really capitalize on that value.
• 28:29
  Yeah, it's good time to say that he's still may be the steal of
• 28:32
  the draft. Or my. 14th round pick.
• 28:35
  He's going to be the best. He's going to be the best record
• 28:38
  draft. Yeah, and it doesn't mean that
• 28:41
  you're dying to get rid of them, keep them around.
• 28:44
  Even if he goes through a little slump.
• 28:46
  Like I think he's going to be really good for shots angles,
• 28:48
  but chances are this is the highest value is going to be all
• 28:51
  year just because it's so ridiculous, so solemn.
• 28:54
  If you can for something better and make it as elite as you can.
• 28:57
  My sell high who's also shaping up, as I said to be the steal of
• 29:02
  the draft is of the Boston Bruins line one power play 1.
• 29:08
  Where did that come from? Sort of predictable, yet not
• 29:11
  really Elias Lindholm. And there's, you know, I think
• 29:17
  both him and Dora Fev are the two glaring cell highs.
• 29:22
  But to me, Lindholm is really, really fitting that mold,
• 29:26
  especially for Bangor leagues. He's the perfect combination of
• 29:29
  good deployment, decent name value, opportunity and playing
• 29:32
  with an elite player. But when it's all said and done,
• 29:35
  there's no way this pace is going to be continued all year.
• 29:39
  He did have some solid pregame like season end this like he's
• 29:44
  had good seasons in the past, but at this point in his career,
• 29:48
  I don't see him being anything more than a solid defensive
• 29:50
  player. I don't like maybe
• 29:52
  controversial, especially to the Lynn homeowner, so sorry if
• 29:55
  offended you. But moving on.
• 29:58
  I'm still quite low on the Bruins as we all are.
• 30:01
  And at the time of their recording, their second place in
• 30:05
  the league and they're tied for third most goals per game
• 30:08
  because we love to say on the buy low sell high episodes, this
• 30:10
  is clearly not sustainable. The one thing I will say is the
• 30:13
  Bruins in general, as Kevin has mentioned many times, it's not
• 30:17
  in their DNA to be a rebuilding team.
• 30:20
  So you gotta learn home with good deployment, 15 minutes and
• 30:23
  nights so far. It is suggested that he's going
• 30:25
  to stay on line one power play one for most of the year.
• 30:28
  But I would still try to capitalize on his production
• 30:31
  because it's super, super amazing right now in Bangor
• 30:34
  leagues. It's unbelievable, especially if
• 30:36
  you have phase offs. But I firmly believe that this
• 30:38
  is going to be his season high value and he was, you know, on
• 30:43
  waivers for a decent chunk of the year last year even in our
• 30:46
  league, which is a very deep anger console league.
• 30:48
  So something worth something worth noting.
• 30:52
  I think some good targets are my aforementioned Bylow, Brandon
• 30:56
  Hagel, Lane Hudson, Elias Peterlin Peterson and Andreas
• 31:04
  Fechner Kov. Yeah, I, I love it.
• 31:08
  I mean, Lindholm's off to an absolutely nuts start.
• 31:10
  I think something that's notable about his start is not just the
• 31:12
  points, but also the shots have been really, really good.
• 31:16
  He, that's not the type of player he is that kind of came
• 31:19
  out of out of nowhere this season to start with.
• 31:21
  And I don't expect him to suddenly become a player who's
• 31:23
  shooting four shots a game after being like 1.5 last year.
• 31:27
  He will be great for faceoff wins.
• 31:29
  He'll be, you know, he could be like 1.2 hits and blocks and
• 31:34
  maybe two shots and like like he's not the type of guy I think
• 31:37
  is going to drop off and become a waiver player essentially, but
• 31:40
  he's not gonna be anywhere near what he's doing right now.
• 31:42
  Completely agree. And I love the targets he but I
• 31:45
  think it's a similar situation in Dorfe where they're starting
• 31:47
  off so, so hot and they're still gonna have value throughout the
• 31:50
  year, but it's not gonna be this high.
• 31:51
  So if you could turn them into someone who is just clearly a
• 31:55
  tier above, but right now is playing way worse than it's a
• 31:58
  great call. So I like it a lot.
• 32:00
  Yeah, I mean, I I think Lindholm is a great IRL centre, but we
• 32:05
  saw this happen last year. Like I dropped in the Lindhome
• 32:08
  last year and he started pretty, pretty like pretty good.
• 32:11
  And you look at the deployment line 1P1, he's playing with
• 32:14
  David Pasternak. So already the foundation is set
• 32:17
  for him to have. And Morgan.
• 32:19
  Yeah, absolutely right that. Josh is.
• 32:22
  Josh has more details, so he's pretty high, but already like
• 32:27
  the deployment and the exposure to elite talent is there.
• 32:29
  So you're like, OK, he has everything that's necessary to
• 32:32
  be an elite fantasy asset, but last year really didn't come
• 32:35
  together. Like you said, the biggest, the
• 32:37
  biggest difference is here is the shots.
• 32:38
  Like he's not a guy that shoots like over 2A game.
• 32:40
  Like he will hover around there. And I think this year he will be
• 32:43
  better than he was last year. Like Boston was atrocious last
• 32:46
  year. There will be a bad team, but
• 32:48
  there will still be better than they were last year.
• 32:50
  So I think there's a lot of upside, but you have to trade
• 32:53
  him like he's been so good. And I really think that you can
• 32:56
  capitalize on the value right now.
• 32:57
  And also you can use the fact that Boston has liked the ranges
• 33:00
  the best playoff schedule, like they have a 4444 games in the
• 33:03
  quarter, semis and finals if you're if you have a week 24
• 33:07
  championship. So I really think that this.
• 33:10
  Is a 20. 323 championship sorry, so this is the time to sell.
• 33:14
  I even think that my co-host disagree with me, but I feel you
• 33:17
  can flip Lindholm for Robert Thomas and I think you can get
• 33:21
  that done because he was so highly drafted.
• 33:23
  But he has also started this season pretty slow.
• 33:25
  He's not a shot kind of guy either, but you expect that he
• 33:27
  gets like over 80 points. I feel that's a great flip if
• 33:30
  you're able to make it happen. That would be amazing.
• 33:33
  If you could pull it off, it's great.
• 33:36
  Yeah, we spoke about that in our news episode a little bit, so
• 33:40
  we're not gonna elaborate too much, but that is like the
• 33:44
  absolute dream. That's to me if you can really
• 33:48
  do something like that, Even Lynn Home Plus I mean I think
• 33:53
  Thomas is going to be a 90 point guy and Lindholm 60, which would
• 33:58
  be good, like really good, better way better than I thought
• 34:02
  before the season started. And again, this doesn't mean
• 34:05
  like you gotta sell him to sell him.
• 34:07
  It just means you should sell him high because the one thing
• 34:10
  Josh you mentioned very similar to Dora Fav.
• 34:12
  Totally agree with everything you're saying except Dora
• 34:15
  doesn't have the name value in home has.
• 34:18
  You know what I mean? Lynn Holmes got this incredible
• 34:20
  name value because this production on Calgary and also
• 34:22
  he has a cousin whatever was in the league.
• 34:26
  So the the Lynn homes are quite ubiquitous around the NHL.
• 34:30
  And to me, I just I really think that there's a lot of reasons
• 34:34
  that you can sell him and get tremendous value.
• 34:37
  I didn't even think about putting Thomas because it was so
• 34:39
  ridiculous. But the more I think about it,
• 34:41
  Kevin, I think you're right. So you know if it's.
• 34:44
  One of the most flashy name either, and he's, yeah, tourists
• 34:47
  are not being a stat stuffer. So when you see all those heroes
• 34:50
  in the game log and you pull up Lynn home like, it's
• 34:52
  tantalizing. For sure for sure.
• 34:54
  Alright this was awesome. Our first buy low sell high of
• 34:59
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• 35:22
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• 35:25
  Yeah, exactly. But also listen, if this is your
• 35:29
  first Biocell high episode, like give us some feedback if you
• 35:32
  want to see maybe the format change a little bit.
• 35:34
  But this is we just want to give you guys names that you can
• 35:37
  target and get off. Your ass the best before we
• 35:40
  started the podcast and I was looking for fancy stuff every
• 35:43
  week I'd be Googling who should I buy low sell high, you know,
• 35:45
  like you do your own research, but it's like it's nice to have
• 35:47
  some people just give you a list of players and you're like, OK,
• 35:50
  I either have this player on my team or he's on another team and
• 35:53
  I want to target him. So it's I love it.
• 35:55
  I think it's a. Great diligence.
• 35:56
  We're gonna do the heavy lifting for you guys and give you guys a
• 35:58
  list of names and obviously everybody has your your personal
• 36:01
  preference and you choose the ones that you like.
• 36:03
  But yeah, that's that's the goal.
• 36:05
  And definitely let us know what you think of the choices.
• 36:08
  Like we would love to hear your feedback on in that regard as
• 36:11
  well. Yeah.
• 36:14
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  Now he's back. Anger management.
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