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A Race-Hate Murder_ The Horrific Case of 15-Year-Old Kriss Donald _ True Crime Central · History Dark

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: The body of a schoolboy has been discovered in Scotland.
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  Speaker 2: This is probably one of their most difficult scenes to examine.
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  Speaker 2: It can be incredibly emotional, but as a suicide, you've
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  Speaker 2: got a job to do.
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  Speaker 1: Detectives believe he'd been abducted.
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  Speaker 3: I imagine how long that journey would have felt if
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  Speaker 3: you thought at any moment you.
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  Speaker 4: Were going to die.
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  Speaker 1: An international manhunt is launched.
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  Speaker 4: One of the most demanding murder investigations Scotland's ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: The forensic team must act fast. to find evidence of
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  Speaker 1: the killer at the crime scene.
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  Speaker 2: No matter how careful offenders think they've been, we will
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  Speaker 2: always find a trace at a crime scene.
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  Speaker 1: MUSIC The body of a young boy has been discovered
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  Speaker 1: on an isolated pathway in the early hours of the morning.
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  Speaker 1: He has suffered multiple stab wounds and his clothes have
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  Speaker 1: been burned from his body. The entire area is cordoned
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  Speaker 1: off and senior investigating officer Elliot McKenzie is called to
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  Speaker 1: the scene.
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  Speaker 4: When I got down here, it was a young boy.
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  Speaker 4: His body was lying almost exactly where the bench that
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  Speaker 4: you see there is. He'd suffered considerable burns. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think there's a word to put. He's describing how I felt.
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  Speaker 2: A murder of a child can be one of the
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  Speaker 2: most horrendous crimes known. It can be potentially quite an
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  Speaker 2: emotional experience for the suicide investigators investigating them, particularly if
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  Speaker 2: they've got children of their own. It can be very disturbing.
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  Speaker 1: The previous afternoon, a boy was reported to have been
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  Speaker 1: violently abducted in broad daylight from the other side of
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  Speaker 1: the city.
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  Speaker 4: We put people around about, stopped people in the streets.
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  Speaker 4: We were trying to find out what happened to the
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  Speaker 4: young boy.
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  Speaker 5: An operation involving 40 officers is underway after a crime
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  Speaker 5: to horrify even this city.
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  Speaker 1: The missing child was named as 15-year-old Chris Donald.
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  Speaker 4: A totally innocent boy, 15 years of age. No previous
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  Speaker 4: background of trouble. I can't imagine what Chris was going
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  Speaker 4: through at that point in time. It's unimaginable. Unimaginable.
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  Speaker 3: A brazen abduction in broad daylight of a young boy,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a 15-year-old. A particularly brutal murder. It's horrible.
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  Speaker 1: A team of officers investigate who abducted Chris Donald whilst
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  Speaker 1: Elliot and his team begin to search the crime scene
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  Speaker 1: for any forensic evidence.
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  Speaker 2: You have to remember that you're not there as a
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  Speaker 2: family member or a relative. You're there as a professional
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  Speaker 2: to almost try and detach yourself from the emotional side.
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  Speaker 2: You've got a job to do.
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  Speaker 1: Crime scene expert Sarah Thirkle has over 25 years' experience
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  Speaker 1: in the field.
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  Speaker 2: Where the body was found was an outdoor scene, and
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  Speaker 2: this is probably one of the most difficult scenes to examine.
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  Speaker 2: It was on a public footpath next to a river,
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  Speaker 2: so it needs to be protected from the elements, it
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  Speaker 2: needs to be protected from members of the public. We
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  Speaker 2: really are working against the clock to recover as much
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  Speaker 2: forensic evidence as you can in case anything's lost.
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  Speaker 1: In order to develop a forensic strategy, the investigation need
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  Speaker 1: to ascertain what happened at the scene.
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  Speaker 4: Do we think that this body was killed here or
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  Speaker 4: killed elsewhere and then dumped here? Because that makes a
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  Speaker 4: difference into... Our investigative command.
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  Speaker 2: A body that's been injured so badly and also burnt
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  Speaker 2: is incredibly fragile. A pathologist is called to examine the
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  Speaker 2: body in situ. This is to try and process any
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  Speaker 2: trace evidence on the victim as soon as possible. And
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  Speaker 2: they would take swabs from skin surfaces or any swabs
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  Speaker 2: from injuries that they could see whilst trying not to
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  Speaker 2: disturb the body any further.
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  Speaker 1: The CSIs begin their search at the body and fan
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  Speaker 1: out across the scene.
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  Speaker 4: I found some blood staining in the grass. Followed that
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  Speaker 4: staining up. Bits of blood could easily be traced back
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  Speaker 4: to this area here, where the undergrowth's up, where there
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  Speaker 4: were 20 or 30 logs, maybe 10 feet in length,
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  Speaker 4: here piled up. There was evidence of charring and a
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  Speaker 4: strong smell of accelerant. The churning would indicate this young
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  Speaker 4: person sat down on those logs and possibly exhaled and
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  Speaker 4: poured over them and set alight.
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  Speaker 3: At the crime scene, there was a range of forensic evidence. Firstly,
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  Speaker 3: there was clear evidence that a burning had taken place
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  Speaker 3: in the logs, which the scientists who attended interpreted as
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  Speaker 3: being a site of attack. But the body wasn't found there.
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  Speaker 3: The body was found some short distance away The obvious
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  Speaker 3: inference in putting this together is that the victim had
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  Speaker 3: moved to where his body was found and he had
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  Speaker 3: died there.
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  Speaker 4: He had possibly ran maybe towards the river. I had
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  Speaker 4: found water there. And it looked to me that perhaps
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  Speaker 4: he lay down in that puddle and was trying to
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  Speaker 4: put the fire out. And that's really the position that
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  Speaker 4: we found him in. Clothes had more or less melted.
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  Speaker 4: And he was lying in a kind of fetal position.
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  Speaker 1: Clyde Walkway is declared the scene of the murder. Chris's
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  Speaker 1: body is sent for a post-mortem examination while detectives look
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  Speaker 1: for investigative leads.
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  Speaker 4: The normal strategies would be house to house. Let's get
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  Speaker 4: some witnesses. And clearly, in a place like that, there
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  Speaker 4: were no witnesses. No lighting. There was no CCTV. So
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  Speaker 4: what was in front of us was all we were
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  Speaker 4: going to get from that scene. And it was key
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  Speaker 4: that we did that meticulously.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, at the time of any investigation, you're not sure
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  Speaker 2: what evidence is relevant and what isn't relevant. So it's
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  Speaker 2: our objective to take as much forensic evidence from that
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  Speaker 2: scene because we don't know what may be important later
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  Speaker 2: on in the investigation.
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  Speaker 3: Also found at the crime scene were some tire tracks.
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  Speaker 3: It was obviously important they were sampled speedily because again
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  Speaker 3: if the weather comes in and changes them then evidence
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  Speaker 3: might be lost.
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  Speaker 2: It's possible to ascertain what vehicle has made that tyre
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  Speaker 2: track mark because you could measure the distance between the
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  Speaker 2: tyres and therefore measure the potential size of the chassis
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  Speaker 2: of the vehicle and work out what actual vehicles made
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  Speaker 2: the tyre track marks at a crime scene. They will
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  Speaker 2: cast them with casting materials which is a little bit
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  Speaker 2: like plaster of Paris. So the casting material is mixed
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  Speaker 2: up at the scene and then it's poured very carefully
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  Speaker 2: into the tyre track. This actually takes an impression of
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  Speaker 2: the tyre track mark, which can then be examined by
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  Speaker 2: a forensic scientist.
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  Speaker 3: Tyre marks are a bit like shoe marks. Although they're
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  Speaker 3: mass produced and they're in standard patterns, they also wear
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  Speaker 3: and change as they are used. And many view this
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  Speaker 3: combination of original pattern and pattern of wear as unique characteristics.
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  Speaker 1: The CSIs continue the forensic harvest and the results are
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  Speaker 1: in from the post-mortem examination.
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  Speaker 2: The samples that were taken from the body at the
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  Speaker 2: side of the river revealed no trace evidence and no DNA.
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  Speaker 2: This is probably because that evidence has been destroyed by
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  Speaker 2: the fire. A pathologist is able to ascertain if someone's
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  Speaker 2: been alive while they've been burning. Then there'd be soot
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  Speaker 2: in the lungs and also in the air passages going
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  Speaker 2: down to the lungs. In this case, the young boy
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  Speaker 2: was alive when he was set on fire. It's quite
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  Speaker 2: disturbing that human beings could actually do that to somebody.
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  Speaker 2: It begs belief that there are individuals that can do
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  Speaker 2: that to people.
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  Speaker 4: The post-mortem revealed that he had suffered 13 stab wounds,
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  Speaker 4: seven to the chest and abdomen. five to the back
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  Speaker 4: and one through the arm. But two of those stab
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  Speaker 4: wounds would have been fatal. Had he survived the fire,
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  Speaker 4: he still probably had no chance, no chance whatsoever. It's unimaginable.
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  Speaker 4: According to the pathologist, there was a total lack of
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  Speaker 4: defence wounds, which troubled me greatly.
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  Speaker 2: Defence injuries are where someone's tried to defend themselves, so
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  Speaker 2: if they know they're going to be attacked, they'll put
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  Speaker 2: their arms up or their hands up, and quite often
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  Speaker 2: you'll find defence injuries on their wrists or on the
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  Speaker 2: side of their hands. If there are no defence injuries,
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  Speaker 2: they've been restrained by a second individual or third individual,
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  Speaker 2: so they've not been able to defend themselves.
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  Speaker 1: The report implies there may be multiple suspects. and with
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  Speaker 1: just a tyre track cast recovered from the crime scene,
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  Speaker 1: the detectives are hoping the abduction site may provide some
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  Speaker 1: new leads.
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  Speaker 4: I saw my responsibility in being dedicated and leave no
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  Speaker 4: stone unturned to resolve this.
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  Speaker 6: This.
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  Speaker 1: On 15 March 2004, schoolboy Chris Donald was abducted. His
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  Speaker 1: body was later discovered on an isolated walkway on the
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  Speaker 1: other side of the city.
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  Speaker 7: The terrified teenager bringing him here to this deserted pathway
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  Speaker 7: to the east of the city. They then stabbed Chris.
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  Speaker 7: and set him alight whilst he was still alive.
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  Speaker 1: The CSIs managed to recover a tyre track impression from
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  Speaker 1: the crime scene. But with a lack of witnesses and CCTV,
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  Speaker 1: the detectives hoped to get some fresh leads from the
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  Speaker 1: scene of the abduction.
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  Speaker 3: An abduction of that type, it's unlikely to yield very
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  Speaker 3: much because it's a very quick event. The key focus
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  Speaker 3: would be who else had witnessed this? Had anyone else
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  Speaker 3: seen it? A friend of the victim, Jamie Wallace... who
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  Speaker 3: saw a car containing five Asian men pulled up beside
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  Speaker 3: him and his friend.
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  Speaker 6: Jamie Wallace was left standing in Kenmuir Street, concerned the
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  Speaker 6: men who took his friend would come back for him.
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  Speaker 4: They were saying, do you know what pain is?
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  Speaker 2: You're next.
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  Speaker 4: They were saying I was next. A very traumatic incident
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  Speaker 4: of an abduction in broad daylight of a young boy
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  Speaker 4: had been grabbed in the street, punched, kicked, leaving poor
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  Speaker 4: Chris clinging to the railings of the bowling green. Screaming,
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  Speaker 4: I'm 15 years old, what have I done? Why me?
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  Speaker 4: That's appalling.
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  Speaker 5: In this working-class and strongly Asian quarter of Glasgow, which
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  Speaker 5: has seen more than its share of gang and drug-related violence.
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  Speaker 4: When the abduction happened, the shops nearby all slammed their
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  Speaker 4: shutters and wanted nothing to do with it. All of
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  Speaker 4: a sudden, CCTV wasn't working in that area. To say
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  Speaker 4: we were met with... Blanket of uncooperation was probably an understatement.
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  Speaker 1: In the early 2000s, Glasgow was considered the murder capital
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  Speaker 1: of Europe.
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  Speaker 4: Glasgow in 2004 hit a peak. There were three times
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  Speaker 4: more murders in Glasgow than there were in London. And
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  Speaker 4: that was generally due to organised criminal gangs. So their
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  Speaker 4: feuds then became, from the violent attacks, the brutal beatings,
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  Speaker 4: stabbings to shootings.
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  Speaker 3: Where you have gangs and organised crime, each crime is
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  Speaker 3: related to some other crime. Drug supplies is related to
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  Speaker 3: drugs importation and you get turf wars over drugs.
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  Speaker 4: I mean violence is a way.
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  Speaker 3: Of life to them, it's an occupational hazard. They are
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  Speaker 3: running rackets, they are threatening people and attacking people and
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  Speaker 3: injuring them. So it means that things can happen and
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  Speaker 3: they can rely on the fact that no one will
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  Speaker 3: come forward to identify them or be witnesses.
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  Speaker 1: With the lack of witnesses willing to speak on record,
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  Speaker 1: the detectives must work with the information they have to
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  Speaker 1: try and identify any suspects.
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  Speaker 2: At this stage of the inquiry, we have two separate
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  Speaker 2: crime scenes. We have the deposition site, so where some
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  Speaker 2: tire track marks. And then we also have the abduction site,
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  Speaker 2: where there's been a sighting of a silver vehicle. So
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  Speaker 2: it's really the silver vehicle that potentially is going to
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  Speaker 2: tie these two scenes together.
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  Speaker 3: Vehicles are generally registered, so you can quite quickly find
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  Speaker 3: out who owns this vehicle. They can put out bulletins
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  Speaker 3: to watch out for particular vehicles, which means it's an
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  Speaker 3: important line of inquiry in the case.
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  Speaker 1: By checking recent reports, the police have identified a silver
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  Speaker 1: car stolen three months ago. They lean on a notorious
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  Speaker 1: car thief for information that may help them identify a suspect.
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  Speaker 4: Went to prison and spoke to an individual who admitted
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  Speaker 4: stealing the car. So we now knew that we were
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  Speaker 4: looking for this Mercedes car.
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  Speaker 1: The convicted car thief tells detectives that he sold the
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  Speaker 1: Mercedes to a well-known gang leader from the south side
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  Speaker 1: of Glasgow called Imran Shahid.
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  Speaker 4: He's a 27-year-old man, a bodybuilder. He abused steroids. which
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  Speaker 4: added to his mood swings, his propensity to violence. A
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  Speaker 4: powerful figure who saw himself as a godfather of the gang.
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  Speaker 3: Another broader line of inquiry will be, who is Imran
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  Speaker 3: Shahid associated with? Because that's who the other four men
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  Speaker 3: are likely to be. So they want to know their
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  Speaker 3: identities and then take the case from there.
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  Speaker 1: The team steps up its search for Imran Shahid and
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  Speaker 1: the silver Mercedes. and several 999 calls come in that
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  Speaker 1: could be linked to Chris's murder.
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  Speaker 4: Monday 15th of March 2004, ten past eight at night,
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  Speaker 4: a number of 999 calls were received about a Mercedes motorcar,
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  Speaker 4: silver in colour, a blaze. My forensic team arrived. with
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  Speaker 4: a face with a burnt-out car.
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  Speaker 2: CSIs will quite often spend a long time examining a
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  Speaker 2: burnt-out vehicle. It's quite difficult for us to retrieve any
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  Speaker 2: forensic evidence because it's been doused in water.
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  Speaker 1: Despite the car having been ablaze, the CSIs may have
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  Speaker 1: a potential lead.
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  Speaker 2: The tyres had survived, which is an excellent piece of evidence.
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  Speaker 2: This was then recovered and sent off for further forensic examination.
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  Speaker 1: The forensics continue to examine the burnt-out car, whilst Elliot
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  Speaker 1: receives a call from the Organised Crime Intelligence Unit.
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  Speaker 4: Some very experienced detectives came from the south side of
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  Speaker 4: Glasgow and gave us the full intelligence picture on the
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  Speaker 4: Asian gangs and their likely candidates.
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  Speaker 1: They have identified Imran Shahid's four criminal associates. Imran's younger brother,
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  Speaker 1: 25-year-old Jishan Shahid, also known as Crazy, Mohammed Faizal Mushtaq,
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  Speaker 1: who was known as Beck, Danish Zahid, and also Zahid Mohammed,
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  Speaker 1: known as Ziggy, who was on early release from prison
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  Speaker 1: and wearing a security tag.
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  Speaker 4: We believe these were the five individuals involved, which is great,
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  Speaker 4: but they then have to build the case against them.
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  Speaker 4: The five individuals I'm talking about here are part of
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  Speaker 4: a gang, an organised criminal gang.
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  Speaker 8: Gangs often serve as a pseudo-family and work in a
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  Speaker 8: hierarchical system with a gang leader in place. If a
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  Speaker 8: gang member has the intention to harm somebody else, then
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  Speaker 8: it's likely that other group members may follow and take
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  Speaker 8: part in the commission of the act of crime.
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  Speaker 3: What was unusual about this case was it wasn't clear
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  Speaker 3: why this gang of men abducted a 15-year-old white boy.
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  Speaker 4: Because he just kept himself to himself. Not involved in
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  Speaker 4: the gang culture. Just a totally innocent boy. With, I think,
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  Speaker 4: a big heart. He was a keen football player and
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  Speaker 4: had aspirations, but never got the chance to fulfil that.
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  Speaker 1: Whilst the police search for the five suspects, the intelligence
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  Speaker 1: unit have news of a recent altercation outside a nightclub
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  Speaker 1: between Imran's gang and another rival gang.
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  Speaker 4: We believe a bottle had been thrown, which perhaps hit
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  Speaker 4: Imran Shaheed. He tried to chase them, to grab one
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  Speaker 4: of them. And they got away and they were taunting him.
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  Speaker 4: That could negatively impact on his criminal street credibility.
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  Speaker 8: Gang rivalry often involves a continual cycle of retaliated violence.
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  Speaker 8: And in this case, it's saving the reputation that appeared
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  Speaker 8: to be of paramount importance, regardless of the way in
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  Speaker 8: which it was carried out. It may be that he
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  Speaker 8: needed to act fast to show to the community and
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  Speaker 8: the gangs that he could assert his power.
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  Speaker 4: He spent the whole night articulating his rage and planning
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  Speaker 4: his revenge to re-establish his street credibility. And that is
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  Speaker 4: the sole motivation. and to go and look for their
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  Speaker 4: ideal target. But this was a 15-year-old boy, not some
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  Speaker 4: other gangster who had been involved in criminality all his day.
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  Speaker 4: And Chris just happened to be walking with Jamie. And
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  Speaker 4: that's how he was targeted. He wasn't targeted, he was
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  Speaker 4: just there. You've heard it expressed many times, wrong place,
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  Speaker 4: wrong time. That sums up poor Chris's demise.
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  Speaker 1: The detectives now have a motive for the murder. As
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  Speaker 1: Elliot's team prepares to simultaneously arrest the five suspects, there
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: is some positive news from the forensics lab.
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  Speaker 2: On this occasion, one of the tyres on the vehicle
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: did match the tyre cast that was taken from the
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: crime scene. So a forensic scientist was able to say
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: that that tyre had made that mark at the crime scene.
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  Speaker 1: The police have linked the vehicle to the murder scene
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  Speaker 1: and despite it being set on fire, the scientists have
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  Speaker 1: managed to salvage some crucial evidence.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: When the car was examined, Cramsey investigators were able to
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  Speaker 2: find blood spots across the bonnet of the vehicle, which
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: hadn't been destroyed by the fire. It appeared to be
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: arterial blood. It looked like it may well have been
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: from a knife wound because of the spatter and distribution
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  Speaker 2: on the bonnet of the vehicle. This would indicate that
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  Speaker 2: someone has been stabbed very close to the front of
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  Speaker 2: that vehicle. It was possible to be able to examine
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  Speaker 2: this blood and swab it and try and get a
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  Speaker 2: DNA profile from the blood.
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  Speaker 1: The blood is a match to Chris Donald.
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  Speaker 4: This blood splatter went right across the bonnet of the
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  Speaker 4: car or at the side of the car. So if
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: you remember, two of the wounds were fatal. That could
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: have been where those fatal wounds were applied.
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  Speaker 1: The scientists continue to process the car in a bid
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  Speaker 1: to find trace evidence of the suspects.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Although someone's burnt a vehicle out, Once you stop moving
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: items around within the vehicle, then sometimes you will find
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: evidence under the surface. It's almost like a layer of protection.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: There was some melted green plastic on the back seat
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: of the car. And this looked like it was probably
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: a petrol can. Inside the boot of the car, there
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: was a leather jacket, which was quite badly burnt. This
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: was then recovered and sent off for further forensic examination.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: To add to the urgency... Far-right political groups are using
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  Speaker 1: the murder as propaganda.
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  Speaker 3: I knew there was something odd about it and something
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: distinctive about it. I remember it being talked about as
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: racially motivated, which of course was very unusual.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: They were shouting white bastards.
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: That's what the Asians were shouting.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: They were saying, do you know what pain is? Trust me,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: there was a bad feeling in that part of Glasgow.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: And it could have got very violent, very violent. So
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: it was challenging for me as an individual, it was
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: challenging as a force to respond to this. And something
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: had to be done, quite frankly, to ease that pressure.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: As the pressure mounts, there's another forensic discovery that could
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: be crucial to the entire case.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Inside the boot of the vehicle, there was a leather jacket.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Despite the fact it was burnt, there was an area
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: that was protected inside the jacket because it was folded over.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: When a forensic scientist is looking at an item for
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: wearer's DNA, they would concentrate their examination around the neck
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: area and around the cuffs and maybe on the inside
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: of the pockets. You'd get quite a lot of skin
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: cells that are deposited inside jacket pockets. It was possible
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: to be able to obtain wearer's DNA from this jacket,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: so they're able to link a jacket back to an individual.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: By its nature, leather is extremely fire-resistant, and despite the
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: jacket being left inside the burning car, scientists have a
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: positive DNA match.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: They found DNA matching Imran Shahid. So what this evidence
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: does is it links together the prime suspect, Imran Shahid,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: who has left his jacket in the car, the car
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: that is known to have abducted Chris Donald, it is
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: very powerful, mutually corroborating evidence that would be very compelling
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: if put before a jury in court.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: When we were told, we were almost in disbelief in
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: eminent sign kin, we were jubilant. That's all I'm going
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: to say. After hundreds of thousands of gallons of water
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: had been poured on this vehicle to extinguish it by
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: the fire service, how the DNA survived, we don't know.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: They've got a very strong link, so the police then
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: can go public to try and trace Shahid as at
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: the very least a witness, if not a suspect in
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: this crime.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: This breakthrough is key to the investigation. The police can
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: now link Imran Shahid to the crime scene. They're still
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: looking to link Jishan Shahid, Mohammed Faisal Mushtaq, Danish Zahid
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and Zahid Mohammed to the murder of Chris Donald. For Elliot,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: the case was rapidly becoming the most complex of his career.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: I knew it was going to be a big challenge.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: I think that's probably... It was a big realisation that
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: this was just the beginning of a massive challenge.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: In Glasgow, 15-year-old Chris Donald was abducted in broad daylight
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: before being murdered. The police have identified five suspects... And
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the forensics have linked the gang leader, Imran Shahid, to
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the car used for the crime.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: This was the crucial link that linked an offender to
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the jacket, to the vehicle, and therefore that vehicle to
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: the two scenes. But it's important to remain focused because
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: they would then need to build on this to find
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: further evidence.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Imran Shahid and the other men have yet to be located.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Detectives are still working to find evidence that links the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: four other suspects.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: The term forensic evidence covers a multitude of different disciplines.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: A lot of people just think it's fingerprints and DNA,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: but also there's digital forensics. Digital forensics is becoming a
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: lot more important in more recent years because everybody leaves
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: a digital footprint somewhere.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: When you switch on a mobile phone, it logs on
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: to the nearest base station antenna. We usually call it
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: a cell site. There are cell sites, base stations all
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: around the country. If you move with a phone, if
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: you travel with a phone, you move from one base
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: station to another. So you can track mobile phones if
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: they're travelling. That cell site registers the phone's metadata. So
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: the phone number, transactions between that phone and any other
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: phone and it records the number of the phone that
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: is called. So what you could achieve using this kind
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: of evidence is that you can establish where someone is
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: at a particular time and perhaps where they went next.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Because every time the phone logs on to the cell site,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: the time is registered. So it's a very powerful tool
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: for monitoring the movements of individuals, but also linking people together.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: The digital forensic team have managed to track the phone
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: data of all five suspects.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Their phone usage and their lack of phone usage in
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: particular told the story. It painted the picture. Looking at
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: the actual connectivity, there was hundreds of calls, busy calls, texts,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: And the significance was nobody was calling or texting at
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: the time of the abduction.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: The data shows all five phones travelling from Glasgow to
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Strathclyde Park, where just after half past three, one phone
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: leaves the pack. The other four phones continue travelling all
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the way to Dundee.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: This remained in the car. We're unsure about position, but
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: more than likely in between them and the seat well
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: in the rear. There may have been some tentative stab wounds,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: scratches and things like that where they were probably trying
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: to psychologically torture Chris.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I imagine how long that journey would have felt if
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: you thought at any moment you were going to die,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: which is probably what he was told and probably what
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: he believed. So effectively, the drive to Dundee, he was
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: being psychologically tortured.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Throughout that period.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: He was in the executioner's waiting room and that's how
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: it was going to end. What he didn't know was
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: just how horribly it was going to end.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: The telephone data reveals disturbing details of what the gang
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: wanted to do to Chris.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: During the journey, they had committed a number of calls
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: to criminal associates. We were able to take statements which said,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: oh yes, Imran Shahid phoned me. He had a a
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: young boy he wanted to take somewhere. They wanted to
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: seriously assault. And that journey took over five hours, up
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: to Dundee and back with one stop, where we assume
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: they bought the petrol which they used in the murder.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Having failed to find a location where they could torture
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: their victim, the data shows the four men's phones travelling
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: back down to Glasgow.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: So it was about the key moments, which were the abduction,
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: the journey, and the murder site, and then the burning
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: of the car. The most significant one was around about 7.20pm,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: where there was a 20-minute silence and calls. That silence,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: we believe, was indicative of the fact that In those
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: 20 to 30 minutes, they were killing Chris. In that timeline,
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: that was the killing zone. It was kind of.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: It's the level of spite and hate involved, it's the determination.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: You can imagine somebody abducting. I'm going to sell a school.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: We drive in, get him in the car, beat him up,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: drive around for half an hour, think I'll be able
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: to chuck him out of the car.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: But no, there's so much determination here that they are
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: willing to drive all the way to Dundee and not
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: find somewhere, drive all the way back. They're still full
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: of spite and hate and they want him to suffer
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: It is quite a difficult crime to think about, if
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: you think about the detail.
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: By travelling over 200 miles to Dundee and back, the
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: offenders have plenty of time to discuss and plan the attack.
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: This removes the idea that this may have been an adrenaline-fuelled,
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: spur-of-the-moment crime of passion, but rather... that there was a
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: considerable amount of time for them to think about what
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: they were about to do.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Having built up an incriminating timeline, detectives set off to
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: simultaneously arrest the five suspects.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: They were all equally guilty. All of them had committed
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: a barbaric crime. We wanted them all at the one
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: time and we didn't want to go down the line
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: early doors of arresting two and not getting three And
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: as we went to search for them, we obviously tried
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: every known address of their criminal associates. We covered a
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: whole host of other things and disrupted a whole host
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: of other crimes. We recovered quantities of drugs, firearms, all sorts,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: with people jumping out of windows, running away. With bags
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: of drugs, it was a real... We disrupted the hornet's nest.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: News of the raids spread across Glasgow.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: From community intelligence, we found out that Imran Shahidi's brother
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: and Bex were not in that area. We continued to search.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: After a huge coordinated effort, police could only detect two
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: of their suspects.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: It's a calculated risk, but there came a point where
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: we had to go for Danish and for his pal Ziggy.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: With two in custody, police continue to search for the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: three outstanding suspects.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: We'd run the course of looking for them locally, and
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: there came a time where, you know, we assured that
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: they were gone, but this time to make good their
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: escape from the UK. Obviously devastated, absolutely devastated.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: When a suspect or someone who is a person of
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: significance in a crime is being traced and flees the country...
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: With some countries there is an extradition process by which
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: the police can apply to have that person detained and
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: then brought back to, in this case, Scotland to be
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: interviewed and possibly tried. Not every country would have an
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: extradition agreement.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: I knew of people who ran to Spain and, you know,
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: through time and effort you can get them back. I
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: just hoped that they weren't in a place where I
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: couldn't access them.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: The detectives turn their attention to the suspect's international connections.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: When a suspect is being traced and flees the country,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: there will be intelligence work getting carried out in the background.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Who are the people that might be connected with these guys?
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: The first person we got information on, Faisal Mushlak, had
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: fled the country. We got brilliant CCTV footage of him
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: arriving at Manchester Airport The other two, we believe one
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: got the Eurotunnel to Paris and one took the ferry
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: and they had their relative in Paris who arranged for
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: them to get to Pakistan.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: The three outstanding suspects have successfully fled the country. But
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: for Danish Zahid and Zahid Mohammed, the trial begins, nine
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: months after the murder of Chris Donald.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: So they go to trial and they just blame the
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: other three, who by this time are in another country.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: The prosecution has a strong forensic case against both Danish
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Zahid and Zahid Mohammed. Their digital footprints show all five
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: suspects together from before 3pm on the afternoon of the abduction.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: But then at Strathclyde Park, Zahid's phone separates from the pack.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: He had to return home to adhere to his security
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: tag curfew.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: He had to be in the house, I believe, by
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: 7 o'clock. And if he didn't, then that would set
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: off alarms. and their defence could prove it wasn't there
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: when the murder was committed.
• 34:29
  Speaker 9: Saheed Mohammed admitted abducting Chris Donald. He was in the
• 34:33
  Speaker 9: car on the night that they set out to find
• 34:35
  Speaker 9: and kill a white boy.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: The evidence against Danish Saheed is heard.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Danish tried to say that when the murder was taking
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: place he was sitting in the car and he saw nothing.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: He just saw a big flash of flame and he
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: didn't get out of the car.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Danish admitted he was in the passenger seat and forensic
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: evidence implies that the fatal wounds to Chris happened within
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: his eyeline, indicating that Danish was privy to the crime.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: The jury found Danish Zahid guilty of racially motivated murder.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: He was sentenced to 17 years in prison.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: It is in Scottish legal history now that it was
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: the first conviction for a racially motivated murder. I remember
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: being congratulated by a member of the media... I refused
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: their congratulations because that was the job just half done
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: because the other three were flaunting Scottish justice.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: In order to get justice for Chris Donald's family, Elliot
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: would have to rewrite Scottish history and extradite the three
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: remaining suspects from Pakistan.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: I started this massive dynamic intelligence operation trying to work
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: out where they were in a country of in excess
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: of 165 million people. We were looking for three. One
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: of the most demanding murder investigations Scotland's ever seen.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Strathclyde Police are investigating the murder of Chris Donald. He
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: was abducted by five Asian men in a gangland retaliation.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Two men have been convicted for their involvement, but three
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: suspects have fled to Pakistan.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: If there is no extradition agreement in place in a country,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: you are relying on diplomacy, convincing politicians in the other
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: country that it is in their interests for this person
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: to be essentially, forcibly extradited.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: We had applied to Pakistan. We had a big meeting
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: with Interpol, the head of intelligence, the head of investigations,
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: outlined what evidence we had and why it was so
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: important to get these three individuals back from Pakistan to
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: face UK and Scottish justice and convince them that we
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: could help them to find three people in a country
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: of 165 million. It was the first time it was
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: agreed then Scotland was going to crack on with this
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: What was going to be key to this inquiry was
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: going to be mobile telephones.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: The suspects are using new phones in Pakistan. So the
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: police turn to the men's associates in Scotland to help
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: establish their digital footprints.
• 37:32
  Speaker 10: One of the things we were doing in Scotland was
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: obviously opening up, having news in terms of people who
• 37:39
  Speaker 10: were willing to speak to us, on the record or
• 37:42
  Speaker 10: off the record, what they tell us, and to evidence that.
• 37:47
  Speaker 8: Either no may be seen as a breach of the loyalty.
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: Korea criminals did give evidence to assist the police authorities,
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: and that may have been because of the gravity and
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: the severity of the violence. The characteristics of the victim,
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: being a young, small schoolboy, may have also encouraged people
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: to want to give evidence since it was against the
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: code of the gangs.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: I remember one of the witnesses telling me that He
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: couldn't live with himself because what they did to that
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: boy stepped out of their code, way out of their code.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: And with the cooperation of the people who'd received the calls,
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: they gave the vital evidence of the timeline that we needed.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: The more communications that the police can verify with the
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: suspects' associates, the closer they're getting to locating them.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: They did eventually trace him. He was told he was
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: a remote village in the Punjab. One or two were there,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: and we confirmed it was Imran Shahid. We'd been warned
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: that there was a chance that they might escape, and
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: that came from Pakistani authorities. They had found out he
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: was going to a meeting somewhere, and it was then
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: a case of biding our time and waiting to see
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: what was going to happen.
• 39:18
  Speaker 9: A landmark day for Scottish police. Pakistani authorities have arrested
• 39:23
  Speaker 9: the three remaining suspects in the murder of Chris Donald.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Delighted, I have to say. There was a realisation that
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: the mammoth tasks that lay in front of us not
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: all went to plan. It was quite stressful.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: There was a complicated extradition process. Trying to convince them
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: in what might be a politically difficult situation that this
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: merits the effectively enforced extradition.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Three months after the arrest, Strathclyde Police finally received the
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: monumental confirmation.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Eventually, the extradition was granted. The words were something like,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: we feel we should surrender these people to the UK
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: and hand them over to the representative of the Scottish Police,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: which was myself. And it was very tense at the airport,
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: bringing them out as well, the exchange of prisoners and
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: the exchange of some of the evidence that was there.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: The long-awaited trial finally begins at the High Court in Edinburgh.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: That was the first time I was allowed myself into
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: the court, was to see the sentences and I was
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: staring at the jury looking for some form of connection
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: and I just couldn't get it. I have to say
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: I was as nervous as I've ever been in my
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: life because for me, one not proven out of those
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: three would have been disaster.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: The case is heard and the jury has reached a verdict.
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: Guilty and jailed for 25 years, Imran Shahid, a sadistic
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: thug and bully, defiant to the end. He was the
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: ringleader who sought out a white victim to attack, the
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: man who chose Chris Donald. Guilty too, his brother Zeeshan,
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: his arrogance undiminished by a 23-year sentence. To the end,
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: laughing in the face of his victim's family, who watched
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: from above. And for their accomplice Faisal Mustak, 22 years,
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: his violent nature on display still to the baying crowd.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: Chris's mother and his sister wept in the gallery as
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: the jury delivered its three guilty verdicts.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Very emotional. It was just time to reflect. But that
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: job was done. Definitely no feeling of elation, just justice
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: has been done. And a very warm glow that it had.
• 42:14
  Speaker 11: Been done We would like to offer our sincere appreciation
• 42:18
  Speaker 11: for the dedication that has been shown by Detective Superintendent
• 42:21
  Speaker 11: Ellie McKenzie and all of the officers who worked on
• 42:24
  Speaker 11: the inquiry into the hellish murder of my son Chris.
• 42:29
  Speaker 11: Justice has been done. Thank you. It is over.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Some cases stick in the memory. Any professional, any forensic
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: scientist will have a a small number of cases that
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: they will have very powerful memories about. And it was
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: over two and a half years before the five men
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: were ultimately convicted of four of them of murder and
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: one of racially motivated abduction. In terms of the kind
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: of murders that goes on in Scotland, this is a
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: canonical offence. It's an offence that will always have some place...
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: in the history of murder in Scotland.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: That there is no greater responsibility given to man than
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: to investigate the murder of another human being. We're still
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: talking about Chris 17 years later. We're approaching the 20th
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: year anniversary of Chris's death. It has to be something
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: really powerful, really, really powerful for that to happen.