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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from HowStuffWorks dot com.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's
- 0:13Speaker 2: Charles w Chuck Bryant. Jerry's over there. Chuck's wearing a hat,
- 0:17Speaker 2: so it stuff you should know. Yeah, still still pretty sad?
- 0:22Speaker 1: Yeah? Are you really sure?
- 0:25Speaker 2: All right, Pete?
- 0:26Speaker 1: You know what I'm getting? The Josh is referencing my
- 0:29Speaker 1: last chance garage hat that I've talked way too much about.
- 0:32Speaker 1: I'm getting the patch remade as we speak. Whoa, I actually.
- 0:36Speaker 3: Found one an eBay that had been sold three months ago,
- 0:40Speaker 3: and he's all a big conspiracy.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Is that right? No?
- 0:43Speaker 1: Okay, but I found.
- 0:45Speaker 3: A picture of the patch that I sent to a
- 0:46Speaker 3: patchmaker who like, can digitally reproduce this thing?
- 0:50Speaker 2: Nice man.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Well, then I got to find in the right hat.
- 0:53Speaker 2: It's coming back home. Well that's step one. That's a
- 0:55Speaker 2: big step one.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm getting a few patches and a few hats
- 0:58Speaker 1: this time.
- 0:58Speaker 2: I think that's a good idea. Yeah, you can name
- 1:00Speaker 2: them one through eight.
- 1:01Speaker 1: That's right.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Let's see, Chuck, you worked in the film industry previously.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Yeah, so did you? Technically?
- 1:10Speaker 2: Yeah, you did more than I did by far. You
- 1:15Speaker 2: worked it in front of and behind the camera.
- 1:17Speaker 1: That's right.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Did you ever work with a steady cam at all?
- 1:21Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 1:21Speaker 2: So like you've seen these things up close?
- 1:24Speaker 1: Yep.
- 1:24Speaker 2: I don't recall Scott or anybody using one.
- 1:27Speaker 1: We did not have one on our show.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Okay, they're expensive, Okay, but I mean there's some pretty
- 1:32Speaker 2: good equipment on set. It seemed like sure, but there
- 1:35Speaker 2: was no steady cam right, Nope, because I was trying
- 1:37Speaker 2: to recall and I could not, for the life of
- 1:40Speaker 2: me remember a moment when there was an awesome like
- 1:43Speaker 2: extendo arm camera with like all of the components exploded
- 1:47Speaker 2: out into different parts of a polly that.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Didn't hapen because he would have walked in and said,
- 1:50Speaker 1: what's that? Right? And everyone would have laughed, and you
- 1:53Speaker 1: would have been like, why does everyone make fun of me?
- 1:55Speaker 1: Would all this stuff? Now?
- 1:59Speaker 3: We never is one on our TV show for Science
- 2:02Speaker 3: Chowl because, like I said, it's pricey to rent, and
- 2:05Speaker 3: this is a bit of a giveaway, but a person
- 2:08Speaker 3: steadycam operator comes with the package, right, with all the equipment.
- 2:13Speaker 1: It's a lot of times their own, and it's you know,
- 2:17Speaker 1: it's pricey, yeah, to pay for that lady or that dude.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Right, But the reason it is price is because it's
- 2:26Speaker 2: it has a really good effect. Yeah, and the person
- 2:29Speaker 2: who's doing it really knows what they're doing. Yeah, I
- 2:33Speaker 2: don't know, but just from researching this, it seemed like
- 2:36Speaker 2: they were probably the most skilled trades person on the
- 2:40Speaker 2: set at any given time when they were on the set.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Is that right?
- 2:43Speaker 1: Well, I think it's just a matter of what skill.
- 2:46Speaker 1: It's just a different skill.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Are they like the highest echelon of camera operators.
- 2:50Speaker 1: No, it's just different.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Okay, like a top niche Yeah, okay, I got it.
- 2:54Speaker 3: But but you don't just wade into steadycam and start
- 2:58Speaker 3: getting worked the next day. It does take a lot
- 3:00Speaker 3: of work to master. But like a good dolly grip
- 3:04Speaker 3: is just as skilled, right at just pushing that thing around,
- 3:08Speaker 3: But that takes.
- 3:09Speaker 2: A very non herky jerky Well it's not.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Gonna heirckey jerky anyway, but just to hit the marks
- 3:14Speaker 3: right and oh I see yeah, I mean all that
- 3:16Speaker 3: stuff takes a great amount of skill.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about this because STEADI camp, you know,
- 3:20Speaker 2: when I came of age, was already invented. It was
- 3:23Speaker 2: it was basically became commercially available the year I was born,
- 3:26Speaker 2: So I don't really know a world prior to STEADI Camp.
- 3:30Speaker 2: I've never seen a movie that came out before nineteen
- 3:32Speaker 2: seventy six. Funny, and I'm just used to it, right, Yeah,
- 3:37Speaker 2: but it's interesting to look back and see that there
- 3:40Speaker 2: actually is a point in time where this one dude
- 3:43Speaker 2: who was actually kind of an outsider of the movie
- 3:46Speaker 2: business basically changed it permanently forever for sure. Yeah.
- 3:53Speaker 1: His name was Garrett Brown. Is Garrett Brown.
- 3:56Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still around right, Yeah.
- 3:58Speaker 3: And he was working for well, he was working in
- 4:01Speaker 3: TV commercials on Sesame Street in Philadelphia.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Yeah, and he.
- 4:08Speaker 3: Got a little frustrated, as camera people do pre steady CAM,
- 4:13Speaker 3: with not being able to accomplish certain shots.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Yeah, there's supposedly there were thirty impossible shots that just
- 4:21Speaker 2: based on the equipment of the day, you just couldn't
- 4:24Speaker 2: do right.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Well, and a lot of it had to do with
- 4:28Speaker 2: like rough terrain. Sure, staircases were a big one. Yeah,
- 4:31Speaker 2: and the recent these shots were impossible. It's not like
- 4:33Speaker 2: you couldn't lug a camera around up and down the stairs,
- 4:36Speaker 2: but the movement that the camera recorded would be so
- 4:38Speaker 2: jarring that it would render the film like that it
- 4:42Speaker 2: would be unusable.
- 4:43Speaker 3: Yeah, and this was in a day before I mean
- 4:46Speaker 3: there were shaky cam shots and like Cassavettis and all
- 4:49Speaker 3: these early indie filmmakers did a lot of like avant
- 4:53Speaker 3: garde handheld stuff, but it was known as avant garde
- 4:55Speaker 3: right cause it looked different and people were used to
- 4:59Speaker 3: kind of smoother looking things in mainstream movies at the time.
- 5:02Speaker 2: Yeah, it had like a real phrenetic energy to it, Yeah,
- 5:05Speaker 2: which you see all the time now.
- 5:07Speaker 1: It's like a bona fide thing.
- 5:08Speaker 2: But it wasn't just like picking up the movements of
- 5:11Speaker 2: the camera. It was like telegraphing them as far as
- 5:15Speaker 2: the human brain's concerned, because we take it for granted,
- 5:18Speaker 2: but we have in our own brains a pretty complex
- 5:21Speaker 2: system that involves the inner ear coordinating with the movement
- 5:26Speaker 2: of the retina so that it offsets the movement and
- 5:30Speaker 2: the motion and the jarring impact of like just walking. Like,
- 5:36Speaker 2: if we didn't have that, we wouldn't be able to
- 5:38Speaker 2: focus on anything while we were moving around.
- 5:40Speaker 3: Yeah, people wouldn't jog, They would get sick and vomit
- 5:43Speaker 3: every time they.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Job exactly right, and you certainly wouldn't be able to
- 5:46Speaker 2: read US magazine while you were jogging or something like that.
- 5:48Speaker 2: The fact that you can it really is, it really
- 5:52Speaker 2: shows how incredibly complex and well developed the system is. Right. Yes,
- 5:57Speaker 2: that's what the steady cam that Garrett Brown created sought
- 6:02Speaker 2: to recreate and he did it. He nailed it like
- 6:04Speaker 2: on the first time out. Basically.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Yeah, because we mentioned a dolly.
- 6:08Speaker 3: That is people that know film know this stuff is
- 6:11Speaker 3: like pretty rudimentary information. But a lot of people don't
- 6:14Speaker 3: know what a dolly is. And they see the word
- 6:16Speaker 3: dolly grip in a movie, they just think it sounds funny.
- 6:19Speaker 3: But the dolly is how you typically would get a
- 6:21Speaker 3: smooth shot. It's just a big, super super heavy sled
- 6:26Speaker 3: with wheels that the camera sits on and the camera
- 6:29Speaker 3: operator sits on, and it's either on a very smooth floor,
- 6:33Speaker 3: it's on a piece of track.
- 6:34Speaker 1: Like a little railroad car.
- 6:36Speaker 3: And it pushes along and that's how you get those
- 6:38Speaker 3: nice smooth shots.
- 6:39Speaker 2: So that's a dolly. The problem with the dolly is
- 6:41Speaker 2: is you can't really lay that track over a rocky
- 6:45Speaker 2: terrain if you're filming on Mars or something like that.
- 6:48Speaker 3: No, and like you said, you can't push it up
- 6:51Speaker 3: and downstairs. It just had its limitations, right, it did.
- 6:53Speaker 2: So Garrett Brown said, I'm sick of these limitations. I'm
- 6:56Speaker 2: so tired of being limited by Dolly, stupid Dolly. I'm
- 7:00Speaker 2: going to invent something better. And so he tinkered around
- 7:05Speaker 2: with his what was called the Brown Stabilizer at first, Yeah,
- 7:09Speaker 2: which he later renamed the steady Cam. Yeah, and to
- 7:12Speaker 2: show off, like at first he was just using him
- 7:16Speaker 2: in commercials, and he was like, this is way bigger
- 7:19Speaker 2: than just commercials. Yeah, I'm going to make a sizzle reel.
- 7:22Speaker 2: And he made a sizzle reel of the thirty impossible
- 7:25Speaker 2: shots that you just couldn't do before, and he did
- 7:28Speaker 2: it with the steady cam, but he didn't show how
- 7:30Speaker 2: it was done.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can.
- 7:33Speaker 3: He was able to save ten of those shots and
- 7:37Speaker 3: digitize them, and a couple of years ago he finally
- 7:39Speaker 3: released online ten of those so you can actually go
- 7:42Speaker 3: see this original reel.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty cool.
- 7:45Speaker 2: His wife and his best friend like just doing stuff,
- 7:48Speaker 2: while just doing stuff, like you know, like one of
- 7:50Speaker 2: them was swimming. You can't run alongside somebody swimming apparently
- 7:54Speaker 2: was an impossible shot. I'm not quite sure why.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Well, you just couldn't run alongside someone doing anything.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Oh, okay, that's what it was.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Even with a.
- 8:01Speaker 3: Dolly Well, no, you could have. You could have laid
- 8:05Speaker 3: dolly track down the length of a swimming pool shirt.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Right, That's why I didn't understand that one was an
- 8:09Speaker 2: impossible shot. But to show off, he goes question, he
- 8:13Speaker 2: goes around a slide.
- 8:17Speaker 3: Just to kind of show maybe maybe that was the
- 8:19Speaker 3: impossibility of it.
- 8:20Speaker 2: But then his buddy gets out of the pool and
- 8:22Speaker 2: like walking like he pivots around him. And I'm sure
- 8:26Speaker 2: when he put this reel together and he sent it out,
- 8:28Speaker 2: the directors are like, this is magic sorcery.
- 8:33Speaker 1: Well, it was mind blowing.
- 8:34Speaker 3: And some people say it was the first viral video
- 8:38Speaker 3: because it was shared around Hollywood literally in a matter
- 8:41Speaker 3: of days. Everybody in Hollywood was saying what in the world,
- 8:46Speaker 3: Like you said, what is this sorcery?
- 8:48Speaker 2: Right?
- 8:48Speaker 1: This Garrett Brown has bestowed upon us?
- 8:50Speaker 2: Yeah, it's It was a bit of a mic drop
- 8:52Speaker 2: as far as that reel goes.
- 8:54Speaker 3: And Stanley Kubrick being Stanley Kubrick sent a message to
- 8:58Speaker 3: Garrett Brown that said, if you are really concerned about
- 9:02Speaker 3: protecting its design before you fully patent it, I suggest
- 9:05Speaker 3: you delete the two occasions on the reel where the
- 9:07Speaker 3: shadow on the ground gives the skilled counter intelligence photo
- 9:10Speaker 3: interpreter a fairly clear representation of a man holding a
- 9:13Speaker 3: pole with one hand, with something or other at the
- 9:15Speaker 3: bottom of the pole, which appears to.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Be slowly moving.
- 9:18Speaker 3: All of that is Stanley Kubrickian for Hey, there's a
- 9:22Speaker 3: shadow in one of your shots.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Of the steady.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Camopea, which is pretty cool of him to do. Sure,
- 9:29Speaker 2: because I'm sure there were plenty of people in Hollywood
- 9:31Speaker 2: who would have been like, Okay, I think I kind
- 9:33Speaker 2: of get the idea of what this was, because there
- 9:36Speaker 2: was no suggestion whatsoever of what Garrett Brown had used
- 9:40Speaker 2: to get these shots except in those shadows. So he
- 9:43Speaker 2: went and went and immediately cut those, yeah, those I
- 9:47Speaker 2: think fourteen seconds out of his reel, and then released
- 9:49Speaker 2: the second edition.
- 9:50Speaker 1: And it looked pretty good.
- 9:52Speaker 3: I mean, it's rough compared to today's standard, sure, but
- 9:55Speaker 3: for the time it was like unbelievable, right.
- 9:58Speaker 2: It changed everything. Oh yeah, and one of the shots
- 10:02Speaker 2: that he got was his wife Ellen. He said, dear,
- 10:07Speaker 2: why don't you put on your most seventies bell bottoms
- 10:09Speaker 2: you can find and I'm going to run up behind you.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Is you run up the steps to the Philadelphia Museum
- 10:15Speaker 2: of Art, And maybe when you get to the top,
- 10:18Speaker 2: you can raise your hands in triumph and I will
- 10:22Speaker 2: spin around you. And if that shot sounds familiar, it
- 10:26Speaker 2: actually attracted a guy, a director named John what is
- 10:30Speaker 2: it avilds Son?
- 10:31Speaker 1: Yeah, John G.
- 10:32Speaker 2: Avelson, who said, I like this, I'm going to use
- 10:35Speaker 2: it in this little film I'm directing called Rocky.
- 10:37Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:38Speaker 2: And I didn't get whether or not this was the case.
- 10:41Speaker 2: But did they Did they locate Rocky in Philadelphia because
- 10:46Speaker 2: of those steps?
- 10:48Speaker 1: No?
- 10:48Speaker 2: Because he said, how did you do that? And where
- 10:51Speaker 2: are those steps?
- 10:53Speaker 3: I don't think so, man, because I wondered that too,
- 10:55Speaker 3: like like, did he not have a scene written where
- 10:58Speaker 3: Rocky just runs up those steps?
- 10:59Speaker 2: Right?
- 11:00Speaker 1: I mean Stallone wrote it. I think they al just
- 11:03Speaker 1: have to ask him.
- 11:04Speaker 2: Okay, hey, Sly, I was wondering if you yeah, that
- 11:09Speaker 2: was pretty good.
- 11:11Speaker 3: I answered in that little moment. Someone will have to
- 11:14Speaker 3: interpret that. Great movie though.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Man.
- 11:17Speaker 3: I rewatched that Yeah, like this year from beginning to end,
- 11:22Speaker 3: just phenomenal movie.
- 11:24Speaker 1: I'm trying to get Emily to watch it.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Has she never seen the original.
- 11:27Speaker 1: No, it's its own thing for sure.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Like it's not it's a boxing movies.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Really, it's a love story for the most part.
- 11:34Speaker 2: It's a love story and like the triumph of the
- 11:37Speaker 2: little guy. Yeah story for sure, Yeah, featuring boxing, right,
- 11:41Speaker 2: that's exactly right. Yeah, But two and three and on
- 11:45Speaker 2: on word it's like a totally different thing.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Yeah, but those were good too.
- 11:49Speaker 2: Yeah, they said, let's take your story, take out the
- 11:51Speaker 2: heart and insert cocaine.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Instead, insert mister t. I don't get the cocaine reference.
- 11:58Speaker 2: Oh, it's just the eighties and Hollywood got hands on sure,
- 12:02Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
- 12:02Speaker 1: I gotcha.
- 12:03Speaker 3: Uh yeah, that's a good question, though, I wonder about
- 12:06Speaker 3: that if he surely didn't remake it for Philadelphia just for.
- 12:10Speaker 2: That well, But the point is is Garrett Brown created
- 12:14Speaker 2: on this sizzle reel, the one of the most iconic
- 12:18Speaker 2: shots in filmmaking history, for sure, and he sent that
- 12:22Speaker 2: reel out and within that year, I believe nineteen seventy six,
- 12:26Speaker 2: three Major Motion Pictures hired him to operate his steady
- 12:30Speaker 2: camp for it. There was Rocky yep, there was what
- 12:34Speaker 2: was the one about Woody.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Guthrie Bound for Glory?
- 12:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that one came out first, so that
- 12:39Speaker 3: was the first actual like h and that one the
- 12:44Speaker 3: steady camop was Garrett Brown, I think for all these huh,
- 12:46Speaker 3: because he was the only guy that knew, he got
- 12:48Speaker 3: a lot of work early on.
- 12:49Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think I think the patent was still
- 12:51Speaker 2: pending until nineteen seventy seven, so I'm sure he'p the
- 12:54Speaker 2: thing out of everybody closed your eyes while I shoot this.
- 12:57Speaker 3: But on Bound for Glory, he was on a crane
- 13:00Speaker 3: even that lowered down, stepped off the crane, so people
- 13:05Speaker 3: had seen crane shots, but then for the crane to
- 13:07Speaker 3: go down, down, down, and then all of a sudden
- 13:09Speaker 3: start following this guy, everyone was like what in the
- 13:11Speaker 3: word right?
- 13:11Speaker 2: There would have been a cut, yeah, after the crane stopped,
- 13:14Speaker 2: and then before you know, they would cut and he
- 13:17Speaker 2: would have gotten a position and then started up again.
- 13:19Speaker 2: This is one smooth shot.
- 13:20Speaker 1: One smooth shot yeah.
- 13:21Speaker 2: And then the other one was Marathon Man, So.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Another great right out of the blue.
- 13:25Speaker 2: This guy who was a commercial director and made short
- 13:27Speaker 2: films for Sestame Street changed filmmaking like single handedly.
- 13:32Speaker 3: Yeah, and won an Academy Award nineteen seventy eight for
- 13:35Speaker 3: Technical achievement, got that patent in seventy seven, and.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Well, that's it. That's the history of the steady.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Gam that's it. Everyboding good night.
- 13:46Speaker 3: But we're gonna should we take a break and tell
- 13:48Speaker 3: everyone how this thing works.
- 13:49Speaker 2: Let's do it man, all right, Chuck? So the STUDI CAAMP.
- 14:08Speaker 2: Do you remember when we did our episode on breathalyzers.
- 14:11Speaker 1: Oh boy, that was a long time ago, and we.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Found out that the breathalyzer is one of the most
- 14:15Speaker 2: complicated machines. Yeah, on the planet.
- 14:19Speaker 1: I kind of hated that one.
- 14:20Speaker 2: Like there were crystals involved somehow. I hated that one too,
- 14:24Speaker 2: dark crystals. This is a bit like that, Like if
- 14:29Speaker 2: you really dive into steticams, like this article on how
- 14:32Speaker 2: stuff works does it's it's it's labyrinthine talk about the
- 14:36Speaker 2: dark crystal. Yeah, we're talking labyrinth instead.
- 14:39Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:39Speaker 3: But we're gonna simplify it because you don't need to
- 14:42Speaker 3: break this thing apart and look at every component like
- 14:44Speaker 3: this article does.
- 14:46Speaker 2: I mean it really gets involved.
- 14:48Speaker 3: What you should do is look at a picture of
- 14:49Speaker 3: someone operating one. Yeah, and just because when you look
- 14:53Speaker 3: at it, you go it all makes a lot more sense.
- 14:55Speaker 2: Right, And there's really just three main parts to the
- 14:58Speaker 2: whole thing. There's a vest, there's an arm that's attached
- 15:01Speaker 2: to the vest, and then the other end of the
- 15:03Speaker 2: arm is attached to what's called the sled, yeah, which
- 15:06Speaker 2: is what the camera and its components are mounted on. Right.
- 15:09Speaker 3: Yeah, and that arm, I mean just picture yourself wearing
- 15:13Speaker 3: a like a baby Bjorn baby carrier, except for instead
- 15:19Speaker 3: of the baby at your sternum, there's a mechanical arm
- 15:23Speaker 3: coming out.
- 15:23Speaker 2: Like a spring arm lamp.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Yeah, like accordion arm or a spring arm lamp.
- 15:28Speaker 2: Right, And it's virtually the same thing.
- 15:30Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and guess who made one of these by
- 15:33Speaker 3: himself before they started making them for at home people.
- 15:36Speaker 2: Who? Casey? Who?
- 15:38Speaker 1: My brother? Of course?
- 15:39Speaker 2: Oh? Did he really? Yeah?
- 15:40Speaker 3: Yeah, my brother made one of these in like the
- 15:42Speaker 3: early nineties out of door hinges and rubber bands and springs.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Does he still have it? Is it in the Smithsonian?
- 15:49Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 15:50Speaker 3: It's in the Scotsonian, which is where all his early mentions.
- 15:54Speaker 2: With all his pinball machines.
- 15:55Speaker 1: Yeah, but he made one. He basically did the same thing.
- 15:58Speaker 3: He looked at it and looked at these swing arm lamps, right,
- 16:01Speaker 3: and accordion arm lamps, and it's like, well, it's the
- 16:04Speaker 3: same thing.
- 16:04Speaker 1: I'll just make a version of that.
- 16:06Speaker 2: It is, and it worked pretty good. It's virtually the
- 16:08Speaker 2: same thing.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 16:08Speaker 2: So the whole point of a steady cam is that
- 16:11Speaker 2: it basically stimulates or the arm at least simulates a
- 16:15Speaker 2: human arm right to where it can move around very easily. Yeah,
- 16:19Speaker 2: And it redistributes the weight of the camera, which can
- 16:22Speaker 2: be up to like seventy pounds I imagine probably more.
- 16:24Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole unit is pretty heavy, and it's not
- 16:27Speaker 3: easy to operate.
- 16:28Speaker 1: But it'll hold a wear you out.
- 16:29Speaker 2: It holds it effortlessly, and it holds it in place.
- 16:32Speaker 2: This arm does and it does it by using springs.
- 16:35Speaker 2: And you can adjust the tension of the springs by
- 16:37Speaker 2: using a cable and pulley system. Yes, so that it
- 16:40Speaker 2: offsets the balance of the camera and holds it in
- 16:43Speaker 2: space in front of the camera operator basically so that
- 16:47Speaker 2: they can move it effortlessly up down to the side.
- 16:51Speaker 2: You can put the camera on top of the sled
- 16:54Speaker 2: so that you get high shots. You can switch it
- 16:56Speaker 2: so it goes on the bottom so you can get
- 16:57Speaker 2: low angle shots.
- 16:58Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 16:59Speaker 3: The traditional it's called high mode and low mode and
- 17:01Speaker 3: high mode is it doesn't mean it's high, it just
- 17:04Speaker 3: means it's on the top.
- 17:05Speaker 1: Of the unit.
- 17:07Speaker 3: And then low mode is when it's on the bottom.
- 17:08Speaker 3: So if you wanted to film a mouse running across
- 17:11Speaker 3: the floor, you would put.
- 17:12Speaker 1: It in low mode, right. If you want to film
- 17:14Speaker 1: a human, you put it in high mode.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Yeah. And the camera itself is broken out into pieces,
- 17:19Speaker 2: which is kind of an ingenious trick that I guess
- 17:22Speaker 2: Garrett Brown came up with himself. I think he did.
- 17:26Speaker 2: And this is the third part. The camera slid right.
- 17:31Speaker 1: Yes, the slid is what holds all the equipment.
- 17:33Speaker 2: Right, And it's basically a pole with a little bit
- 17:36Speaker 2: at the top called the stage. Yeah, and that's where
- 17:40Speaker 2: the camera goes, or it could be at the bottom
- 17:42Speaker 2: wherever the camera is. The camera's mounted to the stage.
- 17:45Speaker 1: Yes.
- 17:45Speaker 2: Then you get the pole itself and then the I
- 17:49Speaker 2: guess the arm is connected to the pole by a gibble,
- 17:54Speaker 2: a gimbal. A gimbal, that's right. And it's like an
- 17:57Speaker 2: old technology. It's basically sure something that uses base gyroscopic
- 18:01Speaker 2: action to take the movement of whatever is seeking to move,
- 18:07Speaker 2: whatever you want to hold still and getting rid of
- 18:09Speaker 2: it Yeah, like everything around it moves except for the
- 18:11Speaker 2: thing that you want to hold still.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty neat.
- 18:14Speaker 2: It's super neat. And that's just the one arm that's
- 18:16Speaker 2: connected to the pole. Yes, So you can see how
- 18:19Speaker 2: complicated this thing is. That this guy sat back and
- 18:22Speaker 2: I think in a hotel room somewhere he put it together.
- 18:25Speaker 2: Garrett Brown, the first one. There's just the ingenuity it
- 18:28Speaker 2: took to put this together. It's pretty pretty in depth
- 18:33Speaker 2: as far as inventions go.
- 18:34Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a little science to it. There's something
- 18:37Speaker 3: called moment of inertia. It's basically how much that camera
- 18:41Speaker 3: is resistant to rotation. So if you want the camera
- 18:44Speaker 3: to be still, you want to increase that resistance to
- 18:46Speaker 3: the rotation. And this is determined by a couple of
- 18:49Speaker 3: different things. How much mass there is to the object,
- 18:53Speaker 3: and how far that mass is the from its own
- 18:56Speaker 3: axis of rotation. So by spreading the camera out, he
- 18:59Speaker 3: basically took the cameras come with a monitor now, so
- 19:02Speaker 3: you can see what's going on in a big heavy battery.
- 19:05Speaker 3: He took the monitor off of the camera, He took
- 19:07Speaker 3: the battery off of the camera and redistributed that up
- 19:10Speaker 3: and down the pole. So what he ended up doing
- 19:13Speaker 3: was spreading out that mass, which takes away the center
- 19:18Speaker 3: of gravity from the camera itself.
- 19:19Speaker 2: Yeah, because like with a regular camera, where all the
- 19:22Speaker 2: components are in one single unit, that center of gravity
- 19:24Speaker 2: is inside the camera. Yeah, so it's easy to rotate.
- 19:27Speaker 2: But since he exploded it out into its various components,
- 19:31Speaker 2: he made that center of gravity land somewhere on the pole, right,
- 19:35Speaker 2: and the gimbal attaches to the pole just above the
- 19:38Speaker 2: center of gravity, so that the camera operator holds the
- 19:41Speaker 2: pole and manipulates the camera at the center of gravity,
- 19:45Speaker 2: which makes it very easy to balance keep balance.
- 19:48Speaker 1: Yeah, And they do a good job in this article.
- 19:50Speaker 3: If you'd like, just take a broomstick and you find
- 19:53Speaker 3: that center of gravity with your finger. You can hold
- 19:55Speaker 3: it with your finger and lift it up and down.
- 19:57Speaker 2: Right, and it just it's balanced on your finger be
- 20:00Speaker 2: you're hitting that center of balance.
- 20:01Speaker 1: That's right. It's the same principle. Yeah. And in fact,
- 20:04Speaker 1: if you took.
- 20:07Speaker 3: If you took that same broomstick and cut it off
- 20:09Speaker 3: and you just had three feet of broomstick and just
- 20:12Speaker 3: took your SLR camera and screwed that broomstick into the
- 20:16Speaker 3: bottom of your camera, instead of a.
- 20:18Speaker 1: Tripod that would function.
- 20:20Speaker 3: You could walk around with that and it would be
- 20:22Speaker 3: steadier than if you just had it in your hand.
- 20:25Speaker 2: I could see that because of the change of the
- 20:27Speaker 2: center of gravity.
- 20:28Speaker 3: Change of the center of gravity, and if you put
- 20:30Speaker 3: a little counterweight at the bottom, it would make it
- 20:31Speaker 3: even more steady. And that's the whole concept of the
- 20:34Speaker 3: steady cam sled. Then attach that to an arm, that
- 20:39Speaker 3: accordion arm, and you're cooking with gas.
- 20:42Speaker 2: Yeah, because you were saying, like if you walk around
- 20:44Speaker 2: with just the pole holding or the broomstick, cut off
- 20:46Speaker 2: broomstick and you're holding it just with your hand, Yeah,
- 20:51Speaker 2: it's steady. The point of the arm is it's taking
- 20:53Speaker 2: your hand out of the equation and replacing it with
- 20:56Speaker 2: something that can isolate movement even more. Yeah, so that
- 21:00Speaker 2: your movement of you walking just gets lost within the
- 21:04Speaker 2: arm before it ever gets to the camera and could
- 21:06Speaker 2: shake it.
- 21:07Speaker 3: Yeah, like if you did it with a broomstick. Your
- 21:09Speaker 3: arm is the same thing as a steady camra.
- 21:11Speaker 2: Right, it's better if the steadycam arms.
- 21:13Speaker 1: Is better than your human arm, right, yes, exactly.
- 21:16Speaker 2: Pretty neat stuff. It is neat stuff, And I think
- 21:20Speaker 2: that's it for the science man. We made it through it.
- 21:23Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's all got to be very precisely balanced.
- 21:26Speaker 3: You don't just throw the stuff on the pole, willy
- 21:28Speaker 3: nilly no.
- 21:29Speaker 2: And they point out that the balance of the camera
- 21:31Speaker 2: can actually change during filming. Yeah, just from the film
- 21:35Speaker 2: moving from one end to the camera to the other
- 21:37Speaker 2: as it records.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Right.
- 21:38Speaker 3: Well, yeah, in the old days when they use film, sure,
- 21:41Speaker 3: nowadays it's just that digital card.
- 21:43Speaker 1: Yeah, well not always.
- 21:45Speaker 2: Quinn Tarantino's camera operators have to deal with this.
- 21:48Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you've ever been on a job with
- 21:49Speaker 3: a steady cam, there are a lot of there's a
- 21:52Speaker 3: lot of breaks where I mean you can adjust them
- 21:54Speaker 3: on the fly more now, but I remember there just
- 21:57Speaker 3: being a lot of breaks with a steadycam. Up would
- 21:59Speaker 3: say hold on, you know, I need five minutes, and
- 22:02Speaker 3: they go over and they have a little stand that
- 22:04Speaker 3: they put it on to take because you know, it
- 22:07Speaker 3: takes the weight off to a certain degree, but it's
- 22:09Speaker 3: still a lot of weight to be.
- 22:10Speaker 1: Carrying on a vest on your chest.
- 22:12Speaker 2: Yeah, and running and moving and doing all sorts of stuff.
- 22:16Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough gig.
- 22:18Speaker 2: Like there's a pretty amazing video. Did you watch it
- 22:20Speaker 2: of that Eurovision shot. No, there's a guy from I
- 22:24Speaker 2: think Baylarus singing and they shot they showed him like
- 22:28Speaker 2: he's like they they showed the shot and then they
- 22:31Speaker 2: showed what somebody filming the shot being done. And the
- 22:36Speaker 2: guy with the SAIDI cam wearing the vest rides down
- 22:39Speaker 2: the aisle on a segue.
- 22:42Speaker 1: Is that what he's on?
- 22:43Speaker 2: Yeah, hops off, runs up this ramp and then starts
- 22:46Speaker 2: circling around the guy who's singing, And it's a pretty
- 22:50Speaker 2: amazing thing. It's a great shot. But then when you
- 22:53Speaker 2: see how it's done, Yeah, wow, that guy deserved a
- 22:56Speaker 2: standing ovation.
- 22:57Speaker 3: It would have been more impressive hit it not like
- 23:00Speaker 3: the subject matter have been more interested in the video quality,
- 23:03Speaker 3: but better pretty bad, Like if it was a Scorsese movie,
- 23:05Speaker 3: you'd be like, wow, sure, but it was this you know,
- 23:08Speaker 3: kind of corny. Well, I mean it looked like an
- 23:10Speaker 3: American idol or.
- 23:11Speaker 2: Something it was, but it was American idol. If you
- 23:15Speaker 2: took American idol at its peak and then spread it
- 23:18Speaker 2: out over Eurasia and like it was popular over that
- 23:23Speaker 2: that large of a population, that's what Eurovision is.
- 23:27Speaker 1: That's right.
- 23:28Speaker 2: So you want to talk about some of the shots
- 23:30Speaker 2: when we come back after a break please, okay, all right,
- 23:50Speaker 2: so Chuck. In addition to that Rocky shot and that
- 23:53Speaker 2: Eurovision shot, there are some other very famous shots, classic
- 23:58Speaker 2: shots of all time. Yeah, that had to do with
- 24:02Speaker 2: steady cam. It couldn't have been done without steady cam.
- 24:04Speaker 3: Well, The Shining is the first one that pops into
- 24:07Speaker 3: most people's minds because, like we said, Kubrick was a
- 24:11Speaker 3: big fan of this invention and immediately started talks with
- 24:15Speaker 3: Garrett Brown on how to help him out with this movie,
- 24:19Speaker 3: The Shining, that he was making. And apparently they kind
- 24:23Speaker 3: of battled one another quite a bit on the set
- 24:26Speaker 3: of The Shining, and Garrett Brown later admitted he said
- 24:28Speaker 3: a lot of that was probably what do you call it,
- 24:30Speaker 3: like inventor's pride or something kind of getting in the
- 24:34Speaker 3: way of this like brilliant all tour. So Kubrick already
- 24:38Speaker 3: had his own ideas on how to best use this
- 24:40Speaker 3: thing that this other guy invented. And you know the Shining,
- 24:44Speaker 3: classic example, those tricycle shots, the famous maze chase.
- 24:48Speaker 1: At the end, very iconic in motion picture history.
- 24:53Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean the how did they do? You know,
- 24:57Speaker 2: how they did that shot? Behind Danny and his little
- 24:59Speaker 2: big one.
- 25:01Speaker 1: They probably just went into low mode and.
- 25:03Speaker 2: Like walked behind him or yeah, ran down the.
- 25:05Speaker 1: Hall after him.
- 25:06Speaker 2: That's really impressive. Yeah, so the shining's a big one. Sure,
- 25:10Speaker 2: Rocky's a big one. Good Fellows is another classic example, too,
- 25:13Speaker 2: classic where Rayleioda and Lorraine Brocco are going into the
- 25:17Speaker 2: Copa Cabana, but they go through the back yeah, and
- 25:20Speaker 2: they're followed like throughout like the backstairs into the kitchen,
- 25:24Speaker 2: and then they finally come out into their table and
- 25:27Speaker 2: it's like one uninterrupted, like five minute shot or something.
- 25:31Speaker 3: It's amazing, and it's I think when you see this,
- 25:33Speaker 3: you're you might see it and not be a discerning
- 25:38Speaker 3: film viewer and just say, well that I didn't notice
- 25:40Speaker 3: anything right, which is probably good. Yeah, Or you might
- 25:43Speaker 3: be a fan and steady cam and just say, man,
- 25:45Speaker 3: that was amazing. U. Then you have to step back
- 25:48Speaker 3: and look at lighting and realize that how incredibly hard
- 25:51Speaker 3: it is to light a shot like that that takes
- 25:54Speaker 3: place over I don't know how many hundreds of feet.
- 25:57Speaker 2: Well without seeing the lights in the shot.
- 25:59Speaker 3: Well that or just consistent lighting and having it look good.
- 26:02Speaker 3: I mean, that's just Usually you light for like a
- 26:04Speaker 3: room or something, or a hallway, but to light all
- 26:08Speaker 3: those different rooms and hallways and just incredibly, I can't
- 26:11Speaker 3: imagine how long it took to set that up.
- 26:14Speaker 2: You know, they were like, wait, what do you want
- 26:15Speaker 2: to do.
- 26:16Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be great, worry about it, stay with me.
- 26:21Speaker 1: You know, he's making another gangster movie.
- 26:25Speaker 2: No, I didn't know that.
- 26:26Speaker 1: Yeah, and it may be like the.
- 26:30Speaker 3: Some folks are saying, it's like, you know, his last
- 26:31Speaker 3: big gangster movie, but it's got de Niro again. He
- 26:36Speaker 3: had worked with him in a long time. Paccino and
- 26:40Speaker 3: Joe pesci Is coming out of retirement.
- 26:42Speaker 2: I didn't even know he was retired. I just thought
- 26:44Speaker 2: he wasn't doing stuff anymo.
- 26:45Speaker 1: Man, he retired.
- 26:46Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
- 26:47Speaker 3: Yeah, so's he's got the three heavyweights and supposedly Harvey Cattail.
- 26:51Speaker 3: Of course you got to throw him in there. Sure,
- 26:53Speaker 3: But I'm just like giddy thinking about this.
- 26:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad he is because his last one was departed.
- 26:59Speaker 2: Right now.
- 27:00Speaker 3: He's made movies since then, like Wolf of Wall Street Gangster, Yeah,
- 27:04Speaker 3: which I thought was great.
- 27:05Speaker 1: I know you didn't love it. I thought it was awesome.
- 27:08Speaker 2: I thought everything. But what Jack Nicholson did was pretty good.
- 27:11Speaker 1: Yeah you didn't like his performance?
- 27:13Speaker 2: No, I really didn't. Well, sorry Jack, He'll.
- 27:17Speaker 3: Forgive that all right, because you like him as an actor, right, Yeah, okay,
- 27:23Speaker 3: does it gets come on Return of the Jedi nineteen
- 27:29Speaker 3: eighty three, the famous speeder bike chase scene and the indoor. Yeah,
- 27:37Speaker 3: California's Redwood National Park doubled his indoor and that was
- 27:41Speaker 3: Garrett Brown walking and they sped it up.
- 27:46Speaker 2: Yeah. But and then you're just like, wow, who cares.
- 27:49Speaker 2: The reason why it's such an iconic steady cam shot
- 27:53Speaker 2: is because he walked very slowly. Yeah, and when you
- 27:56Speaker 2: speed film up the tiny movements involved they're telegraphed, they
- 28:01Speaker 2: just become much more exaggerated.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 28:02Speaker 2: So without a setikam when they sped the film up again,
- 28:06Speaker 2: it would have been just so blurry and just jarring.
- 28:08Speaker 2: It would have been unusable.
- 28:09Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 28:09Speaker 2: The fact that you can see the trees and stuff,
- 28:12Speaker 2: and even at that high speed, it's all steady cam.
- 28:16Speaker 3: Yeah, and people, I think it's just so easy to
- 28:18Speaker 3: take it for granted now in movies when you see
- 28:20Speaker 3: these shots. But to pioneer these these things and this
- 28:23Speaker 3: equipment was remarkable. Yeah, and nowadays you can. They're all
- 28:30Speaker 3: manner of at home steady cam. You don't have to
- 28:33Speaker 3: do like my brother and build one out of spare
- 28:35Speaker 3: parts and door hinges.
- 28:37Speaker 1: No, you can buy one.
- 28:39Speaker 2: For not too much.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Yeah, you can.
- 28:41Speaker 3: You spend one hundred dollars, Yeah, on a decent enough
- 28:44Speaker 3: little home steady cam.
- 28:47Speaker 2: This article says that the steady cam curve, which was
- 28:51Speaker 2: made for GoPros, it was like one hundred bucks.
- 28:54Speaker 1: Yeah, well those are teeny tiny.
- 28:56Speaker 2: And there's one for the iPhone called what's it called
- 29:01Speaker 2: the Smoothie. That one is like it's like, I think
- 29:03Speaker 2: even less than one hundred bucks, and it's just like
- 29:06Speaker 2: a handheld camera stabilizer that works pretty well from what
- 29:09Speaker 2: I can gather.
- 29:10Speaker 3: Yeah, we should have had Casey, our video producer Casey.
- 29:12Speaker 3: He's in France right now though, live in the High.
- 29:15Speaker 1: Life, right you should We should have had.
- 29:17Speaker 3: Casey in here just given thumbs up her thumbs down
- 29:21Speaker 3: to each one of these brands of the mentioned and I.
- 29:24Speaker 1: Would trust that is like the gospel truth.
- 29:27Speaker 3: But Casey's not here, so we're just gonna say read
- 29:30Speaker 3: online reviews.
- 29:31Speaker 2: I also saw that there's like a lot of gimbal
- 29:35Speaker 2: based drone steady cams. Yeah that are just not that expensive.
- 29:42Speaker 1: Well, amazing they're changing the game again, sure, because then
- 29:45Speaker 1: you can.
- 29:46Speaker 3: Do a shot where you follow someone by the swimming
- 29:49Speaker 3: pool and then fly up into outer space with them
- 29:51Speaker 3: if you want, in one continuous motion.
- 29:54Speaker 2: Like the Cisp monster, the what the Cisp monster? You
- 29:58Speaker 2: remember the alien from Crisp Cereal? Uh?
- 30:00Speaker 1: I do remember Quisp?
- 30:01Speaker 2: Remember the weird alien?
- 30:03Speaker 1: Sort of? I didn't eat Quisp. Wasn't that a Captain
- 30:05Speaker 1: Crunch knock offer? Was it different?
- 30:08Speaker 2: It was different because they were saucer shaped rather than
- 30:11Speaker 2: square waffle cut gotcha? Same thing though, Yeah, same thing.
- 30:15Speaker 2: It was good. It didn't cut the tongue like Captain
- 30:18Speaker 2: Crunch did.
- 30:19Speaker 1: Yeah, the roof of the mouth. I'll suffer through that still.
- 30:23Speaker 3: Uh. And then of course Steatikam is a name brand,
- 30:27Speaker 3: right Seeing Eye Dog.
- 30:28Speaker 1: Yeah, it's made Uh who makes it?
- 30:31Speaker 2: Tiffin?
- 30:31Speaker 1: Tiffin?
- 30:32Speaker 2: Now that's what Yeah, I think I think Tiffin does.
- 30:35Speaker 2: They have a pretty good site, like if you are
- 30:37Speaker 2: at all interested in this, like, they've got a great
- 30:39Speaker 2: site and they have all of their steadycam models with
- 30:42Speaker 2: a real like in depth overview of them and yeah, pretty. Uh.
- 30:46Speaker 2: I think it's got all their manuals and everything just
- 30:48Speaker 2: right there for you to read.
- 30:49Speaker 3: Yeah, there's other companies making them. There's one called Glidecam
- 30:52Speaker 3: Embara Zoom.
- 30:54Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, Steadikam is still probably the giant.
- 30:57Speaker 1: It's like Dolly's.
- 30:57Speaker 3: There's only two Dolly Makers, well, or there may be
- 31:00Speaker 3: more now, but it's like Chapman and Fisher and each
- 31:04Speaker 3: you know.
- 31:05Speaker 2: Every Dolly grip has the Dolly Makers.
- 31:07Speaker 1: Yeah, Chapman dollies are Fisher dollies kind of like kind
- 31:11Speaker 1: of holding.
- 31:12Speaker 2: Jamison or bush mills, you know, Foodweiser cores neither. And
- 31:18Speaker 2: then Garrett Brown, as if the steady cam wasn't enough
- 31:21Speaker 2: as far as revolutionizing filming goes, he later on invented
- 31:25Speaker 2: something called the skycam, Yeah, which like if you watch
- 31:29Speaker 2: any kind of sporting event now especially it's especially useful
- 31:33Speaker 2: for football. In football, where like it's there's just cables
- 31:38Speaker 2: above the field and there's cameras hanging down that are
- 31:42Speaker 2: just like doing overhead shots following the action.
- 31:44Speaker 1: Like it's nothing, it's pretty neat.
- 31:46Speaker 2: Garrett Brown invented that too.
- 31:48Speaker 3: I got one more little thing for you. There are
- 31:50Speaker 3: two positions not high mode low mode positions are like
- 31:55Speaker 3: how you're operating the camera. But if you are pointing
- 31:59Speaker 3: for it as an operator and your camera is pointing forward,
- 32:02Speaker 3: you're just walking.
- 32:04Speaker 1: It's called missionary no.
- 32:06Speaker 3: And then if you are if the operator is forward
- 32:10Speaker 3: and the camera is backward, they call that don Juan.
- 32:14Speaker 3: So leave it to film set goons to think of
- 32:18Speaker 3: sexual names for sex it up camera positions.
- 32:21Speaker 2: Don Juan, Yeah, I.
- 32:23Speaker 1: Never heard of that one.
- 32:24Speaker 2: I hadn't either. Well, if you want to know more
- 32:26Speaker 2: about steady cams, including a really really fine grain involved
- 32:31Speaker 2: look at the physics of how the steady cam arm works,
- 32:36Speaker 2: you should go type steadycam into the search part HowStuffWorks
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